UMG vs TikTok…Sh*t Just Got Real

2024 ж. 31 Қаң.
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In this episode, I discuss why Universal Music Group is removing music from TikTok. From the New York Times: "Universal Music Group, the world’s largest music company, said it would revoke the licenses for its vast catalog of songs from TikTok after its current contract expires on Wednesday if the two companies could not reach a new deal addressing Universal’s concerns over artist compensation, artificial intelligence and other issues."
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Justin Scott
Terence Mark
Farren Mahjoor
Jason Murray
Lucienne Kilpatrick
Alexander Young
Jason Wagner
Todd Ladner
Rob Kline
Nicholas Long
Tim Benson
Leonardo Martins da Costa Rodrigues
Eddie Perez
David Solomon
MICHAEL JOYCE
Stephen Stubbs
colin stead
Jonathan Wentworth-Linton
Patrick Payne
MATTHEW KARIS
Matthew Barouch
Shaun Samuels
Danny Kurywchak
Gregory Reedy
Sean Coleman
Alexander Verbitskiy
CL Turner
Jason Pappafotis
John Fulford
Margaret Carno
Robert C
David M Combs
Eric Flatt
Reto Spoerli
Herr Moritz Adam
Monte St. Johns
Jon Beezley
Peter DeVault
Eric Nabstedt
Eric Beggs
Rich Germano
Brian Bloom
Peter Pillitteri

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  • UMG is not about protecting the artists, it's about maximizing their profit.

    @angusmacangus3181@angusmacangus31813 ай бұрын
    • Of course. And for the CCP it's about maximising their power and control. I choose the greedy money guys.

      @fuckamericanidiot@fuckamericanidiot3 ай бұрын
    • & to control every possible aspect of a band/artist/song/merchandise/etc etc.

      @rogers6168@rogers61683 ай бұрын
    • They have to say that so they don’t get sued

      @jaharireggae4296@jaharireggae42963 ай бұрын
    • And only that

      @jasonfanclub4267@jasonfanclub42673 ай бұрын
    • Like ANY business!

      @DMSProduktions@DMSProduktions3 ай бұрын
  • All in all it’s a sad story for music… last year was the first year young music students complaint about the length of the songs we played during the lesson at music school. Several students said to me please let’s only play songs which aren’t longer then 60 or 90 seconds. I was totally devasted to hear something so absolutely stupid of my students… and all of them are heavy TikTok users. So what can I say: I hate TikTok

    @DirkLeibenguth@DirkLeibenguth3 ай бұрын
    • I agree! Tiktok is garbage

      @ChristinaEarlymorn@ChristinaEarlymorn3 ай бұрын
    • Sorry but this just sounds like a bit of a boomer take? Of course students want less work. Every other subject is giving them work. But for even for beginners of all ages, we've been giving them short songs for years. Mary Had a Little Lamb, Yankee Doodle etc. and it's because doing something short and repeatable is much easier to building findamentals than long songs requiring memorization. They graduate to longer pieces when they have the skill for it. There's lots of really good reasons to dislike Tiktok, the negative engagement loop, the hive of misinformation, cultivating art as disposable, the painful promotion cycles artists have to go through now which no one enjoys watching or doing. Short songs just isn't one of them.

      @MatthewStevensOrMattDave@MatthewStevensOrMattDave3 ай бұрын
    • I guess they were not big progressive rock fans?

      @Dr_Do-Little@Dr_Do-Little3 ай бұрын
    • It become an issue when high schooler want to stick to Mary had a little Lamb. @@MatthewStevensOrMattDave

      @Dr_Do-Little@Dr_Do-Little3 ай бұрын
    • @@MatthewStevensOrMattDave If he's working with 7 year olds, you might have a point.

      @davidwilson6577@davidwilson65773 ай бұрын
  • Millions of younger generations are getting exposed to classic music and artists through reaction videos on KZhead and yet the record labels frequently take them down. Shows how clueless these companies are and out of touch with the public.

    @bloodnthuner@bloodnthuner3 ай бұрын
  • Restricting music has never ever made me stream, buy, or listen to it.

    @Xsetsu@Xsetsu3 ай бұрын
    • Ikr?

      @JohnDoe-vy5hh@JohnDoe-vy5hh3 ай бұрын
    • The publisher is the 1 missing OUT on FREE advertising...

      @DMSProduktions@DMSProduktions3 ай бұрын
    • The poster boy for that is Prince, a man ahead of his time, who restricted his music to the point that I never got to listen to it or want it. It was his decision and I respected it.

      @RockinRobbins13@RockinRobbins133 ай бұрын
    • Short sighted people.

      @DontLetTheOldManIn@DontLetTheOldManIn3 ай бұрын
    • @@DMSProduktions Yup, there is plenty of music I originally found out or got into through what would be called unsavory means. Most of it I went on to spend tons of money on albums, concerts, etc. after founding out about it.

      @Xsetsu@Xsetsu3 ай бұрын
  • We need more Bandcamp, and less UMG & TikTok.

    @Diatonic5th@Diatonic5th3 ай бұрын
    • bandcamp is not the same as it was back then

      @automachinehead@automachinehead3 ай бұрын
    • @@automachinehead How so? I used to post on there, what has changed about it?

      @superstimulatedminotaur3681@superstimulatedminotaur36813 ай бұрын
    • @@superstimulatedminotaur3681 to many crap artists making a name for themselves

      @automachinehead@automachinehead3 ай бұрын
    • bandcamp bans ppl for political reasons

      @cheery-hex@cheery-hex3 ай бұрын
    • Bandcamp was bought by Songtradr last fall and a month later they laid off half of the employees.

      @reidwhitton6248@reidwhitton62483 ай бұрын
  • This whole thing bothers me. I think tiktok is a very awful platform, but something about only a few music companies owning the majority of the entire music catalog, and them deciding where music is allowed to be used or not, also seems wrong. I don't know which party to root for. In fact I don't like both parties.

    @jonashormann5700@jonashormann57003 ай бұрын
    • Despite consolidation in the music industry and record companies buying so many artists music catalogs, it is still up to the artists themselves if they sign agreements with those labels and publishers. Tic Tok and AI do not give anything to the artists, no matter how much of their work is used (unless forced to - like the previous agreement between UMG and Tic Tok, which does not apply to AI generated "art"). Seems fairly clear cut which is worse for anyone that makes art.

      @williestyle35@williestyle353 ай бұрын
    • There are 1156 things wrong with UMG, and yet they are still better and less evil than TikTok.

      @fuckamericanidiot@fuckamericanidiot3 ай бұрын
    • @@user-Aaron- Almost but not. It's actually as if a propaganda arm of the CCP is one of the most evil things in the world of human beings.

      @fuckamericanidiot@fuckamericanidiot3 ай бұрын
    • i hate tiktok so i'll side with universal studios this time

      @automachinehead@automachinehead3 ай бұрын
    • @@EbonyPope - Have you seen any of the videos about teachers being fed up with Gen-Alpha students? How 8th graders can't spell, read or count past a 3rd grade level and all that? This generation of parents for schoolkids is so far the worst and their kids will be a disaster. Ask an early Gen-X grandparent.

      @chrisrj9871@chrisrj98713 ай бұрын
  • In Germany we call what UMG just did "cutting off the branch you are sitting on".

    @imagiro1@imagiro13 ай бұрын
    • lol they don’t need TikTok hahaha what a clown statement

      @dhdhdhdbbthomoline8860@dhdhdhdbbthomoline88603 ай бұрын
    • TIKTOK is just too load that's why cochera didn't sell out this year.

      @lenitypious6579@lenitypious65793 ай бұрын
    • Good one 😂

      @jasonfanclub4267@jasonfanclub42673 ай бұрын
    • What is the saying in German?

      @MundoSportiva@MundoSportiva3 ай бұрын
    • @@MundoSportiva "Den Ast absägen, auf dem man sitzt."

      @stefan_becker@stefan_becker3 ай бұрын
  • It's baffling to me in that over the last 25 years the major labels are still dominating music. An entire indie ecosystem should have emerged from the internet and yet if anything it's gone backwards. Why are audiences still under the mainstream spell?

    @JWLearning@JWLearning3 ай бұрын
    • The average listener is just a consumer that wants to mindlessly listen to whatever is thrown at him - a small portion of people actually seek out new and interesting content. The internet ecosystem emerged, but people didn't really care. It's the same with any media really, folks just get comfortable with the big couple services and ignore all others.

      @Gn_Arnold@Gn_Arnold3 ай бұрын
    • The majority love to conform and will listen to whatever is made popular. Doesn't help than its hard work to find good music now.

      @sharpvidtube@sharpvidtube3 ай бұрын
    • The governing philosophy and culture has changed drastically. Frank Zappa said it best when he talked about how it used to be aging businessmen with cigars and suits that ran the industry in the 50's and 60's. They didn't have a clue or care about telling artists what music to make, they just wanted hipfire profits which means a lot of different music was given a chance. Yet they're still the lesser evil compared to the industry climate now. Presently, it's dictated by fairly narcissistic and artistically self-imposed young hip dudes that have the power to tell the population what music to listen to. The diverse palette of different music that used to be offered to the mainstream, has now been reduced to independent artists and struggling KZhead musicians hidden away in the algorithm with 300 subscribers.

      @TOCS94@TOCS943 ай бұрын
    • Because we're sheep.

      @southboundguitar@southboundguitar3 ай бұрын
    • Just another scribble on the sub-stream walls of KZhead. Graffiti.

      @humboldthammer@humboldthammer3 ай бұрын
  • if you find one artist that thinks a major publishing label cares about them, you'll find an artist that's on their payroll.

    @rd-um4sp@rd-um4sp3 ай бұрын
    • Well, they care for the big acts, just not everyone else.

      @butchjohnson9736@butchjohnson97363 ай бұрын
    • no joke i saw someone defending this situation on facebook because they work at a label owned by UMG and were trying to say that we have it all wrong and that UMG really does care about the artists......sure buddy suuuuureeeee

      @offthecufff@offthecufff3 ай бұрын
    • He's fooling himself

      @gahan101@gahan1013 ай бұрын
    • @@offthecufff Must be a WOKE thing!

      @DMSProduktions@DMSProduktions3 ай бұрын
    • An employee earning money at their job? Remarkable...🙄

      @dickstryker@dickstryker3 ай бұрын
  • I see Rick Beato commenting on a drama, I CLICK

    @lubie_ogorky@lubie_ogorky3 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for speaking up! This directly hurt us… we’re an independent artist under the UMG distribution umbrella. All our songs on TikTok were muted. All CEOs - Spotify, TikTok, Record Labels. They all get their bag while we all fight for “exposure scraps” artist are always last to get paid a dime. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!! 💀💀💀

    @Dead_Posey@Dead_Posey3 ай бұрын
    • Don’t work with UMG.

      @zaiquiri1799@zaiquiri17993 ай бұрын
    • ​@@zaiquiri1799Lmao, that's like telling a Computer Engineer not to work for Google or Microsoft if pay is great

      @ZackAngelMusic@ZackAngelMusic3 ай бұрын
    • Off with their heads, indeed! Labels are hot garbage!

      @geoffschuller4875@geoffschuller48753 ай бұрын
    • @@ZackAngelMusicdumb comparison

      @joco2826@joco28263 ай бұрын
    • I Don't Care, Tik Tok are now Woke And starting it's downfall

      @KingBowser77766@KingBowser777663 ай бұрын
  • Ted Gioia just had a substack post on Universal vs TicToc among other related toipcs (copyright, etc). As always he makes some very interesting points on how regardless of the UMG/TicTok dispute resolves, the creator/artists will continue to the "on the menu" and not at the dinner table.

    @mandobob@mandobob3 ай бұрын
  • Don't support any platforms that rip off their users content. They monetise your hard work, and either don't pay you, or if you have are beyond wildly popular they pay an absolute pittance. Boycott.

    @OriginalRaveParty@OriginalRaveParty3 ай бұрын
    • The problem is, the vast majority of people wont do that. They keep using platforms that rip them off, while complaining about it. I lose sympathy.

      @sharpvidtube@sharpvidtube3 ай бұрын
    • but most of the music were got more popular because of tik tok, tik tok werent a dance platform in the first place

      @turbonaqhwi7497@turbonaqhwi74973 ай бұрын
    • Actually support artists by buying physical product like CDs or LPs.

      @HamptonGuitars@HamptonGuitars3 ай бұрын
  • Just can't stop staring at your guitars while you speak. Man, I've never seen so many Les Pauls together in my life.

    @jazedje@jazedje3 ай бұрын
    • Look up Slash's collection. He's got an ARMY of LPs. Good for them, I've got zero 😢

      @lippi2171@lippi21713 ай бұрын
    • @@lippi2171 🎸❤️‍🔥

      @jazedje@jazedje3 ай бұрын
    • Not everyone is classy enough to have a wall full of Stratocasters 😉

      @whatabouttheearth@whatabouttheearth3 ай бұрын
    • go to a guitar store

      @AB-tq7ys@AB-tq7ys3 ай бұрын
  • these are some of my fav videos, Rick. Artists, record companys and technology fighting. And you provide insight.

    @Robotron2084psn@Robotron2084psn3 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for giving the content creator perspective on this and so many different subjects. On the general theme of blocked content: I still don't understand why bands like Led Zeppelin are so shortsighted that they won't allow you to use their music so that younger generations will learn about it and, hey, maybe even make some money for them and their kids.

    @mattspokane@mattspokane3 ай бұрын
  • It's a bit reminiscent of the late 90s when mp3s were new and Universal said "we don't want anything to do with music downloads"

    @johnupdate@johnupdate3 ай бұрын
    • MP3's are not a propaganda arm of the CCP.

      @fuckamericanidiot@fuckamericanidiot3 ай бұрын
    • no it isn't. they had a deal with TikTok. They don't want to pay anymore.

      @jeffreymagnum4484@jeffreymagnum44843 ай бұрын
    • That was never a thing on the news until 2000.

      @chrisrj9871@chrisrj98713 ай бұрын
    • Still, though, the groundwork for modern file sharing technologies ​was being set thirty years prior, and the music industry ignored it.. and then once modern compression and encoding came along the music industry still continued to ignore it.. and then when broadband became more widely adopted and storage costs plummetted they still kept continuing to ignore it, as if it might all just go away somehow, all the way up until the first lawsuits which were in the news leading into and all throughout 1999, i.e. "the late nineties" and well into 2000, 2001 etc... It's just like a continued pattern of repeatedly finding every possible way to not embrace the new thing, to not do what is best for you and your artists and fans and creators and everyone involved - and instead always opting to do the thing that hurts the largest possible number of people, all over their new yacht needing to be 130 feet instead of 120 feet.. I say f*ck major labels and f*ck the people that run them. All we're doing is feeding the bellies of the fat pigs perpetually perpetrating abuses and exploitations of the artists we say we love so much. @chrisrj9871

      @mplstechone@mplstechone3 ай бұрын
    • @@mplstechone If you want this to gain traction it needs to be a statement rather than a reply.

      @PowRKord@PowRKord3 ай бұрын
  • This really reminds me of the Music Industry Vs Google once they acquired KZhead but with a AI bend. There's a dangerous notion that a short clip or piece of music (under 20 sec) can't be claimed by copyright or taken down. Big media and big artists have never been keen for others to piggyback onto their coin. Greed is always good with mega media.

    @leokimvideo@leokimvideo3 ай бұрын
    • AI is the wrench in the works. If this kerfuffle prompts some curtailing of its parasitic nature, all other parties are better for it.

      @ironymatt@ironymatt3 ай бұрын
    • American greed, as usual. It's pathetic!

      @alexanderjames6328@alexanderjames63283 ай бұрын
    • But, wait a minute, how much is Goggle worth? All those clips of music bring viewers which bring ad dollars to Google. It's been like this since the beginning, with these internet companies acting like, oh, we are trying so hard to fight the good fight against the greedy music companies, while raking in huge amounts of money off the backs of pretty much all content owners, not just the music companies. A quick check shows UMG's value as fifty something billion and Google's as 1.7'ish trillion dollars. I'm having trouble figuring how how UMG is the greedy one, or the greedier one anyway.

      @deanroddey2881@deanroddey28813 ай бұрын
    • @@alexanderjames6328UMG is a Dutch company

      @dyldog@dyldog3 ай бұрын
    • @@alexanderjames6328has nothing to do with America. Rich people are always greedy

      @cosas_de_gatos@cosas_de_gatos3 ай бұрын
  • I did hear this news report, but your video finally put it into context.

    @MikeDial@MikeDial3 ай бұрын
  • One of the great things about now days as a musician is you don’t need record label anymore to promote your music. But it is frustrating when you want to do a cover song on any platform it gets blocked by those companies.Especially if the creator put a lot of time and effort into it. Love the videos Rick keep up the great work.

    @jamesfafrak7288@jamesfafrak72883 ай бұрын
    • Not having it is not equal to not needing it. You can publish anything you want on the internet, but forget about local promotion and concerts. They were always needed, it's just that the most little ones got converted into payed promotion services because they can't afford the risk of promoting new artists. The root of it is the death of the disc. Nobody buying? Then nobody selling. Free singles for everybody and 90€ tickets for a concert. Nowadays music is considered by most people as a free asset, but they will pay an expensive ticket to see them live.

      @miquelmarti6537@miquelmarti65373 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for explaining this issue, you are appreciated!!!

    @karlkinkead1533@karlkinkead15333 ай бұрын
  • This is important news for musicians and music creators Rick! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and bringing awareness to all lovers of music brother!

    @andresimmons1906@andresimmons19063 ай бұрын
  • When it comes to things like this, I always like watching your videos because you always keep up-to-date on current events involving music. And I have to say that I actually agree. I do think that this isn’t gonna last very long. I feel like this will last a couple weeks to a couple months at best. For a lot of artists, both big and small TikTok is a major source of music advertising for a lot of the smaller artist it’s their only source of advertising because it’s the fastest way to go viral. Even big name, artist will suffer a little bit maybe not as much as the smaller artist but no one’s winning in this situation, so they will be forced to come up with a solution very soon.

    @jaharireggae4296@jaharireggae42963 ай бұрын
  • Ok Rick. I'm ready for your opinion on the totally new Billy Joel single that dropped yesterday!!!! So grateful for all of your content. Thank you for sharing your gifts so generously. Blessings!

    @christopherdavis1109@christopherdavis11093 ай бұрын
  • Pay people properly!

    @WonderrDogg@WonderrDogg3 ай бұрын
  • As a music professor, I hate tiktok. Kids come to me only wanting to learn a chorus or a few seconds of music.

    @Lengsham@Lengsham3 ай бұрын
    • If you work at an institution, there's nothing you can do about it. You need to teach whatever you're required to teach. However, if you do private, one-to-one lessons, grab the opportunity and adapt: tuition takes shorter for a chorus or riff than for a whole song or to understand all the theory behind. They just want to learn to play or sing that part. Preparing that short part takes you really much shorter than preparing a whole song. So you can charge students for shorter periods of «flash» tuition, let's say 30 minutes instead of an hour, and profit from having more students per day, while enjoying more free time because you have to work way less preparing the brief material they want to learn. That period I was a part-time guitar teacher I had to understand I had to teach my students what they wanted to learn, not what I wanted to teach.

      @riangarianga@riangarianga3 ай бұрын
    • @@riangarianga You've hit the nail on the head. At the moment I teach Piano to 75 kids a week one-to-one 20min lessons. All other teachers locally doing similar stuff. Just think it's a bit sad that they only listen to snippets of songs.

      @Lengsham@Lengsham3 ай бұрын
    • @@Lengsham Don't question yourself, the whole thing is gross.

      @fuckamericanidiot@fuckamericanidiot3 ай бұрын
    • you gotta start somewhere, prof

      @Robotron2084psn@Robotron2084psn3 ай бұрын
    • @@Lengshamagree with ya on the snippets. It’s ADD culture because that’s how tic Tok was designed. What I find incredible is say synthwave is used so much in tic Tok you tube shorts. Sounds nothing like the 80s yet brings a nostalgic that people want from that era. Ryan Gosling Drive/Blade runner into meme music. These are crazy times.

      @koejoe@koejoe3 ай бұрын
  • I’m your age Rick. As every generation says, I’m glad I grew up when I did. I only use Facebook and KZhead for social media. There is way too much out there to absorb. Glad you and others provide the content that you feel is worthy. All the old business models are disappearing. But memories will always remain.

    @michaelyahn3125@michaelyahn31253 ай бұрын
    • I'm only 32 years old.. But I Know old is Gold.. Facebook, KZhead and Google are enough for me..

      @jamespyngrope77@jamespyngrope773 ай бұрын
  • Really love this content talking about the politics of the mega music corp and labels and such. Helps us smaller artists and creators get ahead of the curve for sure!

    @jaspershreds101@jaspershreds1013 ай бұрын
  • Small Royalties being paid to bands is one reason they now re-record their Hit Songs for say commercials etc... so the Band gets Paid

    @JTB--@JTB--3 ай бұрын
    • I've always heard Sly and the Family Stone made more money for the Toyota commercial than they earned as artists in their entire career to that point.

      @kastnerr@kastnerr3 ай бұрын
    • Almost all top tier musicians are overpaid. The majority of musicians working day to in pubs and clubs are underpaid.

      @steveinn423@steveinn4233 ай бұрын
    • ​@@steveinn423 this is not really true. Major musical acts get more money from touring and having their songs placed in ads, than they make in royalties from the record labels and publishers. Comparing pub bands to major artists is apples to oranges - because they have no royalties from labels and publishers, and rarely play the main stage on a large tour.

      @williestyle35@williestyle353 ай бұрын
    • @@kastnerr Wow-glad to hear it, what tune was it?

      @Marcus_C51@Marcus_C513 ай бұрын
    • @@Marcus_C51 everyday people

      @kastnerr@kastnerr3 ай бұрын
  • Totally agree about catalogue music and the TikTok effect - even Charles Cornell found Our old favourite Crystal Waters because of the slickback video sample (which we oldies recognised immediately and told our kids that this used to be OUR music!) 😅

    @cooldebt@cooldebt3 ай бұрын
    • Well, and it's not just TikTok and YT...it's also video games as well. I constantly see posters going "GoW (or Fallout 4, or whatever) brought me here." I mean, who knew Wonder Woman Lynda Carter was a singer and has her own catalogue? I didn't, until I went looking on YT after hearing her in F4.

      @tetedur377@tetedur3773 ай бұрын
    • Plus, when an old song gets popular, the song will be pushed out to where it’s unbearable.

      @Funnilittlething@Funnilittlething3 ай бұрын
  • Great video, Rich. Keep posting this kind of shorter, informative videos on the music industry. Really interesting to see this without biased corporative POVs.

    @TheKatraponga@TheKatraponga3 ай бұрын
  • Rick . You have become my daily/ weekly news outlet for all things musical . You talk about topics that are truly important to musicians. Great content , keep up good work.

    @peterrebell8305@peterrebell83053 ай бұрын
  • The major labels are basically the modern music's mafia

    @OXOfficial@OXOfficial3 ай бұрын
    • didnt he and another musician tell us that there was only 4 producers soliciting All of band/artists in the US?they also own all of the radio stations, so No new indie musicians ever gets a chance to play to the masses ,unless it gets viral here on yt!which is super rare!

      @johnbernhardtsen3008@johnbernhardtsen30083 ай бұрын
    • And TikTok is the modern communist Mafia. Too bad they both can't lose.

      @iLumberjack@iLumberjack3 ай бұрын
    • always been.

      @jurassicthunder@jurassicthunder3 ай бұрын
    • Cue astronaut holding gun

      @TranscendentBen@TranscendentBen3 ай бұрын
    • Always...

      @jriron1@jriron13 ай бұрын
  • Shout out to the independent artist with ACTUAL talent! 👏🏾 This is your moment!

    @saint.hudson13@saint.hudson133 ай бұрын
  • Your insight and understanding of the music industry is amazing, thank you for such a concise summary of the situation.

    @malspeedie@malspeedie3 ай бұрын
  • Big music companies have NEVER looked out for the artist ! In more cases than not the artists themselves had to fight for any penny they got and the Big Companies were always on the look out for some sneaky contract that would benefit them only and smile really really big to get the SIGN UP ! Many artists told these companies to go shove it and started labels of their own . Some made it big while others flopped. Have not thought about any of this for some great time but your video brought back what I knew from the early . Yeah I am not anyone of note but a guitar and flute and bass and piano player and a music lover . :O)

    @SumNumber@SumNumber3 ай бұрын
  • Greedy vs Greedy. I do reviews on my channel and they almost always get flagged for copyright disputes despite engaging in legitimate fair is as is my lawful right affirmed by fair use law & rulings. Both these companies can go f themselves. KZhead too.

    @MusicOrLoseItTV@MusicOrLoseItTV3 ай бұрын
    • Greedy vs CCP Greedy. I kind of wish they could both lose.

      @iLumberjack@iLumberjack3 ай бұрын
    • @@iLumberjack Yep 👍

      @MusicOrLoseItTV@MusicOrLoseItTV3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@iLumberjack Amen

      @WolverineTheApex@WolverineTheApex3 ай бұрын
    • No, business vs business

      @maxx.mazzeo@maxx.mazzeo3 ай бұрын
    • Let them fight

      @maxxpower3d6@maxxpower3d63 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for giving it to us straight. Its always about the $.

    @brawdys@brawdys3 ай бұрын
  • You hit the nail on the head Rick, they both need each other.

    @Guitarandgearfreak@Guitarandgearfreak3 ай бұрын
  • I appreciate you sharing. I'm disappointed how my positive content on TikTok is muted, and there's no way to identify what music to use that is not copied, Wright. It's just an ego mess. Make sure artists are paid. There's enough $ for all. Peace✊🏽

    @mcollins1399@mcollins13993 ай бұрын
  • Awesome! TikTok is one of the worst things to happen to music...ever. Shut them down.

    @belltown88squid28@belltown88squid283 ай бұрын
    • So shut down all of the creators who are just normal people that use TT for community & promoting their art, dances, brands, news, etc bc you dislike that corporations are all greedy. 🤦🏾‍♀️

      @loladanger@loladanger3 ай бұрын
    • @@loladanger a TikTok user much?

      @riteasrain@riteasrain3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@loladangerthey can do that ANYWHERE else. since every app is turning into tiktok...

      @jurassicthunder@jurassicthunder3 ай бұрын
    • @@riteasrain yes, I am a TikTok user & I know a ton of ppl who run their businesses off of TikTok. Artisans, makers, dancers, poets, and ppl who make educational videos about History, STEM & social justice. There are entire communities on TikTok. It’s not just music & dancing.

      @loladanger@loladanger3 ай бұрын
    • @@riteasrain What’s even more interesting is that you are a creator & artist here on YT with a platform to promote your music & interests, but you want to take that away from other artists. How sad.

      @loladanger@loladanger3 ай бұрын
  • All artist should go independent and have these platforms and companies pay them directly. They are making billions off of the artist. We need to wake up.

    @Circharles@Circharles3 ай бұрын
  • Thank you Rick. Very educational.

    @PianoGuitarVocal@PianoGuitarVocal3 ай бұрын
  • Not sure what to think other than I greatly appreciate you taking about it and giving us your take.

    @stephenstange4194@stephenstange41943 ай бұрын
  • Buy music the old school way like in LP’s and CD’s - and support our beloved Rick with a 👍🏻🙌🏻🤘🏻

    @Marvidsen1973@Marvidsen19733 ай бұрын
  • The mainstream musical landscape is just unlistenable.

    @tdz69@tdz693 ай бұрын
  • Great segment Rick..All true.. Imagine artists from way back in the day that are struggling financially now and all of a sudden a Tiktok or KZhead video goes viral and these folks are making money from recordings they did 40-50 years ago like the Fleetwood Mac song you referenced. Not that Fleetwood Mac is hurting but many artists are unfortunately.

    @sportsclubhub@sportsclubhub3 ай бұрын
    • I honestly feel it's much more rare that older songs get a resurgence in popularity. All I see are the same top 40 garbage in these TikTok videos.

      @peachcobblercake3968@peachcobblercake39683 ай бұрын
  • Great Video! Would love to see more stuff about the business of music.

    @sido6992@sido69923 ай бұрын
  • This is rich coming from a corporation that lost some of the most precious master tapes in contemporary music through it's own managerial incompetence.

    @spud2go@spud2go3 ай бұрын
    • Indeed. I will never, ever forgive them for that.

      @artturnerjr@artturnerjr3 ай бұрын
  • Rick is spot on. Look at what happened when Linda Ronstadt's 'Long Long Time' was played on The Last Of Us.

    @jameslarosa2396@jameslarosa23963 ай бұрын
    • did the music director for The Last Of Us pay for the synch or did they tell Linda it would be good exposure so they need it for free?

      @jeffreymagnum4484@jeffreymagnum44843 ай бұрын
    • @@jeffreymagnum4484 I don't know. You would have to ask them. The point is the extra exposure the song received. It shot up on Spotify and probably got many more plays all around on other music apps. Maybe even some people bought the song or album.

      @jameslarosa2396@jameslarosa23963 ай бұрын
    • and Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill" on stranger things.

      @mauree1618@mauree16183 ай бұрын
    • Without TikTok, that likely would not have happened.

      @jamesnylan@jamesnylan3 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for clarifying what this is really about. You are the greatest.

    @glennsmith3303@glennsmith33033 ай бұрын
  • There are lots of examples of music companies taking advantage of artists... 'nuff said. Keep up the great work Rick - you Rock !!!

    @theboomers420@theboomers4203 ай бұрын
  • We should all be worried about TikTok

    @barbaradunn5413@barbaradunn54133 ай бұрын
    • It would be wonderful if TikTok didn’t exist

      @dhdhdhdbbthomoline8860@dhdhdhdbbthomoline88603 ай бұрын
    • @@dhdhdhdbbthomoline8860 TikTok is banned in my country India. US should also ban this Chinese company.

      @sajisguitar@sajisguitar3 ай бұрын
  • At least Universal is ‘saying’ what needs to be said - protecting real human artists from AI. Their motives may not be pure but that message and (most importantly) sticking by it is paramount.

    @JulesFox@JulesFox3 ай бұрын
    • I can bet all chips that they're already working with AI companies behind thr scenes as we're speaking

      @arseeoliveira6934@arseeoliveira69343 ай бұрын
    • I could not agree more. Any creative work should be by human hand and not artificially created.

      @antonioravina@antonioravina3 ай бұрын
    • lol, dont be gullible all your life.

      @krusher74@krusher743 ай бұрын
    • They don't care about artists and they will use AI as soon as they know they will mmake money with it. They care about their money, they want their cut. Most artists don't need to care about this since their income comes from concerts and sponsors, and TikTok/IG/YT make them popular and visible

      @RafaDBass@RafaDBass3 ай бұрын
    • @@antonioravina How can it be stopped? There was no way to stop autotune, while it often sounds horrible to me, it seems a lot of people like it. AI produced music sounds horrible to me, but I can see it becoming popular. Most modern music is heavily influenced by past music, so trying to claim AI is doing something worse than that, isn't going to be easy.

      @sharpvidtube@sharpvidtube3 ай бұрын
  • Candid and insightful, I'm pleased to follow you

    @Jamie-ec4mf@Jamie-ec4mf3 ай бұрын
  • Love ur Channel!!

    @giulyanv@giulyanv2 ай бұрын
  • It's like the two major parties. Don't support either. Need a third option.

    @craigroaring@craigroaring3 ай бұрын
    • And a fourth and a fifth...

      @Stanky5000@Stanky50003 ай бұрын
    • We need today's Geffen. Maybe Musk can step up...

      @jimideez9829@jimideez98293 ай бұрын
    • Having two giants beat each other up, is better than one being uncontested.

      @Seth9809@Seth98093 ай бұрын
    • @@Seth9809 Unless it's a two party system in which both "options" work for the same people.

      @craigroaring@craigroaring3 ай бұрын
    • That's the smartest most practical comment I've seen on here. First people need to boycott universal. There needs to be a report on the Most fair corporations . Some are always better than others and use them. There's always honest billionaires.

      @robertpolnicky7702@robertpolnicky77023 ай бұрын
  • Whatever happens I am sure the creators will be the ones getting screwed and the ones with the money will be making even more money.After all creators by nature just gave to create and most consumers are helpless but to have to consume.

    @dareangelmusic@dareangelmusic3 ай бұрын
  • Ultimately, we, the artists, do have the ability to own our masters and totally bypass the labels completely by having profitable careers independently. Let's build that option together ✌️

    @IntiMaldonado@IntiMaldonado3 ай бұрын
    • Even if you own your masters, who will buy your music and how, enough to continue your career? UNDER the top of the iceberg it's a disaster for artists/musicians. Even artists/bands on the top of the iceberg are selling their back catalogs. Touring and merch? If you have enough fans: ok. But what about aging? And who will pay your touring manager (and your team)? One cannot be artist + songwriter + lawyer + (record) producer + manager + graphic designer + distributer + A&R + promo, business and production expert + mixing and mastering monster +++ Don't get me wrong: I am with you, but, what are the consequences of your "option"? Not all labels are "Dogs". We are living in a time that tons of artists must be very lucky that an (honest pro-artist) label even "wants" to sign "some" of them. I guess approx. 50.000 songs are released each day... Please, read on Wiki the Laws of Gossen. Again, I am in your corner, but it's so complex. Tom

      @tomschoepen@tomschoepen3 ай бұрын
  • great video! Be interesting to see what happens.

    @Bradleytwentyseven@Bradleytwentyseven3 ай бұрын
  • Truth be told, they’re both greedy and I’m not rooting for either of them

    @tylerhackner9731@tylerhackner97313 ай бұрын
    • all businesses are greedy by definition, if we didn't have greed to some extent we would still be living in grass huts.

      @nicebluejay@nicebluejay3 ай бұрын
    • All companies are greedy (or should be according to Gordon Gekko). Not all of them are front organizations for genocidal dictatorships like TikTok is.

      @justinsayin3979@justinsayin39793 ай бұрын
  • As someone who has been writing about indie artists for the last 14 years I think I love this. Maybe it will force Tik Tok to find other sources of great music and f*ck there is so much phenomenal music being self produced with NO record deals. I don't know, in the end I have a feeling that indie artists will always be disrespected.

    @americanpancakelive@americanpancakelive3 ай бұрын
    • Have you heard of the IndieSleaze movement? The entire early 2000’s indie scene is being catalogued on Insta. Indie band The Go! Team are f*+*+*g AMAZING.

      @nka3387@nka33873 ай бұрын
  • another great video good lob rick love ya man .

    @michaellandrumguitar@michaellandrumguitar3 ай бұрын
  • The guy on the longboard with OceanSpray & a Dream, changed EVERYTHING!

    @RankopediaHarvey@RankopediaHarvey3 ай бұрын
  • Let’s end with all social media and go back to websites. Would be a better world for sure!

    @marceloleitejr@marceloleitejr3 ай бұрын
    • Fully agree!

      @ChristinaEarlymorn@ChristinaEarlymorn3 ай бұрын
    • This is social media.

      @Seth9809@Seth98093 ай бұрын
  • Why people even use TikTok is truly an enigma. Not in a million years would I ever use anything related to TikTok.

    @TheToekutter@TheToekutter3 ай бұрын
    • Me three. Its dangerous and for those with very short attentions. I can't believe someone would hear some of a song then listen to the whole thing over and over on a playlist.

      @kidfreejones@kidfreejones3 ай бұрын
    • Bro you're using KZhead which has the exact same features with shorts

      @jones848@jones8483 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@jones848shorts are completely optional and not youtube's main type of content (regardless of how much google would love that to be the case). I rarely ever watch one. On tiktok shorts is all you have.

      @MechanicalRabbits@MechanicalRabbits3 ай бұрын
    • I don't use tiktok too but yt shorts are mostly come from tiktok so basically you've been duped

      @melvin91motorola@melvin91motorola3 ай бұрын
    • @@jones848 Yeah, but on KZhead you can use shorts to preview long form content. It's also easier to find something you like and just watch a lot of shorts from that person.

      @Seth9809@Seth98093 ай бұрын
  • Awesome content!

    @Sarsour_@Sarsour_3 ай бұрын
  • Rick, you nailed it. The only element I would question is that this will be resolved soon. TT has been in the cross hairs of the government and the music industry for some time now. Creators will adjust;is the industry just imploding yet again?

    @davewilson2961@davewilson29613 ай бұрын
  • Now would be a good time for KZhead to stop being idiots with KZhead Shorts and allow more than one minute videos to truly compete with TikTok. They should have been king of shortform videos.

    @lalondedan@lalondedan3 ай бұрын
  • All corporations are scum.

    @aussieas6655@aussieas66553 ай бұрын
    • Especially the US government

      @BidensTaint@BidensTaint3 ай бұрын
    • You may not like corporations but you’d not have dinner tonight if it wasn’t for business and corporations. And secondly, governments are the ones who kill, and not just by war. Communism and Socialism and Fascism and theocratic rule. It’s proven over and over in history. Keep it in perspective.

      @kirtb9784@kirtb97843 ай бұрын
    • Depends on the corporation or business. In N Out pays very well for a burger place, store managers make well over a $100K a year, Chick-fil-A apparently treats employees good as well. Guess what they have in common... Christianity

      @jr2904@jr29043 ай бұрын
    • @@jr2904 you were right on until the last part. Costco pays their employees well - are they 'Christian'? No. What they all have in common is likely profits that allow them to pay such wages and good boards.

      @halifaxmayor@halifaxmayor3 ай бұрын
  • Universal has also gone after KZhead channels posting live music from their artists too. I got two copyright strikes on my live Queen videos.

    @smashmachine1144@smashmachine11443 ай бұрын
  • If I were a billionaire I would buy all the catalogs that these big record companies own. I would then either give the artists back their songs, or if the artists are dead, put the music into public domain with the stipulation that no one can make money off of it. If anyone wanted to use it in a for-profit endeavor, they would have to pay a mechanical license to rerecord it. That money would then have to be split between the artists who play on the new recording and to the original, deceased artists families. Also, if creators want to be paid/be paid more from a certain platform; a good start would be move to a different platform that does. The only way to change a companies policy is to hit them were it hurts, their pocketbooks.

    @dr4d1s@dr4d1s3 ай бұрын
  • I was actually happy to hear this. Let Universal pull all their music from tiktok forever. More opportunity for tiktok users to discover more independent music. Universal is being indignant & greedy imo. That they are looking out for their artists is laughable. Having said this I think all the social media platforms are ripping off the artists in general.

    @SlipInTheSlideOut@SlipInTheSlideOut3 ай бұрын
  • It's all about, SHOW ME THE MONEY!

    @robert71457@robert714573 ай бұрын
  • always on the trend topics , i was curious about this

    @ThEaGoNy09@ThEaGoNy093 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for explaining this, I was wondering why my TikTok music was taken down. 😞

    @rose2525bud@rose2525bud3 ай бұрын
  • I totally do not get TikTok.

    @wompa70@wompa703 ай бұрын
    • It’s really not that different from Instagram or KZhead. The algorithm is different, and you need to give it a bit of time to learn what you like.

      @FinnGamble@FinnGamble3 ай бұрын
    • It's just social media. It's like Facebook or Instagram or KZhead, but it's shorter videos and the userbase is younger. ....I've noticed it generally promotes creating new content (kinda like KZhead) versus Facebook which is moreso documenting family life.

      @welliott@welliott3 ай бұрын
  • Great video

    @jazzkevin@jazzkevin3 ай бұрын
  • Rick, I love your videos on the "music biz".

    @BARTFUNKBASS@BARTFUNKBASS3 ай бұрын
  • Challenging consider that the artists’ creative efforts are paid in pennies over Spotify and Tiktok… now you have a big corporate monster pulling music as well. If you love an artist, pick up their vinyl or pay $ to buy a few songs! This is why neither model is good for making a living as an artist. Artists should be praised and rewarded for their efforts just like a doctor, lawyer etc.

    @Lfunk1983@Lfunk19833 ай бұрын
  • The most interesting aspect of this dispute Rick only mentioned in passing. That would be the royalty "dilution" effect of having millions of AI created songs sharing the single royalty "pool". That would necessarily mean reduced royalties for human artists.

    @avsystem3142@avsystem31423 ай бұрын
    • I was wondering if anyone would catch that. The AI generation of music is most obviously going to keep diluting the original artists royalties, because it steers consumers away from the source materials.

      @williestyle35@williestyle353 ай бұрын
    • ​@@williestyle35 Hmmm... and WHO collects royalties from the AI generated "work"?! 🤔

      @gabigolescu@gabigolescu3 ай бұрын
    • @@gabigolescu The owners of the AI algorithms if that is a thing?

      @EgoShredder@EgoShredder3 ай бұрын
    • @@gabigolescu technology no one collects "royalties" from the AI generated music, all revenue goes directly to the originator(s) of the AI works - without the middleman of "recording labels" or "publishers". It is why these things are proliferating like crazy.

      @williestyle35@williestyle353 ай бұрын
    • @@williestyle35 Just you wait till the AI "itSELF" (🤔🥴🙀) starts generating sh..stuff ON/OF IT'S OWN...and posts it... with NO human input/intervention! Bwaahahaaa 🤦‍♂️😵

      @gabigolescu@gabigolescu3 ай бұрын
  • love how they're not worried about the dilution of the art form only about the dilution of the funds pool.

    @Tremuoso@Tremuoso3 ай бұрын
    • Because if you don't get paid, you don't have the ability to take the time to make the "art" in the first place.

      @williestyle35@williestyle353 ай бұрын
    • Love how they're not worried about supporting a front company for the genocidal dictator in Peking.

      @justinsayin3979@justinsayin39793 ай бұрын
  • One thing TikTok has over all other social media platforms is the ability for different people to use duet to create full songs in a large collaboration. I’ve done this quite successfully with other artists and it works well. The independent musicians are still out there. We’re using TikTok as a collaborative tool to get our names out into the forefront while the big labels pull their music.

    @fire831rescue@fire831rescue3 ай бұрын
  • You make some very good points, Rick!

    @Z17xMachine@Z17xMachine3 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for the Beato perspective Rick. This is why we subscribe. Sadly as you have indicated, the labels and social media platforms in general are continuing to do what they've done to most musical artists for decades. It's a sexual term that describes what they're up to (...and I won't repeat here) but it's not a pleasant experience.

    @cameronman1@cameronman13 ай бұрын
  • I noticed independent labels are now 30% up just a bit from a few years ago. Copyright is a legit thing, but I wonder if it protects artists or just owners. Seems too often artists are lost in the mix even though they are the face, the voice, and (used to be) the sound that drives the whole thing. The AI angle is weirdly poignant, how quickly did that start impacting things? There was an election in Slovakia recently impacted by AI as well. It’s a big challenge.

    @christiansmakingmusic777@christiansmakingmusic7773 ай бұрын
  • Yup. I love Fleetwood Mac now. Even bought Rumours & Self Titled on vinyl.

    @jonyoungmusic@jonyoungmusic3 ай бұрын
  • Here here! Well said~

    @yougoseo1580@yougoseo15803 ай бұрын
  • Yo Rick.. you rule!

    @vadeout.@vadeout.3 ай бұрын
  • I am probably behind the curve and not connected, but I go to concerts every week, buy CD's, scan Spotify all the time and collect vinyl. Music is an obsession. I have never listened to TikTok and I cannot see why nor how it could improve my love for the art. Do you want to support artists, then go to their shows.

    @hermanblinkhoven1856@hermanblinkhoven18563 ай бұрын
    • Going to shows is the artists' bread and butter.

      @robert71457@robert714573 ай бұрын
    • If the artists never go nearby where you are, that sounds like commercial suicide.

      @riangarianga@riangarianga3 ай бұрын
    • and please buy the merch and whatever we are selling because that's how we make a living.

      @jurassicthunder@jurassicthunder3 ай бұрын
  • I love music but hate dealing with major labels, especially as a struggling musician. We are single entity players in the studio, and when we're lucky to get the gig, we don't come with lawyers on call to help, only the local musicians union after the fact. 😢

    @baileyward1@baileyward13 ай бұрын
  • Actual topic of this episode (or any given RB episode respectively) aside - I want to emphasize the taste of delicacy for lights/color correction in these videos - KUDOS for whoever is responsible for it - absolut joy for my sophisticated visual eyes 🤤

    @mikakettunen7939@mikakettunen79393 ай бұрын
    • Yeah Rick has a talented editor(s). Bravo to that person or people

      @goldbrick2563@goldbrick25633 ай бұрын
  • The only people who are going to profit from this are the lawyers for both sides. Win or lose, they always get paid.

    @wayneharrison6621@wayneharrison66213 ай бұрын
  • Yes Rick, there is a symbiotic relationship between different media and talent agencies (labels) a good example is Cannons - Fire for You and how that blew up after the Netflix show Never Have I Ever, Or the Running up that hill Netflix - stranger things ( It is just wonderful to see the recognition these inspirational artists deserve come to fruition) and especially wonderful that a new generation discovered Kate Bush.

    @jonsmith7718@jonsmith77183 ай бұрын
  • This is reminiscent of the fighting going on between some pre-1972 artists and oldies radio stations in the 1990s. Flo and Eddie were at the forefront of a battel which started just as music radio was taking a downturn in profitability. Turtles music mostly disappeared from radio for a while. Not good for either side.

    @paulplack490@paulplack4903 ай бұрын
  • Cool! Thank you 👍

    @degstep9968@degstep99683 ай бұрын
  • In the late 70s the recording industry lobbied for a $1 surcharge on blank cassette tapes because the sound quality had gotten high enough to challenge vinyl and people were recording their own or their friends' albums onto tape to play in their car, etc. Similarly, the publishing companies hounded music venues and cover bands to pays taxes and copyright fees. In both cases the industry parties failed to grasp the value of all the free promotion of their product and went for the short-term cash grab. Corporate greed, in a nutshell. I can't count how many albums I purchased after recording a friend's album that I wouldn't have bought otherwise.

    @richardw.rowejr.5443@richardw.rowejr.54433 ай бұрын
    • When your product is actually a person's ability to listen to something then copying tapes or using songs in TikTok shorts, is not free promotion....it's free use! Not only that but it's different because TikTok is getting wealthy off of these shorts. At least when a person copied a tape they weren't making money every time they played it.....but these social platforms are making money when shorts/videos are being watched and often it's the music that really makes the video.

      @stephenwhite5444@stephenwhite54443 ай бұрын
  • If everyone was a little less greedy that would be ideal.

    @MattBakerDrums@MattBakerDrums3 ай бұрын
    • ☝️❤️🙏

      @jesusislukeskywalker4294@jesusislukeskywalker42943 ай бұрын
    • number go up though !

      @fffrrraannkk@fffrrraannkk3 ай бұрын
    • you think americans will give up their freedom?

      @automachinehead@automachinehead3 ай бұрын
  • Beato Breaking News!! Great Video 🤘🤓

    @GuitarTabsDaily@GuitarTabsDaily3 ай бұрын
  • Very well said man!

    @wayne1581@wayne15813 ай бұрын
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