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UFC Hall of Famer Daniel Cormeir joins the Pivot in a special conversation after his recent 2022 Hall Of Fame Induction in Las Vegas.
One of the trailblazers for the UFC and former light heavy weight and heavy weight champion, Cormier, known as DC, is one of the most respected and gifted athletes to come out of the sport.
Channing and Fred have been waiting for this moment to have DC, who is Ryan's co-host on their ESPN UFC show, finally sit down with the group. It doesn't take long for the three of them to join forces and team up against Ryan on everything and anything that comes up.
DC, a Louisiana native like Ryan, shares how his upbringing didn't expose him to a lot outside his community and that pursuing wrestling instead of football molded him to have a different childhood. Watching his parents work multiple jobs and stay positive through tough situations helped him develop a "no quit" work ethic and was the foundation for his long prosperous career.
Detailing his journey of loss and struggle, DC talks about how the difficulties in his life only helped propel him to the next level of success and only work harder. Losing his daughter tragically, his father on Thanksgiving and mother recently...his journey hasn't been a clean one but how he was able to bounce back better from adversity is his message. DC shares that without all life's adversities, he wouldn't have all the fortune, the success and the accomplishments he has today.
Currently a commentator and tv personality for the UFC, DC gives praise and talks the differences of the modern day athlete vs the ones during his time and also talks about Conor McGregor, Floyd Mayweather and Jon Jones, recalling his bouts against Jones, who he still doesn't respect and explains why he has never been able to make peace with that part of his career.
The guys laugh their way through some of the tougher moments in the conversation and share an important life message for anyone who may be experiencing hardships on their journey and open up about fatherhood and the roles they serve in their children's lives.
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That crying thing DC mentioned is empathy. It happens to me all the time. As a grown man with a better understanding of life; I truly and honestly do not want to see other people hurt or suffer. Seeing others in pain I can damn near feel it…
Facts couldn't said it any better 💯
Real shit we as men in our environment are groomed not to show emotion or be emotional. So the more you hold in and the more you grow as a person it just needs to come out. Me having kids young saved my life and helped realize that showing emotions is needed.
Exactly bro. I know these feelings too well. I'm ok with it though.
Same bro! Well said.
Same man...people call if soft it ain't soft ..
If you didn’t like DC it’s gonna be hard to hate dude after this interview. Living Legend👏
Such a likable guy tbf, Good personality too
Facts …
Most of the hate was because he fell for Jones play. People knew DC wasn’t like that but he let Jones bait him in
@@brandanellis2953made one of the entertaining combat sports beefs in history tho
@@brandanellis2953 EVERYONE always loved and respected DC, even his opps.
Listening to him talk about his relationship with Jon Jones from a personal and professional lens was powerful. I love that he kept going back to “that dude was so gifted but he wouldn’t let himself be great.” That’s a perfect description of Jones from someone whose legacy is forever linked to him.
I mean kinda silly though, he is one of the greatest of all time in the sport. Dude is absolutely a hall of famer, unless they screw him over and don't give it to him for his out of the cage antics.
@@SHAiD- but that is debatable when it shouldn't be. It could have been so much greater and no one can deny it. If Jones had a calm mind outside the cage he would have been double champ for years now
@@SHAiD- Nobody screwed Jon over but himself man. Outside the ring.. well we all know. Inside the ring, he's had too many incidents that automatically put an ! beside his name. So he's not actually deserving of entering the hall of fame as he has not represented himself or the sport very well. But I could see them doing it at some point but hopefully not for a long time as it won't do him any good at this stage of his life.
@@SHAiD- Barry Bonds in a way
I feel this, but also jones wasn’t even training and was merking these fuckin guys. That’s not steroids. Steroids doesn’t make you a smart fighter. Jones is a technical genius. His use of distance and having an 84” reach as a 6’4 fighter was used as a huge weapon. Steroids helps with not getting tired and not need to recover, and having some extra strength In some situations. His suspensions will follow him, but he still would have beat anybody regardless of that.
Conor McGregor 17:57 Jon Jones 24:00 Anthony Johnson 25:30 Foreigners dont shower 26:40 Jon Jones rivalry 27:30 Stipe Miocic 35:09 Cain Velasquez 50:20 DC pushes little girl 50:55 DC confronts a father 51:10 TSA guy 51:40 Phil Hawes 53:03 DC out of shape 53:30 Medical issues 57:45
Ur the goat
Ty
Hero
Thx
Thanks baby cheeks
Daniel Cormier is 10x more hilarious when around other black people 😂😂
Facts😂😂😂 get him up out that suit and he a funny dude 😂
He doesn't have to code-switch dawg.
Definitely
Daniel is dialect chameleon. Put him around some brothers and all the sudden he has some twang in his voice. Get him around some Russians and the dude barely speaks English.
Bruh he’s just being himself now….. certain jobs require you to talk different that’s just the business
“Holy sh*t i’m on my stomach, I know i’m not suppose to be here” 😂 This whole episode was HILARIOUS!
26:02
True, this whole episode is hilarious
😂
HANDS DOWN THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST INTERVIEWS TO DATE! DC is HILARIOUS when he’s chilling with the fellas and uncensored. I loved this episode.
Deontay Wilder took that
This my first time watching this one and usually I can’t sit through many full interviews but I’m dialed in. It’s a good flow and conversation
@@ldturner watch Deontay Wilder’s.
@@ballritualzprod I actually did watch his. It was a good one too. I’m not sure why DC is all over my algorithms but that’s what lead me to watch this one lol
@Chiku yeaaaa and white people bond soo well discussing great things about black people and don't ever say anything wrong about black people at all smh great way to try to separate things by using race smh,
DC's energy is infectious that you have no reason not to love this guy. Awesome interview as always...Keep it rolling Bros!!!
I was surprised he didn’t touch on his daughters death a bit more because she didn’t just die in a car accident. His daughter died to a DRUNK DRIVER who caused it. That had to have made him despise Jones more because of the many DUIs Jones has had and him not showing any real remorse for his actions.
DC is my older cousin, & he is right about playing football in front of Northside. He had us in full pads tackling each other in the Louisiana HEAT. We also would wrestle on the side of the house made wrestling belts out of cardboard. When my family didn't have a place to stay My Aunt & Uncle took us in, we lived together for some years. We used to do a lot of things growing up. Man, we used to do foolish things as well. I am so proud of DC to see where we were as kids and now as adults is a blessing coming from the Northside of Lafayette,La
Yeah… ok
@@ricojohnson6351 right🤣🤣🤣🤣 some people are just ridiculous lol
@@ricojohnson6351 LOL
@@ricojohnson6351 🤣🤣🤣
@CoreyAndrus those were the best times of our lives! He made life fun!!! Everytime he came home.
DC is a great role model. He has overcome so many obstacles but has remained positive. His success is the fruit of his positivity and hard work.
Except Jon Jones
@@kanairsforte23 the 2x title vacated trash bag of the world? I believe DC walked away with the title after their last fight
Except for the fact that he's a CHEATER.....he's now even admitted to "the towel trick" to make weight...the ONE time cheating has actually been witnessed directly by everyone...
@@strick8008 No one watches MMA for "character"....MMA is about who is the best fighter and Jones beat DC down every time....Jones OWNS DC and the space in DC's head
@@strick8008 0-1-1
Love this dude bro. Been knowing Daniel since N.P Moss and played football with him at Northside. He’s definitely came a long way and we’re so proud of what’s he’s becoming. Much love D from big Paddy
Respect
Man DC is special... He is a legend, not just as a wrestler or a HoFer, but as a man. RC is also a respectful King! Never tries to make it about himself, always gives others flowers.
Absolutely love the honesty of DC!!! So humble at the same time knowing he's an all-time great!!!
That Fred's question about his father allowed DC go deep, I love the way these guys host the show and draw deep questions out of their guests
My guy is a legend. Only time I met him in Stillwater he offered me his own food. speaking about his mom he honored her with his actions from what I saw.
This is the exact type of conversation any bunch of dudes would be holding in the backyard over a grill. Love it!!!!
Never heard DC speak. Never knew much about him. He had me crying laughing. I’m now a fan of him. I love this show. Thanks for letting your guests speak. Thank you for the atmosphere you create. Years from now we will be talking about how this show has changed the entire landscape of interviewing and having honest conversations. I love you guys and if you were a stock I’d invest all that I could because y’all going all the way up. Thank you
Check out his podcasts. They're legit
Mle menopause is setting in menopause though that also just stay positive. 👌
Well said bra
Lmao do you watch the ufc like at all. He's been an announcer for like 5 years now.
@@yourwoifeisinmedms5256 I didn't say ever card. I said he's be an announcer for 5 years . You can read right?
This got to be one of the funniest episodes ever.... DC said "I thought this Russian in his hometown and he didn't shower..." The moment he smelled the stench he was already defeated 😂😂😂😂😂
👀
TIGER KNEE MVP
GAME OVER LMAO
i never seen this side of DC, this was dope
Wait a minute!!
I was never a huge DC fan, but this was probably one of the best defiantly the funniest episode ya'll have done. DC really had my stomach hurting on this one. I appreciate it.
DC is a lovable guy
It baffles me that people don't like him.
Defiantly? Lol
Facts! I watch this Pivot every night.
Man cant believe DC kept it together talking about his late daughter and then his mother. That must be tough. God bless brother
I love the honest conversation . It's so refreshing to just watch and listen.
They need a timestamp guy 🥺
Don't be always watching and listening Dee Dee. Get involved Dee Dee. Cmon naw
@@TanRicky321 do they still sell em at the post office? Gee times is changing
How is it refreshing? It’s not an ice cold lemon sofa lol
@@Onewayticket1000 a lemon sofa 🛋. Are they good?
They should add this dude as a regular on the show. DC’s conversation is great! Congrats on another great show fellas!!!
DC plate too full with 3 social pods already
@@track-lash3337 what are they called?
@@thatguy2.09 he's got his own stuff on YT and the DC & RC show. Aside from those and him commentating, that's all I'm aware of
@@InspectorButters4 I believe he coaches too
I feel you. It was so natural and his convo skill are amazing.
DC has lost major people in his life. Crying isn't an emotion because you are sad, it's understanding what makes life beautiful. Love the honesty DC!
I GOT A WHOLE NEW RESPECT FOR DANIEL. SALUTE TO CUZ.
DC's Louisiana accent was coming in & out throughout the interview! I Love It
If you wasn't on the floor crying laughing in the first 2 minutes then something is wrong. This jawn had me howling, but already 238K views under 24 hours. This is the power of The Pivot Podcast. It is so powerful, and educational with the interviews they have done, plus the interviews that are due to come out
u right. subscribed.
I'm telling you! I'm at work laughing like hell! Lol
Only 238k views, that's pathetic
You're trying too hard.
@@qedydu5946 what's wrong with you?
This was a awesome interview. I have a new found respect for Daniel…I misread this man for years based on his public perception from the Jones fights. Great job!! Hats off to Daniel and all he’s accomplished.
It's crazy how Jon Jones was the one doing wrong but DC ended up catching all the hate. He's a good guy and deserves the respect that he has now.
Daniel was my biggest role model when I first started watching ufc and he hasn’t let me down since ❤️
Fred's impression of Channing got me crying fr
This interview was SO GOOD! It had my husband and I rolling! But seriously, I always learn so much about the athletes, actors and guests on this show! Just top tier interviews…. My guys NEVER disappoint 🙌🏽
FACTS !!!!
Shout out to DC! Congrats on the HOF induction - well deserved!
Excellent interview! This interview has totally changed my thoughts about DC. Thanks to you guys, and thanks to DC for answering the person questions. That has never happened for me. Great job
Such a perfectly balanced blend of personalities and honestly, best crew for interviews with a combat sports athlete, or athlete of any endeavor I've come across in a LONG, LONG time. One of the best out there, without a doubt.
When I was younger I couldn’t stand DC but as his career progressed and we got to know him I fell in love with this guy. One of my favorite UFC champs ever pure class act !
Youve always loved him stop the cap
The Jones dc beef made me hate dc so satisfying he got beat senseless twice
@@mayflower4082 How did it make you hate DC. Jones was the one who hit a pregnant woman with his car, abused his wife and used steroids lmao
@@goby3807 trash human beings attract trash human beings
Don’t get why anyone would dislike DC at any point. Always been a class act.
I've watched a lot of their shows multiple times. When I rewatch any of the episodes, I've found something that I missed. These episodes are put together very well!
Dc came in second place so many times but never gave up on himself and realized his potential. That’s why he is number one today and a hall of famer.
I used to literally hate DC for no reason. I sat down and watched, learned and opened my heart. This man inspired me to continue wrestling and also become a coach. Aside to Coach Brian Smith. DC is one of the greatest wrestling coaches and hilarious mofos I've seen. GILROY HIGH SCHOOL!!!!
I hated the dude so much too before during the Jones vs DC era for no reason at all! Learned to respect the shit out of him since retirement and he is a great dude
He is good dude ..so is the whole AKA screw ...may be rockhold bit cocky...but khabib cane and dc are absolute legends..look at khabib he spends his time and energy and lots of money on this crew even though he not be there man
Thats why u never judge a book by its cover…..
@Anthony Galloni hahahahahahahaha!!! Liberally smoking this weed
@@katana_3558 Agreed. I've been a legitimate fan for a while. I wrestled in Arizona with Joe Riggs and a few others. Cane was at ASU. Brock was at Washington. I hadn't legitimately heard of DC until I was older. HE came off really white washed and needy to me. I didn't respect him much. Khabib I've been a fan of for many years. He was actually the reason I gained interest in Sambo
The pivot podcast is quickly becoming the best in the game
I've only watched UFC here & there. I love, I got to learn something new. These guys are gladiators. Much respect. You guys are doing a phenomenal job. Sharing stories, and the humanity that's out there we don't get a chance to hear & see.
I gotta watch more episodes of this podcast!! There's so many good pods out right now it's hard to keep up with all the ones I want to lol. "The Pivot" has such a relaxed and fun feel tho it's like being a fly on the wall, just listening to the boys shoot the breeze....I love it!! Shoutout to DC and FREE CAIN!!!
Daniel Cormier... I love this, we went to Northside High School together, being from Lafayette he represents us well! We love your journey, we respect you, and wanna give you your flowers as a man! This interview was so you, and glad they got to see the DC we grew up with. Keep pushing fam, much love!
This is the most open I’ve seen DC. And I’m so glad we got to see this. It’s amazing and he is just as genuine as he is on TV
DC is so cool. I love the guy. A true champion in so many ways. Respect for the champ 🙏
This is hands down the best podcast you guys have done and I respect dc even more now. He’s a true idol and legend. True to himself and the people , hilarious podcast, keeps getting better and better
Man DC is such a down to earth man and he just a really honest and humble man in general. U guys get a-lot of love from us in the military seen a-lot of my shipmates and marines watch this show just because of you three’s energy and bond so keep up the great work.
Honest and humble? He's the LAST person that should open his mouth about cheating since he's the ONLY person that has been witnessed cheating in MMA history....there are tons of accusations and drug tests, but no one saw anyone take any drugs, no one watched the drug test being conducted...you are trusting a stranger....but we ALL SAW Cormier grab that towel to make weight...it was on camera, witnessed by all and recorded for posterity....he is a CHEATER.
The critique I have of the show is that they should’ve started the podcast sooner. 💪🏾 Leading sport podcast right now!
Haha, if only BMarsh started tripping sooner.
@@dnicmartinez lmao you a fool for that 😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@dnicmartinez 🤣🤣🤣🤣
An absolute pleasure to watch. First time watching the Pivot. DC is the man and I'll watch this show again
This is my favorite episode you guys have had this far. Great job.
I'm now a DC fan, the pivot is the best KZhead podcast today. RC, Channing and Fred keep on doing what you guys are doing. I was always a Jon Jones fan now you guys turn me into a DC fan I didn't know he was that funny 😆 Good Job guys.....
no no it sucks
Same.
The best? It’s good but it doesn’t have shit on JRE.
@@iZephiroth what's JRE?
@@Devintru Joe Rogan Experience.
Y'all guys really be absolutely killing it I love the energy between y'all the OG silent wisdom of Fred Ryan's intellect and knowledge as the lead moderator and of course Channing being Channing no matter what guests they are salute on being the best podcast out there with these legendary guest
Channing is gonna be a star in 2-3 years
BIG FACTS
Channing is a star and a shock jock and a real man no matter what win lose or draw. He is head up with Andy and everybody! Great energy always.
The trio is perfect but Channing will have his own show in the very near future.
@@RoxkStrP ic
Went to all the vids I watched and gave a thumbs up. This show is real special, keep the crew solid.
This was amazing. Thank ya'll for this.
Hard not to love DC. True warrior. His relationship with what must've felt like unrelenting adversity is incredible. Never quit.
As a Jon Jones fan I can honestly say this was refreshing to see this side of DC. Through the rivalry I only got to see one side so im glad they were able to shed some light on the real DC. Amazing Podcast fellas. DC got a new fan!!
Why would you come to the comments to bring up DC’s dad?
@@Cts_99 lol
Ole boy must mean DC's unavailable juiced up pops.
They weren't even steroids 🤦🏾♂️
@@JohnWick-gl6mw it was a bad substance something to help him get an extra advantage against DC every time they fall obviously he was scared that he could lose so he did some extra shit and got pop for it stop making excuses he's a cheater
Daniel is so open here. I like this glimpse at him.
I met DC father in law he was a client of mine, he spoke very highly about DC. Very standup guy. He loves his family very much.
“You were never in shape” Channing you messed up 😂😂😂 - Honestly amazing episode getting to learn more about Daniel’s upbringing and what that means for himself, his kids, and his legacy. Great job y’all 🔥
@bernard martin No doubt peak athletic physique
Channing all the way 💯 and not just throwing flowers and waving Pom poms @DC like everyone in MMA . No way in hell DC was really serious about fighting cuz of how much he ate . He was noticeably folding to the body shots by Jones and Stipe
There’s a video of khabib saying “everyone think he’s fat old man but grab him brodda he’s like a rock”
@@track-lash3337 DC was actually really fit and had great cardio.
@@track-lash3337 he was never serious about his nutrition and diet but to say he was never serious about fighting is a massive reach lmao
I'm glad that over the years more and more people realize that DC is a good dude. He's a humble man with pride.
Man I love this show. It’s funny, but so many impactful moments. Thank you 🙏🏾 for all you do. Your brothers and your producers are next level. When are you getting Barrack?
Man you can tell DC was being himself. You can hear that Louisiana in him heavy!!!
DC, you are the man dude. I laughed so hard because my dad is the same age as you , a bit older but he's going through that exact same thing. I look over while we were watching a movie and he starts tearing up lol I appreciate it a lot. He used to never show emotion and so I think it's awesome. It's healthy and makes ya stronger.
Listening to this is like being in the room cracking up and appreciating the energy in the room.
Amazing interview, insight and advice. Great job guys! 🙏
I love it when they have an interview with someone that you don’t really know, and the person blows you away with their real personality
THANK YOU, GUYS! THIS WAS FUN! Channing and DC's interaction was classic!
Much respect to DC could hear him speak all day!
I remember rooting against DC in both Jones fights and Rumble Johnson fight and I never gave him credit as Champ because of never beating JJ… I see him now and he’s such a class act and a Champion. I’m a fan.
This is such a stupid comment that shows you the fickle mentality of people in general. So you never gave DC credit as a champion because be lost to jones. But now that you saw an interview and you like him; you respect DC now? So weird. Salute to DC!
@@manman3792 lol yes ppl are fickle, humans are fickle. You were fickle just now. Welcome to MMA, welcome to human nature.. it’s part of growing as a person.
I freakin Love this podcast. I look forward to it EVERY Tuesday and pray for Friday drops. I’m convinced it’s the Greatest Show On Earth.
This is the type of love and respect we all should show to each other. We can still joke on each other and talk shit but, still keep a level of respect where people aren’t arguing and screaming at each other. This is so good for the culture!! 🏆💯💪🏾🔥
This is the type of interview i revist again and again
appreciate the realness and the honesty from cormier! much respect my guy!
Hometown right there…Lafayette‘s own!! Proud of you!!
DC has really grown on me over the last few years. Growing up as a teenager and adolescent I was a Jon Jones stan.. getting older and maturing I realised DC was the real role model and man of character instead of Jones. What a fighter and overall great dude. Respect
no one said Jon was a role model.... but dont kid ypurself Jon is the GOAT
Jones has nothing to do w this. U don’t hv to put down jj to compliment dc🤣🤣
Jones tried to act like one with all the politically correct answers and religion bullshit though. He should have been himself ( the heel/sociopath) from the start and just embrace that role. I agree on him being the greatest fighter to ever step foot in an octagon. The drug test fails will always be something that can be used against him though. And I can’t blame people for doing that
@@ricojohnson6351 bro, just saying that I was such a huge JONES fan, I hated DC for being his rival. As years went on, I started to like the dude for who he was. He’s seems like a funny, honest, stand up dude and made me feel guilty for not liking him. Big fan now..
@@mariocomrad Prime example of why celebrities can't have fans as friends. They will turn on you eventually
I love these interviews,.. I low key forgot I wasn't there lol,... felt like I was kicking it chopping it up with the homies,.. Great job
Damn man, the layers in this interview. This pod is so good. I learned something about myself......and it's that Channing is my spirit animal.
Yesterday watching “Remember The Titans” I caught myself crying, I’m 35 and I’ve watched that movie 30 times. I’m glad I can relate. I needed this episode so I won’t feel like something is wrong with me lol
Lmaoo its a mix of memories if you played football and sometimes we just need to see a W 🤣🤣
34 y.o. here, hardly shed a tear since I was 15 when my Dad died all through my twenties, but lately find I am crying like a baby a heap it is weird 🤦🏾♂️😭 but I guess it is ok as men we cry real man tears sometimes
Remember The Titans too, hard to get through that one dry-eyed!
Everytime I see ig post of like a long lost family member reuniting I tear up lol I was balling when I watched the series finale of supernatural 😂 I’m 37. That was 35 I think. 😅
Daniel Cormier is such a down to earth dude.
What a great great podcast! I’ve become a huge RC fan this past year. Awesome crew all around guys, props!!! 💪🏼💪🏼👊🏽
He is hilarious!!!!!!!!! I wasn’t going to watch this episode because I don’t know much about MMA fighters but this was so good. Much love & respect to to DC. To the pivot… you guys are great. I love this podcast so much. 💕🙏🏽
I love how they jump right into the action!
One of my favourite fights was the 1st Jones- DC fight. It was intense and neither was willing to yield an inch. It was inspiring, even Jones & DC’s reaction immediately after the fight showed both men had sacrificed so much. Despite the steroid failures of Jones, there rivalry was unmatched.
Facts. That shit was historic. In the era before the UFC was sweet.
Love DC! So glad folks are getting to see this side of DC. Great Pod!
First time I’ve seen this podcast, great questions, great format keep it up 👍
I can't get of enough of this podcast. I sit and wait to see when the next one is, and I have enjoyed each episode. Keep them coming. Thanks Gentlemen. Nothing but The Best!!!
Wasn't a big DC fan before but dude has grown on me. So much respect for him and it's nice to see this side of him. Perfect example of only seeing one side of a person and not really knowing who they are.
Man I stay re watching this specific one every time I do I be dying 😭 man y’all chemistry is second to none then it’s only brothers on top of that dawg ❤️🔥
Absolutely great interview guys 🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
46:00 As a teacher, I commend dude for putting his kids on Khan Academy. Shit works. Helps for everything and is free SAT prep.
37:56 Man i must be on the same wave link as DC! He has me tearing up as I'm driving my kids 3 hours to go watch a soccer match along with their grandparents (my parents). Mad respect to all the real dads out there 🙏🏼
Foreal. Dude had me crackin up talking about punching dudes when they are down.. then 2 min later had me tearing up talking about his daughter dying and his moms.
My favorite DC interview yet💪🏿💪🏿!!! Excellent work fellas!!!
I already liked Daniel alot... after seeing this.... I'm sold bruh. Great dude. Happy for his success. Truly deserves everything he could ever get.
This is one of the best and most entertaining interviews of any kind I’ve seen in a long time. Good stuff Pivot gang! 👏🏾
Such a good interview!!! He needs to tell this story in a book!!! i loved this interview. Well done fellas.
One of the best interviews!!!
D.C. big salute this convo put a lot of things into perspective
this one was absolutely hilarious. Channing and DC got some pretty good chemistry
DC talking about his dad's hit home. Much love to all the Stepfathers out there who raised us as if we were their own.
Naw facts I almost cried at that part lmao
@@Ralfheem bro I spilled a few tears no lie
I appreciate what you fellas are doing. Keep it up.
Absolutely brilliant interview! Hats off lads👏🏼
This is such a great interview. I already love dc but you guys made the interview so much better