HEAR HISTORY: Supreme Court hears Donald Trump’s Jan. 6th immunity claim | MSNBC
The Supreme Court is hearing arguments in Donald Trump’s broad presidential immunity claim. The arguments focus on Trump's criminal charges over his attempt to overturn the 2020 election results and whether they should be dismissed based on that broad claim of immunity. The decision could impact Trump’s criminal trial in Washington, D.C., the criminal classified documents case in Florida and the election interference criminal trial in Georgia.
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#SupremeCourt #DonaldTrump #PresidentialImmunity
Are we really debating whether or not a president can do whatever he wants? This is insane and a waste of time.
It SHOULD be a waste of time....but deplorable MAGA cult members are trying...and may succeed due to Trumps corrupt SCOTUS new hires....to CHANGE the law...for PURELY PARTISAN reasons
It seems like that’s the point…
That's the point. Delay. Cohn tactic
This is not insane. This is another challenging case brought before the Supreme Court that requires an actual LAW to be written before a case can be argued in front of lower courts. Standard American Operating Procedure. Now…A president bringing it to this point is insane. I think that’s what you meant.
@@timothyallen4144 agreed
This is a waste of time! This country is not a monarchy, a president is not a king. In a democratic republic, nothing is above the law. SCOTUS, enough of your drama and circus
😊 I understand you.
Exactly mate, I think you nailed the point.
They hafta wait for Ginni,for Pete's sake!
This man hiding the truth he is going around to polish things he must go home and listen to hissejf
Yes, this whole presidential immunity case is ridiculous. No president or any person should be the only person that doesn't have to abide by the law or be above the law. I can hear Trump now off with their heads!☹️
Thomas Clarence has no credibility
He is required by law to recuse himself because his wife was at the insurrection. Scandalous!
ZERO !
Just make Ketanji the head of the court! She is the only one that cuts through the BS and gets to the point!
Awesome
Remember they changed the ethics code from "Shall"to "Should" disclose so they can have immunity from their own prosecutions. This has nothing to do with the protection of the people or the constitution. Billionaires bought Clearance Thomas.
Do we protect 1 man or do we protect democracy?
"The needs of the many out weigh the needs of few, or the one." ~Mr. Spock
Democracy!
@@captainkirk4514
As always, well said Captain. 🫡
Tough decision since that 1 man is so amazing.....NOT! Give me a break! Where was this Trump attorney when Bill Clinton had his affair with Monica (crickets). It's clear he is a Republican stooge!
Listening to Sauer's voice is as irritating as listening to trumps voice.
@@MansfieldDeathtrapRereco-😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
MTG and Comer's voice also annoying 😊
And lil Wayne's 😂😂😂
Jon Polito (no offence, Mr Polito)
Doesn’t he sound like a chronic smoker who chases each drag with a shot of whiskey? Wouldn’t be surprised if he had polyps on his vocal cords.
This whole exercise is disgusting. The big orange liar is guilty as sin. He's not immune from anything. The claim is absurd. His attorney should be disbarred. What in the world is going on here?
This is trying to set up victory by getting everything their way, by means of a technicality. It is a disgusting perversion of governance.
I can't believe this is where my tax dollars are being spent....
Tax dollars in Ukraine or Israel? Just not on America
All this because a grown man couldn’t bear the idea that he came in second!
Exactly.
We've allowed billionaires such carte blanche that they literally want to become supervillains.
Coming in second You get the "Silver medal" what's wrong with that. Even coming in last, At least you were in the race.
Old Don's been a big fat loser since he was a teen learning how to grift. I'm glad justice and karma are finally catching up now!
Exactly
There’s no reason for the Supreme Court to even hear this ridiculous argument!
The reason is trump nothing else.
Exactly!! It's so ridiculous.
You are correct, every president in history has had presidential immunity, should not even be in court, how do you think the Clintons got away with all of their terrible crimes, they used it for crimes they committed before he was president also, and that was against the law in itself, and it's only supposed to be for presidential decisions, not murder and stuff like that.
Supreme Court Justices delay and delay and the long run they exempt Trump from liability!
You are correct, this is ridiculous, every president in our history have had presidential immunity, we have three presidents still living that have committed treason and illegally used this immunity to not pay the price for their crimes, President TRUMP has committed no such crimes, can you name a crime President TRUMP has committed?
I disagree that Ford's pardon of Nixon is viewed as a good decision, figuratively or historically. Nixon should have been prosecuted!!!
💯% CORRECT!!!! It was an obstruction of justice and lead us here.
Or at least, NOT pardoned. That was a bad move.
@princessofarchetypes3870 It set a precedent: "healing" (i.e. giving corruption a pass) over justice and a "nation of laws". It's what led us here.
@@emilmedellin4525 good point. I think that the "pardoning" by Ford led to him NOT getting re-elected.
Of course he should have. But if presidents had immunity, there would have been no reason to pardon him. That's the insane thing.
I like Justice Sotomayor ….. and Justice Jackson
Just remember...If Trump has absolute immunity then so does President Biden
Fascist Biden already does. He’s deemed too old to prosecute
But Biden won’t cancel,elections and fire Supreme Court
The commentator is Jordan goofball. All he does is talk talk
Actually it doesn’t. Because Trump was president when he took the documents. Biden wasn’t.
I would much rather see Biden as our next dictator! Wouldn’t you?!!!
Can’t believe they are even hearing this!!!
It'll be a good thing if they decide decisively that there's no immunity since it'll make it settled law. Of course, if they decide there is immunity, we'll basically become a banana republic.
The activist court do what they need to do, in order to push it all past November.
If they do, Biden becomes king. Trump isn't president and won't be again.
@zolo49noname45 settled law like roe?
Doesn't fit your narrative? Cope.
This is the worst of the worst...to see the US Supreme Court sliding to end justice for a criminal. I am sickened. Vote Blue all the Way 💙
I agree. Send him to jail
I really appreciate Justice Jackson and how concisely she makes intricate points.
You should go read her opinion case where Clinton took classified documents and kept them in his sock drawer!
The only one who makes sense is Justice Jackson.
She's very adept at clearing away the underbrush, and identifying the essence of the arguments
No one is above the law
...except Hunter Biden....
so they say - but Trump was just named an unindicted co-conspirator in Arizona election fraud. If they have enough evidence to name him an unindicted co-conspirator they have enough evidence to indict him.
This about them stalling hoping Trump wins.
(MAGA)many are getting arrested
Trump seems to be😢😢😢
Trump is the reason we should have no Presidential Immunity...
Precisely!
Absolutely!!!
And NO Democratic President has ever needed, nor asked for immunity. Leave it to crooked Trump and his lawless cult R's to even need immunity for anything and everything! They don't govern, they create chaos 24-7. And then want legal cover when they get busted! 😂
Exactly this right here!
A thoughtful and convincing point.
Kavanagh wants immunity for Trump. What a joke!
Kavanagh wants TRUMP to be a Dictator. America, how did it come to this?
Well, it's certainly "transactional."
OMG, just NO. The president, past or present, does NOT have immunity from criminal acts! Stupid waste of time and money.
You determined this on your own? So you don't have blue hair ans you can define what a woman is? That could be start to your TDS cure
Sauer, sorry, but ur client should be in prison
Thanks to old dad Fred. He taught him how to be the Criminal he is Today. Considering trumpee plays the ultimate victim he can blame this all own his own father since he will never admit his own fault.
While absolutely true, Sauer is being paid only to argue presidential immunity whether he believes it or not. He's reaching far and wide for anything as a defense, which isn't working and is why he's running in circles. If Sauer fails here, Trump loses all future arguments that anything he did as President was official business. Sauer knows it's an impossible task to win this.
Not sorry
If the justices give the president immunity then it could quite literally mean their own heads could be on the block.
I agree with that
Good thing no MAGA supporter has ever voted against their own, best interests.
@@CicadaSong576Haven't they? Sarcasm?
I'm voting for Biden but I don't think he would do anything to them...
Exactly, and Biden could order their dismissal lol
Not one of the other presidents ever talked about this. Only reason he's begging for court to save his butt so he won't be held accountable for crimes he committed... this is just a waste of time and his lawyer should be ashamed of himself what a joke
You and Bidumb are the real joke. You must be one the uneducated people Trump referred to
How ridiculous to expect the president to first be impeached before prosecution..
What if congress wanted to help overthrow the government? They wouldn't convict? Then what? We lose our country to an authoritarian? NOPE NOPE NOPE
Common sense is not part of the legal system in the United States. Leave it to educated people.
Sauer's arguments are pathetic, straight from the mind of Trump.
He has an audience of one.
@@mrkdrm NOT true... He has the TDS crowd here on MSDNC giving him a HUGE audience! Derp
@@sayhisnamelibsDJT24He's a frog of a lawyer
It's a reach by a person who is highly paid to argue this case
What mind.. 🤦🏻♀️💙
Thank you MSNBC for providing this. Unless people in a democracy stay engaged we will not have one.
Not voting blue is a great start.
Disturbing that Justice Thomas didn't excuse himself
I find it disrespectful-- and it has a certain Trumpian disdain for humanity.
Trump 4 Prison
You’ll probably be saying that for another 8 years.
TDS is a lifelong condition. You have a long way to go there, chief.
So Biden can go ahead and do what your orange buffoon did and is doing? How about Hunter getting 2 billion dollars. 😅😅😅😂😂@@sayhisnamelibsDJT24
❤This is why America is in trouble. From what I am hearing and understanding "people's argument form mental judgement, hatred, and party... But don't trust don't respects don't have and keeps morality in the Highest Court!!!❤
Justice Kagan is an American with brain cells, thank God.
Unbelievable! How did we even get to this place?!
sorry but a lot of Americans vote republican.😮💨
Vote better and this won't ever become an American nightmare.
Sauer's voice should be criminal.
Right??? It’s just like nails on a chalkboard. Or road rash!!
He sounds like Marje Simpson. Christ such a grinding voice. It totally hurts my ovaries (If I had ovaries!!)
Like RFK jr
@@THATBOISHAD 😂Yes indeed 😂 I meant to post, could you imagine being stuck in a room with both of them? Dear God, a fate worse than death!! 🤘☘️🤘
😂@@seanmcgeeney4570
No one is above the law. Pure and Simple.
Joe & Hunter are for sure. I forgot about Hillary & Barry. FJB
@@donlittle5655 show the evidence.
@@donlittle5655how many crimes have any of them been charged with/convicted of? None? How about Don Snorleone?
@@donlittle5655.😂😂😂 more smoking guns???? 😂😂😂
@@donlittle5655 You need help.
There's only one reason that the court, chose to hear this case. To delay the outcome of the trials. If a ruling is not immediate, then they need to be removed. Without a question we need term limits for the bench.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Term limits retroactively.
This is insane that this was even taken this far.
Sauers moronic circular argument is like watching a snake eating itself
Dear SCOTUS, In the court of public opinion, you are judged compromised.
Good thing the founding fathers didn’t care about the court of public opinion.
You're public opinion isn't needed! That's the problem with you democrats. Thinking everyone wants to hear your nonsense!
Three of them are bent. Expanding the Court could save the country.
It's nonsense the SCOTUS even took this case to begin with.
That lawyers voice is so hard to listen to that I can’t believe he’s a lawyer.
Why this is even being taken seriously?
Because they owe Trump. At least three of them do.
Because Trump is the false god of the ⚪ man.
I listened for 5 minutes. I heard enough. I can’t believe the Supreme Court is even considering giving immunity to Trump.
Why fascist?
@@Americasinertiafucking end it mate
@@Americasinertia define fascist.
The fact that even Clarence Thomas question the premise is promising, though.
@Americasinertia 😂😂wow, you're so ignorant 😂😂😂
Guys like Sauer are the reason that people hate lawyers
W o O w! Justice Alito raised my brow with his overt, extreme conservative examination and possible support for the ridiculous request before him. Trump is asking for permission to abuse the powers of the president of these United States. Powers, mind you, that are given by the people of these United States; not the Supreme Court.
Alito himself Is an abusive power
Supreme court justices should have a term limit!
Because things aren't going along with your narrative? DERP
100% There should be term limits for every office held. Including the local dog catcher! New ideas, progress, progressive policy ideas, and policies should not be allowed to go stale in any office or business.
LIKE THE PRESIDENCY>>>>>>
@@rameshpersaud187 Huh? The Presidency already has term limits. TWO terms. The LOSER of an election NEEDS to graciously accept his LOSS, give a brief speech, and step down! NOT hold an INSURRECTION and attempt to stay in after we FIRED HIM BIGLY! ☑
@@triciasingleton8800There is no democratic country without limits for such offices. US have to have something special (like inches, feet or galons - no other country except for two 3rd world countries. Can you say how many 345 cubic feet is cubic inches, without usage of a calculator) In decimal system I can transfer any unit, just add zeros 1km (kilo means thousand) = 1000m = 100 000cm (centi means hundred 1$=100 cents) = 1000 000 mm mili like million). I love how they refer to Jefferson, Washington etc. Your system of justice and democracy is ridiculous. Undemocratic voting system. To register yourself, so you can vote. Anywhere else where is democracy, every adult gets in their post box envelope with voting leaves, each party has one with names of candidates. With your laws and constitution you live in 18th and 19th century. When do you take voting right from women and people of colour will be slaves again? You're really making America great again. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Our supreme court does not create laws just solves court appeals, do not create laws. Our jurisdical system is not based on stare decisis like in US. We also don't have jury with 11 jurors. Just two jurors that with a judge decide about guilt. There is always some decision - 2 vs 1 or all 3 decided the same. Supreme court judge's term is 10 years.
If not for Justice Jackson, I would think all will be lost...Kavanaugh, with his brainless red cheek beer banter, and Thomas dumb as a post, GOP trump appointees are scared that they too will face impeachment for their crimes...as they should.
Well if these judges find he has immunity, then they would have immunity for their corruption. When are these judges who committed crimes of bribery?
if dems get the house and the senate they may impeach these fools
She's the dumbest of them all. Angry black lady studdering to ask questions
Oh shut up. You just afraid that democrats won’t be able to break the constitutional law this country holds
@@diannadima7082 That looks to be the plan. Money is speech. Corporations are people. Bribery needs to be explicitly stated as such. Now this. Legalized crime.
Justice Alito, does the oath the President takes mean nothing?
I think based on what Justice Jackson said throughout the arguments, it's implied that she at least, voted against hearing the immunity case, or at least voted against waiting until late April to hear the case. Would you agree with me there?
Justices Sotomayor, Jackson, and Kagan (possibly Barrett) understand, and care about the future of the Court and the ramifications of any missteps. (Seems the only case Thomas has any interest in is Mongoose. It was horrifyingly wrong, historically unforgivable, and a terrible injustice, but it's 2024, sir. Time to move on,.)
These woman judges are amazing
This is a good indication that women have to be 100 times smarter to rise to the same level as men.
Accountability doesn't distort a leader's thinking unless they had nefarious intentions to begin with. Case closed, Trump you lose. Go home everyone... hey, not you Trump, go straight to jail, it's that time.
Exactly, Sauer is in Trumps pocket. He keeps going around in circles but Sotomyer is wise
Well past time.
As Jimmy Kimmel has said, "Isn't it past your jail time?"
SAY IT OUT LOUD! 👍
Justice Alito is such a fraud. He does not want to discuss the specifics of this a case but wants to expound upon generalities?🙄
He's busily opining, as is Kavanaugh. One might assume they're opining on their respective fates.
I haven't heard Justice Thomas asking the special council any questions 🤔 😕 🙄 😐
He grumbles about Mongoose for a while, then naps. Recusal would be more apt.
the fact that they're even attempting this case is annoying, so i'm not surprised that 45 picked the lawyer with the world's most annoying voice to have the discussion
2nd most annoying voice. RFK Jr. tops this guy.
Heh !
OMG, trump’s lawyer are arguing stupidity and their voices sound like cartoon characters
Only to the one's that their narrative isn't being upheld! 👍💯🇺🇸
This is Blah Blah Blah. The American people will sort this simply and quickly when voting on the 5th November. Then Mr Trumps attorneys can fight over this for the rest of his private citizen life.. Have faith in the people.. Unfortunately this is tainting the Supreme Courts relevance...
It's interesting to see when Thomas and Kavanaugh chose to speak. Definitely know where they seem to stand. No one should be above the law. The nerve that he's actually asking the Supreme Court to give him immunity is insane.
This was solved in England in1649 when king charles i,was convicted in a charge of treason and making war on the English people and parliament.. Charles claimed he had Devine right to act in any way he wanted to preserve his rights to monarchy. He was executed 30 January 1649 . No one is above the law.
And in doing so they ended up with an even greater tyrant
The very system this country fought so hard to break away from
More law and precedent. Funny how they go way back for abortion but not for this!
When Donald Trump asked to inject people with bleach would that be considered in his official capacity?
Go back and listen to that press conference. Trump never used the word bleach.
Sauer’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard.😮
This court is one of if not the greatest threat we have
Put Trump in prison immediately and shut your mouth....
Awe! Is someone's narrative not being upheld? 🤣
@@keepingit8797You must be confused.
@@larindanomikos 🤣 Yeah ok, spoon fed!
Agreed
@@keepingit8797 ok Boris ok
Jan 6 was outrageous!!
It was unforgivable and so was the stolen top secret classified document scandal. To let DT back into power would be pure insanity!
Where you there?
Thanks msnbc - nice production of this audio only hearing - easier to stay engaged 🎉 perfect ❣️
if they side with mr trump on this there will be no rule of law anymore
it's hard to believe the supreme court is entertaining immunity for anyone who didn't negotiate it in court thru a guilty plea. We live in strange times
This dude doesn't believe his own BS that he's spewing from his mouth!
He's laughing about how ridiculous it sounds. Just buying time to run out the clock. That's the goal.
The visuals are done well. This is good content.
If u have full immunity wouldnt impeachment be pointless?
Yes, please give Biden complete immunity.
Look all this Trump has done to this country
Negative things
it will be the first chapter in the book "Americans Downfall: How an Empire fell".
2024 Trump❤
He has torn it to pieces.
You really don't get it! How can one person bring down a whole nation? No, one particular person can't, not unless the people of that nation give into the one person ideology. You need to do the research on social,cultural and political ideologies works.
If whoever it is, if you break the law, a SERIOUS law you are indicted and tried. No way can a president pardon himself or he/she would have free reivn to do ANYTHING.
Imperative that common sense, logic, and the law prevail and that one man's dishonesty not interfere with democracy and tarnish the country's reputation.
This case might not be the best time for Clarence Thomas to learn to ask questions. Why is the husband of Ginny Thomas part of this process at all?
Because, unlike you, THEY are above the law.
Because he is a stupid shameless individual.
Ginny Thomas should be charged for Treason and the insurrection of the Government
Because Americans have forgotten how to protest!
Alito seems to be siding with and parroting the words of ConMan Trump .
He could be the lone dissenter.
Him and Thomas are the most paid for justices. I would be surprised if they voted for the American people on any case.
Of course he is.
Well of course he would he is corrupt
Yep, Alito, the "I know it all" on abortion rights.
Sauer claims makes it less clear and not more clear about the understanding of the law. The common understanding is made with common sense. Totally lacking here
Supreme court should be the same 4 Dem and 4 Rep maybe 1 Independent or just 8 Judges. How can this be fair 6R / 3D ..
And the Republicans manipulated at least 2 options away from Obama.
I'm sick of hearing that nasty voice of Sauer from second one.....fingernails on a chalkboard.
More like rug burns and road rash!
I hope and pray they don’t let their corruption get in the way of doing the ONLY SANE thing
Unfortunately, corruption is the job of SCOTUS. Listen to Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)!
Corruption has no sanity.
Never underestimate the power of corruption.
The judge’s daughter will make millions $$ IF TRUMP IS CONVICTED! Corruption at its finest! Trump is not running against Biden, he’s running against the deep state, uni-party, FBI, CIA, Obama, elites, and Marxist media like MSNBC and CNN. (The propaganda arm for the deep state!)
So, the argument is that because other criminals got away with serious felonies in the past that criminals should continue to get away with serious felonies in the future. That seems like an exceptionally poor argument.
You can tell by their questions.... they want 1 reason to find him immune. Corruption at its core.
Sadly enough you might be correct. If so, America is not a Democracy but a Banana Republic. Also, the list of Republicans asking for a Presidential pardon after January 6 is sickening. They should be jailed.
@@donquixote1502 some state just declared a confederate day as statutory holiday? That's insanity. They want pardons, because they know the prison system is just another form of slavery. Laws for some and not for others.
The female Justices are taking this seriously, and with the probable conflict Ms.Amy sees down the road, I think she's on the line (as in tennis.)
I can’t even believe that we are depending on these supremes to do the right thing … we’ll see
What is up with these lawyers' voices?
Someone give this guy a glass of water, please! 😂
Supreme Court may earn lots of respect back from the people by holding Trump accountable.
Key word: May
The Extreme court lost a LOT of credibility when they handed the WH to Bush, and when they tossed out Roe. The crooked R's Kavanaugh & Thomas both need to be REMOVED and replaced by good progressives. President Biden's choices would be a HUGE improvement.
Democracy is on.the Docket...Let's protect it!
Not really, this is so ridiculous and easy. no credit for the bare minimum. they are slow walking it to benefit dumpy as much as possible.
Accountable for what?
America is at a sad point in this world There is no justice in America Supreme justice is sad and broken You wonder why the whole world is LAUGHING at us and doesn't have any respect for America We can not tell another country how to run there country cuz we can't run our own country so we need to just hush
I have a little news for you. It’s the democrats that made every country laugh at america
Sounds like the guy is breathing from a helium balloon every time before he speaks.
when you work for T-crumpet, first your voice goes and then your mind.🤯
So why did Nixon need a pardon ?? A president shouldnt be conducting illegal acts..period.!!!
If the supreme Court rules in trumps favor there is a huge lack of a moral compass in our country and I don't have any faith in the justice system anymore
That was already the case, when the SCOTUS decided to hear this, delaying it as late as possible. The revelations of Clarence Thomas’s corruption, his insurrectionist wife; Roe vs Wade, the extreme right wing partisanship of this court, should have destroyed your confidence, a long time ago.
You mean if you don't agree with the SCOTUS, you lose faith in the justice system. In NY, the justice system has released countless criminals who commit murder hours to days after being released, and you agree with that? Obviously, so because you still have faith in the justice system!! But this, this would be the deciding factor, huh?
Then President Biden could order the killing of Donald and be immune
Every president in history has had immunity, how do you think the Clintons have gotten away with their terrible crimes, and it's not supposed to be for terrible personal crimes, murder and stuff like that, but it seemed to work for the Clintons.
Considering their questions, I don't think they will lol
If the Supreme Court gives Trump a pass, letting him get away with these crimes. Couldn't Joe Biden dismiss Supreme Court members who let Trump get away. Maybe we should have a twelve member Supreme Court.
Yes. The only real check/balance that the executive has on the courts is to either ignore them (dangerous, possibly impeachable) OR to "pack the court" by appointing more Justices. That is a very slippery slope but yes that is Biden's last tool available
Wow that is a interesting question. Because I feel the same way. The president is our major guard rail from Democary and Facism. 😊
Here's a thought. If defendant Trump is given absolute immunity, then President Biden would automatically have absolute immunity. And SEAL team 6 now comes into play, and further trials, as well as the election in Nov, other than lower offices, is now moot.
He definitely could the same rules would apply for Biden but their so smart that they are dumb
EXACTLY!🤬🤬🤬
right there, the opening statements: "OFFICIAL ACTS" trying to subvert the transfer of power is NOT an official act.
There’s no law that says a transfer of power has to be peaceful. Just because it’s customary.
@@daveharvey5764 Why SHOULDN'T it be peaceful? Wouldn't that mean whoever is delaying it is doing something they shouldn't?
@@daveharvey5764that is how things work in a democracy. Candidates who lost have the right to contest the results in courts. If they lose in court, then it is clear that they didn't have the votes to win. Trump lost in courts. He should have accepted the results of the election. He did not and tried to stay in power by breaking the law.
Why isn’t Neal Katyal pleading this case and stopping this INSANITY!??😠😡🤬
Maybe he'll be one of eleven, as should be Andrew Weissmann. It's a long, slow slog. Baby steps.
Those who created this system of prevention didnt fathem a crime with such depth of destruction to our whole democratic process.
that's right nobody above the law
I'm out of breath listening to Sauer's rough ranting. Legally wrong is wrong. Legally right is right. Characterized statements of character, end up being caricatured!
Under the American Constitution, even the president is equal before the law. To bend that would give the mentally ill Trump absolute power and rights. If the US Supreme Court were to do this, ``America would no longer be a democratic country.''
The American People say he is guilty and he does not have Presidential Immunity.. Vote Blue. Be true to Nation our Freedom and our Democracy.
Alito bending over backwards to help the criminal.
A pardon proves guilt....
ABSOLUTELY
Not to worry - Thomas, Barrett,Gorsuch and Alito will do their best to send this to a lower court - they do this to help Trump knowing good and well that it will delay the document case. Indeed they are just blowing hot air - these legal scholars are debating whether someone who is president has total immunity - the answer should be no but they want to muddy the waters with legal BS.
I just can't understand the issue our country is currently facing. Could somebody please explain to me in the simplest way how one individual could have caused our country to be turned upside down like this?
One individual didn't. You are witnessing ⚪ people show you who they really are. They have their evil false god to do their vile deeds under the banner of... But they have *always* been this way. Ever since they first set foot and despoiled these lands with their presence in 1492.
Billionaires monetarily influencing members of our Constitutional checks & balances. The one individual you reference is a bona fide narcissist who serves as the disruptor figurehead leading the clown circus that is merely falling in step with what their billionaire benefactors are directing. As citizens we need to scrutinize this pattern in all political parties. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We need to be looking for public servants and not politicians in every level of government: local, state & national.
His defense Lawyer's argument works in Russia and Korea, not in America! The bad decisions by past Leaders can be subject to accountability if practical. Just because they got away with it doesn't mean it's ok!
True. Stalin bidens America
@@Americasinertia, "try injecting disinfectant" (former Superspreader-in-chief/Insurrectionist-in-Chief) and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!😂
@@AmericasinertiaOnly one president in us history tried to overthrow our free and fair election and it isn't biden.
Dictator... just for one day. A worthy POTUS wouldn't even have brain space that could lead to such a concept. Dictator... for a day... is how it starts, where, we, do not get to finish anything since it means we've lost our Country. It is no longer ours, it belongs to the Dictator and his mooks. Make America Great Again... don't trade our country for an inane slogan coined by an evangelist of criminality.
Trump is garbage
If the courts are honest and true to the EVIDENCE and the LAW and duly and honestly executed at every level, then why should ANY president need special immunity since an honest and just outcome could be expected should ANY president be charges with a crime? Like ANY other “citizen” , NO citizen is ABOVE THE LAW.
Not just a citizen, the once president of the United States