"Panicked" - Study Showing No Racial Bias in Police Shootings Almost Cost Harvard Professor His Job
Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana are joined by economic and Harvard University professor Roland Fryer as they discuss the left's response to Roland's study that shows there's no racial bias in police shootings.
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Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists." - Thomas Sowell
Racism is everywhere, in every culture, in every race. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be, but human beings are inclined to resonate with their own. There are much worse things on this planet in 2024 than racism. My goodness, child trafficking?
Adam vs black on show. Always black saying these things, where is jew against gaza war
And Derek Chauvin
It’s alive & well but it’s getting better. it will be many generations before it’s gone, just human nature.
We are not a people.that live on balance. We swing that pendulum hard to one side or the other. Could it be that racism is still live and that it is also getting better. Could it also be that some bias exist but not the majority. I cannot accept that there is no bias, because I am Black and I have black friends and WE have internalized bias. I do not believe that every white cop is out to get me.
File this under 'Guests You Won't See on CNN or MSNBC'.
If they are, they will never be allowed to a to actually make a point.
😅 funny but also kinda sad & scary 🙏
Is this for $500 Alex?
Also file under: “Guests Not Allowed Back On CNN and MSNBC.”
I swear. Despite the fact that he ACTUALLY did the research
I didn’t believe him until I read the study. It was so profound, I passed it around to my fellow black colleagues in academia and I was yelled at. The truth will always get you in trouble
So you expect that study to show it and for them to admit those shooting had an anti-black racist bent? BEARy disappointed. Trayvon Martin would be disappointed, as well as Mike Brown, Bothem Jean, but wait... they got killed. I have family in law enforcement. The anti-black racism is there. Unless you police in the Middle of Iowa.
Did you show them the portion that admitted racial bias from lower level offenses by cops... or just the shooting part where judges get to decide during discovery what evidence is allowed and what isn't?
@@CharlesBoyd-tb3gkit has nothing to with "admitting"...it is simply an analysis of data. It's amazing that people can't talk about this without trying to attribute some kind of agency to the facts.
There's still systemic racism within the judicial system and people in power. They can choose withhold information or only show specifics.
There's a professor I worked with at college and I volunteered in one of the experiments his RAs were conducting, to us the results made perfect sense, using behavior you can tell the race, gender, age, etc. about people without knowing anything about them personally. The research was purely on behavior in using a computer. How fast you type, how many mistakes you make, things like that. And the conclusions were undebatable. Yet they were all terrified of publishing the results because a lot of woke people were offended by the fact you have demonstrable differences between people based on all those attributes
“Redid it-To make sure!” People can’t HANDLE THE TRUTH!
More scholars should try to replicate their statistical results from scratch, regardless of the specific topic at hand.
If you’re speaking the truth, you get fired, canceled, punished!
Has he spoken the Truth? Prove it BEARby.
You can check this guys history to see why he got suspended. The funny thing about it, he blamed it on r@cism. 😂
@@Geewasrightfor real???
@@Pothos007 - Absolutely. He got caught S H@rassing his employees. There’s texts and everything. He tried to blame it on r@acism. Don’t believe me, look him up.
@@Pothos007 - Absolutely. Look it up.
I'm a retired police officer of 27 yrs. I shared the same revelation he had. This social engineering is amazing when you wake up from the experiment.
In all 27 of those years How many times did you cover or watch somebody else cover for a bad cop? And then do nothing about it?
Thank you for protecting us.
@@PhuccinAyeelol.
@@PhuccinAyee How many times in your life have you assumed other people do evil things just so you can feel better about yourself.
@@bovineknievel410 obviously he/she isn't answering. Being more loyal to an idealology than your fellow human being is the bias that goes overlooked. Which was the point also found in the study.
Breaks my heart that we've sunk to a place where truth is not applauded.😢
But truth is not applauded
Not merely "truth" but what ought to be a WELCOMED truth!! What sort of person regards the good news that police are not hunting black males as unwelcome information? Consider that for a moment. What sort of person reacts to the good news that things are not as bad as they have been told as terrible news?
This has been debunked
@@DuckShampoo Really? The analysis of HIS data set? The SAME data set, using the same methodology has been "debunked"?? By whom? When? Where? I can fully appreciate a study that draws a different conclusion by drawing on a different data set or that relied on different statistical methods. What I'm asking specifically is whether HIS study and methods were debunked.
@@neologian1783 his study was done in 2016, it wasn’t a full study when NYT did an article meaning it wasn’t peer reviewed, since then Knox, Lowe and Mummolo (2019) did a study finding it under estimates racial bias. Then in 2018, Ros et. al did a study trying to duplicate his study, it wasn’t successful
Think about where our society is with this a large number of people are upset if something very negative is proven to be untrue. In a normal world, this would be considered good news.
Because they're misleading with a headline. The study found bias at lower level incidents. Which they don't focus on. But happen more often than shootings. End Qualified Immunity.
Consider this axiom in the context of the alleged holocaust. You'd think they'd be relieved to learn it never happened, but they get really upset. Don't mess with the grift is the lesson.
Are you talking about white people and CRT 😂😂
Look at how much money the BLaM got, look where the $ went and look at that organization today. The narrative is a gravy train for many so they want it to keep going.
If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger leftists, tell them the truth.
Trumps been lying to conservatives for 8 years and they love him!
Hahahaha good one Frankie!!
Basicly male and female
Shut the hell up!!! Both the left and right are full of bullshit!!! They all lie!!!! And yes, there is racial bias as it pertains to police shootings!!!!!!
@@YoKZhead11agreed. Too many people believe "facts" are subjective. The facts are the facts regardless of anyone's emotions or feelings on the matter. Some people can't seem to get a grasp on that. The smoke & mirror mind games coming from the left aren't doing anyone any favors while navigating through all the BS in pursuit of truth. It's truly insane that certain people choose not to see it for what it is though. I'm sure they'll be disappointed once they realize how much they've been lied to.
Imagine if our politicians had this level of integrity....
There are actually a lot of great academics like this. Academia has very few upsides...it's extremely competitive, extremely difficult, and doesn't pay well. A lot of us that make it really do care about the truth (I am a mathematician). The stuff going on in the humanities is an exception in my opinion. I am happy with the math academic community by and large. A lot of folks throw out the baby with the bath water and think the academy is garbage. It's really not.
@geometerfpv2804 Although true, your response had nothing to do with my statement. Prove you're not a bott! lol.
@@geometerfpv2804 Case in point. Math is racist according to the state of Washington and Oregon. Its not mathematicians that are saying that.
Imagine if the Activists Legacy Media had integrity... 💔
@@geometerfpv2804 Anything STEM is conservative filled. But "everybody" should be able to go to college..... and most people could not survive a real, college level calculus class (my degree is from Purdue - I took all the math and physics to be an engineer, before transfering to Criminology, and no longer had to actually buy or read the text books to get good grades) - so the majority of people now going to college are taking classes that simply indoctrinate them. When I was at Purdue from '78-'83 my sociology and psychology teachers would have thrown fits at the results of Roland Fryer's research. I agree with you that in fields such as math, there are honest professors, but in basically all non-STEM fields, there are 99% leftists.
People are less interested in fixing the problems and far more concerned about the optics of "fixing" the problems.
Fixing it would require Ending Qualified Immunity. Which nobody on any podcast or radio/TV show ever talks about because they don't want to be a target.
The apparent problems aren't supposed to get fixed, their purpose is to divide a people.
Western society values recognition in this era. The number of people without food or shelter is pretty small. You have food, you have shelter, you have technology so now you just need to feel special. Shout victimhood and claim your prize!
@@CharlesBoyd-tb3gkthe issue is not with the police bud.
@@peterwickham9984 You're spot on! Part of the problem lies with societal norms which completely changed after jim crow era. The government exacerbated the problem by incentvising reliance on the government (this being just one example). This generated a litany of new issues that created its own disparities. Obviously, politicians realized they could weaponize these issues and align them with moral virtue, creating a dichotomy which doesn't encourage open dialog, but division. It's not necessarily about food or shelter. That is a class problem, one we should have, but is an entirely different conversation.
The late Rod Serling said it over 60 years ago when he said, "Logic is the enemy and the truth is a menace." So true today. Sad but so true.
The left ain’t trying to hear that shit
Can't ruin the grift bro!!
@@xavierb9061Haha you stupid.
@@SilkyJohnson7 What Grift? Prove it.
He'll be going to prison for an unspecified amount of time without being charged.
@@thenaughtybearDon't even acknowledge that comment. There are people who come here specifically to provoke you to get yourself thrown off of KZhead.
If reporting the truth requires bravery, then we are surrounded by cowards. Stay based!
That is the number one issue. Cowardice. The real men and women are few and far between
Telling the truth has always been brave. Most people live in a comfortable delusion. Madness of crowds.
Reporting the truth requires bravery - not because we are surrounded by cowards. It requires bravery because colleg professors like Roland Fryer are surrounded by BLM and ANTIFA activists, who hold all the reigns of power and paychecks in academia.
@@TeranRealtor But if we were not surrounded by cowards these extremists wouldn't have any power. Parents are culpable too. They are still blindingly sending their kids to these indoctrination centers. One I know, just sent their daughter to Columbia having 0 idea what is going on in NY now.
Love seeing Roland everywhere right now! The man deserves every platform that there is. Thanks for having him on guys
I worked in law enforcement. I always knew this was the case. Love seeing this conversation.
Protect this man at all costs!!!
the study was done years ago. He's now just talking about the reaction to it all.
shut up ffs its been years and he wrote about something he never saved a baby falling from a fire 10 stories high fool
@@cchavezjr7and?
Protect his female employees from him. That’s why he was suspended 🤣
Hmmm no. Even if someone is an outright abuser, they are never brought to punishment UNTIL they stop being buddy buddy with the powers that be. Look at ep steed. He got caught. Got a slap on the wrist until new guys got into power. Then he got the book thrown at him. @@Geewasright
This story reminds me of a Canadian study I heard reported on back in 1980, it looked to prove the propaganda line that “smokers cost the Canadian government more money, for healthcare, than non-smokers.” But the study found that smokers actually didn’t run up higher healthcare costs, as they tend to die younger, and most of the cost in the Canadian system went to caring for the elderly for the last few years of their life. Not surprisingly the results weren’t welcome, as they study was done to justify further increasing taxes of tobacco, and the day after hearing that report the study literally disappeared and never heard of again.
There was a similar study in the US with the same conclusions
Well in an episode of Yes Prime Minister The Smoking Ban..Sir Humphrey reached the exact same conclusion
Worse is that new carbon tax😂😅😢
I remember that study. They didn't just look at health care costs of smokers vs nonsmokers (which, yes, were lower over a lifetime for smokers). They also looked at cumulative taxes paid on tobacco products. When those taxes are factored in, they found that smokers subsidize health care for nonsmokers.
@@girlwriteswhat Karen Straughn! I love you and miss your integrity and honesty.
The swamp is deeper than anyone imagined
One of the last true professors. In college I found out when you write a paper you don't go looking for the results you want. You write the results that came from looking for the facts. They need to teach that in high school or elementary.
There are still an enormous number of great professors...I wish people would stop generalizing with this. I am an academic in mathematics, and profs in this field are obsessed with the truth. The humanities does not make up the majority of research dollars at any research university. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Academia is extremely competitive, has bad pay, and is extremely difficult. People are typically attracted to it only because of their obsession with the truth, and this has been commensurate with my experiences. Yes, there is something nutty going on in the social sciences...but that's just one college in a larger university. The physics research is great. Engineering is great. Materials science and chemistry are great. Computer science is great. Even the biology is great...so how do you figure there are no good professors left?
@@geometerfpv2804 Have you seen interviews with Harvard and MIT professor of atmospheric physics, Dr. Robert Lindzen? He refutes the crimeate scam but told his students not to go into the crimeate science field since they will be unemployed if they pursue true science.
That's not true. A true researcher uses BOTH inductive AND deductive reasoning. I say this as a professor. As long as your metrics consider all the relevant truth/facts, there should be no issue.
It doesn't seem real. This is proof that they don't want to hear the truth or facts.
It's not Truth or Facts?
@@thenaughtybear Why must you deny reality? Like 2+2=5 in your reality.
Can you admit trickle down economics doesn’t work to create a middle class? I wonder if PBD would admit that because that is a fact
@@mattyjay8896 Prove it.
@@Pothos007Trickle down economics is a non existent theory. No one has ever advocated for “trickle down” economics. Look it up.
"I have an attitude that if you tell me I can't do something I will show you I can" He just nailed the #1 recipe for success. One can't lose with that attitude
What bothers me the most, is how much push back he got from other professors, etc. The message is the same, don't go against the lies they've been trying to shove in everyone's faces. How many other things have not come out and hidden? Thank God for this brave man to go against mainstream and show the actual truth.
A lot of cover ups in evolutionary and geologic data too.
This man deserves ENORMOUS praise. Wow. Incredible courage and integrity. Thank you, sir!
It shouldn't be this hard to report the truth. And someone's life should never be in danger for doing it either.
The left doesn't punish you for being wrong. It punishes you for being right.
Its a huge shame that it takes courage to report or tell the truth in today's woke America.
Remember Germany 😂😂
Look up selection bias, this study has been debunked
This guy is what a college professor is supposed to be. Objective, intellectual and willing to stand up to the status quo.
Everyone wants to get rid of racism but, if you do a study and it shows no racism shouldn’t you be happy? That just goes to show they don’t want the division to end as it is very profitable to the ones pushing it.
Divide to conquer
Wow unbelievable . This is sad, we cannot even deal with data
Something similar happened to Thomas Sowell, imagine how many more people have been silence over the years that we'll never know about. This race division has been kept alive for a long time by people with interests
When did something similar happen to Thomas Sowell? At what institution?
Thomas Sowell got suspended for S h@rasssing his employees too? Did he admit to it like Roland?
Hard to fine men like this professor, a man who sees with his eye, hears with his ears, investigates and comes up with the truth. Keep up the awesome hard work you are doing sir! Enjoyed listening to you!
It's more common than you probably think in research universities. In the STEM fields, everyone is obsessed with the truth. People let the humanities speak for all of us which is crazy considering the vast majority of research dollars are spent in STEM.
Fine? Find!
Love this PBD…..no Adam is a huge bonus
Trust the science!!!!! Right?!
Lol man reads 104 pages in 4 minutes. Guinness World Records, take note 😂
Beautiful man, strength in truth.
Imagine needing police protection for publishing a paper in economics.
The word rasist means nothing to me anymore.
that's good because "rasist" isn't an actual word.
@@carpenjk I deliberately did that so the KZhead bots don't complain about it.
@@Particle_Ghostoh! Well touché!
You love that just like anti-semitism
@@Particle_Ghostthink I’m gonna start doing that.
Could you imagine what the push back would be if this professor was white
There is already pushback now. The lefties dont accept his findings. Next they will call him uncle or something.
Dude. They tried to end his career. They tried to take his tenure. They have never ever done that ever. 😮. They shut down his research facility and suspended him for 2 years over nothing.
Now who is the racist. This is the problem with this country, this guy is making a point and all you care about is to score points. What would happen if he was white? Make him the president? What?
@@desmundlighten3603Canada did it to Jordan Peterson.
@@desmundlighten3603 - We both know that’s not true. He admitted to what he did.
My Heart sank hearing this Man say at 15 he walked out that Prison in Texas. My Father was not perfect but it sure makes me appreciate him more listening to his story! ❤❤❤
What a great discussion. So honest and free. We need more voices like this that acknowledge data and believe truth even if we have different viewpoints and preferences.
This man has what not everyone possesses, dignity
This guy is great. Lots of guts Great show Make my kids listen to it
One of the best interviews, that you’ve had in the last 12 months. And you had already set the bar pretty high, with past guest. I hope you guys have him back on again
You are absolutely a gentleman and a scholar,sir
No rational bias has cost this country!
Keep up the good work much love!
You can look at the FBI statistic and arrive at that conclusion yourself. Didn’t need a Harvard professor to publish it.
He didn't look at just FBI data, he did it at individual towns, cities and police units. He went much deeper into the analysis which he doesn't mention here, but in this study he found there was actual more high violence against whites.
He still said there was bias on non- lethal incidents. So it is still an issue.
I get your point. The basic data that's been out there does not support the pushed/popular narrative... On its face! I agree. This man went deep in his study, though. There is no doubt. Check it out.
@@peacehappyb237 Read the study. It's very interesting. He didn't even touch on everything in this interview
I appreciate the validity the Professor’s work brings to the subject. But we don’t need to read it to know that if zero grandmothers are shot by police versus a dozen young people, it doesn’t mean cops are biased against youth.
It’s sad that if you tell the truth you lose your livelihood. This is a man with a family where is the compassion for this man who stood on truth. It’s lunacy that people can’t take sound truths anymore. People would rather believe a lie 😮
One of the best attitudes a man can have has been expressed on this podcast. This man is brilliant and should be an example for all men walking in this life!!! Stand up, look in the mirror, figure out how to move forward, and don't let anyone or anyone's negative words make a difference in your path forward in life. I absolutely loved this podcast. Great work, PBD!!!!
Very educational, no matter what side of the aisle you are in.
Patrick, thank you for not being afraid to talking about the difficult issues, even if the conclusions aren't popular. Stay strong.
He’s one of the most down to earth professors I’ve ever heard!
True man of integrity... Very lacking in today's age..
Such a brilliant and brave man who demonstrated integrity in presenting his findings!!
No racial bias in shootings but what about in police brutality and unlawful arrests?
Thank you for following the facts and putting bais aside and for being brave enough to publish it.
He gets it.
Great content!
Thank you for this conversation.
“I’m in a big hurry to make a big difference” we all should be the same
Thanks for sharing this vital information
Great show, as always.
PBD and Roland are a couple of the most straightforward conversationalists I’ve ever heard
This is one of the best interviews you have done.
🙏 this man! He has a good soul. Through his experiences God gave strength to touch many more with his guidance in our darkest days. Thank you for having him and his message.
I honestly couldn't think of anything more demeaning and racist in my life than calling someone a Bipoc. Like WTH is that? It doesn't sound human. I'd be pissed if someone tried to call me such a thing.
What is it?
@@debbieharkness7661 I honestly don't know. I know the "poc" part is people of color, which I think is demeaning. They're human freakin beings for God's sake.
@@debbieharkness7661 Black Indigenous Person of Color
Welcome to America, Doctor. Thank you for your honesty and pursuit of the truth. Many others in your position would not have moved forward and that took courage. Respect
This guy is an amazing man ! Much respect for him and what he has accomplished. 👍👍
Thank you Roland for your unwavering honesty. Its more important now, than ever before, that we all stand in truth... even when it means standing alone.
I miss researchers like him. Truth regardless of how it lands.
This was an awesome interview. Can’t wait to watch the entire podcast!
Smaller government. Decentralized economics. Empowered individuals. What our future needs to be...
Look at the mirror or the window. A lot of young men need to hear that.
What an enlightening conversation, thank you both.
Thank you for having Roland Fryer on the show!
Think about how much fkn money they spent to find out the OBVIOUS and ALREADY PLAINLY VISIBLE reality. 8 full time employees twice, for a year.
Right, and they still found Bias at lower level incidents.
If you think something as abstract as bias is "obvious", you would make a terrible scientist.
If I could offer one minor critique…PBD, you should ask your questions in a more succinct way, then allow your guest(s) to answer. Otherwise, love the content
"I reject your reality and substitute my own" used to be a joke, now it's the _modus operandi_ for far too many people, often via the application of Maier's Law: "If the facts do not conform to the theory, they must be disposed of." Kudos to this guy for refusing to dispose of inconvenient facts.
One of the most powerful and intriguing interviews by PBD podcast. Thank you for sharing
@27:19 "Executive Coaching" sounds a lot like "re-education camp."
As a black Hispanic cop, who recently retire, it amazes me how the woke culture demonizes the police!! I was no longer Hispanic I was blue because I was a cop!! I am praying for all my brother and sisters in Law Enforcement!! Sad the way this country has fallen!! 🙏🏾 for the USA!!🇺🇸
In all fairness, cops around here wear blue wedding rings and have blue block tattoos. They see themselves as blue and the rest of us as other
@@goodolearkygal5746not all of us are that way! Sorry that some cops make you feel that way, but a lot of that is pride in being a cop and not excluding others
Bright man, pleasure listening to him and his research
Excellent guest. This prof knows what he's about. 👏
Democrats and a lot of the Black Community don't want Racism to go away. Despite them telling you otherwise.
It’s not “a lot”. The number of black people benefiting financially from this mess is infinitesimal. I hate to make an argument from authority but your assertion is just ridiculous.
@@willpower3317even if a small amount of black people directly benefit financially from this, that does not mean that a large part of the black people who don't benefit financially, want racism to go away. There are a lot of non-financial benefits to hide behind racism. Not taking accountability for ones actions is a great reason to want racism to stay. He also wasn't making a scientific argument when he said "a lot". To put it in a different way....there are a tiny minority of black people speaking out against this false narrative so that does in fact prove his point
I can guarantee, I probably disagree with 90% of the things this guy believes. Also guaranteed, I've got mad respect for him for having some damn ethics! Good on you professor.
What makes you think you disagree ?
@@desmundlighten3603 liberal Harvard professor? Yeah, it's a safe assumption he and I see the world quite differently.....
What makes you think he has ethics? He admitted to S h@rassing his employees. If he weren’t pushing your right wing agenda you’d be calling him a DEI hire like every other bl@ck person who outperformed you.
@@jackakhanregarding what?
There is no bottom, we keep on going on doing the right things. Telling the truth no matter what. Thank you!
Good for you. Truth will set us all free.
Did PBD stop interviewing guests who disagree w/ him? They do unveil his ignorance: he usually retreats to telling his personal story as a reason everyone should believe what he believes. When that goes nowhere, he insults the guests.
This is a good example of a guest that disagrees with him on many things, and he had plenty of room to speak...
Imagine if he went on the view, nobody would believe him, and they would just all gang up on him. How dare you say black people arent mistreated by cops, you must have been co opted by the right, Sonny would say.
The study did find bias. At lower incidents. They skip over that part to have people focus on shootings.
That's not what the study said ! Use your limited reading skills and try again! You are the prime example of someone who doesn't think for themselves and just takes in info that supports their narrative! The study did find bias!
@@sevensages5279did the study take into account the ultra high murder rates by that demographic as well or are you just supporting your laughable narrative?
They would call him a white supremacist
This was by far my favorite podcast, he explained the reason for affirmative action and dei so well.
Great hearing conversations like this
I will sit in ANY class this professor teaches! What an unbelievably brilliant man! And yet, so down to earth. A person could learn SO MUCH from him.
Is this guy saying his life was in danger due to a paper from Harvard?!?!🧢🧢🧢
He has to say that to be a right wing super star.
I'm not sure if he is lying, but I do believe he might have a target on his back for not towing the line. And since he is black, this is especially alarming. Like Malcolm said the biggest threat to the status quo establishment is the free-thinking brother.
That dude is lying. Wasn't no one after dude. It makes White people in awe.
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercats You do know blacks and arabs were the original and majority slaveowners in Africa eg Dahomey Kingdom modern day Benin
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercatssure because it's popular to be a black conservative. Your family will love you so much. The truth scares the liberal elite because they know that if the truth is revealed, their grift, power and control are over
Impressive man!! Great interview 👍
It's much easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled.
Roland is the type of impressive person that should pop in your mind when you think of an Ivy League school like Harvard. Unfortunately they've gone in a different direction.
Seen that Joe Rogan episode, where the researcher was ostracized because she asked questions about trans therapies for children.
Good for you and thanks for your work.
Fascinating interview.
I'm a firm believer that racism was created by politics and is continuously promoted by government that isn't just about blacks and whites. Example is when the British military landed here and started taking the different Indian tribes lands they had no right to do while telling settler's Indians are their enemies, needs to be elemenated or controlled, put in reservations, etc. Forcing their desires and themselves upon people who didn't want it. Sound familiar? Looking at history this method has been used and modified throughout its entirety by ALL who had powers and governments! This is why our forefathers did what they felt would stop this when creating America and many other things they knew about that the people didn't. Ever wonder why they wrote the Constitution the way they did...