Nakamichi Dragon vs Sonos & Era 300 & Sub vs Samsung Q990C vs Sony HTA9 w/ SW5
In this video I compare the Nakamichi Dragon, Sonos + Era 300 + Sonos Sub (G3), Samsung Q990C, and Sony HTA9 w/ SW5. I review feature high and lowlights and compare sound performance.
Correction: 00:34 Sonos Bundle Price is $2256 (not $1400) wishful thinking I guess.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:53 - Nakamichi Dragon - The Good
03:39 - Nakamichi Dragon - The Bad
05:27 - Samsung Q990C - The Good
07:25 - Samsung Q990C - The Bad
07:59 - Sonos System - The Good
09:17 - Sonos System - The Bad
10:19 - HT-A9 w/SW5 - The Good
10:50 - HT-A9 w/SW5 - The Bad
11:39 - Sound Comparison - Introduction
12:44 - Sound Comparison - HTA9 w/SW5 - The Good
16:09 - Sound Comparison - Q990C
19:12 - Sound Comparison - Arc + Era 300s + Sub
22:23 - Blade Runner 2049 - Run Through
24:37 - Music Sound Quality
26:24 - Buying Advice
27:55 - Illegal Sonos Setup - Dragon Slayer?
28:27 - THANKS FOR WATCHING
29:01 - Specs
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No doubt, you are the most thorough soundbar reviewer. Great humor along side Spot on audio touch points. Keep the good work!
Appreciate it!
Totally agree.
q990c best value for money, been happy with it for 4 months now. Zero disconnects with rears, complete surround from back and top
I've been leaning towards the 990C as well. Great that you've had no disconnect issues. That is one thing that I've read about that does concern me.
@@katjunket7305I have this soundbar system. It is awesome…buy it This guy is nit picking. I have no idea what this guy is saying.The sub can shake your house on half volume The surround sound is epic
No Dolby Vision and it doesn't hit hard enough
@@888YouCantHandle you can pass through DV no problem
@888YouCantHandle it's a flipping soundbar you 🍺
Props for doing an updated review on the A9. Many reviewers need to do it as well, because a lot of the issues that plagued the system at launch have been corrected (mostly) with firmware updates.👍
I have a Nakamichi Dragon and I have to say that it’s a beast of a system. I have a dedicated home theater room and it’s scary how close the Nakamichi Dragon gets to my main system.
He said it … not me
How much was your main system is the bigger question. The Dragon getting close to a $7000+ system is more of an accomplishment than getting close to a, say, $5000 system.
How would you compare it to sonos soundbar? If you have one
@@sobeautifulsrilankagood question
I think you're spot-on on the assessment of the 990C. I have the B and got it at the end of the model run for $1000 Canadian. Great value. Good enough sound for my modest home theater. No-fuss setup. I haven't had any problems with the rears disconnecting though. I agree with you... bass is enough. A very happy camper indeed. 😊
This video made me subscribe. Great work🎉
I apreciate a lot your reviews man, thank you !
Thank you for posting this helpful video. I really enjoy your videos. I went the Sonos route primarily because of your videos. I am very happy with my decision. I went with the dual subwoofer configuration, a Sonos arc, and two error 300s.
Thanks, it’s a good setup
I feel like I want to hug you man! Great content, keep it up (:
I do get pretty loose with the hugs - especially after a few too many G&Ts
Superduperawesome round-up. Thank you, good Sir.
Again a great video and love all your jokes that you throw in through out the video.
Excellent comparative. But for more or less than 1000€, the Q 990c is my choice. I personally think that over a 2000 budget, you can already buy a “true” home cinema system with a good receiver and quality speakers. As a solution before I can buy the system of my dream, samsung has done an awsome job.
Early April Fools (00:34) Sonos Bundle Price is $2256 (not $1400) wishful thinking I guess.
You know I wish you could review the (Devialet Dione) made by Devialet. Its $1999 USD. I wonder how well it would compare to these sound bars. I wonder if it could beat any sound system you have. Please consider it a review!! it would be AWESOME!
Great job I’m waiting for the dragon but if I had a choice I would’ve got the Sony. Unfortunately Sony doesn’t offer sub out maybe in the future when they do I would go with Sony.😎👍
3rd from top open you sexy beast.
@@HPMIKE55 you buy the sub separately as part of the H9 range. You have a choice of two subs but every review I've seen say the larger sub is the only one to consider however, looking at the rear control box, I don't know how its connected.
@@MaZEEZaM ok thank you
Awesome review, well done
Excellent detailed review as always
I appreciate it!
Your soundbar videos have been excellent - led me to the HTA9. Came from a 11.2 setup. Wanted a ht in a box without a central sound bar. Very happy with it for movies / tv. I use a dedicated 2channel rig for music. It doesn’t go that deep, but i was surprised it could play the bass drop at start of edge of tomorrow. Doesn’t rattle the house like my dual Svs did but … Not having 11 channels of speaker wire running around the open concept living room, makes wife happy. I can’t get over how good the surround / Atmos sounds for four small speakers. Thanks!
Ok ok… you really got me with this one, awesome job man, new subscriber also!😊
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Very good. Thank you for this Review.
Congrats Bro for hitting 24k Subscribers! The best early Christmas gift for you. Keep it up. 🎉👏🏼😃
I feel fortunate - thanks!
@@neverenoughtech You done well in explaining the product you reviewed.
Bought the Dragon to replace the Sony A9. The Dragon totally crushed it. I thought the 2 systems would be closer in performance than they were, but nope. The Dragon is the best system I’ve ever heard. But it is pricy!
But obviously you can afford it 😉
I’m still charmed by the A9 but it is certainly a lightweight sound in this comparison
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I agree with the comment you showed about HT A9 having X factor .. It is the most unassuming surround speaker setup .. I don't have a dedicated media room and my A9 seamlessly blends in my living room .. I thoroughly enjoy it and won't trade it for anything
Outstanding comparisons! instructive and very entertaining Completely agreed when it comes to the Sonos. I have the two subs and Era's 300 rear with the arc being the weakest link! Until an updated newer version comes out, the dragon will be the better option. Since I am already invested, it makes sense to wait a little for the hopefully new ARC. Great content.
I’m really hoping Sonos is feeling more era300 than 100 with this new hypothetical bar … not knocking the 100s - they’re delightful
Technically Sonos could add 2 Era 300 for the front left and right surround with software updates, the problem is how many people will buy it? As the cost will go over 4200 Dollars?? Probably only few people not so many to justify an extra software investment. But I do like the idea of 2Era 300 front and I will probably buy the extra 2 more pairs next year and get with little settings volume down for Era as I like exploring the edge top surround sound
Andrew Robinson sold me the HT-A9 2 years ago with the SW5 sub. Super happy. Already had a A80J with the whole screen being a speaker for the center channel. Super happy, it's a smallish room in the basement if it fills the room perfectly. The soundstage, the 360 feature is superb. Not the most precise audio setup, but for the price I'm really happy. I wanted a system the would fill all the space around me (up down, front rear, left right). My kids are looking behind sometimes as the feel being within the action. Star wars / space stuff is awesome on this.
Yeah not perfect but definitely special and can put on a good show
Great Video ! I`ve been waiting for this :)
I don't have the other 3, but I got the Q990C with less than $900 (in Vietnam), and the bass for my small room is scary, I only use it at +3, and the whole system at +10 level only. It's enough for my need. Really hope that I can have more money to experience the best Sonos and Sony systems in the future. For the Nakamichi Dragon, it's too much for what I will ever need :D
I am owning a Q990B and wants to change. and Dragon is very much on the list. one thought is room calibration can be a headache. my main system is separates. But I will try the Dragon. with the double price to upgrade to a Q990C. Thank you a very good review.
Another great video 🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️
Thanks Daniel:) I think this is one of the best reviews I’ve seen for 2023 and I’ve seen them all… Great job bro! And I really think that Sony has the advantage here for the future. I believe Sony is going to come out with a game changer with their spatial mapping tech! This tech can very well put soundbars out of business! Think about it! 🤔 💭
Great video. Never seen your channel before. Instantly subscribed. Cheers!
Appreciate it!
Had the 990c 5 months very happy with it paid £950.00 off Amazon UK Was tempted by the Sonos but the Era 300 too big (for domestic bliss) and your head to head with the Sonos showed the 990c wasn't a poor relation to the Sonos and was half the price which will pay for a lot of atmos streaming services ... Oh and no drop outs to the rear to report so I'm a happy with my purchase
It’s a compelling system glad you like it! - I hope they offer something exciting for next year as the C year improvements were so minor - refreshed bar and surrounds at least
Awesome review! Thanks for the video.
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I've had the HT A9 for 6 months now and I love it. I had some dropping initially, but now I exclusively use my PS5 as my streaming device and haven't had a single drop since (I'm wondering if it's due to my PS5's Ethernet connection?). I find when I stream through my TV small, rare drops happen.
We recently moved into a larger loft, but surprisingly, wanted to downsize our home theater system. The Arc on its own is definitely limited, but we have been quite happy with two subs and the era 100’s. The 100’s just disappear behind our sectional, which wouldn’t have happened with the 300’s.
Cheers for the review. Have a good Christmas / New Year. Hopefully CES 2024 brings us all something new and exciting.
I do hope they deliver some interesting gizmos to discuss - everybody wins
@@neverenoughtech Sennheiser rear speakers is top of my list. Won't hold my breath though 😅
@@neverenoughtech New LG bars have just been announced, first bit of news.
I have RP8000s in the front and PR5000s for the sides and back. Big surrounds and/or rear surrounds make a huge difference.
The Dragon looks incredible!!! Damn
No disconnect issues here on the Q990C. I had a Polk 5.1 system for many years and swapped it to this. I will say, this review is spot on. The sub sounds good and won't disappoint normal people. It's very well integrated into the system and provides good, clean bass. I will say for the surrounds, the further you can get them back, the better your experience will be. My couch is about 18in fron the back wall. Oddly, with my 5.1 system, the surrounds were more diffused and less localized in my setup. If I sit in front of my couch, the Q990C surrounds sounds very good from a spatial audio perspective. I hate room constraints. The front sound is a bit compressed, which can be overcome with volume, but the wife approval factor goes down as volume has to go up to compensate. Ill keep this for a while, until bars get better
I’ll just emphasize/agree that getting rears some distance behind you - at the very least - helps with the spatial effects … maybe Andrew Robinson can do a lunch and learn on how to get wives interested in home theater
I purchased a used Samsung 930B (200$) and also purchased a used Klipsch 350W subwoofer( 30$) Modified the original Samsung subwoofer so I can connect the extra Klipsch subwoofer with the High Channel Imput and this thing is a monster Now. Insane performance for the price.
Thank you for an excellent comparison. I would like you to compare the Dragon with the Shockwave.
I have a q990c and it works perfect. I have had no rear disconnect issue. This sound bar truly sounds amazing for the price. And the bass is plentiful! Also, I have samsung TV and the bar paired with the Q-symphony works well. It complements the sounds. It is not needed but sure does add to the dome effect.
Fair assessment - my Q gripe is it introduces lower quality speakers though it does augment the spatial nature of the sound
@@neverenoughtech your certainly right. It does.
Always waiting for your great comparison ❤ I'm still indecise between Sony or Samsung, but the HTA9 sound bubble really intrigue me...
I’d get Sony and return if it doesn’t fulfill your expectations
@@neverenoughtech probably the best decision thanks
I have owned Samsung q990c (not anymore), Sony ht a9 + sw5 and Sennheiser Ambeo max + Dali c8 d. Samsung q990c: best bang for the buck ration since you can find it for as low as $900. The feel is not very premium, the sub is somewhat light and will distort at higher leves. Rear speakers are not loud enough to deliver any significant 3D effect. The good point is that is gets really loud, it just sounds a bit compressed in comparison to some more expensive options out there. One strange thing, the system never took me through room calibration steps... It is a good system if you are on a budget, it will not dissapoint. Sony ht a9: very premium build, sw5 feels heavy and reassuring. It should, considering the price. Bass performance is awesome imho. The level of 3D reprojection and soundstage is very good. It is really orientated towards theatrical experience, there is no real sound eq you can play with, it is voiced for movies and 3D bubble in which you are immersed instantly. It is so much fun. If you approach it fro audiophile perspective, however, you might be dissapointed as it sounds just a bit harsh, not as full. This does not mean that it is bad for music, not at all, there are just better options out there. I have never missed a centre, phantom center is awesome. If you have a suitable Sony TV, you can connect the black box to ''s centre'' to use TV speakers for that. And no, even though this is a standard 3.5mm jack, you can not connect any other speaker to it to serve as a centre, no sound will cone through. Believe me, I have tryed. One more thing about ht a9 - SW5 is the only sub to get and it should not be optional. There is a night and day difference w/wo a sub. Internal mini subs can not give you a cinematic rumble which is much needed for a good theatrical experience. Sennheiser Ambeo max: This one is like a refined piece of tehc, that always puts a smile on my face. There is nothing cheap on this machine. It is a work of art. It is heavy, sturdy and reassuring. The Sennheiser's sound optimization and room calibration is really on another level. You calibrate the bar with a special calibration tool that cones in the box and it is no joke. They seem to take this part very seriously. The 3D reprojection is very good due to exellent Sennheiser's software magic. But only up to 180 degrees. Do not expect 360 degree sound like with Sony ht a9 as there are no (not even optional) rear speakers. No amount of reflections can adequately substitute for a physical rear sound source. This soundbar is much more audiophile orientated, there are 2 apps by which you can control the sound profile. The audio quality is excepional for music. I would say the system is on par or better that what I get with any of my higher end bookshelf speakers. There is a wired connection for a subwoofer which means you can hook up ANY active sub to it. In this way you can pair it with any good $500+ sub you might already have at home to even outperform the Dragon in sub section. Again, as with Sony, subwoofer is a must. Internal mini subs will not cut is...not even close.
Thanks for your insightful comparison! One question about the q990c rear speakers: you said that they aren't loud enough to produce surround effects, can't that be addressed by increasing their individual volumes (relative to the front channels) via the SmartThings app?
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Glad you waited!
Awesome comparison video. What do you think the best LFE level for the Dragon is?
I found the default to be fine 0 db … still taking time to learn what I really like best tho
I've had the Samsung Q950a and the the Sonos Arc / 2 subs / one SL's and was unhappy with both..go figure...so now i will try the Bose flagships....if that does not work then maybe the JBL or the Nakamichi Dragon.....wish me luck...lol...MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL...cheers from Vulcan Canada
I've been watching your videos since 5 months and I became a fan of your work and humour.coming to my question as I'm planning to buy Q990c is it worth to invest or should I get a standalone av receiver+speaker setup.
If you don’t mind all the complexity of an av receiver and the wires and space taking of all the components - go for it. SBs are around to make your life a bit simpler … the Cs sound would probably surprise you if you haven’t listened to SBs in a while
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Great video! Thorough as always! Question about the HT-A9. In the Sony Audio Settings>Sound Effect, did you select 1) Sound Mode On, 2) Dolby Speaker Virtualizer, or 3) DTS Neural:X? Would appreciate it, thank you.
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@@neverenoughtech Thank you. I just swapped my HT-A7000 + SA-RS5 setup for the HT-A9 (both using the SA-SW5) so I wanted to make sure I set things up correctly. Dialogue took a minor hit, but everything else was amplified. I immediately noticed the difference when watching Infinity War during the intro scene where Thanos places the Space Stone on the Infinity Gauntlet. The shockwave that follows sounded great with the HT-A9. Significantly less so with the HT-A7000 setup that I’ve used to watch that film with over a dozen times.
Wow, ANOTHER great video!!!! No doubt this guy keeps giving other reviewer a hard time to keep up. I got the Q990C with the 77” S90C TV a month ago and I’m very happy. No drop-outs on the rears so far. I’ve only done streaming so, audio has been good. I hope audio gets to a whole different level when I play my physical media. Still need to calibrate the TV and find the best settings for the Q990C. Any suggestions on settings? Also, I’ve seen people saying that Q Symphony takes away from the soundbar? How so? Merry Christmas, everyone!
With the C I tend to leverage SFSP and keep sound on adaptive - and adjust levels to taste based on content … with Q my gripe is throwing in inferior speakers … I think it flocks the sound a bit though I will concede it can boost the sounds spatial impact
@@neverenoughtech right now I have it on Adaptive Sound and SpaceFit Sound. All channels at 6, except sub which is at 5. I’ve been thinking about lowering the Front Surrounds to 5 since they are so close to me. I’m sorry, I don’t get what you mean by SFSP (I’m still a rookie at this). Still haven’t played much with Active Voice Amplifier and Voice Enhancement. Not sure about Bass Enhancement either.
@@revotuberacerI’ll advise that you do not turn on the voice enhancement. It cheapens the whole experience just to make voices sound louder. You can turn on active voice amplifier, that’s a better setting. Bass enhancement is also good if you want more bass, mine is turned on
I can still remember wanting a Nakamichi 1000 cassette deck! I went Sonos Arc, Era300s, Sub over the last week .. fully expecting a new Arc++ later this year. If I wanted a one off/stay as is solution for TV only surround the Dragon could have been it. I'm putting my investment into an expectation that Sonos is going to do something very impressive moving forward. It would really only take a software upgrade to offer a 4x Era 300, 2x Sub, 1x Arc configuration ... rebalancing the Arc more towards conversation delivery. I still need to install the new gear and do something with my old Sonos surround system. Speaking of hacks - if I listen to music video, concerts, etc I play them through my OPPO and also push the audio via Toslink to a pair of Devialet Phantom Golds. Everything stays in sync nicely and the surround system just becomes fill. It'll be interesting to see what the new Sonos setup can do with Atmos without any Phantom support.
Great review. I'm struggling between Q990C and Marantz Cinema 70s + Q Acoustics 3010i + QB12 sub. Any thoughts on that dilemma? Thx
I can only speculate … I’m quite confident the latter sounds better -- (assume you’re at least going surround sound with it) -- if you’re just going stereo I’d say you are leaving to much on the table with the C … if you’re going all out with the AVR - there are trade offs gotta think what am I gonna really want to probably listen too over and over again
I'm a little late on the video but it was very informative. A great job
Glad to hear, thanks!
Hta 9 paired with the a95L as a center channel and sw5 is love.
I would point out in the Sony A9 product image @10:26 they hide the biggest Con and that's the requirement for a separate power socket for each of the five speakers (including the necessary sub) plus another socket for the control box, a total of 6 power points. In the photo, the power cable for the closest rear speaker is tucked over then under the top of the side table but never goes any further, the speaker in the photo, isn't truly plugged in.
I know the Ambeo Max Didn’t qualify due to lack of rears but it would have been interesting to see how it compares, you bought it as well, where do you keep all these systems lol
Happy Q990C user here, added one of those sub-100$ class D amps for stereo music though. Thank you for another great video. Enjoying your sense of humour and looks ❤
Can you elaborate on your adding an amp move … I assume you are directing your music source through an amp before it reaches the Q990C? Am I getting that right? Thanks!
You did what? How?
What is the point of adding a desktop amp to the q990c when it is already powered? Makes absolutely zero sense and I call BS.
Hands down favorite reviewer wish you did tvs too
I appreciate it … adding TVs with no help sounds like a mental breakdown - but maybe I can get help at some point. I like TVs got like 9 of them
This guy is the best for soundbars , but Quantum TV is the best for tv's
I AGREE.. TV too my dear friend. With your humor would be a HIT.. but I agree it ain’t easy, hence pushing you towards mental breakdown is not a call you can make at this time. But something for us (your viewers) to look forward to. All in good time.
Thanks for the info! Any ball park release dates for the new Sonos soundbar? I'm itching to make a purchase and I think the Sonos is a little more aesthetically pleasing!
I’m hoping for a summer/fall announcement. The Eras were announced in the spring last year so hopefully there is a chance for this spring … though it seemed there was a lot more info about the eras than the new SB and other potential hardware this round
Thanks for ur continuous review, may I ask which 3 sound system come with best surround and bass?
Nakamichi and Sonos will give you the best surround bass combo - if you get two Sonos subs and the 300s
@@neverenoughtech but you mentioned in the video that you wouldn't buy a Sonos LOL. In Hong Kong, sadly nakamichi doesn't sell the dragon. Liked you and few others say, its the best Soundbar in the market at the moment...
@@neverenoughtech do you mean i should buy 2 x 300s, and TWO subs?
I feel very sane with purchase. Not disappointed with my Q990C.
Curious - what are your complaints?
@@neverenoughtech typo, NOT….
Excellent review as always, great job.
Appreciated!
I recently pulled the trigger on the Sonos (helped by your excellent videos) but concluded the same - the ERA 300’s dominate, also layout and room size are key to real world performance. Atmos effects only appeared (marginally) at high volumes which meant the space got overwhelmed and is unsustainable with neighbours + smaller UK spaces). Yes, I could turn it down and it still sounds excellent. I love bass but had to turn it down to -4. In my awkward space, a great soundbar experience is good result in its own right, any Atmos effects are a bonus. With that in mind at £899 the Q990C is nearly a third of the price and should be plenty for your average consumer.
I just replaced a Q990B with a Nakamichi Dragon. The Samsung is a solid choice at a reasonable price but, if you can afford an unreasonable price, the Dragon is a beast that plays on a whole different level. The highs are exceptional and you can feel the low frequencies in your bones. I haven't heard the Sonos Arc but I have a set of Era 300s in my bedroom for music and I love them.
It is a tier above the 990x for sure - if that is a lingering question
Well put my friend. The Dragon is king.
Ive used Q-symph and always have it on, unless its for music. It adds height in atmos and some more punch to the treble in action scenes.
I don’t like throwing in inferior speakers but I agree it can augment spatial audio
@@neverenoughtech Exactly why i dont use it for music 💪
Thank you for a solid and entertaining review, I wish you had also included active speakers as an option. I have bought Samsung's flagship TV so I was naturally interested in the everywhere praised q990c but during the test listening I happened to hear a couple of active speakers namely the Audio pro a48 and they were completely superior in my opinion, what have I missed? Something inside me says I want the q990c for my Samsung TV, but I can't ignore how good the active speakers sounded.
Ironically I spend most my time listening to bookshelf speakers (the sixes and SVS prime wireless pro with micro sub) as they sit at my desk and where I work out. Big fan. But as I alluded to … I want to review systems with rears as I tend to focus pretty heavily on performance related to movies with impressive 3D audio. Exactly one dude runs this channel (you may recognize him) so I have limited bandwidth … oh and I have a real job so my family doesn’t starve. Maybe at some point I can get help and expand my commentary … appreciate the comment
@@neverenoughtech For movies, maybe the 990c gives a different experience, but unfortunately I can't place rear speakers behind my sofa, which you apparently have to do to get the full effect. Maybe I'll wait and see what comes next year, but then it's probably twice as expensive, Samsung usually cuts prices in half just in time for BF and the days between Christmas and New Year, I don't know if I think these systems are worth like $2000.
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Watching from the sidelines since I already own an AVR + surround sound setup. Love the aesthetics and wireless convenience of a soundbar setup, hate the slow pace towards a wireless AVR-less mix-and-match 7.x.x configuration.
Sonos is the company that can popularize it … I also hope Sony follows up with the A9
990C super great, no issues, after 2 months i put the sub under my couch= ASTONISHING, can't go back. couch is against the wall, i just put the rear speakers to the side and it is perfect. atmos is not detailed but overall it is super great.
The subwoofer under your couch? That is actually a cool idea but, how the heck did you manage to get the sub down there? Is the couch mounted on top of something?
@@revotuberacermy issue was not enough presence in the mid bass or the lower mid. I don't no the exact term. The "woof" sounds that are not rumbling. I pushed the sub to +4 and I lower all the front channels(except the Atmos ones) to -3 in the smarthings app, so I could push the global volume to 18 and have the presence of the "woof" without the front stage shouting at me. It was really good but I wanted to feel more detailed in the low frequency. The sub is 8inch and cannot do miracles so I decided to try the sub crouch method. While crouching to listen to the best spot for my sub that is how i just realized there is enough space under my couch. So I gave it a try. Shut down the bar, Put the sub under and plugged it. Magnificent result. I can feel the slightest low vibration to the big rumble that shakes the couch and the wall. The "thumbs" are running through my body. I am sure by audiophiles standards I must be making some heresy since the sub is not designed for that and I might missing some other effect that I don't know about. (There are sub designed for that spot). But it is just night and day. True IMAX theater experience.
@@revotuberacergood question bruv, my couch has a 5 inches leg and the sub won’t fit lol
Truly only matters if you like it however, when you do that you really muffle the tone of the sub and you lose a ton of definition.
i yeah i knew it beforehand and i was planning to put it back next to the main unit but i can't just get enough of the cuch rumbling@@TheLeadG
After watching all of this videos on yutube about sound systems Im more than happy I went for the new bose ultra soundbar whit the AI system more than excellent for movies and music for me is just the best deal for the money and simple to use.
I really want to embrace Bose but it’s gotta update its rears
Welp. I think my Sonos Arc + Sub has to go back, and you have convinced me Daniel. The Q990C can be had for $827.99 (with tax) right now with discounts in US. I feel like that's just unbeatable. I can't imagine the Sonos Ultimate bundle being $1400 better.
I got the arc and a Pairs of 100 of 2nd market. 1 sub from best buy other from sonos and I can't return its to late. But knew I should have not rushed researched more and went with 990c only reason didn't get 990c it was out of stock on samsung wich would have gotten it for about 700 paired with my oled s90. Didn't wanna wait plus heard the sonos in vest buy they didn't have the 990c now I'm upset
@@prtbone78 it’s been really tough for me. I gave my dad the Q990C. The Sonos price is steep, but I’ve found the sound to be better imo after testing them both a lot,
Hi, if someone can answer. I have a Samsung q700c which was an unplanned purchase a couple of months back while getting a new TV. I am no audiophile but i appreciate good stuff. I love the sound of the q700c so was wondering if anyone has experienced both and how much better q990c is and is it worth upgrading. Thanks.
I’m a novice when it comes to sound. I have the ARC, with sub gen 2 and 2 era 300s for rears. Sounds great to me 🤷🏽♂️
They all sound great within the segment. This video is about nitpicking amongst the greatest.
Have you looked into the Milan all wireless systems?! They now have a soundbar as well, would be cool to see something like that compared to a soundbar.
Been on my radar but haven’t followed up. Good reminder
What bass can be more deeper than the bose bass module 700 🤔
Having bought the 990c i agree in that the lack of 3D sound disappoints compared to the 5.1 surround system that I use to have. Generally it's fine for most situations, but the emphasis on booming to give a film the sense of action is off-putting.
which one is the loudest and more clear between the HT-a9 and the Q990C? thank you for your amazin and honest reviews.
990C goes way louder than the HTA9
@@markwinston3119 thank you, im waiting for his review of the 990d
Hi bro my Samsung soundbar Q990C is not working just 1 orange Light is on. I m going to samsung service centers butt he is noy resolving this problem i m just 2 months ago buy the Samsung Q990C soundbar. Pls help me Thanks
I hope Sonos understands how much of an improvement the new ARC needs to be. At the projected price it needs to be good and it needs to get people like me who own an Arc to feel that this new ARC is a worthy upgrade. Unfortunately, there are lots of ways they could screw this up.
I hope they infuse era 300 energy … it’s reasonable to suspect that
I absolutely can't stand the fact that trueplay does not support Android devices
I don’t even like sound bars nor home theater but I’m hear watching due to the dragon. As a 2 channel purist and headfier the dragon is just calling my name. Thanks for the thorough comp.
Good review, i think its important to touch upon low to medium level sound viewing which is vital for 90% of us! I came from a dedicated seperate setup and purchased the HTA9. I wanted to love this but i was disappointed and returned. It sounded great at high volume but very poor at low to medium volumes. Also it really needed a dedicated centre even if you have a SOny compatible tv.
Disagree with the Sony TV as a center channel. I have this system w/ Sony A9K and it sounds great (using the TV as a center channel).
Hi! i think its just personal opinion and maybe due to having a dedicted setup beforehand. I despereatly needed more space so sold it all and went for the Sony and really wanted to love it as even purchased the 4 stands. I Never felt comfortable with my A9J as centre as I didnt feet it had the grunt to match main speakers. I could of lived with it mind, but my main gripe was the sound at low to medium volume levels which would be 70% of the time. My last system still sounded amazing at these volumes. @@SynjynB
I totally dig your reviews, but I really would recommend using music more as content to test systems. Movies have music, so it makes sense. Plus, you can isolate the faults of each soundbar with music. When you have an action scene, it's way too layered to make out shortcomings
Well taken!
0:44 This is why I enjoy watching you. It seems once someone hits 100k, they change, and I stop watching. I pay for KZhead Premium, and the sponsor spots get really old real quick.
I’m pretty bad at being the kind of tuber well behaved enough to get sponsorships
@@neverenoughtech lol
Great Video as always! I bought the Sonos Arc and two era 300s last month before the leak announcement. It’s a really great system (I already had a Sub gen 3) but I completely understand your sentiment in regards to the overpowering Era 300s. It’s okay while watching movies but listening to music is a little tricky because I have to turn the eras down for a couple of tracks to hear the front stage. I’m still really happy with it but I will buy the next soundbar and move the arc into the bedroom 🫡
Sounds like advice I would give. Happy to hear my observations are shared (at least with a few)
The Dragon is the first sound bar I actually researched to replace my traditional HT. Sadly the moment I read it only came with a 1 year warranty made it a no go from the get go. It's one fo the main reasons why I shy away from sound bars in general because of their proprietary nature. Seems I was proven right based on your experiences with the build quality. The other offerings don't offer much better in terms of warranty coverage vs the price so I guess I'm sticking with what I have for the forseeable future . Excellent content as usual.
What if sennheiser came out with a new bar and surrounds offerings … could you resist?
Hell, if sennheiser just released a good pair of surrounds, I’d take that with an SVS sub over the dragon any day. Just my opinion.
@@neverenoughtech Not familiar with any of their audio products other then headphones.
I have a Yamaha ysp 5600 which I love. But im thinking about upgrading. How much better are these soundbars compared to the Yamaha?
Quite a bit better - I have an updated video you might be interested in. Nakamichi Dragon vs Sonos & Era 300 & Sub vs Samsung Q990C vs Sony HTA9 w/ SW5 kzhead.info/sun/ipGNibh7mGmagac/bejne.html
Lelu Dallas Multipass 😂😂😂 Great video
I need some advice… should I go wireless WIFI or HDMI eArc when connecting my Q990C soundbar to my Neo QLED Tv?
Wi-Fi at times stumbles - and disables the inputs. I’ll always go wired
Have you tried the Beosound Theatre? Similar price bracket to the Dragon. Ok it’s more expensive, but the Dragon is way more expensive than the others you’ve listed here.
I value 3D spatial sound the most. Should I get the Sonos Eras and wait for the arc upgrade or should I go for A9? I am afraid the A9 may be obsolete soon. Great review all around.
Don't rush take your time! I had the Nakamichi shockwafe SSE ARC 1000 watts for 5 years and I was 100% happy and felt no need to upgrade. I was so happy with the system I had one in my master bedroom and basement. I only felt the need to upgrade when the Nakamichi Dragon was announced.
I get where you’re coming from. I do hope Sony invests more in the A9 initiative. One thing the A9 has going for it is that it’s mature. I sense it’s worth waiting on Sonos if you want to go that direction too many unknowns … if you are set on Sonos the era 300s would be the safest purchase because whatever exciting they are doing next year will almost certainly involve them - and they can be used without a bar in the meantime
Does the Dragon has an audio feature in the sound settings "auto" which lets the base decide which best sound to output based on content playing ?
No - all that is manually set. If there are smarts it would be in the Dolby and dts upmixes
HT A9's have this feature & its great to have a SMART feature and let the unit decide the best sound.. rather than toggling with different modes.. do u think sonny would release a HT A10 in CES 2024.. been almost 2 years since the last release .. I'm using the Sony st 5000 with Apple TV 4K.. and looking to upgrade.. your take !@@neverenoughtech
What sound mode do you use on the HT a9 ( Standard and atmos)
This is not a system that shines in a standard mode - I keep AE on and have keep the sound on Auto
Could you please tell the rears should be on the side wall facing you or on the back wall facing towards tv??my couch is against the wall.
Ideal is generous distance behind and off to the side with the main channel oriented towards you. If not possible off to the side is probably second best
What is usually forgotten in tests is which one sounds the best in asymmetrical room and open spaces.. Since in perfect space the best performers can become the worst performers in asymmetrical rooms..
I think the A9 absorbs this factor the best … would have been good to make that more explicit
My take-away would be if you have the jack to let go, and the right space for a larger system, The Dragon is by far overall the currently available most impressive, albeit quite big, HTB system. Yet it can be improved. The absence of a room automated EQ would be an expected feature which may in itself make any other changes nearly moot. It could address the issue of the rears not delivering as much lower frequencies, which should put it least equal to the effect that, more or less, made the Sonos speakers shine in that regard (hopefully the soundstage can simply be widened, if desired, with more physical separation of the front L & R speakers while not hampering the height effects negatively). With the large amount of electronics in The Dragon, an automated EQ system seems almost de rigueur - thus a curious oversight in order to optimally leverage the power of the amount of processing and individual amplification present. It makes a case for the question is Nakamichi considering either adding it (if possible) to the current version of The Dragon or incorporating it in a future version? For me, that's the (sixty) four-thousand question.
I have 14x14 medium size loft and only watch movies, which is best for atoms experience apart from dragon? Also does traditional home theatre setup like klipch 5.1 beat any soundbar home theatre setup?
A9 - the 5.1 would not be as good at 3D audio
I have the 990b. Can’t sell it fast enough. I’ll never buy another “ flagship” for one year soundbar from Samsung. I am now deciding between the dragon or a dedicated system I thought I’d never do again. I have a quote coming for a dedicated system so we will see .
I got the Q930c. It’s a less powerful version of the 990c but also about $400 cheaper. It sounds amazing to me and I have no rear channel dropouts. I can only imagine the 990c
I’m a floozy for the priciest products … I’ve heard a lot of good things about the 30c
I bought the Nakamichi shockwafe SSE Earc in May to upgrade my Nakamichi shockwafe SSE ARC in my master bedroom. I felt once I got it, it was so good i don't think I would of ordered the Dragon if I knew it was so good. However after getting the dragon in my basement to replace my other Nakamichi shockwafe SSE ARC 1000 watts. It was on another level to the Nakamichi shockwafe SSE Earc 1300!watts.
There is no comparison. Ethernet the bars on the two systems (just to start the comparison)