Best camera for your pocket? Ricoh GR III, Sony RX100 VII, LUMIX LX100 II, Canon G5X II
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In this video I compare four of the top compact / pocketable cameras on the market, the Ricoh GR III, the Sony RX100 VII, the LUMIX LX100 II, and the Canon G5X II. I specifically am looking at them from the perspective of the family documentary photographer.
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Seeing how the Ricoh fits in jeans Pocket was once of the most useful things Ive seen in several video on this topic. So simple, so basic, so useful. I dont understand why others didnt show that before. Thanks
Thanks for the graphic on the lens list comparison. I hate videos from other KZhead stars that verbally dump specs and manual info. You did such a great job on this video comparing the cameras without drowning us with specs.
I second this. I would only add as a suggestion to keep the order of the cameras in the list the same.
Now THIS is how you do a comparison. Side by side, one feature at a time!!! Excellent video and extremely helpful. Thanks!
I agree !
Andrew, thanks for doing this roundup! I actually just bought a GR III myself so was curious to get your take. I basically bought the GR III for the same reason, family documentary style shooting. It was between this and the Fujifilm X100 series. I still have my interchangeable lens system with my Nikon Z 6, but as a dad with two kids... nothing beats having a pocketable camera that can quickly capture the moment!
I have an LX100 and it has an automatic lens cover that opens as you turn it on. It's a great little camera, mostly because everything is there without diving into menus.
Love your videos Andrew. Thanks for not using obnoxious music on them.
I have the Leica-branded version of the first LX-100. Although I primarily reach for my X-Pro2, I still love the Panny/Leica, despite the lower resolution and mushiness when sometimes zooming while fully open. Some of my best shots have been taken with it.
Great comparison of the 4 cameras. I have the Ricoh GR iii and found that the screen brightness can be adjusted quite a bit for outdoor shooting. And I thought I would miss the lack of OVF, but I actually don't because the touch screen LCD is so responsive when set it up for touch focus. I agree with you 100 percent that you should pick what works for your style of shooting. Thanks
Fantastic comparison. Really appreciate the information and presentation!
The balck & white photos from all four cameras look stunning! Very artistic looking.
This was a good round up and presented as fairly as possible given the circumstances. Very helpful for me thinking about a pocketable camera. I think for me where the size and image quality matters most, the GR series would be my best bet, but just wish it was cheaper to reflect some of the older tech in it. I don't mind no evf in the least as small compact camera evfs feel weird to me, but better AF would be helpful along with better video. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to make this and give your useful thoughts!
Great video. I agree upon your final selections and how you ranked them.
Excellent comparison! Very thorough and clear.
That was an excellent review and comparison Andrew - thank you. If the criteria is truly “pocketable” rather than having a point-and-shoot device on the kitchen cabinet ready to grab at a moments notice, then weight should be a key comparison, and in that regard, I think the Ricoh GR3 would win hands down. In the same way, if the comparison is pocketable i.e. a take everywhere camera with you, then again, the Ricoh wins it for me, although I’ve never picked up the camera let alone own one, but I am currently in the market for deciding which to get and this review was very helpful thank you
Best compact cameras for me: -Ultra pocket friendly: Canon G9x II, Sony RX100 mk I -APSC sensor: Nikon A, Canon G1X mk III -Crazy autofocus: latests Sony RX100 and ZV1 (it is more a video camera) -The bokeh thing: Canon G1x mk II, Panasonic LX100 and LX100 mk II, Canon G5X mk II
Nice review. Love the shots at the end.
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I really appreciated this comparison. I have the Sony RX100vii. I see some others already corrected you about the ability to do touch and drag for focusing and on the fact that opening the EVF does power on the camera. Another strength of the Sony is that its 20 frames/second are blackout free.
This is the review that I was looking for 👏🏼👌👏🏼
The photo of your son with the 'Impossible Decisions' card is so great!
Super video, great info, exactly what I needed to know! Thanks very much
Thanks a lot for this review. I wasn’t really sure if I should go with a Sony or a Panasonic. Now I know I’ll get the Lumix.
Very nice and profound presentation. Thx a lot! 🙏
Nice as always. Didn’t realize the length until you brought it up 😉
Haha. That's a good sign!
A few months ago, I investigated the Canon, Ricoh, and Sony. I bought the Ricoh Griii. It is truly pocketable, as in shirt pocket as well as pants pocket. No viewfinder, pop-up flash, or zoom lens; no problem. I could use an articulating screen, but not for an additional $150+ in costs. The lens is razor sharp, and it's the ideal focal length for street and casual photography. The camera is well designed , though Im not a big fan of the manual focus setup. But the snap focus, Program, manual, and 3 custom user modes is great. The fact that it shoots in RAW format sealed the deal for me. I bought a Godox TT350 flash which I stick in a pocket (of my cargo pants) too if I need it. Now I really do have a camera with me all the time.
Check out the lightpix flashq for the ultimate pocketable set up!
I use the RX100 M6 and use the touch/drag focus feature all the time. Finding that feature changed my experience with the camera dramatically. It works really well on the M6 and I assume the M7 does it as well. The settings are in the Setup 3 menu - Touch Panel/Pad. Select Touch Panel + Pad. Under Touch Pad settings, you can select which part of the screen you want to use as the touch (and drag) pad. I use just the right portion and it feels very natural especially when using the elf.
I have this same camera. I really don’t think it takes good photos - any tips for improvements?
wow that's awesome! I own RX100 M6 for around 4 years and didn’t know about this option. Thanks man!
@@steelstunners1862have you taken the time to look at your images on a bigger screen?
Your camera doesn’t take the photo, you do. If you take a terrible picture, the camera takes a terrible picture.
My main camera is Canon 7D II as I mainly shoot sports, Landscapes, family. I recently picked up G5X II for a simple walk around / travel camera. I am very impressed by this thing for photo and video.
I love the G5XII too. Colours and the menu are great. If it only had the AF of the Sony, it would be the best compact camera.
I really appreciate your work man
I appreciate your comment!
The aspect ratio switch is one of the most used functions on my LX100! Definitely not a useless switch!
Awesome and very very helpful video :)
Thank you for creating this video!!! I made my choice.. Ricoh GR3. Oh, nice music at the end.. 👍
Refreshing with a youtube review that does does not endorse any of the products! Not like all the sell outs out there. Thanks!
Thank you Andrew. Still looking for my always with me camera.... This helps
Would love to know what you decide.
@@AndrewGoodCamera , I will ber sure to let you know what I decide. Right now I'm leaning towards a used X100S. It doesn't check all the boxes for me, but a lot of them... so many factors... so little money. :)
nice job! thinking about lx100 another one to my collection :) got GM1 (love it), Sigma DP2m (LOVE IT!), and other older compacts, but wanna try LX100 to check if that's good for me :D thanks for that comparison. I honestly think that APS-C in Ricoh has a slight advantage giving that little extra DOF compared to other's. And I like the samples from Ricoh the most. Best regards to your sweet family! cheers
Damn good the review, spot on everything
Incredible Work ✌️
Good video Andrew! I personally own the RX100V and love it when I want some zoom reach or tilting screen. I also have both a GR 1 and GR2 I've had for years and those are my go-to carry everywhere cameras as I too lean to the wide end for documentary photo taking. Love them both... Well worth setting up the snap focus, it's wonderful and fast. No other cameras (to my knowledge) have it, I wish others did, super handy for not having to rely on af... I set mine to 1m or 2m depending on scenario for the day and I leave it there... Seems to always work pretty well no matter the lighting. Fwiw
Fuji XF10 has a slightly less flexible snap focus and APSC for $200 less than GR
Fun comparison - thanks for doing this. I've got the LX100 (1st gen) and still love it... Sold all of my Canon gear when I switched to Fuji, but I just can't quite part with my LX100.
Thank you for your time and effort great video!
Here's why I chose Ricoh GRIII over others for my pocket camera. - APS-C sensor + F2.8 lens. - True compactable form factor. This camera just fits right in the pocket and always ready to shoot. - 3 axis IBIS. I can easily shoot 1/4 seconds handheld. - The autofocus isn't that bad at all. It's quite quick, in fact. I just tap the screen where I want to focus and it always nails it. - Snap focusing. I use this AF mode the most when I shoot on the street. - Highlight Priority metering. This metering is God-sent for shooting street during bring and harsh daylight. The only thing I wish it had is a tilting screen. Other than that, the GR III is a solid pocket camera under $1000
@@MPD90 Sadly I sold the GRIII after using for a yr for the reason you mentioned. While snap focusing works well while shooting street, other AF modes are just subpar especially in low light. I also found that the screen is really hard to see in bright daylight which is a bummer since that's when I'm out and about. I sold the GRIII and picked up Fuji XE4 with 27mm f2.8 and never looked back.
I can easily do 1/2 seconds one handed, a second is quite easy too if you try to hold it a bit stable with 2 hands and even 2 seconds is perfectly doable if you brace against something.... It's a beast! Also the lens is so sharp, if you want to buy a lens this good for your mirrorless camera, you'll have to spend about 2x as much as this whole camera costs, it's a lot of money for sure, but it's cheap
Last but not least, you're a ricoh fanboy trying to justify your poorly built overpriced point and shoot
just one question about your GRIII, does the body get very hot after you turn on the camera for a short while? If you keep the camera on for too long, will it get too hot and autmotically shut off?
Thanks for your great review. Especially for the stabilizer test. It speaks volumes. Only the Lumix LX100 II was steady and you didn't say anything about it. Other comparisons found the image quality to be very good and sharp. I'll see, I'll get me one used LX 100 II.
Ricoh has very poor stabilisation in video mode, in photo mode it's much better
I enjoyed this video, it's a very nice comparison of the top four pocket cameras around. When editing, though, you should pay more attention to the added text: when comparing images from the different cameras, the Panasonic LX100 mk II is labelled "LX10 II" and when talking about fps it's labelled "LX100 VII". Other than that, it's a great and informative video! :-)
The GR isn’t ‘plastic’, it’s got a grippy outer surface and a full magnesium body.
Just as a FYI, you can change the settings on the RX100 to turn on/off when you pop up or close the view finder.
Good and informative video. I have the Canon G5X II and I just tried to push in the pop-out on the EVF with my eye but could not do it. Maybe my facial geometry is different than others, but I did not find this to be a problem. Love the camera BTW.
You can control the Autofocus points with the Touchpad (LCD) on the RX100VII when you are using the EVF. You need to have Touch Panel/Pad set to: Touch Panel+Pad in the Setup (Briefcase) Menu page 3
Ah! Thank you for pointing that out. That helps me like that camera a bit more.
Great video!
Best pocket camera review ever. Cheers
Great video with a very helpful comparison of these cameras - I've got a Panasonic GX850 with a 14mm f2.5, very pocketable and affordable these days - I'd like to see a similar photo comparison of the GX850 against the cameras you've featured as I think it may stack up quite well.
Maybe you got a bad sample, but I don’t have this problem with my g5x ii. This thing is a beast. I bought It as a toy for my personal use, then took it one time with me to an event as back up for my A7rIII and was just blown away how versatile this little thing is. Up to ISO1600 it is a perfect working horse which diggs itself deep into my workflow. I love this thing. The LX100 was just to big, the RX100 VI/VII have the best lens but are to slow, the GRIII is for a special kind of photographer, but the G5X II is what I search for. It’s lens could be a little bit sharper, the af has to be better in low light but the rest is really impressive. I was surprised, that the ISO performance is noticeably better with the Canon than the Sony.
The XE-1 with the 27mm pancake works for me! That combo isn't really much bigger than these cameras, and the image quality is great! Also it was like $400USD used!
thanks again for your hrd work and honest review. were I in the market for one of these, and writing this before your conclusion, I think I'd get the Ricoh.
And you did get it!
@@loufonolleras5544 ha ha yes Lou - I did. And I love it (as you know!!)
Found your review really helpful thanks. I've only just bought the RX100VII as I'm bored waiting for Sony to bring out the VIII if at all. One minor point to note is that although you say otherwise at 6:15 in your video, when I pop up the EVF it does switch on the camera and pushing it down also switches it off. Maybe there's been a firmware update.
After-market grip works perfect for the Sony RX100 VII. Really enjoying this camera as I post this three years later.
I can't see it corrected in previous comments, but the RX100 VII can be configured (and is by default) to turn on when you open the EVF and shut down when you close it, without the need to use the on/off button.
16:33 Lumix IBIS is legendary as usual :)
Good comparison video, thanks. Best til last ay! Give me the Rollie 35 and that’s from a LUMIX shooter!!! New to your channel, how much do you use the Rollie?
Thanks a really interesting take. I'm debating buying a compact Sony RX100 vii, but possibly biased as I'm enjoying the capability of Sony kit over 4 years now, having switched from Nikon after 28 years. I suspect the 200mm equiv. range is a handicap and that a faster constant f2.8 (like Canon's) might be better. Handling looks poor. I know one can fit a cage (but that seems contra to the ethos of super compact - I might just be better buying an a6600 instead). I strongly suspect that I need several cameras (which is where I have been previously - running up to 5-6 in days of film - but that's history and not applicable today). If I did buy a more compact camera (currently I use a Google Pixel 6 for that role) it wouldn't ever replace my 'serious' photo kit. Sony and other manufacturer's will never make what I want because the world wide demand would be too small. I note that Sony haven't released an upgrade to the RX100vii in 3+ years, although they do finally now seem to be doing something about their hitherto limited range of top grade APS-C glass. Personally I'd like to have something like a RX100 (iix?) with a built in electronic NDF, 10 bit video capability for log (max dynamic range, notwithstanding the constraints of a tiny 1" sensor) and 2-3 dedicated 'top flight' prime lenses say equiv. 24mm, 35-40mm and 80-85mm all ideally f2 or f2.8. But realistically that's never going to happen. Where next? It's a dilemma as I'm now in the fortunate position of being able to afford any camera I want - trouble is I can't possibly carry all the kit I could/might buy, so need to be wise and considered in my choices. Better I think to consider carefully, buy occasionally then sell on if it doesn't fill a real need. But it's very hard to know what will work optimally without trying to use and live with any given camera for at least 4 weeks. I started on Sony in 2018 with an a6500, then bought an a7r3, a9, a7riv and currently I'm down to just one body an a7iv (others sold). I miss the a9 most. I toyed with buying an a1 but plumped for the better value a7iv when announced, but the a1 is still on my 'maybe' list. I'm lucky to own about 15 high quality full frame Sony optics. For me all Sony kit is compact when I reflect on my old (mostly now all sold) Nikon kit. I feel that all cameras are a compromise and I'm just trying to evaluate which set of trade offs I should ultimately try to work with. I'm keeping my a7iv but contemplating an a1 (mostly sports plus wildlife stills and occasional video from the a1's much faster sensor). A FX3 (video plus rigging to high grade tool, with just an occasional stills shot in mind given it's excellent low light capacity and that I already have all the glass I might ever need from 14-600mm). An a6600 for more compact street and lighter travel (less pro looking / intimidating when I don't want to stand out as a 'serious' photographer). Possibly an a7c (but really on that I'm waiting on an a7c mk ii that utilises internals from the a7iv vs the a7iii internals found on an a7c). The RX100 vii might just be great for uber light alternative shooting (as in always carrying a camera, but recognise it won't rival an a1 with GM optics). Despite binge watching many YT vids. I guess I won't really know if I can live with the benefits and trade offs that an RX100 vii yields until attempting to live with one for a while. Another consideration is that I need to make time to travel more, shoot more images rather than just buy more and more kit.
great video
At the end of the video, you started waffling and I was like “oh no, he’s going to punk out and not gonna actually pick one.” You did, but I am impressed that you said none of them instead of some form of all of them. ( trying not to offend anyone) For my part, I do the same type of photography that you do and I chose the Ricoh. The screen goes bright enough that I don’t really miss an EVF, I just turn up the screen brightness when I’m shooting outdoors. The advantage and dynamic range is noticeable, and the optical quality is really top class. Now that it has a 24 megapixel sensor, the lack of any zoom is easier to deal with. The feature I miss most on it is a flip up screen, for The odd selfie or vlogging. I was thinking of adding an LX 100 mark two to the fleet to get that fast zoom lens and still have a large sensor, but again no flip-up screen and the fact that the lens is not sharp at full zoom is a deal-killer. That makes me think that maybe the Sony with its excellent auto focus and flip up screen is the choice. But as you say I think I would go with a previous version that still had a fast lens. I would also add some skateboard tape to the front of the camera so that it’s not so slippery.
The GRiii touch screen can be used to set the focus point like the Canon and it can also set focus and release the shutter with one touch...
I just bought the G5x on sale for $565usd, such a great camera. I chose it over the G5x ii because of the flip screen and the fixed EVF on top.
I'm in the market for a compact and hadn't thought of the original G5X. I'm gonna check that out, thanks 👍 How is the battery life though?
Ricoh in my pocket and X-Pro2 + primes in my backpack or around my neck.
The LX100 original model found its way into my bag a few years ago, I loved almost everything about it....until the dust specks started showing up on the sensor. But I loved the camera so much I bought another, same thing. Turns out that the design of the zoom makes it more prone to dust on the sensor with no easy way to clean it. So now my pocket carry is the Canon G7X II (I also shoot a fair bit of video with it, fits my needs perfectly) which augments my Fuji stuff (X-H1 and ST-30) for more serious video and still work. But when I want to go out and just shoot, a Rollei 35 and a roll or two of Fujifilm Superia 800 occupies the pockets of my cargo shorts.
Ah, that is bad news and helpful info, thank you. And yes, I have several Rollei 35 cameras. Someone needs to make a digital version. :)
Yes, you are not the only one with this problem. These are dust magnets. I have an LX100 since 3 months and have been in a dusty environment with wind, got caught by surprise but fortunately no dust on the cam sensor. I bought the LX100II secodnhand. Not a spec on the sensor. It seems advisable to use a brush and take it with you and brush the dust off wiping away from the body to the front of the lens. I never did that. but it seems to be a way to get rid of it. Other than that, the LX100 and even more so the LX100II are for me a real trea topt use. Many things manually on cam available which I love. And for my wife who is not that much into photocams, the Ai function means she can take pics with ease as well. I also own a GM5, an EPL5, a GH4 and a EM1.2 Oly. The last one with primes get me visible sharper pics than the LX100II (which gets clearly better IQ than my LX100 does) but none of these cams are as fun to use as the LX100II. So for landscape etc I use Em1.2 and may be soon the G9mkII,, also for low light shooting, lightning etc. But for streets, holidaytrips with the family etc it is the LX100II.
I travel with an X-Pro2 + lenses and a GRIII (plus a phone of course). I am not a street photographer. Filtering through Lightroom I take (just about) more GRIII shots than anything else. I early enjoy this camera from pretty well all characteristics. We often find ourselves in Australia where the intense brightness is a defeat for any LCD so then I either wing it or use the (expensive) Ricoh OVF which is a glorious and sumptous experience.
Good video overall. I've decided to keep using my RX100V in light of the 24-70mm f1.8-2.8 dslr equivalent lens. It is excellent AF with Face Detect and Eye Priority autofocus AI tech in it. Having 4K UHD 30fps is all I need for clips as a 'b camera'. It also has S-LOG profiles. Lastly, I bought a small metal grip that adds additional protection of the camera as well as making it easier to hold.
Nice comparison! Man, it's a shame about the EVF on the Canon. I was thinking of picking one up, but the two-step deployment, and sensitivity to getting nudged back in, kills it for me. I have a RX100 7, and it's a great camera, with very good AF. I spend most of my time on the long focal lengths, so I like the zoom, but like you said, some people don't need it. I have a GR2 as well, and it's a cool, little camera. Extremely sharp, but like you noticed, the AF can be really slow at times. It's great to gave a pocketable camera with APS sensor, though!
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Fuji's X100 series in comparison with these, particularly since the rumored X100V is supposedly around the corner. The 35mm-equivalent fixed lens tends to put it in a lot of comparison matches against the GRIII, but with more of the standard Fuji ergonomics so many of us love. I'm enjoying your increased frequency of videos while you're on your sabbatical!
Thanks Christopher. I'd say the X100F would blow all of these other cameras out of the water on just about every measurement except for pocketability (which was my main criteria for this video). It's a wonderful device.
I'm a pocket camera fiend and own many. My current favourites are the Panasonic LX10, Ricoh GR, and Sony RX0. The last is the most hardy pocket camera, waterproof and crush proof, and has excellent image quality. It's not terribly ergonomic but theres a deep sense of security in how strong it is.
Have you used Olympus E-PL cameras? For example the E-PL7-10 with either pancake zoom, body cap lens, or small prime?
@@dedclownsRfunny No, I haven't used any of the E-PL cameras, but I have a Panasonic GM1, which is wonderfully enjoyable with any of the Olympus f1.8 primes. Since I made the original comment, my Ricoh GR has gone kaput, like other Ricohs I have had over the years. Unfortunately, it is the only brand I've personally encountered that has consistently failed under long term use. Meanwhile, my RX0 has shot tens of thousands of frames since 2018 and continues to function perfectly.
Thanks for this comparison, Andrew! Could you comment on how out-of-camera JPEGs compare between these? I want to document my life in stills, but I don't want to spend half of it fiddling with post-processing. From the samples in your video, the Canon seems to have the most pleasing colors (no surprise there), but I was expecting more out of the Panasonic also. Cheers!
Film option indeed. I traveled Hong Kong and China in 1983 with a bag full of Nikon’s and lenses but bought an Olympus XA. The clamshell with a 35mm lens. I ended up shooting about 35 rolls of Ektachrome and Kodachrome with it and barely used the Nikons. Being smooth all over it really slipped into any pocket. Had built in lens protection and a fabulous lens with perfect exposure. Most of the cameras you tested come up short in comparison apart from that new fangled digital aspect.
agylub You are right. The XA was the best usable small analogue camera, better than a Rollei or Minox, because it had a coppled rangefinder
Since you are a mountain biker here is some food for thought. The Ricoh GR III has some compromises, of course. However, you are like me on the trail and only bring the bare minimum (no hydration bags). Ricoh GR III is the only camera that will fit in a small saddle bag or pocket. You could even add some padding in the saddlebag to protect the camera.
Good job, Andrew. First time I've seen the washing machine test...
I've watched a ton of these camera review videos lately. All of them have sample shots taken by the reviewer, of which, I've found most to be surprisingly mundane. For me, photos are either interesting or boring . . . primarily brought about by the composition. Again for me, composition trumps everything else. Street photography---or documentational photography as you describe---is a lot more than a shot of the back of someone walking down a city sidewalk in the rain. Your samples are consistently interesting . . . the kind of shots one wants to linger over. Great, natural work . . . a definite cut above most of what I've seen. A lot like my own (that's a tacky humble brag, sorry . . . I think I just ruined my comment)
Thanks a ton!
The autofocus on GR3 is not the greatest out of the bunch. But that's where the snap focus comes in. It takes a while to learn but when you do GR3 becomes magical.
I have the Ricoh GR II (not three), LX100 (1 not 2), Sony RX100 IV and Canon G5X II. Overall I prefer the Canon G5X II. I LOVE the popup EVF.
The GRIII monochromes are amazing, with the LX100ii second.
For concerts and family trips. which camera would you recommend? I'm really keen on the zoom of the sony rxvii, but the GR3x seems so good too. Concerts usually kinda dark and id need a bit of zoom (but not too much as im not that far). I'd also like to get that "film" look, but idk if thats in the editing and not in the camera itself.
Happy GR III camper here! My Dad owns the LX100 (first version). I just love the unrivaled combination of ultraslim and light design, usability (touch, 3 wheels, plenty configurable buttons), modern APS-C sensor, the sharpest lens I have ever used and efficient IBIS. Even the digital crop to 50mm is about as good as the RX100 at 50mm (lens resolves not even close to the 20MP, Ricoh resolves every single pixel, cropped = 7,5MP; used sensor real estate is also the same at 50mm digital crop).
Love my GR III to pieces… But his judgment is fair. I wish it had at least a brighter screen and the burst rate being higher and a better autofocus. Although it works well in good light and snapfocus is a standalone feature of the Ricoh that is faster than any autofocus. But still: the large aspc sensor and the razorsharp prime lense in such a small sized camera and the film simulations makes it still the best compact camera on the market. For me.
*UPDATE 1:* A lot of people are wondering why I didn't include the Fuji X-E3 with a pancake lens in this comparison. The LX100 II was already pushing it, so I don't think I'd qualify the X-E3 as quite "pocketable": cameradecision.com/compare-size/Fujifilm-X-E3-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DC-LX100-II *UPDATE 2:* I was mistaken about two things in relation to the Sony RX100 VII. It's been pointed out to me that it is possible to do touch/drag focus on the Sony RX100 VII, as well set the popup EVF to activate on startup.
No mention of 90 FPS burst on Sony RX 100 VII?
What about lx10 and xf10? I am considering all of those you reviewed here and plus that two cameras.
About a year ago I was starting to think about getting my first real camera for travel. Looked at all of these options (or the older equivalent at the time), and eventually was seriously considering either the Ricoh or the Fuji XF10. Wanting to buy something locally, I saw an X70 on sale at Walmart in Mexico and picked it up instead (not realising that it had already been discontinued at that point). Such a nice camera, pity they never followed it up :'(
Hope you watched Mattias Burlings videos.
@@dpie4859 yeh a lot of his videos popped up, he's a pretty big fan of the Ricohs if I recall correctly. Probably would have gotten one if not for the price/local availability. And I continue watching his videos just for the soothing voice...
Hey I just wanted to let you know that you can use the evf “finder” button to turn on the rx100. So no need for two steps, just hit the finder switch and the evf will raise and turn the camera on. It can also turn the camera off when you close the evf
Wow very cool! Thanks
This also works the same on the mkV model as well... Good call on the short cut... I too use this 👍👍
Andrew thanks for the review. You mentioned that for now "I'll have to go to a film option". What is the name of the brand and model of the small film camera you showed?
Thank you for a great comparison video. i am planning to buy a portable Travel camera (am already owning Fujifilm XT4 with kit lens). which one Fuji X100V or Sony RX100 VII is best choice for me.?
I keep a Sony RX100 V in one pocket and a Sony RX100 VII in another pocket. The f1.8 on the V comes in handy for low light pics like at live music
If you had to have only one which would you choose?
@@IloveBTCandICP V because I don't record video as much and the f1.8 can maen the difference between getting and not getting the shot. I keep a Zoom H1N in my pocket if I need to record sound
@@circuitsandcigars1278 thank you so much for the reply! I’m definitely mostly photography but I now have a 1 year old so I’m wanting video also so I’m kinda confused because lower f-stop is obviously nice but is the auto focus as good on the V?
@@IloveBTCandICP Same basic lightning fast autofocus. I've used a bunch of digital cameras including another Sony but the RX100 series opened my eyes to fast focus speeds. I had a few Nikon's and lenses I'm getting rid of that were dog slow focus compared to my Sonys
Since the spring of 2018 I sold my Nikon glass and Pany m4/3 system to move to Sony. Sold the Sony after 6 months to move to Fuji. Sold the Fuji system 1 year to repurchase Nikon glass and the z6. In all that time the one constant was my gr1. Didn't even sell it when purchasing the griii in December. Love, love, love those little pocket cameras. If I could get one with a 20mm lens I would carry one in each pocket.
Get the GR iii. You will not regret it. Lovely touch screen, great sensor and IBIS!
@@dpie4859 Got it in December. Love it!
Dude, the lx100 has an auto lens cap. It's aftermarket, but it's there if you want it. Also, knocks on the lx100 include the field sequential EVF with RGB tearing and the sloooooooow zoom--though you can set the zoom to step between common prime focal lengths.
Just re-viewed this video. Did help me a lot (besides other videos, e.g. from Mattias Burling.) For me there were just two questions to answer: Is it easy to carry along when I don't take my "normal" camera with me? Does it produce a picture quality I can be happy with -- even after some time and compared with larger cameras? The Ricoh GR III was a winner for me on both categories, I have one in my car and another one to take along whenever I leave home (without my car).
Thank you very much
Ricoh GR III owner here. Very happy. Easy and quick to operate. Amazing colors and ultra sharp pictures. Best thing is how small it is. Small=you take it with you=best camera is the one you carry with you.
If only it had an EVF option, I'd be with you completely.
@@AndrewGoodCamera EVF is nice but I have accepted the trade off with its small size. And btw...how do you use your smartphone when taking pictures? ;-)
I don't use a smartphone for the same reason. That's the whole point of this video to try to find a pocketable substitute that feels more like a traditional camera. I get that plenty of people don't mind shooting with an LCD. But I really don't. Especially outside in the bright sun, which is where I'm shooting half the time where I live.
Great roundup. If I had to pick one of these for documentary use, it’s probably be the G5XIII. That whole series has been very good to me over the years. The Sony is expensive and not fun to handle. The LUMIX is just too big. The Ricoh is just way too much compromise.
Agreed. If only that G5X II didnt have that fiddly EVF.
@@AndrewGoodCamera I have one on my rx100VA and hardly use it... too tiny
Thinking about the Canon EOS M200 coupled with the 22mm f2 pancake lens. That combo can fit in a pocket without much problems, plus it has an APSC sensor. I realize it's considered a beginner budget choice, I'm an enthusiast, but it's the convenience I'm looking for as a backup.
If Sony could do a 7a with a 24-150mm f2.8-4 lens that would be awesome.i use the VA for underwater photography and I wish I had a tad bit more zoom for macro work.
I got a opened box LX100 II (payd 800$ from 1000$ for a camera with only 100 frames) like 4 days ago and shoot like 100 pictures/day with it, the camera is really, really good ! I really love a lot of things about it and i would like some improvements of course (i'm a long time dslr owner, I had about 10 dslr's including full frames like D600 and D810 with 2.8 zooms) and i bought this for travel (i got sick of carrying 7kg of gear with me in my trips), walks in the park and so on. What i love about it : 1. is pretty compact compared with what i'm used to , 2 it has great image quality for a compact camera and even decent bokeh (i found the lens being verry sharp, sharper than you said in the video). Even the digital zoom is not too bad, is verry usable, 90-120 mm is good, but at 150mm iq drops a little, is like using iso 1600 in the dailight 3. the controls are just AWSOME ! I set it up for my taste, i know every dial and fn buttons, i can set it up in seconds (is not a camera that i would reccomend for photography noobs) , it trashes other compact cameras in this department , 4. it has a real useful hotshoe what i really use with a Olympus FL-LM3 flash bought for 50$ from someone who got it from a Pen F and never used the flash, it just needed a small "adjustement" like in this video, kzhead.info/sun/a7inXcV-jH2um4E/bejne.html made it in a few minutes :) . I even made a small diffuzer for it from a battery cap that i had from a Nikon D5500 battery and a bounce card , that i cut from a cardboard box from a home standard lightbulb ;) .Now i cand bounce the little flash in any dirrection and the light looks like the one from a big flash :) 5. It has a ok evf, touch screen and decent video (but not great and it takes a lot of space on the card) 6. it has a good battery for a compact camera , it came with a quarter battery when it arrived and i shot over 100 frames wit it, now i got about 300 and still has some juice in it. In your face Sony !!! :)) What i don't like about it and in this order: 1. I wish it had better af , i made a test with my girls running around with all focusing modes and got only about half of them in focus. I wish the camera had the RX 100 VII af , i saw that camera working and it's awsome in this department . Point to point af is good, but the next model really needs improvement in continuous af. 2. i wish it had a flippy screen or at least a tilting one than can go down to 180 gr (not up, because i usually put my flash on the hotshoe) 3. i wish it had a better viewfinder. His evf is ok , but not at the level that some mirrorless camera that i tested 4. i wish it had a way better codec for 4k video and without the crop , it records like with 700-750mb/minute , it's ridiculous . Sony is still way better for filming. For now i preffer to use my S9+ with my osmo mobile 3 gymbal , it uses half the space and have nicer videos. 5. i wish it had a headphone jack 6. i wish it had weather sealing , just like Canon G1 X III . You can do it Panasonic ! :) PS: If the next model comes out in 2 years (there were 4 years between the first and second model and this one came out in 2018) and it has at least the first 4 points from the minuses resolved i would buy the new camera instantly ! :)
Do you know if there are difference in autofocus speed and image quality between the Canon G5X and the Canon G5X II? I don't use burst shooting nor 4K and the Canon G5X , at $400, seems like an amazing deal now and might be an interesting choice for traveling lightly. Otherwise, the LX100M2 seems to be more fun to use for those missing film cameras.
Fuji x100 line is pocketable as well, specially with cargo pockets
for the lumix there is some automatic lenscap, if I recall correctly... yes, i just checked, amazon less than 20 usd
YUPPERS.
Makes it even more difficult to remove from pocket!
2:40 - Hi, Andrew! They're all (I guess) plastic inside :)) I've just watched a 3 part serie of tear down of Sony RX100 M4. It just looks "metal" but the main ribs inside are made of plastic. The "siding" looks cool and robust... But you don't even try to drop this tiny camera! The outer metal is pretty thin and soft. There are a stack of small PCBs at different angles (not a surprize of course!) and they're pretty much contacting with the case without dampers (I've didn't spotted any!). So these can be very fragile to big vibration shocks or drop shocks. Also due to it's sizes it's a real PIA and hell for a service master. If you're out of a warranty case then I suppose that a serious fix can easily cost 1/3 - 1/2 of it's full price! I can put a link of that video if somebody's interested. That guy (Dave from EEVLOG) calls this "envelope design". I name it "origami electronics". About what was inside RX100 M4. I'm sure that M6 and M7 are nearly the same. Because the size wasn't enlarged. And it's BAD IMHO! I've found Mark VII with a good discount (the rubber lip that covers USB doesn't fit well). But after Dave's videos I have a very little desire to buy M6 or M7 of Sony. Of course it's nothing if you're getting at least about 5k $ free cash a year (after all charges, expenses and taxes). Then probably it's not a PIA. It will last for 5-6 years easily without repairs... If you'll not drop it accidently. The size is very small, it's slippery and the opt. viewfinder is miniscule. I mean it takes place which could be just used for something else. To redistribute modules for example. This could give more space for a real heatsink. I know that there are some new cool membrane type "coolers". They're flat but takes place anyway. If Sony r&d managers aren't stupid then they're on this way already. I wish that Sony would make Mark VIII 1.5 bigger with a real "cage case" with a 5d milled case made out of a good Aluminum alloy. And silicon dampers for PCBs and fragile components like the lens block! Who needs this tiny case? It's just a "jedy stuff"!
You made the comment about the Sony RX100 VII's EVF, "The only thing I wish it would do is automatically switch on when you turn the camera on, or at least have the option to do so, so it's not a two step process to begin shooting at eye level like it is now." In the menu to to the "lunch bucket" (next to the star), page 2 or 7, bottom most option entitled "Function for VF close". Turn to "power off". Now when you pop of the EVF up, the camera turns on and when you close it the camera shuts off. Personally I prefer it in "Not Power Off" mode myself, but the option is there to turn the camera on. Touch focus using he LCD (back screen)...menu "lunch bucket" page 3 of 7, turn on...Also ensure under the 2nd Camera in the menu, page 10 of 10 Fuch of Touch Operation is set to Touch Focus. Turn the mode dial to SCN (scene) mode and you will find a Macro mode also. Burst mode on the RX-100VII might be 20 fps, but shoots 20 fps with NO black out and I got about 110 continuous frames in RAW with mine. Which brings me to the question, which of the others can shoot RAW, I'm assuming all. Btw, I used to be a Canon shoot since around 1980 till last year. I mean to each their own. I don't consider a camera that can't fit in my pocket a pocket camera as your title "Best camera for your pocket?" says, thus the Lumix bites the dust immediately as its not truly a "pocket camera" (more of a "special" pocket camera). I actually shoot with 3 cameras, ya you guessed it the RX100VII, also a Full Frame mirror-less and a "Bridge camera" depending on the situation. Bought the RX100 because I wanted/needed? a camera that WOULD fit in my pocket when I'm out riding my bike, as I wanted something better than a smartphone. Good video though.
Thanks for the corrections! others have mentioned these errors as well. That makes me like the RX100 vII significantly more. If it werent for that over-achieving zoom range... ;) As I showed in the video, the LUMIX LX100 does fit in my pocket, though it's not ideal.
@@AndrewGoodCamera Once again, the zoom has to do with the users needs. As for me, I wanted the extra reach, because my bridge camera can reach 600mm equivalent. I like the 20 fps, well, sometimes I think its too fast thus turn it to med which I think it 10fps (would have to look it up) The eye detection focus is amazing. HOWEVER, that price tag isn't amazing, and isn't for everyone.