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What Do the BEST Crit Racers Choose?

NorCal Cycling
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  • Correspondents from nearly all the online cycling channels and journalist outfits do something like this especially at the Tour de France when all the new hot tech is released. I always watch those. So I think this is so awesome that you've done this for the domestic scene.

    @MaxwellPowers666@MaxwellPowers6668 ай бұрын

    • This is more interesting to me because bikes are designed around the Tour and those kinds of races, you'll almost never see anyone doing something like a 170mm stem to be in a TT position, because you can't sustain that for 3 weeks. Niche tech is the most interesting stuff.

      @MxCraven@MxCraven8 ай бұрын

    • Thank you Craven, I agree!

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • Surprised legion didn't blacklist you 😛

    @alpd7638@alpd76388 ай бұрын

    • No that was just a minor hiccup.

      @geraldtone5914@geraldtone59148 ай бұрын

    • What happened ?

      @jawaddb8061@jawaddb80618 ай бұрын

    • @jawaddb8061 Jeff did a podcast where he had a few criticisms of Legion. Justin from Legion responded on social media, then Jeff made a video response to that. But nothing too serious.

      @geraldtone5914@geraldtone59148 ай бұрын

    • No, that would be petty, but essentially the words do go back-and-forth we need to 😂

      @octaviakf@octaviakf8 ай бұрын

  • this is awesome content! love seeing what the professionals are doing

    @peterwyckoff@peterwyckoff8 ай бұрын

  • This was very dope. Would love to see even more of these.

    @terrellpickett7904@terrellpickett79048 ай бұрын

    • you got it, editing the next one now..👍

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • Really cool video, would love more of these! I’m an aspiring crit racer and I binge a ton of your videos to build my knowledge. +1 for the long stems! I just put a 140mm zipp sl sprint on my bike and I’m absolutely loving it.

    @Dakota-cz5od@Dakota-cz5od8 ай бұрын

  • Stem longer than the cranks!?😮

    @chupa_mi_dongle@chupa_mi_dongle8 ай бұрын

    • yeah idk about this.. it must change the way the bike handles, but in a crit it might not matter a whole lot.

      @aubreyxengland@aubreyxengland8 ай бұрын

  • Great video, always interesting to see what others are running! Recommend a yearly one at whatever big race you go to!

    @ryandennison7519@ryandennison75198 ай бұрын

  • Whaaaaat! Ma mans is running a crank arm for a stem😢...oh and by the way this was a treat Jeff. Loved it

    @yangmu55a27@yangmu55a278 ай бұрын

    • Glad you enjoyed it!

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • Damn and I am thinking about going from a 110mm stem to a 100mm one :D Crazy how long some of these stems are. Its really interesting how short cranks are becoming more and more popular...

    @st.bimbam@st.bimbam8 ай бұрын

    • What's important is that it fits you and you can put out power. But shorter cranks are really helpful for low positions (as they said in the video, more open hip angle and cornering clearance). They have been fairly popular in the TT/Tri scene for a while

      @okimy3668@okimy36688 ай бұрын

  • I'm looking forward to this new trend of longer stems than your cranks.

    @darthjohn0@darthjohn08 ай бұрын

  • Awesome video. Thanks for doing it. Fun to nerd out on the crit tech since we see so many WT team bikes. Also that 170mm stem. Blimey!

    @mstrasser@mstrasser8 ай бұрын

  • Forgot to ask about tires! brand, width, tube/tubeless Great stuff

    @h4rdcor31@h4rdcor318 ай бұрын

    • I can tell you I’ve sold a pair of Vittoria Corsa NEXT to Sam boardman at the shop, he bought 28s tubeless. Others appear to be racing Pirellis.

      @mattkennedy1203@mattkennedy12038 ай бұрын

    • Working on that edit now, it's coming...

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • You can tell Eamon is used to the camera 100% more then Johnny lol

    @chriswitek9455@chriswitek94558 ай бұрын

    • He’s a natural what can I say

      @Jstarr_97@Jstarr_978 ай бұрын

    • But I had the most fun in the Blazer tent, thanks again Johnny!

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • Love it, thanks for making this video!

    @zorcycle@zorcycle8 ай бұрын

  • Great content thanks for sharing

    @JohnSmith-mt5ok@JohnSmith-mt5ok8 ай бұрын

  • I love these nerdy bike fit videos ❤ keep making these!

    @David-cc3un@David-cc3un8 ай бұрын

  • Eamon seems cool, always liked his riding in some of your older videos 👍🏼

    @nathanphillips875@nathanphillips8758 ай бұрын

    • future guest commentator?

      @biedawo@biedawo8 ай бұрын

  • Love this content, more of it please ❤

    @gangstermonke1@gangstermonke18 ай бұрын

  • this is super awesome. thanks for this video Jeff!

    @StachePower@StachePower8 ай бұрын

    • Glad you enjoyed!

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • Hi Jeff, would love to know what front and rear mounts you recommend for action cameras these days. I know you used a Barfly at one point but it has been a few years. I have standard road bars (no integrated cockpit).

    @robbykanyur@robbykanyur8 ай бұрын

  • Fantastic video! If possibly could you do a video following up on what all stats mean with pro/cons? Thanks!

    @tedwilson2510@tedwilson25108 ай бұрын

  • Love this! So cool to see pros customizing their frames - and being able to hear directly from them. 170 stem x 36 wide! Dang!

    @gregrossolimo4981@gregrossolimo49818 ай бұрын

    • That's near death for me lol

      @florianbusch3082@florianbusch30828 ай бұрын

  • Awesome@!

    @lisashiela9137@lisashiela91378 ай бұрын

  • Very nice people.....willing to teach and share wisdom...thank you so much

    @junomaxzoey5146@junomaxzoey51468 ай бұрын

  • Nice video and insight into the 'Pro' setups... also good to see the out takes with my coach, Jonny Brown.. Lololol

    @thomasjackson4702@thomasjackson47028 ай бұрын

  • The last guy you interviewed was really informative.

    @JesseDishner@JesseDishner8 ай бұрын

  • I'm seeing saddles far forward. Would you say most crit racers ride beyond/in-front of the KOPS position? Great vid and thanks for posting!

    @adamrichter9881@adamrichter98818 ай бұрын

  • Most interesting video. Well, many are interesting but this BTS was really great

    @Digital.Done.Right.@Digital.Done.Right.8 ай бұрын

  • Awesome video, more like this please. 👌🏼

    @franciscoalmonte6953@franciscoalmonte69538 ай бұрын

    • More to come!

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • awesome stuff

    @MaciekSkorko@MaciekSkorko8 ай бұрын

  • Interesting - board man on 165’s! I want to know tires tho! Size? Tubeless? Psi?

    @h20s8804@h20s88048 ай бұрын

  • Great seeing Sam in a vid. He’s the man.

    @randnorberg4518@randnorberg45188 ай бұрын

  • Great video.

    @billkallas1762@billkallas17628 ай бұрын

  • Hell yeah! My 32cm / 150mm stem / 165mm cranks track racing setup is trendy!

    @lolbubs11111@lolbubs111118 ай бұрын

    • ahead of the curve my guy

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

    • Except it's not UCI compliant.

      @Gabrielle4870@Gabrielle48708 ай бұрын

  • Love gear talk 😎

    @LuffLab@LuffLab8 ай бұрын

  • Don't think any of them mention their frame size would have been good to know as most are riding with long stems interested if they've gone down a frame size to do that

    @Paggi10no@Paggi10no8 ай бұрын

  • This was super cool!

    @travisgibbon936@travisgibbon9366 ай бұрын

  • sick video i love it

    @solma1@solma18 ай бұрын

  • Glad to see Time pedals doing some sponsorship. I purchased some on a whim after I had a couple sudden cleat releases on Looks. Great pedal and despite how the cleat looks, they last about 3x as long as Look cleats. It's not a perfect pedal and still recommend Shimano to most people, but as alternative pedal, especially for people that are have cleat position issues, Time is worth a look.

    @echtogammut@echtogammut8 ай бұрын

    • I went back from Time to look after having a couple of unexpected cleat releases on time pedals (Xpresso 7 xarbon). After 3 accident with these I noticed, that the carbon spring deloped a linear crack. And this is sad because I really liked time pedals, great float and feel but I stopped trusting them.

      @michadebicki6534@michadebicki65348 ай бұрын

    • I guess we can't win with any setup. I've been running the XPRO 15 for about 6000 miles and so far (knock carbon) no cracks. I've never done it, but I thinking carbon springs are replaceable (I just may be thinking of my Look blades).@@michadebicki6534

      @echtogammut@echtogammut8 ай бұрын

  • It's great see hear a bit about Eamon Lucas. Ive only been riding a yr and a half. I'm 6'4 and 200lbs with 8-10lbs to lose. Nice to know us taller heavier guys can compete and be useful.

    @liammerrick6399@liammerrick63998 ай бұрын

    • 6'1 here. Give it some time and you'll be an absolute menace on the flat. I can compete quite comfortably without sacrificing a healthy looking physique. I do live in a pancake flat area though haha

      @xAudiolith@xAudiolith8 ай бұрын

  • 165mm cranks, 170mm stem, 38cm bars... oh wait this isn't a track bike video? 😅

    @yoyo510@yoyo5108 ай бұрын

  • Love it!

    @Djalmatec91@Djalmatec918 ай бұрын

  • Are the long stems in use now because forearms in the handlebars aero position got banned?

    @AntonioGGATX@AntonioGGATX8 ай бұрын

  • your videos really make me want to try crit-racing. unfortunately there is not a lot that i have found here in austria. but well, its always fun to watch your videos :)

    @bgruber@bgruber8 ай бұрын

    • Same in Germany. It's just not a thing over here. Would love to try it.

      @runsintheforrest1364@runsintheforrest13648 ай бұрын

    • @@runsintheforrest1364where do you live? Here in the south there is one almost every weekend. Did you look at Rad-net already?

      @martins.3070@martins.30708 ай бұрын

    • @@runsintheforrest1364 There are definitely some in BaWü.

      @Aniqa101@Aniqa1018 ай бұрын

    • @@runsintheforrest1364 if i wouldnt be busy working a 40h job and having 2 kids i'd really like to get something going... but well.. others maybe ^^

      @bgruber@bgruber8 ай бұрын

    • @@martins.3070 Yeah but those are for pros or riders from clubs. I would like to go to practice crits where one can get the hang of it.

      @runsintheforrest1364@runsintheforrest13648 ай бұрын

  • Where do you buy a 170 stem?

    @goldenretriever6261@goldenretriever62618 ай бұрын

  • That 170 stem feels like a safety hazard. 😂😂

    @jpjipperwong@jpjipperwong8 ай бұрын

  • Great video Jeff! Also, these guys are all coming out to Austin, TX for the 1st Annual Wrong Turn Crit... are you going to make an appearance?

    @bjornturide@bjornturide8 ай бұрын

    • would love to but unfortunately won't be able to make it this year. I'm planning on it next year though.

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • Dont forget the handlebar reach. I have a 4cm difference on two of my bikes running the same stem lenght. The long one is a 02 pro setup while the short one is on a new scott. The 02 bike also has narrow handlebars at 38mm, so I guess that's not such a new thing after all.

    @asfaltseksem7385@asfaltseksem73858 ай бұрын

    • This is what many people miss out on. They think the same stem length works for their different bikes and handlebars, but cumulative reach (frame reach + stem length + handlebar reach) is the most important aspect. If one of those parts are shorter or longer, the other two parts need to have different lengths to compensate for the gain or loss. For example, I can run a 100 mm stem on a Size 48 2017 - 2019 CAAD12, but that's because the frame's reach is shorter. I'm not running the same stem length on, say, a Size 49 Tarmac SL7.

      @yonglingng5640@yonglingng56408 ай бұрын

  • 170mm long stem holy cow. I could understand it though. I was playing “kiss the stem” the other day.

    @Timtimzi@Timtimzi8 ай бұрын

  • I am well surprised at the first 2 guys not using aero handlebars while using insanely long stems.

    @mateagoston8145@mateagoston81453 ай бұрын

  • is that 170mm stem custom?

    @unclespliff_productions@unclespliff_productions8 ай бұрын

  • 170mm stems👀 Awesome to see what fast guys are using, when it's up to them.

    @roddas26@roddas268 ай бұрын

  • Jeff im curious about the CRIT bikes. Why they dont have more simple configurations like one chainring, etc? Is a CRIT BIKE a thing or just an Aero road bike?

    @tobiasmadero2727@tobiasmadero27278 ай бұрын

    • As to why most still run 2x, I suspect it's to get your chain back on your big ring quicker in case of a drop or to prevent the drop outright

      @navaronedupont434@navaronedupont4348 ай бұрын

  • Does anyone know why crits pros are using such long stems? Thanks!

    @taylorclarke2550@taylorclarke25502 ай бұрын

  • Eamon in full advertisment mode :D

    @brunospasta@brunospasta8 ай бұрын

  • Man…Eamon Lucas is so cool. He exudes that Cali awesomeness!

    @PatrickLino@PatrickLino8 ай бұрын

  • If Eamon is pushing 1800 I wanna know what his sprinter is doing.

    @joaoletelier8735@joaoletelier87358 ай бұрын

  • wow ! everyone talks in centimetre there !! :D

    @razorree@razorree8 ай бұрын

  • damn that VITUS bike looks 10/10

    @matthi2358@matthi23588 ай бұрын

  • Choosing what your sponsor gives you is just coincidence. 😅 💛💚🌲💚💛

    @rockytalkndawoods3057@rockytalkndawoods30578 ай бұрын

  • AWESOME...wish all these races would do this instead of worrying about giving free advertising, we all like this stuff

    @joehiatt1992@joehiatt19928 ай бұрын

  • lol can confirm about the bugs in Chicago :)

    @liamburke1436@liamburke14368 ай бұрын

    • Lol so bad😂

      @Jstarr_97@Jstarr_978 ай бұрын

  • Interesting that everyone is shilling for SRAM hard. A smaller chainring will cost you half a watt, using the 10T cog will cost you a watt, the flat top SRAM chain is the slowest chain around, basically the SRAM track record in recent years is backwards engineering.

    @pierrex3226@pierrex32262 ай бұрын

  • This guys are the real deal Jeff!!! What are you doing there??? You are the real joke of the competition! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    @mbastos1000@mbastos10008 ай бұрын

  • Low is pro, narrow is aero 😂😂❤

    @BlueJayGer@BlueJayGer8 ай бұрын

  • Did the last dude leave you hanging on the fist bump?!? How rude. 😅

    @SuperJimic@SuperJimic8 ай бұрын

  • 17cm stem that's gorilla arm length. I didn't even know you could get them that long.

    @thecoffeeblog@thecoffeeblog8 ай бұрын

  • This was great! Do I get a prize for being the 1000th "thumbs up"??? I've never gotten to see it go from 999 to 1k before!

    @nblck3232@nblck32328 ай бұрын

  • These stem lengths sheesh. What is the reason for these lengths? Getting in a more TT position? Would be interesting if these are only race bikes or if they are training on them too.

    @rawrwoww@rawrwoww8 ай бұрын

    • Same set up for training and racing for us. Only difference is we us the 303’s on our training bikes

      @Jstarr_97@Jstarr_978 ай бұрын

    • One to two sizes smaller on the frame compared to your average amateur rider necessitates the need for a longer stem. What they’re really chasing is the lower stack of the smaller frame. I typically run a 53cm top tube/90mm stem, but if I were to emulate a lower front end position like these guys, I would run a 49cm top tube/130mm stem. Bear in mind that the smaller frames proportionally have less room to lower the stack, so for my height, there might be no reason to go shorter than a 51cm top tube/110mm stem with a negative rise.

      @FuriousFilipino@FuriousFilipino8 ай бұрын

  • My life in a nutshell: screen shot each bike Go to my wife "which bike should I order to start crit racing?"

    @adriengoux@adriengoux8 ай бұрын

    • Good luck!

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • Apologies if I missed something here, but do riders really set tire pressure at 55 psi? I would have guessed 110 minimum.

    @matttilley8620@matttilley86208 ай бұрын

    • They do especially when they are lightweight rider and running hookless 25mm and above inner width rim with 28/30mm tubeless tires.

      @brasso9393@brasso93938 ай бұрын

    • ​@@brasso9393 Thanks for reminding me that I'm old. You lost me when you said "running hookless 25mm...blah, blah, blah." I come from the 32-spoke Mavic MA40 rim era, when the thought of racing at 55 psi would seem like riding your bike on the beach.

      @matttilley8620@matttilley86208 ай бұрын

    • @@matttilley8620 no worries mate alot of older riders around here acted the same way too. I ran 150 psi on tubular when racing last time. Puzzled at why riders will run 50-60psi nowadays. Until i tried it myself then I realised why. Im merely answering your question abt why rider set pressure at 55psi nowadays. Yes they do and you can run whatever pressure you like which of no concern to me 😉

      @brasso9393@brasso93938 ай бұрын

    • ZIPP hookless rims have a maximum tire pressure of 72 PSI. This is the typical limit for hookless rims that must use hookless-compatible tubeless tires, whether you decide to run them with inner tubes or not.

      @yonglingng5640@yonglingng56408 ай бұрын

  • I want that 52 big boy all these guys are running on their “stock” bikes.

    @rockymanbro@rockymanbro8 ай бұрын

    • You can! 52’s available right on sram

      @Jstarr_97@Jstarr_978 ай бұрын

  • God I wish I could do it all over again kids, move to Cali and enjoy the great weather and race bikes instead of living in the U.K.

    @danielberry1635@danielberry16358 ай бұрын

  • Who is the first guy?

    @goldenretriever6261@goldenretriever62618 ай бұрын

  • do it sniff tho?

    @leonschumann2361@leonschumann23618 ай бұрын

  • 6’3” on a size 58 bike? Is that normal in the crit world?

    @tylerkrieger3819@tylerkrieger38198 ай бұрын

    • Im 6’5 and ride a 58 with a slammed 110mm stem. Honestly the best fitting bike ive ever had. My dads the same height and rides 62cm bikes and they feel so stretched out and hard to get low and aero

      @lukasparbst9655@lukasparbst96558 ай бұрын

    • That's within the normal range.

      @jonocox1028@jonocox10288 ай бұрын

    • @@lukasparbst9655 wow, maybe I’ll have to try this. I’m on a 61cm as a 6’4 rider

      @tylerkrieger3819@tylerkrieger38198 ай бұрын

    • It depends if you are all leg, or all torso. I'm 6'2" and always ride a frame with a 58 top tube, with either a 13 or 14 stem. (depending on head tube)

      @billkallas1762@billkallas17628 ай бұрын

    • Sounds perfect to me

      @thevirtualeconomy@thevirtualeconomy8 ай бұрын

  • Eamon b cool, fr fr

    @BevandEdMusic@BevandEdMusic8 ай бұрын

  • No mention of tyres on any of the rigs - width, tubeless etc?! Big miss.

    @paddyotoole2058@paddyotoole20588 ай бұрын

    • Read in another comment he is editing that part now.

      @Jstroman221@Jstroman2218 ай бұрын

    • Yup, it deserves it's own video, coming soon.

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

    • @@NorCalCyclingok, good stuff. Look forward to that.

      @paddyotoole2058@paddyotoole20588 ай бұрын

  • just me or does jonny brown look like ryan reynolds

    @flippyflipflop4997@flippyflipflop49978 ай бұрын

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    8 ай бұрын

  • No Shimano?

    @DiMeolis@DiMeolis2 ай бұрын

  • Why such low pressure? You could save a lot of watts

    @tomermahlis12@tomermahlis128 ай бұрын

    • not as much as you think, and control in the corners is much more important

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

    • @@NorCalCycling I guess the roads in the USA are very different to Europe if I run 55psi I’ll fold the tyre in the corner due to all the potholes

      @tomermahlis12@tomermahlis128 ай бұрын

  • Stem length and crank length, etc. is totally meaningless and unnecessary to share without knowing rider height, inseam length, etc.

    @YtseHWSW@YtseHWSW8 ай бұрын

  • first guy should just get 38 wide bars

    @yangmu55a27@yangmu55a272 ай бұрын

  • gp 5000

    @opex8396@opex83968 ай бұрын

  • Equivalent to 57 11 like what.....

    @tubbytoast2@tubbytoast28 ай бұрын

    • the math checks out 52x10 is about the same as 57x11

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • I don't get it. Why is he wearing a national jersey? Isn't Quinn Simmons the national champ?

    @log_it8282@log_it82828 ай бұрын

    • quinn is the pro national road champ, ama is the amateur national road champ. USAC is confusing 😂

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

    • @@NorCalCycling Ah alright. Is this like a WBA vs. WBO vs... type of thing a just a different discipline? If so what happens if QS decides to race a crit or isn't he allowed to at this level?

      @log_it8282@log_it82828 ай бұрын

  • How are there some many US national champs? 😂

    @solracz113@solracz1138 ай бұрын

  • 170mm stem...WTF!?

    @turner02@turner028 ай бұрын

    • i've never heard of a stem length matching the crank length

      @JeremyLeipzig@JeremyLeipzig8 ай бұрын

    • 🤯

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • 170mm, Longest stem ive ever seen

    @the.communist@the.communist8 ай бұрын

    • Try 200 mm, I saw this on a track bike.

      @yonglingng5640@yonglingng56408 ай бұрын

  • This is a more accurate video title bro hehe. *What do the BEST crit racers in the USA get SPONSORED TO RIDE FOR MARKETING REASONS.

    @durianriders@durianriders8 ай бұрын

  • According to the master Durrianrider any modern bike is rubbish he recons he can beat ANY pro rider up hill and on any stage on a 2002 specialized s tarmack sl2.......Thoughts please!

    @davemellor4697@davemellor46978 ай бұрын

  • Dammit Jonny you made this video NSFW.... Bwahahahahahaha

    @richardkeller2883@richardkeller28838 ай бұрын

    • People need a little laugh every once and awhile. My goof giving that

      @Jstarr_97@Jstarr_978 ай бұрын

  • Crap bikes by the look of things

    @Tarmaccyclocross@Tarmaccyclocross8 ай бұрын

    • awful, right? 😂

      @NorCalCycling@NorCalCycling8 ай бұрын

  • How about choosing a career or job that pays you dentist money instead?

    @slowcyclist4324@slowcyclist43248 ай бұрын
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