Loose bolts found on door plugs of grounded Boeing 737 Max 9 jets
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Both Alaska Airlines and United have canceled hundreds of flights after a midair blowout. Now, loose bolts have been found on Boeing 737 Max 9 jets. FULL STORY: abc7chicago.com/alaska-airlin...
What's even more concerning is if that child was not buckled in his seat, he would've been completely sucked out of the plane. His shirt already flew off his body. I think most of us would not fly if we knew the issues that are being ignored and played down as no big immediate concern.
Loose bolts were found? No kidding. Don't need an engineering degree to crack this case.
Yeah, who knew??
You are correct but 20 of them makes cents
You say that like it's obvious that it would be loose bolts. They could have been broken bolts instead of loose. But everyone thinks they are an expert.
I have one. yep, it's the bad bolts. bad bolts. bad. bad.
I'd say that you have no idea what you're talking about.
It shouldn't be possible for those bolts to loosen. They have castellated nuts, designed to be locked by pins through drilled bolts. They could only come loose if the pins weren't installed, were installed improperly, or if the pins or the bolts physically broke.
They are. All of that. That's kind of why this is a big deal. Clear QA defect.
Sounds legit! Do you know why the drive through ATM’s have instructions in braille?
Odds are the cotter pins either weren't used or a very lame attempt at bending the pins ends back were made. These types of 'castle nuts' and cotter pins are used in the automotive industry as well. I have seen plenty of mechanics do a lazy bend on those cotter pins when working on the steering links of vehicles. It wouldn't take much to get those pins to pop out over time and find yourself in a vehicle going out of control because your steering is out of control. Imagine that at highway speeds.
But the bolts are really just stops to keep the door pins trapped. They really dont need to be 'tight', but the nut needs to never back off and that is what the cotter is supposed to do.
Are you serious? Castellated nuts with pins? They couldn't possibly loosen with that kind of hardware without intentional negligence
Imagine having that seat.
since almost all planes are now connected continuusly to the internet it seems rediculous that flight data, voice and video is not continuously streamed from the plane to a server on the ground....The onborad recorders should only be backup.
Money- Upfitting thousands of aircraft will be very costly, and that means flights get more expensive. There is a balance
So instead of being able to hear just what they need to they would have to spend hours and hours going over the back log? Yeah no.
I smell a bunch of lawsuits coming. Just watch.
Why?
@@jillfeatherman5523 Clearly someone was at fault and it's most likely Boeing.
@@VanillaMacaron551 Engineers and quality control 😬
@@VanillaMacaron551 clearly it was sabotage. Just wait.
Loose bolts! New plane. The most scrutinised plane ever. How many bolts need to be loose before it detaches? Who tightened the bolts or who didn’t? Quality control new and maintenance regime? The plane’s instruments recorded a depressurisation faults days before, so who was supposed to fix the faults? 2 hours recording then over-write; what a joke! Procedures, the list goes on.
If reports are accurate, the CRAZIEST thing around this whole cluster-f is this plane threw Failed Pressurization Alarms on 3 separate occasions! THREE previous flights! Obviously the airline tech crews never chased dnow the source of the failure, so the bolts became progressively looser as the flight hours accumulated. Bottom-line, if the airline's engineering crew couldn't chase down such a SERIOUS problem like depressurization alarms (which they obv didn't), then the aircraft should've been shipped back to Boeing for specialized troubleshooting and a replacement airframe should have been supplied to the airline at Boeing's expense! IMO, this this criminal negligence. If these guys were in the medical field, you'd be suing everyone from the doctors, to the landlords, to the janitorial staff for hundreds of millions.
Not only that, but in December the MAX 8 had loose bolts found in the tail rudder that were part of a critical system and had to be inspected. Check Google and you will find tons of references about it.
I’m going to blame the Bidens until I hear differently. I hear the Bidens know a guy from Alabama that’s a professional bolt inspector that they FORCED Boeing to hire. Word has it it’s being funded by Bill Gates to control all human movements. 2024 is going to be cray cray!
Agree 100% (77 years old previous air craft mechanic)
@@EricS-uf9mv "...this this criminal negligence..." Nah. I don't think so.
Geeeeezus! My $30 V Starcam security camera from Ali Express was installed on December 26th and stores video and audio and STILL has 80% of its space available for recording before it overwrites. Somebody should be embarrassed.
It’s because the pilots union fought to not have more recorded than necessary to Determine the cause of a major incident. Not a physical limitation
@@chrissmith7669 oh wow thats kind of weird why would longer recording, regarding safety, be a problem with the union?
@@chrissmith7669- Thanks for the heads-up! Wow! I wonder what have they got to hide?? Sadly here is one case where there was less recorded than necessary. By the way, that camera I purchased was $24 and the 128GB memory card was just another $4.
@@dudeinthesea Long long ago in the time before constant surveillance of everyone everywhere there was something called personal privacy and a right that you couldn’t be forced to incriminate yourself. Back then when technology wasn’t mature enough to only record a single flight the pilot‘s union argued that any information recorded prior to the flight segment where an event occurred could be used against the pilots even if it had nothing to do with the incident. Their right to not be overly monitored in the execution of their duties was considered important. With todays technology it should be amended to say that the entire flight with all segments be recorded in order to look for things that weren’t enough to trigger warnings or a grip being written. We live in a very different world today when it comes to the expectation of privacy and to not be observed. big brother is here and everyone welcomed him with open arms.
@@thomask4836 it’s not that they have things to hide but don’t want to be second guessed or have their conversations analyzed if it isn’t germane to the incident. There have been several incidents lately where it would have helped investigators to have a longer recording to look for sounds or warnings that may have indicated a problem.
I can't believe no one was sitting in those window seats.
There were people in those seats
@@edwardjones856 The NTSB has confirmed that the two seats immediately adjacent the blown out panel were empty.
I'm not surprise if someone heard something there and didn't like to be there.
RIP boeing for absolutely demolishing their reputation for the "Max" generations. First the max 8 and now the max 9 aswell.
Third time's the charm right? Max 10 anyone?
MAX 8 and MAX 9 are just shorter and longer versions of the same design (both have MCAS, etc). Just to clarify
Max 10 : Hold my beer.
Someone left the lock pins out when the interior was loaded through the opening.
If so, the design ought not be dependent on such a possible oversight. I thought the inside cabin pressure ought to keep the door in place, thus overcoming this type of human error.
Gee there are cameras everywhere in every airport and in every airplane but all the sudden we're not gonna see any video are we how convenient for you know who who who
The door sets into plane fuselage hardware and is held in with spring pressure. Without the safety bolts, it would take an inch of vertical movement to cause it to potentially disengage from the fuselage. If it rattled out of place, it would seem to require an absence of all four safety bolts.
@@bruceharkness4497I imagine the last bolt vibrated out seconds before the door popped off
Nord Lock washers do prevent vibration loosening of fasteners for example. But you still have to apply the appropriate torque. So quality control problems may be a problem. There is a Al Jazeera documentary over quality problems at the 787 dreamliner production still available on KZhead.
Good! Boeing needs to be held accountable!
Boeing has built and delivered over11,000 737's, and now all these problems are coming up? Why weren't you complaining 40 years ago? Oh, yeah, nothing was going wrong back then.
@@itjustlookslikethisalways the ones with the Cessna profile pics that get so defensive about Boeing these days. We’re not talking about 40 years ago. We’re talking about right now. Boeing has fallen from glory the moment it decided to cancel the 757 program. Remember when the company was run by engineers and not finance businessmen? I miss the sight of the 757, truly the last solid high quality product to come out of the assembly line.
@@itjustlookslikethisthis isn’t the same 737 it was 40 years ago. Use your brain if you have one.
Loose bolts... God knows if there are more loose bolts on Boeings plane.
The door plug may need additional anchor points(mid door). Fasteners may need to be upgraded(higher) or changed(studs) for the hinges and tracks. Tracking and tracing of the plant (date, time, line) could reveal who is responsible for install.
Congratulation to the Boeing management! They managed to destroy one of the most successful brands ever. Only profit matters!
Guys!!!, the nuts are supposed to be loose. The bolts act as a 'locking pin' to prevent the door assembly from moving up. The castle nuts keep the bolts from coming out, but the castle nuts must be aligned with the hole drilled in the bolt for the cotter pin to go through the slots in the castle nut. Why is no one talking about this!!?? With the jet the door plug came off of the bolts where missing...They where never installed!
It’s the only thing that can let this happen without structural failure
the more I think about this the more I get scared!😵💫😳
Thank you for flying with Alaska Air. We hope you had a pleasant flight. 😆🇬🇧.
16k. Perfect exit altitude for a skydive. If I had my rig as a carry on I would have been out of there on principle.
Two things really annoy me about this. One, loose bolts? Really? And number two, pretty convenient for the flight recorder to be recorded over after something like this happens.
Travellers' life is at the edge of a loosen bolt...seriously!
The cockpit has a 2 hour limit?? With shitty quality audio? It takes a $5 SD card to expand that to dozens of hours. I'm confused.
Too plane airport/airplane related issues. Just drive
Wow amazing how that flight attendant jumped into action. I’ve started to appreciate how much safety is a key component of there role
Are you kidding? Counting heads with a hole in the plane must be the stupidest thing to do!!!! So what if a head is missing, that doesn’t help anything and it’s her head that can fly out! Wait till its landed. Jesus christ.
It's what she was trained to do.
@@MrShobar well, she shouldn’t be. She could have been sucked out too! How does knowing if someone is missing help anything at that time? They can count when they land.
The question not being asked, has there been any issues founded with Boeing 737 Max aircraft, where there is an actually emergency exit doorway opening hatch installed in this same rear fuselage position, Yes or No? That is compared to the Boeing 737 Max aircraft, which have instead only one of these emergency exit doorway non-opening Plug Sections installed in this rear fuselage position. If the issue is these emergency exit doorway non-opening Plug Sections and maybe with their four locking bolts and nuts too. Is this then either a Boeing assembly issues, or an Airlines maintenance and serving issue? Or is it a manufacturing issue, caused by whoever builds and supplies Boeing these emergency exit doorway non-opening Plug Sections? Or is it a manufacturing issue, caused by whoever builds and supplies Boeing these four locking bolts and nuts, to secure and hold in place these emergency exit doorway non-opening Plug Sections? If the issue is these emergency exit doorway non-opening Plug Sections, or their locking bolts and nuts, then the simple answer could be just install real emergency exit doorway opening hatches, problem solved?
Typical Boeing cost-saving, no quality control manufacture. As for Alaska Airlines, they may have screwed up big time by not thoroughly inspecting the airplane for the cause of the reported pressurization faults. Next, everybody involved screwed up on the CVR--the airplane was on the ground thirty minutes after the incident, and everybody, mechanics, pilots, maintenance controllers, dispatch, should know that the first thing you do after an incident airplane reaches the gate is to pull the CVR circuit breaker to prevent overwriting of critical data. Absolutely inexcusable that they failed to do that. I believe that Alaska may need a new VP of Maintenance and Engineering, or whatever the title may be.
These plug doors wouldn’t have been included while checking for the cause of the faults. The actual doors, ventilation controls, emergency exits would be checked but it would have been expected these plugs were installed properly at the factory. If it continued having pressurization faults they’d have pulled it from service and called Boeing for further guidance.
What about the 12 bolts missing from the 12 plug fittings around the perimeter of the door plug and airframe? Nobody mentions these.
There are no bolts in the stop pads.
Imagine just sitting there with a big ass hole in the fuselage next to you 😮 These Max variants have really been a curse for Boeing
If that. Is the case loose bolts? Then everybolt. And the whole plane has to be checked not only on the doors but holding on the The wings on the body everything. The jet engines. Here's a vibration on the plane that will unscrew bolts. That's why they have Lock tight.
Aircraft (AN) bolts should have a castle nut, and the bolt is cross drilled, and safety wire is run over the bolt and through the nut, to insure that it can't rotate, and even if it loosens, it can't come off. That is the standard that should be done anyway for any critical bolt.
Just remember, DB Cooper was never found. Just saying
I’m guessing it’s the cotter pins - installed incorrectly, or maybe they were the wrong size, or maybe not installed at all!
Even without the cotter pins, I don’t think the castle nuts would unscrew themselves in two months. Then the bolts would have to come out even though there would be a shear force on them from the springs. Most likely, the whole step of securing the door in place with those bolts was overlooked.
There was a pressurisation fault on three previous flights and they still flew the aircraft??
Not uncommon
@@chrissmith7669 and you know this how? Lion air was having control problems with its max, but they kept it in service. Who's fault was that?
@@itjustlookslikethisAn intermittent pressurization warning really doesn't make you think there's a door issue though. A pressurization system problem would usually be a sensor problem. Every plane flies with equipment inoperative, and doing otherwise would mean planes would barely fly at all.
so how much money flow from Boeing to the inspectors hands so they ticks everything passed ?
There's no need for that. Manufacturers lobbied for and received the right to self certify their aircraft. They used the same logic as wall street, "we know the business best of all, so who better to regulate us, than ourselves?" In a very short time a couple of years that led to 737 Max-8 fiasco. There's no need for them to influence inspectors one by one day in day out, when they can just influence congress and the administration just one time.
Wait, black box data is usually 30 minutes. How long did it take for them to turn around and come back?
2 hours and the pilots didn’t shut off the recorders after landing
@@chrissmith7669 Are you saying the black box time is 2 hours or the time return was 2 hours? I just heard on another outlet the return time was 20 minutes.
@@kaizersolze black box recording time limited to 2 hours. I heard they were 20 minutes out when it happened so maybe 30 to 45 minutes to turn around and get back to land. Another 15 to 30 minutes to actually land and get off the runway. 2 hours isn’t that long when They want to hear what happened from The beginning of the incident.
@@chrissmith7669i assume that longer flights have black boxes with longer recording times? But it should have been the first thing they check in this situation. Sounds careless to me that it took them so long to realize it was still running so it recorded over itself. And it seems like a strange thing to ever automatically do. A longer flight should just have a longer black box.
People don’t know that a lot of these airlines have the major maintenance performed in El Salvador & Guatemala
Regardless if it was performed here will be done by those same type individuals here under their newfound Work visas
It's 2 months old so unlikely to have anything major done in that time
No that was last week! The North Koreans outbid Haiti so they got the contract.
I guess that's why these airlines have aircraft falling from the sky at far greater rates than when America was gr...oh wait
Wow there are a lot of racist people on here! Just because they may have maintenance done in cheaper labour countries they are labelled poor quality? I bet they are more qualified than all the keyboard engineers that liked that racist comment!
Isn't that just dandy that the cockpit voice recorder over wrote the record. So nobody knows ... I thought that Calhoun when he took over the reigns after the MAX disaster vowed to address the cultyral issues and transform it back into the engineering icon, it once was. Obviously he is failing in that, because if brand new planes are not end checked for loose screws, then Boeing is still cutting corners! Will Boeing finally get rid of Calhoun? After all he was Chairman at Boeing when the company transformed from an engineering company delivering safety through quality into a blood sucking investment vehicle delivering profits at the expense of safety.
The guys who installed this door. Help build that titanic sub.
Would be better if they would check every single fastener on every one of those 737s.
If the opening is a permanently installed plug why wasn’t it permanently installed with structural adhesive? Isn’t the 737 Max a composite fuselage?
No.
No. This fuselage design has roots to the original 737 from the late 60s.
It’s the same aluminum fuselage as every other 737 just stretched. Hence the other problems. The doors could be activated with another cabin configuration.
Outrageous that the failed door plug would be caused by MISSING bolts. However, the accusations of "loose" bolts sounds suspiciously political. All the detailed info shows that the bolts do not need to be torqued because they are merely like a padlock, which can be "loose" as long as it stops movement of a latch. These bolts cannot continue to loosen because they have castellated nuts with a pin that prevents the nut from turning.
Yeah, check on the bolts and plugs. Until another issue comes up again.
Two hour cockpit recorder!!! In this day of digital technology they can have hours and hours of recording stored on chips. And they also can have more than one in an aircraft.
Can’t record longer due to an Old fight with the pilots union. It’s not a physical limitation but a liability issue. Should be changed to record the entire flight and maybe the previous one but that would be a battle either way the pilots union
@@chrissmith7669 You think the pilots would welcome a full recording. Seems like more chance of someone calling out pilot error and a longer recording could prove it not so.
Boeing can tighten the bolts with a software update
They just need to redefine what "tighten" means... :)
How convient the recorder just happen to be "overwritten"...
I know right. Theres just no way Im ever flying a Boeing again.
I'm guessing the pilot said something like, "Oh no the door blew off." I guess we'll never know now. Unless they ask the pilot.
@0:56 they say that there was nothing on the cockpit voice recorder because it was overwritten after two hours. Why is that represented as an important problem? Why don't they just ask the pilots what they said if it mattered? My guess would be "Oh Shit.....depressurization". "Put on the oxygen mask and run the rapid depressurization checklist". What else does anyone expect?
If you have ever been in an emergent situation (not saying you haven't), people often times do not have clear recollection of the entirety of the event. Often times, a persons perception also can miss things. In the event something significant happened, or something was said or ignored, it may not have registered with the pilots at the time, but be found to be pertinent to the investigation. They have ATC recordings, but not any internal plane communications.
To be honest in this case it's probably not very important to have the CVR, the NTSB is trying to push (rightfully so) to extend the recording duration to the European standard of 25 hours.
Gonna postulate about the recorder that after the plane landed they left the cockpit systems running and unintentionally left the recorder running and Bob's your Uncle.
What.. no flight data recorder?? What? I mean this is crazy
"better a door plug, than a butt plug" - boeing.
i too have a gaping hole, after the butt plug is removed.
What are the chances those seats were empty
BUT THE PLANE IS SO NEW????
There should be inspections at every phase of builds, maybe someone doesnt know how to do the job properly.
Coming from Portland can be a clue here
Boeing used to make pretty safe planes.
11,000 737s built over 50 years, with no problems. so yes, they make safe planes.
@@itjustlookslikethis😂 what are you, social media damage control?
@@itjustlookslikethisThere was a serious problem with early 737s. The NG and MAX series are safer designs, with the exception of those with MCAS version 1.0. The current problem is not a design problem, in my opinion.
Did someone else notice the mistake at 1:30
Disgruntled employee left bolts loose.
At 2 hours it rerecords. It has not been 2 hours in the air?
It is running on the ground until the plane is shut down or the circuit breaker pulled.
@@GH-oi2jf fair enough, thank you for explaining
This sounds like a bad design to me. The whole door can slip off if anything is amiss with the two bolts at the top. The door can simply slip upward off the hinges at the bottom and slip off the twelve other points on the side of the frame where it's braced. Especially the door plug that's not even meant to open and close should have been securely fastened at more than two points
I heard that even with just 1 bolt in place, the door can't slip up/down and out.
There were supposed to be 4 bolts. 1 at each pin. Only 1 needs to be in place to stop the door from moving up its track. This door does have a spring assist to help lift the door up to make it easier to open. That could be considered a weak point in engineering as it would of helped lift the door off its track.
after11,000 deliveries it's a bad design? I don't think so.
@@wally7856 Where were the two bolts not at the top located?
That’s wrong. Each of the four bolts with the castle nuts prevents the door from moving upward off the stop pads.
“Overwritten” 🧐🤔🙄
2 h rewriting data on flight recorder that's convenient. Blocked door space will become a very popular seat😂
2 hours is a joke, supposed to pull the circuit breaker after landing after a reportable event.
Boeing should bolt their door plugs on better.
Everyone is calling it a "so-called door plug" in unison. Just like everything else they do--go with the narrative. This so-called door plug covers an optional safety exit and service port.
It’s a conspiracy so Joe Biden can rule the world!
Ummm... Boeing calls it a Door plug.
Quick someone book the Kardashians on the next 737 Max
Loose bolts? There should be a specific torque spec. I just dont believe this could happen.
These bolts don't need to be tight. They are just used as pins to prevent the door from sliding up and out of its track. The track and stoppers keep the door in place. If this door came off, all 4 bolts had to be missing as even 1 loose one would prevent the door from sliding up.
@@wally7856 this is a very strange occurrence
Boeing please stop selling this trash. What if a kids got sucked out and fell 16,000 feet.
It would be a good time for treasure hunters to search that area in Portland for nuts, bolts and cotter pins, if any.
Mostly private property.
When Boeing doesn’t even do the inspections by an ia before moving down the line no wonder
No manufacturer uses IA or even all A&P to build planes. It’s what makes rework such a pain once it’s been signed off. On the ramp it is an A&P who gets called to replace things like filters after until acceptance flights.
This 737 MAX series is starting to look like the toys we group up with in the 1970’s…..Boeing 737-MAX….YOU GET TO PUT IT TOGETHER, or……SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.
This whole incident stinks to high heaven.
This is just the beginning of the results of un skilled labor all the companies love to use.
FAA now recommends carrying a Gorilla with a roll of Gorilla Tape.
What do they mean by “loose bolts”? The bolts on those doors are not really functioning more as locking pins. So long as the cotter pin is in place in the crown nut, it doesn’t matter how tight the nut is tightened down.
That's the way I see it too.
Different bolts. The loose bolts found by the inspections are the ones that hold the sliders to the door plug. If you look at the incident pictures, you’ll notice that one slider is still on the aircraft and the other is missing.
Is this the same 1 that's giving free seats to the larger people? Gotta make that money back somehow 🤷♂️
Can I get a discount for flying on those new planes? Lol
Not riding on BOOING planes for good
Is that poor maintenance by the airlines?
Nothing is perfect we don't live in a utopia they have thousands of flights a day this is a once in 1 million incident but they're gonna act as a bitch to your back door because the media will terrorize you until you die
it was only built 2 months ago by Boeing
It missed its monthly complete overhaul. It had less than 14,000 miles on it! The damn thing is 2 months old! I swear!
@@guybeingaguy 'complete overhauls' that rip the aircraft to the bolts are not done monthly.
@@outermarker5801 and this avoidable tragedy is the result of that! The entire industry needs to be shut down and some SERIOUS new maintenance and regulations need to be put in place. The whole industry is corrupt!
(Yicai Global) Nov. 27 -- Aviation giant Boeing has begun work on the second expansion of a Chinese parts factory in a move that will double the current production space at the facility. Boeing Tianjin Composites will add 20,000 square meters to the facility in northern China, taking its total working area to 83,900 square meters, Boeing China said online yesterday. It did not disclose how much the extension would cost, but expects to complete the work in 2021. The expansion is the plant's second to date and includes new work areas and amenities, including upgraded offices and conferences rooms, a new employee canteen, underground parking, a fitness center and a baby-care room. Boeing and state-owned Aviation Industry Corp. of China founded Tianjin Boeing in 2001. It makes around 13,000 composite parts and components for civilian Boeing aircraft every month and has delivered nearly 1.5 million parts, used in planes the world over, since its formation.
DEI quality work… 😂
Why would there be a “door plug” in the first place? It should either be a door or fuselage. To put a “door plug “ in seems absolutely stupid. An accident waiting to happen.
Because airlines often don't want a door but want to be able to eventually resell the aircraft to another operator that might want a door. Door plugs are very normal, and bolting a plug to a door frame shouldn't be that difficult (it wasn't until this incident). If you can't trust the manufacturer to correctly install a door plug, then you really can't trust them doing anything.
The MAX 9 can be configured with various arrangements and number of seats. Some configurations require more emergency exits than others. The airframe is exactly the same for all configurations, because it is more efficient to have just one design for that size fuselage. If it is configured in a way that does not require the emergency exits in that position, then they are pkugged. My pickup has a similar option. It came without fog lamps, but there were two places for them, filled by plugs. I wanted fog lamps, so I bought the option and had them installed. It wouldn’t make sense to have to trade in my truck to get one made with fog lamps.
@@GH-oi2jf Yes, and in fact Boeing was initially planning to make the door a minor model rather than an option. Airline customers preferred the slight weight increase over the potential loss in resell value by splitting 737-900 into two models.
@@GH-oi2jfdumb analogy. If something happens to your pickup trucks’ fog lamp plugs, people aren’t at risk of dying.
Why haven't they fixed the so called black box system.
Because white Zionist are in control of that black box at the Bozeman
It’s a vast right wing conspiracy run by the Clintons for world domination and controlling prices on Snickers bars!
@@guybeingaguy😂😂😂😂
Shorted BA at open today, it paid good 😅
Glad it’s a quick and easy fix. Hopefully they can get flying again by end of week.
Bolt loose problems plane engineer not 100 percent knowledge bolt tait after create hole on bolt close of nut tait location hole insert steelness strong pin lock pin when door loose with vibrations create with plane no problems create advanced engineer not knowledge in mind plane all nut bolt after tait install sensor pin when bolt nut loose plane dashboard meter notification icon and bell speaking voice same to buggati chiron tyer air pressure telling on dashboard
Looks like another Corporation Too Big to Fail, is FAILING😂😂😂
Why are people blaming Boeing? Most all accidents are either pilot or mechanic errors...I've been an aircraft mechanic/inspector/Pilot for over 30 years and have seen some things.
No data because it (CRV) overwrites after 2 hours? I can record 150 hrs of movies on a jump drive stick and you design and operate planes with CRV’s with 1970’s cassette tape as recording tech you idiots? Come.... on..... seriously?
Just might be time to put the Bowing 737 MAX into the scrap yard hay.
Note that instead of designing a new plane from the ground up Boeing decided it was cheaper to upgrade the 737 beyond reason... And since they have lost planes, paid huge lawsuits and fines around the world and lost business to Airbus I wonder if they saved any money longterm or it's all been lost through having cheaped out. Boeing used to be run/operated/managed by engineers and was a preeminent manufacturer_* then Corporate America wormed their way in and started 'streamlining' everything and going for maximum profit and economy and turned the fine aircraft company into a toilet.
Oh, but, but, how do explain that after 11,000 airframes, these problems are now coming up? 737 has been around for over 50 years.
@@itjustlookslikethisI think the safety culture of Boeing has just declined dramatically.
Those planes are such junk lol
Their incompetence has no bounds.
Everybody in the world knows all the info rehashed in this report. We've all heard it over and over, ad nauseam. Now, what about "loose bolts" found by United?
It's not a "so called door plug". It's a door plug.... WTF? There is a second seating configuration that allows for more passengers. If this is used the door plug is replaced with an emergency exit door. Media are pathetic
So it took more than two hours to turn around from 10 minutes out? I guess after landing they just let it run.....? Sound like a government agency if you ask me.
Pilot's fault. It's not like the FAA has someone waiting at every airport to inspect an aircraft after an accident.
Checks need to be made before landing, making sure the plane is stable, and also fuel dump, you can’t land with the same weight as you took off either, not everything is a compiracy if you use your brain a little.
@@DoniStunts It wasn't carrying enough fuel to need to dump any, it just turned right back around and landed.
@@DoniStunts That completely depends on the model of aircraft and how much fuel they have loaded, you clown. How ironic you're telling everyone else to use your brain but you have zero knowledge on flight operations.
@@DoniStuntssmaller aircraft like the 737 aren't equipped to dump fuel, if they need to reduce their landing weight, they have to fly it off... the controller in this case actually asked them if they needed to do that....
In that picture you see 20 men and women standing around each earning a salary of $100,000 per year all of them is some up that yes it was loose bolts my statement reflects why that door fell off
Elon said the same thing about Twitter engineers and you see how that turned out.
Boeing is building Junk Max.
Intentional? Is someone trying to sabotage the manufacturer with the intent to create another catastrophic event, knowing it would take years to investigate. At this point their plan failed, which may mean resorting to other measures. The past fatal crashes may have involved, computer problems, parts falling off and loose bolts. Again I ask, sabotage to destroy a company or a coincidence? Just my theory...
Yes by the same you know who who's at the zeppelin disaster
Word is George Santos just got hired by Boeing as a bolt engineer. The Clintons are back door hush hush super top secret double agents funding it for controlling all human movements. The media won’t cover it! It’s all corrupt! Everything is broken! America is a wreck! We need Trump more than ever!
It's a possibility. Who benefits if the 737 is dead? I know China is producing a similar size plane and if Boeing 737 is discontinued, the airlines may start to consider the Chinese made one?
@@CoralSea right, instead of looking at one's self, blame foreigners... The root cause is the relaxation of regulation that manufacturers lobbied congress for... the root cause of that is good old corr-uption American style...
@@PRH123 No amount of regulation can catch an intentional sabotage. But I said it's one of the possibilities, not a definitive one.
Just Boeing- 🤡