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Anyone knows if update the game to 1.0 version I shall lose the glitches to clone pokémon?
I agree with you but in some aspects they went too faithful.
“These games were revolutionary” Me: go on… “They introduced Wormadam” Ya know…he’s right
I’d pin this if I could
C'mon that's not a re- **DRIP Wormadam appears** Understandable, you have some good points.
Loved the cynthia vid
Nah, he forgot *Cherrim*
@@Zek3nator as he should
The clunky feel explained: The world models are built in 3D, but their collision hitboxes are still on the 2D grid. You still have to move exactly in the 2D grid, hence the constant bumping and clunky feeling
Exactlyyyy, this summed up that weird feeling I get perfectly. Using the bike feels so weird in this game
They seriously should've adjusted the world to fit this, if they had even made some of these really tight areas even 1 square wider to better accomadate the new camera and movement this wouldn't be nearly as bad of an issue imo.
I haven't played the game yet, but as he was talking about it, my first thought was "the walls around the objects are bigger than the object". I think you said it more accurately though.
Yup this is exactly it. The creators were so lazy and dumb they copy pasted the exact map of the original games. No adapting to the new 3D movement or even platinum updates. Junichi masuda ruins yet another pokemon game
Yet, you aren't bound to the grid that clearly exists.
I agree that the remakes are better than the originals. However I disagree that they are better than Platinum. I think Platinum is still the overall superior version, because it handles Pokémon and item distribution (especially for evolution items) across the game much better than the other games. Also, the Giratina plot is simply the better story line in my opinion.
Agreed
As well as the 5 battle frontiers/arenas and the Wi-Fi plaza mini games. And let's not forget how much better underground bases were, with capture the flag, traps, and actual base customization. Why'd they nerf it?
I wish they just remade that, I agree whole-heartedly
The distortion world is so fun, and the Cyrus fight is much harder there
@@dugtrioramen my bet, is dlc :/
"A game you play as a kid will be easier as an adult" Me fighting Cynthia: so that was a fucking lie not that I'm complaining
Me as a kid: Beats eternal champions a fighting game on sega genesis. Me as an adult: How tf did I manage to beat this?!
@@AnarickTheDevil Few months back, I saw my save file of DMC 3 and that I actually beat it on Dante Must Die difficulty. How the hell did I manage that back when I was a kid?!!
And now that fairy type moves exist pokemon like Sableye and Spiritomb aren't that OP as they used to be.
@@crimsoncraftycat4044 until her garchomp claps you with that Poison Jab yes, they gave her speedy Garchomp Poison Jab
@@Unknown-wb4ex as well as perfect IVs, EVs, and a berry that reduces damage from ice type moves.
I enjoy these games alot however I do wish they had all the platinum changes in the remakes.
Same.
I’d agree if it was a Platinum Remake, myself I enjoyed the game and I really made me remember when I got my first DS Lite and Pokémon Pearl
What did platinum do differently?
@@michielde7de I would suggest playing it for yourself to experience it, even if u can't get a physical copy you can always emulate the game.
@@thattyguy3273 remember how heart gold and soul silver incorporated the changes crystal added even if they weren't crystal remakes and more? Not being a platinum remake is no excuse for leaving out the things added by the superior version.
My gripe with these games being faithful is... who ever asked for or expected faithful remakes to begin with? Every remake since has greatly improved upon its predecessors with an upgraded experience. Bdsp however doesn't really add anything. I see many people saying "keep your expectations low" but is that really acceptable for a series that already set certain standards? Dppt remakes were the most anticipated remakes in the franchise so of course the standards were high. Bdsp is a nice D&P remaster but is isn't much of a remake at all.
THANK YOU and “keep your expectations low” is what you say about A) a franchise with little money or experience or B) a franchise with money and experience that have gone to crap.
@@gamingblastoise7959 Nah they added way more than just those. Thing is Frlg ,hgss, and oras kept everything their predecessors had to offer and added more. Hgss for instance had everything G/S/C had but also incorporated most of the gen 4 qualities. It also had its own fresh new additions like Safari zone, Pokeathlon, Bug catching contest, walking pokemon, a bunch of new legendary events and interactions with trainers from other regions (Steven stone,Maylene,Crasher Wake,etc). Bdsp doesn't add much of anything compared to those.
@@gamingblastoise7959 Really simplifying FR/LG and HG/SS there. Can guess which one was your favorite.
@@King_Kong_SongFR/LG added the islands too and that huge tower irrc, they also allowed to have events shared with ruby and sapphire i think and also post game pokemon from other places I think
@@ElectricalFlare7201 ORAS left out stuff from Emerald
There’s a lot of reasons everyone wanted platinum remakes than dp. The differences between them is night and day. Seems platinum is still the definitive version
Almost everything they added, a Modder could add them to Platinum today. Underground could be a challenge though.
I’m replaying Platinum right now after having beaten Brilliant Diamond. I had fun with BD but something felt off from all of the little changes they made that weren’t even all for the better. Platinum still feels amazing to play even 12 years on though thanks to the extensive list of both visual and gameplay improvements over base Diamond and Pearl that sadly never made it to the remakes
It's probably a dlc.
Is it? The battle frontier is the only worthwhile addition
@@UVAmatsuo To be fair, everything Platinum added, modders can add to BDSP too. The really hard part would be making assets for the Frontier and Distortion world...
you tellin me back in the days when yellow came out they could manage to keep an interactive moving pikachu sprite following you step for step but 20+ years later all we have is companion pokemon that fall behind then appear next to you when you go too far ahead.....
I always thought it was based on the speed of the pokemon, and they did it to show case how fast the Pokemon was. As stupid it may seem, it made sense to me. But I wasn't too bothered by it as it didn't really stagger the gameplay itself.
@@deliriouszora its been 20 years and they still cant keep a sprite next to you...
@@MadMod666 yeah, but as I said before. Like when they added the following mechanic to SW/SD some pokemon were faster than others, some pokemon wouldn't catch up, because they're usually slow Pokemon in the lore. I don't know if it's like that with this one, but I would assume it's similar.
@@deliriouszora no even "fast" pokemon are incapable of keeping up with the player.,
Not even as far back as that. Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, on this same exact system have better following mechanics. There is literally no excuse for Sw/Sh and BD/SP to fail so hard at something that should be so simple.
I wished Diamond and Pearl would have got the "HGSS/ORAS-Treatment". A complete and real remake with new storybeats, characterdesigns, Mega-Evolution and so on and so on... But what we've got was a IMO pretty lazy remaster with nothing new
That’s what Legends Arceus is supposed to be. If PLA wasn’t a thing and GF was working on BDSP instead of ILCA we likely would have gotten that style of remake. This is ILCAs first game and I think they’ve done great, personally, even if BDSP does have its flaws.
@@peanutbutter6720 I don't care that Legends is supposed to be that what I (and many others) wanted. I wanted BDSP to be *that* and not any other game
Worst remakes ever, they didn’t add enough new contents to the games, basically the same as Diamond and Pearl only with better graphics.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 I feel like the only really improvement w/ the game is how beautiful the graphics are (mostly the backgrounds and towns.)
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"I don't see why people care about Platinum team changes" It's very simple: because the electric gym leader has water and normal types and the fire elite four only has 2 fire types out of his five pokemon. Less than half of his team is his type.
It's a remake of Diamond and Pearl though, not a remake of Platinum. That's always been their MO
@@seanscott2677 HeartGold & SoulSilver is mostly a remake of Crystal rather than Gold & Silver though, so it's no wonder that most people expected more Platinum content
And that's bad how? That's the whole point of move coverage, and the electric gym leader having a water type is incredibly fun. Flint has a lopunny, it can hit you with fighting moves if you're trying to use rock types
@@HMMadsen but crystal added basically nothing when compared to platinum. It added female trainer, a very minor legendary sidequest...and that's it that's what it added, the more notorious thing it did is ironically removing pokemon avilable in gold and silver
@@HMMadsen hmm not sure about that. There's no Odd Egg and aside from Suicune/Battle Tower, there's hardly much difference. BDSP essentially gave people the Platinum dex in Grand Underground, which was a very nice touch. I just think people shouldn't have expected a Platinum remake, but perhaps BDSP could have done more
The issue people have with the Gym Leader and Elite Four DP teams is trainers like Volkner and Flint having their team be half or more Pokemon that aren't even the type those trainers are supposed to be focused on.
Platinum fixed that but unfortunately it was not incorporated into bpsp
@@firetruck1988 Not on the first run anyway, postgame rematch teams for both gym leaders and elite 4 used souped-up Platinum teams
Flint’s team is weird and there’s no argument for that one😂 I agree though with what we’ve seen in other games (Except for Lance) there isn’t much of a break in consistency when it comes to typings. Seeing that Octillery can hit ground types, maybe it’s supposed to be a counter? Same could work with Candace’s Medicham being able to hit fighting types.
I think is better this way. Monotype gyms tend to be easier, because you can bring pokemon that are resistant to their moves or have supereffective moves against them. Gyms that don't have monotype pokémon adds an extra challenge, because it forces the player to think more strategically.
I mean, it kinda gives an extra challenge now doesn't it.
The affection mechanics were never really removed. The Switch Games That You Wish Not to Name simply consolidated them into the friendship mechanics, so if your Pokémon are happy with you in those games, SwSh or BDSP, then they steadily start unlocking the bonuses tied to those. I loved making curry for my Pokémon in SwSh, which _really_ boosts their friendship, so I accidentally unlocked most of the affection bonuses for them when I was only 1 or 2 badges in that game, lol.
*the switch games that you with not to name* Yeah
@@Xman34washere I'm having a stroke
I can picture your lvl 10 Scorbunny, perpetually living on 1HP, like a shounen protagonist, based only on the power of love and friendship. Gym leader: *Why won’t you die!?*
@@neitherlink6612 correction his level 60 Cinderace
@@Xman34washere i just wish they were optional, I don't want my posion heal gliscor to just stop having poison and negates it's ability
As someone who hasn’t played a single Pokémon game since… diamond and pearl, it’s fine. I’m an adult now and I’ve beaten the game and had fun.
But would you spend hundreds of hours on them like you most likely did on DPP?
@@neitherlink6612 I don't know about you, but as a kid I had way more free time and access to a much smaller library of games! I played up to Crystal as a kid and picked up playing all of the games again in 2014, I'm sure I'll spend at least a hundred hours on Shining Pearl that I should be spending sleeping lol.
@@Mildewpants this. I would if I could. Just far too busy now. Which is why I personally like the experience share.
@@neitherlink6612 people actually have jobs and stuff now 🤦🏾♂️
Opposite for me this, remake just basically confirmed why I stopped caring about this franchise. This is a babies game compare to SMTV for example and has not aged well. Graphics look less detailed than Pokémon coliseum, a 2003 game.
I can't speak for everyone but I know for myself, I cared about the Platinum Pokedex simply because the Diamond/Pearl one is so LIMITED and it gives both important characters and random NPCs kinda... bad teams just because they can't have Pokemon that would fit them better. It stifles team diversity in the main game too. The rare spawn in the Underground kind of help that but it's still bad Pokemon distribution pre-National Dex. Also locks a bunch of the new evolutions introduced in Sinnoh out of the picture until the post-game which sucks.
Literally the only good point. I didn’t realize gliscor was locked till post game. But literally everything else gotta say I don’t care. People talking about the updated graphics of platinum like what
Seriously, the distinct lack of Fire-types has gotta be the biggest flaw in any regional Pokédex ever. As I recall, if the player doesn't pick Chimchar as their starter, the only other option is Ponyta.
Yea... having pokemon who were introduced in gen 4, be locked behind post game or not even available to catch is just stupid. There are places FOR THE ITEMS YOU NEED in PLATINUM! Just... WHY
At least if you play shining pearl you can acess houndoom and magby as alternative fire options
They are not awful. But if someday I want to play through Sinnoh once again, and if I have a choice, I'd boot Platinum without a second thought. Or, better, Renegade Platinum. *cough* exactly what I wish BDSP were like *cough* Yeah. The feeling of liking a from hack more than remakes.
Welcome to the Gen III fandom, we've been preferring hacks for years. Emerald got closest, but ehhhhhhh adding extra mons isn't hard (glares at gamefreak) and making tms infinite isn't hard (glares at ILCA). Programming the physical/special split into the 2d games makes them infinitely better.. ORAS could be entirely replaced with a few small hack tweaks to their original games to borrow their better mechanics (which one could argue they simply inherited from the innovations made in gen VI, excepting the DexNav and Soaring which was legit cool and hard to implement in a 2d game)
i rather the remakes the original was too tedious
@@TheEdgeOfDayBreak that's the biggest issue for me, BDSP have so many really great QOL improvements from the newer games, but tying affection to friendship, not being able to toggle exp share, and a bunch of other issues like that really make it hard to call *the* definitive Sinnoh game. It doesn't even add a lot of the additions from platinum, which imo just shouldn't be the case with remakes. I get that theyre remaking Diamond and Pearl not platinum, but there's a reason Platinum was released after DPNwith the additions and improvements it had. Just really lazy, imo
Given BDSP run on unity the possibility of someday having a full Platinum or even Renegade Pt rom hack might be closer than you think
With a forced exp share and trash level curve they are awful by default, even if they were made competently otherwise
Gambling was probably taken out because any simulated gambling in a game in Europe requires the PEGI rating (Europe's ESRB) to instantly be rated for 16+, even if the rest of the game is totally harmless. I imagine ILCA/Game Freak was trying to avoid that because it would probably hurt sales for parents seeing an "16+ rated Pokemon game"
Yet pokemon master and unite exist. Yeah, I don't buy this at all
@@Lightstation_ Free to play/mobile market versus a main series title that costs $60 -- they probably look at it differently internally. It's also possible the team working on this game has different morals/ambitions than the other outsourced dev teams.
The NBA 2k games have a literal slot machine and pachinko machine in their MyTeam game mode and that has a 3 and up rating from PEGI
@@xylynthian753 My understanding is that this change on ratings was relatively recent (within the last 4 months-ish) so they may not have had time to rate a new NBA 2k game yet
Slight correction it's not the equivalent of M-rated wich is 16~18 it's the equivalent of T-rated wich is 12.
I describe this entire game as one step forward, and one steps backwards. Everything they did well and correct was oddly marred by something. The graphics got an upgrade (thats good), but the movement wasn't made to accomidate it (thats bad) the underground gives unique pokemon (good), but by interacting with it your pokemon quickly break the power curve (bad) the routes are long and interesting again, but the trainers are less rewarding and are now just an annoyance (cross reference the power curve) its a one to one recreation, but we added nothing of real substance.
I think the real problem is lore The og remake of kanto Sevii island unknown braille to unlock stuff It's a remake of kanto but it feels like a gen 3 game Hgss Cynthia Arceus unknown hoenh legendaries time traveling battle frontier pokethlone It's Gen 2 remake but with typical Gen 4 stuff Oras had the mega the same touch screen options and much more the multiverse plot connection to the mega evolution and AZ and floette O powers Bdsp simply don't feel connected to galar at all and it's the least belonging to its own gen Frlg definitely gen 3 hgss definitely gen 4 oras definitely gen 6 bdsp kinda gen 8 Frankly Gen 4 overall with this remakes plus legends Arceus will actually have a much better experience considering the whole package I can see that this remake isn't as remarkable as oras and hgss But Sinnoh definitely has the superior whole package with the inclusion of legends Arceus
The underground doesn't even really give unique pokemon, its just stuff that would be in the grass if you were playing platinum, and even then stuff like yanma is still missing until you get national dex.
The graphics are an update in comparison to Diamond and Pearl. But some of the models look somehow worse than previous 3D Pokemon games, look at Ponyta for a specific example, it looks ripped from Gale of Darkness or something. Also some areas have amazing battle backgrounds created for them, then you get crap like the rival fight in Hearthome City where you battle in a flat, white purgatory... for what feels like no reason at all. There are even other city style battle backgrounds they could have just re-used for it, but didn't. Going up stairs or slopes on your bike makes you clip into the wall because I guess the technology for making your character tilt to match the angle of stairs/slopes just isn't there yet in 2021 lmao
@@flareonguy7922 so getting houndoom, elelekid, magby, gligar, etc. BEFORE the nat Dex. Pokemon that aren't in the bd dex Arent unique
@@neppyneppynepu Those are things that would literally be in the dex and in the grass if this was a platinum remake. Big difference is now you can't use things like yanmega,gliscor,dusknoir,porygon,rotom, or nosepass. I'm so glad they removed all of those from the main story so that I could play with houndoom before getting the 2nd badge, the underground was so very worth having to wait for the post game to do much of anything in. Edit: Also nearly forgot that in this game Eevee is a post game thing.
As a competitive player, it's a bummer that they rolled back a lot of the qol improvements they made in sword and shield. No candies/hyper training and breeding takes forever again :( also no dedicated queue for only battling and no online leaderboard is a huge L as well. Edit: also with the exp share also sharing evs to your whole party for some stupid reason and no easy way to undo them like sw/sh it's a pain in the butt to get the evs you want too
Basically you need a maxed EV mon and the mon you're training in the team and that's it. Or train the same EVs together. Have up to 5 mons you want to train in Speed in the party and then swap them out before going in to EV the attacking stats or whatever, for example. SwSh really is the epitome of competitive breeding/preparation imo. Being so easy to find HA mons, cheap bottle caps/introduction of mints and so many TM and TRs makes it easier than ever. I like that.
And that's another reason they need to give us the option to turn the Exp Share off.
It shares EV's?! What the hell I spent the whole game swapping out the Pokémon to KO certain opponents to avoid giving my Haunter defensive EV's and it turns out he was still getting them anyway even if he wasn't the one who KO'd the opponent?
@@caldw615 yup sorry man
@@caldw615 Yeah lol. Ev training shouldn't be considered in BDSP until post game.
10:30 Swalot is actually in BDSP, you just gotta find a Gulpin in the Great Marsh after obtaining the national dex.
The problem with the movement is that the game is made with a tile system from the old games and it doesn’t account for diagonal movement
They are ok games they are safe games, i rate them 7 out of 10. I love what they did with the undergrounds, how late game gym leaders and elite four members have EVed teams with completive moves and items. I just hate the affection feature and the forced EXP Share. The graphics are ok like the Chibi style as that what every game from gen 1 to 5 was but you can tell they were rushed.
I'd say "I don't understand why EXP share can't just be flipped off in options" but I know why: it's a Nintendo game and you WILL play it as Nintended. Well okay that and they want to baby-proof the mechanics so Little Timmy can't turn it off by accident and then have the grandparents ship the entire switch in for repairs saying it's broken
7/10 holds if you haven't already played Platinum, otherwise it's more like 6/10
I've already lost two Nuzlockes
@@priestesslucy3299 Having found out how little platinum content these games have I'm now 50/50 on buying them. I have no idea why they cut so much when Platinum is obviously the most loved out of the trio.
@@caitlin4598 honestly Renegade Platinum is just an all around better game in every way that matters. Apparently these games are easily moddable, so maybe the community will fix them over time 🤷
5:55 A reason could be because of the very limited dex DP has. Say you want to use Gliscor in a Playthrough. Well that's too bad for you cause you have to wait till post game to get the Razor Fang for the Pokemon who's supposed to be native here. I don't really mind the Gym Leader teams because I think the different types of Pokemon that fill a theme like Flint are actually interesting compared to the same typed Pokemon but the dex is a *very* big problem DP has.
they defo should have been a bit less "faithful" when it came to that
That and there's only 2 fire type lines in the whole region, 1 of which is your starter. So if you don't pick Chimchar your only other fire option is Ponyta.
@@caldw615 Same for electric (and I want to say Ice too?), still upset that didn't at least take the liberty to add in pokemon from the Platinum Dex. At least SP gets more options in Houndoom and the magby line in the grand underground. BD only gets houndoom.
This. The dex limit. This is my problem with the games. I want to broaden my team but despite the game having so many different pokemon, they're just not available as you progress through the gym leaders and story. It makes me feel held back and it's too frustrating. I just beat Crasher Wake in my SP game and have been trying to replace my redundant poison type Roselia for two gyms now, but... the breadth the base games usually have just isn't there. It's frustrating.
@@lunayoshi so you didn't like the original game either. Did you have the same issues with the gen 1 remake that's was mostly 1 for 1 till posted game or gen 2 remake that was pretty much the same?
Gen 4 has never been a favourite of mine for a variety of reasons. One being how much they lock out until post game. And this remake didn't do much to change that, infact it felt very phoned in overall.
Everyone wanted an ACTUAL remake. This is a remaster (everything is 1 to 1 the same) at best, and a rushed one at that. A remake creates it’s own formula and enhances the old version. This ain’t it chief.
The grand underground says remake in my book.
@@mariowalker9048 I respect your opinion on it but the rest of the game should’ve done that too. Compare Pokémon Silver to Soul Silver: it was made to take every advantage the DS had. I’ve played 3DS games that look better than Brilliant Diamond and had much more to do for 2/3 the price.
It's like people and ff7remake people wanted a remaster but people asked for a remake and a remake is what they got and people r still butthurt cuz its a remake like people asked for and not a remaster
It’s literally not a remaster look up the definition of remaster. Remaster are upscaled graphics. The fact that the game in the least has updated 3d graphics makes it a remake
That being said, Id rather have a faithful remake, then a SS+dpsp hybrid. If it was released last gen with sun and moon engine for sure id want them to try and do a full reimagining. But sword sucked ass in my opinion didn’t like the shitty routes
As disappointing as not getting another HGSS style remake is, it's still better than the original DP, and I think the comparison between BDSP and Platinum is just down to personal preference. I love that I can just build a new team if I want to temporarily increase the difficulty and try out some new mons. In Platinum that would be hours of grinding.
Platinum is still the definitive version of gen 4
PaPaSea: "The post game content in this game is" _ad cuts in_ "THE LATEST TRUCK FROM DODGE RAM FORD" Me: Yeah I could see some people being surprised by that change from the originals
Honestly, the reason people expect a post-game is because they are fully priced games. I expect it also
Gonna pick up shining pearl probably this weekend Also looking forward to having customization options for Dawn was disappointed in oras when I couldn't customize May after playing x and y
Yo there’s preset options for darker skin tones, Dawn looks so pretty as the olive tan preset, cause it also has mahogany/purple eyes to go with it and brown hair
My emotions were just all over the place with this game (and that's never happened to me in regards to a Pokemon game). And now I'm just left here being like "Well, it's a 'faithful' remake to _Diamond & Pearl_ but was it worth it?" And now I'm nervous about Gen 5 remakes.
Gen 5 remakes are damned either way and I'm honestly not looking forward to them after these low effort titles sold so well. Though I'm interested in seeing if they'll stay faithful to non Unova mon being postgame locked. If they won't do it, it'll take away one of the main things which defined Gen 5 and anger its fans, if they do it, you'll have people bitching again because they can't use Gyarados or Tyrannitar for the 30th time in a playthrough. Either way, the online community is going to turn into a huge mess once these remakes are out.
@@SwiggleMcJiggle It's going to be a mess and I'm going to hate EVERY. MOMENT... of that. And if the games use that same look, it's seriously going to lose its unique edge and feel that the games were trying to convey. I'd rather they try to recreate the fantastic pixel art and animations in a way of games like _Octopath Traveler_ (A very beautiful game that really does marry the pixel art and animations with a visually stunning 3D world)
so whats the TLDR of is this worth buying?
They have _got_ to get their shit together before gen 5 gets remade. It is good to see Gamefreak starting to experiment with what Pokémon could be and trying to modernize it, and while I don’t think Legends: Arceus will be the future of mainline Pokémon, I hope mainline games can at least borrow from Arceus if it ends up being good. I wanna see gen 9 change things up and take some risks to further modernize the formula. Ultimately, I hope this all culminates in gen 5 remakes that are crafted with a new, modernized formula.
I think this is a totally reasonable $20 game. A bit pricey maybe but still fair.
for someone who already played the gen 4 games, this remake didn't change enough things to justify buying the game "again". I feel like the previous 3 remakes did a lot more. especially the gen 2 and 3 remakes.
I *was* going to get brilliant diamond when it came out, but get distracted by SMT V. No regrets. I'll just wait till x-mas for the remakes.
I’ve heard that game is good but never played a SMT game
I am enjoying the walk through of one creators...
I'd recommend just sticking with SMT V.
SMT V is a good distraction
SMTV has been an absolute blast and a fantastic challenge
There's a scene that keeps playing in my head whenever I imagine the meeting for these games. It's obviously, only in my head, but I'd say it's likely TPC: Ok, ILCA, can you remake Diamond and Pearl in time for november 2021? ILCA: November 2021? Isn't that cutting it too close? TPC: Great, good luck, that's the deadline
Fuck TPCi really
I still don't like the chibi style myself, but outside of that they're fine. Platinum is still and most likely always will be the way to go when it comes to Sinnoh though, at least for me.
these aren't good games its literally a remaster of the worst pokemon game
Day 57 of asking why they didn’t remake Platinum which is the definitive game of the region.
Day 57 of reminding everyone that they didn't remake Emerald either so chill
Or at least incorporate some of platinum into bdsp like they did with crystal for hg and ss
I understand sticking more to DP, but they should've incorporated more aspects from Platinum. Like the Pokédex.
Remember 1 word: profit.
@@svenbtbdifference is emerald isn’t significantly better then ruby or sapphire the same way platinum is compared to diamond and pearl
There's absolutely no way people think this game had the worst music in the series. Literally NO WAY.
I'd say the best are generations 3 and 4
I'm enjoying these games. My only problems are the Chibi's are a little weird to look at zoomed in close in cutscenes. My second is shiny hunting can take a little while longer because of the 10 second black screen that shows up before the beginning credits.
2D chibi ≠ 3D chibi I actually dont understand how people can defend this. Chibi in drawing/sprite will never translate to 3D models. They always look fugly, no matter how good the person model it Also doesnt help that the game's general looks like a cheap plastic that crumbles on your hands
You're right, That's the one thing I hate the most about BDSP, the graphics. It just looks like a mobile game, it looks ass and it screams of laziness.
Exactly! The original sprites were made as chibis because there were data constraints. There is absolutely no excuse not to make BDSP look like the Let's Go games and SwSh. No excuse at all
I feel like the 3D chibi was made to reduce the amount of animation they needed to perform, since the pokemon who already have existing walking animations aren't chibi and are just scaled down weird. That's probably not the actual case but it's how it comes off to me
IMO the most egregious thing with the Pokédex was the fact that some evolution items to evolve gligar, dusclops and Rhydon were locked to postgame and therefore couldn’t be used on a playthrough team
So on the topic of exp share I recently played a romhack that solved the exp share issue without destroying it Their solution was to have not only a button to turn it off but ALSO a exp cap button that caps to the current gym level so you can utilize the exp but not out level the current level of challenge. It was super refreshing and useful tbh! Hopefully something like that is implemented in the future
which romhack was that?
@@58209 Pokemon unbound.
@@LainWithSweetTea thank you
I belive x and y has an item called the exp all witch you couldn't turn on and off ... somthing like that would be nice
@@HackerMan1010 no x and y has the exp share as a key item that can be turned on and off
I surprisingly disagreed with many of your points, such as the team wide EXP share.
The movement issue is simple. The maps are a 1:1 of the old games. The old games maps were designed around 4 directional movement. Adding Omnidirectional movement makes it much easier to run into this games invisible walls. That’s why there is a glitch where you can skip past most of the 7th gym leaders puzzle
One reason DPP (well, Platinum) was so good was in contrast to gen 3. That being said, some of the features like the Underground and the Poketch were innovations for improved features for the DS. I wish they had invented some features that were special to the Switch.
Poketch was made for you have to bottom screen out in the overworld at all times because the top screen is all that is needed for you to see the game.
$80 + tax in Canada. Not worth for a remake.
When I played this game I realized how long it had been since I’d played diamond and pearl. I’ve only played platinum for the last 10+ years so It was refreshing not remembering the differences between the two
The elite 4 wad really solid, i went in blind and actually lost to cynthia because of the ice berry BUT for almost the entire game i was overleveled by 10 to 15 lvls with every mon and i couldnt use some of my mons much because they got disproportionately more exp. I didnt use Grotle at all becuse it was 2 lvls above the rest of my team until it was lvl 38 or so. Fuck that shit and everybody who thought forced exp share is a good idea
I don’t think the problem is forced exp share I think it’s just that they didn’t balance the game with it in mind. Let’s be honest here, grinding isn’t hard or rewarding. It’s just running around and spamming “A” a bunch of time until you reach a number. Sword and shield had a good exp share balance but they also included exp shards thingy that allowed people to get to level 100 in like an hour.
nobody was asking for an identical remake of diamond and pearl, they were asking for an enhancement like oras. of course people are disappointed.
That is NOT true. Oras is a bad remake, a lot of people agree, they don’t want another ORAS. What do they want, they never can say lmfao
@@megaspacewaffles i have heard ALMOST nobody say the ORAS were bad remakes..... and the ones that i have heard that from were mostly people who didn't play the originals when they came out and only started playing them due to Pokemon youtubers talking about how emerald is the best game to nuzlocke.
BDSP is a good game if you have never touched Platinum. It hits that sweet spot where it's significantly better than DP, but a good bit worse than Platinum.
Definitely better than platinum. Doesn’t have that extremely slow battle engine the Gen 4 games have and has many quality of life features that put it above imo
@@nathanwalker6284 Yeah, but the game progression is ass and the dex is just bad. The post game features are also extremely lacking. There are also a shit ton of small issues that makes it more problematic than it needs to be. I still stand by my words. If you want to play Sinnoh, play Platinum.
Well, I would not say it’s significantly better than DP, because honestly the only thing they did is improve the graphics, BDSP barely have any new contents.
I demand compensation for my keyboard getting splattered with my drink when you brought up the ILCA bit at the start lol
"Removing tedious grinding does not make a game more or less challenging because grinding is neither hard nor fun." A truth bomb that I 100% approve of being dropped!
It's absolutely correct. And 100% reframing issue to downplay the argument from the other side. A toggle. That's what people want. It's been done before, it can be done again. Extremely simple, everybody's happy. No strawmen necessary.
While I agree, the way its done in BDSP is garbage. I've seen several people get way too overleveled far too quickly in playthroughs because the levels aren't scaled to account for this new xp share. Like one youtuber I watched ended up battling Barry who had a starly, with a Torterra 10 levels higher, when all he did was battle trainers. He ended up skipping a lot of the game with a glitch and got to volkner where he was only 3 levels under volkner, even though it was the *6th* gym he challenged. He skipped a huge chunk of the game and team galactic and in general. Only the elite four and champion are actually scaled up. But its FAR too much compared to the rest of the game. Its a huge sudden difficulty spike you don't see coming. Sure, shared xp shares are great. But you need to scale things to match it if its forced upon you, otherwise its just way too overkill being maybe 10 levels higher.
I personally haven’t enjoyed a Pokémon game this much since gen 5 tbh. The enjoyment I’m getting did catch me off guard tho because I thought I wasn’t going to like them much
I was expecting a remake like alpha sapphire and omega ruby. I was disappointed
Honestly, it just feels lacking to me. No palmer theme it’s Cynthia’s one, not any cosmetic changes for the team galaxy building, no episode platinum, strange order of the gym (unlike platinum), no snow in twinleaf, not enough encounter with cyrus and cynthia (unlike platinum), not any conclusion for the team galaxy story, etc. In short : lacking
Half of the issues you have with the remake of a game is that it's not a different game? "Yeah the remake of Link to the Past was aight, I just can't believe they didn't include the train from Spirit Tracks or the Minish Cap at all"
@@Penquins910 your comparison doesn’t work, zelda Spirit tracks and ALTTP are two different games. Platinum is an upgrade to pearl and diamond, not a complete new game. Geez, even oras has more encounter with steven stones, redesign or all the characters and magma/aqua hideout, new places, add a delta episode for the lack of a pokemon emeraud and plus the story was rework to make more sens than the original rs. Bdsp has none of that, that’s why it feels lacking.
@@Penquins910 Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver were remakes of Pokemon Crystal - but with the pokemon difference that were found in Gold/Silver. There literally is a precedent in Pokemon to use the superior 3rd version as a basis for the remakes. BDSP don't have an excuse here. Not to mention, Pokemon Platinum isn't a "different game", its the definitive edition of the same game with all of the changes serving the purpose of fixing the many flaws that plagued the original Diamond and Pearl. If you're not remaking Platinum, you are outright making design choices that make the game worse.
@@Absolute_Zero7 Out of the 4 remakes out now, HGSS were the only games to remake the third game, not counting the let's go games (remakes/spinoffs of yellow). It's not as big of a precedent as you might think. But Platinum and Emerald both deserved the HGSS treatment so you are right there.
I’m only at 5:30 but OMG YES. Getting past two objects is so frigging frustrating. And then you get hunted down by a ‘mon in the Grand Underground.
I’ve been playing shining pearl and so far I’m having a really good time. I know everyone keeps saying it but the art style really did grow on me, even though I wasn’t a fan of it at first.
my biggest gripe is the zoom-ins when a trainer sees you then the awkward reset to the normal camera right before the battle starts
Statues aren't for just decorating your base they make certain types of pokemon more likely to appear
It's not worth 60$... If you get them for 40 or so it's a good pick up. If not just play the originals. They look so much better and are better in my opinion.
Good point. Gen 4 was by far my least favorite gen so I was never too hyped for the remakes. Granted I would be happy to be proven wrong but from what I'm hearing from friends and family it mostly amounts to "it's OK" so I might pick it up down the line if I find it on sale.
@@RooftopRose079 I bought Brilliant diamond on release just because I am a Pokemon Fanatic. Been playing since Red. (Born in 1993) but yeah it really is "just ok". If you like Pokemon you'll like them but its just so bare bones. Considering Pokemon used to be 40$ I see no reason to pay more for literally the same game. I will wait for pearl to go on sale like I've been waiting for shield to go on sale again.
@@feartheoldblood7222 Cool. 93 kid myself and Red was my first game. Crystal is my favorite though. And I can agree there. I’ll wait until BD is on sale. $60 just seems ridiculous for the same game especially when I still have my original pearl version.
Platinum is better to be honest if you don’t care too much about graphics and don’t need any of online stuff like battling or GTS since It’s not available anymore.
Gulpin can be found in the great marsh in the post game! You can use it to become the contest master once more!
They focused so much on making the remakes “faithful” that they failed to innovate them at all
I encountered a bug while playing where my Pokemon were called something else. My Luxio (named Nala) was evolving and the game said 'Blix is evolving' Floatzel (named Wily) was evolving and the game said 'Misty is evolving' I hated the level scaling in this game. Trainers on the routes were a solid 10 levels behind me from after I beat Maylene but my levels for the gym leaders was only slightly higher. I didn't see the challenge or benefit to battling some of the lower level trainers since they weren't worth much. Drifloon was a problem for me. The only trainer encounter is in the Hearthome gym. So long as you aren't an idiot, you can solve the maths questions and get through to Fantina. If you don't beat those gym trainers, you are locked out of the post game until the following Friday. That was especially painful since I beat the game on the Sunday after release and without screwing with the game clock, I would've had to wait another 5 days before getting the national dex. Clunky is the game, not just the controls. The shiny charm only affecting breeding hurts me too. Why not have it affect all the other encounters?
didn't even mention the awful pokemon friendship mechanic that essentially turns every battle into baby mode. your pokemon basically has a 50% chance of having a built in sturdy ability and can survive any attack, can increase your crit chance, can just decide to avoid 100% accuracy moves and can just decide to not have a status effect anymore like being burned. absolutely awful in every way and you can't turn it off.
Oooogaa booogaa haunted pokemon copy the names of the lost souls are still in the game ooooooo
OMG MY RALTS GLITCHED TODAY, WHILE EVOLVING INTO A KIRLIA. IT SAID _____ is evolving, it said something in Japanese but I don’t remember what it said or what it meant. It’s so obvious these games are full of bugs. Look at MunchingOranges video of when he explores Iron Island and Riley’s character completely disappears. The cut scene where he gives you Riolu he literally is gone.
"There aren't 30 minute tutorials in this game" I always see how fans completely ignore how this game forces you through tutorials as well.
nostalgia blindness at its finest.
It does, and most fans aren't really blind to it, however compared to the newer games its quite minimal. To say that the Tutorials in DPP are anywhere close to resembling say Sun and Moon or Sword and Shield is misleading.
@@Absolute_Zero7 It's misleading to say Sun/Moon or Sword/Shield had 30 minute tutorials too. Honestly, the issue is many people are saying a lot of dialogue is a tutorial when really it's just part of the story.
@@EvyDevy Let’s be honest here, sun and moon’s first island was a tutorial. It isn’t until you past the beach area that the tutorial finally stops and you can just do normal things.
@@changyang1498 Normal things? As in the same thing you're doing throughout the game already? By that logic, everything up past the 2nd gym in gen 4 would be a tutorial since you have to learn the underground, HMs, honey trees, flowers, etc. Honestly, the first area lets you do lots of things already and heck, there are even a few side quests. When you stop learning things and do the same thing you've already done, it's suddenly not a tutorial anymore? I mean I understand you don't feel as "free" in gen 7 as other gens but I wouldn't say the entire island in it's self is a whole tutorial. There are also lots of places to explore there once you get surf.
not sure why they didn't keep the TR/TM split but I assume they didn't use multi use TMs because the gems you dig up in the underground are mainly used to buy TMs so if you make TMs reuseably the underground would either be very irrelevant very soon, or an infinite grind fest because they'd need to up the prices for the TMs if you only ever needed one of each
I think the only plus side to it was... I didn't need to use bidoof as an HM slave and being able to change up the team... as a little kid I didn't understand how stats and the move pools worked so my team either sucked or it was the typical staraptor, lucario, etc. But this time around I tried out a different team. Jynx surprised me the most, being able to get the ice type pretty early and slaying the crap out of the gyms and team galactic with that sp attack.
I have also been having movement issues. Not just getting stuck on corners or falling off of ledges, but in menus too. I keep flipping to other tabs while trying to scroll, and I accidentally killed my rivals pokemon while doing a double battle with him in the story while trying to hit my opponents pokemon
They're great. The only things I'm upset at are the 32 underground NPCs needed for spiritomb because they're distributed in 28 areas and there's not much way to know which 4 have two NPCs that spawn
Depends on everyone's expectations and preferences I myself hated the chibi style at first but grew to like it (the cutscenes still look awkward) it's like that one remake zelda got
Don't compare it with the link's awakening remake , the remake is the definitive way to play the original game, but bdsp for me is just kinda just a graphic remaster
@@east_0154 I'd say it was one graphically
@@east_0154 bdsp is also the definitive version, sorry to burst your bubble
@@Mqstodon it really isnt
@@Mqstodon If you want to experience Sinnoh, the definitive edition is Platinum, end of story. By being a "faithful remake" of DP, BDSP has acquired all of the flaws that plagued the original DP such as the inferior story, the worse level of detail, and the worse trainer and boss design. I still wouldn't recommend it to anyone wanting to experience Sinnoh for the first time.
I agree that the movement is a little clunky I've been using the d-pad and pressing B to run in tight spaces it makes it much easier navigate without getting caught up on a wall
the remakes are filled with some things having invisible walls which makes you get stuck on them basically they have janky collision boxes
These games are very good and fun to play for sure. But I don't agree that it's better than Platinum.
Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl only get worse the more you look into it. There's so much evidence to how rushed the game was and how many corners were cut.
I like it but it's hard to get through knowing all the platinum stuff is missing.
I started playing this for the first time last night and I actually really like it. My platinum is in Japanese so I wanted to get this so I could actually read the dialogue
3:56 From my experience the remake still has some slight screen tearing. They really were faithful lol
Im sad there's no Looker Postgame from Platinum. I love sidequest/story types of Postgame since those give something to do if still filling out Dex
that was such a smooth transition to the sponsor
Fun fact: My right bumper button wasn't working so I couldn't use defog and walked through the area without it. I have since bought a controller to remedy the issue going forward, but it was possible if not extremely frustrating.
All I know is now the Black & White fandom must rise and say: “Black and White remakes when?”
These games are absolutely pathetic. Anyone who things these REMASTERS are as good as other REMAKES need to go replay ORAS and HGSS to learn what a remake really is. Everyone is enjoying because they're the exact same game we played years ago in gen 4 obviously you're gonna like the exact same game you already like regardless of if there are multiple downgrades and a $20 price increase. But instead of just enjoying the game they could've been actually remakes and we could've loved them.
Thanks for sharing; you can actually get Swalot in Brilliant Diamond(and Shining Pearl too I believe) via daily catching a Gulpin at Pastoria Marsh Post Game I believe
Glad to see your content has evolved
Granted this was an issue from the old games, so not exactly an issue with BDSP themselves, but it was certainly one that could have been fixed for these newer games - certain Pokemon are either only obtainable extremely late in the game, or outright impossible to get until the postgame or National Dex are unlocked. So certain Pokemon physically can't be used on a playthrough team whatsoever unless you happen to know someone who can trade it to you, and not everyone is going to be that lucky. You wanna use a Yanmega on your playthrough team? You're completely out of luck, you need the National Dex to find Yanma at all. You wanna use a Gliscor on your playthrough team? You're stuck with Gligar til the postgame.
But that’s just how Pokémon is though. It’s always been like that in every single game. There’s always multiple Pokémon that you can’t get until after the elite 4 and are not usable for a play through at all. That’s a normal thing
@@tradeka4206 but usually those pokemon are pseudo legendary or legendaries. not run of the mill gliscor or yanma......
I remember when I was catching one of the Regi, my Luxray survived 3 times with only 1 hp just because of Luxray love me 🤣🤣🤣
I think the main reason the post-game of Pokemon is felt as mandatory is because it's the only truly immersive side-content in most of them. Pokemon almost never has side-quests (and when it does they're by-and-large brief fetch-quests), so the post-game is the only real way to enjoy a mainline Pokemon game outside of the increasingly stale "eight gyms, evil team, elite four, champion fight" routine. Though that might just be how I feel about it.
Hey, thanks for these videos. Every video feels like I am sitting with an old friend and just vibing. I adore the "Nintendid" series, I absolutely would pop in a live stream if I saw you live on YT :D Personally I am not a fan of twitch at all
Weirdly the best part of BDSP seems to be the glitches especially copying Pokemon & turning non-shinies to shinies. Too bad Platinum wasn't the one remade much like HG/SS was a remade Crystal
I wish I could get a refund. Oh well, it’s only $60, but they aren’t very fun. Edit: The “said pokemon avoided the attack,” is just stupid. Oh hey, I have a Milotic with a flame orb and marvel scale. Nah, the Milotic just wants to cure itself of the burn, negating the ability. The RE2 remake was incredible. True to its source, but enough innovation to play as an entirely new game
Im loving the visual glitches. My drapions head keeps getting stuck in the stairs when going up 😅 I'm enjoying the game and I'm glad you did too
Lmao the skillshare sponsor break was sooo smooth
people care about platinum teams because flint's dp team is meant to be fire based and has a steelix. because dp only has 2 fire types in its regional dex. also gulpin and swalot are in the game, they are post national dex though and i believe random through the trophy garden. The one thing I would say elevates this above platinum is that all key trainers are now EV trained, meaning even if their levels are relatively low in places they still have the core stats to try to turn things around. Its very noticeable in the elite four's platinum and final teams you can unlock, where you can be like 20 levels higher than them and still be slower.
Short answer: yes. But pokemon fans are always blinded by nostalgia,so they always follow up that with "bUt I hAd FuN".
I mean isn't the point of playing video games to have fun?
@@lazyhippie6139 having fun with a game this bad? If you take away the nostalgia,there isn't much left to have fun with pokemon at this point.
@@jvictor001 I actually haven't played the games yet, but I'm looking forward to it. The only thing that really kills it for me is the mandatory Exp Share (I hated that in SwSh and Let's Go). They buffed the teams in the Elite 4, so that's definitely an improvement imo. It's your opinion that the games are bad and that's okay. From what I've seen, I don't think they're the greatest Pokémon games ever or anything, but they at least look enjoyable. Life is stressful... if someone finds joy out of these games, who cares? Let people enjoy things. I really didn't like Sun and Moon and didn't find them fun, but many people do enjoy them. It's just not for me. BDSP isn't for you and that's cool.
@@lazyhippie6139 I wouldn't worry about the exp share too much. It's pretty balance overall to the progression. You'll only really end up overlevelled if you grind wild pokemon.
I only encountered one glitch so far. On my way to the town with the 7th gym when I was running under one of the bridges my character randomly teleported to the top of it. I was very confused but it only happened the one time and I wasn’t able to replicate it again.
Thanks for the review. Made me feel nostalgic since Pokemon Diamond was my first pokemon game (and I would still have it if my friend didn't kill my game back then), but I felt a bit too tired to play this game and train up a team again, sigh.
I love it and can’t get enough of it! The art style takes me back to the old days and it looks beautiful!
How people might feel about this games depend on their expectations and previous playing experience. People that haven't played gen 4, or haven't played in a while are probably going to like this a lot. People that are veterans and are looking for a different pokemon experience aren't going to enjoy this, because aside from the modern gens mechanics and the grand underground there isn't anything else new about the remakes. For that camp, it's best to wait for Legend of Arceus, which seems to be far more different than tthe remakes.
Thank you!! I’ve missed actual fair critique of Pokémon lately. Good video.
That add-in of Slash did make me laugh 😂
Honestly, I think I'll go back to Sword once I run through the Brilliant Diamond once and then run through Shining Pearl with a custom team.
This is legit so much better of a review than most media outlets. I dont mean in the way the score would work out, I mean in the way the video presented the game as "how good is this?" I feel like every game news outlet has to have a "take" to get views, but this video sums everything up succinctly in a way other people/places wouldn't. Plus the outline of certain glitches and the undergeound were perfect. Well and the Slash meme was perfect...
At the end of the day, the reason why people are disappointed is because they expected Platinum content and quality of life improvements. ORAS was more like Emerald. HGSS were like Crystal. FRLG had all the Gen 1 content and more. The definitive version of Sinnoh is still platinum