Is the Dutch education system unfair? Nigerian Girl Reacts 🧐
Hi Beautiful People,
In this video, I address some of the notions about the Dutch educational system. I reacted to a video by the KZheadr @exploringtheforeign.
I started out by taking a deep dive into the Dutch education system and how it actually works (For those who are new and do not understand the system) and concluded by presenting my opinion on this matter.
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Having been in the Dutch education system in the seventies and eighties I can say that changing levels is much easier than it used to be. I have three nieces with a masters degree that started out on the VMBO. The problem is the lower the education level the earlier you have to choose a career path, VMBO you have to make a choice in year 2, as the VWO gives you 6 years of broad education. But after the VMBO you can still change track.
Thank you for sharing this. I think overall the system works well and is better than a lot of other systems in the world. It does have it flaws though but in my opinion it doesn’t make it unfair😏
When I was young, when students didn't get good grades, parents would address their children. „Learn harder!" Nowadays, whenever children don't perform well (for whatever reason) parents blame the teachers or the system. I had to do the CITO test age 12, early seventies. All parents accepted it. It determines your level, to see what's best for you. Nowadays parents all feel their children are special, their child is smart and should always go to „the best choice" which is VWO. Regardless how the child scored, they feel it can only succeed with VWO. Well, I was a shy, timid child. An immigrants son. Not as cheeky and bold as the Dutch children. After one year junior high, I was advised to do MAVO. My parents and I didn't object, since I didn't perform well. After I graduated, I switched to HAVO, and then I developed as a teenager. I did better and graduated. Then I went VWO and also graduated there as well. Then I was called in for my military service, 14 months, and after that I went to university to study Japanese for a short while. When I was offered a job within a bank, I stopped. Like my education, I started at the bottom. Low paid departments, but I was very eager to work and learn. From several operational departments, I ended up as commercial assistant at the corporate account managent. I did that for 11 years. From there I went to implementation manager cash management. Have been doing it since 2007. I am a highly paid senior now. Mind you I have absolutely no financial background nor education, yet I advise corporate CFOs, Treasurers, controlers. The Dutch education was always very helpful to me. I could learn what I wanted, for as long as needed. My eagerness to learn brought me where I am now. Unfortunately some children lack eagerrness, are perhaps lazy and/or might have parents who expect more than the kids can or will deliver. So many facts determine your path in life. The Cito test is just a pebble in that path.
Thank you so much for sharing your own personal journey. I admire your ethics and how you worked your way up. Impressive 👌🏾
@Fitz As a future teacher, THAT is my major concern when I can finally start teacher solitary (unguided): the way parents treat their kids and the teachers. But then again: I have the luck to be a bit older than most upcoming teachers, so they won't blow me away that easily :)
@@peterkeijsers489 I wish you all the best! Personally I feel teachers and people in healthcare should be paid much more than they earn now. Schoolteachers form future generations, and take over part of parents role (education, preparing them for the future). When I started in banking, juniors were more humbled and willing to listen (learn), than the nowadays youngsters. Fellow seniors tell me that juniors, new co-workers nowadays are much more difficult to deal with. Their parents teached them to be more vocal, pointed out that their opinions matter. That is not bad, but sometimes they tend to be hard to correct or stubborn. I wish you all the best in your future job 👍🏽👊🏽
At age 12, I got the advice for Gymnasium. Eventually at the brugklas (1st year), because I was so bored, I eventually took the Havo education, after which I went to Mavo (now Vmbo-t), went up to MBO, and eventually went to UAS (HBO). So I took quite a traject to get where I am now. And yes, I too believe that students are to choose way too early for their later work. Now I do have to mention that my dad was a factory worker and my mom (she was a salary clerk until she got married to my dad, and therefore was MANDATORY (we're talking about the 1950s) to leave work and stay at home to take care of my sibllings and me. Based on this, one would argue that I was to get a lower CITO result, but I actually got the advice to go to gymnasium. Secondly: I do know for a fact that it used to be harder on foreigners, since many of them didn't know the Dutch language well enough, but that has changed as well in the last 20 years or so (most HBO level fields of education are now taught in English anyway so that would be the only obstacle. Lots of my fellow students in recent years (I started a new HBO education at age 49) did as well as any other student. So indeed no, the Dutch education system is far from racist or unfair. However, a CITO at a later age (let's say at age 15 or 16) would be more beneficiary to the student in the long run.
Thank you for sharing your experience 🫶
HI, thank you for bringing this subject to the forefront. I am a Dutchy that now lives in Canada, with kids in elementary and High school. I was educated at VWO in Holland, so I think I can compare educational systems and what it was to be educated in The Netherlands, compared to NA. First: please dont say that the Dutch educational system is "racist". It can be viewed as discriminating, but not solely racial discrimination. Discriminating as that (in the past, 70s-80s-90s...) if you could not learn, then you were looked down upon. Parents were really pushing their kids to get the highest possible educational lvl, sometimes above the kid's ability to learn, just so they could 'studeren' (go to Higher education) and get a better job. White collar was more envied then blue collar! Some kids from parents with lower education were able to get a higher educational lvl then their parents and some kids that had academic parents, didnt "fulfill" their parents wish to have the same high educational lvl. Then the different lvls of education: (V)MBO / HAVO / VWO / HBO/ WO and having to test 'to see what lvl you fit in'. First: the CITO toets is a test, and nothing more. Based on that they give an ADVICE!! Advice what lvl of education you should follow in middelbare school. IMO There is no better time to test that, then right before going to middelbare school. The advice is given, based on CITO and on the kid's prior education. How did he/she perform in the grades leading up to the CITO toets. Were they able to excel or did they have difficulties with ie. Math / reading / ....?? Having a test moment is good, to get a baseline and to have the child perform. [for example, here in Ontario Canada kids have 2 tests, 1 grade 6 (groep 8) and 1 grade 9 (2e klas middelbare). These 2 tests are to see how the school is doing, not the individual student. Which makes no sense to me...]. Making kids and their parents choose a stream, a lvl of education, before they go to middelbare school is good because you can sift those who are capable of doing more academics and those who prefer a more hands on education. Of course there are many kids who received advice to do stream X but eventually settled for stream Y. I think it is relatively doable to switch streams. In my time at middelbare school, there were many students that had to switch, some down and some eventually up. What I also appreciate is that kids can/have to redo a school year, if they cannot keep up with the academics. This goes for elementary and secondary schools! If I compare this to the Ontarian school system (I m not even sure whether this is Canada wide...): Here, from kindergarten onwards, every kid advances to the next grade. It doesn't matter if you can keep up with the class or not. I doesnt even matter if you actually attend classes... So those who struggle keep moving up with those who are good in academics. At one point, this will be detrimental to both sides, to those who can and those who cannot learn with ease. There is no incentive to learn or to do well in school. There is no failing. This drives me crazy! My kid, who was in Dutch elementary school until groep 6, is so far ahead in education lvl and is so for 7 years now. She is in grade 9 and gets lessons that she was taught in grade 6 or 7, because some students didnt quite learn it when they were in that grade.... She gets 95s or higher for all subjects, so she is held back in her academics. She would really have benefited from the different streams/educational lvls! Here in Ontario they finally switch to academic stream in grade 11! which means you only get 2 years of academic lvl education. All in all, IMO, the Dutch educational system is complex, but more suited to the individual student/child. It has its flaws (being rigid and complex, maybe even discriminating in parts, because it puts a stamp on you), but it helps the kids who stand out 1 way or the other.
Hi Brian, Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the two systems. It really gave some clarity as to the strength and flaws of each one. Again I didn’t call the system racist in fact in my opinion it’s far from it. I used racism in this case because there has been the accusations recently that the system is constitutional racist towards immigrants and have disproportionately ranked them to go to lower cadets of the educational system. (Doesn’t make sense to me especially once I understood how the system actually works). That’s why I brought it up in this video to get opinions from people like you too who have had experiences. Thanks once again for sharing.
What she says at last about people with certain backgrounds being placed lower is based upon the difficulties of the child. It has nothing to do with anything else. They just look at what the child does. For example what I noticed as a child when I got my VMBO- Kader level the teacher really thought I was not the type that was going to do well in learning. Because I was a child that was talking a lot and was not doing well in mathematics also I was dyslexic haha. My CITO score of mathematics was very low. So meanly based on that they gave me that level. Yet I ended up higher, but I am very happy that I went to that school because it is a very good VMBO school. At my VMBO school you can easily get a higher level on certain subjects if you do very well so you can get your full potential at that school. They give you a higher level when they see that you do well. When you are in the 4th year of VMBO you do your end exams. If you have made it to get all 7s of all the exams you can go to HAVO or ofcourse you can go to MBO-4 depending what you like more. If you don't have all 7s of your exams you can not go to HAVO in that way. You can go to MBO-4 and after 4 years of MBO-4 you can go to HBO. That is what I ended up doing. Although I disliked my HBO because it just didn't fit me in the end. The learning potential is being looked at when the child is at school. They see how the child is doing through 8 years of school.
Thanks for sharing your experience 🫶
A kid is tested yearly from age 5, then assessed at age 11 then tested at age 12, only then a direction is advised. That direction can be revised at any time during the ages 12 to 18. I don't see how a system can be better. Of course within that system there can be prejudice, racism, cultural misunderstanding or just mistakes. But that is the operation of the system, not the system itself.
I am very happy with your video. As usual, very sharp and observant and straight to the point. Very much appreciated.
After the CITO exam at primary school, I got the advice for MAVO (now called VMBO) and after that I went to the MTS (MBO (Poly)Technic School) and after that HTS (HBO (Poly)Technic School). I could have gone to the HAVO after the MAVO and then to the HTS. I would have finished my education 1 year earlier, but I chose for the slower path myself. My parents wanted me to got to the HAVO, but I wanted to work with my hands also, instead of only with books. That was the best choice of my life. After the second year of MAVO I had to choose a direction: general, languages or science. I chose science, which meant that I had to drop French and Economics/Accountancy. In the third year I had to further choose a profile, I chose Mathematics, Chemistry and Physics and thereby had to drop History, Geography and Biology. I had the advantage that I knew at early age in which direction I wanted to go. I did my exams in Dutch, English, German, Mathematics, Chemistry and Physics. It was a struggle, I can’t deny that, but I got my diploma. And I still think it is sad that I had to drop magnificent courses like Geography and French f.e. At the MTS I did my exams and had an extra course in Physics, a course you needed to have to be able to go to the HTS, together with Mathematics. And it wasn’t even that hard. I don’t get why people think we need to choose too early in life. I wish we didn’t have to choose at all, because I liked almost all courses in school, with the exception of Maths and Physics. And these were the only two courses obligatory for technical studies. So I needed these courses to reach my goal. I have a great job in construction with a damn good salary.
Same story in life I have 👌🏼 I too started with „low" with MAVO, then HAVO, then VWO, now being a senior in banking (cash management).
Hey Josphine, I haven't had a chance to watch the full video, but wanted to just say thanks for your review!
Hi Sam, you’re so welcome. And thanks to you for taking to the streets and getting first hand info from people about their thoughts on this topic. Weldone 👌🏾
This is an amazing video !!! I am currently in the UK with a school going kid. I am contemplating to move to Netherlands but I wanted to be absolutely sure that I will not be jeopardising the education I want for my child. Thanks for explaining the education system once again.
It's not necessarily complex. The downside is that it cuts out people who may be brilliant for other fields too early. But hey, we will never lnow
The advice at the age of 11/12 is not based on just 1 test on1 day. I think people are underestimating how professional Dutch teachers and schools are. Schools are using pupil (progress) tracking systems ("leerling volg systeem"). This is a series of standardised tests, multiple tests per year, on several subjects, tracking pupils' developments throughout their entire period in primary school, from the age of 4, until the age of 11/12. These tests are also made by the same organisation, CITO, as the last test at the age of 11/12. It's standardised, so it is applied the same way in all schools, so results can be compared and are objective. This will give teachers insight in the potential of a pupil. That last test at the age of 11/12 is only one test in a long series that determines the level of the next school. But even high school continues with standardised tests in the first 1 or 2 years, to make sure they get objective measurements of a pupil's progress, and an off-day does not influence the outcome.
Very informative.
I'm Dutch and also a 55-year-old teacher in Havo/VWO and I have a few things to say: 1. I was tested at age 12 (CITO test) and I didn't do well, so the test indicated I should go to MAVO (nowadays that's VMBO), but my teacher, a psychologist (yes, they were involved in this as well back in the day!) and my parents decided that that was a fluke and I should, instead, go to VWO, so I went to a small Gymnasium. This decision was made more based on my social ineptitude to ' survive' in larger schools (scholengemeenschappen) than my intellectual prowess. However, I still managed to complete it even if I did retake one year. 2. After I had completed Gymnasium, I went to university, which was the logical path to follow. Still, I found out, after three years, that that was not what I wanted and I 'downgraded' to HBO, did another course (translation and interpretation) and went back to uni afterwards to complete my teacher's degree. I have to admit that these switches were much more easy back in the day than they are now, but they still are possible. 3. As a teacher in a Havo/VWO school, I come across many students who are not ready to choose at different levels: First of all, there's the 1st year of 'highschool': - we have classes for students whose advice (NOTE: we're not even allowed to purely use the CITO score, but we have to follow the advice given by their teachers in elementary school) puts them at a VWO level and who (together with their parents) decided that that's what they want to do, so they start this trajectory as early as 1st year. - we have classes for students who did get a VWO advice but are not sure they want to go that route, so they are put in mixed classes for the first year (havo/vwo), which are called 'brugklassen' (bridge classes) after which they can still have all the options open to them (including gymnasium). - all of the students that had a havo advice are put in those same 'brugklassen' to allow them to have one more year before making the decision. - my nephew (in another school) was even given the choice to continue that mixed havo/VWO education until 3rd year, so there are schools who do protract that final choice as long as possible. Secondly, our school provides for 'upgrading' throughout the first three years (so age 12-15): late blooming students who have been put into the havo trajectory after their first year (this is indeed not a decision made by the students or their parents: this decision is made by the team of teachers that taught that class), will have ample opportunities to follow a VWO trajectory throughout the year if they so choose and I have had havo students able to prove their VWO capabilities as late as during third year. This is usually the case for boys, since their development is different from girls and most of the late bloomers are boys. Thirdly, our school has a lot of students who choose to 'upgrade' their level of education after having completed a lower level: after the 5th year, a havo student who has graduated can always choose to switch to VWO. They will lose one year, since they will have to retake the 5th year at VWO level, but what's one year at age 17? Moreover, we get a lot of VMBO students switching after they've graduated. This is after 4 years of study, so they'll be around 16. And I've had quite a few students who did VMBO first, then went to havo and ended up getting VWO. This, again, will cost them 2 extra years, but upward mobility is certainly possible if students want to and show that they're able to. - And yes, there are quite a number of students who decided early on to take the VWO trajectory and after a few years, with more of a goal as to what they want to do or simply because they're not able to or are not willing to sacrifice the free time to complete it, decide to downgrade to havo, which is an equally valid choice. The Dutch system IS complicated, yes, but there are many ways to get to where you eventually want to go so in that sense, it's also quite forgiving :) Just my two cents.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. As a teacher, your first hand knowledge on this topic is appreciated. I have a few more questions.. Is the “brugklassen” available in most high schools or is it specific to some high schools like yours and do students have to intentionally choose the high schools with these options?
@@josphineogugua As far as I know, most all 'middelbare scholen' have some type of brugklas. Most only last one year, but some last two and, as I said, some even three years. Of course this is only available if a school provides more than one trajectory (VMBO/HAVO, HAVO/VWO or even all three).
Just got around to watching and I appreciate your insight! I hope you don't take this in a bad way, but I do feel the title could be a bit misleading, because "racist" wasn't used in my title and usually on reaction videos, the title is verbatim of the original video. Although potential discrimination in the system is something discussed in the video; accusing the system of being racist wasn't a big topic of discussion. Once again, I hope you don't take that wrong, just don't want people to think that that was the title of my video.
Hi Sam, I don’t take this in a bad light at all. I do understand your point here. Unfortunately I didn’t think about it at all while creating the video. I’ve had a few reaction videos and I don’t always go by the title hence why I changed the title in this case. Also few minutes into my video I read out what the title of your video was, so I didn’t think anyone would assume a different title. Again, your video never accused the system of racism and when i mentioned that some people have accused the system of racism, I wasn’t referring to your video at all, I thought it was very clear but with your feedback and thinking about it a bit deeper, I see where there may be miscommunication. I’m future reactions, I’ll take all these into account. I appreciate your honesty and feedback 🫶.
The Dutch education is not unfair… but very not motivating for the students. Especially young male drop out in an early stage. Very much related to puberty and adolescence (hormones). With the liberalization of schooling that becomes more and more a problem. Girls/ female students perform a lot better than their male peers.
Kids develop at different stages in life, to measure everyone at a specific age is not fair to that child who can change and grow. My experience of the Netherlands is that they are very rigid when it comes to systems and therefore would probably take the view " we could not have made a mistake". Kids friends also impact their outlook on life at a specific point in life and can be influenced in terms of how much effort they put into school work. Kids should be able to discover for themselves what they want for themselves and you cannot do a single test to judge everyone. Parents should be there to guide their kids but if they are not aware or not able to then the kid will suffer because of circumstances. There is a lot to unpack there but the fact that it is hard to move up in the system is evident of the rigidness in dutch systems in general and we all know the phrase "not possible" and would hate for that to be the destiny of a child because he or she was not in the right mindset of maturity level when doing this test.
i am older, 67 here, and i say it was better way back, i think it is still good , but uh does there exist any educational system that is perfect?? if so tell me and where is that. i think younger people have become quite a bit spoilt nowadays, always blaming the others for their own mistakes, i also think partly the media are to blame..youtube influencers, yike. buk ok he, ik ben een ouwe lul haha
I come from an underprivileged background and am so glad I was not exposed to these victimhood-seeking BS attitudes. You do not need excuses if you work hard. Get over yourselves. Reply
is fair for all its for every one the same
Dear Josphine, Why do you use the term racist so easily? People read the title and start already with a wrong emotion. I know the Dutch education system does not favor any type or class of people. The main influencing factor to be successful is the pupil him/herself AND the parents helping the pupil to make a right choice. And you need to make a choice at 12 to be able to finish your education in time. There has been said it is difficult to switch.. Not entirely true. Also the teacher is not the final and main factor. I did MAVO (now VMBO) then MBO and finally Polytechnical University. I went to education till 26 years old. My parents were from lower social class ; I had financial support from government via loan. I make 8.340 Euro a month with a large set of secondary rewards (car, phone, laptop, internet and phone subscribtions and cost declarations). Why am I mentioning this? Just to show determination and motivation can take you a long way. Most Dutch parents are very involved in their childrens education and when they do the kid has a good chance to advance in the system. Some cultural differences make a students life more difficult: I have been in households where the TV is playing from waking up till going to bed. Some parents copy their education to their children and hinder advancing to a higher level. The reason kids from academic educated parents are usually better educated is just because they know the way and know what effort is necessary to advance through education. Switching careers is also NOT impossible at all. As a kid I wanted to know everything about biology; I was trained to be a lab technician and later on evolved to a more commercial role. I get trained year by year and I am almost 60. It helps not to just go for the "fun" education and complain there are so many other people wanting a fun job. We all want to be a rockstar, a famous painter or a fighter pilot or the next Indiana Jones. It helps to be focussed in life. Do you want to be rich or do you want to be a creative person or work in a care giving job? Some jobs are high paid and some are low paid. Try to find out what YOU need in life...
Hi Hans, Thanks for sharing your opinion regarding this matter. Before watching Sams video, I was reading an article about education in the Netherlands and I bumped into the claim of racism and discrimination in education. I do not intend to trigger people with the term “racism”. However, we can all agree that this term has been thrown around so commonly in recent years and people have used it so callously. I speak up because I think I’m in a position to do so as a person who has actively lived in a different culture and is also from a race considered minority. Thats why I talk about it… Anyway I hope I’ve explained better but nonetheless I appreciate your input on this matter. 🫶
@@josphineogugua Hey Josphine, i am watching your videos because i am curious for your points of view. And i react because I appreciate your opinion. Criticism is the most sincere form of appreciation 🤗
Well to be honest these people are full of shit, there is so much information that at some point you just need to decide what direction you are gonna take. If you do it later then the ages that there are now, you will be studying forever. I disagree that its that hard to switch lanes as well, as alot of people study and do different things then they studied after. Our educational system is actually really good in giving people options and ways out, these guys want us to study untill we're 35....
I had mixed feelings when I learnt about this streaming thing. While I agree that learners have varying capabilities and the system helps to leverage that, I think using only CITO/teacher’s advice that early can be unfair to children who are late bloomers. For one, the teacher is judging attitude to work and learning abilities of a 12-year-old with raging hormones who is just hitting puberty and trying to figure out life. I struggle to accept that this kind of assessment will mean much in the long term. This process might be doing just what it sets out to avoid: boxing children in too early in life. Also, I see why people think streaming can tend towards discrimination as the kids who have access to extra (paid) prep for CITO are automatically ahead. Another thing we have to acknowledge is that no matter how well-intentioned, teacher’s advice will have some element of personal bias especially towards “different” kids, e.g. children of immigrants who already struggle at school with cultural integration, belonging and polishing their language skills. These kids need more time to come into themselves but could easily be dismissed as “not at par” with other Dutch/Caucasian kids who are able to take up space confidently in the classroom. My recommendation is to pilot “stream-less” high school education for the first 3-4 years and make accessible a mix of VWO/HAVO/VMBO options. Students can then CHOOSE at 15/16 what options they prefer, of course with the support of academic counsellors and based on their academic track record. After all the decision is a life-altering one so it makes sense that the student’s voice/choice also counts at a much later stage when they are mature enough to make such choices.
i had vwo advice, but my choice was to do a practical study, didn't like the theoretical nonsense, the useless latin, total disinterested and didn't like school. so went practical and eventually did art... instead of pre-uni bs of VWO/ athenium
I'd like to suggest for you to get an understanding of the difference between Racism and Discrimination. Racism is about race, that one race would be worth more or less then another race, THAT is RACISM. Children that due to capacity land in a school with a more practical approach as opposed to children that land in a school with a fast paced theoretical approach, that is not racism ... It is practical. I sat for 1 year in a class where one guy couldn't understand what a variable in math was. "Sir, why is A now suddenly 3, when it was 2 before" No amount of explaining made him understand. The rest of the kids had to wait for him to understand because the teacher couldn't continue .......... Do you really want that ? Do you want to sit in a classroom with 25 other kids of which one just can't keep up ? It hampers YOUR progress. A HAVO or VWO student, can't sit in a class where some people don't have a feel for even simple math. That is what the CITO test does, it separates students to their capacity. Whether that test comes too soon (12-13 years old) or that there should be more of such tests as they progress in their teen years, possible, but its not Racist.
Hi Jila, I agree with your definition on racism. And I share similar opinion on it. You can watch this video where I clearly defined this term…. kzhead.info/sun/q7J7ccybnp-JeaM/bejne.html Your argument here seems very clear and reasonable but obviously not to everyone. I agree with your analysis regarding the system too. I have no issues separating students according to their intellectual abilities. The only thing I would change as I stated in the video is to introduce a resit exam for Cito so that anyone who maybe feels the first exam didn’t reflect their capacity would have one more chance to prove it. Even in this case, some people argue that it may ruin the reason why the test was created in the first place. Which was to determine the natural intellectual capacity of students without them having to study or prepare for it. It may seem that the points you’ve mentioned here should be very clear to anyone who actually learns what exactly the educational system is like but you will be surprised at the number of people who think for some reason this system is racist. A report by UN even called out Dutch government to deal with the constitutional racism in schools that is causing immigrant children to be disproportionately assigned to lower academic cadets. (It’s just insane 🤩 what is called racism these days but according to some people, what do I know?🫠)
@@josphineogugua Why do you put 'racist' in the title of this video, when you know it is not racism. If it to generate more views, I will respond by blocking your channel. That blocklist has over 150 channels on it momentarily. I hate exaggeration !
@@Jila_Tana I expect you have the ability to read. The title asks “ is the Dutch Education system racist or unfair? Nigerian girl reacts” Does this not sound like a question to you? Just because I have my opinion doesn’t mean everyone’s opinion is like mine. The aim is to get people from different view points to have a conversation as to why their view points are different and see things from different peoples perspective.
@@josphineogugua Posing things as a question is a nice convenient way to lift the lid of a smelly pit or to suggest there exists a smelly pit .. So even if something is not what the question reflects, no harm done right, cause it is just a question ? I want to type a very offensive question here about your person and then see if you get mad at me at which I would respond to with 'Why are you mad, you can see it is a question, it doesn't reflect my opinion in the slightest', meanwhile I did mention such nastiness. But I'm not such a person who would do that, not even if it would generate more income for me.
@@Jila_Tana if the question I asked stemmed from me, my perception and is some question I made up just for it to be a discussion topic… then your argument will make the slightest sense. The United Nations has a statement demanding the Dutch Government to look into racism in their school system.. there are literally articles talking about institutional racism in the Dutch education school system. I bring this to my page and ask people to air their views. Is the Dutch education system what it has been accused of or is it different? One thing about people who know nothing about content creation is that they think everything is about the money. I’m not even going to respond to the ignorance. So please if you’ve got nothing else to contribute to actually help people understand the education system better. Then bye ✌🏾
Ok I got a question. Why would a Nigerian be concerned about the Dutch education system being racist or unfair. Did someone force her or her children to go to school in the Netherlands? Also, why do Africans move to Europe and North America and then complain about racism?
Because they are also tax payers and have to right to speak up about their experiences
because she lives here?
it,s their country they can be as unfair as they want lol