Is Civilization on the Brink of Collapse?
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At its height, the Roman Empire was home to about 30 % of the world’s population, and in many ways the pinnacle of human advancement. Rome became the first city in history to reach one million inhabitants and was a center of technological, legal, and economic progress. An empire impossible to topple, stable and rich and powerful.
Until it wasn’t anymore. First slowly then suddenly, the most powerful civilization on earth collapsed. If this is how it has been over the ages, what about us today? Will we lose our industrial technology, and with that our greatest achievements, from one dollar pizza to smartphones or laser eye surgery? Will all this go away too?
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" يارب أتوسل إليك بحق إسمك الأعضم ترزق صاحب اليد التي ستدعــمنـــي با متابعة ورزق لاينتهي وتوفيق لانهاية 💜🕊️.
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if the question is "is civilization about to collapse?" then an answer of "don't worry, humanity will probably survive to rebuild over the following centuries" is maybe not the most reassuring answer.
Just being realistic
you know things are looking bad when even Kurzgesagt is giving up on humanity
Look ok the kursgesat team are very broke after the last two videos that need vacation clickbait moeny
another video that doesn't answer the question that it poses...
Then what exactly do you want? There's two paths you can take here. 1. Be pessimistic & constantly comment on Reddit or KZhead about how fucked we are 2. Be optimistic about the future & try to improve upon yourself & your own relationships with those around you each day Like honestly, what are you expecting? NOBODY & I mean NOBODY has any definitive idea on what the future holds. But come on now, saying NOT to be optimistic is actively sabotaging yourself & everyone around you. It's a bad mindset to have & a hard one to escape.
"We just need to actually do it." If history has proven anything it's that societies never prepare for problems until they're already collapsing from them. EDIT: Since this got so much of a response I'll add to this - society goes through cycles. The people that solve the problems are the ones that had to live with the collapse and have no choice. Sadly we're seeing the death of a golden age as the system we're in can no longer adapt to the problems we face. I like Kurzgesagt's optimism, but systems either work or they don't. Every system works until it breaks because it cannot change and ours is no different. I hope I'm wrong but if we match the pattern of history I will not be.
... Despite countless warnings. In fact, those who warn are often seen as deceptive enemies with ulterior motives.
@@devilskind92 Can you give examples of said people. Im actually really curious lol.
What our society is, greatly depicts movie "don't look up"
Good thing we are preparing for a rapidly incoming collapse in the next fifty years, right? … right???
FAAAAAACTS
“Humanity is like a teenager speeding around blind corners drunk and without a seatbelt” -Kurzgesagt
That was the most factual statement in the whole video.
I read this comment as he said that
Is modern civilization about to collapse? -No one knows for sure but most historians would say no, not yet. Will modern civilization collapse? -Yes. Will we recover? -Yes.
I think this video needs a title change. It doesn't answer if we're on the brink of collapse at all. It simply talks about how civilization would recover if it does collapse.
This collapse is taking so damn long tho... Why isn't like just tomorrow? Why is everyone taking their sweet time. If it breaks now, we can stop worrying about it happening the very next day. Particularly speaking about the so called "wars" we have going on right now.
Yeah this is one of the more vague kurtz vids I’ve watched in a while
I wasn’t expecting to see you here How is your break going?
We just want the world of Pokémon to collapse
Doesn't it kind of speak for itself though
As an electrician I get overwhelmed with work after a simple thunderstorm.. I couldn't imagine how stressed out I would be trying to rebuild society (assuming I live through the collapse)
The good news is you would be able to take on apprentices without needing certs since there would be no government. It’s more important to get electricity back to a bunch of people than it is to make sure everything is up to code. Obviously you’d go back and check later, but if you had good people helping out, it’d be more helpful than anything.
I was just thinking about how hard it would be to be a leader of new civilization and starting up the industrial revolution again, getting back safe water supply, modern amenities etc
Thanks for your hard work. We appreciate you sir!
Depending on how bad it was you might only have like four houses to take care of in your community. 🤷♀️
sorry
The problem isn’t that society might collapse it’s that a large portion of the population looks forward to it
As usual the only comment asking the real questions gets 0 replies
Why wouldn't they though? Almost everywhere they look, there is misery and suffering, and life seems hopeless and meaningless. They just want the pain of existence to stop.
It makes sense though as some of the most popular religions to date hold a global cataclysm/apocalypse to be imminent.
It's only democrats that look forward to societal collapse.
I'm one of them.
For some reason, that bird looking with glee when it finally managed to produce a toast was heart warming.
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Today's fact: Ancient Greeks came up with the idea of cyclops after they found a fossil of a mammoth, and had no idea what it was.
" يارب أتوسل إليك بحق إسمك الأعضم ترزق صاحب اليد التي ستدعــمنـــي با متابعة ورزق لاينتهي وتوفيق لانهاية 💜🕊️.
" يارب أتوسل إليك بحق إسمك الأعضم ترزق صاحب اليد التي ستدعــمنـــي با متابعة ورزق لاينتهي وتوفيق لانهاية 💜🕊️.
cool i didnt know that
Good fact
Still don't know how they managed to think a 2 eyed creature can be a 1 eye standing beast.
I'm not worried about whether civilization can recover, I'm worried about having to recover. I'm personally not that keen on experiencing civilizational collapse, and knowing that those who make it through will rebuild doesn't really change that. The bronze age collapse is a curious bit of history to us, but to the people living through it, it might as well have been the end of the world. In relation to the bronze age collapse, I'm one of the people learning about it via unfathomable technologies 3000 years later, but in relation to whatever happens in our time, collapse or no, I'm that bronze age rando who would much rather have reliable access to food and not have to go to war.
Agreed 👍
There's a reason "May you live in interesting times" is meant as a curse.
If there is a collapse, you won't be around long enough for the recovery. Your sole job will be to attempt to survive and produce offspring just like everyone else. It will be your descendants that go through the recovery.
We should not be pussies
Sound like a puff.
The title of this video is a bit inaccurate. The video talks more about whether civilization would recover than whether we are on the brink of collapse.
2:27 they really tried to sneak among us in this sneaky bastards
lol
Interesting that you guys didn't mention the Bronze Age Collapse, which is often the event that many people point to as the defining societal collapse. However, even the Bronze Age Collapse didn't entirely erase civilization, as major civilizations like Assyria, Egypt, and Babylonia were able to weather the storm and survive into classical times. I think the collapse of the Roman Empire was simplified here, because while the empire in Italy itself fell, the eastern half of the empire survived, all the way until 1453, and Italy, Spain, France, England, and North Africa were taken over by new kingdoms of Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Franks, Anglo-Saxons, and Vandals rather than falling into total societal collapse. In fact, Italy in particular would see a resurgence under king Theodoric the Great. If anything, it was the Byzantines' invasion and reconquest of Italy that actually caused the bigger societal collapse than the fall of Rome itself.
look like some people is confused, civilization and Empire is different, even the Empire collapse the civilization could be continued.
So much of the BAC is still a complete mystery as well. We still don't really know what caused it and why.
I hate to be that guy but pointing to the bronze age collapse as the end of human society is highly eurocentric, there were plenty of other civilizations during that time period that would have carried out if europe went dark, same with the black death or the dark ages
I mean it's an 11 minute video, of course its explanation for the collapse of the Roman Empire is simplified. Unless they wanted to make a documentary series it kinda has to be.
That's why they showed the western empire disappear but the eastern one remain, isn't it
as always I absolutely loved this video, but just personally I feel like it more answered “can civilization recover from a collapse” than “how likely is it for civilization to collapse?” Cuz honestly im worried more about the latter
in the video he said that a collapse is the rule so its inevitable but it wont always affect the citizen that much
@@channelname4331 More accurately, they said that it has always been the rule. Not necessarily that global civilization as we know it will inevitably collapse.
If you are that worried about the future, find a fortune teller. Or a scientist who thinks he is a fortune teller, they seem to be everywhere.
@@SubtleSerpent because a statement like "the earth is getting hotter" is just as much a guess as a fortune teller saying you'll find success 🤣 I have no proof the sun will rise tomorrow, I only have evidence it will. Am I trying to "predict the future", there?
@@SubtleSerpent a lot of those scientists are looking at data and saying what will happen if we continue down the same path. It isn’t fortune telling to tell someone that throwing a ball into the air will lead to it falling down. That’s common sense yeah? But we learned it through observation, the first time someone sees something thrown into the air they don’t know it’ll come back down. But based on the many thousands of times you’ve seen it happen in your life (data) you can pretty safely say that when you do it again, it’ll result in that outcome.
You guys are awesome, placing some good vibes in the end despite the disaster presented so well in the video that could happen anytime. Thanks for the hope!
I'm not worried about the survival of humanity, I'm worried about my civilization crumbling around me
It's harrowing how we've gone from "hey, humanity is doing all kinds of things to help secure our future, its not all bad!" to "hey, not all of us will die, we're like cockroaches!" I appreciate these videos and the message they try and give us but damn I hate that our potential futures look so grim now.
To be fair, this video differs from the Climate Change series, in that it needs to make a lot of worst case assumptions.
"Someone smart" Someone not smart
We're not exactly like cockroaches but we might still have a chance.. might
It is not the future that looks grim, it's us who see it grim.
@@B1omaH If we see the future as grim how is that any different than it looking grim?
“Humanity is like a teenager, speeding around drunk corners, blind without a seatbelt.” What an outstanding way to describe the rapid growth of humankind.
money-spenders are one toxic culture. indigenous people are humanity.
Humanity is more than America and Europe. So relax.
No Humanity is a penal colony for extra dimensional beings.
Yeah, but what a ride!
“Speeding around *blind* corners, *drunk* without a seatbelt” I’m sorry I had to say it but it makes all the difference
Civilization has already collapsed, that should be obvious. The complexity scrambled the eggs and we are now watching the demise of it's organization. We peaked some time ago but we didn't realize the shift to downturn. The closest analogy we glimpsed was entropy.
In summary, while the potential for collapse exists, it's important to consider the challenges and efforts being made to address them. It's also important to remember that collapse is not inevitable and that human resilience and innovation have helped us to overcome many challenges in the past.
Civilisation will not collapse, we have dafydd!
Disagree as the west becoming more corrupt and inflation going high and countries not using the usd. That could cause collapse.
The greatest challenge to this optimistic perspective is the growth of extremism and disinformation online, which erodes shared understanding and trust and undermines collective policy efforts.
If in the event of extreme disaster on a global scale, anyone who thinks that those surviving will put aside squabbling over petty differences, and pull together to cooperate, I should like to point out how people behaved during the covid19 pandemic, and the callous selfishness displayed as store shelves were emptied of essentials and millions of a**holes refused precautionary measures such as wearing masks and getting vaccine inoculations...
@@NigerianCrusaderdafydd???
"Without civilization, most people would not have been born" -- that's why there were so few humans before 1991. Thank Sid Meier for saving us.
underrated comment, by far the best of this comment section
Bet most people ain't gonna get it
No worries boys we can just buy things with faith👌
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The past couple of years has really given me this sense that the world is more unstable than just a few years ago. Maybe we aren't facing extinction, but it does feel like there is a real chance of civilization stumbling. I hope that is just a worst case scenario. But I can't help but feel a tension, a sense of fear.
In a way we're slowly but surely digging our own grave lol
well we are in a disruptive phase. All the entropy cause by the rapid technological advances of the last century is still in the system. I mean, the global goal of finance and politics was to create stability at all costs. The rigidity and security acted as guarantor for the economy to savely invest an grow. Phase change is long overdue however and the longer we wait the more voilent it will be (perhabs).
i pray we only stumble but the great filter is looking more and more imminent
It is all because of russia.
Not worrying about things that are out of your control will make you a happier person. Edit: I would like to shoutout the user Jul W down below for doing his damndest to insult as many users as possible.
Playing The Fallen Eagle for CK3 really drove home how rough civilisational collapse is.
"Kurzgesus isn't real, it can't hurt you" Kurzgesus: (2:27)
Reminds me of Hari Seldon coming up with Psychohistory in the Foundation series by Isaac Ssimov. Not trying to prevent the collapse of civilization, but to minimize its duration and damage in order for a new civilization to arise from the ashes as soon as possible. Of course Psychohistory is pure sci-fi (for now) but it's definitely one of the most interesting ideas I've encountered in sci-fi.
I'm currently re-reading the Foundation series for the 4th time because every year that goes by seems like another year of confirmation for the eminent global civilization collapse...
Psychohistory is just Fancy Word for Dialectical Materialism.
@@ravenknight4876 it honestly looks like its the other way around
Whoever wrote this video is about as clued in as Azimov's encyclopedists! 🤣
Yeah until you fund out it’s all completly bullshit thanks to Galaxia and Daneel
“When we look at modern man, we have to face the fact...that modern man suffers from a kind of poverty of the spirit, which stands in glaring contrast to his scientific and technological abundance; We've learned to fly the air like birds, we've learned to swim the seas like fish, and yet we haven't learned to walk the Earth as brothers and sisters...” ― Martin Luther King Jr.
"...yet we haven't learned to walk the Earth as brothers and sisters..." We're at our best when we're separated, thanks though. I'm not walking in harmony with people who don't put out the effort and possess the same level of conscientiousness that I do. Doesn't matter who they are.
@@creep_n One can't make every neighbor like them even with the best of effort which is what the commenter was saying.
@@Matt-fs1yy "same level of consciousness" my eyes are gonna roll so hard they could power a turbine you degenerate racist
@@Matt-fs1yy Effort and "conscientiousness" are subjective matters on a scale relative to your environment and upbringing. Do your best to make a friend out of anybody, and you will soon find that they excell in skills that you do not possess and follow respectable values of their own.
@Alex W. No, that's a very bad idea though. What if they murder all your children or something for no reason? Do you think that you should still show them kindness and compassion? Of course not, your response should be to kill them or ensure that their murderous genes are eliminated so that they don't inflict misery on future generations. If somebody hasn't done anything heinous like that then showing compassion and kindness and all of that is fine, but you can't just show compassion in all circumstances, especially in a situation like I mentioned where the recipient of your compassion ensures your extinction!
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Honestly these videos are so fun and entertaining to watch and I love how much they teach me they are addicting
doesnt give me much hope that this video is less about "are we on the brink of civilization collapse" and more about "a complete collapse wouldn't be THAT bad"
Starving to death isn't so bad.
@@1pcfred getting hit with a nuclear bomb? nah not too bad lol
Not that bad for those who come after you, that is!
We will not collapse they didn’t even mention colonizing other planets, mining the asteroid belt etc.
Collapse is the only chance we have to change things for the better. We know that if things continue as normal we're all screwed.
The subject of this video is actually: "Can civilization recover after collapse?".
Agreed, I'm surprised that they didn't actually answer the question presented in the title. I think that this is one of the few of their videos that's left me a bit puzzled
The title is 'will we collapse' and video shows that 'we may recover'. That's a indirect yes to me. They can't just say 'yes it'll happen' right? That's why they don't directly give the answer.
plus he got the wrong answer. the answer is no.
@@darklight6921 of course civilisation will collapse, what are u talking about
great video! Well put together. Quick question. Your measurement for the lifespan of a civilization. How was that measured?
A good reminder for all of us is that we should try to do one small good deed at the time, day by day. Those are the things that will make the difference in the future.
Well, the title-question "Is civilization on the brink of collapse?" wasn't really answered. Instead, we got a nice explanation of what a collapse of civilization would mean and why humanity itself would probably survive it
They did answer it. They stated that every major civilization has collapsed and that we're no different, in fact worse off because of our ties to current tech, networking, and major supply chains. That said, they can't just start calling off a bunch of predictions that lead to the collapse, only give examples if something were to go wrong in our very fragile society.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 naah, very clickbait title to peddle the bs book.
@@the_crypter how would we know we are totallly different from what we were 100 years ago shit even the last 30 or so years. We can only draw back from the past bc we haven’t quite a collapse in modern times just yet.’if we end up surviving one in the future someone will make a video of that in the future but most likely we’ll be dead
Well... the video basically implied yes.
Yeah before the collapse was more local, now it is global.
I have no doubt that a new sort of civilization could emerge after a collapse. But still, the problem is what happens to us before there's a new civilization that emerges. I'd like not to spent the end of my life scavaging for food because our current lifestyle is not sustainable...
EXACTLY. These things don't happen overnight they take some serious time to recover.
Right? It's rad that humanity as a whole is pretty resilient but I think it's in everyone's best interest that we work to prevent collapse rather than recover 😅
That’s when you can choose to opt yourself out. There’s plenty of fast exits.
@@ZombieOfun The problem is, the moment someone says what must be done to prevent collapse (eradicate capitalism), people get extremely defensive, because we've been taught that "this is how things are". And so we keep threading this self-destruction path because everyone is too afraid of ghosts created by the capitalists.
that is coming up soon sorry to tell ya
You know what is great saying we should do something and knowing you don't have a solution while knowing it is impossible.
This is what insane people do.
Many things were once thought impossible by minds of your stature
I am learning english while i see your interesting videos, thanks for teach us all this curious things
2:27 WHY IS THERE AN AMOGUS????
Sus🤨
he is the imposter so he got injected out
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SUS!?!?!?
"Some people will probably survive." Thank you Kurzgesagt, very reassuring.
Cataclysmic events work like lysol. We can't all just perish lol.
Optimist: the glass is half full Pessimist: the glass is half empty Bitcoiner: the glass is totally decentralized
I mean, that's how it would most likely go
"Just leave some petrol for future societies to go the way of the dodo just like we will repeating all of our mistakes"
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 except nukes aren't lysol... they're nukes. and last I checked humans don't have the ability to uptake plasmids for survival, nor do we have inherent genes that make us resistant to radiation poisoning. Yeah, antibiotics and thermonuclear weapons are not the same.
"Humanity is like a teenager, speeding around blind corners, drunk, without a seat belt." Maybe the best quote in the whole video.
Humanity will thrive, progress and become immortal only when empires and the concept of empire is permanently erased from the psyche of humanity.
Kinda surprised that the title question was never directly answered - the question wasn't "Could civilization recover from collapse?" It was "Is civilization on the brink of collapse?" This went curiously unanswered 🤔
No doubt. Underrated comment
Exactly. It's also kind of dreadful how answering the question "Could civilization recover from collapse?" only implies that the collapse is coming and it's inevitable
The answer is yes.
Also curious that they barely mentioned the biggest threat to us: climate change... I honestly think it's because Kurzgesagt knows that the collapse has already begun...
@@AllenSmithe no lol. The pendulum is already swinging. All of the stupid decisions being made will end soon.
As an amateur marine ecologist i just wanna give a shout and massive thanks for mangroves, seagrasses, salt marshes, and phytoplanktons for their contribution to sustain us with absorbing CO2 that we produce.
They are amazing at filtering water too. There was a flood near my grandparents house, and a lot of sediment and junk would have been washed out to sea, and it was, but the area around the mangroves looked much cleaner. It wasn't clean, cause there was a lot of microorganisms like Ecoli and you didn't swim near any rivers, but it it just stopped the potential affects of massive sediment outwash. And some people could recover lost items in the mangroves, but a few feet got hurt cause of those upwards roots
I wish I could smoke them out for that tbh they’re real for that
@@rocketcello5354 thank god for certain microorganisms
As an amateur human I just want to give a shout out to all mammals. Without you the plant life as we know it today would not be able to survive.
So can we grow more of them instead of killing all the cows and eating insects instead?
We've already used the easy oil. And most of the less easy oil. If we mess up now, there's not much left to rebuild with
i always love your videos!! i have no right to suggest but i would love to see a video on how society would react to the zombie apocalypse and how it would effect our (world) population:)
I like how the entire video ignores the question if the civilization is on the brink of collapse and just focuses on the recovery after the fact.
Kurzgesagt-Fans should know more than Anyone that any Potential Collapse or Suffering can be fought by learning about the Problems. So here, i will just randomly drop Climate-Change-Coverage, Workerclass-Struggle-Coverage and more Useful Info: -Some More News -Climate Town -Not Just Bikes -Hbomberguy -Adam Something -Our Changing Climate
Yeah, i think the video is good, but as you say, it doesen't really even address the title they chose.
Funded by gates foundation channel sucks
I think they did at the start, as much as they can without getting super political. "Civilizations collapse about every X years, its not a question of if, but when." If you look at the timelines, we are also pretty close to X years. An interesting example is that a most countries collapse after about 250 years. The USA is only a few years away from that age, and its tensions are getting pretty high.
Theyve discussed many ways the world could "end." Its such a complicated tight rope walk, nobody actually knows if we are close or not. The point of this video wasnt wild speculation, just that it doesnt matter in the long run if it does collapse
I feel like there is alot of reasons the current civilization as we know it would have collapse. We have so many things against us at this moment, but at the same time, maybe it's just our perspective. Nowdays we receive so much information in a single day, that perhaps our situation isn't much diferent than older civilizations, we're just more aware of whats going on in the world. I don't really think our brains are used to that much information yet.
Industrial revolution only started 200 years ago. Then, development went exponentially. There hasn't been so much CO2 in the athmosphere since thousands of years, only because of humans. The last 2 centuries are crazy compared to earlier human life
A hundred years ago, the economy collapsed so hard most things were sold for pennies, and it was called the Great Depression. We dealt with world wars, outbreaks of awful diseases, and the constant threat of random nuclear annihilation during the entirety of the cold war. Times are hard now, but they've always been hard. Truth is the good old days weren't really all that good. Humans have a _lot_ of flaws, but if there's one thing we do right, it's tenacity. I mean hell, in the 1900s, we created airplanes and gained the ability to fly. 50 years later, we put a man on the fucking moon. 50 years. It's incredible what we can do when we put our minds to it. We will pull through, because that's what we do.
This sounds like something a human trying to cope with our species’ reality would say. We may have fancier gadgets but make no mistake we are just as stupid, shortsighted, quick to anger, and violent as our cavemen ancestors. The reason civilizations never last is because humans cannot fathom a lack of control and power. It’s ingrained in us to conquer all that we can
@@Tommy50377 50 years ago we went on the moon 50 years later and we are debating on if slavery should be taught in public schools. If that’s not regression then I don’t know what is
I agree, with the access of social media, we are more exposed than ever to everyday events, violence and conflict. Our time is no different from what was before, we’re just more aware, and that’s scary
ur the reason i got into quantun mechanics and the study necela fusion
This is why becoming a prepper and learning as many practical skills for becoming self sufficient is my end goal. Learning the skills to survive and thrive is what my kids and I do
Kurzgesagt: "Should you worry about climate change? Of course not, dummy!" Also Kurzgesagt: "We'll be fine if 90% of people die... On an evolutionary timescale." I feel so much better about climate change now. On evolutionary timescales, my horrifying death won't matter to me!
its pretty concerning to see how many people are complementing kurzgesagt for this video. It's strangely disrespectful to the very fans of the channel.
@@maxtoke5557 I agree in many ways , but it is our opinion I think these guys are being waaay too optimistic and unintentionally /intentionally manipulating us
Yep. This channel suffers from what I might call harmful optimism.
@@jaredhoeft2832 🤡🦍
You should not worry about climate change, but you should worry about those that are constantly trying to convince you, you should worry...
I'm happy to learn that a mere four centuries after our horrible deaths from civilizational collapse, humanity might finally find life slightly more tolerable again before the cycle begins anew. Thank you Kurzgesagt!
And they don't even get into how we're running out of easily exploitable non-coal energy sources and how renewable or nuclear are nowhere near good enough to replace them (1. because they cost too much upfront energy just to build the new extraction/generation tech, 2. because we're nowhere near having replaced our supply-chain-critical vehicles with electrics), meaning any civilizational recovery will have to stop at the agricultural stage for lack of high-density energy sources to rebuild anything anywhere close to the kind of industry we have today. They're always trying so damn hard to be positive that they end up spreading disinformation, like that utter stupidity from that guy's book, about how we need more people instead of fewer - true, if you want to burn through the remaining energy even faster, and be ever more certain that any civilizational rebirth will be impossible because humans will have nothing to power it with. We're simply almost done on this planet, industrial civilization is done, especially since we're being fed absurd optimistic disinformation like this, lulling us back to sleep and business as usual, ensuring that we will burn all of the remaining easy-energy and leave nothing for the next cycle of civilization that might otherwise have been possible.
I don't think the time scales are valid any longer in terms of how long a civilization survives. It seems to be quite a bit longer.
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I mean........why can't all Countries just go back to the drawing board, reset and just write off all debt and start over. Nobody owes anything, not a penny ! See what I did there
None of the previous collapses involved making the climate so extreme so fast that our physiology cannot adapt to such sudden change.
You have to think a lot of stuff relies on electricity. That goes down sets us back over 100 years.
"Did we manage to unlock a new fear for you?" Yes, it happens everytime I see a new Kurzgesagt video or learn a new thing. The possibilities of using the wrong way any knowledge is so great. The good thing is watching these videos show at least someone cares on not going the wrong path. Thanks guys!
Try some exurbia videos :p
Truth be said. Kurzgesagt is my monthly does of existential dread.
It'll be fine, just buy this pretty map poster!
So you acknowledge every time you see something new like this it gives you a new fear? That’s exactly what the AI wants. The machine wants you afraid and anxious so you’re easier to control.
My brain is like: BEEP, BEEP! New existential fear unlocked! Specifics: - Number assigned: 189 - Scale: The whole humanity. - Probability of coming true: Depends. Beeeeep..... The fear has been categorized and put to the archive. Sector C. 😄
Beautifully animated as always. What I don't like is how you avoid the very question that is asked in the title of the video. Instead of looking at possible signs of a looming collapse you skip right ahead to the rebuilding phase. This is probably trying to put a hopeful, positive spin on things but it basically accepts collapse as a reality as if it has already happened. Which, sadly, makes the title seem like click bait.
Whether or not it’s a little clickbait-ish, you should know they did a video on the topic you’re describing some time ago
It is inevitable.
this whole channel is click bait Edit: intended for children and the feeble minded, for those who cannot think for themselves, and using cartoons to discuss serious matters non-satirically is a big clue
@@wrongfootmcgee theres nothing wrong with cartoons as a medium, you're not a forward thinker because of trust issues with media
This is just a sales pitch for the book and Effective Altruism (EA) in general
I think it's harder for us to recover from a collapse now then before the industrial revolution. Also now that we are so connected I think a global collapse is much more likely then local ones
I love the "ingenuous" optimism of this channel 😃❤💙💚💛💜
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes" - Mark Twain
@SneedGaming ok I believe you
"Jar Jar is the key to all of this." - Mark Twain
“There is reason for optimism.” Also Kurz: “…teenager. Reckless, drunk, without a seatbelt.”
teenagers are optimistic. That's why they're reckless, driving drunk without a seatbelt. Otherwise they will be at home huddling in fear.
Loved that one.
Those are important for natural selection, which is good for a species' survival
Kurz: I'm playing both sides so that I always come out on top
@@ZeroDAreaper it objectively is if you’re not brain dead, and just think for five seconds.
I love how there's a little among us dude floating around at 2:27
I feel modern society is collapsing. Nobody wants to work, I refuse to commute downtown to a big city because of the endless traffic, traffic is just getting worse in any city. Cost of living and housing is going crazy, and everyone is impatient always in a rush to get anywhere. Also in the future the wars between nations will not be over oil, but over water.... we are running out and it's not a renewal resource.
“An empire impossible to topple, stable and rich and powerful. Until it wasn’t anymore” Truer now than it ever was
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All of human civilization in a nutshell. Usually due to corruption in one way or another.
I mean, less true now that it has ever been, but possible for it to be more true in the future than it was in the past. 😉
@@namAehT Or disunity leading to the breaking down of borders or outside invasion among others. Edited 1.4.12023
you mean also The American Empire?
This video is so optimistic while not really acknowledging that most of the "us" watching this, would still not survive.
Yeah that bit was weird. This whole video was a bit odd.
and all the comments acting like this is hopeful and not absolutely tragic
Kurzgesagt as always takes the most naive approach to really complex and deep problems. I feel like this is nothing more than propaganda.
@@k7450 yeah I find the tone utterly bizarre. I got the sense the message was "hey don't worry too much about the inevitable collapse of modern human society that is likely coming, we will probably recover in about 10 thousand years time". I'm like, no, how about we do something now to prevent collapse and the unimaginable suffering that would come along with it? Why just accept what we could change with enough collective effort? This channel is a bit shady at times. Often feels like it normalises current systems of inequality and tries to divert peoples anxieties in to a false sense of optimism.
Yep, consoling propaganda. At this point i'm convinced they weigh view count vs. honesty and the former wins
2:27 *Guy just vibing there.*
He's really good at making medieval and classical looking characters or buildings. Maybe he should make some history videos?
Doesn’t give me much hope that this video is less about “are we on the brink of a civilization collapse” and more about “a collapse wouldn’t be that bad”
Because in the end you don't matter. Humanity collectively matters, but individuals don't.
@@DragonWoolf its actually the other way around. The continual pursuit of redemption of the individual saves humanity. The obsession around the collective destroys humanity.
that's gates foundation money for you
@@wheatandtares9764 Let me guess. Jordan Peterson fan?
@@abstract5249 Communism and Nazism were fundamentally oriented around the collective, not the individual. Communism moreso, but Nazism revolved around the term "das Volk" (=the people), and the optimization of it. These ideologies were disastrous beyond comprehension, killing millions of innocents. Contrarily, in Ancient Rome many life philosophies revolved around improving the individual spiritually, intellectually, socially, and otherwise-- a comparetively less disastrous outcome. Capitalism is fundamentally individualistic, and while it has its own many issues, it is yet to produce a genocidal outcome like those seen from populist and socialist leaders in the past. Obsession with the collective allows authorities to control its people fiercly and puts society in a frenzy over nonsensical ideals. Both are very dangerous.
The funny part about any collapse theory is that almost all people believe that they will be among the survivors.
Especially the elites, who think they will get to impose their will on the survivors-history shows that rulers fare the worst in a collapse scenario, as they get targeted as being responsible for the collapse, whether or not they actually were (though they usually were). They're too busy rewriting history to learn anything from it.
Oh boy, that's a point to make, but I simply attribute it to overconfidence and optimism bias (though beware of the opposite, catastrophizing events.)
That's your thesis.
As if it matters. The vast majority of people in the modern world would not want to live in a post-collapse world. Who cares if you survive, if everybody you know dies. It would be like starting a new save file and starting a completely new life. In discussions like these I'm reminded of the guy in Sarajevo who sheltered in place during the siege. He survived by looting stores and doing whatever he can. When the siege ended after 2 years he committed suicide, because he couldn't adapt to the old world.
And thinking humans will exist forever. That's such a strange human hybris and narcisstic trait. Humans are not any different than other species. 200.000 years isn't much. It's almost guaranteed we will go extinct like every other mammal species. There is a reason intelligent life is so rare on earth
Thanks for the vid. Always great.
love your videos! always masterpieces 🔥
OMG AMONGUS AT 2:27 HAHAHA
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It is nice to know that civilization can likely recover. But I would strongly prefer that it wouldn't collapse in the first place and I think I am not alone with this idea.
It's going to collapse. Probably very soon. Best thing you can do I assassinate evil political leaders and others in power
@Анатолий Ручка all with very little power and influence on our politicians.
We would all prefer that we wake up tomorrow in our soft beds, our air conditioned houses, in our neighborhoods with conveniently built infrastructure. That hardly changes the fact that all which goes up must eventually come down, and the loftier the heights, the harder the impact with the cold hard ground becomes. Enjoy your comfortable life while you can, but prepare for the trials you must endure so that your posterity might be spared such burdens.
The world is more than America and Europe. So relax.
It would be nice if we didnt collapse but i think if we dont we will end being oppressed by governments and the people who will ruin as many peoples lives as possible to make a little extra money and they are the people in power and we need collapse to take those people out of power so we can restart but hopefully it doesnt come to that but i doubt humans will just now learn to be better
"Humanity is like a teenager. Speeding around blind corners without a seatbelt."-Kurzgesagt.
I wonder if you guys will ever research into games. The genres, what makes it interesting to people, why is it stimulating, it's history in human behaviour and pros and cons. I think it would be an interesting topic (This idea came about because I spotted an Amongus lol)
Saving coal and oil for future catastrophes is a great justification for moving away from them that I've never considered before
We won’t run out of fossil fuels for centuries at least, I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with using them, but they’re not the most efficient. Nuclear, geothermal, and hydroelectric power generation are probably our best bets with the “cleanest footprint” if you’re into that garbage.
It's been my reasoning to "Stop Burning It" for a decade now, Oil & NatGas is needed for so many more important things that burning it to turn things is a massive waste of resources when (nuclear & other non carbon) electricity can turn them better. And I work in the O&G industry, seeing oil wells go dry on my run was a big wake up call.
@@dalel3608 We cant switch over to electric before we figured out and have a good infrastructre around it. All it does now is that the demand is driving the prices up.
True
@@WarriyaAndPalimine Kind of a chicken/egg problem though, the infrastructure only grows as fast as electric car usage grows. But this argument isn't just about cars, we don't need any new infrastructure for nuclear power for instance
Dude great graphics , what software you use for Making animations 🎉
People talk about Hiroshima, but the more impressive feat of recovery is Tokyo. 16 square miles of Tokyo was burned entirely to ash and saw upwards of 100,000+ people killed, and a million left homeless. That's 95% of their capital turned to cinders over night. Who knows how many died after that just trying to survive
Who did did this
This demonstrates why it’s so important to have at least some degree of national and even local independence in terms of providing for the essentials. Things like manufacturing microchips obviously can’t be decentralized, but what about power? Food? Water? These are the important things to decentralize as much as possible.
They're important also because localized manufacture of common goods can significantly cut down on greenhouse gas emissions caused by large scale global trade.
Yeah, the pandemic-related supply chain issues have shown we've got some big late bronze age energy afoot. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to write a bad review on some jerk on ebay who sold me some crappy copper stock before the sea peoples show up.
@@Archgeek0 Pandemic isnt even talking about how the two bread baskets of the world are in a peer-to-peer FUCKING LAND WAR IN EUROPE
That cannot be anymore true, especially for combatting stuff like climate change. Specific adaptations to solve certain problems is the key to avoid a collapse. Solution, give the people on the ground what they need to solve the problem properly and quickly!
it's called alter-globalization/alterglobalist. Focus on sustaining your own nation while not fully being anti globalist or separatist/isolationist.
“Let’s counter existential dread with appreciation for humanity. Look how far we’ve come as a species.” This is the thing I always appreciate about these videos, they manage to make you feel hopeless throughout most of the video, only to offer you some encouraging words at the end.
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then again, there are the amogus’ in the video
DUDE WHY IS THIS GUY LITERALLY EVERYWHERE IN THE COMMENT SECTION OF EVERY VIDEO I WATCH WTF
Yeah they alway tip toe the line of existential dread and optimism that seems unwarranted considering what humans are doing.
“Collapse” is just another word for change, and I think those changes become more subtle and gradual as technology and governing / legal frameworks evolve. Even in a catastrophe like nuclear war, we know humans have the capability to manage and adapt. I mean we just watched this in real-time during the COVID pandemic. We expedited vaccines and issued policies to mitigate risk. Problems arose when fragments of society (including in government) made this “political,” spread disinfo, and undermined policies and science. This is always going to be the main threat moving forward. So yes, the world is always changing. A “brink” implies a clear and measurable drop-off point, which probably will not happen. Globalization greatly strengthens our ability to manage crises. What we will witness instead will be increased isolated atrocities and challenges, and how we meet them will depend almost entirely on our cultural values and political decisions. Which is why MEDIA AND COMMUNICATION are actually the most important thing in the 21st century - how we define our society, how we perceive our reality. Also why disinformation and extremism proliferating online is low-key the greatest threat we currently face, though it continues to be neglected.
You forgot about the brains behind most technological advances we've seen so far. Most people don't even know how a microwave works, let alone be able to rebuild an entire generation filled with technology and whatnot...
flint and steel should work, and i know it sounds like minecraft but yea it works. flint is a lot easier to come by than you think, there is an abundance of flint around rivers and coasts, make them sharp by throwing them on a hard surface. metal is just any piece of scrap metal you find, won't make the best sparks but there will be some.
"History is full of incredible recoveries from horrible tragedies" This might be one of my favourite quotes of Kurzgesagt
Like you’re some kind of prophet? Okay Nostradamus!
Kurzg is making ALL those videos now because western politics have become obsessed with fear mongering
@JZ's BFF I have news for you. 100% of literally everyone will die. So no need to feel disadvantaged or alone for that matter. We all share the same fate one day; Non-existence.
History is also full of avoidable tragedies.
Turn your setbacks into comebacks
Great video as always
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Fun fact: there aren’t enough natural resources left to jumpstart a second Industrial Revolution so if society collapse we’ll be at a level of medieval tech for the rest of our existence
Im fine with that, theres too many of us anyways itll toughen up the softer ones or they DIE HAHAHAH all our problems stem from our outrageous shelteredness and boredom
I love that among us guy next to The Satellite.
This is probably one of the most optimistic and inspiring ones you've done yet. I needed this today, thank you.
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Don't translate him he will curse you with death unless you subscribe to his channel.
@@mishan6908 ok i wont
@@mishan6908 you fool i have seen the golden monkey
fun fact if this were to happen, you would die you wouldnt rebuild civilisation a small percentage of humans would youd perish, theres your optimism
Alongside the many valid criticisms already in the comments, I want to point out that recovery, post-civilizational collapse, does not mean that the civilization itself survived; merely that another eventually replaced it. We are not the Romans, even if we ended up carrying on some of the elements of Roman civilization. When the current "Western Civilization" collapses, whatever replaces it will be something else. And the "Global Civilization" is utterly dependent on the former - when the West falls, globalism falls with it.
West has all the necessary experience and capabilities to stop our fall. It is just a question if West wants to survive or no.
@@SidorovichGaming Sadly "west" is not a monolithic block. It is not a matter of "west" wanting or not, it is a matter of individuals and a struggle against power.
@@SidorovichGaming It is in the process of a very painful suicide, I think.
Civilizations could be replaced but not totally annahilated, the legacy never ceased and inherited to the decendant civilization. We may not be Romans, but the Roman legacy is still alive within western/European civilization as law, engineering, philosophy, social structure, art of governmening, and has been expanded via global colonising until modern era. We may not Romans but the civilization is still surviving. I don't judge such... violent methods/trends which occured and used during the expansion, but just suggesting the civilizations are move on, even after some horrible purge or oppression. We all still got some fragment of local/older civilization whether its original owner gone or not, affected from tradition and culture. So I think it is good enough to tend it as surviving.
@Nate Z Nobody in China has The Mandate of Heaven
Agriculture, industrial, information, AI stage techs……, technological, economic & social, health & education, administrative management policies……, the more things we can do with techs, the more we should do with policies. Mastering policies for people's profit management at certain tech-level, R & D policies for new techs will be vital. I hope we can improve wealth production & distribution, plus human uplift & involvement with new techs & policies.
I think you should consider to add Turkish Kruzgesagt Channal to KZhead , there is more than 80 Mn people are living in Turkey and most of them are young people. I am sure a lot of young Turkish people are following your channel with subtitles even now, also Turkey is a developing country so a lot of young people can learn a lot of things from you guys, thank you.
I think most of us care a lot more about how/if civilisation will collapse than whether humanity as a whole could pull through.
agreed, its pretty obvious humanity will live. Even with a nuclear holocaust people say we will be extinct... lol yeah okay. We are a virus, we wont die off that easily.
I like the subtle among us floating in 2:27
@@simonvutov7575 who asked?
@@JustaPonderer Amogus
@@JustaPonderer I did
3 months later, I watch this video to go to bed to, and at 2:27 I notice what was in the background. I'm going insane.
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me too lol
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I love the animations on yhis Chanel. Its truly a modern gem in cartoon history
This is a very optimistic video with a positive feel. I mean for one about the death of 7 to 8 billion people that is.
Human history shows that adaptability is our greatest strength. The human race has shrugged off extinctions of thousands of species because of our adaptability. The problem is that modern-day civilisation is not actually that adaptable unless we change our tastes and make some key innovations.
We have the key innovations, we know what to do, but the majority of people is too comfortable with their status quo, so why change it? As usual we will start adapting once we really see the repercussions. This time it might be too late by then. I wouldn't say we became more or less adaptive, thought, we became overall more resillient, too, considering modern medicine and other technology. So we have the resources, now we just gotta convince 8 billion people to get an open mindset and change their lives so we can safe everyone, not just a select few.
The human race has CAUSED the extinctions of thousands of species, and not because of our adaptability...
Your answer reminds me of a deep conversation I had with my best friend when we were teenagers. I had a crisis and asked him "what keeps you going? You don't believe in anything. Why keep going?" He was quiet for a few moments and responded with "I believe in human adaptability. To say I don't believe in anything because of my lack of religion doesn't mean I have no beliefs. Humans can overcome, so we must push through to keep it going." And since then I've enjoyed that idea. This was many decades ago, and it was a powerful conversation for 15 year Olds for us. Good times.
We're not the most adaptible species of Humans - That award goes to the incredibly strong and intelligent Homo erectus, but Homo sapiens still has 200000 years under our belt, which is still nothing to sneeze at
@@DerJuvens Don't expect a paradigm shift from the large quantities of Entitled , Hedonist babies.... That ship sailed. Truth is ; " The Great Acceleration" / sixth mass Extinction is in motion, which is easily scientifically verifiable. The first step is Accepting our errors and false Assumptions . If Hope is something rooted in Techno industrial Capitalist optimism - it's pure fantasy.
5:30 There was even a guy who was visiting Hiroshima on business when the bomb was dropped. He survived but because of the destruction it was 3 days before he could return home... To Nagasaki. He gut home just in time to survive the second atomic bombing in history. But the question remains, was he lucky to have survived 2 atomic bombings, or unlucky to be there when they happened. Tsutomu Yamaguchi passed away in 2010, at the age of 93.
Eric Taylor God that's horrible
How the hell did he survive that?
Right. Its like when Greg Brady found the tiki in Hawaii. He was wearing it around his neck when some bad things happened... but he was unhurt. He and his brothers assumed it was bad luck. But Mr. Brady, in his patriarchal wisdom, pointed out that it could have been protecting him and that is why he was unhurt. So I would say the guy was lucky. I mean... who can say that they were there for BOTH bombs AND survived. Incredible.
Both.
Since luck is something only recognized in the past tense and more of a trait prescribed to survivors I would say he was lucky. Anyone living to their 90s alone is lucky...
The modern global civilisation is best defined by the British Empire and its entrance into the industrial revolution around the start of the 19th century. This means the current civilisation has only been running 200 years or so. 250 at most. this means we have about 100 years left. The interesting thing is that this conveniently matches the approximate time we will fail to meet our energy requirements... presuming we don''t get fusion power working. (and no, solar and wind is not good enough, it requires regular replacement and unsustainable resources like silica)
Having a area like the seed vault would help maybe having a city built underground would help save our stuff
Kurzgesagt has the right mix of techno optimism and doomsday warning to motivate the audience into reducing existential risks. It’s a noble strategy and it appears it’s working - I’m happy to be part of it.
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I've seen it actually working. Kurzgesagt did motivate some people I know to be better.
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Techno but less upload time and more ethical theories of our society and life.
@@mishan6908 ok
Speaking of civilization collapse, would you ever do a video on a polar flip? Or the impact/solutions for a weaker magnetic field?
♥️know♥️ 1 John 5 KJV 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1 Corinthians 15 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 KJV 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
A video about secular variation of the earth’s magnetic field would be fascinating. Polar flip is extremely unlikely to happen without a preceding weak magnetic field, and there are no indications that the field is experiencing any significant weakening. You’d want to see a long term weakening of the field before making a prediction. A large impact could cause a much faster pole reversal, but now you’re talking about an event that would cause civilization collapse well before a polar flip caused problems. It’s low low low low probability that we would see a civilization ending chron (flip) in our lifetimes. But let’s say we did. What do you suspect might happen? Would electric motors turn in the opposite direction, like they do in Australia?
@@alexanderbrown2717 nobody cares
@@alexanderbrown2717 Keep it in church
Lol dont let them sheeps know about this... this is secret information. Everything is going fine guys, no worries.
Anycollapse should only set us back 100 years + the current knowledge of the survivors. One teacher can educate many students.
well we all gotta go sometime might as well go together its better then going alone the comfort in knowing you are not the only one.