Value of Saving Old Wagon Wheels | Engels Coach Shop
Some wheels can still be productive, while others have value in their history, yet are still worth preserving. I have two wheels that demonstrate both of these categories this week. One will be serviceable, while the older wheel is preserved mainly for it's historical significance. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often involves preservations as well as restorations.
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No better place for a restoration and rehab than at the "Engels Clinic" under the watchful eye of "Dr." Engels. Thanks for allowing us to follow you in your journey and God Bless to You and Mrs. Engels.
Thank you, Dave Engels for restoring the Napier Ranch Wagon wheel to where it can be displayed at the front door to the house. My family used to go hunting at the Napier Ranch outside of Gillette, WY. Joe Napier's parents homesteaded the ranch and the wheel is from one of their wagons. Joe's widow graciously gave me that wheel, and I'm thrilled beyond words to have it restored. Discovering the youtube clip on the restoration process is icing on the cake!
Gentleman you make it look so easy, obviously you are s master of the trade, congratulations, I am a gasoline and diesel technician but before you at my 70 years old I look like a child compare to you, I wish that I could see your shop and your job in person but I am easily 3,000 miles away from you, my most expressive thanks for sharing it with us, blessings to you and your family, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico, Jesús Torres.
From BERMUDA ! Thanks again for identifying some of the values of life !
You gave that old wheel the special care it needed. Lovely.
The ring of the Engle Coach Shop anvil is heard around the world!
Watching a true craftsman utilizing his skills and finess to rehabilitate and save wheels for work and to preserve history. You exhibit the pure joy and satisfaction of doing it right as you preform the various tasks of your craft.. it’s all a real pleasure to watch. Thank you.
As one of the "Geriatrics" in your Corps of Followers, I sincerely appreciate the restorative care you so masterfully provided that highly experienced wheel! It would have been so easy to simply consign it to the burn pile but you helped it continue to share wonderful memories with its family. It would indeed be wonderful to sit around the campfire and listen to the stories it would tell if it could. As always, thanks for allowing us along on your wonderful journey!
Likewise, as a following octogenarian, I salute your skills !!
Thanks for sharing. My grandpa was a Wheelwright He was born in 1900 and died 1974. He used to work on the buggies 1920 to maybe 1935 when cars and rubber tired vehicles were becoming the norm. he would have really appreciated your workshop and the modern tools that help so much to take some of the strain out of the work. That tool for heating the iron tiers would have been amazing for him and of course the routers, planers, powered band saw and spoke tools! He lived in southwest England, UK. I'm a practical guy myself and fancy I would have been an eager Wheelwrights apprentice in a previous life!
As always, watching you work your magic is enthralling!😀
If only that old wheel could talk... But then, we have you to help us listen. Thanks again Dave. I am never bored with your videos.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz - Yep. I emailed Dave about it. Thanks for reply!
@@tonyfletcher2541 Really annoying and the worst part is YT could pretty easily do something to make those, usually Nigerian scammers (As seen on PleasentGreen channel) life a lot harder.
I share quite a lot with that second wheel. Hopefully we'll both be able to stick around for awhile longer. Steve from Circle.
As you get older, the odd things become something to cherish. I have a 'Sold' sign from the first house the wife and I purchased back in the 80's. It's just a sticker on a sheet of corrugated plastic, however it's followed us all these years and represents the start of our journey through life. Wife thinks i'm soft, but I can't part with it. So the wheel has history to the owner. I totally get it.
Incredible craftsmanship. Can't beat experience to know how to make things work, young or old. You make a valuable contribution from the Big Sky Country.
Dave and Diane. That was fun. Dave I really enjoy the different uses of applied physics. The homemade apparatus to pressure fit the hub ring back in place using a hydraulic jack between to controlled, and adjustable stop point. Brilliant.
You make it look so easy Dave. Well Done.
So satisfying t to watch -- tools, talent, timing. Thank you. On seeing this, who would say, "Yeah, and I used to be a master wheel wright, too. " ? You guessed it -- master wheelw r iht Brandon.
Your explanation, along with the rehab, told a perfect story. Thanks, Dave.
Much respect to you Dave. Your geriatric care of those old timers was impressive. Thanks
It must be hugely appreciated what you are able to do for these old wheels and their owners, it is as though you are communicating with the wheels as you go around,each hammer blow giving you information as to the integrity and soundness of each piece , knowing just what is needed to get the job done. My Saturday mornings are all the better for having my weekly medicine from the Doctor.
Amen, brother - a true gift !!
@@johnking8679 It's not worth spending time on these old wheels. Just break them up and use as firewood. We chopped up a pile of old wheels last month, and burned the lot!
Nice to have rich customers
Always impressed with your jigs and handmade tools and their simplicity! Very efficient
Thanks for letting us hang around,a valuable lesson re visited appreciate the trip down memory lane🤗😎🤗😎
Two more great repairs. It would be nice if the old wheel could talk.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I hope that someone will take care of me when I'm old, as you take care of the old wheels! Greets from Germany Dave
Four o’clock start while turning a shaft I’m having a brew , I love watching mr engles did a bit of this work when I served my time as a blacksmith still make bits and pices but it’s mainly repair and remanufacture parts for agricultural use modern machinery,, one of the best KZhead channels reminds me of my old boss
That third song made me homesick. Lived there for quite a few years. steve
I just love all you home made jigs and fixtures you use in your shop. I have stole a lot of your ideas. Big thank for sharing and your time.👍
First off.. I enjoy watching your videos. It reminds me, strangely, of my buddy and me working on our race car in his garage. I have to say that I am a mechanical engineer (retired) but have always been fascinated by geology (bear with me here). My mother is 92 and has dementia. I live with her and care for her about half time. My sister covers the other half. We watch old western movies because the plots are simple enough for mom to kinda follow. I have always been fascinated by the western geology in the background. Wondering how and when it was formed. Since I’ve started watching your videos, I now notice the wheels of the wagons in the background. I wonder if you ever watch these movies and think, “that wheel is gonna need a rebuild soon.” 😊
I've watched the mud wagon series, I saw the Bob sled first. I found your site because I watch Working Horses With Jim. He recommended you. I live in north western PA. I've had riding horses 36 , years now. I've always been interested the western use of horse and equipment. It is a pleasure to watch the care you give to a wheel that holds memories. I have learned a lot in regards to piecing the puzzle back together based on the the bits and pieces. I'm waiting to see the end result of the mud wagon. Mt dad's been gone 18 years. He was born in 27. They were farming with percerons when he was growing up and then transitioning to tractors. He felt he was pushed out of the farm and started driving tractor trailers. He was a teamser on both ends. Thanks for sharing this tradition and craftsmanship.
I liked the way you were able to tighten up the old worn out wheel, while still preserving the look that it had.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz I report several of those posts every day. But new users need to be warned every now and then.
@@harpintn Yes, i even seem to remember him warning about those scammers, in a previous video, sadly they keep popping up, and YT does not seem to be very keen on doing anything about it.
Well I for one can relate to the later wheel. the Geriatric One. seeing how I"m pushing 80, I can see the value in not doing the work but being usfull for memory's and visual beauty and reference. Altho I can't make any claims to beauty.I was and am still functional and have value to give to society. Thanks for keeping us both around!. ECF
Good for you , old timer. I don't know ya , but I'm proud of ya anyway !
I think it's something beautiful about old wheels 😍😍😍🥰
Thanks for that repair session on both those wheels Dave. Still have a little sign of hope left. I've always been told I was rode hard and put away wet too many times and I know what they mean for sure. Stay safe and keep up the great videos and work that you do and keep throwing in some fun too, adds a little sweetness to the trip. Fred.
This reminds me of an old story about a hand saw. Man says, wow that is a very old saw. Yep, I have had it doe 50 years. I had to replace the lade once and the handle twice.
That looks like the perfect tornado shelter you have there. Excellent Video
Well there you go a piece of history saved would make a great chandelier. Hope that your clients do something cool with that. My best for you and yours. Jim
I wish there was someone like you around here in Oregon. That works on old wagon wheels.
You can get a repair quote from Mr Engels on his website. He gets work requests from many places.
Actually we are not taking any new work.
Wow! You never fail to be AWESOME! Every so often I wonder if a person could take a team of mules or a bunch of oxen and recreate the journey West from Independence Missouri.....
Shipmates and Cheyenne, raindrops and cryin', haunt the dreams, of an old, old man...
Always a pleasure to watch one of your videos.
Judging by the look of your thumbnail, I’m guessing you are about due to hit it again in another month or so. I speak from experiance😉Your the best!
The Californian Rivets keeping the tyre centered on the felloes explained my question from last week. Wish there was a competent craftsman who could strenghten geriatric spines with some well placed patches and shims to support the worst creaks and cracks in a worn out back; Stacked two loads of firewood last week and needed five days of recuperation afterwards, even my chiropractor daren't crack too much on me any more. Pottering around my little property doing small maintenance usually keeps the worst in check as lazy won't do. Seeing your work is an inspiration and i'm looking forward to the next vlog. Thank you for sharing!
HI Dave it is always fun to watch you .
Miss Diane, a very nice selection of music.
John Doe, thank you for your concern. I wanted to thank the wife of Mr. Engels. My understanding is she makes the magic behind the scenes.
@@secretsquirrel6308 That is true and i can see the scammer post was removed by someone, just wanted to warn you while it was there, not to fall for these typically Nigerian scammers
As a long time woodworker, as a hobby, I relish all of your videos, whether you’re describing keeping a huge amount of water from freezing, or these two wheels going to the doctor’s office. Keep these videos coming!
You sir have to be one of the best craftsmen in America no doubt and also a fantastic artist and also pretty funny. I'm in awe of your work it is truly an artform that is dieing in today's world . Thank you for taking time from your busy and hard to work to share with all of us that watch you.
Thank you once again Dave, As I have said many time i do not think I will get sick of watching your work.
Amazing work, I never paid much attention to how wagon wheels got made until now
Very interesting craft!!!
That ball-peen hammer sure does get a lot of use.
Amazing rehab true craftsmanship very entertaining keep on keeping on
One of your best videos yet.
I thought l heard it holler,WATCH OUT FOR THAT ROCK!!!!!
Old wheels never die, they just visit Montana.
I’ll wager that, like me, you get accused of overthinking things. I think overthinking is better than the alternative. I believe you are on the “right track” even if we never know what that track is. Enjoying the journey throughly.
After watching this it makes me wonder that the wagon trains going west had to have a blacksmith or wheelwright to fix their wheels. I’m sure they had spares but eventually had to fix the broken ones in case they needed one. A small but very important job.
I believe that a specialist is the correct way to address the problems you have shown us. Thanks for sharing the diagnosis and the cure. The patients seem to be all the better for your attention.
Like it. Even the geriatric decretive wheel received a respectable amount of service; and despite it's appearance; would still be able to support a fair load.
Like the rhythm/sound of the speedy hammers!!!!
Very enjoyable seeing these old wheels come to life again
Geriatrics treatment... A good douse of cold water. I like it.
I enjoy your videos. They give me an idea of what my distant ancestors did for a living.
When my great-great-grandfather immigrated to America he was a harness maker he ended up owning half of a bank in Nebraska... Talk about the American dream.
Watching this in bed, after about 5-10 minutes, Deb says watching your wagon man again? I asked how she knew? She said, the way you were nodding your head so much. Apparently when I watch the wagon man, my head bobs up and down a lot. I eventually figured it out, it’s when my head is nodding up and down in awe! But I only do it when watching Dave !!
Bonjour, vous faites vraiment un travail magnifique, je crois que en France, il n'y a plus d'artisans pour soigner nos vieilles roues comme vous le faites, c'est bien dommage. Merci de votre partage et continuez ainsi.
Great to be able to see the skills you have
Wonderful refurbishment
What a pleasure to watch you at your craft! 🤠🏜️🌵🇺🇲
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I really enjoy them.
Very instructive !🙏🧡💚 I have a bulgarian four wheels my neighbor is giving me, one wheel seem s in geriatric way, so you help me not to try too much work to renew but more to just stabilize the parts. An other thing, I look for long your videos, but I never did it. I like wood working, and I observe your material and tools, wond me précise tips that I will prepare for doing this job. Some tools, a turning support,
Just a beautiful job on this repair thanks for the show.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz I don't reply to any thing if I think it can be a scam.
@@errolpoxleitner7901 Seems John doe replies to every one he sees.
Love your doctor description
very nice, I appreciate the care to fix the old wheel but to honor the original builder by preserving his work. thank you
DAVE GREAT JOB, TELL ALL HELLO & GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOU WHEN...
Once again thanks for the video.
I appreciate the tender treatment you gave the tired wheel. It appears to have weathered many years and can still be a better storyteller.than ever.
Never ignore your great grandpa.
Truly a master craftsman..
Great show ! Very good editing ......
Ain't nothing wrong with "tried & true" 👍
If I was even twenty years younger I would come and camp out and pay you to teach even a little of what you know.
I do not do telegram ever.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Thanks
Nice job on the wheels! Doctor.s should be as good as you are! Both look great!
I once saw an old hub of a wagon wheel .Just the wood was left ,but it "spoke "volumns of coming across the wilderness on maybe the Oregon Trail or even the old Santa Fe Trail.Hauling precious cargo of a family risking it all.Maybe avoiding bandits or hostile Indians .How many river crossings it took ?How many babies were born or died in its shelter?How many grandmothers and grandfathers took their last breath on that arduous journey?All from just looking at the relic of wagon wheels hub.Thanks for your videos Dave.
The tools you have for making the centred round tenons on the spokes are fantastic.
You are a master of your craft. I do so enjoy your videos.
If you are a lucky person... you will get to be that geriatric wheel someday...and have someone like Dave give you a bit of TLC to keep you going for awhile longer...even if it is just to be able to share the memories you've picked up along the way.... Thanks for another great video.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Thanks for the warning. I was already aware of these types of scams. They are doing this on most of the channels I watch. I report them as porn!
So, so interesting to watch your restorations. A true wheelwright in action !! Hopefully, someone in your family will continue this truly remarkable craft !!
Always look forward to your video clips !! Have a remarkable day, my friend !!
Hi Dave and Diane ☺, and I thought the first wheel was the geriatric one, lol, the second wheel got the attention it deserved, and will hang around a good while longer now thanks to your help. Thanks for another interesting video mate, stay safe, best wishe's to both of you, Stuart and Megan UK.
Your allegory of ageing is a timely reminder of the value of things and people that society at large might see no value in. Advancing years and fading memories threaten to deprive us of the opportunities to capture the experiences of those who are walking ahead of us - perhaps if we knew more of their stories then our own would be the richer.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Thanks, JD. Dave did warn us about this scam in an earlier video. Several other people have issued this warning on their sites too.
I really enjoyed this one.
This wheel is 66 on 29th October, and after years of service, hard work, heavy loads and building, single-handedly, two homes from the inside out…lol… is firmly in the getting ‘geriatric’ list… for my birthday, I’m hoping someone will be able to give a whole nights blissful sleep, but I’ll settle for four or five hours…good job I like watching the Dawn eh…!!!
Really cool to watch. Thanks
Loved the video! i also enjoyed watching you use vise grips. when i started smithing i didnt have much tooling and vise grips were my only tongs for the longest time.
I liked the second wheel. Absolutely worth saving.
I just recently found your channel. And OMG! Your skill level is amazing sir.👍🏻
Buenas noches, disfruto mucho ver su trabajo, sus manos expertas y talentosas. Al verlo me dan muchas ganas de aprender con usted.
Thank you,,,,,,,good day 👀👍❤️😎
true master at his craft, thanks for sharing , pure pleasure to watch the seeming ease too which you repair and make wheels,
Sir I've got a question, with that good old "geriatric" wheel, in order to keep it as a memento at a minimum, would it wouldn't it be good to soak it down with his wood oils? Was it traditional to oil wheels and wagon parts with tung or linseed oils? Greatly enjoy your channel, thanks man!
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Thanks man you are correct, I'm tracking. I appreciate your heads up though, good of you! Cheers friend
Really liked the treatment of the “geriatric” wheel. It’s a question I’ve come across myself and you’ve given me a much needed sense of what can be done. Thanks as always
Great job keep up the good work love your videos thank you