Phil Jagielka QUESTIONS If The Premier League WANTS Everton RELEGATED, Similar To The EFL & Derby!😬
2024 ж. 12 Ақп.
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Phil Jagielka joins Drive to discuss Everton's points deduction and if the Premier League intentionally wants them relegated.
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Miss jags. What a great lad and a super centre back. God we miss him!
Great career
Weird how 2 reli-threatened Clubs r being 'hung out t dry' Prem r responsible f Richys conduct cos allegedly they knew yrs bf but allowed this t continue; Richy CANT be innocent of 115 charge as no smoke without fire an all that so even if 80-100 r dropped there stILL atleast 15(if not more) t contend with. Richy r dragging their heels just t conveniently make paper trail 'disappear '. The PREM knows their guilty, as do the fans(including theirs) an THEY know it2 but money talks an alas, i just think they'll 'buy' their way outta damaging punishment.
What a player. Miss jags
City will get away with it
Blades and Everton legend. That man could always read the game so well
As a Liverpool fan, it was funny seeing the toffees loose their heads for a minute, but in reality. It's a disgrace. How they are being made an example off when there is much worse going on is a farse. I hope they get the 10pts back . Either be prepared to treat all clubs identical in timely fashion or let them all off . They have been scapegoated.
... What i don't get, over the years FA do nothing for any charges on another clubs, some over 10 y.
That is understandable and should have been taken into consideration. Either dealing with Man City first , or by holding punishment to effect them all in the same season. Once all clubs have been found guilty. Picking the low hanging fruit is not the way to be fair in an investigation about fairness and ethics
What I find ridiculous is Masters told the MP’s that a point reduction will not be in place next season..just in time for city, etc. I call it discrimination against Everton and Forest. What a shambles …Masters and his boss should be sacked
@@JordiBoy_city have 7 charges of fsp same one we have
And as an Everton fan just think how Liverpool might have fared if Man City had been punished earlier. And indeed Liverpool , Man U Spurs ,Arsenal etd were given a slap on the wrist of about £3m for the Super League fiasco. That would have undermined the PL but the PL do treat them differently because the PL brand is so dependent on them. So it is one rule for the top boys and another for the rest.
im a boro fan..who luckily grew up in the 80s remembering the everton,double title winning sides...proper club being made a scapegoat for the most corrupt league there is...this is the premier league that wanted a 39th game in america...anything for money...man city 115 charges forever ongoing..but within two mins of 1 charge against everton they dealt with it straight away...i hate the money grabbing corrupt premier league..fixed,corrupt and sold out
Football not the same anyone is it mate
If Everton weren't building a new £700m+ stadium they wouldn't have breached PSR. New stadia or improvements to existing facilities shouldn't be counted within PSR as it's a genuine attempt to achieve profitability & sustainability. The club have been poorly managed over the past 8yrs or so, and wasted money on players... however, for the last 3 or 4 yrs it been selling or releasing players not extravagant purchases. The commission report states that the PSR breach didn't constitute a sporting advantage, yet a sporting penalty was given.
If Russia didn’t invade Ukraine they would if had a backer in usmaov
If you knew what you were talking about you’d realise buildings are capitalised and not out through profit/loss except for amortisation etc
@@BridgeStamford When they started building the stadium they could write off the interest payments then they changed the rules. Which is my understanding,
Where did it go wrong for Everton? The ban on British clubs banned fm Europe. Everton had just won the European Cup winners cup and the league the revenue lost by the Heysel ban cost the club dearly,players left even HKendal left to be involved in European competition. Everton had their best chance of becoming European chapions taken away from them.
Amazing professional and in the tier below the great Everton Legends of the past. Great to hear him back us, but also have a balanced view of the current situation admitting the mistakes Moshiri has made. Bringing in Tarkowski was a step in the right direction for us in getting players who fit EFC. Quite similar to Jags, a top pro.
The fa totally mugged Luton off years ago 30 points ended up in the conference Man Citee should be in the Asda north salford Sunday League Div 4.
Did Luton not go into administration?
@@blinkin78irregular matters can involving transfers and breaking rules of administration. The then owners jogged off with the money, leaving the fans and the new owners in the 💩
3rd lowest net spend in the Prem over the last 5 years. So much for 'lavish spending' which broke rules which elements of the media keep spreading.
The point where it all started was Heysel and British clubs all being banned on the back of it. Top players left the club to have a taste of European football. That was that. Lost the opportunity to play in the European Cup which was a real Champions Cup not like the Champions league we have now. Jags is right about the points deduction too. If you take 20 points off a club for financial reasons you are relegating them in the boardroom and not on the pitch. Not a very good look for the Premier league as a brand.
So basically on your planet it’s all Liverpool’s fault that Everton are perennial relegation fodder ??? 😂😂😂
@@ciaranlynam2456They blame Liverpool for everything 😂 One of their fans just got a banning order for racially abusing Salah but their fans saying it was because of us mocking them. Victim FC seriously and they have the cheek to say it about us!
100% a factor yes.
You can’t blame a tragedy from 1985 for what’s going on now.
It actually all does stem from heysel. When that happened only One club should of been banned.
The last great Everton signings I can personally think of (and I'm NOT a fan or supporter of the club before anyone comes for me) are Marouane Fellaini and Romelu Lukaku. Both MORE than cut the Mustard at Goodison Park and the pair of them ended up being sold for considerably more than it cost for the Toffees to get them though the door to start off with. A quick look on Wikipedia tells me that you are going back 10 if not more years in this instance and I can only guess the club was being more sensibly run than it has been since Moshiri bought it in 2016.
Richarlison
@@pravda666 I always thought and still do think he's MASSIVELY overrated personally and that's why I didn't mention him.
jarrad branthwaite valued at £100 million cost us hardly anything and playing for us now
Richie for me was our last great signing, but i echo your sentiments, absolutely adore Jags, what a bargain buy, what a leader!
Omg that Anfield Goal. Great player,professional, and a decent down to earth bloke v3ry much missed.COYB
I'll never forget the window he's talking about where we bought like 3-4 10s in one window.
Siggy, Rooney, klassen! Just to name a few, silly decisions costing us big time
And Keys said he loved yer business.....what a 🤡
Kenwright got Rooney, Koeman got Klaasen and Walsh got Sigurdson, absolutely ridiculous how bad we were run
Then we got Vlasic before the window shut 🤦
Finally we have a player voicing it for us
Shame the Crisp Millionaire couldn't bring himself to back us...no doubt hating us for Leicester going down.
Super Jags is a true gentleman, had a photo with him as a teen and he was easy going. Speaks well and the truth. Dyche is finally turning our squad back to where it should be, hard working and dedicated.
Big shout out to Jag's noisy chair. It made some great points.
Everton are being made an example out of, and the fact they could be docked more is scandalous
Errrr, other clubs have been deducted points in the past. Luton had 30 points and with that kicked out of the football league. They signed up to the rules and broke them.
Scandalous that they broke the rules!!
@@BridgeStamford says the Chelsea fan lmao you’ll have worse
Well said JAGS!!!
Hilarious when he was reading the names 😂😂
Proper true CB Everton defence could do with him at the back
Unfortunately we’ve often fallen on the wrong side of fortune: -We won the league the season before WWI broke out, the league halted and we lost the momentum. -we won the league the season before WWII broke out and lost that momentum again. -we weren’t allowed to compete in Europe when we had arguably one of the best teams around in the 80’s -after having little money for so long we got a billionaire ceo when ffp rules were effective. Chelsea, Liverpool, man city, man utd all benefited from spending squillions before ffp came into play. I remember the joke about Liverpool having spent a billion on transfers and no league title. -finally when we had money, we appointed a director of football who recruited the Leicester team that won the league, and the signings he made for the club didn’t work out at all. -don’t think we can have many complaints, the club would have known about ffp position and should have sort clarity on the epls position on the interest payments to do with the stadium. 10 points however is not appropriate but wasn’t made by the epl rather an independent panel. And of course it’s the fans that wear the failures of the management of the club. They have however now opened Pandora’s box, what happens to man city and their league titles and those that finished 2nd, and financial compensations for clubs relegated. It’s now a total mess. I think they’ll change the rules for future seasons now and Everton will perhaps be the only club to be penalised with the points deduction. It’s all good, as I said, we’ve gotten use to being on the wrong side of fortune, literally.
fortune is always hiding ? very apt sir ? if you say so .i beleive you
Good points but atleast we are Everton and that's enough.
Forgot to add our takeover with moshiri and russian usmanov who had unlimited wealth, USM had a 300million pound naming rights, sponsorship of the training ground etc etc and then war breaks out and his assets are frozen. Obviously not trying to disrespect or compare the struggles and lives lost on both sides of the war etc, but it’s yet another example how we’ve been the right club at the wrong time, every time.
Jaggs a loyal ex Everton player and fan...
Good/big in 80s? And 100 yrs prior ! If you know your history!...if not , learn it! 💙
Mr Moshiri and Usmanov's dream at Arsenal was to create a Super Club, albeit for Arsenal! When Mr Moshiri came to Everton, that was his ambition for us! Unfortunately, decisions, naivety, and corrupt global corporate agendas were also effective.
What bout city with all the ffp breaches
Everton and Derby can count themselves hugely lucky not to have suffered points deductions in the seasons before they finally got them. Both sides got huge 12 month reprieves and survived the drop as a result
No they just don't want teams to break the ffp rules
Yep. It's that simple 😊
@@rogerdavies2796The limit of £105m was agreed upon thirteen years ago and has not been amended or updated since.
Yeah so the rules are definitely correct 👍🏻big clubs spend more money coz they bring in more meaning they get to stay at top of the league and there’s no chance for smaller clubs. Great football pyramid scheme🤔
@@rogerdavies2796 if you are simple
@@stuartrowland4818so there is no ex use for Everton not knowing the rules is there? Rules have been in place 13 years and they can't stick to them
So Everton agree to FFP (PSR), breach them twice in two consecutive periods, admitting to the first, get referred to an independent commission who punishes them in accordance with agreed guidelines by the clubs and somehow its the FA/Premier Leagues fault? I think they will get a third of the points back but they have failed again so will probably lose them again anyway. As I understand it Everton admit to the charge and don’t want points deduction or at least a number of points that actually adversely affects their league position. They don’t want a fine as they keep failing PSR and apparently these wealthy businessmen need help in running a business. But they are of course committed to financial fair play for all. I’d be interested to see how loudly Everton squeal for points deductions if Nottingham Forrest and Everton end the season with no points deductions and Forest stay up at Everton’s expense at the end of the season…….
You do realise Everton have already had a points deduction and Forest haven't? If there were no points deductions, Everton would be mid table.
The problem is the rules were agreed, but the penalty for breaking the rules were not. These supposedly clear and transparent proceedings have sent the league into panic mode as can be seen by January's transfer window. I think most of us would have accepted a more reasonable points deduction. And being punished again for essentially the same offence in the same season is completely unjust.
Everton are also apparently being investigated TWICE for some of the same financial years - (rolling FFP breach), this also hasn't been thought through.
Rules were agreed and then prem changed the rules on stadium interest payments which is where efc got didked. Pl would be destroyed in court . I hope it goes to court
The full report is on the PL website which clearly states we gained no on field advantage. Why should we receive a sporting sanction for a non sporting offence? But our main bugbear is the severity of the punishment, its only -9 for administration!!
The reason Everton didn't kick on from the success of the 80's is simple... English teams were barred from playing in Europe.
Nothing to do with the poor decisions from the board like🙄Come off it Leicester and Wigan have won trophies more recently than Everton, they can't go on blaming Liverpool for everything that's gone wrong. Arsenal also got banned but you don't hear their fans whining.
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669 If Arsenal were barred from Europe when they had the best team they ever had, then you would be hearing a lot more from them. Imagine if they where barred from 1999 to 2004??
Warnock listening with a tumbler of whiskey and sweaty palms…❤❤ jags❤❤..
Well said Jags lad!
Everton fans; "we blame the board" ... board & club gets punished ... Everton fans; "we blame the premier league" 😂
No
Yes@@holgz
@@holgz it's literally what you did 😂
How have the board been punished they’re not even in the job? Talking nonsense, the fans have been punished by getting a sporting sanction for a financial breach which the premier league admitted granted Everton 0 advantage on the pitch. Educate yourself before you comment fellas
@@paultully365 you’re lacking facts, it’s ok though, we’ll get there
Koemen with all hes midfielders
I wonder if Koeman had any say in those signings?
Since VAR came in Everton have always had the worse decisions via this method, no pen in 3 years?
I think Forest aren't far behind, yet again this weekend a stonewall penalty turned down
Same as F1, financial fair play is just a pretense to close up shop at the top and exclude competition/investment from outside the cartel. That being said, Everton fans should still feel hard done by their board for flirting with the FFP limits and opening themselves up to this penalty. It's a basic failure of stewardship.
Jags is right, EFL made sure Derby went down, not just the minus 21 points, our best players like Jags , the EFL made damn sure we couldn't afford their salaries.
did with derby would have been better structuring
Love how Jags still calls us “we” and “us”. The way he was treated at the end of his contract was disgusting. Miss you skipper!
Why would the premier league want Everton relegated? What do the premier league have to gain by this?
Everton are one of the few teams never to be relegated from the league and we don;t fit their "Big 6" agenda
because their style of football is an abomination to football fans everywhere And it makes the product unattractive to the broadcasting companies when the bidding rights come around again.
Meaning ?@@johnriley7312
They don't, it's just the usual victim complex that we keep hearing.
It's SkyTV.....they would love everton in championship. It would sell for them...'can Everton get back in the top tier...?' 'One of the longest ever serving top tier teams!!....' they would be on sky loads!! Its all about money and no one has got more fingers in pies than Murdoch!!🤷♂️
No and im not saying there wasnt a breach on everton books but it wasnt an on field advantage which the first inquiry admitted btw!...its firstly a way of throwing a smoke screen so they dont deal with city but because of the influence of Sky it also improves viewers...nit saying its true but its not beyond Mudochs corrupting reach?🤷♂️
It wouldn't matter if there was an hour long video explaining exactly where and how Everton's 19m overspend occurred and the massive inconsistencies in the PL approach and total under-handed dealings.. There would still be little fire-stick fans coming on here and trolling for the sake of it. Clueless of the actual facts. UTFT FTPL
That's a fair comment
the moshiri era is to blame. he gave the money but it wasnt managed good enough
Sensationalist, no proof just supposition, not to worry though, you can always change your mind again. Chin up Kris
The equalizer at Anfield, Legendary
I didn't think Jagielka was this stupid 😳 The question should be if the owner & director wanted Everton relegated
"Bigger clubs treated differently" should change that to "Richer" clubs treated differently. City aren't bigger than Everton
UTFT
Love these Everton haters,we should worry about Luton Sheffield Burnley because…,, !😂🤣😂🤣
Everytime I hear a bias take on this situation all I hear is "mid tier clubs not wanting to be punished because they're not successful so they shouldnt even be looked at because look at this rich club doing something else". Look how he immediately talks about City and Chelsea. They preach how-about-ism and it's pretty transparent. You messed up
Spoken like a fan moist by clubs with all the money and power
@@holgzcry in the championship
@holgz cry to your owner not law abiding citizens
I’m sure you see that on social media. But most evertonians fully accept the club broke the rules and deserve sanction. The anger is about the severity. A £19.5m overspend over 3 years (which wouldn’t have happened if not for the club building a new stadium to become more sustainable) does not warrant the biggest ever top flight points deduction. It’s clear the PL are fighting off the independent regulator, and are using Everton & Forest to make their point.
@@CommonVillain law abiding citizens are u for real u cheated ur way out of the championship.with inflated valuations of ur own ground which u sold to a company that ur owners owned!
Dithering Dave is exactly the same having spent over 400 million quid for your guide…
I like Everton always had a soft spot for them...But if you throw your hands up and say we're guilty your fcucked.
Honesty definitely isn't the best policy.
we're only guilty because the prem changed the rules in Dec 22 for the PSR calcs submitted in Mar 23 - like what are the club meant to do? no time to rectify.
The Premier league isn't going to want a founding member relegated. Everton are one of the clubs to push to break away from the football league, the Premier League don't want them relegated.
Everton with the stadium present a risk to the status quo of the big 6 with financial parity.
ANY club refusing to cooperate with submission of documents or any FFP investigation should be suspended and forfeit every scheduled game by 3-0 until they time that they cooperate with the governing body
Ten points for financial breach,any cabbage would say that’s not right durrrr!UTFT💙👍
So Jagielka doesn't understand the PSR regs, doesn't know the details of Everton were charged, doesn't understand how other clubs have complied, doesn't seem to know that there's 41 page report explaining why Everton were punished, doesn't understand that the City case is very different....but he thinks Everton have been harshly treated. Might as well have asked the opinion of a cabbage.
Nobody understands the PSR regs because they make them up and change them as they like, they’ve already changed them so that stadium costs are included (which took Everton over the limit and without those costs Everton would be compliant) and they’re changing them again next year because it’s a farce. Finally show me the rule that shows you get -10 points for going 19mil over… oh and it’s only 9 points for going into administration? 🤣🤦♂️
This is the problem with most people when talking on this. They go "Its a vendetta against Everton because Man City haven't been punished" not understand that Everton made a black and white breach. Everton just straight up spent on paper, more then they were allowed, on paper. Man City have spent on paper, what they are allowed to, on paper. Its very, very different issues. Its essentially like, Everton were seen by 500 people, in full view of CCTV, stabbing a bloke to death and were immediately arrested whislt drenched in blood holding the knife. City are suspected of killing 20 people. But all they have is a hunch. Theres some missing people, but no bodies. Theres no murder weapons, no witnesses. Theres a few reports that suggest City were the last person seen with some of those 20 people that are missing, but thats about it.
I'm sure you have read the 41 page report.
@@GamerFlairSome analogies are just not worth making. You are saying a clever serial killer should walk free when a person who committed GBH on CCTV should given the maximum sentence? The fact is City and Chelsea were able to buy success, the rules were changed and Moshiri couldn't do the same. The seasons we are being punished for are the consequences of that poor spending and some unfortunate incidents. We could not tighten the purse strings quick enough.
Nobody does. The MPs in the select Committee asked the premier league to release the info and the premier league said no. There's only 1 cabbage around here
Just don't break the rules. Simple
Financial figures agreed upon thirteen years ago, which haven't even risen with inflation.
No. What they want is to prove they can govern themselves and don't need independent oversight. Everton just happen to be the club they are using to demonstrate that. They don't want to use Man City to do that because Man City have the eyes of the football world on them, it would be awful for the reputation of the PL for their "darling" club to be punished. Everton on the other hand aren't really cared about outside of England so it's better to slap them around
Bigger clubs, like 2 times champions of England spurs v 9 times champions of England Everton or not that long a go third division champions city who nobody bar about ten thousand people had ever herd of........." CORRUPTION "
you mean forest ?
The very fact that they are asking these questions should ring alarm bells as to how the Premiere League is being run. Money is king, the smaller clubs will never be able to compete, prem league will line their pockets, who cares about anybody outside of the top 5. Mess.
The Corrupt Premier League can throw whatever they like at us! and if we are relegated then so be it but we will be back even stronger, we are Everton! COYFB
Is that Gary Neville?
Leeds City broke the rules and got expelled! Everton and forest should be punished
Leeds City?
@@stuartrowland4818 It's a Joe Biden thing.
@@stuartrowland4818 back in the day they were called leeds city
forest will not get points deducted it will be a big fine i know this i have friend in high places though they have told me to keep my big mouth shut i just can't though its who I am they should have told me f---- all in a washerwoman 😎
Yet again these pundits are not understanding the differences between the Everton charge and the Man City charges and therefore why it is taking so much longer , They are very different please do some homework on this if not do not comment.
Manchester City going for the triple in the league and potentially other trophies with 115 charges dating back to 2015 ✅️ Everton - 2 relegations back to back. Bottom 5 in net spend for the last years. Building a new stadium to help increase commerical revenue ❌️
Football fans don't understand the rules and then cry about it. My club, Sheffield United, had all sorts of financial issues last season. We got promoted and will now get relegated. It's not great but we have to take it on the chin and move on.
Equality before the law, that's what's being demanded here.We hear that Man City will be relegated to the ? tier,yet their case is never concluded.But smaller clubs get the book thrown at them.Fair is fair.This ain't.
Massive year coming up for PL credibility
Man City?
Ah yes, Man City. A bit like a driver caught going 30KPH over the speed limit on the motorway and then before the judge claiming the police shouldn't have arrested him because they should be out arresting bank robbers.
@melabshier5812 Surely Everton is the driver brought before the judge in this analogy ??
@@dstewusa7054 Correct.
To answer Goldsteins question of why Everton stood still and the rest didn’t is simple money they where skint for 30 odd years
Just stop breaking the rules and Everton will be fine.
What other business can you own but can't put your own money into it to be able to compete financially with your rivals who, because of ffp rules, will always be able to outspend you thus never allowing you to develop your brand.
They're not being made an example of.
Look at the money Everton spent? They admitted they cheated
You need to look at the facts. Everton are in the bottom 3 net spend on players( in the last 3 years) the problem, has been spending on the new stadium - absolutely no sporting advantage
Learn your facts clueless dope
@@goodev88 cos the PL have included interest in their calculations for the stadium but interest is never included in turnover ?
- Everton found Guilty - Everton must not be Punished - City found Not Guilty in Court - City must be Punished?😂
Does he drive a jaag?
It all went wrong because of ownership. I’m not gonna speak bad of the dead but Bill Kenwright should have left the clubs 20 years ago. FFP is a joke Chelsea and City have been breaking the rules for years and got away with it yet Everton and now Forest are facing relegation because of unfair FFP it’s wrong to have it one a rolling 3 year period you it’s why Everton could be punished again for the same FFP they were docked 10 points which I hope they get back. Forest not even been in the premier league 3 years yet they are being done for FFP it’s just wrong broken and unfair.
Defining moment of Everton was Liverpool getting English clubs banned from Europe for 3/4 years during late 80s Facts
you'd be the biggest club in the world if not for that pha-fa-ha-ha. Delusion
@@SethsHairyToe not saying that am I but we might have been first English club to have won the champions league
😂Anyone who has played years in the Prem is a top class professional at the highest level. So respect. But try to get guests who understand the game, are articulate and have opinions. It is really illuminating that the best guests on TalkSport recently have been Rod Stewart, Russel Brand and Mr Gallagher. The points deduction issue was made no clearer by a so called expert a couple of weeks ago.
You broke the rules end of story
It’s not as simple as that
@@holgz You broke the rules by cooking your own books.
@@lfcspectre4335 eh?
dont know what your talking about ....🔔end
@@9032004 Keep denying it 😉 Like 115 FC keep doing.
I have a plan stay within ffp and you wouldn’t be in this position
That's not a plan fella, it is just a statement.
I have a plan be charged with 115 offences and not get touched.
@@colin...101 They will be. It's a completely different case.
I have a couple of questions for you to answer lid - If we don't build that stadium which is going to totally rejuvenate the northern area of Liverpool city centre - benefitting loads of local reds as well as blues, do we breech PSR? (answer is no). Next question - if the rules hadn't changed in Dec 22 for the Mar 23 numbers (the reason Everton pleaded guilty is because they knew the change of rules midway through put them in breech (side question is that just governance from a governing body?)) would Everton breech PSR? (answer is no). Next question - if Spurs were building a stadium at the same time as Everton, considering the rule change in Dec 22, would they have breeched PSR? (answer is yes).
@@sufirodger always the victim 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let’s hope not the corrupt rats
People still don't seem to be able to understand the difference between Everton and City's cases: Everton broke profit and sustainability rules - they lost over £300m and have been correctly punished. Man city are alleged to have broken FFP rules. 115 charges which Man city are trying to push back against will take longer to prepare the hearing and deal with. Everton are not victims. Every club that does what they have will be punished in the same way - hence why Jan transfer window was so dead. Man City's case is completely different.
Andy,fyi….football goes in cycles…..
What’s wrong with doing wrong and then having to pay the price.???
Again another -10 points Everton
Phil your ex club as broke the rules end off 🙈
Imagine The FA ffp act every year, at end of 37 epl game, we can watch Leicester in PL, city in national league North (6th liga) with chelsea
I know I want to them to get relegated
We need a tinfoil hat emoji.
I can smell your booster shots from here
The Premier Leagues Richard Masters let the cat 🐈 out of the bag saying Everton & Forest are small clubs. What he means is that if The Premier League wants to flex it's muscles and show clubs whose the boss they will do so by going after the smaller clubs, because that is acceptable. If they find Manchester City guilty, they are admitting The many time Premier League Champions have won their League through cheating.
Rules are the rules…..about time the toffees tasted the lower leagues 😂
The reason was been banned from Europe for 5 years
When Prem group setup , up ALL 20 clubs signed up t the rules; Everton broke the rules end of, hence t 1st breach.. *Forests more difficult to prove cos of being a 'floating club' btwix the Prem/Ch'ship where different capped expenditures are allowed.* £41-46mill max over f EPL as opposed to the £105mill in Prem, altho they're overspending on all them (20ish) new players on re-entering Prem dont help; it WEREN'T mere coppers, pennies or £1s spent afterall).
Come on jags your a Blade if they have broke the rules they have broke the rules 🤪😎⚔️⚔️⚔️
Wrong , Jags USED to be a Blade , then like many other players, once Everton has touched you ……
All the blue scousers crying and blaming everyone else, the club broke the rules, got punished, broke them again and should get punished again Moral of the story- stop breaking the rules, simple really
Do you want a tissue? Your making more fuss than Everton supporters! Very sad for you
F.. em join super league.
We certainly don’t need this awful club in the premier league!
Evertonians just can't accept that their club cheated can they. They even pleaded guilty ffs 😂
Mitigating circumstances lad
Why would the Premier League want Everton or any club relegated? Makes no sense. Everton broke the rules,simple.
It's the points deduction that's the issue
Everton have not had a penalty in 15 months thx to awful Ref and VAR decisions.
What a coincidence, when dyche was a Burnley he complained they hardly got any pens. Could it be his way of playing by any chance? Ie the more times you get the ball in the box on the ground the more chance of a pen. He relays on crosses and Ariel duels which very rarely results in a pen.
@@kevinspeller7403 I like a Gud conversation but unfortunately yor talllking threw yur rse
@kevinspeller7403 Have a look at the pens we haven't been given first. Also consider we have had more penalties given against us. And our xG shows that we do get in the opponents penalty area.
Football is finished,anyone who pays to see the defenders having more of ball than wingers strikers ,,bring back the 70s 80s ,before the overpaid women started the acting
Try living in Merseyside we've listened to this waffle 4 dacades 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢.😂😂