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TAYLOR SWIFT - THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT / 2024 / REPUBLIC / POP, SINGER-SONGWRITER
CLIFFHANGER/10
Y'all know this is just my opinion, right?
If Taylor would have dropped this album in the 1830s but without all the racists you would have given it a 10
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. Unfortunately it's an adult fantasy on par with Tolkien's works
If there's one 'cartoon' out there that's not aimed at kids and where your diss is not at all applicable it's the one on his profile pic@@PresidentKamalaHarris.
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. What the sigma
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.are you a man or a woman?
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.his profile picture is guts from berserk. One of the best manga of all time. Your embarrassing yourself
We got Taylor Swift saying Fortnite, Grand Theft Auto and Down Bad before GTA 6
Where did she say Fortnite 💀 too lazy to check
She I also heard she mentioned Sigourney Weaver and Alien. Like bruh
@JorgeGomez-hx5uu first song is called Fortnight close enough 💀💀💀
Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto 6
i would rather get a good album
She needs to stop working with jack antinoff and work with metro boomin for her next album
Taylor needs to get into trap frfr. Maybe Drake get tap her into the beef against Kendrick or Kanye
she needs to drop a collab album with 21 savage imo
H&V Taylor’s version
@@dutdut2.091what?
@@realtwovo she's already the biggest hip hop artist
“There’s a difference between enjoying Taylor's albums for their music and their performances and their narratives, or enjoying them because you're deeply entrenched in the Taylor-verse and your obsessively combing through the lyrics on each song like the convoluted plot of the 30th marvel sequel” Bingo
And the Taylor-verse was a marketing tactic deliberately cultivated. It goes to show you how the corporate music industry compromises authenticity for marketability.
This is literally where I am as the husband of a day-one Swiftie (although in her defense she's feeling the degradation in musicality too)
I think this is a large part of her appeal. And i think thats why theres such a divide between what her fans think of her and what the rest of us think.
as a swiftie, that hit hard
called me tf out but i agreed lmao
I have nothing against Taylor or her fans but I want her to make a rap album just to see how far her fans will defend her
Been asking for a full rock album lmaooo mabye a taylor swift nu metal album would really push boundaries 🤣
@@insertname941 Crunkcore
The tortured rappers department
@@insertname941A Taylor Swift rock album would slap. She’s had some good rock inspired songs over the years.
@@insertname941 with her vocal range? How?
Charlie Puth should not be a bigger artist
Charlie Pooth
who?
Charlie Puth has a track with 1.5 Billion views, he barely could be a bigger artist, what is Taylor smoking?😮
Duh, that line is ironic. Unless ur joking
she's saying the truth. Charlie should at least be able to sell stadiums
My problem with Taylor is that her older music is written better and more mature than everything she releases now.
the thing is, she is so up and down. red and 1989 were really good but then she made reputation and lover which did not measure up. folklore and evermore came after those, which is where she peaked creatively imo, both were great but now these last two albums aren’t nearly as good. i mean poets is especially awful and feels even more regressive than midnights
players gonna play play play play and haters gonna hate hate hate hate
@@yue_river I was expecting Folklore and Evermore for TTPD but instead it was a long run on sentence and word vomit.
@@lilyyang6252 i knew not to expect anything like that when i saw the tracklist tbh even the names of the songs were corny to me. what is a song named “down bad”, “loml” or “i can fix him no really i can” doing on an album you named tortured poets department?
Her music in general lacks self-awareness. She doesn't know who she is. She also doesn't know her power, nor does she know her weaknesses. She hasn't actually been tested enough to figure it out. All her music is just her whining without actually fixing her problems🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Melon about to get death threats from millions of people who hate seasoned food.
That joke isn’t even based on any truth at all.
@@PlannedObsolescenceimma keep it real. You sound like a child who is losing a roast battle with this comment
@@jackdisbury1047 For real! Sis really tried the "nuh uh"
@@scottbuck1572 I'm female. And I'm sorry you both feel that way.
@@PlannedObsolescence That explains it lmfao. Imagine getting in your feelings beause not everyone has the same unhealthy obsession with a billionaire that you do
The Tortured Listeners Department
Nope I liked it
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.bro what is your channel name 😭
Easy but a good pun
@@theboi5584stay on topic. The review is garbage
@@theboi5584I’m a woman
Wow without a low rating we'll never get to find out Anthony's home address now
Good one
Yooo dolan
This guy I love this guy. If you put a panda in your next weekly slop I will just die
thanks for slopping by
Not creepy at all
Anthony after pissing off Kanye fans and Swifties in the same year: *I'm playing on both sides so that I will always come out on top*
It's not that hard to achieve it though. Both are becoming more mediocre than ever, but their fans will massacre you if you tell them so.
@@Rodrigombia1990 Not to mention Kanye West being all anti-Semitic back in late 2022... as well as the Donda Academy shit.
@@crazyluigi6664donda academy will be kanye's diddy-level scandal
As a swiftie, I adore the always sunny reference. Top tier comment
Great point about this album feeling like a 30th marvel sequel. As a Taylor fan but not a marvel fan this really helped me understand how regular people probably feel about this album and other taylor swift lore/works lately. Even as a fan I didn't love this album. If anything I caught myself trying to untangle who the songs are about because they were so dull on their own that i quickly switched to their pop-cultural value instead of their artistic value. it's a shame but taylor has a history of self correcting and i hope thats what she'll do after this album cycle. fingers crossed
It really is the perfect comparison. It's the Eternals of Taylor swift albums.
"If anything I caught myself trying to untangle who the songs are about because they were so dull on their own that i quickly switched to their pop-cultural value instead of their artistic value." Jesus lol that's rough. I'm glad I don't have this relationship with music.
Thanks for being honest.
I agree the songs are way more interesting for pop culture value than actual artistry
hey, if she does grow, hears, and processes what's being said about this album we might get another speak now album which would honestly be a serve
Anthony obviously didnt pick up the nuances in lyrics like “touch me while your bros play gta”
It's not his fault that was pretty subtle. Only the most tortured poets could have gotten it.
I want to know how much Taylor is getting for namedropping video games.
Let’s not pretend for a second that Anthony hasn’t been touched whilst his bros play gta
Go play your video games= flirting Touch me while your bros play GTA= harassing
Haven't heard the album. Explain to me why that's a bad lyric
A dude who's messed with Kanye West fans in 2024 has nothing to fear and nothing to lose from swifties
except he didn't give the album a score, so arguably he feels like he does (or he's trolling us alongside the swifties in the audience)
@@jan_kulawa he said FOREVER. That means 4/10
Having seen Barbs make deepfake p0rn of people, including teenagers as young as 13 who dislike Cardi, Swifties don't scare me. They're not on the higher level of evil that Barbs are.
@@jan_kulawa it's called a cliff hanger pookums
bro hes trashed taylor swifts albums in the past. stop making stuff up cause they fit your narrative.@@jan_kulawa
Can you remember amy winehouse? Her lyrics in conveying a story with subtle metaphors was unmatched, so succinct and beautiful a true poet
Amy Winehouse is an amazing singer and songwriter. I remember reading somewhere that Anthony wasn’t huge on her though :(
Please don’t compare her even as a songwriter to taylor. It ain’t fair. And as a singer/vocal talent…, like a slow person versus Copernicus trying to do math, dog
@@sethboooooi23245 Please tell me you're on Amy's side because I can't tell from your comment.
@@L0zza baffling comment to make if they're not on amy's side
I'd be excited to see her collaborate with someone other than Jack tbh.
For real
@@thembashawn Crazy to think he's worked on every Taylor album since 1989
@@icemic-ux2ip 7 albums!!! No wonder I'm starting to get tired of his sound - the fact that I enjoy the anthology more than ttpd speaks volumes (for me personally)
I loved what he did for her on Folklore, reputation, even lover and midnights, but this just fell short. It's the same sound and I don't think that's right for this album. I'm not saying hes a bad producer at all, I just think this album could have sounded more unique and different if it was someone new, The anthology is more liked because it's a breath of fresh air.
I mean Aaron Dressner produced about 10+ songs on the album so you kinda already have that 🤷♂️
Artists like Taylor Swift and Kanye West continue to push the boundaries of what a “fantano” review can be👍
lol the true are is not what they put out but what they inspire others to make in reaction
lmao
Yeah, umm...this is actually true.
Ye and Taylor in the same field. Talk about ironic poetry
Kanye is cloned though
Would’ve been a 10 if it was called to torture a poet
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.you’re the only one in the comments trying to defend this 😭
@@theboi5584how about you stop acting like a follower. This fantano guy isn’t going to date you
🙏🏻🤣🤣@@PresidentKamalaHarris.
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.you telling me to stop acting like a follower meanwhile you’re replying to every comment calling the album bad is hilarious
It would have been a 10 if it was actually called “Tortured Poets see Ghosts” 😪
Nobody this rich and famous will be immune to becoming a narcissist. She was bound to implode.
I cannot comprehend even staying active at this point in your career. If I released a project even close to 1989 I'd fall off the face of the earth. I've earned all the money both my family and I could ever need, at that point you're only releasing more music to feed your ego.
@@lukechitwood1247 I have never agreed with a response more. 200% nailed it. Pure facts. Any of Taylor's recent endeavors strike me as pure profiteering.
@@lukechitwood1247 i imagine its artistically satisfying lol
@brickalmonds3531 artistically...? Taylor Swift...? This is pop music for teen girls. It is not "art"
@@nogodsnomanagers honestly, the trainwreck that it inhabits is an art all its' own. i made up better songs on a whim when i was five, you almost have to be deliberate to fuck up this bad.
I didn’t know Taylor Swift released a new album (yes I might live under a rock) till I was watching the local news and for some reason they decided to use a clip of this video to talk about the public response to the album. The whiplash I got seeing your face on news was bizarre, so here I am!
Me neither and i literally look forward to her work. Guess i didn't miss anything tho
I like how Fantano is to scared to rate Taylor albums because he knows her fans are psychopaths
Actually, most of the discussion around this album has been about fair criticisms and disappointment from longtime fans. Unless you stay in Twitter hellholes... Look at how the vultures review turned out in comparison
her cultists*
fantano about to unite the most psychopatic-venn diagram crossover of kanye stans and swifties
nah, kanye fans are just as psychotic and he still went out of his way to shit on ye lmao. I think it’s cuz he might be reviewing the second part of the album (plus I don’t really think swifties check out for anthony that much, or at least not the crazy ones)
Was thinking the same thing he lacks the brass to stand on numerical business
Can we just acknowledge how much Cal’s been around as of late? It’s been nice to see him around, missed that silly little guy
I wanna see him start the intro once, “hello everyone internet’s busiest music nerd Cal here and-“
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. I do
I care so much! Cal is one of my favorite parts of Fantano’s videos. I’ve been a fan since 2013. @@PresidentKamalaHarris.
Really wish he'd get his own show so he could ditch toxic Mr. Foureyes over here
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.You cared enough to reply lol, and also reply to anyone who dares say anything negative about this album, are you just constantly refreshing the comments here cause you're so butthurt that people don't like the album. I mean you're really taking the whole parasocial thing to another level it could be bordering on psychotic. Maybe instead of caring so much about what literal strangers online think of an album you like, you could maybe I don't know go listen to the actual album that you seem to like so much, instead of sulking that not alot of people seem to be liking the album.
huge disappointment. poorly mastered/engineered, and sonically stagnant. i was hoping for SO much better but it’s like she’s trapped in some kind of blood oath with jack, which wouldn’t be so bad if they could artistically progress, but evidently they can’t. they both need to stop working together and trust that other collaborators may be able to help them make better art.
Dressner produced and co-wrote more songs than Antonoff on TTPD…..
It was actually Aaron dessner and I like the songs he did
@@Lulu-pi2qp I swear if she just released these as two separate albums at the same time people would have a completely different reaction and would probably be praising both. But even then “Jack’s” album is just as solid as “Dressner’s”. Which makes it even more baffling that people keep saying everything sounds the same because the two halves are nothing alike despite Dressner and Antonoff both contributing a few songs to the other’s portion to mix it up just enough
@@dsmith2420 I think cause they only listen to it once and probably in 1 sitting which is horrible to do. They need to give it another listen The more I listen to it the more I see how different they are. I personally like both , prefer Aaron’s based on folklore and evermore but I thought both were great in this album. My 10/10 are loml , so long London, guilty as sin, smallest man, black dog, how did it end , I hate it here, Chloe or Sam, the prophecy , Peter The rest are still pretty good . Very few that I skip currently. I’m enjoying this album so I don’t really care about the ppl who don’t like it , just curious. I’ve seen reactions where either lyrics just fly over their heads , or they don’t get what Taylor was doing in the song (who’s afraid of little old me etc). I feel like she painted the emotions she wanted to portray perfectly clear in her songs.
@@Lulu-pi2qp I understand the reaction because I had some similar thoughts after one time through. I’ve seen a lot of people say they can’t put their finger on this record and I couldn’t either at first but TTPD is a slow-burn, intentionally I believe. This isn’t meant to captivate you with production-she wants the lyrics to marinate over time to fully appreciate what she’s doing, hence the album title.
The Charlie Puth line is even more annoying to me knowing how big of a platform Taylor has and the massive opportunity to had to call out an actually under appreciated artist instead of.. Charlie puth
no, I think it might be even more annoying what stupid ass takes you people will come up with to criticize taylor
imagine dating a singer for 6 years, and when her new album comes out it's basically all about the racist dude she dated for 2 weeks immediately after you broke up
Do you wanna be associated with a bad album though? Lol
I doubt anyone maladjusted enough to willingly date this woman would be bothered by that fact.
From what I gather it’s less about the relationship, or him as a person, and more about the controversy
I don't really care about Matty but to be fair she has already written dozens of songs about Joe and being hung up on the guy you were in a situasionship with for two months is the most relatable thing ever
Who's the racist dude?
I saw the red flannel and immediately did the thing that flies do where they rub their hands together in a menacing way
So you just rubbed your hands menacingly
@randomsomeguy156 Yes, but like flies do
@@StopmotionStudios13spoken like a true tortured poet
You mean you sprinkled acid on your phone and then sucked the review through a straw on your face? Ahaha
Birdman?
i thought jack antonoff was a fake name middle schoolers came up with. like mike hawk, joe mama or candice.
Candice Nuts?
jack an ant off or whatever
Jack Hoff
The swifties are already starting with the "you're not intelligent enough to understand her lyrics" argument. dear god
I interpreted the tone differently than he did on a handful of songs (I thought who’s afraid of a little old me was satirical & sarcastic rather than narcissistic) and I thought the alchemy was a love song about Travis (it’s filled with football word plays), but I don’t think it’s an intelligence thing, I think we just have different interpretations! I do sometimes think people are less kind to female artists bc they’re unintentionally skewed my sexist stereotypes to think a woman is being narcissistic before she’s being sarcastic & making a joke, so I think there is some valid frustration from people in regards to that.
@@haleynicole5940this!! i think some young swifties do everyone a disservice by acting taylor is too genius for others. but at the same time there’s no way people really think taylor is being serious in most of the lyrics they critique. the title itself is mocking herself and her ex partner, the grand theft auto line is supposed to funny not sexy, and who’s afraid is clearly satire. i don’t understand why people think it’s more likely that she’s being dead serious when saying something obviously out of pocket than that she’s making fun of herself? she literally sounds on the verge of laughter in the gta line. this reminds me of when she put out blank space and people who didn’t like her were like she finally understands she’s crazy!! like.. how could u be more clear
its true
@@haleynicole5940stuff can be two things. And I think you’re right: people are harder on Swift because she’s making music predominately for other women. We have a history of not taking any female artists seriously that don’t play to the male gaze. With all that said: I don’t really buy into the “actually it’s satire” angle because if that’s the case-then it’s not compelling satire. There really isn’t much here that says anything that Swift hasn’t already said in her bother, arguably better, albums. Sure I think there are people who are dumping on this album because it’s Taylor Swift, but I think even people who are casually into her (like I am) are starting to get weary. Basically there’s a problem when you have to rely on “it’s bad on purpose” as a way to gain any meaning from this album.
They're like Trump supporters now.
TERRIBLE news for people who aren’t developmentally past high school relationships
😂👏🏼
She did once say that there’s a phrase “you stop maturing once you make it” and she admitted that because she made it as a teenager that has definitely affected her view point and her lifestyle.
nothing was high school about this album expect the song so high school
@@lavilacin8579 1. down bad 2. i can fix him no really i can 3. i can do it with a broken heart 3. my boy only breaks his favourite toys 4. but daddy i love him
Dudes def a virgin
“You wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me” … the christmas tree farm ??? 😭
I learned that many people don't know what figures of speech are. and you belong to that group of people
More like a metaphor for her household-bully troubles being like an asylum?
I snorted
That's the best you could get??? It's a metaphor for the music industry. Like everyone knows how toxic the music industry is💀💀
This is literally the best fucking comment, ever.
As a big Taylor fan I agree with every point. I was so disappointed. Even with the songs that are decent like loml have a weird cringy lyric inserted in there like “Mr. Steal your girl” that completely takes me out of it. Folklore and evermore are my favorites from her and I keep going back to them time and time again. I’m worried at this point that her fantastic writing in those records were an anomaly for that point in her career.
Red is one her best albums while I don’t like 1989 and Reputation. Her music is hit or miss, not steadily declining.
@@blackishboi3895 I agree! I actually love 1989 and think it’s a nearly perfect pop album. Folklore and Evermore were a culmination of all the good parts of her previous albums and sounded mature and fresh. I think the quality has been declining ever since with Midnights and TTPD in my opinion.
I'm a swiftie and i agreed with a lot of the points you made. I think the problem is how rewarded she is for exploring her personal lofe, if people valued the art more than the gossip that would be the focus
Yup
Not giving this a rating was smart because it means all the swifties have to actually listen to the video and formulate a coherent argument
there can’t be any argument for this one it’s awful
Which they cannot.
He did rate it on pt.2
I still wouldn't hold my breath
“If I was this lacking in new fresh ideas, I would be paranoid too” damn Anthony is more of a poet than Taylor
Sounds like a Drake subliminal
Great comment and wonderful profile picture of "The Velvet Underground & Nico"
Anthony wow 😂😂😂
I feel like Taylor is living every artist's dream. No matter what she puts out, she's built such a huge fandom, that it's gonna be a success and people are gonna be happy. What's a lukewarm 7/10 at best, for casual listeners, it's easily a 9/10 for a swiftie.
This is sadly true. I felt Midnights itself was pretty mid and have seen some people argue that that album winning AOTY at the grammys would lead to more subpar artistry from her….and this album shows that that was pretty much true. But yeah, no one dares to say otherwise for fear of the wrath of her fanbase
@@MrTentaclesHasAllTheTalent "No one dares to say otherwise for fear of the wrath of her fanbase" it's just not true... Many people HATED this album and they've been very vocal about it, reviews are mixed and she's getting less love and a lot more criticism than she did on midnights...
@@diarysawan that’s actually good to know that people are more critical. I guess I haven’t been seeing much of the critical reviews of late apart from this video
its a 9/11 for music
I think Taylor Swift fans are actually much more understanding than others, but they def do have a high perception of her. My english teacher is a huge swiftie and I was talking to her about it and telling her about how i didn't love it, but she said she listened to it all weekend and have been replaying every song. It's so strange how subjective music can be.
I am SO glad you mentioned the metaphor thing. I have been saying this since at least the 1989 vault tracks: interrupting one bad metaphor with another and then cutting in a random word you find pretty doesn't equate to good song writing
Totally agree, metaphor and reference made the success and the failure of her songs. recently. I saw people in some chinese music platforms criticizing her new releases being not catchy at all and fans were enthusiastically defending her that her lyrics required close study for all the reference and meanwhile blaming whoever post that comment illiterate and being poor at English....Oh cmon, you don't even need a degree to love a song like " beat it" because even kids will sing and dance along with the song😢
For most people, those mistakes get culled in the editing phase. But as others have said, this album felt rushed, underedited and underdeveloped.
When I was fifteEen, when it all began, have it ever crossed your mind and maybe you should run. I guess not because there you were standing like a lion ... 😂
@@jazzzebra2159 absolutely! They make or break her songs and definitely didn't help at all in this case. The argument that it's due to people being too dumb enough to get the music is so silly, glad that other's are annoyed with it too :)
@@lordfreerealestate8302 100% agree!
If Taylor Swift would have dissed Kendrick Lamar in "The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived", you would have given this album a 10
Not really! She couldn’t hold a candle to K Dot! Because Kendrick Lamar wouldn’t hold back
@@andresciahooten9598i bet you’re exciting at all the parties.
@@andresciahooten9598Kendrick don’t want the smoke with T Swizzle and her cult fans
@@atomicpunk2360he also just worked with her on the bad blood re-recording in oct 2023
average youtube replies not understanding a joke
It's like she discovered ChatGPT and asked it to rewrite her lyrics in Lana Del Rey's style
omg this is so true
maybe she has been taking the quackzine. she has lost some hormone or something.
come on!! only a few songs are like that! there are gems in the album too you know..
OMG I wrote about Chat GPT before reading your comment. It's so true though!! What a cringe-worthy mess of an album
The “while your bros play GTA” like reminds me of video games by Lana if it was genuinely re-written by ai
Thanks for the honest and inciteful review. It seems like some long-time Taylor fans just don't want to hurt her feelings or something because it's been hard to find true reactions to the actual material. As a newer and more mature (in age) Taylor fan, I also thought the same... that this album has very similar sounds to her last few albums. (even though I really did like folklore, evermore and Midnights) I'm thinking that maybe since she had said that "she'd written so much tortured poetry" in the last two years that she just needed to purge it all and then move on. Hopefully she'll take some time off after the finish of her tour and refresh and renew herself. I'm sure she truly needs that!
This is interesting to me, because I absolutely love this album. However there are some real real low points on it, sonically it’s not pushing any boundaries, there are some gosh awful lines and clunky metaphors. It’s these songs that I skip, but the songs I have whittled the album down too for me I really love. I think it’s fair for me to both really like the album and also find that there are a lot of criticisms I can levy towards it. That being said I personally cannot fathom how midnigjts was received so much better when in my opinion it’s far inferior, with way more surface level clunky writing , clearly geared towards getting virality ( minus a few songs that are objectively great and most of the 3am edition songs , Paris excluded because wtf was that song)
I'm sorry, why would Taylor need to constantly reinvent her sound when no other major artists do? Plus, she already made country, pop, and indie records and won major awards in all the genres, and yet you people still want more.
Taylor needs to stop working with Jack Antonoff 🗣️
You nailed my thoughts on this record. The first time listening through this I immediately thought, "Taylor and Jack are more friends than collaborators now... and he can't give her constructive criticism". This album is just so shockingly underbaked that I keep relistening to see if I missed something.
Yes, this distills my thoughts exactly. It's the actual break up that needs to happen.
Especially compared to the second disc, where she collaborated with Dessner mainly, and not Jack.
Yes but also the other way around where she apparantly hasn't once said "maybe midnights' 15 tracks of identical production were enough"
nah jack just sucks now
Yes this!! Said the same thing!!
I don't mind about her being so popular and succesful, but when I see grown women talk about her songwriting like she's fionna apple or something I really burn inside
Then again, maybe a singer who CAN'T SING shouldn't be popular and successful.
Or adrianne lenker
I mean, I think their songwriting does very different things. I didn’t like this album either, but I think both folklore and evermore are both 9s and albums like lover are just full of extremely well written pop tunes
she cunningly got her catalogue back on tiktok in time for this when others on the label remain banished
@@satelliteimagerymusicyeah Anthony giving evermore a light 7 is still a tragedy. It deserved a higher score. Her other albums are more rightfully criticized, but the folklore/evermore series is just solid folk/indie pop, where her lyrics are more clever than dumbed down direct references to things.
The new album is not creative as Taylor has been in past. She wrote some amazing melodies and catchy songs. I just listened to "Speak now", and "Fearless" - as well as other songs. She also needs to change the type of sad, slow songs about breaking up with guys and maybe start expand her thinking about other things that are going on in the world. I know its about her, but she needs to think about her fans.
With how successful her Eras tour has been so far and the success of all the albums she put out before that, despite the criticism on her personal life (private jet, Healy, and the NFL guy relationships), you'd think she'd pivot this album to a more fun one where her success in life would bleed through.
10:30 this is such a fascinating point. I’m honestly kind of amazed that after spending so much time re-recording her back catalog and later showcasing it on tour that she wouldn’t feel inspired to reincorporate some of those sounds into her new material.
But then she would be criticized for recycling old sounds? People don’t have to like TTPD but it literally is a compilation of different styles from her prior albums which is also the biggest criticism?
honestly, regardless of the quality of the songs themselves, the thing which frustrates me most with Swift atm is the complete disregard for the album format itself. since Billie Eilish announced she was releasing an album which had to be listened to as a cohesive body of work (gasp!! you mean.. an album?), i realised that the album format was in dire straits in the mainstream. 31 songs, with no interlude tracks, and hardly any instrumental moments within the tracks themselves, no apparent editing to create a cohesive story or soundscape - it reads as 31 stream opportunities rather than a 31-track record. it's frustrating to see someone who has genuine writing prowess put no effort into structuring a body of work and make it actually listenable. anyone who managed to listen to the full 31 songs in one go has my respect - i couldn't do it
I blame Drake
this has never been taylor’s mo though, so this doesnt come as a surprise. she has always prioritized sonic cohesion over a narrative arc in her albums, especially after red was criticized for being so sonically chaotic. i would argue that despite ttpd’s production pitfalls, of which there are many and some you mention, it is sonically cohesive. but every song of her’s is self contained with their own introduction, plot, conclusion. the only time she breaks this is on folklore. so i dont think this is a byproduct of the streaming era, i think its just taylor. some people dig it, some dont.
Why would you listen to it in full tho??? it's supposed to be a double album regardless of how it is released. Listen to the first part, carry on with your life, listen to the second part, and go live. Even as a fan, I will not sit down and listen to a 31-track album.
@@hannahx5821 sorry, i probably miscommunicated that. it deffo doesn't need to have a narrative arc, i was just listing things she could have done to make the double album feel like a listenable project instead of 31 streaming opportunities. i'm talking specifically about the full double album here, not the original edition. for the og, i'd agree - it isn't great, but it is sonically cohesive. my issue is that the 'double album' thing just feels like there was no mind to making it a fully listenable project, and that it was rather just 'i've written and completed all these songs, may as well release all of them since people will listen'. i looooove a double album, or just long albums in general, so i felt like it was quite a disservice to the format tbh, and at worst felt like a chart maximising tactic. all of that said, i have historically been a massive taylor fan for over 13 years now, so i am only getting this riled up because i believe in her abilities and want so badly to enjoy her output - any other pop artist, i'd probably just sigh
@@hannahx5821 i'd also agree that it has absolutely never been her mo to do interludes and whatnot, she has always focused more on the individual songs than the overall project (notable exceptions being 1989 and folklore, which are two of her best albums). i guess i just don't think that approach works when applied to a double album format, so to me it comes across as less of an artistic decision to work on and release a double album project, and more of a streaming grab
Hi, I just want to say how refreshing this review is! I’m a swiftie, but I agree with a lot of your points and I felt like this album was more empty and hollow than her previous albums. The way you articulated why this album was weak is exactly what I’ve been trying to pinpoint since it came out, so thank you! Your reviews are appreciated
The most sane Swiftie
@@franklingoodwin WE EXIST I PROMISE!!! Just overshadowed by the insane fans lol
@@CoolScratcherthis !! I hate the fact that saying I’m a swiftie means people immediately think I don’t like other music, I’ll die on the hill for her. I really like this album, but I hated midnigjts, and I also think there are a handful of objectively bad songs and examples of terrible writing on this album. There are some real highs but there are a lot of lows. All this to say critically minded swifties do exist , it’s just hard to find them
@@amydougies3852 I think that maybe part of your image problem is that you refer to yourselves as "Swifties". It gives unhinged obsession right out of the gate.
@@padawansound6423 if I’m a swiftie( as in a more than casual listener of Taylor swift, know the lore etc), I feel like it’s the only appropriate label ya know
I really hope she takes this criticism to heart and actually tried to improve because I've been a ts fan since I was a kid and my love for her reignited when she released folklore, and this is the first time I've been quite disappointed by an album that I was so excited for.
I love Taylor and I really admire this record but at the same time everything’s so overwhelming and underwhelming simultaneously. Upon first listen, I only liked three songs out of sixteen. Taylor, please fire Jack Antonoff and just relax when writing songs… your best work is made when you think you don’t have to prove anything to people. Loml, TSMWEL, and Guilty as Sin? (a Jack Antonoff collab but the production wasn’t too much) are the better songs in this album because it is straightforward lyrics-wise and has good instrumentals.
taylor needs to hide away in a cabin in the mountains alone for like a year, that's how we could truly see some musical genius and artistic evolution breed
Literally I suspected I’d like the Aaron songs more and I was right. That being sad black dog I adore and that’s an antanoff production. When he cooks he cooks, I just feel like he’s phoning it in a lot
@@amydougies3852That’s Jack? Didn’t realize that. That is the best song in the anthology IMHO. Absolutely exquisite. And I agree
@@carriefingsolomon righttt !! I can’t tell you how surprised I was to find that jack produced that song. I am a Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus being the best in the anthology person, but the black dog is a close second and such a highlight for Jack
@@amydougies3852 That’s an incredible song too!! Did he do Chloe as well or was that Aaron? I guess I could just Google this😂
It’s boring, not many songs are memorable. She should work with someone other than Jack Antonoff. After the final leg of her tour she should take a break. We don’t need a new album every two years…
Money making machine
I agree. Slow it down. I liked the fortnight song, but the others seemed a bit trite and melodramatic. And she’s happy now with Travis but these songs are about past guys. Kinda weird
@@JulieKnose78loml (loss of my life), guilty as sin, Who's Afraid of little old me, So long London & Clara Bow were amazing songs with amazing lyrics... Some of her best lyricism was showing cases in those songs with religious & death imageries... She always had a knack in painting a picture in her songs.
I got to track 3 and gave up!
6:55 "It is uncharacteristically sloppy for Taylor, in terms of songwriting execution." This is my biggest criticism about TTPD. I am a huge fan of Taylor Swift and I can see how this album is just weirdly bloated in all the wrong ways. Folklore and Evermore are much much better in subtle cleverness, especially with the storytelling contained within. Truly a fall from grace. She should serriously consider taking a break.
One of the most common critiques of her among even her fans (at least those with the capacity to see that she CAN do wrong) is that she has glaring quality control issues. It's like she doesn't know what's good or bad. She'll write some incredible poetry and then hilariously awful lines all within the same song (most popular example being Willow and the godforsaken 90s trend line).
@@FPSBuzzNo offense but I think she might have let the popularity gotten into her head, thinking that she can release any song and it doesn't matter if the quality's bad because she's too big to fail. Not that I think she should be taken off her pedestal a notch or two but it might be worth for her to actually sit and take her time making good quality songs that deserve the fame she gets.
@@vtheory7531 You seem to be under the impression that she would even consider this as bad material, which is wholly inconsistent with how she portrays herself and the world around her.
Im not a huge fan but my significant other is. I like the simple stuff. Her music doesnt need to be super deep for me, in fact i just want fun shit i can bop to. After listening to this album i only really saw 3 "bops" out of 31 songs and a lot of potential bops that just get ruined by her being oddly immature and...i think i actually lost it at the one high school whatever song, i legit started cackling. Sounded exactly like the tik tok ai songs people were meming about her writing when she first got with kelce. Anyways that charlie puth lyric was the worst thing ive heard in a long time
I think the second album with aaron is better, the writing on it is so good compared to the first. She could've had better track choices and come out with only one
Agree 100% She needs a break, and her next album needs to be different and refreshing. Otherwise, She will probably fade out at least for a while. At this point, she can retire very comfortably, but she loves to write, so I doubt she'll stop writing, even after her popularity dies down. Will be interesting to see how her career plays out because her whole music career has been a bit of an enigma. 😊
Do we remember when Anthony was defending Antonoff on Midnights? Edit: I realize that that reads like I am attacking Anthony, but I just find it funny that he wound up agreeing with the criticism eventually.
the line "I'd rather burn my whole life down, Than listen to one more second of all this bitchin' and moanin'" sums up the whole album for me
Lmao 😭😭
Facts
I like it it’s supposed to be melodramatic and silly
Oh my god, yeah. I wanted to rip my hair out, guys.
My favorite line of the whole album. People be bitching and moaning.
As a Swiftie, I was disappointed af with this double album release. I hope she takes a real break and stop being 'productive' and actually grow as a person and an artist. Please
Why should she develop as an artist if 99% of swifties gobble up everything she shits on the plate?
What? Its literally her BEST ALBUM
@@sadeqsaudi9433if that’s your opinion, fine! Enjoy it 😊
I hope she works with Max Martin again. That man gave us bops
Oh god No , that’s her worst album imo I like Aaron dessner better
Genuinely not sure if Kanye fans or Swifties are worse.
I raise you Sleep Token Stans
YES THANK YOU! 8:40 you explained my biggest problem with her new music. she has completely stopped being subtle and this is the same girl who wrote "dear john," which is a very beautiful song and not subtle at all. i think it was soooo petty to put thanK you aIMee on the tracklist, furthermore to capitalize the letters spelling "kim." I will admit it, i am a big Kim K hater but man this is not taylor being the bigger person. this is woe is me ass writing.
i think all of speak now is a good parallel to the criticisms of the album. its a way more mature album and that's even including better than revenge. theoretically better than revenge should have the cringe flair of "who's afraid of little old me" but it just works for some reason and lines like "now go stand in the corner and think about what you did" and "she should keep in mind there's nothing i do better than revenge" are fun and playful regardless. the production is great with some really cool instrumentals like on the song haunted whereas jack antonoff just creates such a boring environment on ttpd. the choruses feel earned and grand and the songs are written very well like with back to december (NOT TO MENTION ITS A SONG WHERE SHE ADMITS SHE'S FLAWED AND THAT SHE MESSED UP which is very anti-modern swift given the narcissism in her recent projects). i think it really just comes down to the fact that speak now is a genuine album with engaging production, more mature lyrics and good songwriting and ttpd is an artificial self indulgent attempt at being edgy with boring overdone production, really cringe lyrics and generic songwriting at best.
But who cares it’s Kim k If it was someone that wasn’t her I think it would matter 😂 that Ho is horrible Who likes the kartrashians
Anthony Bouta be in witness protection after this one
😂😂😂
Nah because Taylor stans are not familiar with his game. They'll be like: he didn't like it, so he must've given it a 7 or 8 in his head. They probably wouldn't get it.
@@tolautwhat that doesn’t make sense a 7 is already a great score
@@josh44026 Thats the point ahaha. Anything below a 10 would be devastating for them.
That’s why he didn’t give it a score.
i'm not saying taylor swift is a bad songwriter by any means but you can really tell when someone only listens to taylor swift or adjacent
The "Newly Divorced" sticker on cals laptop is wild
As much as I enjoy an artist taking back their creative work, this is kind of what you get when you've spent the last decade rehashing all of your old songs.
The Tortured Melons Department
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.how many comments are you going to respond to lmao
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.Okee dokee artichokee
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.is this your first time in a fantano comment section??
As the tortured melon poet of his generation, Anthony's opinion on this album holds much value.
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. i'd report you but there's no option for "blatant attention seeking"
12:15: That’s exactly how their relationship felt to her in the end I think
Just looked at the album on Spotify and started scrolling down the tracklist and kept scrolling.. and kept scrolling.. and kept FUCKING scrolling. No way she put 31 fucking songs on an album that’s insane
for the sake of time i suggest only listening to: so long london, so high school, clara bow, peter, i can do it with a broken heart, how did it end
She wants to be Lana so bad but it’s just coming off as cringey-theater-kid
Now i can show my significant other this cuz she really didnt like me or believe me saying it was "lana core" cuz i shouldn't be comparing women or something 🤨
Please stop comparing women
my friend and i literally predicted she was gonna try to emulate lana even more here 😭
@@mustafamehdi1663Then SHE should stop trying to compare herself to her
Theyre comparing artists 🙄 @@mustafamehdi1663
"You know how to ball, I know Aristotle" 😭😭😭 Bro, ain't no way she unironically wrote this.
LMAOOOOOOOOO
mf doom ass lyrics
To be fair, I think it is pretty tongue in cheek. Not to say all of her goofy lines are but I think that one is.
@@darien9119 hard disagree
@@darien9119 I don't love this album either, but I also think a lot more of it than people think is tongue-in-cheek or said ironically, especially the title of the album, and it's flying over a lot of people's heads or they are being purposefully disingenuous because it makes it easier to dunk on her.
Correction: So Long, London is produced by Aaron Dessner, not Jack. I felt this album is a bit all over the place and a let down from me. I'm still trying hard to connect with most of the 31 songs, but in many cases the loyrics are just not at the level I would expect from such a brilliant songwriter. However I have some favorites that will do it for me, like The Black Dog and Robin.
bring me back to folklore era please, i need uniquely sounding soft songs of hers back🙏
For a self proclaimed “lifeline album” she really flatlined with this
At least Cal is getting an education 🎉🎉🎉
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.how many comments u gonna reply to?
Bro so much of this sounds like it was written by ai. The fact that it’s breaking all time sales records is maddening. Her cult of personality is real
@@dr.shivago2404I can reply to them all. I’m the fastest typewriter at my job. You don’t have a job
@@chiarosuburekeni9325no it’s not and you are wrong
vultures son or tortured poets department daughter
ttpd daughter isnt a nazi at the very least
Child neglect
vultures daughter
abortion
fantano route - getting a vasectomy
Wow can't believe this album won the grammy for album of the year 2025
What makes Taylor so unbearable besides her obviously copying artists is her fans. They make Taylor their whole personality and it’s disturbing
Let them live through that mediocrity. 😂😂😂
@@Unsweetened8618as a fleetwood mac , the who, pink Floyd and swift fan, I would like heavily to be excluded from the mediocrity narrative. I think it’s wholly unfair to boil down a swiftie to just this insufferable person that has no taste in music whatsoever. I’m not going to fight for Taylor , she has some bad truly god awful songs, but this record also isn’t as objectively horrific as all the critics are panning it to be .
@@amydougies3852I agree completely. What's the purpose of music in the first place???
Which artists did she copied?
You wouldn't've survived Beatle Mania. The complaints about this are only starting to rear their head because the music kinda sucks.
Once I heard the "1830s without racists" lyric I knew red flannel was inevitable.
that song is so good and it’s literally talking about how people romanticize the past forgetting all the horrible shit that happened back then, you all just love to read some hate post and talk shit out of nothing
@@burton7767😭
As someone who's lived in West Virginia, Montana, Indiana and Wyoming I'm going to have to ask a dumb question: wtf does 'red flannel was inevitable' mean? Flannel is just an everyday fabric where I've lived. It's like if you said 'blue cotton was incoming'. What does that mean? I'm not a Swiftie, this is not a defense of her, I'm just so lost.
@@morganqorishchi8181 Fantano uses a red flannel shirt when reviewing a project that he strongly disliked. Likewise the yellow flannel comes out when he's reviewing one that he enjoyed a lot.
Omg cry more about it@@burton7767, no one fucking cares lmao
she wants to be lana del rey and phoebe bridgers SO BAD
Yeah I'm getting little hints of Lana, Phoebe and even some Fiona Apple. Unfortunately there's no emotional depth behind it. It just falls flat and feels like another costume she's putting on.
Except Lana is an anti-masker who doesn't believe in science and is so out of touch she thinks we're on third wave feminism when we're actually on fourth verging on fifth. No one wants to be that dumbass. She may want some of her musical inspo, but no one wants to actually be that dumb.
It’s crazy how huge of an artist she is but can’t produce the song talents that these “lesser than” artist under her can produce
That’s cuz Taylor has the emotional depth of a puddle
@@alyssamichaela "Authenticity" is what people want nowadays. Large corporations like record labels are catching on, so they put their energy into faking authenticity.
I must say this is the most Ive ever agreed with you on a review. Especially when you talked about this album if it was Country. THIS IS THE BEST TAKE. If it was country I can see this album being a COMPLETELY different record, and probably a wayyy better one at that.
I'm actually starting to like her stuff and I liked this album because I felt it was Lana inspired rather than a rip off. But Anthony is so right about her needing to take a break from Jack. She's about the words and she needs someone to make the sound jump out so it's not so homogeneous.
Dead Poets Society >>> Tortured Poets Department
I think I’ve seen that band as an opener recently? Maybe it’s a sign of her next album being a metal album
Poets of the fall, btw
todd’s poem exceeds everything taylor has put out
There's this Finnish mystery novel The Rabbit Back Literature Society, that I got stuck halfway reading, for several reasons. I should finish it. But one way or another, I can positively say: The Rabbit Back Literature Society >>> The Tortured Poets Department
Dead poets society is a great band
I’m no longer a Swiftie after this album, it just drained me emotionally and physically. I could barely finish it, there was only 2-3 songs I liked out of 31?!? Like this was absolutely awful.
31 songs even for a deluxe is diabolical ngl
@@JaMorantBiggerArm LITERALLYYYY I wasn’t even halfway through and I found out she added 15 more songs and I wanted to crawl in a hole and never come out.
Personally, the only songs I liked came from the side b, they even felt more cohesive with the poets narrative...
@@hoesmad8207 Absolutely! Even then it wasn’t anything special to me but it was definitely a more collective work than the first album.
@@JaMorantBiggerArm31 songs even for a double album is crazy
Florida!!! is hitting hard with me and my friends who live in the South. It was so cool to hear her talk about Destin and Texas. It's not for everyone, but we are having fun with it.
“I can fix him, no really I can” is certainly one of the lyrics of all time
Yk the whole point of the song was her slowly realizing she couldn’t fix him?? 😭
@@kingvampstan yea but I mean, does that make the lyric any better? It’s still corny asf. Also she says that lyrics like 3-4 times and doesn’t “realize” she can’t fix him until the very last bar. “Woah on the very last bar she says she can’t actually fix him, that automatically makes the rest of the song good”
@@kingvampstancarti fan defending a corny taylor swift lyric before gta 6 😭🙏
@@kingvampstan But she slowly realizes nothing of actual note. The song doesn't really address why that mentality is problematic at its core, it just fumbles around her particular experience and proudly comes to a "realization" any sane adult would without having to go through all this BS, just like every other song of hers does. Her lack of self-awareness and incapacity to see what the common denominator of all her so-called problems actually is just comes across, to someone not invested in her narrative, as less mature than Olivia Rodrigo's writing, who's basically a child. Swift's writing makes Ariana's look like Bauman and Carly's look like Kant.
@@kingvampstan Still cringe af
she’s in her St Anger era
God yes, that is the perfect observation lol
St anger was better than this
Fran Tic tic tic tic tic tic tock
Too bad it doesn't have that trash can snare on her album.
@@daishoryujin95Metallica were ahead of their time.
Missed opportunity to not have a 3 minute and 48 second montage of Taylor and Post Malone playing fortnite duos
she needs to stop copying Lana because it's not working out for her, like stick to what u know 😭
Comparing the Taylorverse to Marvel is a harsh, yet fair, critique That line is more telling that any low number that you might expect in the end of the review
I think a comparison could also be drawn between Swifties and Disney Adults
I'm genuinely a fan of Taylor and have listened to her since I was 10. I was a defender of Reputation and Midnights. The only album I didn't vibe with was Lover but mostly because it felt like a step back and that was rectified with folklore. This is the worst thing she's ever made in a way that feels a lot more final. Like, something vaguely legacy-destroying. Maybe the facade finally broke for me, where the person that came across in public finally coalesces into the person that came across in the music, but it's so, so embarrassing. Taylor has become too rich, too privileged, too disconnected from reality to write anything even slightly relatable to anyone outside of a rabid core fanbase. It's a movie franchise descending into empty fanservice, with anything genuinely interesting or creative has been wrung out in service of The Brand. Taylor's narcissism has gone from being an interesting character flaw in an often deeply raw and emotionally vulnerable artist to being the only thing she even does anymore. She's become the same kind of cringe as a late-period emo band, still screaming and whining about your ex well into your 30s and well beyond when you should've grown up already. It makes sense to me that despite being 34 herself, most of her particularly invested fanbase aren't people like me who are less than a decade younger than her and grew up with her music from the beginning, they're current-day teenagers, as in people with significantly less life experience than Taylor herself. She's cultivated this, a fanbase so invested in picking apart her lyrics to add to their lore (because that's the only real way to get anything out of it at this point), yet seems to resent the level of scrutiny that invites. Obviously artists are allowed to write about relationships without being obligated to enjoy seeing those relationships raked through the public eye, but Taylor isn't a normal artist, she's a billionaire, a towering persona that barely even feels human in the music anymore. If you don't want to feel like your fanbase of teenagers is judging you for your relationships, just maybe write about something else? She clearly has the ability to do so, folklore especially showed that, but it feels like she just wants to exist in this songwriting comfort zone as to establish her legacy and fight against her long-documented insecurity about getting replaced in the industry. Just deeply unrelatable and boring stuff, the kind of music you can only write as a truly out of touch billionaire who doesn't have anything to say anymore. I do feel vaguely bitter about it, probably unreasonably so, because I really felt like folklore/evermore and even Midnights to a certain extent represented Taylor's transition into a more mature artist who had more variety in her song topics (and a real gift for fiction and storytelling) as a natural extension of being a proper adult now, and I was excited for where her music was going to go from there. This feels like an intentional regression, to wallow in the drama that you seemed like you were leaving behind when in reality it had just been parked. After more than 15 years and defending her music through times when it was really unpopular to do so, I can't in any way call myself a fan of Taylor's music anymore and it genuinely does upset me. thank you for reading my self-therapy session in this youtube comment xo
What a fucking delight to find this gem of a comment in the midst of the stale jokes that have taken over every comments section of Fantano’s reviews. A thoughtful, well-written opinion is rare these days. This was a huge pleasure to read. Thank you for writing it 🩷
i ain’t reading allat💀
you said it
@@snapsforginger aw that's actually really nice thank you it was supposed to be like three sentences lol
how was midnight more mature? genuinely asking
Listening to this album with the perception that it’s a troll by Taylor made it very entertaining. From working with Jack to reference the 1975 music production and literally spelling out KIM, Charlie Puth reference all while she admits to the chaos that was finally dating Matty Healy after leaving her 6 year relationship which barely got recognised in her anthology … I had a good laugh 😅
I had a similar experience with MOTOMAMI back in the day lmao. I honestly think Rosalia was just trolling with that nonsense. But production wise was seriously good and creative. Fun album in general.
Taylor Swift sounds like a 16 year old who discovered indie music for the first time, thought "I could do that" and just emulates it poorly because she thought being edgy in song writing sounded cool.
The flannel is red Swifties may be blue Fantano will be dead If his hatred is true
The dislikes are already ratiod KZhead is hiding it though
If you pay attention to the skit at the end it's à 3 out of 10 "Okay I'm going Okay I'm going Okay I'm going " EDIT I WAS RIGHT
We declared @TheKingShyGuy should be a bigger artist
Better poet than Taylor Swift
@@Dinosaur12349 nope
Grateful to hear a music critic calling a spade a spade. It's been surreal reading all the gushing reviews for this forgettable ass album
swifties making a scene over a 70/100 when the album is actually a 30/100
Some magazine called paste got death threats cause they scored the album 3.4/10
there were plenty of mediocre to bad reviews?
As a huge taylor fan, there are so many hits in this album that are overshadowed by the misses. She did not have to put out 31 songs bc 15 GREAT ones would have done the work. Her magic comes from being earnest, the album makes me wanna listen to her older music because her lyricism is so much better at 22 than at 34
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Personally. I feel that Taylor Swift should have just skipped releasing a full album, and just released Fortnight as a single.
Goodbye Anthony, it was good knowing you...
That’s on him
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.You said Vultures was "fire" - you know people can click on your name to see your recent comments?
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.What?! 😂😂😂
He just needs some security. That’s all 😂😂😂
Hes right tho @No1TypeC
Taylor, take notes. As a fellow swiftie, i agree with him. Taylor should stop working with Jack.
Yeah, I wish it was just sometimes. Like on 1989 there were 2 Jack-produced songs and they are both good and provide some nice variety to the Martin/Shellback tracks. 6 on Reputation. Folklore he's got plenty, but still less than half. Then just 1 on Evermore. But then Midnights and this he's completely taken over, and so instead of providing a contrast it just becomes this monotonous mass of Jack. I vote 4 songs an album maximum.
taylor should stop working with taylor
@@camipcothat’s a fine opinion but not sure it’s true (I personally love Midnights). But on her last 4 albums the production credits have been: TTPD: Antonoff 14, Dressner 15, both 2 Midnights: JA 17, AD 3, both 1 folklore: JA 2, AD 9, plus Joe on 6 lol evermore: JA 1, AD 14 That’s 41 for Dressner to 34 for Jack with 3 both credited; similar with writing credits: 36 Dressner, 30 Jack, 2 both. Whatever criticism is being leveled about it all sounding the same (which I thought initially but on re-listen there’s plenty of variety) would actually be leveled at Dressner cuz there’s no way someone can hear TTPD and think it sounds like Midnights. I don’t see anybody suggesting her working with Dressner is a mistake. Not being her best album is very different from it being a bad album.
@@dsmith2420 You're right, although as Fantano says, TTPD not-anthology is Antonoff heavier while the anthology half is Dressner heavier and better for it. And I significantly prefer Evermore to Midnights and Folklore for this reason. I also want to say, this criticism at least from me is compared to what I think she's capable of. Every Taylor album is great, and I think Antonoff is a very good producer. I like TTPD significantly more than Fantano seems to. I just think it would be even better with more varied and dynamic production. I will say while I prefer Dressner to Antonoff, their production is similar enough that it doesn't help much. And of course, every single one of these tracks has the same name on production - Swift. We know one of the reasons she likes working with both of these men is they defer to her and aren't bossing her around which of course I totally get why she doesn't want to be working with the plethora of male producers who would not show her due respect. As other folks have said, there's definitely some sexism in assigning all credit/blame for production to these two men (to be clear, I'm not calling you out, I was doing it too), when Swift herself has production credit for a reason. And Swift is and has always been an incredibly skilled mimic. The reason she was able to conquer country is she figured out the sound and how to capture it so perfectly. Then she did the same for pop and then the same for indy. I'm not saying that's all she does, but it's always been a big part of her music and her commercial success. Much of the time, she gives the audience something familiar they already like. I don't mean that as an insult, it is a serious skill. And at this point in her career, she's out of worlds to conquer and is mimicking herself. I just wish we'd see her try more.
@@camipco there’s a lot of truth there. I wasn’t trying to discredit you at all either. You’re 100% spot on about how TTPD was arranged-it’s essentially two albums. One produced with Jack and one with Aaron (with a little crossover on each). I wouldn’t even disagree with anyone suggesting she should consider bringing in a new ear. Dressner is great but basically 3 full albums with him is probably just right. Like I said, Midnights is my favorite album so I don’t hate Antonoff’s sound (I’m also biased towards anybody who was part of creating Some Nights haha) but she’s typically switched it up every few records. That’s what’s so impressive. Other than Nashville Taylor, none of her albums are similar unless you wanna count folklore/evermore as separate which I don’t. But yes, I believe she’s received writing and producing credits on every single track since Reputation (and it was most of those too). Hell she even set Joe up for life from folklore royalties haha TTPD sounded repetitive to me on first listen but I’d say that’s true for all music. I didn’t like Fortnight the first time but that’s a great song. There’s not as much monotony as people are suggesting but ironically the most diverse portion is Antonoff’s half. Lover is my least favorite album by far (though it’s growing on me) but that’s fine. There’s bound to be something not everybody likes when you’re putting out as many records as she has especially when they’re all different. The suggestion some people are making that TTPD proves she’s not that talented is laughable. But videos like this are so disingenuous. Shitting on her for not being original while simultaneously claiming Fortnight or Florida are bad songs is insane. Her and Florence are great together. But when someone sells 700k vinyls in 3 days in 2024 im gonna go out on a limb and suggest the album probably isn’t actually bad. Her worst album if you consider TTPD is that would be 99% of artists best work by a mile. That’s how high her bar is.
She's desperately trying to have an NFR in her career. This sudden friendship with Lana always made me suspicious. She has a history of making "friendships" in the industry with artists she finds interesting and then starting it as if she had used what she wanted and left. That's what happened to Lorde.
i think this album could've genuinely been pretty good if she cut out like 21 songs. it's such a long album and all of the songs sound so similar that it's genuinely hard to get through.
the dopamine rush I got when I saw the red flannel is inexplicable
like a bull 😂
that’s weird, why
@@daved6536bc other critics blindly praise taylor and never acknowledge her obvious shortcomings
@@alara4006 I think most critics are pretty fair tbh
@daved6536 Rolling Stone gave her a 10 💀 ain't no way this shit equals Regina Spektor, Joni Mitchell, Sheryl Crow, Liz Phair, Fiona Apple, Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Carly Simon, PJ Harvey or literally any other female singer-songwriter 💀
My colleague played this in our office, our manager called us The Tortured Ears Department.
Sounds like a story you made up
Damn lil old president on all of these replies go to sleep mf literally wasting energy on some bullshit @@PresidentKamalaHarris.
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. I agree someone playing music out loud and someone else making a remark about it is the least believable thing I’ve ever considered in my entire life
Sounds like your manager has an imagination barrier
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.this is the most believable fantano comment I have ever seen
If it was called The Pimped Butterflies Department you would have given it a 10
To Pimp a Tortured Artist
8:21 That line is about Travis Kielce The song is clearly about someone she’s currently dating and uses the word touchdown several times
Just because your favorite team lost the superbowl doesnt mean you can give it a zero melon.
Not a chance. Only Americsn Football Melon knows is the Indie band.