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Man, 8k is gonna look so amazing on my 1080p monitor
man you tole my line
Im keeping my eyes used to 1080p so i can have insane performance in the future
@@cicerojohn581 I play at 720 on my steam deck and it out performs consoles at that resolution. I just add a little fsr and the picture ends up crisp
I hate how consoles advertise 4K60 when it's clearly 1440p or 1080p to get 60fps.
They need to hype their crowd, if they say "upscale" they are not laying but really they are in principle.
cyberpunk wont run native 4k on my 4090 at even 40fps, are you basic? its down to the software
they upscale... and i thin its smart... 4K native is just beyond stupid.
dude they put 8k on the box on a five hundred machine never take them seriously they lie for sales !
@@wizzenberry Even now people struggle discern the difference between marketing and reality.
dont see the point of getting this if game devs keep locking frames at 30 or just poor performance overall
Complains about games being 30 fps Complains about upgrades to frames What am I missing here?
im not complaining lol these are facts...
Devs are locking it at 30 because the ps5 pro isn't out... Assuming it is real and does come out devs will update their games, you really said absolutely nothing here
@@rewpertcone8243 lmfao you came up with a theory not a fact gtfo you really think devs waited 3 years to wait to have stable performances when the ps5 can already do that? ok man...
@@perfectcelle371why do you think games are getting locked to 30 fps? Because the base aren't locking 60 or can't do without lowering the graphics. That's the point of upgrading, I don't understand how y'all are getting lost here
As a dev I don’t think that people understand how much power is required to get 4K 60 FPS. Let’s say you have 4K 30FPS and now you want 60 FPS. Now you need twice the performance. Same thing if go from 1440p to 2160p. You have twice the amount of data that needs to be processed. On top of this gamers also want more detail, not only higher output resolution. All of this increases the computations needed to be done in a frame. What upscaling allow us to do is to take the power that should have gone into pushing 4K into, more detailed textures, or more shadow casting lights etc. add any new technique you want. The power to do all of this and NOT have upscaling is just not there.
I own both consoles. Should I avoid this PRO version until PS6?
@@flawsome9058yes. I’d wager no differences will be seen until the end, if seen at all. Don’t let his comment fool you, weren’t we told that the ps5/xbsx would be powerful enough to do 4k/60fps? The devs hold the keys and honestly they shouldn’t have ever started chasing 4k as early as they did.
"aS a DeV" stfu go make ur mobile games
We get it, its just not our job to care. It's our job to buy something worth the money.. consoles are not. And its our job to complain so Devs and creators ACTUALLY improve it. Personally I'm sick of the Console segregation. it fucking sucks. and is ONLY negative towards gaming.
@@RiverRockXIII only thing I wish for is for rockstar to bring RDR2 up to 60fps.
I hate that were this far into the current gen and people still reference it as “next gen”
Well, we're waiting for there to ACTUALLY be games, that aren't PS4 games.
because that's how it feels like. I could barely play games with at least 2k 60fps and/or the games that utilizes dual sense. I feel like I only own PS4 Pro 2 or Pro+, doesn't really feel "next gen" coming from PS4 specially Ps4pro
@@MrAaron-br8unyes because this whole lack of innovation and optimization isn’t from the supposed lack of power of these consoles. It’s all about the companies doing the bare minimum
Ray tracing isn’t a red herring. if it could be less resource intensive and more seamless, then the amount of time lighting an environment is significantly reduced when developing. Half of an environment is lighting the damn thing. If they could consistently depend on ray tracing without a heavy ding to performance this in theory streamlines the development pipeline.
The problem is that it’s so resource intensive and is competing against contemporary volumetric lighting + HDR which looks damn good anyway.
There is no point in a "pro" version of the modern console, and the next gen consoles aren't necessary for longer than ever before. We don't need 120fps 8k.
Speak for yourself
We don't need 144p 5fps either
MAGG on the XNC podcast said that his contacts within respawn said with brute force they got 4K 120fps with the ps5 pro, and I think this was due to the ai frame generation
Im assuming the AI thing is purly for upscaling It's not gonna be used in game because that wont be possible on standard ps5
This is clearly in preparation for GTA VI
Anyone actually know what this means ? Could give a fuck if it’s a little faster spmeone pls explain
@@dash7661 GTA6 is going to be huge, the base ps5 is more than likely not going to lock 60
@@dash7661 open-world/sandbox games like GTA are some of the most taxing games for hardware, the base model PS5 is gonna run it at a "meh" level, so ppl believe the PS5 pro is being made to run it at the highest level of performance.
Nah, it's in preparation for the next batch of Last of Us Remasters
@@yofolkdem1256 if base PS5 gonna run GTA 6 at "meh" level - F to poor Xbox Series S , that will be hard for it 720p 30fps
The "AI Stuff" will be used for the new PSSR Upscaler on the Pro.
When it comes to resolution the debate it's kind of hard to argue because even the basics of the display itself are technically an artificial render just combining select colors at specific patterns to create an image. Some displays just limited to RGB still do more colors then just red green and blue but by projecting different hues within those limited spectrums. In conclusion it's all arbitrary and if it looks like 4k or 8k and it's hard to distinguish the difference the real question is does it really matter???
Checkerboard upscaling technology did amazing things on the PS4 pro and the one X, the only complaints it gets come from ppl running it under a microscope. Literally anything looks like trash if you enlarge it 100x and zoom in on corners
do imagine, Sony has an Ace up its sleeve for the PS5 Pro (like Ghost 2..)
Most promising thing about this system is the PSSR AI upscaling solution (should be comperable to DLSS and XeSS vs trash FSR2) and the increases in RT, its usinf BVH8 (RDNA 4+) instructions vs BVH4 (RDNA 2 and 3) so it'll be a substantial leap especially over base model. Lack of CPU improvements is a bit of a let down but understandable. Wish we could get a bigger jump unfortunately w die shrinks not being as frequent nor impactful as all previous generations this is about the best we can hope for in a $600 box
Now that consoles have hit 4K I hope they now focus on a minimum 60fps 4K on consoles instead of focusing on higher resolution again
barely these consoles are not capable of 4k on new games old ones yeah a gen or two behind even the pro model is not going to be able to push 4k 60 or 120 the only solution is the ps6 and even that i'm afraid is going to be mediocre cause of the price dictation so yeah consoles are not the solution for high end gaming really pc is i own everything i like everything but i can't expect high end from a five hundred machine never going to happen!
Not really a console guy, but as long as it doesn’t delay the PC release of Final Fantasy 16, I’m all for new consoles
Smart choice.!😂😂😂
Everyone needs to play FF16 and Rebirth. Best games ever
ff16 sucked. i dumped it halfway through. just a soulless game all around. i was shocked, considering i loved the demo.
Yeah, I think 16 was meant more for people who like certain vibes. I think you'd like Rebirth and Horizon Forbidden West though. @@jonr7364
I don't mind the upscaling since it makes the diarrhea christmas lights so much more particlee.
What is this dude talking about... GTA6 will be in every promotion for this console.
Lets assume this upscaler makes all the resolutions look like native. Does it really matter which resolution is ACTUALLY used then? I would say no.
Supposed to be able to upscale 1080 to 4k. So as long as the game is doing 1080. Some game are dipping to 720 at 60 fps, like Jedi survivor. So the extra gpu power might be to get them over the line .
This and GTA 6 is gonna be crazy 🤣
FSR 2 to is not ai upscaling it is a hand made motion vector temporal upscaler and AA algorithm. DLSS 2 and XESS are ai enhanced motion vector temporal upscaler and AA. The goal with Ai enhanced upscaler is to produce visuals that are on par or better then native res when you compare the game with TAA on with a lower internal res. A lot of games on console with fsr2 are pushing way to lower res for it to look good. 1440 at 60 ai upscaled to 4k or even 8k will look descent at some point as long as they are doing similar things to DLSS and XESS.
They do have a system seller this year. Ncaa 25 or CFB 25. People have been waiting for it for almost 10 years and most people get PlayStations now a days.
I havent turned on my PS5 in probably 8 months. There's nothing to play on it.
You're an xbot though you would say that
@@tristman8413 ???
If you got nothing to play, then you’re not a gamer.
@@aaronwalsh8469 that's very stupid
The 4k 60fps and 8k 30fps is what the current 5 is suppose to be able to do. Basically getting an overlock
What is this race for consoles to be upgrades when they haven't made any games for current gen
weird huh, almost like everything has become soulless shlop
Tbf we've already seen something similar to this with the ps3 being a year after the 360 and the ps4 pro having some features the regular ps4 or slim didn't.
its all for GTA6
Just a thought...maybe it is gonna work great for DD2
It’ll work great on my PC.
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 that really wasn't the point though
Thats exactly what I’m thinking. We should be able to play DD2 at 60 fps on ps5 pro
45 % stronger gpu is not enough for 60 fps if ps5 has drops to 24 fps in dragons dogma
@FERTUHG I personally don't care about 60. RDR2 and skyrim and many other great games were at 30...If it can be 30 consistently that's enough...the fluctuations from 20s to 30s and 40s is the bad part not the 30 FPS if it is always 30 that would be awesome
Does codename "Trinity" mean it will truly be 100% backwards compatible down to ps3? Like, I can put in a PS3 disc and play it?
Glad I’ve seen this. I almost bought a slim version.
Those old games with such specs will be lit
Oh and FSR is NOT AI Upscaling. It hasn't any machine learning stuff involved. DLSS has and PSSR will too.
Dude how many channels do you have? I never know which is the main channel.
I would suspect the one with the same name but "LIVE" specified at the end is the secondary channeö
i feel like i should point at the obvious, the A.I stuff is very clearly for their A.I upscaling lol. FSR wasn't cutting it and they want to be more in line with what intel and Nvidia is doing and AMD are behind the times
Yeah Sony already does a lot of AI upscaling in their high end TV’s .
@@aaronwalsh8469 lol
Im very VERY glad they dont have a big game to sell the ps5 pro. Maybe ill actually be able to get one within a couple months of release this time
Your best chance is at launch. It will sell out , and the scalpers will ruin it.
Xbox needs that full on refresh. Series S holding us back.
Can't wait to play the last of us part 1, part 2. Just imagine spiderman remastered, remastered
Will it achieve 4k 60 day 1? All I care about
I’ll probably get this but I don’t have a PS5. I can’t imagine this being worth it if you already have a PS5. That was my problem with the PS4 Pro; I already had a PS4 when it came out.
Depends on how long you’ve had it. I got the ps5 at launch. I’m ready for an upgrade.
It would improve frame rate for Dragon's dogma 2 on PS5
I wouldn't be surprised if AI is put into salt shakers the way it's being implemented in everything.
Put out a pro but yet they are already talking about the next generation already, with most games we've seen aren't coming out until 2025 and beyond and by that time we will be on the next generation. This generation we are on now was rushed so hard and never really given a chance
Exactly there are only 3 games and they expect people to buy a Ps5? Now a pro? Get a PC! They got all the games
I agree with you but granted people said the same about ps4 gen and then 2016/17 and beyond it was amazing new games. Just an observation
@@chrisbrown113096I mean that's a fair point but it just feels like by the time we get there, we'll be already close to new systems and right back to the same cycle of getting remakes and remasters again just to hold out for the new things which takes forever to make more and more. If it isn't some live service get rich quick scheme is being made every other day,it's some game that devs are trying to make that's this really unnecessary huge open world game that's almost 200 hours
@@dominicarroyo6269 just put your wallet into perpetual free fall aka orbit.
@@chrisbrown113096True but these games were advertised early in the generation, we haven't gotten anything in this generation
I feel like the ps5 pro is not gonna be use at full potential because the base ps5 is still gonna be the target and then the devs will value if they use the super resolution or they stay with other upscallers this could end up being barely use just like the checkerboard on the ps4 pro
If GTA6 is locked 30 fps on ps5 and xbox, but the new pro can run it with same or close graphics qt 60fps, it will sell like hotcakes! Id even consider it. This may just be Sony getting a head start in the AI upscaling technology for later consoles. Head start compared to consoles anyway
Id like to better understand what has changed that games are being more CPU limited.
If played three games, in 3.5 since owning the PS5, that I couldn't have played on my PS4. What are they doing?!
FSR isnt AI upscaling currently, so the versions on PC or console are not using AI for image reconstruction. My assumption is that for this PS5 Pro to remain at a reasonable cost and hit 4K 120fps, they will add the AMD AI cores, and use a modified version of FSR called PSSR. My guess is that PSSR uses the AI cores to improve image reconstruction, and allow for smooth frame generation. Combine that with the bump the RDNA 3/4 core hybrid cores over RDNA 2 and it wont be terrible for the price it will cost. Thats the key though, the price. You're not getting true 4K60 for $500.
FSR uses software to upscale, PSSR is using ai hardware. The 300 tops.
@@aaronwalsh8469 That's what I said. PSSR is going to be leveraging the AMD AI cores, not relying on FSR's current functionality. I would also assume that it's an excellent controlled environment for AMD's engineers to understand the pipeline with the new hardware, making it so they have valuable information to take back for the FSR implementation of AI upscaling. If you meant "300 tops", as in price, I don't know what currency you're using but that sounds 99% impossible.
the CPU staying relatively the same is interesting
They can’t drastically change the cpu without messing up backwards compatibility.
Doing native rendering will be a thing of the past in the next 5 to 10 years. It's just a dumb thing to do it if your hardware actually supports AI to reconstruct it. By the way, PS4 Pro also released with 0 new first party games?
Think what you just said. You have to render something natively or the AI upscaler has nothing to upscale. You need to render the game. AI upscale is not the same tech that is used by fake AI image generators. Actual local native rendering will be a thing of the past for Xbox gamers because Xbox lost the console war and MS now want to dump Xbox consoles and render the games on Azure cloud servers, then stream the games to a Game Pass app on every device. It is coming as soon as Phil Spencer can ween the xbots off consoles and convince them that streaming is good for budget gaming. The smart hardcore Xbox console gamers will jump to PS5 for great games rendered natively, the rest will be thrown under a bus.
@@itsjusterthought7941 - The fuck I just read.
It’s already been 4 years since release it usually took them a good old 6-7 years to release a new console. It’s way to early
The old long console cycle was diminishing returns, selling consoles for 200$. The pro model is to keep people from moving to pc. We buy new phones every two years, but 4 years is too short . We aren’t children waiting for our parents to buy us a console for Christmas.
The PRO will be available only in 2025 depending on the stocks and everything, but PS6 will be out in 2028, a mid gen upgrade to justify 3 yrs of gaming in 4k 120? Not a very practical option!! I wish Sony could put more focus on putting legacy PS4 titles run in an unlocked framerate which at least PS5 will be capable of. We already saw DF use a jailbreak PS5 with multiple games running in unlocked framerate. Imagine you could replay RDR2, GR Wildlands, all the previous AC Titles and many more in 60 fps possibly. Still a dream!!
You can even play Minecraft or counterstrike in 8K🤷🏻♂️
I just got the slim😐
Why do people care so much about ray tracing? Genuinely I don't understand why would I be looking at a shadow instead of the thing, casting the shadow?
8:02 lol GTA6 that's literally why they're doing this they want to be one of the only console to literally be able to run this game at " 120fps 4K" and there's probably going to be more games Big ones to come out that haven't been announced there are already rumors of a ghost of Tsushima 2 and probably a few others schedule for 2025 there is more than enough reason at least from Sony Perspective to want to have this thing out by then hell you're probably going to see bundles with it especially if they're launching anywhere near around each other
The only consoles I've had were Nintendos from the late 90s to the mid 2000s but I really want a Playstation for the exclusive titles. I play on a 1440p monitor so I really hope unlocked FPS in performance mode becomes a thing with the PRO but native 1440p/60 FPS is the very least I want in most PS games preferably 90 or 120 in well optimized titles. If I buy a "PRO" console in 2025 I don't want to see 30 FPS no matter what.
damn bro, wtf did 30fps do to you?😂
@@liquid1514 You got that wrong it was the other way around. It was my 240hz monitor and 120hz phone that ruined 30 FPS for me.
@@valentinvas6454 am i seriously the only one that can handle 30fps even with all this new technology i have?
@@liquid1514 I mean it depends on the game. If it's something like Gran Turismo or Flight Simulator I'm fine but a few months ago I locked Lords of the Fallen to 30 FPS out of curiosity and it felt absolutely awful. If it's an FPS game it's even worse
AI, for NPCs, like Chatgpt Skyrim?.. the ffing future is on its way!
Sony is trying to get a machine that can run GTA6 at 4k/60fps. Xbox is trying to get their cloud streaming up to console level by then, so you can stream it at 4k/60fps. Later this year you'll be able to stream owned games. Very soon you'll be able to stream games at similar specs to this refresh.
yeah no way GTA 6 runs at native 4k 60 fps lol you can't even run cyberpunk at 4k 60 fps unless u have DLSS or a 4090 and the PS5 pro won't be that powerful
Both Xbox and Sony lied to us about their consoles, most games are struggling to achieve 4k30 even with no ray tracing, and they end up upscaling from lower resolutions, only some 1st party Sony titles have managed to do it somehow, they say this console can do something but the engines just cant .. but with this specs, why people will buy a PS6, what can the PS6 do better?
People will buy ps6 just stop it
Developers control how games perform no matter how powerful the consoles. If they make the game look like GTA 3 it can run at 8k 120fps (which current consoles support, unlike previous gens) but every developer will make their game look as good as possible while making it run at 1080-1440p 30-60fps. Sony and Xbox can't do anything about it
giving us solid framerates at 1080 and 1440 X Giving us mid frame rates at 4k and 8k _/
It seems like people want 3 systems Sellers a year. I have a crazy backlog g********
The pro is dropping right before gta 6 release..
They really going to release games for 3 different consoles
Which 3 consoles?
@@Silverfirefly1Ps5, Ps5 slim, Ps5 Pro... hell, Ps4 is still in the mix.
You are fundamentally misundertanding it, the AI is just for upsampling resolutions to 4k. And yes, it's a big deal, FSR is NOT an AI upscale, that's why it looks bad. Not all upscales are created equal. Some AI upscales can look even better than native.
Gta 6 my friend
It's gonna be hilarious to see how many SHILL'S!.. buy this and wonder why games still aren't 60fps across the board. 👀 I play on Playstation and I'm saying this.
If i can get an unlocked 120 -144 RFR experience i might get it. If i can only get 4k 60 i dont care
Horsepower isn’t even that straight forward it’s a by product of torque
It’s a bad idea for both Sony and Microsoft to release their next gen consoles in the same year at the same exact time. For healthy competition in the market having a 1-2 year gap between consoles is beneficial for consumers and wont cannibalise one console over the other. The Xbox 360 released 1 year earlier than the PS3, both consoles sold pretty well with the Xbox 360 selling 86 million units and PS3 selling 87 million units.
Would it be possible that the AI stuff will enable older games to run on 4k60fps? I mean Arkham Trilogy or other older PS4/PS3 games.
Technically, if the old game has an unlocked frame rate, the AI upscaler will enlarge the image to 4K and the processing saved will be used to generate more frames so the unlocked frame rate can rise to 60fps. PS3 games won't work because they are a different architecture, so it basically PS4 games only. Is the Arkham Trilogy on PS4 and does it run with an unlocked frame rate. If the answer is yes to both, you might get 4K 60fps on the PS5 Pro.
@itsjusterthought7941 Currently, both Asylum and City run at 30fps on PS5, so based on your info nit even the pro would be able to make them run at the discussed quality 😕
If the only way, at launch, to play GTA 6 at 60 fps, is to have a PS5 Pro..then I guess I am getting a PS5 Pro. I hope that's not the case, but I'll prepare my mind for the possiblity.
Actually it’s only gonna be possible on PC.
PSSR is the barbarian PR name they probably give to the hack people found on pc game by enabling DLSS 3.5 through fsr 2.0 hacks, benefiting from frame gen through radeon cards , while FSR3 frame gen also can run and super resolution and some anti lag features wich seemingly glitching the whole thing to almost TRIPLE fps when you don't move the camera too much, double when you move around. It's sony just bending and swooping their hands in the pc world modding and stealing it for themselves, while slapping a fake name on top of it.
🤣🤣🤣 🤡🤡🤡
PlayStation is killing it. People said the portal was pointless, and it sold out too Microsoft hasn't even caught up to PS4 level quality, and with PlayStation having mind share, 3rd parties aren't going to support an Xbox that releases on a completely different schedule than PlayStation
To be fair it’s really the Xbox Series S that is holding back gaming for this generation at least
It's not keeping Sony from making 1st party, PS5 games.
We shouldn't even be talking about upgrades or next gen until they've sorted this one out. They're just robbing us to buy hardware that has no games to play. I've never seen a generation like this, it's crazy
@@supertenor2767 but that’s not holding Sony first party’s back
One of xboxs major issues, was having 2 different power specced systems. Now sony is gonna do it? Hello more 30fps games on base ps5!!
I believe better dev focus on optimization instead of pushing it for better hardware, ah yes I know, if they do it hardware business will die and GPU will be too expensive
Gta 6 would have been the perfect game to launch with the ps5 pro.
And let me guess, it’s gonna take another 2 years just to get your hands on one if you’re even lucky
ps5 pro is for the GTAVI i guess
I’d be more okay with people accepting 30fps if Sony wasn’t going around locking 3rd party games they don’t own away from PC. The fact that ff16 is a unstable framerate blurry muddy mess and ff7 rebirth is the most horrendous looking game in performance mode I’ve ever laid my eyes on makes me irrationally mad…
im ready to play the last of us part 2 remake remaster redemtion goty edition revenge of golf lady
PS5 and Series X are 4 years old 500€/$ devices that can achieve 4K, 60/120 fps and ray tracing (not all at the same time 😂). You have to take it for what they’re and not for what you hope / expects. I’m ok with what I have.
CPU performance isn't going to be lifted much at all, so I really don't understand the point of this. The CPU will continue to be a bottleneck, as we often see this generation.
most 4090 games cant run 4k games at 120 fps with out dlss. a 4070 goes for $599.00 in my brain for the money a pro ps5 is worth it if your complaining about the price get a job. People who don't see the need in a ps5 pro either frame rate does not bother them or they are not in the ecosystem of Sony. as for a it needing a game for release. that is stupid fans will buy.
Trinity..... matrix.... matrix video game... unreal engine 5......AI for unreal 5 maybe
If it can run gta 6 at 1440p upscaled to 4k 60fps it's worth it
It'll be 30
I don't even think a 4090 will be able to do gta 6 native 4k 60fps with raytracing, let alone a ps5 pro. Realistically it's 4k 30fps or upscaled 1440p (from either 720p or 1080p) 60fps
@rewpertcone8243 of course not native. But I do think 1440p 60 and/or 4k 30 should be the target on a PS5 pro.
Im telling you right now, GTA 6 is going to be 30 fps. Read Dead 2 is still 30 fps and everyone sucks their dick over that damn game lmao they will not hesitate to make GTA 6 30 fps because they know for a fact they can get away with it. Also because Rockstar goes all out with the realistic graphics and animations and all that jazz, so no way in hell that shit is gonna be 60 fps on any console except maybe the PS6 in 2027
The PS5 Pro will have almost the same CPU performance as the base PS5. That will make it very hard for the PS5 Pro to run GTA 6 at twice the frame rate of the PS5. I honestly don't know what Sony is doing here. This is a very unimpressive console if the CPU is almost exactly the same.
The performance issues DESPERATELY NEED to be addressed by PlayStation and Xbox. We are just allowing them to get away with 30 fps still in 2024 and it is unbelievably fucking ridiculous. Like it actually infuriates me that I’d have to drop hundreds more and build a gaming pc just to be able to play all the games I want at 60 fps. The ps5 looked really powerful when it first came out, and it seemed to be doing great, but as soon as these “next gen” games starting launching all the sudden it can’t run games for shit. Pisses me the fuck off because none of my friends play PC and I really don’t feel like saving $2000 to get one
What ps5 games from ps studios run at 30fps?
what a waste of money
i can't imagine the industry switching gears just for a new xbox... not that i hate xbox or whatever but look at the state of things now, the whole console industry is held back by the less powerfull machine, the series S. i can't imagine big houses like EA working on brand new versions of their games specifically for this supposed new gen of xbox. I mean i'd love for them to come out and try to switch things up within the console wars, i would love to see them announing some kind of switch/steam deck or whatever, but realistically i don't think they gonna have enough strength to pull this off, one again i don't see majors studios being able to avoid Sony players....
If we can run Minecraft at 8K 120 fps then we have the most powerful console in the world
Still years behind pc medium specs and why I say that is the new tech coming in the next months. When PS5 released in 2020, was already behind 3-4 years. Many will say, yeah but the price, well go check and configure an PC with the similar specs of a PS5, you will gone be surprised by the price, even on the release day.
Nope
I hope MS/Xbox does put out their next gen console in 2026. There is zero reason not to, as Sony has won this round of the console wars. With their stable of first party developers, they should have a ton of day one titles to release on the new hardware by then.
You dont need new games for a pro system. All current unlocked frame rate games will run way better. Other games can be patched to run at higher resolution and frame rate.
The problem isn't with upscaling tech itself. The problem is HOW Xbox/PS are using it. Upscaling is great for PC gamers to get extended life cycles out of older GPUs, allowing multiple generations-old GPUs to run AAA games in 2024 at playable (and sometimes even optimal) framerates. There is a bit of visual fidelity tradeoff, but as DLSS/FSR improve, the tradeoffs are increasingly worth it. The problem comes when CONSOLE manufacturers start using upscaling to theoretically promise higher and higher performance (8K 60?? BS!) when, as Luke points out here, it's NOT REAL. This abuse of upscaling is done on the console side to SELL MORE HARDWARE (and to lie about software). This is some of the shady BS that happens with the walled gardens of console ecosystems as opposed to PC. I'm not saying Nvidia/AMD don't make shady decisions for money, but they don't have the same goal as the consoles do. You can play multiple generations of games on old hardware on PC, but with consoles gamers HAVE to upgrade to play the latest stuff. Nvidia/AMD have incentives to improve upscaling whereas consoles simply take advantage of it to appear to be constantly getting bigger and better (TL;DR: Xbox/PS use upscaling tech for marketing and as a crutch to sell fairytale performance targets rather than what its designed to be: an extension of life for older hardware)
This gen felt like a bait and switch so I finally moved on to PC. For me it was the 60 fps issue. Graphics is an artistic choice. They didn't choose wisely.
So disappointing with the specs. Maybe it will help get a solid 30fps now.
I still haven’t seen why I should buy a PlayStation. The tech specs sound OK I guess. But this whole generation has no games, NO GAAAAMMMMMEEEEESS. You can have the most amazing specs in the world. If you don’t have any games to stretch those legs out in, what you have there is a really expensive paperweight. While Sony and XBox keep dicking around. I’m no longer buying what they’re selling. I used to hate this term when I first heard it. “PC master race.” But right now I’m saving money, and it ain’t going to Sony or Xbox. 🤷♂️
Ok but when are the Switch 2 leaks? Like can someone please just forfeit their entire life to Nintendo’s legal teams and just leak it already? Sheesh.
It's not possible for the human eye to translate more than 60 frames per second so why the heck do we need 120 fps when its irrelevant.. Its another money grab, a PS5 is still around 800 dollars in Australia and we are getting our pants pulled down with AA games being flogged at 110.00 example being outcast 2!.. 75.00 dollars to pe order ER dlc what a robbery