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Thank you, You've helped me and many other people get better at the game. I just wanted to leave a small donation to show my appreciation.
Thank you soooooooooo much! You have no idea how much this means to me! Glad the content is helping!
Drive better then
@@MisterMacheteSounds like they are getting better!
In most cases your race got ruined by randoms dive bombing you and the top players already slipstream each other
exactly. the dive bombings gotta stop fr
And some of them ram you off on their slipstream trains 😅
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Burnout did it better
Thank you
I would say the best advice is just don't get discouraged and try to have fun. Grand races are madness and they're funny, just enjoy them! I have 474 hours in the game and I felt like I was never getting any better. But I got my first podium the other day and I don't usually DNF races anymore, which is progress. It takes a long time!
If I've learned anything from the GR's it's just to have a good time racing, I was getting so mad when I would be up front and end up in the back. Over and over again I rage quit, watching Trigger just showed me I had the wrong attitude going in. I'm starting to get the jist of the races and settings. It's only a matter of time before I start placing on the podium.
In every racing game You need skill and knowledge of the track, nothing else matters
They should really add an option to preview the map/route while you select your cars in the lobby
Tip 26 - Abort when you are on the same race with Simgii and Goliath, they will slipstream and just 2 places finish 😂😂😂❤ Besides that what a great video trigger, not only you are trying to help other being a faster driver, but also being a better person on track to others. Fairplaytcm right, if u bump someone, give the position back, its only a race vs your image to the community. Thanks for the dedication and work on this videos 💪
You’re welcome and thanks for the compliments!
That chart explaining what each pro setting does at 10:00 is exactly what I've been looking for this whole time, the in-game descriptions weren't really clear to me and no other KZheadr has covered it beyond just "feeling it out"
I do plan to go into depth with a video in the future. It’s just a VERY difficult video to make. Showing examples and proving what I am saying is super difficult because a lot of tuning is feeling. Anyways, it will be made…in time
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I can feel understand for what I've relearn of this video. Thanks for advice and I can be only hope to make the very best of it. Obviously, be a good sportsmanship and respect other players in TCM Grand Race.
This is one of those videos that people who are new to the game months later will appreciate showing up in the search results. Great video 🎉
Thank you so much!
Mistake #1 .. racing to win. Statistically your chances are very very very low. Especially when you add in the fact that the "sweats" are the ones having fun and winning which leads them to grand race more and decreases the chances you wont have one of them in your lobby and if there's 2 they're slipstreaming and will lose you quickly. Probably your best chances are on a Saturday morning (thats only time ive consistently gotten top 5 but may have been just luck), but if you want to win pvp, go play nfs as you may get a 1v1 with another casual/newbie
Love the tips about the pro settings! My enjoyment of the game went WAY up when I started making my own tunes. Even if they technically may be not be optimal compared to better players, I found the act of learning a car and making intentional decisions about the changes to be incredibly helpful and satisfying.
Trigger, man, I gotta tell ya. Your emphasis on slipstreaming has helped me so much. I'm from the south so we call it drafting, so I didn't really know for sure what you were talking about early on. But I now realize how much of a difference it makes, i'm not where I wanna be yet, but I'm getting better, thanks to your videos like this and honestly, a lot of others. You really are helping people enjoy the game more and it's much appreciated.
Bro go outside touch some grass and get a job
You have reminded me of that time that I went first the whole race but I didn’t know the route, until at 70% I was reached and surpassed by the whole package. Or the time I went first and nothing less than simgii disappeared from behind me to reappear 100 meters in front. Knowing the shortcuts is absolutely essential if you want to be competitive, otherwise, do the best you can and enjoy it like I do 🤷🏻♂️✌️
Good tips! I will add that you are awarded more NOS the further back your placement is at the beginning of the race. Don't use it all up to get to the front because once you get there the front place drivers now have a full a full bottle and yours is empty.
Best TCM video - probably ever. I'm sure a lot of people will benefit from it. I consider myself closer to your level (though not as fast) than the level of the average player and even I can feel the disparity between the leaders and the midpack growing rapidly. To add my 2 cents: #2 tip - I often let players that i know are faster than me pass me, then use their slip and possibly even learn their better corner lines/cuts. #9 tip - In a haipin turn, even overbraking + guttering will often result in better time than executing a turn well without gutters. people seem to be afraid of overbraking imo. #16 tip - I use this situation to try maybe try out a new, riskier cut that I wouldn't do if I was in 1st or battling for 1st. To me it's the perfect opportunity for that.
Great context and examples. I’m sure others can learn from that pov! Thanks!
I watched this video about a month ago and I promise you it improved my placement drastically… I now consistently place top 5 but I never found a good random to slipstream with, im usually fighting the whole race for whatever position im in. Would be nice to get this video more known in the crew community because all my races have randoms just smacking me around the map emoting 🤦🏿♂️
I've been trying to get better at the gutter turns everything else I've got down pretty well but the tips on using NOS have helped me tremendously thanks for the help and keep up the great vids !
One very important tip is to have a good tv, with a good refresh rate. As soon as I upgraded my tv last week, I've been competing for top 3 almost every race, and got my first win yesterday
Another mistake I keep seeing and the mistake I did is at those zigzag roads where it goes to the left then to right don’t use the boost in the middle only use a tiny bit and gutter when you are done with the zigzag you then use the boost
though there are still Rammers, after i watched this very video, i noticed i was improving, a bunch. I ended up in sixth 2 times a row. Decent, but i could do better. I learned to use Drag Bump more, and I learned to boost slightly more when i try to get to slipstream range. I also have BETTER Nos management. I also improve on my gutters. yesterday i was grand racing with simgii. I watch his stream and i noticed how good he was. I kept on saying "I suck at grand races, How to get better." After that day, u posted this video, this glorious video that i've been needing FOR MONTHS. Trigger, i really cant thank you enough, i typed alot for this.Thanks to you for every helpful video you posted. i am a subscriber. and i love your videos. Your tips help. Thanks a bunch. -Nexus
AYEEEEE I WAS IN YOUR RACE LETS GO CAME IN FOURTH THO 😂. Can’t wait to race wit you again
This might sound self serving. But sometimes watch videos of players who dont get 1st most of the time. The reason i say this is. Driving in front and alone with no distractions. Is far different then always being the middle of the pack and getting bumped every now and then. But if you want to learn all about the track. Yes, always watch the best players. As youll get to see all the potential shortcuts and how far the best cars can be pushed. I do mostly come in top 5. But to get better i watch simgii and also trigger content. Its never ending learning that makes the grand race so much fun.
That video was super helpful dawg!! Appreciate the tips Trigger
Great video bro!! Much needed
lot of things i didnt realize after hundreds of hours in this game, thank you!
Thank you Trigger You are the Only Serious Content Creator on KZhead for Motorfest and Crew2!!! Please keep it real always and keep up with both games as it is still a Need to Know world out here for us dedicated Players!!!🎉❤😮😅
You’re welcome! And thanks for the support!
You really need a "guide" playlist. this just randonly showed up now after two weeks of searching for guides like this
Your pro settings have helped me greatly aside from the Summits. My pro settings have helped me tune my cars to my comfort level.
Damn trigger... Those are a lot of good tips. A lot of those are learned the hard way and with time behind "the wheel," but you teaching the new racers actually benefits everyone. Keep up your good work. At about 400+ hrs on this game from September till this very day, I can admit that I don't know it all. Hell, most of the time, I still feel I suck at this, and that's why I always check yours simgiis and the other pros videos. Always looking to get better. And for all your help(and I know this is not much but)I just subscribed
Thanks for the Tips Trigger.! 😌👌🏻 Never saw the slipstream as so important, will definitively try to use it more.! 😄 The Sheet where you show what what pro settings Point does is also really nice.! The Suspension was always a Mysterium to me, think it will Help understanding what Happens in Games Like CarX too.. Thanks.! ✊🏻🙂
No problem!
I think this list is great! Ive noticed myself using these tips playing over the past few months and a few days ago i got 6th place in a lobby with simgii! Just focus on your own race and do your best and you'll win more.
I would say one of the things people most misunderstand about racing is that your average speed from start to finish matters a lot more than the top speed achieved in that race. For example, let's say you have a series of hairpin turns that's about half a mile long (so 2640 feet). If you take those curves at different average speeds, you get wildly different results. 50 MPH: 73 feet per second = 36 seconds 60 MPH: 88 feet per second = 30 seconds 70 MPH: 102 feet per second = 25 seconds 80 MPH: 117 feet per second = 22 seconds You could be driving a Koenigsegg Agera going 250 miles per hour on the straights, but if you lose all your speed in the hairpins, you're looking at 10-15 second losses just from that. Something like a Porsche 911 with a top speed of, like, 180 but a higher average cornering speed would annihilate it. And aside from that, the nice thing about Grand Race is not only do you get rewards even if you don't finish, your rewards are prorated based on how much higher or lower you were in your finishing position compared to your start position. So starting in 18th and finishing in 9th can be just as lucrative for the player as starting in 5th and finishing in 1st.
clean racing, i like that, mostly when the start is bad, your still have time to make the best out off it. learning is a must for a good result. trottle is your friend. play with your trottle in corners. road rage, it's not normal. be smart, butt fair. racing must be fun. thanks all for a nice race.
5:45 This vid is GOATED!!! I hope you make a Shortcuts video for the Grand Races, I almost always end up Top 8, but the people that know all the shortcuts easily beat me with those shortcuts. I've learned a few, but not all of them. I've DNF'd at the 5th Position, fr. It's insane hahaha.
Excellent Demonstration for Driving technics and Physics 🎉😮😅❤😂
I’ve completed game 100% but I just started playing Grand Races & highest I’ve placed is 9th because I constantly get dived bombed or knocked off the track & I clean race so it’s frustrating at times
great video keep it up man 👍
Great video trigger 👍🏽 im actually surprised you needed to make a video like this 🤔
Most Most important is Track Knowledge!!
One thing i want to point out regarding grand race. You need to decide if you want to be good in grand race but also want to try different cars. Just for the fun of it. Or you want to be the best at grand race. Being the best will require you to use only the best cars and keep using them again so you get to be perfect in those cars. However, this might lead to boredom and you stop playing the grand races. Myself, i enjoy trying different cars and enjoy the process of trying all kinds of cars. I know because of that the chances of myself winning grand races is low. But what i love about grand races is that i can use new and different cars every week. For me this makes the playing grand races worth it. So its upto you to decide how you want to play grand races. From experience i can tell you. Youll make more than enough money to buy weekly cars even if you just get in top 5 in grand races. Which is what i usually get.
Im the same but im at a point i actually do win the races with non-meta cars, it feels so good winning and showing people with 911 and hurracns that someone won without using meta cars
@DanDolme that's great actually. It does feel more satisfying winning with a car this is not considered the best in class.
The chart at 10:00 is pretty straight to the point, but I don’t think enough people bring up the fact that tweaking your aero can be pretty detrimental on tracks with a lot of hills and elevation changes. Wether that means completely losing the fronts while going over a hill or the rear snapping out ppl kinda use aero a little too much sometimes as a quick fix but it’s track dependent
I’ve been playing racing games for a very long time and these tips apply to all racing games folks 💡
Also, if the race features a car type you aren't comfortable with like drift, then wait for the next race. Drift grand races are always a bloodbath
Thanks Trigger u helped a lot👍
Trigger, YOU COOKED with this video.
I can’t tell you how many time get knocked to dead last and I end up top 10 or better even won it twice like that it’s not over till it’s over
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6:08 BRO. The amount of times I've lost positions to that shortcut there is INSANE hahaha, I always stick to the road and just see people coming from the sky at that part. PLEASE DO A SHORTCUTS VIDEO!!!
I can definitely work on it.
Thanks Trigger, now i can get better in these races.
Hi Trigger I have this question that since I play using a keyboard I don't get the option to tweak my deadzone to zero and change other settings like max lock and sensitivity....so is there any way we can edit these settings while using a keyboard for gaming since I don't own a controller
Sometimes during transition you shift up then when the car appears you’re still red lining. (Like I see the gear shift up then when the car appears it shifts back down by itself) I’m sure it’s happened to you before
Yes, the redline is unavoidable. You’ll need to shift up after it spawns in, but as far as shifting down and slowing down, you can do that. :)
great tips!!
If the pack separated you can focus on gutters, but if your at the start and with the whole pack it's gonna be hard to take corners of players dive bombing everyone
Great great video bro keep it up 👏♥️
Thanks, will do!
I need to get consistent I go 6th the 18th but I generally go for cars I have more control with rather then high top speed but I'm best in street 1 and 2 worst at AGP and rally
Great video 😊
AWD cars like the Bolide and Gallardo in the Racing category don't spin out in the dirt but they are not as good as the Camaro SS. Also, track knowledge is key and it's not something you learn quickly. Don't expect to win every race either.
Tbh for me it depends on player count and skill, if I'm super lucky and most the server is bad i usually end of 6th or 11th.
awesome video.. as always..
I for one give people the thumbs up to pass if I see them coming in hot then cut in behind for the slip, a few even give me thumbs up back to pass but some get pissed and ram you, so tactics are needed to trick them
Asian and Australian servers reg here, based on my personal experience, most of the players here are simply made most of the mistakes mentioned, and oh, you can find lots of sweats here
I don’t feel like a lot of this matters when all the top players are already miles ahead by the time you can even be competitive once you’ve fought through the pack of bad drivers blocking your lines or trying to run you off the road. If you don’t have a slipstream partner at a similar skill level to you, are using some sort of meta steering settings, or driving all meta cars (which is incredibly stale.) it’s essentially a coin toss as to where you’ll place.
Fax but each race I come like top 10 tho
I feel you. But I do have a question…the top players don’t automatically start at the front. They also have to navigate the madness to get to the front so if none of this matters…whats the difference between the players that make it to the front and the ones like you’re describing?
All you need to do is cheat by remembering all the scraping points, you know "racing" eyeroll genuinely surprised he doesn't mention it in this vid. That's the real secret to winning, just memorize all the best spots where the game actively lets you cheat by putting you ahead of where you where when you reset. "FUN"
I can all the triggers response to this. In one of his recent videos I got sent flying into the ocean which placed me back in dead last. I had drive my way back up to the top and actually finish. At that point I knew it wasn’t for a win but to finish. And it paid off because I ended up top 5. Yes I finished way behind the top leaders but I finished. I didn’t get DNF and I used most of the tips he is giving in this video.
@@MilitiaGamingCommunity Typically skilled players using meta cars get to the front of the pack before everybody else, especially if they are as mentioned, slipstream boosting, they can easily shoot ahead and be well out of reach before the end of the first leg of the race. Im a pretty consistent driver, but I almost never place consistently due to this. The midpack (for me being 10th to 3rd) is usually so spread out by the time the race is open-ended that you're basically locked into your position by the second leg, depending on the spec. I must state this is just my personal experience though.
Fully agree with every advice, except the one where you said to use meta cars. I don't like using the same Centiodieci or the same F40 every time. They're exceptional and beautiful cars. But using them every race gets absolutely boring. I hope that you can read this and debate this.
It’s getting sweaty out there, I have 320+ wins still getting tougher for me.
when i activate direct mode i cant drift in the drift playlist. and with drift cars on the street. the car will just not drift its like blocking the turns. in the hoonigan playlist it was absolutely no problem. o.O
Your f40 looks dope.
Shoutout to Shayne Baker
I’ve only had the game for a week but how do you know you’re in slipstream from so far away, is there an indicator that tells you?
Split stream Is overpowered But main problém Is wheelbase And controllers players !!! You must prepare fór corner And Slow Down but they run in full Speed And turn like peanut.
Nah
I hate to add this but it’s sometimes it is warranted, thats revenge. You have to G check some of these drivers because they think you can be a simp/pushover. Like today I was running P3 and driver who will remain nameless pushed me off the track and I never done anything to him/her/them/they. Don’t worry I got them back in blood by spinning them out just before the finish.
Tight corner so hard and brakes not good to . Do need breaks early?
Your my favourite Teacher!❤
Thank you! 😃
@@MilitiaGamingCommunityI think you should make a book about how to get good at motorfest trigger!
Thanks trigger
Is it just me or do i be seeing ppl with the same cars as me but faster than mine when my cars are maxed out (even without slipstream)
Thanks for this❤❤
It's a really nice video, tho I feel that is better to not always rely on meta cars to be better, you might be better at pace but you begin to be a one trick pony that indirectly relies on the car. Don't aim for bad cars tho, but I would recommend not always using the meta car of the day
Using the meta cars is important but tbh not as important than being CONSISTENT. Pick set of cars and stick with it until you are in the top 5 95% of the time.
Bro the only times i make It to top 15 someone Just ramdomly pushes me 20281929 times off Road and makes me spin
What is slipstream again?
if you race in real life its the same concept you want to get better watch racing on tv that will teach you how to use the course to your advatage knowing the line and where to go is half the battle. OR BETTER YET LISTEN TO THIS VIDEO HE TELLS YOU EVERYTHING!
Thanks for the compliment!!! 🔥
anytime my friend i like watchinmg your videos. @@MilitiaGamingCommunity
Trigger - This video is for people struggling with grand races and that arnt good enough to win Also Trigger - If you block it shows you are weak and not good enough 😂😂😂💀
lol. I see the irony in those 2 statements. I guess I’m trying to teach people to be strong…not weak.
I lost it when you said it lol I can't stand blocking or ramming either but man somtimes I'll be inches away from first on a tough race and it takes everything in me not to 🙃
So i agree with 99% of this whole video. But at the same time trigger while you said "blocking is frowned upon through out the community and makes you look weak". While i agree with that to the end of the universe i also say that using META CARS IS ALSO FROWNED ON. Picking the "meta car" to alot of us is basically saying "im weak and i don't have the skill to pick anything else". But good vid overall
I hear what you are saying and I do agree to a certain extent but you gotta think about who this video is speaking to. I wrote it with the person who is having a hard time finishing the race (because they are DNFing every time) in mind. Hopefully with this info, they can move up into the top 10 or even podium. Is the community really frowning upon players using meta cars who are getting DNF’d? You know what I mean?
@MilitiaGamingCommunity true. I feel you....much respect. I either make podium or top 10. Never came in 1st yet (due to my own decisions not to use meta cars)....but it is what it is.
so all the top players in the world are weak and don’t have the skill to pick anything else?? alrighty then lmao
@bran-rr an old saying: "a hurt dog will holler". If the shoe fits wear it kid
@@reginaldgriffin4978 I am not a top player so this does not affect me personally but sure 💀 Btw the difference between meta (e.g 993 and F40 in ST2) and a competent car (Corvette C8/C6, Porsche GT3RS, Diablo GT etc etc) is around 3 seconds, so if your not getting 1st atleast ONCE, there’s clearly another problem. Don’t be so arrogant to think that just your car choice is the reason you lose all the time.
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Thanks :) / would you also advice switching to manual transmission ? I noticed its faster when I am playing Summit but Gran Races are often a lil bit crazy & hectic. Also / huge thanks for your NFS unbound tunes. They got me several wins today 😁
My only mistake is using Automatic gearbox xD
Lol
Yea Ubisoft need to go ahead and Sponsor you or dedicate something to you.
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Hopefully i cant get out of my bad habits
Gosh i swear im pretty new at this game and i never fully completed a grand race before. Wich makes me rage quit almost every time. Its just unfair for newer players. We want to improve our skills but in a fair way. And not being laugh at for pro players. I just like the fact fot being made fun out.
It's obviously the Collision stupid and the non-skilled players
Get rid of the racing line asap.
Slipstream needs to be nerf
I’m not sure I agree, only because it’s not like you need a friend to do it. Anyone can slip with anyone. If they took it out of summits I wouldn’t shed a tear though.
the biggest thing is that you og guys have all the expierence and know the tracks the secret cuts and the new guys are just learning out plus im sorry but its realy boils down to skill most think ramming mfs is going to get them some where STOP RAMMING PEOPLE and learn how to change your pro settings when you get good this will be what you do.
am i the only one playing with keyboard?
See i want to love this game, but the constant cheaters and exploiters really ruin this game for me, I have like 90+ wins with like 900+ GR raced and multiple top 5s, but also the rammers kill it, the heavily unbalanced vehicles also kill this for me, so I straight up deleted this game
Genuinely surprised about the body kits... They are not supposed to effect performance, but I've deffintly been an avid believer in the wheel base mechanic since Crew 2 so I'll give it a shot. I'm top 5 a lot but can't get 3. lost it by a hundredth of a second yesterday. My big problem with this game is the scraping. That just ruins it for me. Shortcuts are fine, slipsteaming teams are kinda dumb, but whatever... IMHO memorizing the best place to just flatout botch a turn and then reset to be rewarded is just so flagrently cheating and it's totally against the spirit of racing in general. I botched a transition to rally so bad, I was driving into oncoming racers. when I reset I was at the head of the pack I had been driving into by like 2 seconds. That's when it clicked and my desire to even play a grand race again tanked. Winning doesn't even seem to matter as far as rewards go, you can get more reliable cash and XP flow elsewhere. This is just feeding the "I'm better than everyone else and need to prove it to everyone" FOMO brain hack we as a species are too suseptible to. But I digress. LOL Bring back the regular PVP modes from Crew 2 and make every car reset put you behind where you where, not ahead. Thanks for the advice in all the vids you make.
Never played Crew 2 sober, still somehow i managed to get to top 3! Xbox controller is huge advantage
Using only meta is extremely BORINGGGGGGG have fun use other cars you can win with ANY car hell i got top 3 with using 3 bikes
You can preach all you want to noob players make the game miserable
The whole meta stigma bullshit people must get over. If you're bitching about everyone using the fastest car you were probably that kid that kept changing the rules of a game when you were kids so you always were winning... Get good noob
lol this is all assuming that people know what they’re doing and that it’s not a complete shit show back in the middle of the pack. Once you’re in 16th it’s borderline impossible to catch up. Like people intentionally crash you out all the time back there. You might not be fighting for position on a corner but some 12 year old is and will not hesitate to put you in the dirt to do it. I love you militia but this was not helpful. You are expecting far too much from a very toxic community. Like nobody is going to let me slip into slippery slip stream and I struggle to fit into it in the first place. And then if I do get into it and do pace them 80% of the time they hit my back tire and pit maneuver me into the dirt, a wall, a tree. Then the repawns are so slow that it takes 20-35 seconds right now for me. All be it, I admittedly have unbearably atrocious internet connection. But still sometimes I blink and I’m respawned sometimes it takes me from 6th or 7th to 23rd. Like grand races are obviously very fun and it’s great to see that many people invested in the racing community for Mototfest but it’s gta levels of toxic once you fall out of the top 10. There needs to be some kind of time penalties for players that can’t drive without hitting players. Like obviously there is going to be to be some accidental contact here and there but for people who use you to bank their turns, or pit people they should literally freeze for 15 seconds as a ghost. I don’t play the game to have to deal with that crap, I play because I like cars and want to relax. But I can’t relax because the races are toxic and make me yell at the tv. I know that technology like that doesn’t exist yet and it is currently impossible to decipher the difference between incidental contact and blatantly trying to to wipe someone out but maybe with ai they can have a referee for each driver in the future.
I hear you. Honest advice, if I was you…I would limit my exposure to grand races and mostly play the playlist races and shoot for better times. Make personal goals like a certain spot on the leaderboard of the race. For example on Kyusha Spirit, the playlist vehicle is the NSX. Try to get a top 50 time. Check out the WR on yt and try to mimic the lines. Try to improve there. And maybe just throw in a grand race or two to switch it up. 🤷🏼♂️Might allow you to relax a bit more.
Too much rammer also there which make race worst
How come theres no boat grand races 🚤 ??