Aragorn vs Sauron unreleased scene (better quality) - edited

makes total sense though. in moria it took aragorn, legolas, gimli, gandalf and 2 hobbits to take down an unarmoured troll in a fairly long fight.

​@@leonidasbrixbrotz1271was going to say the same

@@leonidasbrixbrotz1271 And that was a cave troll, which is quite smaller than the trolls from Mordor (whatever they're called).

@@Boris_V Olog-hai

@@Boris_VActually I did learn that Olog-hai are smaller… doesn’t exactly matter though when they’re covered head-to-toe in steel

@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked That's the whole point of destroying the ring--to prevent his return. Having Aragorn square off in a duel with Sauron in physical form cheapens those stakes and, more importantly, it diminishes the value of the story's subtext. The subtext is that Frodo and Sam, two little hobbits of no esteemed station or abilities, are the most important characters in the entire world in this moment. Aragorn, who would be a great king and warrior, is not here to fight the main villain as they are. His only desire was to give them a fighting chance with his life if necessary. It is a moment of role reversal, and intentionally defies the folktale trope. This is the way power is unmade, not with a cliché swordfight with the bad guy but through humanity, brotherhood and humility.

@@michaelweir9666 I agree, I also think that to give Sauron a physical form diminishes his threat and his presence. It is much more interesting if he is this vague spirit and something which you don't fully understand.

@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked Are you daft? Go watch Marvel movies - I think they're more suited to you.

Well said this would have dampened the moment

@@Andjac2010 I dunno. Having that physical presence (body) and actually being able to kick your ass wouldn't have diminished him IMO.

Bean would have been better. Much better.

The casting for these movies is everything that Amazon's Rings of Power is not.

@@nagoranerides3150 I doubt Rowan Atkinson will agree that Mr. Bean is suited for the role of Aragorn

@@johnmcgill3603 :D

Heard Nicolas Cage was asked to do the role

❤❤ Wow I never noticed that.

Would have. "Would of" doesn't make any sense.

He also promised the white city would not fall and the world of men was not over, as Boromir was dying. He equally kept that promise 🙂

Jerk alert ​@@VikingKong.

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You like hairy boys,yes?

And it’s always funny when the Men run past them. If the film had a lighter tone, I think it would’ve been funny to have a shot of them being swallowed up by the group, and them getting all annoyed.

I always thought the Frodo was a bitch.

Tough li’l ankle biters

Because they were one of the few that knew Frodo :)

Wow dude, makin me feel old over here.

Some movies are timeless

More than the speech itself, the soft "For Frodo" gets me every time. Such a powerful scene!

Aragorns speech gives my chills, Theodins speech brings me damn close to tears.

I see in your eye the same fear that would take the heart of me

Stupid sexy Sauron!

You mean Annatar.

@@Randomdude89640that’s the name of his fair form

@@RangerHouston Mairon is the original one and i suppose it comes with a fair form.

Problem is that Sauron fair form was obliterated when Eru Illuvatar kick his ass when He destroyed Numenor.

That line didn't make much sense to begin with. Many kings fought their own battles and some fell on the battlefield.

@@leone.6190 My thoughts exactly.

@@leone.6190 Dude come on, it makes sense in the context of that scene and especially relatable in modern times. Not everything is historically accurate

Many pre-modern rulers went in the battlefield. They at the least gave commands, and at the most actually got their sword bloody by fighting personally, that's pre-1700s. After 1700s the exceptions are Charles XII, Frederick, Napoleon, and a few others I don't remember.

@@leone.6190 Indeed. And its a quote from troy.

And to think they never would have joined the adventure if they weren’t stealing vegetables from an angry farmer

Only "Wakanda forever" plays in my stupid head every time that scene comes.

YES! It’s my favorite shot in any film! For twenty years, whenever I see it tell someone how much I love it. What a journey for those two - from nights at the The Green Dragon and stealing vegetables to charging into battle (and as far as they know: their deaths). In the books, they go on to lead the Battle of the Shire and when their lives are finally over, they are laid to rest on either side of Aragorn. The films may not include that, but it includes that shot of them running into battle and that’s pretty damn close!

Not only that, but they were the first to charge in after Aragorn, not Gandalf, not Gimli or Legolas, nobody. They charged in because the love they had for their friend, and the bravery and courage they had gained along the way.

Drives me to tears every time, I bet they were scared shitless too compared to the other experienced warriors, yet they were right there, in the front, running towards what looked like their death. Real love and Friendship there

And I love when he says, "for Frodo", because it's almost like Sauron tried to tempt him one last time and Aragorn turns and reminds everyone exactly why they're there in the first place - to give Frodo his chance. It's just perfect.

To add further depth to the situation, he wasn't entirely sure Frodo was actually alive.

Aragon may believe that Frodo has already been slain by Sauron. There is another deleted scene where a Sauron lieutenant, The Mouth of Sauron, shows Aragon and Gandalf some items that were taken from Frodo in the Tower on the Fronteir, insinuating that he is dead. So this may be a call to avenge Frodo

❤❤️YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!😊

There actually is one! One that not only facerd danger, but actually died painfully to destroy evil, and give us all small and feeble creatures a chance to live in hope, true hope. Know who im talking about? Aragorn is actually based on him!

Very well stated, and very true!

Which is true in the real world as well sadly, because most people fear death too much to sacrifice themselves for a positive change in the world

@@Monyato Also, not organised enough. You don’t die for your cause, you make the enemy die for his. Much better, all around.

@@hoodatdondar2664 yes but the best way to do that is by first accepting that you are probably not going to return. It has been proven numerous times in history that fearless men always beat fearful men this is called morale.

The danger there is when the evil manipulates two good groups to fight each other, each thinking the other evil.

His pressence was menacing, but seeing him in action would have been cool too. Pretty sure PJ said he didn't want the focus to detract from the hobbits, cause it would make Aragorn seem like the main character lol.

Next time Sauron should be a legendary ghoulish Princess from Druidia ✋ 👐

@@kassaken6521 I thought I wanted to see it, but when I heard his reasoning for cutting it cos it distracted from Frodo and the Ring, I tend to agree with him and think it was for the best

Sauron was a spirit that assumed the form of an elf. When I saw the movies for the first time I did not expect this hunkering being.

@@kassaken6521 wich in a way he is, imagine going for a imensurable fight knowing youll lose and getting out alive true main charachter there, if he had a camera he would be unstopable

More than that! Most of the trilogy was shot between 1999 and 2000, I think.

Agreed. Just watched the original trilogy this weekend, and it has held up amazingly well. I guess when you use CGI when you need to and make an actual effort on makeup, costume and sets, it withstands time better than CGI that looks more and more obvious as technology advances.

"Thank you, prime ministre, for making me feel so old..." THE QUEEN, Elizabeth

Even with slight flaws for nowadays standards this movies are majestic and they have a soul, the „you bow to no one“ scene is so pure, nowadays movie makers seem to care more for the woke parts and „diversity“ than for feelings and emotions. I believe that the best movies are already done and the best songs already sung

Greatness has nothing to do with time, the Iliad will be great always for instance.

Okay.

Dune.

I am sorry to hear that. Fortunately not all of us have succumbed to pessimism yet.

I thought he was wielding Narya. Helps to resist domination.

I know. But it's the movie. The movie doesn't even have to match the book by 50%. This scene was epic and very disturbing. It also shows Sauron like a character more than any other scene.

Sauron had a physical body at the time. The movie is wrong.

@@accelerationquanta5816 I don't recall reading that in the book. Are you just trolling?

@@gracefuldice1956 It’s mentioned both in the book briefly and directly in Tolkien’s letters. Gollum actually MET him. “It was Isildur who cut off the finger of the Enemy.’ ‘Yes, He has only four on the Black Hand, but they are enough,’ said Gollum shuddering.” -Book “It was because of this pre-occupation with the Children of God that the spirits so often took the form and likeness of the Children, especially after their appearance. It was thus that Sauron appeared in this shape. It is mythologically supposed that when this shape was 'real', that is a physical actuality in the physical world and not a vision transferred from mind to mind, it took some time to build up. It was then destructible like other physical organisms. But that of course did not destroy the spirit, nor dismiss it from the world to which it was bound until the end. After the battle with Gil-galad and Elendil [at the end of the War of the Last Alliance, when Sauron lost the One Ring], Sauron took a long while to re-build, longer than he had done after the Downfall of Númenor (I suppose because each building-up used up some of the inherent energy of the spirit, which might be called the 'will' or the effective link between the indestructible mind and being and the realization of its imagination). The impossibility of re-building after the destruction of the Ring, is sufficiently clear 'mythologically' in the present book.” -Tolkien’s letters

@@accelerationquanta5816 the letter only establishes the mechanism by which Sauron retakes physical form, not when or if in the book he takes it. What chapter is that quotation in. I would like to check on that, but quite clearly Sauron makes no physical appearance at the end of a Tolkien’s story-much less one of combat. The description of Sauron’s recognition of the imperilment of the Ring is artfully completely of the mind.

Yes all true glad they didn't do it. Did add more weight to the for frodo line tho since they weren't sure if he was alive and aragorn would've known he was sacrificing himself knowing he'd not be able to defeat sauron himself. Granted the whole battle of the morannen itself was a sacrifice but u know thought it was kinda cool.

plus for a moment you see Saurons old form here which he had lost since the Fall of Numenor. I agree I am glad they didn't go for it.

what? youre comment makes no sense,he already took physical form yet he couldnt? if he couldnt then he didnt take physical form.

counter point ...it looks cool...

@@Marcustheseer He did in the books. He couldn't in the third movie because the prior movies had already established that he couldn't.

Also what he says to him at Amon Hen/Argonath. “I would have gone with you to the end, into the very fires of Mordor”

Agreed. Also... is he supposed to have a body?

@@Turagrong tbh I always thought he couldn´t physically appear again without the ring

@@Turagrong there was s time where he had a body. In reality sauron is supposed to be INSIDE the eye tower, casting his will (the eye) over the people of the middle earth. He probably has a palantiri stone

@@sacarymoviesamu He definitely has at least one. It's pretty explicitly shown in this movie.

@@Turagrong In the books he does actually have a physical form. He's present to scare the absolute sh*t out of Gollum when he's tortured. But it doesn't make any sense whatsoever that he would stroll out onto the battlefield; he's a deceiver and a puppet-master, hugely diminished in power without the Ring.

Right after that, when everyone is kneeling and only the four hobbits are standing, I always want Pippin to say “So that’s what the tops of their heads look like!”

@@jlmww LOL

always brings tears to my eyes

Yep. That scene gives me chills. Perfection

Hell yes! My feelings exactly!!

Part of the movie, things get complicated in fight scenes

Having him appear briefly like that would have been cool.

That would've been sick as hell

Vision, very cool. Physical fighting? Lame.

​@@Morgyborgyblobdepends. It should have been the whole fellowship fighting him to just keep the weakened sauron individually at a standstill, while the whole orc army was descending on them

Remember Gandalf gently waving frodos mithril shirt infront of Aragon to remind him of why he is there.

I also liked the idead that he is not powerful enough to be physically present without the ring, just a magic force. He has to command his creatures to do the job for him. If he would be present and and defeat aragorn, it is questionable why he needs the ring. Then the ring would just be like a horcrux for him.

Also, the scene would detract from Frodo and Sam being the ones that destroyed Sauron. In the drawn scene, they seem to show Aragon throwing a sword into Sauron's chest, and then Sauron exploding.

actually that could been another lead of history where frudo lost the ring while ago and fellowship didn't realize it so when door opens and turns out sauron is there and now fellowsihp doing their last stand and most likely dying

He never appeared in the book. They stuck to the storyline.

@@dog-thebackwardgod he did have a physical form he used in the book but he never left his tower golem talks of him torturing him in barad dur

Wow, I never noticed that! I didn't really have pause and capture ideas when I was younger. I always thought that Gandalf was helping to instill some sort of mental fortitude with a spell to combat the voice of Sauron's influence. Now that I see there were ACTUAL things he lifted up, not even using magic, this makes that two second appearance act even more epic!

That English legit messed up my brain. Can you fix it because I don't understand what you said in the first sentence. " Gandslfs wave" what wave? There's no wave. Wave is in the ocean. Don't you mean veil? But then again, veil has nothing to do with this. Where do you see him putting up his hands, encouraging others? I've seen this movie 3000 times, watch it at least 3x a year ( extended only) but don't remember a moment gandalf doing anything of the sort.

@@captainp.2721 2:15

@@captainp.2721 Are you not a native English speaker? Watch the clip at the time stamp provided.

@@captainp.2721 in this video particularly at 2:14. Damn bro you seem legit mad af right now. Lmao its okay if you didn't notice it calm down.

I never got why frodo is allowed to go there anyway. He failed. He was corrupted by the ring and didn't destroyed it. Gollum accidentally did by fighting frodo. Sam is the only one that decided actively against the ring (he only had it a few hours I know... But still)

It was not all about destroying, he carried that burden all the way, had some hard time ofc. Frodo was the ring bearer. But even for a short time, Sam also carried the ring, thats why Sam also gone to undying lands after his wife passed away.

People in Middle Earth always seem their strongest when they're at their most dimunitive.

Darkest before dawn. The heroes always overcome the odds. That’s what makes great stories.

No, they knew they were marching to their death... It was just a diversion after all... And by "they", I mean the remaining members of the Fellowship, no idea if the foot-folk knew what was going on...

Also notice how, when the ring is destroyed and the corrupted land of Mordor is collapsing, more of the host survive and flee than were left of Aragorns army... Why do we not see the aftermath or hear mention of that?

@@Kholdaimon Yeah they knew. In the books they first lay claim to Minas Morgul before going north. Where Aragorn tells those that dared not go to the Black Gate to hold Cair Andros for as long as they could

I’m throwing a spanner in the works here lol. Aragorn’s speech was up there and amazing but Theoden’s speech before the ride was the best piece of cinema I’ve ever seen lol 👍🏻

@@elliottwilford6457 I agree theodens is the most moving

Listen, the entire time I watched Aragons speech, I was waiting for him to say "They may take our lives but they'll never take our freedom ". I loved the movie but the speech was so cheesy lol

Also, people always downplay how awesome the next scene is, when they charge at the armies of Mordor. The king is the first one to do so, and it looks like he was ready to go alone if need be. He goes and doesn't look back, like he's expecting those to be his final moments. Then, the first ones to follow his charge are Merry and Pippin, who are supposed to be hopeless in battle, but they go nonetheless. I feel like most people don't appreciate this scene as much as it deserves. It's masterfully done. But yeah, Theoden's speech is the GOAT.

@@959tolis626 the way they filmed that scene can’t be ignored either because it made you feel like all hope had gone and if your going to die you may as well die fighting!! 100% agree with you.

The film-Aragorn is a sissy! Peter Jackson should be fined $1000000 for such a blasfemous malinterpretation of Tolkien's books.

He was second choice though and the first choice actor got totally screwed over

@@Henbot Yes, but Wiggo Mortensen is just the actor doing Peter Jackson's scenes. I suspect Peter Jackson thought that he should do another King-Kong. So then Aragorn became a sissy.

Aragorn should have been a black woman. Then it would be perfection.

@@klavier285 You're right of course.

I mean to be fair he didn't really have much choice with how close the ring was to souron now the world literally relyed on Aragon and the others to district souron or else evil would have won it would have taken no time for one of the fell beasts and a witch king to fly up the mountain land right in front of the entrance kick Sam in the head sending him flying off the mountain while just casually taking the ring from frodo like it was nothing If souron had see the hobbits it would have been game over for everyone real fast with no B's let's stop and have a half an hour dialog before I kill you like most films do

At this point in the movie didn't they think Frodo was dead because of the mouth of Sauron?

I think he did choose to fight for Frodo because he wanted to encourage the ppls Will to fight once more... and even more so because he knew that Pippin and Merry would charge forward with him first. Well... maybe more like he wanted that to happen so ppl would see how the 2 small Hobbits charge into the Fight first. Everyone else was just behind them of corse and even over took them. But the Initial Thought was to Spread the Spark of Hope to everyone. This is what i feel like was his Intenion behind it. Maybe he also did feel like he (and Sam) still alive at that Point. Its a strong Moment either Way.

All while not even knowing if his sacrifice would be in vain or not. He had no idea where Frodo was at this point the movie. The hobbits could’ve already been dead.

Yeah this would have been Epic ending

just a fyi, it actually started thousands of years ago when Sauron disguised as a Lord of Gifts teached the elves to forge rings of power... millions of elves have died long before isildur ever got the chance to destroy it, so technically isildur never started anything, he just failed to destroy it. which btw the elves can blame on him as much as they want, at least isildur temporarily killed Sauron which is more than could be said about the millions of elves before.

@@z1mt0n1x2 Well sure, but by the time the 3rd age rolled around, the elves were pretty much out of the fight by then and didn't have much manpower (elfpower?) to spare. The scene of the elves from Rivendell assisting in the battle at Helm's Deep actually never happened in the novel. It was just the Rohirrim. fighting off Saruman's forces. The War against Sauron was always men's to finish, primarily because of Isildur's actions. The elves did their part and it cost them losses so great that they never recovered, so it's easy to see how keeping the Ring after sacrificing so much could be seen as a grave insult, as if all their losses meant nothing in the end.

@@LAZERAK47V2 What does this have to do with the fact that it wasnt Isildur that started it? What started it was Sauron and the foolery of his rings thousands of ears prior, it never was Aragon's beef to finish. Helping to have the ring destroyed was Gandalf's making, he's the one that plotted the path for Aragon's return to the throne.

I don't think its accurate to say that Aragorn did resist the power of the ring so much as he was wise enough to know he couldn't resist it and thus keep it away from himself. He like Gandalf understood that it was Frodo's burden to bear and that if either of them had attempted to carry it may give in to its power. Elendil otoh won it in battle and had it in his hand while believing to be his based on taking it from Sauron. It's not so clear that Aragorn would have been able to resist it under similar circumstances as his ancestor. Even Gandalf didn't want to touch it.

You mean like the Salk vaccine? Smoke some more.....

I love the movies too, but let's not get crazy.

No, the OP was right. Let's not pretend like the modern world is all that or something.

@@normie2716 its true,there never will be something as epic and beautiful as Lord of the Rings again

They're very good films and iconic too. What do you think of the Suez Canal though?

It's like watching a beautiful painting

finally someone with same intention to watch lord of the rings... watching lotr is like spritual journey

My family watches the LOTR trilogy along with the Hobbit Tri every year. Harry Potter every other year lol

The Trilogy still stands as one of the greatest cinematic classics of modern time in my book.

I've really begun to understand why so many movies just seem to be absolute crap, because some of the very first movies I was really introduced to and definitely the first movies I loved were LOTR. So my whole life I've just compared everything to this, and nothings come close.

Like the people in the back of the crowd at the Sermon on the Mount in Life of Brian 😂

Plus, the fact that within this context, Legolas's look of desperation to save him makes more sense here because Aragorn is getting his ass beat by Sauron himself.

Yes, Legolas has such intense attraction to other males. He literally drooled over the gorgeous Prince Imrahil...

@@cerberus6654 Your LGBT agenda has no power here! Go back to the shadow!! YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!

1:59 was Sauron an elf before or?

​@@kodesh1674 it shows an elf here but sauron had many forms depending on who he was dealing with etc.

Sauron would’ve tempted them

@@apoocumber4164 wha? How? He doesn't have the One Ring!

@@donutlovingwerewolf8837 the one ring was made after sauron took cerimbors ring in battle

He already had the ghosts longer in the movies than in the books. They left after taking out the corsairs. It was the men of the north that helped at Gondor.

Bro that's just some videogame bullshit. It's not canon (though neither is this movie 😎)

Imagine Morgoth..

He had a physical form in the books though.

@@Simpie32 I know I'm talking about how terrifying and other worldly he'd be in comparison to sauron

@@shannonsharpesbackwoods5520 its same person

@@user-ge3tu1ut1e Morgoth and Sauron are not the same person

I see that line still stands strong to this day...

Such a simple line, no shouting, no "CHARGE!"... for those soldiers he just charged in, fearless, its such an pdd chocie and yet such a good one

It's the way he turns around, eyes filled with emotion, and he almost whispers "For Frodo" to the fellowship, the ones who know who Frodo is, and the way the sound of the battle silence as he utters the line and then the music plays and he runs toward the enemy. It's beautiful.

Hey same here! I was always looking forward to the holidays, best years of cinema in my life

Yes. Exactly this. These films made the build up to Christmas during those years something amazingly special.

It's like it was yesterday

@Bezalel Jaeger 308 They are lucky to have you as a parent. I hope to love it.

@@KhanyoMjamba Your so right, it feels like the moment just passed. Great times.

As my grandma said it’s just a movie enjoy it for what it is or keep your mouth shut!

Viewed in a vacuum purely as films telling a story in their own right the three theatrical cuts are one of the greatest achievements in the history of the medium and imo they will be timeless and continue to captivate as long as people still watch movies.

Keep your disdain for the Amazon series because they really are throwing the book away and making up their own crap

@@dkp2112 it's going to be good. . .I promise. Didn't you know they're having the first female dwarf on screen? Oh and she's black! It has to be good, no amount of terrible writing/acting or editing can stop the purity of representation!

For what it's worth Pretty much *anyone* who read the books first, would dislike the movies. You just cant fit in all the important information in 3 hours. It only natural. And you can apply that to any book/movie genre - same thing.

Also very contrary to all lore. Sauron could not assume any form at that time, Merry was in Minas Tirith in the house of healing not at the battle, and Aragorn's father's were not the ones meant to restore Gondor.

​@@robbieblack111because it's not unless you have ADD

I suggest you read the books

@@e33d90 I did , thanks.

The humankind don't create that often such a masterpiece. I guess we have to wait another century before, we create such an amazing Universe like the one To lien created.

Back when directors actually had a shred of care for source material.

I never hated Sauron, this movie didn't invoke any feelings in me besides homophobia. I did pity Gollum

Its all green screen nonsense these days

@@ahmorgan Wait what?! Why are you homophobic?!

In my twenties and agree completely - the emotional resonance of this trilogy is staggering. I remember being excited for Fellowship but falling asleep partway through, and waking up to the absolute fiery monstrosity fighting Gandalf on the bridge - it was incredible! I’ve since rewatched all of the films many, many times, so nothing has been missed from the first viewing in theatres, and it’s by far a total monument of filmmaking, casting, acting, and overall execution - so many brilliant performances, even from the smallest of parts and creatures. I’m so glad Tolkien’s work has reached so far and touched so many - these are a remarkable achievement of literature and cinema both.

I am in my twenties and saw the trilogy in theaters as a child. I loved them but often wonder what it would be like to see these movies for the first time as an adult, old enough to appreciate HOW faithful they were to the source material and how much of a masterpiece it was in every way. Thank you for sharing!

@@offtankgaming1310 What has astounded me (and I think Tolkien's ghost/spirit/presence must have been guiding them all) is all the way this COULD have failed! You are SOOO right about the execution!! It was apparent when you watch them over again how much Jackson and company (and if you are real geeky like me, listen to the commentaries.... Fran and Phillipa were the ones to really nail a lot of this stuff down!) were able to get the stuff for the fans in there as well as typical movie buffs! Script? Actors and acting? Cinematograhy? Music? (Shore's score is perhaps one of the greatest ever!) Costumes. Sound. Editing. CGI and regular propts. Its ALL there. As I said in the beginning, there were a thousand ways to fail and perhaps only a couple to win. And they freaking hit the ball not only out of the park, but out of the country! New Line, the scrappy studio, made a HUGE bet. And it paid off!! If I was on a desert island with a working dvd player and tv and could only watch one thing, it would be that trilogy!

​@@johngreener9784 if you really 61 you quite cool man. Haven't met someone your age that is such a fan on LoTR. How would you say are the books for someone that has only seen the films? I just bought the trilogy but haven't started reading it yet. I hear the books are very in depth, sometimes too in depth than necessary. What's your opinion?

@@crymeariver69riseandshine HI and thanks! Well, when I was 18 and newly enlisted in the Air Force, I was very fortunate. I was linguist who studied Russian at DLI in Monterey, CA. So nearly all of my classmates were above average intelligence. I think even a couple would be classified as "genius" (not me though!) And fairly nerdy. Nearly everyone would walk around with books on Philosophy, Spiritualism, Greek Mythology. You get the idea. One of the things EVERYONE told me was to read LOTR! So I did. BUT, I was young and impatient. I really skimmed a lot of the exposition. And it just was ho hum for me. HOWEVER - around 3 years later I REREAD it ., THen it was like OH, OK I think I get it know! But it was really the THIRD read another 3 years later that nearly broke me. I had really, really gottern into it. I read all of the appendixes, the whole kit and kaboodle. It ripped my guts out. I was actually depressed for like a couple of weeks after. I had finally gotten what so many had told me over the years. So, to answer your question, the DO have a LOT of exposition in them. You have to put your mind into a spot where you can really read it slowly (at your own pace of course) and really try to let your own mind build the world! My experience with LOTR has been really long and almost exhausting! And my friends who are my age still binge on the movies like once a year around Christmas! I bought an 85" tv and the 4K dvds JUST for LOTR!!! LOL! Hope that helps a bit. I know it was long, but LOTR is LONG!!!

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The same can be said for Legolas (The Hobbit movies)

@@impractically728 what do you mean?! Everything Legolas did are taken straight form the pages! Including that kick-ass move he did when he slides down the ramp with a shield into the enemies!

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Neither was the flaming eyeball.

Yep. By all rights Mordor would/should have won this battle if not for the destruction of the ring. No need for Sauron to get his hands dirty.

Still it was awesome scene

He could have simply gone down there for revenge.

I think Sauron could have appeared for a moment before trudging back off, leaving his armies to do the work.

I honestly think this scene would fit better for a Video Game of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy rather than a Movie that's supposed to be more faithful to the events of the books.

Excellent point

I know right they watch as the orcs all just give up randomly and the tower just falls down on its own like wait what we were making our last stand and wait we just won?!?!?

This is sad to say but frodo can't get credit for destroying, only for getting the it there to its destination

@@Solo_terryaki Not to mention the little bastard actually wanted to betray everyone Technically, they owe the victory over Sauron to Smeagle (by accident) Because Frodo would have let them all die to keep his ring

@@Nightdare I mean, you're not technically wrong, but geez

until now. MYSTERY DESTROYED!

Got me blubbering like a baby still lol

And Sam's the one who did all the heavy lifting

It was the original “AVENGERS!!!!…. assemble” whisper

Everytime constipation kicks in when I'm on the toilet "For Frodo..."

@@ILoveallthegirls1 😀

Number one reason The Hobbit failed in my mind in Theatres. Double framerate suddenly revealed all the same trickery. In 24fps it's much better

Yes, that's the power of cinematic immersion... and it's really hard to keep up for 78 hours of total runtime or however long this trilogy is ;) but they did it.

Yea, that's why I hate all this 4k shit it breaks the spell of escapism that movies and TV are meant to have, it's like being on the set watching it being made rather than enjoying the escapism

Post-production is a marvel to cherish, lad!

@@jaymcd8577 bingo man.

NO YOU'RE WRONG WE SHOUD HAVE SEEN THAT FIGHTING NO MATTER HOW IT WILL BE

@@nildesperandum2034 Sure, everyone who worked on the films was wrong. We should have gotten the video game final boss fight.

When Aragorn's will is faltering, you see Gandalf wave his hand as if to pull the curtain of doubt back so that Aragorn's faith in his friends pushes through. It's such a subtle thing and I love it.

@@nildesperandum2034 Dude...........chill.

I like Gollum

Howard Shore….a Canadian 🇨🇦👍

Anything Howard Shore does is amazing. Even the theme for Rings of Power is great! The show, not so much, but that opening track is 🔥

The chills get worse with time with the nostalgia. Plus, possibly, as you get more life experience more things become more personally relevant. Like I watched the Pixar movie "Up" after my grandparents died and found it especially sad.

@@aryasayne absolutely - life gets more bittersweet as we get older, and these sorts of things hit on a different level when we come back and watch them again. Sorry to hear about your grandparents 😢

I believe you might have covid-19. It was a meh speech!

20 years ,dear God does life go fast.

@@chrismantonuk aw thanks. It was over ten years ago but just an example.

Weta Workshop's finest

And now we get Lawd of da Rangs adaptations ready to trample it all.

@@secretname2670 I really dont think that rings of power is that bad. Definitely not as good as the original movies but it's good and mainly lore friendly

@@matthewmoloney1076 Female beauty Shelob. Black dwarves and elves. Galadriel being so brutish and at the same time impotent compared to lore. Hobbits being retarded instead of easygoing. The examples go on.

@@matthewmoloney1076 Personally, I like the series a lot, but I wouldn't call it lore friendly at all. Two major things that they've gotten wrong are that Galadriel is supposed to have already met and married Celeborn and Durin IV isn't the son of Durin III

Didn’t he lose the ability to assume a fair form when his physical form was destroyed on Numenor?

Yes but I think the glimpse is like a spiritual form probably more of a metaphor to when he could assume a fair form

Meh, it's the same devine race as Saruman and Gandalf.

@@Lorrdd perhaps he grown into a degree that he would be able to take it as a spiritual form for a few momments

@@BasePuma4007 im pretty sure Saruman & Gandalf appear as old men because that is how the people of middle-earth would be most receptive to them(wise old men vibes and stuff). Their true forms are probably just as majestic as Sauron's(maybe not Saruman idk if his may have been corrupted or something from becoming evil)

I agree with the sentiment, but I think the Troll was kind of a lame replacement. The Mouth of Sauron would have been perfect as he represents Sauron on the battle field.

@@sm4carnageihope Does Eowyn kill the Witch king in the books also? Cause I would have loved Aragorn to fight him 1v1 and kill him in front of the black gate with Anduril which also has magic in it so he can kill Nazgul with it

@@Johnny.1994 Yes she does

@@Johnny.1994 yes, she does. If you change that to aragorn the prophecy "no man can kill him" wouldnt work anymore, right?

@@seimen4348 That's why I asked it 😂 I haven't read the books only have seen lore videos on KZhead

HOW DARE YOU FORGET!

Yeah, the yellow crane trucks of Mordor gets me every time.

@@Allure1337 I'm a great fan of this trilogy. But I don't have time to see not even one movie cause each one is 4 hours. When I start the movie I must watch all of it and not continue another day from the 1st hour. That's why I forgot 😂👍

@No Touchy good question !

I like this ending much more than the original. This duel should have happened while the halflings are trying to destroy the ring.

I would have liked if they incorporated the fact that both Merry and Pippin were a head taller (drinking all of that Ent Draught), buffed up, and battle hardened. Those two were beast mode at this point.

The fact it was actually Pippin that was first after Aragorn makes it even better

Yes dead inside. Just as the Rings of Power Content so far.

Yeah but in real life they would have been trampled by the horses in no time.

Lots of Pathos more like?

Yes..its a closest thing to orgasm you can get in movie

I also feel like the changes made sense in terms of telling a story for the movie. As cool as seeing certain scenes and characters would have been cool to see, the flow of the movie always felt right with what scenes they decided to show. And it was obvious to anyone the sheer amount of effort that went into the sets, the costumes, the acting, and special effects.

Reducing the convoluted cast of the books was the right decision, especially cutting the characters who were mainly cameos from other Tolkien stories like Glorfindel or didn't really feed into the main story like Tom Bombadil. Other than that I maybe missed the barrow-wights (and therefore the rather important origin of Merry's barrow-blade) and that scene where the Rohirrim overtake the Uruks, besiege and then and slay them all (that was drastically cut short in the movie). And as for Arwen: we got Liv Tyler for that, I have no objections whatsoever!

@@davideberhardt6150 Jackson condensing a bit was fine. It was the character changes that literally pissed me off...Emo Aragorn, babyish failure Frodo, overly human and weak Gandalf (WTF! He's a flipping angel!), wavering Theoden, weak Faramir... I could go on and on about the character changes but I'd just get ticked off enough to have chest pains lol.

Would have likes the barrow wights

@@davideberhardt6150 removing Tom B was the right call. In the book it's more like an experiment in writing. Even him trying on the ring just makes no sense

What speech?

I know. Especially considering that Aragorn is basically telling his men that their job is to die with him to give Frodo an open door to Mt. Doom. This was a suicide mission.

I mean, have you seen braveheart?

@@matthewcasagrande231 I can't watch it do to its massive historical inaccuracies.

@@matthewcasagrande231 I have, but I've had "stand men of the west" memorized since I was 12 so ya know

I would change only one thing in movies: in Siege of Minas Tirith, when Aragorn come by ships, it would be cool if there was change to resemble books - big army from Gondor fiefdoms, not army of dead.

Now look at what Amazon is doing with their LOTR series... What a damn travesty.

I would make a few small changes. First I would slightly change the balrog to look more humanoid and less bestial. I love that scene the most but I wouldn't hate a change of that style. Secondly I would change Theoden and make him more book-like. Lastly I think that they should have perhaps had Sauron finally appear at some point after the final battle had started - instead of him appearing right before it starts. Give us a minute to question if he truly has a physical form with which to fight with. Perhaps the men of the Wes are+ holding their own for a few minutes and then Sauron appears to basically break their morale and 1v1 Aragorn until the ring is destroyed. I think it would make for a double climax and it would draw out the final battle climax a bit more too. I actually think leaving out the Scouring of the Shire added a bit of "we really saved the world from darkness" type of feel because the Shite seemingly remains untouched by any semblance of change upon their return. I know this is not book accurate at all but in movie form it really sold me.

@@vintagecardboardusa Uh... I forgot about Scouring of Shire - This should to be in movies too. Bombadil too.

@@Aria-un9iy "Now look " I don't think I will.

I think out of all these fantasy type / supernatural things with a great evil enemy, LOTR did Sauron the best, wish they put this scene in there instead of a cave troll or at least had it in the extended dvd

If Sauron was terrifying, imagine Melkor, Glaurung, Gothmog... 😮

@@tonyusa5509 They'll be super hot numbah 1.

⁠@@stancurry6265The reason they didn’t is because it wouldn’t have done the story justice and would have caused lots of contradictions, not to mention being a disservice to Frodo’s quest to destroy the One Ring

​@@tonyusa5509 Tolkien stated that Sauron was "the most terrible of the servants of Morgoth" in Silmarillion. So Gothmog, Glaurung and all other servants of the first dark lord were less-terrifying and less powerful than Sauron

shut up. why do you think it wasn't added..

Guess that’s why the choose not to include it either the extended edit or normal movie

And this sounds stupid af

Satan aka Lucifer

@@rockyp32 Sauron is not Satan within the Tolkien legendarium. That would be Melkor, aka Morgoth. Melkor was the first born and most powerful of the Ainur (arc angels) and the most like Eru (God) in his independent desire to create and an interest in all things (unlike the other Ainur who had narrow interests like the sky, sea, wildlife, etc). This made him frustrated because although he had the will to create only Eru has the ability so rather he chose to corrupt and twist creation to impose his own order attracting multiple Maiar (lesser angels) to his cause and creating all of the monsters and orcs. Sauron was one such Maiar who was given some power by Melkor and later focused his power with the One Ring. Melkor was eventually defeated by the Ainur who came to save the elves from him and banished him to the timeless void. He is prophesied to return for the last battle at the end of time. Tldr: Sauron is not Satan, he’s a demon ruling in Satan’s place because Satan was defeated long ago

you should look into gandalf's role in middle earth and his ring of power that he used to save middle earth, that would explain it much more than some eager hobbits sprinting forward