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Ford F150 Lightning Off-Road Detail: Best Electric Truck for Detailing?

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2023 ж. 24 Мау.
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This is a brand new Ford Lightning F150 and we test its usability as a mobile detailing truck. After testing the power capabilities at the AMMO Studio, we take the Lightning for some off-road fun and a middle of the woods detail. Enjoy!
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  • Hey Larry- Electrical Engineer here. How much power you're going to be able to pull from the trucks120V outlet is going to be limited to the trucks OCPD (over current protection device). Your typical household outlet will be connected to a 15A breaker or sometimes a 20A breaker. A caveat here is most circuit breakers of this size have two tripping modes: *Instantaneous* and *Long Time.* Instantaneous is meant to protect the wire when the circuit is immediately overloaded of faulted condition- You plug in a 30A load into a 15A circuit, or maybe the circuit is shorted. The breaker will trip immediately. The *Long Time* trip is meant to protect the circuit from overload over a period of time and is typically 80% of the maximum rating. So, if you plug in a Kranzle pressure washer into a 15A circuit and it pulls 14A, the breaker will eventually trip to prevent damage to the wire because 15A*0.80 = 12A. You can run a 12A load indefinitely, anything above that will eventually trip the breaker. Same is true for 20A circuit breakers. This is for continuous loads. A continuous load is defined by NEC (Electrical Code) as a load that operates longer than 3 Hours. An electrical pressure washer is not a continuous load because of the nature of the use case for it, it will turn on for 2-3 minutes and then shut off as you clean the car. This is why 20A dedicated circuits are rarely an issue. The Ford's outlet tripped immediately and did not let you use the pressure washer which means it was tripped instantaneously- meaning the pressure washer overloaded it by a factor much greater than its typical rating. What's interesting is, according to Ford the outlets can provide up to 7.2KW of power or 60A, but what is not stated is how each outlet is protected, I suspect they are limited to 15A each. Which is why your AR Blue tripped the circuit. AR recommends a minimum of 20A and when Obsessed Garage tested the pressure washer, the running ampacity was around 15-17A. Remember, a 15A circuit can run up to 12A continuously, above that it will trip eventually. Furthermore, 240V outlets are generally regarded as safer as they can deliver more power with less current. This is because Power = Current x Voltage x powerfactor (we'll ignore power factor for this exmaple though). Hope this helps!

    @RussellKasem@RussellKasem10 ай бұрын

    • Thx for the info!

      @AMMO-NYC@AMMO-NYC10 ай бұрын

    • I wonder about the possibilities of the Ego power pack....... Larry, we need to know!

      @VinceCannavaII@VinceCannavaII10 ай бұрын

    • So basically, anyone running a mobile detailing station should try to get 240V compatible equipment?

      @tofu.delivery.@tofu.delivery.10 ай бұрын

    • Also an electrical engineer and Ford Lightning owner here; each of the Ford Lightning 110v Outlets are rated for 20 amps. However, what is trippin isn't an old-school physical breaker, instead, the actual inverter is monitoring current and shutting down on its own (soft overload). The motors used on appliances like electric pressure washers have a massive inrush current and considering they switch on and off constantly due to how they're designed, you're bound to exceed 20 amps constantly. I know the Ford Lightning gives you some time to exceed the rated output I don't know how long that window is I think it's designed around air compressors that switch on and off not nearly as frequently as the pressure washer. Three workarounds I would suggest, One, try to be more intentional with pressing the trigger on your pressure washer(I learned this when I was constantly throwing a breaker at my house I regularly to feather the trigger on and off making my motor switch on and off more often than it needed to, instead I should hold down the trigger and very the distance to get all the control I need). Two, in practice, due to how the outlets are wired, I think you can pull more current out of the outlets in the trunk and truck bed than the ones in the cab even though they're rated for the same 20 amps.( however, if you close the trunk I think the front Outlets are limited to 400W) Last, there's the obvious, it will probably work fine if you use the 30 amp outlet and an adapter. You probably have one of the adapters lying around. If you have an RV, or ever bought a generator, it's the same connector.

      @xsterawesome@xsterawesome10 ай бұрын

    • As a colorblind person, thank you for your service! Electricians rock.

      @davidt3563@davidt356310 ай бұрын

  • Only you dude. Only you.😂 When it comes to testing, I think you take the top honor. I love off-road as much as anyone else and I also love my Ram Rebel being as clean as possible...after a weekend of off-road. But, testing those capabilities may possibly sway a mobile detailer to go that route with a beautiful and capable truck. Pretty badass!

    @gunsnsails@gunsnsails10 ай бұрын

  • This video brought to you by Ford 😄

    @krisberntzen@krisberntzen10 ай бұрын

  • Love how stoked you were on this. Cool idea there,detailing with a view. Would be cool to see a full detail on another offroad vehicle (jeep or similar) way back in the sticks with a fun view or overlook.

    @tjd7785@tjd778510 ай бұрын

  • Great video Larry, as always. It's nice to see you out playing in the woods! And excellent tire choice. I've been running the Vredestein Pinzas for over a year on my daily. They were such an improvement over my previous A/T tires in ride quality, handling, noise level and wet performance. And it's cool to see a Lightning getting dirty. Great truck!

    @RogerGarbow@RogerGarbow10 ай бұрын

  • When I hear the word "frunk" it makes me appreciate "boot" and "bonnet" so much more. Score one for the commonwealth.

    @Pigeoning@Pigeoning10 ай бұрын

  • From what I can see online I think that 240v outlet runs 30 amps, with a 10% tolerance for voltage that should run a 230v 5hp electric power washer at 3.5gpm@2400psi, that would be fun to have mounted right in the bed with a reservoir and a hose reel😁

    @ChemX@ChemX10 ай бұрын

  • Electrical nerd here: it's easy, just use the 240v 😂

    @CoLiC2@CoLiC210 ай бұрын

    • He said that he didn't have the adapter to plug into the 240v outlet.

      @samkamps3@samkamps39 ай бұрын

  • 6:32 😂 Great video, Larry. Keep the comedy comin, please! 🤣

    @BlakieTT@BlakieTT10 ай бұрын

  • I just test drove one of these, incredible truck!

    @CharlieGraff@CharlieGraff10 ай бұрын

  • 😂 That’s so awesome. I will have to try the Frothe on rubber floor mats.

    @randyealy310@randyealy31010 ай бұрын

  • We need more on the go detailing for various types of cars and situations

    @siddharthsr1@siddharthsr110 ай бұрын

  • That is cool been doing a detailing on a campsite with some beers and someone doing a barbecue.

    @maximilianogomez5963@maximilianogomez596310 ай бұрын

  • I can’t even concentrate on the Truck while a Buick GNX is sitting in the background OH MY!

    @charlieb308@charlieb30810 ай бұрын

  • This is the exact demo I needed! I've been wondering if this would be the best vehicle for my mobile detail business!

    @ThatRcThing@ThatRcThing10 ай бұрын

    • I’d drive that thing off a cliff

      @Amor1990@Amor199010 ай бұрын

    • @@Amor1990 huh, not my idea of fun, but you do you!

      @ThatRcThing@ThatRcThing10 ай бұрын

  • Very trick idea Larry ! Nice job.

    @alanblasczyk1779@alanblasczyk177910 ай бұрын

  • Now, we need a video where you driving around detailing people’s cars using only this truck!

    @Dwaynefreeman@Dwaynefreeman10 ай бұрын

    • That's more like Car Cleaning Guru.

      @SupraTompan@SupraTompan10 ай бұрын

  • Vredestein as a brand are very underrated. The indian tyre company apollo acquired them and they make these tyres in india now(@7:44, you can see the made in india markings)..

    @ak06041@ak0604110 ай бұрын

    • Hopefully they’re better than when I used to see them separated all the time.

      @andrewwinch474@andrewwinch47410 ай бұрын

  • The all-terrain tire will work way better off road, but it’s going to reduce your range. I’d like to see you do a range comparison to see how much range you actually lose.

    @ChadGeidel@ChadGeidel10 ай бұрын

  • That was awesome. I would still want the truck with the gas engine, but a hybrid would be cool.

    @cadmando18@cadmando1810 ай бұрын

  • Very interesting perspective on this detail. I like the concept!

    @ScrappersDetailing@ScrappersDetailing10 ай бұрын

  • Some people may scoff at using three miles of range to wash the truck. How many people live within 1.5 miles of a car wash or groomer though so that seems a possible energy saving straight off the bat.

    @Smurphenstein@Smurphenstein10 ай бұрын

  • Another excellent video. The power struggles are real! 😅

    @OnTrackDetailing@OnTrackDetailing10 ай бұрын

  • Larry im almost ready to take on clients waiting to get my regular pay check the 28 to order the industrial steam/vac and 8kw inverter..

    @chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm288310 ай бұрын

  • Yay! Finally!! This looks so cool

    @madmax82988@madmax8298810 ай бұрын

  • Fascinating vehicle. Of course it's have to get the hybrid F-150 since i live in an apt.

    @Masterplan15@Masterplan1510 ай бұрын

  • Definitely one of your oddest videos yet, love it haha

    @Rodiak41@Rodiak4110 ай бұрын

  • When using a less powerful powerful washer maybe add more wash solution so you get more foam, just a thought I had, hope this helps guys

    @nickmartin4980@nickmartin498010 ай бұрын

  • Very nice! I’ll have to build a nice mobile detailing setup out of this truck! 👍🏼👍🏼

    @RaldasDetails@RaldasDetails10 ай бұрын

  • that is one of your best yet

    @peterboss1118@peterboss111810 ай бұрын

  • I had multiple problems with my lightning. Ford then swapped it out for a new one. More issues. Rinse and repeat. On my third lightning now and everything has been peachy. Knock on wood.

    @DeepDishPizza@DeepDishPizza10 ай бұрын

    • Had you gotten regular f150 you wouldn’t have issues

      @604h22a@604h22a10 ай бұрын

    • @@604h22a incorrect. I’ve had plenty of issues with regular 150s

      @DeepDishPizza@DeepDishPizza10 ай бұрын

  • I see the GT hiding out in the background, cant wait to see your video on it

    @johnhardin7955@johnhardin795510 ай бұрын

  • Self-powering NOT self-cleaning

    @casey8836@casey883610 ай бұрын

  • Very interesting and expencive idea. I really wonder could it ever pay itself off if you make that pickup into a mobile detailing truck.

    @KRAMPUS_G60_16V@KRAMPUS_G60_16V10 ай бұрын

    • I day say the uplift in price would make it a while to pay its self off.

      @jason21jburg@jason21jburg10 ай бұрын

    • @@jason21jburg also the added stress to the system and battery, the more you use a battery the faster it goes out, and its expensive to replace so not really a good cost savings until batteries become cheaper

      @RockyRepairs@RockyRepairs9 ай бұрын

  • Is it really safe to rub dirt without water, no matter what lubricating effect this special soap gives?

    @nothinglikeart4720@nothinglikeart472010 ай бұрын

  • Awesome video Larry!

    @alex210191@alex21019110 ай бұрын

  • The way im setting up my steam vac which uses 3650 watt power .. my truck has a inverter hook up plugging in a 8KW inverter.. im going from 12v DC -220v ac...

    @chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm288310 ай бұрын

  • Only Larry would detail a truck in the middle of the woods.

    @mej684@mej68410 ай бұрын

    • I got a pump and hose and wash my truck camping at the lake 😬

      @foxbodyboys4483@foxbodyboys448310 ай бұрын

  • Thinking about getting this or a Cyber Truck for my mobile detailing business. I really could use a model Y if they had power outlets. Trying to eliminate using a generator.

    @atlmz6@atlmz627 күн бұрын

  • @AMMO-NYC These tyres are made in India. In 8:04 it can be clearly seen. Just my 2 cents. 😁

    @thamil-engineering@thamil-engineering10 ай бұрын

  • 100k truck what a steal!!!!!!!!

    @scottw595@scottw5959 ай бұрын

  • Larry’s wife: Yeah camping with Larry is always interesting… 😆

    @MarioDallaRiva@MarioDallaRiva10 ай бұрын

  • this is the first electric car that i would tolerate, having some power while going around is a must nowadays so it's a good concept. but my real question is: some couple of years after, does the batteries will hold enough power to do those things? anyway, cool truck btw.

    @der_kluger_gunther8391@der_kluger_gunther839110 ай бұрын

  • super cute premise.

    @richardtabor8686@richardtabor868610 ай бұрын

  • When you hit a rock and this thing become furiously spontaneous 😂 The moment American roast themselves 😂

    @noobwow2009@noobwow200910 ай бұрын

  • I think I'm in love

    @kylebouyers51@kylebouyers516 ай бұрын

  • Super dope 🔥

    @aaronaustrie@aaronaustrie10 ай бұрын

  • Cant wait till they come to Oz

    @johnphillips519@johnphillips51910 ай бұрын

  • Battery operated jet wash !! Park near a lake Larry 😉😎

    @londoncentral@londoncentral10 ай бұрын

  • This has got to be some form of world record. Like first electric truck cleaned after off-roading in the woods by battery and elbow grease.

    @davidt3563@davidt356310 ай бұрын

  • Only Larry would put European offroad tires on an American truck 😂😂😂

    @jonnyjonnyyespapa8013@jonnyjonnyyespapa801310 ай бұрын

  • So cool to see an EV on here and it’s so exciting to see how self-reliant one can be with a vehicle like this! And props to see one finally get dirty too!

    @sreville@sreville10 ай бұрын

  • I have a 1995 Ford F-150 with some fuzzy seats how do I clean them?

    @gailpring9775@gailpring977510 ай бұрын

  • Get the European version, you'll have 230v 16A power outlets all around and 400v 25A in the bed aswell

    @championxxlNL@championxxlNL10 ай бұрын

  • I don't know the figures but I'm sure a Hilux out sells these F150's bumpy a long way!

    @dazzrods@dazzrods9 ай бұрын

  • Awsome video!

    @interceptintercept@interceptintercept10 ай бұрын

  • Can the Rivian power the power washer longer than the lightning?

    @the_ep_nerd7311@the_ep_nerd731110 ай бұрын

  • Is that a pure sine wave AC power it makes? It can damage sensitive electronics if it's not.

    @TheTarrMan@TheTarrMan10 ай бұрын

  • Can’t wait until these are affordable lol!

    @subsonicbass@subsonicbass10 ай бұрын

  • That's very Interesting Larry. Kinda made me Raise an eyebrow to the "TEXAS" Disaster when they Used these Pro Power On Board FORD Pick Up Trucks to POWER Entire Homes. I know they were Using the "Higher Voltage" Outlet in the Back for Heavy Duty stuff, but the 110VAC Outlets have "limits' to the amount the Truck is Capable of putting out. So in that regard this is GREAT Information to have, Being that ALL The FORD Commercials Lead you to Believe that you can Just Plug Anything in and Start Working???? Again, Great Video, Kinda Cool to see ya Beating around in the Woods, and detailing in the same spot. Wish I had that much FrothE to Squirt all over everything? 😂😎😳, Yikes, that musta cost a TON??

    @kendavis1198@kendavis119810 ай бұрын

  • I missed it: Larry, do you own that? Is that your next detail employee?

    @jamesb6153@jamesb615310 ай бұрын

  • One of the most entertaining videos I’ve seen in a long time. But only Larry would venture out to the woods to detail a car🤪 Thanks for thinking out side the garage 👍✌️☮️

    @bstewartexecutivecarcare3797@bstewartexecutivecarcare379710 ай бұрын

  • So what happens when you drain the battery detailing yourncar then younget stranded.

    @matty_isthemotto@matty_isthemotto10 ай бұрын

  • Was that tire the sponsor for the video?

    @Joshklawansky@Joshklawansky10 ай бұрын

  • Is this F-150 Lightning yours Larry?

    @KonstaNykanen@KonstaNykanen10 ай бұрын

  • How many miles is a full clean. Seems to take 10-15 miles.

    @hviw3h3n@hviw3h3n10 ай бұрын

  • If a truck cleans its self in the middle of the woods, does it make a sound? There has to be a joke in here somewhere.

    @grscum@grscum10 ай бұрын

  • MURAD form Toronto 🇨🇦👋👌🤘🏻

    @muradomar5649@muradomar564910 ай бұрын

  • i have a car detailing business im mobil i go to the clients house and i drive a wrangler with a trailer currently soending 200 on gas a week this truck will be awesome fir me but not so sure if is good at towing 300 gallons of water plus my equipment 🤷🏻‍♂️

    @jayden92312@jayden923123 ай бұрын

  • One thing how long does it take to charge????? I can drive 18 hr from NY to FL That's with a gas engine,Waiting for Hours to charge is one thing will stop me from buy one even if I had the money...

    @roninbudo@roninbudo10 ай бұрын

  • HOW ABOUT GETTING THE LIGHTING TO SELF CHARGE BEFORE WE GET TO SELF CLEANING? LOL

    @cdaway2024@cdaway202410 ай бұрын

    • How about you lay off the caps old man

      @ilikechickensausages2075@ilikechickensausages207510 ай бұрын

  • Trading in the Taycan for the Lighting?

    @KPDetails@KPDetails10 ай бұрын

  • Is this your own truck Larry?

    @rm0234@rm023410 ай бұрын

  • Self-cleaning truck* *Some assembly required. Not supplied with Larry.

    @i2cube@i2cube10 ай бұрын

  • Such a cool change of your typical videos

    @homes24@homes2410 ай бұрын

  • AR Blue 630tss pulls 20 amp

    @kylepapke9357@kylepapke935710 ай бұрын

  • What is the cost of the truck ?

    @mikedavis2969@mikedavis296910 ай бұрын

  • Actually, would’ve been funny if Larry used some Milwaukee D/A with their electric batteries, and then charge them off the truck 💧🎤

    @timbrown9731@timbrown973110 ай бұрын

  • So did you buy this for Ammo? Or just borrowing it?

    @dancoyne4151@dancoyne415110 ай бұрын

    • Borrow

      @AMMO-NYC@AMMO-NYC10 ай бұрын

  • No tires for my truck.....:(

    @matthiasweigel311@matthiasweigel3119 ай бұрын

  • Cool

    @dougnokia@dougnokia10 ай бұрын

  • I would miss the engine sound 😂. I know. I am little weird 😂

    @stevansaunders18@stevansaunders1810 ай бұрын

  • Polishing the paint on my car in the woods, using battery power from the vehicle ……💧🎤

    @timbrown9731@timbrown973110 ай бұрын

  • Nice episode. But no way am I buying an electric vehicle. To many horror stories accumulating.

    @ngbsolo138@ngbsolo13810 ай бұрын

  • Electric Vehicles…not saving the planet. Not the most efficient choice of vehicles. I hope you got paid to influence EV. I love this channel. STRIKE ONE ✌🏼🤟🏼🇺🇸

    @ginman69@ginman697 ай бұрын

  • At the drag strip last weekend I cooked a whole breakfast for 8 people using my buddies new Lightning. My 2016 is on the clock 😂

    @extraspc5182@extraspc518210 ай бұрын

  • Still haven’t gotten to spend time with these yet. Kinda want to.

    @P4SDetails@P4SDetails10 ай бұрын

  • I feel like for 100k you could have built a pretty amazing trailer with solar panels and batteries. You could have also purchased a F150 option that has built in inverter which would be more practical in this situation if you didn't want to pull a trailer around. Excessive reason to buy a Ford Lightning but looks like a nice write off.

    @orated762@orated76210 ай бұрын

  • 🎉🎉🎉

    @ultimateglossllc@ultimateglossllc10 ай бұрын

  • Better hope that thing doesn’t spontaneously combust in the shop.

    @jkxelor1295@jkxelor129510 ай бұрын

    • I mean, it is a Ford😊

      @mgthaking4615@mgthaking461510 ай бұрын

  • Would be impressed if it actually cleaned itself.

    @megaruhe6296@megaruhe629610 ай бұрын

  • So that’s yours?

    @Parkster1212@Parkster121210 ай бұрын

  • The Lightning seems like a vehicle that will be cool for the first few years of it's life, after that it will become unreliable and very expensive to maintain so nobody will want it.

    @jundialhaqiqa9907@jundialhaqiqa990710 ай бұрын

    • If I want an unreliable vehicle that I will still like after a few years I will buy a Range Rover 😂

      @Christoph-sd3zi@Christoph-sd3zi10 ай бұрын

    • What makes you think it will become unreliable or expensive to maintain? Those two things are not usually common on electric vehicles.

      @JamieHarveyJr@JamieHarveyJr10 ай бұрын

    • @@JamieHarveyJr who wants to wait an hour to charge? Or try to find a charging station? I'll stick with the proven gasoline engine.

      @michaelm3381@michaelm338110 ай бұрын

    • @@michaelm3381The trick is to charge while taking a break, coffee or dinner.

      @ArjanSchepers@ArjanSchepers10 ай бұрын

    • @@ArjanSchepers I'd still hate to not be able to find a charging station when needed. AAA can also bring you a gas can, but I doubt they can jump an EV.

      @michaelm3381@michaelm338110 ай бұрын

  • Guess self cleaning means you still have to clean it yourself

    @MegaJosephandrew@MegaJosephandrew10 ай бұрын

  • the range on these are terrible. Hoovies garage bought one and he barely got half the milage advertised any time!

    @Vikturus22@Vikturus2210 ай бұрын

  • keep that garage door in case these electrics turn into fireballs and you gotta emergency roll it out. the fumes alone will kill and maim. ultra dangerous to anyone down-wind.

    @Hitomaru-shiki.sensha@Hitomaru-shiki.sensha10 ай бұрын

  • I have to say - in a matter of a few short months, my interest in “engine sound” has evaporated almost completely. Are there a few engines out there from exotic car manufacturers that sound exquisite? Sure. But 99.99% of cars just sound stupid, including all pickup trucks. Period. The noise is really aggravating after a while. So the prospect of this soon becoming a thing of the past, of cars becoming silent and causing less vibration, COULD NOT HAPPEN FASTER imo. Fun video btw

    @magnesium_subsoil_94@magnesium_subsoil_9410 ай бұрын

  • Very cool , not so much the bugs

    @LynneR1954@LynneR195410 ай бұрын

  • I wouldn’t touch that truck with a 10’ pole. I rather have a V8 naturally aspirated.

    @user-ne9wp8ve5u@user-ne9wp8ve5u10 ай бұрын

  • No matter what you do to a Ford truck or car, its still a Ford with all its inherent low quality workmanship, parts and inbuilt defects.

    @wozmac771@wozmac7713 ай бұрын
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