BMW 3 Series Touring // All the car you need (F31 335d)
2022 ж. 12 Там.
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Review of the F31 BMW 3-Series Touring (Wagon/Estate)
Part of the F30 generation, the F31 is BMWs mid-size estate car.
The car on test is a 2019 335d M-Sport Shadow edition
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I've got a F31 330d Touring MSport. Best car I've ever had (I bought my first car in 1984).
I picked up a 67 plate 335d touring in black shadow edition with 17k milage. Absolutely love it. Best BMW I've owned. Goes like a rocket! :D
Never been a big beemer fan but I wouldn’t say no to this one. Estate cars are growing on me too. Can’t wait for the SUV backlash!
Just bought a f31 335d touring and i love it, heads up display, Harman sound system electric tailgate, blue Brembo callipers, reverse camera, front sensors in silver 67 plate. Only 0.2 seconds slower than my RS4 Avant from 0 to 60. 0 to 60 on the BM is 4.8 seconds.
If anyone is thinking about buying one of these you won’t be disappointed. A low mileage one will hold its value very well and make sure you get adaptive Msport suspension spec.
First video I've watched from you. Very informative. Subscribed
Awesome, thanks for subscribing :)
@@JJonCars Pleasure 👍🏻
Hi JJ. I've watched many of your vids over the 6 months or so I've been subscribed. Love the cut of your jib, just a bit different from many other KZheadrs and very entertaining and informative. Many thanks.
Just realised I've used the word 'many' far too many times in my post above. Many apologies...there I go again!
Hahaha many thanks for commenting John!
I’m leaving a comment, but I forgot what you asked me to say. I’m glad someone makes car videos in the way that you do. Very refreshing.
Thanks Dan! Haha, it's because I didn't really ask for anything other than to say hello :) So thanks for that, and very kind to say.
Great video JJ and having a 2017 F30 335D myself I can endorse most of the elements you have touched on but there are least two versions of the iDrive and the basic one has a much smaller screen. I would say that the options list is huge on these but in my humble opinion adaptive dampers are a must as the stock springs on the xdrive are a bit soft. Ride is hugely improved with the adaptive setup and definitely get rid of the run flats in favour of MPS4's which improve comfort and grip enormously. One huge thing with these is changing engine oil and filter which should be done much more often that recommended by BMW's 18,000 mile suggestion. I would say no more than 10,000.
Great information, thanks Mark. Fully agree on servicing them more often than BMW recommend - seems madness to do them at 18,000 miles. Also, excellent shout on the MPS4s.
Nice to see an off duty magician doing a review. Plenty of room for your cape, top hat and wand. 🎩 🪄
The perfect car to buy used. Take your time to work out what options you want , and trust me somewere out there is a car who's first owner ticked all the boxes for you.
Just purchased a 335d tourer about 3 months ago,and i absolutely love it. Great performance and great fuel economy. Like you said just keep looking and one will turn up with a good spec on it. I’ve had 5 BMWs so far and this one is a wolf 🐺 in sheep’s clothing,brings a huge smile to my face when i push that start button. It’s a 2019 shadow edition Love it 👍
Brilliant. The performance from that diesel engine is phenomenal, and they really are great to drive.
Thinking of parting with my vx220 which is not getting used.always liked the the touring and this video has sold it to me.brilliant test all i wanted to know and hear. Regards warren.
Ah great, thanks Warren. The VX220 is a very cool and rare car - can't you have two cars? haha
@@JJonCars you maybe right.👍
Hello! Another great review JJ and BJJ 😀
Thanks Matt!
Nice video, was looking at the new M340d (but 2nd hand), but a good one of these 2nd hand is at least 15K cheaper and offers nearly all the same performance and economy, so thinking of getting one of these. But you are right about the options, trying to find one with all the toys I want is working out difficult, but I am in no rush.
Cheers Rich. Makes sense to go second hand - good luck with your search and finding the perfect one 👍
I was going to upgrade and fork out a lot for an m340d touring but after the test drive a few months ago I decided to keep my 2018 335d. It’s just not worth the difference as these cars are so good. I also have a little bit of a problem with how the 340d looked in white compared to my existing Tanzanite blue.
Perfect allrounder
Yep exactly!
Dream car right there
Great interesting video once again by jj
Cheers Tony!
Hi JJ. I'm still here. Every video since the first one on the Hyundai Coupe. Very nice BMW. Would love one but can't justify spending the money on buying one. Still enjoying your fantastic content. Keep them coming.
Thanks Mark, good to hear from you. Hows the fleet?
@@JJonCars Well, Audi is having issues at the moment unfortunately. Away being fixed just now. It's getting old now and needs more attention and time than I have to give it. Plenty of life left in it though so planning to sell it. It's a beautiful car and I will miss it. Celica. What can I say. 25 years old and still going strong. It too is away having a few bits done to it just now but it'll be back soon.
@@markb7346 Any thoughts on what's next after the Audi? Can't go wrong with Toyota reliability, and I always liked those Celicas :)
@@JJonCars That's a tricky one. First question, will car prices come back down to previously normal levels? Audi has increased in value by 66% in the past two years so now is a good time to sell but a bad time to put a load of extra money into something special. I was looking at Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2 diesel auto Premium. About £7.5k for a 2011 with 75k miles. Audi is worth about £5k so probably best for me personally at the moment to stay around the £5k level until prices readjust. So to get the Hyundai, I'd have to add £2.5k. So, I've got a Peugeot 3008 2.0 Hdi 11 reg 54k miles £5k. It'll do for a couple of years until prices sort themselves out if they're going to. Thinking it would be best for me to stick to one special car, the Celica as my main car and have a less special but perfectly adequate and functional reserve car. Ideal for sharing with my partner when necessary, for transporting the dog, towing the trailer etc. I do about 15k miles a year so thinking to split that between the Celica and 3008, 7.5k miles in each. This will let me use the Celica more which I absolutely love. Celica only has 117k miles on it so the engine has a lot of life left in it. Clutch and gearbox are very worn but the clutch isn't slipping yet. Thinking to maybe get the Celica gearbox refurbished and fit a new clutch and all the other replaceable bits between the engine and gearbox replaced. That should transform the driveability. If I'm using the car more then I'll be more inclined to get it done. Also, need to get the wheels refurbished and the rear spoiler, door handles and mirrors re-painted. Looking at getting it wax oiled too. After all that, Celica should be amazing and ready to continue for another 100k miles. What do you think?
@@markb7346 I honestly think you've got the right approach there Mark! Having the Peugeot as the sensible runaround and the Celica as the fun car makes sense. You can't drive two cars at once so it makes sense for them to be quite different models. I think eventually prices will come down, but there's almost no point considering that now - personally if I were to be buying another car I wouldn't let it put me off. Though I am sad that I can't go buying £500 KZhead project cars now, as you can't get anything for that money. I'll have to stick to reviews haha. Look forward to hearing the progress on the Celica, it sounds like a car worth spending the money on. I do the same with the CLK, making sure it has everything it needs :)
Nice review of the popular estate car out there as I’m looking at 2015 onwards 320d tourer n interesting to see comparisons to the 330d…is the road tax n fuel costs that much higher?? As the police use them then they must be good!! Liked n subbed!!
Thanks Gord! For the 320d efficient dynamics models the road tax is £20 a year, but other 320d models are very similar to 330d for road tax - something like £130 a year. But if you get any car that was sold new after April 2017 the road tax is the same flat rate so makes no difference. Fuel costs, the 320d will be a fair bit better on fuel, so I'd say it depends how many miles a year you do?
That five star NCAP safety rating really is the icing on the cake!
Damn, I missed a trick there 😂
@@JJonCars lol
nice video :) i have the f31 lci 320d xdrive msport individual. i bet the 335d is a weapon. Salut.
Merci!
Very nice car, I admire any estate. How the hell can you wear a turtle neck jumper in this weather JJ? I'd melt!
Haha, definitely had that aircon cranked up! I agree, I like estates more and more these days, given that almost everything is an SUV of some sort now.
Good one! My last on not too long ago was a 2019 320d that took a while to find with the build i was looking for. And my 330d is more fun for most maybe but the 320d is just the king off everyday car and you can drive long on one tank. And like you i am not a huge fan of the new design that´s why i had to look for this 2019 with all stuff i wanted. :)
Thanks. I agree the 320d is a perfect every day car - 330 has lots of power but the 320 isn't exactly slow :)
I’ve recently picked up a 66 plate F31 320d M-Sport Auto Xdrive with 110k and full history for the daily commute. I found the best car I could for my relatively modest budget, very happy with my choice.
Sounds great!
@@JJonCars yep, love it. Done 1800 miles in 3 weeks, all good so far. I’ve got the pano roof which I’m pleased with and 18s on mine, which I think ride better to be honest. Wolf Alice sounds awesome playing through HK 👌
I have the f30 335d awesome motors... I see parts are filmed in Poulton le fylde that's right where I live 👍🏾👍🏾
Yep! Well spotted
2nd time watching, audi A5 then the BMW 335d, very useful videos thank you very much you are great, thinking of getting the latter (2016 85K miles) instead of the audi, have heard about the reliability of the N57 diesel engines and the smoothness of the inline 6 as opposed to the Audi V (3.0 tdi) engine. hope I'm making the right choice, time will tell, hopefully, won't have too many niggles with the complex electronics !
Thank you! It all really comes down to which car you prefer/suits you, as they're both good cars. If you've got more of a desire for the BMW then I think that's the right decision :) There's a review of the F32 4-Series for you to take a look at too if you want to add that into the mix haha
Does it have adaptive dampers on m package? And how is the body roll in tight corners? Hated that on previous editions…
I thought the timing chain issues only occurred with the pre-2015 2.0 diesel engine, not the 3.0 diesel?
Great review. Just a shame I can't afford one as I have to save up for the next electricity & gas bill 😥
Thanks Mike and yeah, such is life now. I'd say get an older BMW touring of some sort, but it might cost the same in repairs haha
I just bought a 19 plate 320d,I know its not as quick but honestly,it's still great fun and brilliant to drive
Probably still quick enough though!
@@JJonCars it is for me🤣
Nice spec diesel wagon
Seen this video a few times Thinking of buying 1 to either 335D or M340D tourings
Thanks for the views :) Good luck in your search if you decide to buy one
Hello! The biggest problems are with the crankshaft's bearings They are undersized, so beside the changing intervall of 30K kilometers, you have to change the bearings too at about 200 K, and at about 250-300K the CP4 high pressure diesel pump too. (I have changed the timing chaing, the bearings and the CP4 pump for a "precausion". :) If your bearings or timing chain, or the CP4 collapse, your wallet collapse to... :( I hope my piezzo injectors will work for a long time, not only for 300K kilometers.
Great info, thanks. I hope owners will not be experiencing too much wallet collapse 😂
Who is driving car with 200k+ mils... buy used car few years old and much lower milage and all your problems will go away...simple
@@KA-vo4gq Thats the biggest problem. Use everything for some years, don't fix it, but buy a new one.
On the X5 you said there were issues with the diesel engines, surely same engines in this? Returning subscriber. 👍🏻
The only difference (for the 3.0) is that the F30 only had the N57, where's the E70 had the M57 and then later on the N57. Tbh though I'm not that clued up on the reliability differences between the two, but the N57 is a more modern and refined engine. So later X5s and the F30 will have the same issues, whatever they may be. Cheers!
You probably noticed but I have watched a good few videos now 👍
I did! Thanks for watching :)
Hi! Been in here since the mkiv Golf
Awesome, thank you Javier. BTW, I'm hoping to get another, different MkIV Golf on in the coming months, so stay tuned :)
@@JJonCars I’ll keep an eye on it
I love the wheels do they fit without any modification or have you done something to fit ? Can M2 competition wheels fit on 335 d ?
As far as I'm aware they're the wheels that came with it, as it's the shadow edition :) I don't know about the M2 wheels
330i is a 2L in the F-30/31/32/33/34
I love mine. Touring looks better than saloon imo. A group of lets say "competant" drivers we went for a run up the North of Scotland. One of the lads ina 997 carrera 4s couldn't believe it when struggled to keep up with my 335d.
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eeee....NO Saloon looks much much better but if you can not aford a van and a proper car buy touring.... pathetic
Looking at the 335 petrol. Any know issues? Keep up the good work!
Cheers Chris. Off the top of my head I don't know the issues of these engines but I'm sure there's some good info on forums and some buyers guides out there :)
Which M sport alloy wheels are on it? Looks pretty cool also with the blue M sport brake calipers.
Not sure of the name. They are the ones that came with the shadow edition when the car was new
I have found that it was available for the M2 competition, 19" M light alloy wheels Y-spoke style 788 M, 265/35 R19. Look so cool, but I assume it would be not too comfortable on the bumby roads with my 320i f31 :D
@@Dalos93 it's always a trade off of looks vs comfort :)
Great video. Looking to get a 2015 335D with 100k miles on
Thank you, good luck in your search :)
@JJonCars thanks, yup I bought it and it's a great car! 👍🏽
@@Mehta555555 Congrats, enjoy!
I’ve ran an f31 335d msport, my 5th Bmw for the past 6.5years, it’s wonderful, fantastic & simply all the car you’d ever need, it does just about everything. Not one problem has it given me, it’s been totally reliable (it as had 2 EGR cooler recalls to be fair) still drives as well as it ever did, averages 38/40mpg towards 50 on a run, plenty of space for the family & goes like the clappers. My advice would be not to scrimp on the maintenance, change the oil at least annually, use premium fuel & they’ll run & run. I’ve absolutely no intention of changing it anytime soon, especially with all this EV nonsense being shoved down our throats, I’ll keep what I’ve got.
Nice one, and great advice!
I currently have a 535d f10 thinking of moving to this shape and model would it be much shorter or same length and width
F10: 4839 x 1860mm F31: 4633 x 1811mm So the F31 is definitely smaller than your F10 - a little bit narrower and a chunk shorter. Worse for your rear passengers, but with the touring model, more luggage space :)
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Hello 😀 Does it come with turn signals as standard though 🤔😁😁
Haha! You have to option the polite driver pack, and that's pretty expensive 😂
@@JJonCars 🤣🤣🤣
The wing mirrors are on the door 😊
Figure of speech :)
You said its comes in a 6 speed manual? I cant find one with a manual gear box?
Well, I think I was referring to the 3 Series Touring in general, which was available with a manual. But I don't think the bigger engines came with manuals, or they are very rare if they did.
Thinking about purchasing a 320i xdrive shadow edition 2019... thoughts?
Why not - shadow edition is decent spec!
Personally I’d go for the 320d xdrive (maybe a euro 6 though so post 2015). I’ve had my 2014 320d xdrive 8 years now and it’s brilliant - economy is better than the 320i xdrive as I get 540 plus to a tank and 620 once. It’s the reason I’m in two minds whether to sell as ticks all the boxes. Just get one with as much spec as possible (Harmon Kardon, heated seats, folding rear seats if saloon…).
You missed the 330d off your list. I had an F30 330d. Plenty of grunt and the RWD chassis handled slightly better and rode lower than the X-drive. Also less likely to break.
Oh yeah, woops!
@@JJonCars Also the 325d that i have.
Love this car. I own th 2012 320d F31. I want the 335d. Just need a better job lol 😆
Haha, good luck
Whats this car like on the motorway? would it get 50mpg at 70mph? cheers bud
Very steady and quiet/relaxed on the motorway. At a guess I'd say a bit less than that, perhaps mid 40's!
50mpg is very achievable from experience
Great review, with some minor inaccuracies. Think on the petrol side only the 335i and 340i were 6 cylinders on the petrol side! Basic like automatic headlights come with the packages, which are standard on the larger engines. But great nonetheless, and enjoy the car, if it should be yours!
Correct - the 330i was a 2.0 4 cylinder (as was the 328i).
Are these cars clumsy ? Even with M package. Bout to buy one. I am a little concerned with its power also.
Not sure what you mean by clumsy :) Concerned about having too much, or not enough power?
@@JJonCars no, just a lot of body roll ? And unresponsive due to the electric steering ?
@@johnjohnson1997 yeah, to be fair the steering I'm not as big a fan of as old hydraulic, but I realised after the review that it does weight up in sport mode. Didn't notice much body roll
@@JJonCars thank you. They seem very expensive right now.
New version has messed up the steering feel, and has electronics that steer or brake the car into unnecessary dangerous situations. Since covid, the service costs have doubled. Very expensive to maintain it now. If running costs are so high you might aswell buy the D3 Alpina version, 40hp more 170mph+ and much beter handling and ride.
I had a 318 many years ago. Nice car but the seats were rubbish! Killed my back on long journeys. Plus servicing was a tad on the high side. Having said that, when I come to change my Tiguan I may have a butchers at them. 👍
Along with lots of other equipment, they definitely skimp on the seats too, so maybe they were the entry level seats. You could probably pay a good chunk of money for adjustable seats. A shame as you'd hope a BMW would be a good long distance car!
We got jobbed in the US with no 340 of this car.......
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Hi Ryan 👋 Cheers for commenting!
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Hola Stuart!
330i of new is 2.0
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Hi! :D
I think you'll find that is a ctually a touchscreen - it changed with the LCI.
Turtle neck turtle?
300+ BHP, M Sport brakes. Budget tyres. FFS!!!
Good news! The owner has now shod the car with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S! I think the dealer was responsible for the cheap tyres
Can’t say ive ever heard anyone say Bmw aren’t reliable 😂
Really? 😂
@@JJonCars never, only Mercedes and Land Rover. I’ve never had an issue with my BMWs.
@@BMWMAN-tb2jx fair enough :)
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