The “slow death” of Aleister Black: Oral Sessions with Renee Paquette
2021 ж. 7 Мау.
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Tommy End ponders the “disconnect” that led to his stop-and-start WWE run as Aleister Black, and the serenity he found in his release.
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Oral Sessions #048
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I really really like how she just let him talk. It's a very underrated skill that most interviewers don't have or just don't employ.
Sometimes when a person is rambling or stalling out you need to interrupt or prompt them. That said, when someone is on a roll and saying something worth listening to, yes, just shut up and let them speak. As you said, it's sadly a rare skill in interviewers
She's as great an interviewer as there is.
Or cut into an ad halfway through the conversation
@@perryholley6005 Have you heard of a podcaster called Brendan Schwab, notorious for asking questions and then immediately cutting the interviewee off, like almost comically fast lol
@@davem7456 Not specifically, but I've heard plenty of others commit the same sin.
His NXT run was fucking unreal, delivered every performance, my man Tommy can't wait to see you perform at your 100% again.
Are you watching him on AEW? He's fantastic
@@chrismarthaller1032 Second this. The House of Black is amazing
@@dcscott0602 I want the House of Black to be major players in AEW who win multiple titles and lay waste to other factions.
I really hope where ever he goes, that he can fulfill his vision of his character and be great once again.
Me too
He should go to Impact
YES! He totally deserves his time to shine!!
I know the WWE rejects to AEW conversations people love to spew, but he should go there.
Black/End in ROH would be something great to see, instead of him going to AEW or Impact. Even him going to NJPW would be amazing to see.
Renee is on fire with these guests and podcast. Tommy End is respectful, talented, and a tremendous wrestler. He will find great success. Disappointed in WWE, but not necessarily surprised. I guess that's the nature of the beast.
I'm betting that she's about to be blacklisted from getting contracted WWE folks shortly...
She’s nosy asf only invites them when something happens with them, yet never invites them before that though
@@thestunner8552 That may be true, and everyone has negative parts about them that I don't like, but overall I like Renee more than I dislike her. She seems down to Earth, she has good interviews, and the people who she interviews always seem to like her back. I enjoyed her time at WWE also (not her commentary, but her backstage stuff and she was a great host on Talking Smack). So even if what you said is true, I still like her.
@@thestunner8552 They can say no to an interview, ya stooge.
“I met my wife there”- sure “I met you there”- HELL YEAH!!!
😂😬
Beyond pissed at WWE . However , good luck out there, Aleister. And, thanks Renee for another good interview.
I'm not, I'm glad for Tommy's sake. After his NXT run, it was mostly downhill for him as far as creative goes. WWE screwed him over, and I'm glad now he'll be able to go and do whatever he wants to do without the chains of WWE pulling him down to the mid card. He has all the talent to be a top guy, and in WWE he probably wouldn't have ever been because WWE likes to recycle the same bullshit all the time.
@@ShadyGrady3 i bet they care more than you think when their ratings are still in the shitter
I feel sorry about aleister he was the best wrestler in the business I think he can go to aew or impact wrestling I think that can be great for aleister
@@soulessshadow5356 lmao
Vince was full of praise. Jim Cornette literally just said in his latest episode that means you’re fucked.
Oh Vince loved me but that damn.....______
Jim's not reliable
the whole "if he's not criticizing you, he doesn't care about you" thing can be hard to interpret if you don't know about it beforehand, if that makes sense.
@@simthegreatt why? All the legends in the buisness respect him and hes actually worked for most of the major products Let me guess, meltzer is reliable?
@@1KQ_ biased brick that always shitting on the product
At this point, someone just needs to start "Good Luck on Your Future Endeavors: The Podcast".
Not a bad idea....
That's basically Jericho's shtick lol
@@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS eh, Renee has that going lately
This man is a fucking rock star. He has it all. He’ll be a top guy wherever he goes 🙏🏼
Only problem is that he is not going anywhere because Tom Budgen is a loser in life, hahahahahahaha
@@tronbeyondtheveil8005 Dawg he's married to Zelina Vega, sounds like a winner 🤷♂️
@@Raze_DJ2 That's about all he got going and I don't know how the hell that even happened.
WWE really screwed up with Tommy. He could have been a huge star
Hopefully, he will be in another company
In NXT he was. However the main roster...
He definitely is Vince is stupid
Tbh I’m glad that he’s gone from WWE. Vince would never use him the way he should’ve been used.
Hopefully AEW picks him up, AEW is the only other Big stage here in the United States.
Tommy sounds like the kind of guy you build around as a sports-entertainment/wrestling business. Excellent worker, great at having discussions with higher-ups, professional all around, very positive thinker no matter the situation. Really surprises me that they would let him go, a guy like that is very hard to find.
hes going to fit great in aew if they go after him
Wwe never surprise me anymore
@@julien2231 when they don’t fumble, that’s surprising. Them not being able to see and develop great talent is the norm unfortunately.
Not in the Netherlands 😘
velveteen v black was one of the best matches in nxt history.
@Brandon Mahon that hurt nxt to me. I wish they still had these 2 and Lars! why can't people apologize for their missteps and be given a chance to reform and make amends. like if Lars said he apologized and agreed to do some charity work or make a big donation to some group. that is good enough for me. making a negative imto a positive isna is a great thing. people deserve second chances. I have been given them. who hasn't? just firing these guys means everyone loses. the sport loses, the fans loses, and the ones who sacrificed years for wrestling lose. I respect wrestling too much to just throw one of them away like this. society has become so cruel.
Best story sure but not match.
@@Billiepippen they already had given Lars a second and third chance though.
@@soulcrusher807 it's ONE of the best to me.
@@soulcrusher807 they did? damn. anyway. his ring pose with the light behind him was dope af
If you’re in nxt, and Vince says “I want you”.. run and sign to aew
Amen.
It's scary how true that is. Only a handful of insanely over people in NxT move up and get used properly
Renee is such an incredible interviewer. She is so genuine and down to earth. It’s just a conversation and she never interrupts, just letting them talk and vent. This was one of her best yet. I learned a lot I didn’t know and what a true class act Tommy End is.
Vince is like an overgrown baby, and the wrestlers are his toys - Tommy was obviously one of the toys that Vince got bored with....
Yea you sense a theme with talent he gets interested in for a bit, then uses them so much that he grows tired of them and down the card they go after a short while: Ricochet, Fandango, probably throw in Umaga and Khali when he was World Champ too.
his only 2 ideas that "worked" were hulk hogan and the undertaker . even then. hulk hogan was alot of terry's input
You can't really trust a person like that.
But is Vince really in control? Doesn't seem like it to me. Don't hate me for this but it seems like the PG rating is holding Vince back and what he wants to do because he has to worry about shareholders and corporate sponsors, what TV networks will say about the content. That's why he's ripping up the scripts every week. And also I think Nick Khan has a lot to do with it too, treating WWE like a sports team instead of a wrestling promotion. he's a snake in the grass and I don't like him at all
@@dusty616l Dibiase, razor ramon, the model, perfect, yokozuna, kane, jbl, ect he has more hits than misses especially marketing wise.
Despite being dutch His accent is very much american It surprises me with suspence.
The face he makes at 10:24 Thats the face of a man who is super passionate and is putting his whole heart into what he loves. Excited to see what Tommy does next!
he sounds like a really good guy and a proactive person. hope to see him in AEW soon
He may be a better fit in ROH
@@mr.wright9867 he’s too big for that now, He’s more than worthy of national TV not gyms
@@bernie281 that comment shows that you only watch that pg show, I think AEW killed nxt in ratings so bad that they moved to Tuesday 🤷🏽 not bad for a gymnasium
Tim Glover he’s saying he’s too big for ROH not AEW.
I'd love to see him in AEW he is an amazing wrestler with main event talent!
He should never blame himself. Keep getting better as a character and as a person. Keep improving who you are. You cant change whats happened but you can change what hasnt happened. Go to school, gym, beach with the family or even garden. But as a person keep getting better in many different aspects. You live the dream but sometimes you wake up before the dream ends or the movie ends on a bad note. But you want to get that next movie role. Brush off the past and be ready for the future. There is money to make and a life outside the bubble. Dont burn bridges and be ready because how you handle the now will get that phone ringing in the future. But never blame yourself, get that out your head. Dont get in your own head, feel good that you can do better and be better. Grow as a person. The past is experience and the future is waiting to be told.
I can see him returning one day and becoming the next Drew McIntyre
These are very inspirational word Hank Danight. Makes me wonder if you went thru a similar experience to know exactly what to say. Not only does this make sense but is very good words to live by and to truly do something great with your life. Thank You for sharing. I recently went thru a bad experience and to hear (or read) something like this reassures me that I will be ok and will do better in my future life. Thank you very much! :-)
He's preaching to the choir. Mox is probably sitting next to his wife just nodding 😆
This interview is mind-blowing because you understand the frustration of many WWE wrestlers and I wish him the best because he deserves better I've never been so frustrated for a person
I was devastated that Tommy End was wasted on WWE main roster He had Undertaker Protégé vibes! I hope he succeeds wherever he goes.
Definitely not undertaker vibes 😂 😂 😂 😂 💀
He was supposed to help Undertaker during his final match at Wrestlemania 36, that would've been a huge push to his career. This guy was a threat to Roman Reigns and every other top guys.
@@bigsmokeweiler8941 Undertaker "PROTEGE". 🤡
I'm sure takers image was incorporated into blacks sins of the father promo
"Very distinct voice" Johnny Ace.
Tommy End ( FKA Aleister Black) is a great human being and wrestler
So are you
I know a lot of people tend to say "*Insert name here* should get pushed when they go to AEW." I can EASILY see this guy as a champion ANYWHERE.
Him and Ricochet were a fantastic tag team
There is so much sadness and frustration in his voice and expressions and its all organic. He sounds the most sad out of all other releases.
He was one of the most well spoken guys present in the business.I hope wwe realise their mistake and rehire him
Fuck WWE i hope he gets paid better elsewhere.
I hope he never goes back, what for? So they can change his gimmick again? Give him a stupid mask, play with dolls, and force him out again? The industry needs talent, not Vince monopoly.
@@shindean watch his twitch stream.He said that vince liked him and told him to do the dark father character and if things don't work,he could go back to nxt.If it was someone like ricochet,ali,jeff etc,i would completely agree with your statement
@@debrup.04 Vince liked him so much he rewarded him with unemployment, what a caring boss😃
@@shindean corporate world is very different.We don't know what happens backstage.The release is questionable but we don't know if it's really vince or something
Tommy is such a awesome dude, really can't wait to see what he does next.
Cough cough * AEW
He wants to be back on WWE so bad.
@@redzero1649 Who knows where else in the meantime? AEW, ROH, IMPACT, NWA, Nooj. Only time will tell.
Everyone should be trying to sign Tommy End
Who is everyone??
@@tigwelder4137 Impact Njpw Aew Cmll Roh etc
@@tigwelder4137 there is not one promotion that shouldnt be trying to get this guy.
@@Biggev77 he's got 90 days....
@@UltraInstinctBattousai he has 90 days of a no compete……
Is there anything more frustrating then having a guy who's all in and tries everything in his power to "get noticed" and they just don't see it at all? I hope this dude gets everything he wants in life.
This dude can be a star anywhere. Seems super humble and motivated. I can't believe he was this professional for this whole clip and still claimed he was being negative. He would kill in AEW but it's a little crowded there at the moment. He could do big things in NJPW/AAA.
Tommy End would be great in AEW. That would be such a pop if he showed up and cut the best promo.
All those PWG matches he had with most of the AEW roster! Can’t wait for the next step on his journey
They need something other than least scary guy ever kenny omega lol
I definitely agree
Exactly because wwe was stupid
@@juliusjujusurratt9568 yes indeed i wouldnt be suprised if bray left cuz special characters like his, braun, aleisters, andrade etc deserved alot more
Everytime I heard Tommy say that vince was like "I want him give me that guy" all I can think is that in Vince's head he's really thinking "Come Paul give me that guy I wanna bury him! LET ME BURY HIM!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!!!!"
I don't think that's his intention, but the current creative environment definitely does that to people. Whether inadvertently or not.
@@FatsFalafel Vince is known for being vindictive to his wrestlers. He buried Rusev and Elias for getting over with their own ideas. Buried lots of territrory talent on purpose back in the 80's and 90's as well.
@@danklordsupreme8864 While that may seem the case, I can't imagine someone who likes money as much as he does would intentionally sabotage people. I honestly just think the system they currently have in place for booking is super inept.
@@FatsFalafel everyday, CM Punks "hes a millionaire who should be a billionaire " quote pays more diligence. Wrestling is almost as petty as high schools are on the CW
@@FatsFalafel Vince is that egotistical.
Awesome I can't wait to watch the entire episode of this interview
Wwe Literally ruined him for no reason 😭😭😭😭
More like no good reason. It wasnt what was best for business. Because fans wanted more of him.
@@DaNIGHTz stupid wwe fangirls lmao
wwe pick and choose who they want,best example is cena who won 99% percent of the time when he was on top...even the rock lost regularly when he was the champion.
Wasted?? He was most protected wrestler in WWE after Roman Reigns.. He got pinned like 5 or 6 times during his time in WWE.. and he will be back soon.. you can clearly see he wants to go back to WWE..
He isn't the first and wont be the last.
In my opinion Tommy is a game changer. I will watch him wherever he goes. He is a modern day RVD!!!
100% right
The pop when this guy shows up at All Out is gonna be wild.
Wait, when exactly is All Out?
@@maxvazquez7213 Labor Day weekend
wow my respect to this man hit a new level knowing how professional he is no matter what they throw in his way 🙏
Thanks for sharing Renee
Giving a platform for incredibly talented artists who have given their lives to their craft. Thank you Renee for shining a light on their journeys and amplifying their voices!
*Good to see him here and share his feelings right after he.........* 😔😔😔
He’s just a really wonderful person. Beautiful mind and heart. So excited to see what he does. Plan to follow him wherever he goes🖤🥀
I was so sad by his release thank you Renee for providing us with this.
This guy is so damn passionate about this business and Vince and his damn stooges broke his spirit. He's gonna make them regret it!
This guy is fucking awesome! I like him so much! I can’t wait for him to show up in AEW!!!
Oooh I am so excited to watch this
To be fuckin honest, i'm really gonna miss this Man. Just a pure hearted soul. Perhaps the next Drew! B8 fine. He's gonna do better for him wherever he goes. 💔
Why miss him? Just follow wherever he goes.
Such a good performer, wish him all the best in his future.
We wish him all the best in his future endeavors, yes....
My word ... dude got real and emotional. I swear he almost broke a couple of times. I am such a fan of his and know he is going to land on his feet but damn. You can feel his hurt. Just damn
I love that Renee makes really good questions and she lets the interviewer talk
Love this interview......
I hope he just dominates moving forward. Renee is so good at letting them vent without interrupting. Love it
Vince: This guy's great. He's amazing. He's got it all. HHH: He's over to. Vince: He's getting over!? Oh well, time to ruin him.
Maybe you should have read about what he said about wrestlers and their characters. He himself stated that wrestlers need to have their own ideas also. You dumbasses always want to jump straight to the "vince buried him" talk when you don't know shit about how the business works
@Enn bee It's pretty much how it goes. If you get over organically Vince buries you. If you're not a big sweaty man you will be buried. And if you are a female performer you can forget it if you aren't a busty one or blonde you will be buried as well.
@@blaketenison1200 and yet WWE creative doesn't give them that freedom they hand them a script they are expected to follow. Go back and read some personals from bray Wyatt about how creative WWE allowed him to be with the fiends storyline. Made it very washed out very quick. Dumbass his statement of they need to make their own character is more of a suggestion to how to make that character fluerish but wwe does not give their performers any creative freedom. Punishment for not following the script ask KO ask Shane McMahon even.
@@blaketenison1200 you clearly don't even know how WWE works. It's scripted their is a creative team that designs their stories. They don't even get to create their own character names. He'll Vince gives them pathetic gimmicks as punishment for public embarrassment. Like are you blind or just heavily ignorant. Because the terminology your calling others reflects you the most right now. Do me a favor get an eye exam and a reality check
When Vince gets over you, you aint over.....but over due.
What a chill, humble dude. Ridiculously talented. Can’t wait for the next chapter
Love Renee and her style of interviews one of the best out there
I really hope AEW picks him up, this second show they are starting comes at a most perfect of times
🥱🥱🥱
@@thestunner8552 Nah
Ok Renee, i see you out here! Making big moves 😊👏👏 I'm so proud of you for giving wrestlers a voice to share how they really feel. These are more than interviews, they are great chats with friends you never knew you had but wanted. Keep up the great work
Great conversation. I enjoyed it. Looking forward to whatever he does next. Sky's the limit
How in the hell could you let go of someone, this talented, this professional, this dedicated and passionate about his craft. I swear that company has a unique skill at squandering talent. His work ethic is honestly inspiring, and I can't wait to see his work in the future.
I hope they restart their KZhead channel. I miss seeing his interactions with his wife, the workouts, and the cats.
This man had 1 of the best entrances in the modern era too. Triple H once again creates the stars while Vince destroys them
Love your work.
Thank you Renee for bringing us these conversations from all the people who've been wronged by WWE. (Wish you all the blessing for the child. That kid is gonna be the luckiest kid to grow up with you and Jon effing Moxley as his/her parents)
Renee always on the ball
WWE has only been in the business of taking talent away from the indies, they do it and hold them in NXT or give them directionless few months on the main rosters constantly putting over other people, its very rare that any of these guys have actually made it, Owens and Zayn had to struggle and that says it all. Its about removing money from other businesses, its worth more to pay these guys like Ciampa, Gargano, Cole etc etc and hide them away in NXT away from the indie scene which was having its best business in decades, look what they did to the UK scene. The wrestlers are their own worst enemy and choose the titan that doesnt care about them, but now times are changing AEW, Impact, NWA, NJPW and all the smaller shows out there are paying more than they ever did, AEW and Impact get 'it' let the guys and gals be creative, WWE just wants the commodity under lock and key, shushed away from taking money off them elsewhere only to release them at a later date once that initial fire they had has died off, only they can't do it anymore and get away with it, times have changed and WWE are no longer in the same position, wrestlers and fans see through their chit
Taking talent from competitors then burying that talent has been Vince's business model since he took over the company from his dad.
@Jeff if you believe vince is selling I think you need to think again... just because a few gossip sites say it is doesn’t mean it’s true
Bro u are the best love what u said
@Jeff go watch raw jeff😢🤣
@@dansilva4434 stop being a mark there is alot of examples around, Samoa joe , ricochet, tommy end, all of the womens division and they say it's a revolution etc
this was awesome
Huge props to Tommy. Loads of thought and maturity shown in this interview. The sheer amount of professionalism he has in his pinky finger is astounding. That's how business is handled.
WWE is dying a slow sad death, everything began when they went “public”.
Yea & All The Ex Employees Exposing Everything Wrong & Stops WWEs Growth. Lol Its So Funny Seeing Everybody Leave Because I Stopped Hell In The Cell 2019 With That Fiend Match. WWE Started Their Death That PPV
Only smarks with a warped internet philosophy think WWE is dying. Tell your mom or anyone and give them an example of a business “dying” and tell them that they have made record profit. They’ll laugh in your face.
@@kamfisher1714 Man, the ratings keep going down every week. This is not a smart mark situation. Fans are walking away from WWE. We can argue about why but don't pretend like it isn't happening.
No attitude. Pg on that level. Look around the world vinnie makarol. Shit is tough. Triple h to run WWE-F . 🎶 Come wit it now🎤🎶
@@perceivedvelocity9914 fans are walking away from wrestling in general not just wwe.
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy f**king End! Loving the Behemoth t-shirt as well
He earned my respect. It sad when you give your all to the company to prove yourself, and it doesn't work out. He's an example of humbleness, hard work, and a professional athlete. 👏👏
I appreciate Renee given him the forum to speak of his experiences...it seemed therapeutic in nature. He will ultimately shine even more under different circumstances.
The part that really stuck out to me was when he said that when there was a week without a vignette it made the viewers lose trust in it. That's exactly how I felt. The vignettes were fantastic and did a great job at setting up this character, but I had this feeling that something was going to go wrong. When there wasn't a vignette, it felt like WWE was going to lose interest in Aleister before he could fully show off this new aspect to his character, and this was unfortunately correct.
Can't wait to see him rebound. 7 months sitting on your a**. That must've so depressing.
Basically same thing Paul Wight was saying
Much respect
The matches with He and Murphy were fantastic! I've been watching wrestling for 35 years now steady and you Tommy will Excell wherever you go because you care! Hard work does pay off, just not with WWE. Best of luck brother, I'm excited to see you when you arrive at your new home...wherever it is.
He'd fit well in the Dark Order to change them...into the Darkest Order.
As Dark Father, and make them a heel group again
WWE's loss in talent of this caliber is AEW's gain. They'll pay him well, let him do his own shit, and not get mad if he decides to do a podcast on his own time.
Sounds like WCW 2.0
Don’t you love when people down AEW because they’re worried it’ll be the death of that pg company 🤔
I'd love to see him in AEW I believe it would be best fit with his main event talent!
@@kamfisher1714 Nah
AEW will waste him as well. They lost the plot a while ago. They need a proper Booker because it's just not interesting week to week.
You're just so good, talented, dedicated... Good luck with wherever you go next, a lot of eyes will follow.
Hes the realest dude out there. Glad there's still people like this
if wwe doesnt kill you entirely, it DOES make you stronger. i cant wait to see him fight luchasaurus!
My god imagine the pop if Tommy End turns up after the lights go out and hits Omega with a black mass....
Dude is such an amazing professional with a drive to succeed. And he just happens to be a great wrestler too. How do you just let that kind of guy go? At the very least, I'm glad he's at peace and understanding of everything. Tommy has a bright, bright future wherever else he decides to go.
I'm still here. Amen brother Tommy. I really needed to hear that. Where ever you land they can count on me being a viewer.
Cause Vince McMahon probably has CTE from all the unprotected head shots he has taken. On the warrior a&E biography, Vince was asked if thought of warrior like a son. His response was, “well I only have one son”. Like he didn’t understand the question.
I wished he would've finished answering and said "Hunter"
@@shindean Actually Nick Khan has took his place
@@jorywea78 nobody takes Vince place, and nobody else is to blame. No matter what Khan says, Vince would easily override it if he cared. Hence why you're looking at this interview now.
@@shindean Nick is making Vince money and whispering sweet nothings in his ear. The day Nick doesn’t make Vince money is the day he gets shit canned. And Vince will need that money if the DOJ goes after Linda. Oh yeah BTW Linda’s super pac helped fund January 6th attempt to overthrow the government. But Joe Biden doesn’t have balls to do that.
@@shindean yes that is correct
I will say his Money in the Bank 2020 qualifying match against Austin Theory was awesome. Especially when Zelina Vega confronts "Aleistar Black" outside the ring.
kzhead.info/sun/qtKtmLOgsZuDgJ8/bejne.html
This man has a gift.
Tommy gonna be a great star! Keep grinding
Speaking solely on my behalf based on my preferences regarding professional wrestling, Black has all the earmarks of a top guy. A snug, exciting in-ring style; a unique and captivating entrance, look, and presentation; and compelling promo work. (Yes, cerebral promos can be just as good as funny, zany, million-words-a-minute tirades a lá The Rock.) It’s a pity Vince has bungled so much impressive talent over the years, including Black. In my opinion, Black was ruined when he and Ricochet were called up to the main roster and put together into a tag team. Pairing a mysterious, macabre character like Black with a high-flying babyface killed Black’s mystique and demonstrated creative had zilch for him. It was the equivalent of debuting the Undertaker as Rey Mysterio’s tag partner.
This is only the beginning of the End
I'm hesitant to speak with confidence about people (especially celebrities) that I don't know or whom I've never met, but Tommy End seems like a fantastic person with an amazing outlook on life.
I am glad he is in good spirits about that and his situation
AEW sign this guy we all know his ring performance that black mass one of the best move I ever witnessed , wwe is a shit never give the fans what they want..... If this guy makes to AEW he will literally be a legend....
Yeah dude black Mass that move is ❤️❤️❤️
Renee with the hot shoot interview Podcast! This is hot stuff!
This is an interview I would enjoy if more was released. His character was intriguing.
Here we are a few months later and Malakai Black.is All Elite Happy for Tommy
Just hoping to see Tommy vs Pac soon
Damn that match would be so 🔥 5 Star Classic right there. The Bastard Pac vs Tommy End. Wooooooooo
This is a perfect example of Vince not having a clue anymore, this dude could’ve been huge! And they find a way to screw it up 🤷🏽 what the hell! Where ever he goes if they have sense “they’ll push him to the moon 🌙
Theres alot of reasons why im a huge fan of this guy. But after viewing his past interviews, the channel he has with Thea, and his twitches man he is just one of the most humble and professional guys it seem like youll ever meet. Best of both worlds. One of the most talented men to hit the ring, and one of the most well put together and articulated people as well. Ive been saying they dropped the ball with him but wherever he goes he's going to be a star. 🙏🏾
GOAT of a person. Hopefully he comes back stronger !