David Stern always seemed to have something against Rasheed Wallace and the Detroit Pistons and Sheed revealed to Tyler why Stern hated him and the team. It was especially apparent during the 2005 Finals when Stern was clearly rooting for the San Antonio Spurs to win the title.
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As an elementary school kid, I remember all the kids saying the NBA was rigged and now we're hearing players out with the same thing. It's always been obvious.
I didn't believe it until I literally witnessed it.
I was one screaming they cheated us
The Stern “Laker Bias” was real. It was only after he got called out on it did he finally try to at least look impartial (see Chris Paul).
Not really because the nba owned the hornets at the time if anything it was done to keep money in NO ie lining their own pockets
He proposed the Paul trade though. It got blocked cause they had 20 million in cap space after all the moves… you got Kobe, Chris, Pau n 20 mil in cap space!!!? Hell nah 😅. Mark Cuban the one who crunched the numbers n was like nah bruh
I will never forgive Stern for that series in ‘02. Kings should’ve won that year.
Rah dropping fact bombs. Since the bad boys days ppl in Detroit been saying if you play here you gotta beat the refs and the other team. The only back to back champion snubbed without a rep in the Olympics. Let that soak in.
Preach!!!!
Rah?
That was hilarious. The "toughest sob's" to ever lace em up in Jordan and Bird we're deeeeep into their feelings. To top it all off Mike never forgave Isiah but got on Rodman's jock after Rodman went upside his head the whole 80s.
@@andrewcook1246@andrewcook1246 in case you forgot john sally was jordans teammate as well. And if you never heard the interviews, isiahs relationship was totally different from the bad boys stuff, mike def respected that team. You never heard him talk crazy about those players really only zeke. Isiah and mike was personal (obviously). Also lets not act like zeke wasnt orchestrating the hits on mike.
@@vindigga6 Did Zeke blackball him out of an allstar spot? Nope. Dream team spot? No. Marketing? Nope. Hell he even gave Mike 2 shots at a game winner in his last allstar game game which he screwed Vince Carter out of his spot. He just can't pretend the league didn't give Mike flagrants to get over the hump, that Mike was also an a-hole and its tough for him to suck up to Jordan when he whupped his ass 3 straight playoffs. Isiah is the only dude who can say he beat Bird, Magic and Jordan en route to a ring.
Rasheed got traded to Detroit before the trade deadline of 04. As soon as he got traded something told me that Detroit was going all the way. When the Finals came around I cleaned up on bets.
I did too! I worked at Coca Cola back then! I was the only who picked the pistons. I cleaned up well.
L cleaned up on bets too. LOL. And I was a Laker's fan,but,I knew the Pistons were gonna win that finals,Lakers had too many egos. Plus,the Pistons were-HUNGRY-for a finals win and would play their hearts out for that win.Prince had Kobe in his back pocket on defense and torching him on the offensive end. It was so good seeing the Black Garden snake humbled. LOL.
Bruh you made that ish up.
Bruh you made that ish up.@@gregoryporter8627 Bruh you made that ish up.
@@January6thugsThat’s what these losers do make up stories to get likes it’s sad lmao
Tim Duncan did say on RJ and Channing Frye podcast “the Detroit championship was the HARDEST championship I won”
I was gonna say no it was against the Heat....but then I realized that they lost.
@@younglove3362 they beat the heat in 14 but again Timmy said it was the 05 pistons
I remember David Stern (R.I.P.) sitting in the stands in The Palace I THINK and he actually said on the microphone while watching the Pistons play AN OPOSING TEAM "I don't like this" He said that he wanted to see more OFFENSE in basketball. Rasheed is on point.
I remember that as well. An what you see now all offense and no defense it's so dumb.
I dont blame stern for wanting to make a change. Problem is nobody questioned him and they took it too far. They struck a good balance of scoring vs defense /physicality around 2007-2014ish. Every since then it's like they try to take more and more defense out of the game
He got his wish and now it's unwatchable and the ratings agree
What Sheed said at the end was too real. Detroit has always has a stigma. Some earned and some not,but in the summer there is no place I would rather be.
Real shit!!!
Thank you Sheed! I remember that game 7 in 05 against San Antonio and the Pistons came out cooking! Then the refs got the Pistons whole starting line up, up out of there with fouls. They gave Sheed, Chauncey, and Ben a QUICK 2-3 fouls early in the first quarter. Then Dice came in off the bench and he was cooking and then the refs got him up out of there with 2-3 quick fouls. I remember the Pistons having to play a line up of Lindsey Hunter, Ronald Dupree, Darvin Ham, Elden Campbell, and Rip against the Spurs starters lol 🤦🏾♂️
It explains a lot I remember our entire front line in foul trouble
Chauncey Billups won SO many games for the Pistons over the years just by drawing contact and making the free throws during crunch time. Game 7 was tied going into the 4th. That’s when Coach Pop switched up renowned defensive specialist Bruce Bowen to guard Billups. It was pretty much series over at that point. They didn’t need to call anything on Bowen whether he fouled him or not. ‘Cause the only thing anyone ever says about Bowen is that he plays great defense. Sheed got me wanting to revisit that wretched series for the first time since it happened. It’d be interesting to see all this stuff he’s mentioning play out. Won’t be any less painful to watch but it beats watching this year’s pistons team anyway.
@tslomka6272 Yeah man! I was done with the NBA after that finals. The Pistons almost beat the Spurs and the refs but the refs was to much to overcome this time smh
Stop it. First off Duncan hardly fouled his. Smart defender. Ben Wallace wasn’t a scoring threat. Sheed is more of a jump shooter. McDyess wasn’t the Denver McDyess.
@@azron88s and they couldn’t stop Manu Ginobili
I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole of Sheeds pods. Love listening to him tell the stories. Really great entertainment to hear his real life experiences and perspectives.
I agree, i was about to Post something similiar Seems to have a really cool attitude. When he talks i think he is stoned but his eyes say different 😂❤
He’s seen some shit
it's beautiful to hear these insiders confirm what we all already know. ref is guarding all doors
The real truth is the Pistons saved Sheed’s career. Trust me if it wasn’t for the Pistons then Sheed would’ve been blackballed from the league just like they did Iverson and Marbury.
Iverson was not blackballed. Like Elgin Baylor he refused to come of the bench.
@@williamwalsh1533right! And then he became blackballed from the league 🤦🏿♂️
@@mumuseer87coaches don’t want players with attitude problems. He needed to shut his mouth and come off the bench. No one wants a locker room cancer.
@@williamwalsh1533 Melo
@@mumuseer87how is that blackballed? AI had too much ego to accept his new reality. He was no longer a superstar, no longer a star, and he couldn’t deal with that, so he acted like a child, emotionally
Don’t forget about tayshawn prince he was a big piece to that piston team for sure
Sheed is saying the 2005 finals was rigged in favor of San Antonio, but if he didn’t have a mental slip and leave Horry wide open for 3 when he was the hottest player in the game in game 5 of the finals, the Pistons would have been back-to-back champs. So, maybe SA was favored, but you can’t say the NBA left Horry wide open…
That's always the story with this sort of whining. You still got to play the game. The other thing about Sheed is that the refs did have it in for him...but he also made every effort to make the refs hate him. Refs are human, and if you treat someone like shit all the time, it is going to affect what they think of you.
Thank you!!! Refs make mistakes that’s why you have to play good clean ball…
This!! Sheed gonna talk about the refs we’re fixing game 7. Joey Crawford hated Tim Duncan, so how is that a fix?
@@robertsims123 was it claim or Robert Ory hip check Steve Nash and he wasn’t suspended?? Stfu
Fam as Detroit fans we know smh horry saved Duncan that day he was GIVING US THE GAME
Imagine if when we watched NBA games and playoffs, we actually saw the better team win.
Jordan would have 3 rings.
@@younglove3362 the entire nba history would be re-written, not just mj. but yeah, i can see what you say
Sheed would be a 3 time champion. Maybe 4. He’d have 1 with Portland, 2 with Detroit, and maybe 1 with Boston.
Sacramento Kings would have the 2001 NBA championship
The NBA has been using foul trouble to sway/rig games since the 80's. Usually the team that is behind in the series or at home gets the benefit. A star or important player from the other team will get 2 quick fouls called early, and they have to sit until late in the 2nd quarter or miss most of their 1st rotation time. The other part of NBA playoff script is that the team trailing at the half usually gets caught up by the refs calling quick fouls on the team with the lead so that the trailing team shoots free throws/gets in the bonus and scores points without the clock running. Sheed is 💯 percent accurate with what he's saying.
It ain't the 80's no more they need to stop
exactly ppl act like he discrediting legends but its just facts
Sure to your point. Go back before magic and when he did show time. Our joke was if it was Lakers in the playoffs it will go 7 games. More TV
The league doesn't like teams because teams are difficult to market. They love mythologizing players so that the general population thinks those players are responsible for all the team's success. Basketball isn't tennis, but they market it and change the rules as if it were. Pistons (including the Isiah Thomas teams) and the Spurs were awesome teams, but they don't fit the ridiculous marketing formula of the NBA. It's a narrative.
Exactly. They got mad when Spurs kept winning because they played “boring basketball “!! It’s a business so they want the most views possible! Look at last nights game, Lakers get 42 FTs to Warriors 16 and they had 52 pts in the paint to Warriors 49 so don’t tell me they didn’t drive it in!! I stopped watching for 5 years and now I remember why! It’s ridiculous how rigged it is for their golden child Lebron 😂. He’s so trash they win by 1 after getting 42 FTs!!! 😂
@@cvgodd1432 I agree completely. We're almost at the point where they will be giving whistles to certain players so they can call the game themselves. I love basketball as a sport. I now hate the NBA.
As a Spurs fan i agree with everything said. Lets not forget that the Spurs/Pistons finals is why the NBA turned to a more offensive driven league. Why you think Nash won those 2 MVP's because of rule changes. Wade getting all them fouls called was wild and dont even get me started on the Kings/Lakers series back then.
I loved those lakers at that time! Kobe is my all-time favorite player! But as a basketball fan. I still like watching my old recordings of those games! The Pistons played some historic team first, brutal, every player buying into one goal, their personal roles on the team being completely defined. and buying into Larry Browns message. 2004 Pistons one of the most underrated teams of all time!
Rasheed and Ben Wallace are my 2 favorite players. But I still can't get over Sheed leaving Horry for the 3 in the dying seconds to help out on Ginobili. That defensive mistake alone cost them the 2nd chip.
Man til this day
So that one mistake cost them a series that still had two more games? Interesting logic.
@@selfmade8884 Lol. That was in game 7. What 2 more games are you talking about?
@@roscoe679 I bet he thought the game 5 one where he scored 23 points.
@@roscoe679that was game 4 cause that would had Detroit up 3-1
Stern hated the late 80’s Bad Boy Pistons too. Same story, small market team, not flashy, playing a blue collar basketball. Thats why Stern implemented the flagrant foul rule before the 90/91 season in an effort to stop them.
I remember the front page of sports was lakers starting 5 and it was talking about how it was a superteam
If the pistons drafted Carmelo I definitely predict more than 1 championship
I think the league told them not to draft Melo cause if they did draft Melo Detroit would have had 3 rings I believe. No way you draft darko over Melo
@@marcelljackson2868Dumars should have known better. Ridiculous
@@marcelljackson2868I still can’t believe they didn’t draft Melo. Melo would had retired with at least 2 rings for sure and honestly would had been better on defense throughout his career.
@bugginout8602 I was watched Rasheed Wallace podcast and he made some really valid points about the team. I highly recommend listening to it cause he went in on David stern
Steve Nash was not on that 06 Mavs team...he was already into his 2nd year with the 7 seconds or less Suns.
Jet Terry was the man that year.
What makes Sheed saying that even funnier is Dallas beat the Nash Suns in the WCF😂
HE MEAN'T STACKHOUSE
Nope, Nash was on the Mavericks in 05 with that Jamison and Antoine Walker.
@@younglove3362 NOPE to you. Nash wasn't on the 05 team. He was on the 05 Suns team that went to the WCF. He was MVP that year. 7 seconds or less.
The Pistons may never be relevant again but I’ll always have the goin to work years. Great memories!
True Detroit shit
Finally, truth confirmed what we always thought. Entertainment, not sport. Manufacturing legends and building ratings.
Loved watching Bron go heads with these guys. Makes me appreciate watching those battles even more now and days hearing Sheed talking about those pistons teams.
The league/Stern didn’t want the back to back Bad Boys to win as well, they interrupted Jordan & Magic.
This is the best segment of this interview! It should have way more views than 63k. I think the NBA got word of this video and had a little talk with KZhead!
2007 Suns-Spurs was insanely tilted in the Stern favored Spurs teams. Game 3 was one of the worst officiated games of all time
One of the worst then Robert Horry pushing Nash made that series a huge asterisk
I remember thinking that why is Manu getting every call everytime he goes into the paint uncontrolled and flopping all over the place… that was such a weird series. Two of the best defensive teams, I don’t think anyone could have really called it right. I’m a Piston fan so I thought I just had my bias, but those foul discrepancy numbers are something. That was the last year I watched the finals and the NBA. I hated how officiating dictated the winner. Both those teams were so good. Real basketball fans enjoyed the chess moves and the defense.
I really hated seeing that flopping , it was like watching soccer.
Manu was dunking on everyone ass that series
@@mangroveManu was the absolute worst with that flopping to where I hated that Spurs teams and Bruce Bowen was dirty asss player
I remember a summer trip to jamaica. Was out in oche rio. Staying at the renaissance. Had to be 14/15 years old. My cousins, brothers, and I were trying to get in the club. We weren’t of age . So we were hanging out around the club…..we see this couple . Very tall. Especially the dude. I’m not a sports guy like my brother and friends. As they were walking I had to ask if he was a basketball. Firmly said “yes” . Asked his name “Rasheed Wallace” didn’t Who he was at the time. Just in awe of how tall he was . Years later hes in the western finals against lakers. As he played for Portland . It hit me when I noticed the birthmark on his head. And later Reading that post season he loves to spend time in Jamaica
Mark cuban paid a huge fine with a dump truck of Pennies. The next game wade broke Jordan’s record for free throw attempts. I think he shot 20 free throws a game the rest of the series.
He also complained for years that Danny Crawford had it out for the Mavs because even during the regular season the Mavs always had a losing record when he reffed the Mavs
Always said one of the strategies to "Take the game global" was to have teams with international players, especially an International Super Star win the championship. This still the playbook today with Greek Freak, Jokic, the Raptors a few years back, all either have a ton of overseas players or a Super Star from Overseas. When a player from overseas is playing the country he's from is more likely to watch and support their guy. This been the NBA Strategy since the 1990's with Divac and the Lakers, and Kukoc with the Bulls
Two things can be true. Because ion see any teams throwing flags up during da finals
Rasheed and the team that he played on and the most of the players during that time are the reason why I don't watch today's NBA games. I loved watching you guys play!!! And yes sir I thought David S. Was fulla BS !! Thanks again for the great memories of the game!!!
Well let's see, Chancy and Rip shot way more than they drove to the hole, where Parker and Ginobili drove to the hole constantly... So, ya I'm sure they did have more fouls... (and yes, I'm old enough to have actually watch this as it happened). Stats do not tell the whole story...
The pistons were a scary team to the powers that be. The pistons had The Brothers and scared the league always been that way since Isiah Thomas and the bad boys pistons
12:04 I remember you guys winning me $400 for that series! I had four friends that’s are Lakers fans mad as hell at me for rubbing it in!
Man that Lakers series is remember almost everyone having Lakers sweeping them.. Then when Detroit stomped them they wanna say all a sudden Lakers was old and beat up... I'm like STFU. they breezed thru that So called tough West then suddenly got old in fjnals
I love hearing them reveal or expose the truth cause when I was younger saying these things it was considered conspiracy theories!
I can't stand sheepish people.
I watched that '04 series from jail. Y'all winning got a few fights started 😆
So are you saying Mr. 6-0 has fraudulent titles?
He hated ai the most he changed the dress code and added the defense rules
I love Sheed, the most honest former player ever!
Because they beat Kobe and the Lakers. That's why as with MJ's time, they made additional hand check rule changes, to hinder the Piston's "boring" defense.
They beat Shaq and the Lakers
That Pistons team was incredible on D they would hold teams in the 70s some nights! Scary
2010 game 7 NBA Finals was the most rigged game, Joey Crawford...Nuff said
Facts..It was almost called ok then 4th quarter Lakers lived at the foul line
Hearing sheed's experience especially since he wasnt a top player face of the franchise, make you realise why people who genuinely love sports sour on in when they realise the amount of is to be made with certain narratives and teams winning. Stern turned the nba into a cash cow sure, but he also turned it corrupt and one sided.
At the one game the Spurs won in Detroit, ref TIM DONAHEY, was officiating on the play where BIG SHOT BOB, made the winning shot for the Spurs, on an inbounds play. Sheed was covering Bob, who threw the ball in. DONAHEY, made Rasheed MOVE BACK, for some odd reason. When Bob threw the ball in, Sheed got caught up in the wash of of the play, and those few feet, MADE THE DIFFERENCE in Robert Horary winning that game, and hitting that shot. I NEVER KNEW, my Pistons had all this going against them, in that series! And if you go back and look at the calls in the 1991 Eastern Finals between the Pistons and Bulls, the calls that led to a Bulls series sweep, from the first two games in Chicago, WERE OFFICIATED, LIKE THEY HAD A SCRIPT TO FOLLOW! And in the end, the NBA, NBC, and Stern got what they wanted, MICHEAL AND JORANAIRES winning, and FIXED, PREARRANGED NBA FINALS MATCH UPS, FOR HIGH RATINGS, knowing those teams weren't even in the class or level of the Bulls! And because of that, years later, we now have a watered down, NO DEFENSE PLAYING, three point shooting, bunch of wimps, playing some of the most UNWATCHABLE basketball, we have ever seen.
Stern must have hated the Houston rockets in the mid 90s when they defeated the Knicks and Magic in back to back years
Probably did.
Being a piston fan and from Detroit is feel totally comfortable saying we don't give a dam what david stern Liles or doesn't like.
The only NBA finals I can't watch. Pistons should have easily won that chip.
It ain't even my coffee table but dudes constant foot on that table drives me crazy. 😂
Sheed is right about the spurs series but you really have to look the big picture also the NBA didn't want neither team in that finals period Shaq just went to Miami and Detroit beat them the Lakers were trying to rebuild around Kobe so the suns were the flashy team but san Antonio beat them. Tim Duncan and the spurs wasn't marketable just as much as the pistons wasn't me as a former player and love for the game loved that series that was pure basketball the ratings were down because the casual asshole didn't watch. But that was a great series. That's why when the 1st warriors championship Milwaukee the Mavericks Toronto and now Denver are my favorite ones from this era because they beat the status quo but prove the point the point of what sheed is saying just look at the sport shows every day the only people who are objective is the TNT crew
Numbers don't lie, but can be easily misinterpreted. Other than that, I agree with Sheed.
David stern only really cared about two teams in the 2000s. Lakers due to money and spurs due to the international factor. In the 90's he was in love with jordan not necessarily the bulls. Im not a pistons fan but definitely they should have won more in the 2000's.
06 finals was a joke. DWade literally stiff-armed Dirk and Dirk got called for the foul. The most blatantly transparent fix of my lifetime in terms of the Finals. WCF of Lakers vs Sac and Lakers vs Portland were pretty fucking bad as well.
People only talk about the 06 finals but the ECF Miami Vs Detroit was almost as bad. I remember one play where the ref runs into a Pistons player then called a foul on the Pistons. The most blatant rigging ever in 06
@@Loganbubexactly and they tried to fix in 2005 to try and get Miami in there cause they wanted a bigger star team in there.... Miami was wanted in finals both them years
@@Bigedub101 Absolutely. Both those series the refs were screwing Detroit.
2:45 Rasheed's mistaken by saying the Spurs only had 4 Americans on its 2004-2005 roster. The international players on that squad were: 1) Tony Parker, 2) Manu Ginóbili, 3) Beno Udrih, 4) Rasho Nesterović and 5) Sean Marks. ALL THE REST WERE AMERICANS!
Tim Duncan is from the Virgin Islands. He wasn't born in the U.S. But, I think he was considered an American because the Virgin Islands is an American territory.
Facts the nba rigged mj to win 6 rings too ..
They don’t want to talk about it
David was in love with Jordan
It’s crazy how most of these former players are admitting the league is rigged. I’m sure most of us knew it was rigged already but it’s almost like if you are a fan of a small market team you might as well just not put your energy into thinking they will win sometime.
2002 WCF was the beginning of the end for me and nba. Thereafter the fixing was obvious to see
They were fixed before that. The mafia is even in on it. Been doing it since the 70's. Had superstars throwing games.
@@younglove3362 for sure i know that now but when im 15 at the time, a huge nba fan i dont know that. That game was beyond obvious and then did some research and saw the big picture and never went back. My trust was broken i cant watch fixed sports, id rather watch movie which dont pretend to be scripted
@@scottv8124exactly I know it was series before that like 2001 ECF yet 2002 it was sooooooo obvious, it was insulting to our intelligence
20 years later, the NBA is feeling the symptoms of the toxic behavior of David Stern and others involved in how the league was ran, but generally turns a blind eye to it because of how marketable the product is.
lOve your channel!
Game 6 draws eyeballs, but game 7 is where ad money increases because it's truly down to 1 & Done.
Lotta respect for sheed as a bulls fan so you know that means something 😂
Dude I love Rasheed and that entire pistons team. Rasheed getting hyped as hell and getting thrown bullshit techs. Ben Wallace massive prescence and love when we rocked the iconic fro. Tayshawn is a freak of nature that dude got hella long arms and he always stepped when everyone else got D up real good. Chauncey is prolly the only of the bunch who maybe could be a hall of a gamer but again this team was grungiest and scrappiest team in basketball. But my personal fav was always RIP fuckin splash Hamilton with his cool ass mask he wore that made it look like he insane sideburns. I wanted my mom to get my a mask to wear but she said they are expensive and it’s only if you broke your nose when I was a kid. That dude could hit a pick turn around get a pass and shoot lights out sometimes. Truly a team through and through nobody overshined. Shred was def the soul.
Sheed speaking the truth.
Them "JAWNS" is a PHILADELPHIA PA word
What does it mean??
@@kevinforeman4485 it's literally a noun, so it represents a person, place or thing
Now officials will call on the floor fouls instead of putting opponents on the free throw line to even it up. Now you have to pay attention to the amount of free throws are being shot to make sure these games are being called fairly.
That dude was wrong 0:00-0:05. Detroit is not a small market team, they have all four major sports pro teams in the city. They didn't have marketable bonafide superstar players.
Cheated the guys out of back to back and the 88 pistons out of what should have been their 1st ship.
And most people say this was the best NBA commissioner ?? Lmao He hated small markets. All he cared about, was money and how he looked as a commissioner. He didn’t care about the game y’all have to stop. Lol
Steve Nash wasn't on the 06 Mavericks team.
Sheed was definitely a Star. #Facts
I remember during the Jordan era, I used to tell other team fans, y'all better hope your team is beating the Bulls by 25 points going into the 4th. If not, you will be watching Michael Jordan do whatever he wants, and your team will get most calls goes against them.
Funny how it is when you take a look behind the curtain
I swear as a Mavs fan it's still hard 2 talk about Dat 06 series. I remember watching & saying they treating him (Wade) like Jordan. Anybody wit eyes could see the fix was n til Wade literally out shot the whole team from the free throw line...
Wallace was a beast one of my favorite NBA dudes I rarely watch basketball.
I played in the D, nba, and overseas. I’ve seen all of these things and more. One of my overseas coaches (and the refs from that season) went to jail one year. It’s exactly what you think: money
Bro, PLEASE talk about game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals. Lakers shot 23 free throws in the 4th. I KNOW Sheed has something to say about that.
The league been had a agenda against us since we made Jordan get on his knees to David stern 😂
Detroit is not a small market. We had one of the biggest arenas and largest viewership
it’s not a top 10 city population wise. small market.
@@sbrooks904 Due to the auto industry being moved but we are the 3rd largest city land wise in the US even with the Mayor shrinking the city
And even with all the foul trouble, it was TIED at 57 heading into the 4th Quarter in Game 7. That Detroit team should have been a dynasty playing the right way (not dirty) but the league absolutely made sure that wasn't going to happen.
Man I miss those nba man.
Yeah it’s still rigged like it is in 2023 no difference
This was the year the Spurs lost to .04 seconds ala Derek Fisher, Roy Jones Jr got knocked out by Tarver in the second round in the rematch he didn’t need to take. THIS was the ONLY bright spot in sports that year.
Sheed. You had Manu slashing. Of course he knows how to create contact on every possession. Chauncy and Rip were no Parker Ginobili combo. Cmon now you knew this and called Manu "Manure" lol. Cuz he frustrated you.
Yall remember the Kings getting FUCKED out of their championship versus the Lakers. I mean that was BLATANT
This is basically my argument on why I don't call MJ the GOAT, the marketing push was being made before he won a ring in the first place.
And sheed my man 50 grand but you left Robert horry off an inbound pass for no reason bro and he hit that three that was the nail in the coffin you left one of the most clutch players in NBA history wide open that didn’t have nothing to do with the refs I was heated when sheed did that smh but pistons was always one of my favorite teams I just don’t like they coach
Pistons fan here. I hated the Refs for screwing us out
Celtics loss the 2010 Finals because of Sheed.😂😂😂 Stern did not allow him to win another Ring.
DALLAS was about to SWEPT the HEAT and NBA was going to lose a lot of TV SHARES...NBA just gave 20 FT attempts to WADE....STRANGE ones, he was throwing himself against players that werent even defending him...
BS they choked in game 3&5 and got shutdown in game 4
@@melvynsngltn27 choked??? so you didnt watch D:WADE throwing himself against defenders and promoting contact in almost every play???🤣🤣 or refs calling offensive fouls to every screen DIRK had to try to put him on the bench... THE LEVEL of DELUSIONAL and FANATISM you have is abusrd...
@@melvynsngltn27 STOP talking about basketball..you are a FANATIC
I think likely big market Lakers were favorite by the league, I admit that as a Laker fan. Compared to the small market Detroit, but don't see it as race, just see it as a small market only.
"When motherfuckers are in higher power..they don't like to be called out on the facts" realist shit I've heard.
There isn't one single million dollar company that exist and has ever existed that isn't involved in shady dealings...not one. The NBA wants 7 game series in ever series.
NBA is like sports entertainment.
David Stern is the reason the NBA is today what it is
All offense and no Defense!
Shout out to the guy on the left. I remember watching that Dallas-Miami series and thinking this is ridiculous how the refs are making the calls
Game 5 of the 05 finals. I was there. Rasheed LEFT Horry wide open. Ask Rasheed about that. Horry was on fire the whole game
Yeah, but he takes ownership for it. From my standpoint i thought, he shouldn't be put that situation by Larry Brown. Sheed was playing Duncan all game. I dont think he had been put out on perimeter for a situation like that. League screwed the Pistons🔎💥
@michaelallen8112 no excuse you don't leave big shot Bob open Tayshawn didn't need help Manu
I understand why he went to trap Ginobli in the corner... but not leaving Horry wide open tho
@@Ran_Ryaz man stop with that overused term can excuses which brute term for denial. I already made commentary, he took responsibility for.
Horry was playing out of his mind the whole game. No excuse to leave Horry .
Will always love the Pistons, should be 4 time champs.
You knew the NBA and Stern were full of it when 23 in red got to the league. People who REALLY pay attention know…….
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I don’t agree with the white cut on the heat series Nash wasn’t on that team and Wade was aggressive Dirk wasn’t
I always wondered why the pistons where complaining during the game so much