#psychology #madness #literallyme
From the famous literally me characters like Patrick Bateman and Tyler Durden to the Wizard of Oz, directors love to create characters whose reality is different from the rest. Are the characters going insane or do they just live in a mad world? In this video we'll go over the concept of Madness and see how it has created some of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema.
Some of the characters we are going to discuss: Joker, Travis Bickle, Jack Torrence, Alex DeLarge, Tyler Durden/The Narrator, Donnie Darko, Norman Bates, Lou Bloom and a few more!
Holy Motors, High Life & City of God are streaming on MUBI in the Netherlands and many other countries. Get 30 days free: mubi.com/ducinema
Full list of all the movies mentioned is in the pin comment!
0:00 Analyzing madness
0:43 1. Psychiatric Institutions
2:35 2. Isolation
4:04 3. Invdividual vs System
6:27 4. Imagination/Alter-Ego
8:36 5. War (Collective Madness)
10:33 6. Psycho
- Business Inquiries: ducinemaofficial@gmail.com
The music in this video is royalty free or licensed through Artlist: artlist.io/referral/3497535/D...
Waltz - Sunny Fruit
Partly Sunny Always Funny - Petro A.
It's Fun Being a Cat - Ziv Grinberg
Spirit Bear- Oran Loyfer
Flower Duet (Lakmé) - Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra
Beholding - Marshall Usinger
Clair De Lune Ethereal Remix
Spaghetti Dual - The Magnetic Buzz
Dead to Me (Instrumental Version) - TINAMINA
Prelude (Carmen) - Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra
Solveig's Song - Hawkins
Lascia ch'io pianga (Rinaldo) - Jerusalem Symphony Orchestra
Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
All the movies mentioned can be found on our Letterboxd and if you have suggestions please write them down below! letterboxd.com/ducinema/list/psycho-characters/
the Simpsons did their parody of the shinning nd added thier own way of horror to it.
you should make a video about city of god :|
My Favz the classicz Harvey - with his invisible friend - life size rabbit Or the whimsical Ascenic & Old Lace - those sweat auntiez poisoning all those lonely men ....
There is no name for the movie at 5:05, even in your link. Kinda annoying.
Insightful, enjoyed listening to your synopsis. The intersection between mental health and criminal law is where it often gets complicated when it can be tricky to determine whether a defendant/perpetrator is falsely claiming diminished responsibility or not 🧐
shutter island is such an underrated movie, it's what happens when you make masterpiece after masterpiece, eventually you can make something amazing, but since it doesn't surpass your previous work, no one pays attention anymore
Underrated???? What in the hellll???? Which one of your two brain cells think that a movie made by Scorsese and starred Leonardo DiCaprio himself could fkin underrated?????
Shutter Island, like most of these movies, is also in the horror/thriller type genres which tend to be less watched and underrated. Many people watch films to escape, enjoy and have fun but Shutter Island's the type of film that leaves you feeling lost and full of despair.
I love that movie, def agree!
I have seen it at least 6 times, and I recommend it to absolutely EVERYONE, such a masterpiece, what a plot!!
@@Diana_Bg7 I don't even know how many times I've watched it. I wish I could wipe it from my memory and watch it again.
These actors should be given more credit. Acting insane is no easy business to begin with. You've gotta have a level of talent to be able to pull off even the subtletest form of madness or insanity.
Phoenix literally won the best actor award for his role in Joker.
Yea but maybe sometimes it’s not talent or acting 💀
Realistically portraying mental illness in a genuine fashion is difficult. Portraying "insanity" in a fashion that feels real to a general audience, while still requiring talent, doesn't take nearly as much talent.
@@kingetzel2755 shutter Island seemed like a good portrayal of dissociative identify disorder and schizophrenia (the extreme trauma causing both and him not being able to know what is real and what are his delusions)
Yeah no shit, Sherlock.
“You see madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little push!” -Heath Ledgers Joker (R.I.P on that note).
Cringe fest
@@jangdi. freaktard
@@jangdi. facts
Ive got a psychotic illness. Donnie Darko and Momento are my favourite representation. They show how their intentions start out good and wanting to help people they love and they only become the monster when it outpaces them. They tried to be good regardless of the result.
👑 You deserve the best
@@DuCinema1 cheers. Always wishing you the same ✌️
donnie darko is my favorite movie of all time. i've been hyperfixated on it for literally months and i felt like i was gonna explode when i saw the clip at the beginning. momento is also phenominal
@@bigsad7524 same memento is greatest film in terms of physiological
you should watch Mr Robot if you havent already seen it, similar to fight club in a lot of ways but i think the way it represents the mental illness of the main character comes across a lot better. In the same way as the films you said the main character is trying to do what he thinks is right but his mental state gradually corrupts his view of right and wrong.
I wonder how the portrayal of “insane” people has affected actual people with mental illness. Usually they are perpetrators of violence in films, while in reality the mentally ill are far more likely to be victims of violence. I see a lot of neurodivergent mannerisms used to make the audience uncomfortable in scenes such as asylum scenes, which are possibly reaffirming that neurodivergent people are inhuman or scary. Could be a good essay lol
Not well, in fact, and videos which glorify a false perception of mental illness, such as this video, are arguable worse.
@@jeffbrownstain yes it makes me uncomfortable seeing actors praised for portraying an offensive stereotype as well lol
i love you so much. you just gave me the topic for my final paper
@@brie1839 my purpose has been fulfilled 🙏
Yeah as an autistic person with ADHD and BPD, it kinda sucks seeing my conditions portrayed so badly Also i have the quiet subtype of BPD which is all inwards, not like the type that's portrayed in hollywood
I read an article done by an investigative journalist on mental health institutions. They played the part of a mental health patient, and were admitted to a hospital. But once you get into the mental health system, it's hard to convince anyone that you're anything besides mentally ill. So that investigative journalist got trapped in the insane asylum and wasn't able to get out. When they tried to explain that they were only there for research, the doctors would not listen to or believe their story. It goes to show that being exposed to or placed in such environments can actually create more illness rather than cure it, by setting up the doctor/patient roles which become fixed and internalized. It's definitely a caveat for the field of mental health, and portrayed well in these movies as these sorts of classifications can easily become "contagious". At the same time, it's not to be dismissive of people suffering from genuine mental health challenges who do require treatment and the importance of the role of therapists. It just makes you questions institutions and their methods to prompt them to be aware of those factors.
That's partly why insane asylums don't really exist anymore. Being forced to stay in even a short-term mental health facility (at least in the U.S.) requires evidence that your condition makes you a threat to yourself or others, and even involuntary outpatient treatment requires a court order that's typically a consequence of breaking the law.
Also sets the mentally ill up to be victimized, oh so and so has an MI, thry are just imagining things
The story gets even funnier ! After that, they published their article, and the same institution began being way more attentive to who should be admitted or not. Then the same journalists say they will send new investigators in institutions to repeat the experiment. The institutions thus admitted less people. But the fact is, the journalists sent nobody...
Nellie bly proved that too. A female journalist went undercover in a mental asylum and proved that a lot of people weren't mentally ill before going in but were broken and even experimented on/killed whilst there. It's easy to go in but near impossible to get out. Once involved with mental health services you're written off and might as well be dead though, even in modern times
@@fetilu0975fewer patients doesn't mean they stopped the harm. It just shows how theyre covering up their actions. Fewer victims means fewer chances of being exposed
It's crazy to me how well Javier pulled off Antoine's accent considering how heavy his normal speaking accent is.
tbh, doesn't everyone have a heavy accent?
Mia Goth does it pretty well in ‘Pearl’.
what about female characters like this? from classics like black swan, persona, possession, perfect blue & gone girl to hidden gems like may, helter skelter, to die for, audition & a tale of two sisters to more recent entries like pearl, titane & midsommar, i feel there’s a lot of characters you could’ve included or at least mentioned in this video…
and the list goes on…, saint maude, girl interrupted, safe, raw, carrie, the red shoes, the neon demon …
a tad bit crazy maybe but not INSANE
@@gussy1000 The neon demon,,.. i don't know what it is about that film that deeply disturbed me, while my dad loved it and played it every day for a week, which made me absolutely hate it 😅
ooh I love all those characters so much, and to me they are the epitome of insanity. I like these male characters, but I love the female ones even more, maybe it's because they usually have an aura of being alluring around them, it's all so beautiful.
@@MirageOneiric aaaaaaaaight
I'm kinda disappointed that Requiem for a Dream was not mentioned in this. The last 30 minutes of the movie shows one of the best descent to madness from a movie that i have ever seen.
Man same requiem for a dream is one of the most underrated shit ever
@@ademonizedwretchguy003 bro doesnt lux aeterna have so many views?? even drug addicts watch that masterpiece to help themselves get out of that situation in rehab
the fun fact of google tilting itself when you search Dutch angle is so cool and interesting
I do enjoy that you mention early on that Shutter Island has a big plot twist you don't want to go into but then dive into Fight Club's plot twist without so much as a warning!
These movies are around a decade old. If you haven't watched it by now, that's on you for clicking on a video that would obviously talk about that movie.
@@originalzebruh I've watched both films. I just found the discrepancy funny
Favorite line from Shutter Island: "Why you all wet baby?" Saw Shutter Island in theaters in an IMAX theater. With Martin's directing and the music score, WOW is all I can say.
LOVE that movie!
Wish u included some "female insanity" in this! Or maybe make a seperate video on it? Great performances such as Angelina Jolie in "Girl interrupted" or Mia Goth in "Pearl" come to mind for example.
I'll give you better , Glen Close in Fatal attraction
12:10 the way he says "Sir?" and his age and general demeanour suggest military service in his youth. The Cohens are good with impactful character details
Fun fact: Everybody looks crazy with the Kubrick stare
I want more insane iconic women, I know there are some. But not enough.
You're absolutely right. I should have added more diversity in the video in the first place. I might make a whole video about it soon 🤫
I’d personally say Misery is a great example
hire a camera crew to follow me around for a day i’ll give ya some great content
How much is enough????
Yes- Gone Girl, Girl Interrupted, Misery, Black Swan, Single White Female, Niagara Niagara, Sybil, Gothika, Silver Linings Playbook, Fatal attraction
Ignoring the "sigma" memes that plagued Taxi Driver. It still describes loneliness perfectly almost 50 years after it was made. Masterpiece of a movie
The best portrayal, in my personal opinion (most pleasing to watch out of all roles I've seen, at least the first time through) Is Christian Bale in The Machinist. My second favorite is the infamous role Toby Maguire did in Brothers. Less insane, but more... losing sanity.
lmao "dorthy was knocked out by a hurricane"
Didn't know hurricanes can hit KANSAS Toto
great video!, I always find myself learning or seeing something i didn't knew about a movie I've watched or finding out great "new" movies by watching your stuff; really would love if u made one about city of god (cidade de deus), one of my favorites, mainly because it portraits insanely well the reality of the favelas in my country too.
Amazing to hear! Cidade de deus is such an amazing movie. Perhaps I could make a video about it in the future 🙏
I'm extremely shocked that Pearl portrayed by Mia Goth wasn't mentioned because that was an amazing portrayal of Acting Insane
Huge respect for putting the ad at the end. First ad in a long time that I didn’t skip
The FX series LEGION is a show case for everything mentioned. It’s beyond amazing! I’ve never been shocked by how beautiful, scary, suspenseful and well shot the show it. It has some fantastic acting, directing, music and I can’t say enough about. FX LEGION
Legion is _so_ good. Thanks for reminding me it's out there, gonna rewatch it over the holidays :D
I did enjoy the video, and seeing the various depictions of insanity in fiction, but the title did make me believe it was going to explore more of how actors portray specific characters in different ways.
i think its interesting how attracted we are to films like that
I disagree on the Shining bit because it shows that Jack was abusive the whole time and he was also a raging alcoholic who went several months sober so it's not necessarily the isolation alone that got him
Brad Pitt‘s best roles are the ones where he plays a person who is insane
Film Name? I can't find it
@@DetoxLowkey you can’t find a film that he is in where he is not all right in the head? There are lots. You’re not looking very well.
@@Oliviux78 the one with Bruce willis
@@DetoxLowkey Yes. You’re talking about the movie 12 Monkeys. There’s also Fight Club, Snatch, Kalifornia, and Too Young To Die. Plus he’s great at playing a bad boy like in Thelma and Louise, Inglourious Basterds, he gets a bit wild in Legends Of The Fall, Oceans Eleven, etc. He’s played other good roles where he’s not necessarily the bad guy, but it’s a dark setting like in the movie Seven. I really don’t like his action movies
Except Metro Man.
Great video but just one thing, I felt like the pacing was a bit fast, a bit more depth for each movie would be amazing!
There is something captivating in these kind of movies i liked almost every movie that you mentioned here, such a strong list. But Shutter Island remains one of the greatest movie that i ever watched, its one of those when you have your jaw wide open at the end of it... Surely top 3 in my list.
In Wizard of Oz Dorothy is knocked out by a tornado, not a hurricane.
Jacob's Ladder and The Fisher King deserve a mention here, I think.
“Directors love crazy characters!” Me, an aspiring director: “why, yes!”
i love this video please make more!!! your channel is awesome
that google angle thing is cool, even just looking at the page makes me disorientated
I've rewatched this video like 6 times now, a masterpiece honestly.
🙏🙏👑
According to me the most underrated example would be Paul Hackett from After hours by Martin Scorsese. He went insane due to situational reasons.
The greatest masterpieces of all time that have stood the test of time and always will.🙏
Thank captain obvious
5:22 aw man, the Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman fans in me are sad you didn't use that version of this story
"Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?"
Great piece … actually got a shock seeing that sequel to wizard of oz , but hadn’t seen it since childhood … must look it up.
I like how you took the mental illness route with Donnie Darko, it's only when I watched it as an adult did I even think to imagine that it could all be in his head. As an edgy teenager when I first saw it I could only view it through the lens of Donnie is right, and the adults are wrong. It's somewhat ruined by the directors cut that dives further into the tangent universe idea and the other rules for time travel. But it's a great and contradictory exercise into the idea of the death of the author, since we have 2 versions of the film that offer up wildy different interpretations.
this was one of the only videos i was 100% invested in for some reason
"Made it Ma, Top of the world" ~ James Corgney. White-Heat...!!!
Very interesting. I am late commenting on this because earlier this year I spent a couple months in psychiatric institutions. Initially admitted to a specialist eating disorders unit, but due to my addiction to prescription medication (which I had been using to manage my symptoms) escalated out of control I was transferred to a general acute station where the environment was completely different. I did not know about shock corridor effect but describes very accurately what heppened to me and what I observed happening to other patients also. The external environment (bars on windows, being woken up several times each night by the nurses shining a flashlight on one's face and sometimes additionally by the sounds of screaming and banging noises is enough, but that is just the baseline. There are plenty more stress layers) combined with one's internal environment, which is already sub-optimal if one is in an institution, is the perfect storm for deterioration of one's mental well-being. Conditioning to such environments happens very quickly. I came out as a shell of my former self, I was detoxed from the meds but my physical and psychological condition was even worse than it had been on admission and some of my newly-acquired symptoms resembled several other psychiatric disorder but I have since been diagnosed with PTSD. I am receiving ongoing treatment for this but I am glad to say I am doing better now. It has taken a lot of fortitude, but alone I don't believe even that would have been enough. I don't think I could be where I am today without the support of good friends and family. I'd seen a couple of these movies before, but after real-life experience/exposure what strikes me about these characters to be so accurate are subtle nuances to body language and facial expressions; and finally I will say that to circle back round to the shock corridor effect I can absolutely see how that can so easily happen.
Lol, thinking back to The Wizard of Oz with that old time acting Dorothy really does seem to have a few screws loose lol Like if you met someone talking like that it would atleast make you uncomfortable.
This was incredibly instresting to watch such a good video
eeeehhhhh I mostly agree with you apart from the American Psycho part. The point was definitely not that he was going insane, but that the world around him was insane for either ignoring/dismissing/covering-up his acts of brutality for the sake of superficial virtue. But I would say this confusion comes from the film being strangley and unintenentionally ambiguous in the way that it was edited. The director has been quite clear that the inference to Bateman's insanity is a mistake
Agreed. An interesting viewpoint on American psycho is that in the end, when Patrick informs his fellow businessman that he killed Paul and the man responds that he couldn’t as he had dinner with him, it’s not because Patrick was hallucinating it. It’s because all of these men are so incredibly self absorbed that they wouldn’t even notice who they’re dining with. Either way, this is a well made video, but all these people who are so intent on imagining that any violent character or any character experiencing bizarre things is just insane annoy me. Incredibly boring!
Your videos are incredible!
Ah so a list for movies I should watch, great thank you :D
Brad Pitt didn't actually won an Oscar for 12 Monkeys. He was nominated, but Kevin Spacey was in the same category and won for The Usual Suspects.
He won an oscar for Supporting actor
@@DuCinema1 He was nominated
@@vishaldinesh I used a clip of him getting the oscar at the end of the video haha
He won the golden globe award for 12 monkeys, not the Oscar. He won an Oscar for 12 years a slave and once upon a time in Hollywood.
Jake Gyllenhaal does insane so well it scares me lol
Main reason for wanting to get into acting for me
the best performance regarding mental illness i have seen on screen is probably Joaquin Phoenix in the Joker. He captured it very well
@6:40 A lot of hurricanes in Kansas when the world was black and white (sepia and white technically).
Thank you for the content, it's very entertaining and informational! 😇
Yo that Dutch Angle google search idea was top notch.
Damn i thought this vid had 500k+ views. Although it was only released 10 days ago, these numbers don't do it justice. The content alone is outstanding. This channel deserves better.
Thank you so much man, perhaps it's the title or the thumbnail. Who knows, maybe it does well later 🙏🙏
Missed opportunity to add "Girl, Interrupted"
This is such a well made video
Am I insane, or have I seen this before?
@J Griffin It's a re-edit due to some KZhead issues. In other words you might have. As have I. We're not going insane 😂
Could you please make a list of the movies you analyze in the description😁
It's in the top comment
@@DuCinema1 lol!🫣
fantastic video man
Blue Jasmine is one of my favourites like Cate Blanchett is so amazing and sublime
Meme’s existed prior to us calling them “memes”. The very first time I saw Seven, I knew “What’s in the box?” would live beyond the movie In fact, I find it hilarious when my kids say something like, “What’s in the box?” Then get surprised that I know what’s going on. I’ve shown them where some things REALLY originated from (Big Hint: NOT Tik Tok) and they’re even More amazed. Side Note: I appreciate each “age” or “era” my kids are in for various reasons. Like now they’re having their own opinions in things. Some are similar to mine and some are not. However, now when I don’t know something or don’t agree, they’re ok with it and they will enjoy a quick 2mn history of a meme vs where they just left “ugh, all adults are so stupid”. Of course, they still think I’m weird or lame for this or that but they don’t care anymore. They’re not embarrassed by it
Insane = In sane.
Thank you for the knowledge about the “Dutch angle” google search
In the Wizard of Oz, Dorothy isn't knocked out by a hurricane. Remember she is in Kansas in the United States where the correct name is tornado.
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy…
1984
interesting that the actors featured are the best to ever do it
The fact that I looked up "dutch angle" on google as soon as it was mentioned, and didn't even notice it tilted the screen, then when he mentions it again at 1:36 I went and googled it again just to check
hahaha
You should have mentioned/shown Mr. Robot
My Goood did you just say Holy Motors? Probably my craziest filmexperience, I love it so mich and nooobody talks about it! Big ups!
Yuuppp🙏🙏
My experience with actorz & film makerz leads me to believe that performing " sanity " maybe the bigger on screen challenge.
Great Video Man !!
This video deserves millions of views. Excellent content!
A masterful video, well done
thank u for the final key.
Which Papillon movie did you use for the list, the 1973 one, or the 2018 one? I want to add it to my list but don't know which to watch. Great list!! And fun fact, I'm a photographer that loves to use dutch angle in my photography xD I never knew the real backstory behind the shot, I just like the effect.
@:05😂 . SUBBED ‼️ Christian Bale as American Psycho to Batman vs Heath Leadger [joker] :chefs kiss:
7:00 My personal favourite of in trope is the movie Sucker Punch. I was obsessed with this movie for a few months and I've had a big crush for one specific character. I think Sucker Punch is an underrated movie bc many people didn't understand the movie. They think that this movie is just sexy girls in fighting sequences combined with some confusing scenes in an asylum.
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
Another movie that could be added is The Machinist. Great movie.
My fav mad character is F Murray Abraham’s Salieri, in “Amadeus.” He won an Oscar for that role.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Jacob's Ladder, fantastically depicting PTSD
great video but on 2:30 didnt the 2019 Joker took more insporation from King of comedy then taxi driver?
this was recommended for me and i think i know why
4:13 Might I ask what somg is playing in the background? I hear it all the time but I just don't know what it's called
Flower Duet Lakmé
@@DuCinema1 Thanks for the reply, man!
Dorothy in the wizard of oz did not get hit by a hurricane... It took place in Kansas, and there was no rain. It was a tornado.
Can you please tell me the name of the move where there is remi malik in it i couldn't find it
It is Papillon (the newer version)
Well sort of. Psychosis is tough and is can be very scary when you don't know what it is and it is constant. It is tough as a young child as few have it or relate to it and no one can really help you. You can get high to feel better with some things, but it costs and it is not a good answer. Current medicine doesn't really help it and you can feel costs. What is the purpose to acting tricked or playing to the script. So you blend in with people that don't know about it. You play to someones acting. It is easy. It is a lot like talking to regular people that just lie. Why go through a long term thing when calling out and acting like you were fooled by previous conversations. Because the call out was so delayed, people would flex and gloat and feel safe when I was calling out. It was a theory to help people get into position and see who was talking about it and laughing at it. A lot of people wanted to be in my position (im here, i dont have one) and be in line for training / to be the head of the market / intel. They would feel proud that they were able to trick a person that showed a lot of potential and skill early on. As if their skills increased and my diminished. Intel is a large group. It has a small group dominating the direction and forcing others to maintain their system even though it is obsolete. It is not the most economical. They know this but changing it and even having them go into a successful business venture and remain there would cause them to lose power. They leverage that power over others for profits, with ups and downs, buyins in different ways that cause they to profit huge. They do this with threat and perceived threat and stay due to the no call out system. Most people don't see it. You only get a fraction of what is there when you go to the eye. I know it is known as an international hub for intel, but it doesn't depict the gravity of what is out there a lot of people are paid to keep silent and only a few have seen what actual happens. Some businesses are onboard but most are just in the mind set of, my competitor is here, there are good deals here, we need it to remain competitive. The system can be changed there without them and still affordable as there is an epic shitton of loss as the cost for the infrastructure to support it is huge. It is supplemented by the power position people have over others in industry. So it is shit for industry in more than one way.
I've had psychosis since birth. People there know. I've had some practice acting and such..you know..a little here and there. not to brag or anything. I went through schools and work without any questions and in good standing. I remembered all this without writing anything down ever. Maybe it is all ok..i dont know someone give me validation.. pleasE?
Imagine finding out I've been an assassin. Like wtf? Is that real? No way! Him?! I don't see that at all? Nah, he is crazy. I don't believe this. Other people have seen it in person? he has done it with celebs? is that real too? but he was so dorky outside of it. noo no I dont believe He said he was a virgin. how can an assassin be a virgin? no
Great vid❤
Sean Patrick Flanery in Nefarious. Do it
T'Nia Miller as Victorine LaFourcade in Fall of the House of Usher. The last scene she's in is unbelievably good.
heath ledger as well
Eu sou fã de todos os filmes citados.
Dorothy was knocked out by a “twister a twister!” Not a hurricane. Don’t mean to be pedantic. But a tornado is just way too different from a hurricane to not correct.
What makes a character really insane is the ability to stop being human. For me Jakes performance in Nightcrawler and Javier bardems in no country for old men take the cake. I still remember how scared I felt during the scene in No country for old men. Anton chigur flips the coin to decide the old man's fate.
Does someone have a list of all those movies by title? Thanks