⚙️ EPISODE #208: When using a bandsaw, so many struggle to cut accurately to a line. But with this simple technique anyone can smoothly bandsaw like a seasoned pro. There’s no special gadgets, it just takes a little change in focus while band-sawing that makes all the difference. In this episode I break it down and demonstrate live, and of course answer any questions you might have. By the end, at least when it comes to band-sawing, we’ll all be “smooth operators!”
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The effort you went through to create the "Model" is significant, and shows just how much you care about creating truly effective lessons, THANK YOU!
Thanks Bill, it was my pleasure! 👍
Thank you for your hard work.
Last cut camera shot really showed the technique well. Nice work camera lady!!
Great, she gets the shots! 👍😎
It’s well worth the 20 minutes, Tommy. The explanation makes sense, the expanded model illustrates it clearly, and the blade-line connection is visible throughout the actual sawing. Keep doing what you’re doing.
Thanks Charlie, much appreciated! 👍😎
A sincere Thank you to you and your camera woman. I’m 73 and could’ve used this 6 decades ago . I’ll try to pass it on to my kids.
Nice job. The last two cuts you recorded really clarified the technique.
Excellent video, The best bandsaw video I have ever watched. 40 years of woodworking and you never stop learning. Many thanks for all of your efforts
Thank you for sharing this technique. This will make projects so much easier once I practice and perfect it.
Thank you for this and thank Greg for the suggestion of a shot from behind the cut. I was a bit confused on which side to push against the blade until I saw that view. This is very helpful.
Best learning comes allways from the best teachers! Thanks a lot!!!
I can't believe this is the first time I've seen this technique! brilliant! Thanks so much! I've enjoyed your FWW videos, but now I'm a subscriber to your channel!
Great tip-will try it out. Love the scale model of the blade-must have required a lot of work but very useful to explain what is going on. Thanks to you and to all the other woodworking experts on KZhead who generously share their knowledge for free! Much appreciated by novices like me! Liked and subscribed to your channel.
I am new to bandsaws and your videos (this and other ones) are awesome. You have taken so much effort in this one including creating a 10X model of the blade - amazing. Don't have words to appreciate it enough. Thank you and please keep making such wonderful videos.
The final shots where the Camera Lady got behind the blade, finally, really showed clearly how to do it. I have read about this technique before and seen a video but still had trouble understanding it. Thank you for the great demonstration and all the effort that went into it!
Thanks, yes, she always gets the shot! 👍😎
Great video! I'll have to watch it again to wrap my head around it, but it looks like it works amazingly well.
Amazing thank you for making this video. I never seen this explained so well it makes sense.
Amazing! This is the most useful KZhead video I've seen this year. THANK YOU!👍👍
Best demonstration of this Ive seen. Thanks for taking the time to explain this in detail.
Thanks Kerry! 👍
Thank you for the lesson. You are an excellent teacher.
the way I was taught this technique was to take an already cut curved piece with the line still intact on the edge, and with saw OFF! slide the piece along against the side of the blade, focus on pressing the line against back edge of the blade and guide it with the teeth just skimming the edge/line. This gives the proper 'feel' and 'focus' and allows the student to focus on that feedback thru the fingers without the danger. When the student is comfortable, try a real cut with the saw running. It takes just a few cuts to get the feel right, speed will come thru repetition. I loved your description of 'leaning' on the back edge of the blade and the model!
That made so much sense! Thank you for taking the trouble to build the scaled model of a band saw blade. It’s a game changer to this novice. Once again, thank you.
This is an excellent tip, thank you!
Man I am gonna try this!!!! Thank You so Much! Nice Job on the model too. You should put that on the wall. Lot of work you went through to demonstrate this. Thanks again!!!
Great demonstration, great props.
I may now go back and tackle the beast of a band saw that my late father owned. When I say this is a beast I can't give you the exact number because it is at my late parent's home which my brother is renting. When you look at the drive wheel and idler wheel they look about the same circumference of a passenger car tire. I have tried to use it and I always end up going back to my jig saw or for small projects my scroll saw. When you were cutting on the side you are most comfortable with I could see that you were using the back of the blade. I've tried so many different ways but that never occurred to me. My brother who has been a machinist/programmer for 40 years uses it almost as well as you do but when I asked him for an explanation he said I just needed to practice. He knows what I am doing wrong but he wants to keep me humble. Thank you!
I've always had trouble with the blade wandering, even with a fence. I've watched numerous videos on how to adjust the saw for blade drift, which has helped a lot, but never heard of steering with the back of the blade. Makes sense and I will definitely try it the next time on the bandsaw.
Great, thanks Bob! 👍😎
I’ve cut a lot with 3/8 1/2 and .025 bandsaw and likely used this method without knowing. Definitely plan to focus long on the blade next time. It occurs to me this is like teaching driving - look farther down the road to stay steady in your lane
Always love your Videos Tom, learn something new every time. I have purchased 3 sets of plans and they are top notch. Keep up the great work.
I love the model. I'd never heard of this. I'd always tried just to keep the line in the middle of the V in the kerf. Thanks.
Thanks Tom and Kris great demonstration of a technique I've never heard of or seen. I am always wondering off the line l will be trying this out next time I'm using the bandsaw. Thanks for all your great tips and tricks.
Our pleasure! Thanks, after a little practice on some scrap you will no doubt be a smooth operator! 😎👍
Great explanation and demonstration.Sure it will end my struggles getting straight cuts.
Me too!
Good info, thank you for the demonstration and showing the band saw cutout example!
That was awesome. The larger pieces sure help to visualize what you are saying. I had to subscribe because of this video.
Thanks for sharing this. I will try it when I use the bandsaw next
wow, that changes the game a lot!! thanks for making the model and the demonstration!!!!
Thank you, making the model was kinda fun! We just posted a short video of that process too 👍
Thank you Tom and Kris. I've seen this technique demonstrated before but never with the clarity you've provided. Love your model blade and work piece! Thank you.
Thanks, I enjoyed making the model too! 👍😎
Thanks team T&K for turning on the light bulb on this technique. Anxious to try it out soon!
Thanks for the great tip, the last couple of shots really showed me what you were demonstrating with your oversized blade and kerf. I also love how you explain things so the average woodworker can comprehend. Thanks again! Liked and Subscribed.
Thanks Richard, much appreciated! 👍😎
Thank you for sharing I have a lot of trouble on the bandsaw
Great explanation & demonstration of that blade & technique! You have a new subscriber here! 👍👍🔨🔨
That was a wonderful video. Thank you for your experience and your knowledge.:)
Thanks!! Super job!!
I just received two Timberwolf blades yesterday that I ordered and will try your method for sure. One is a 1/4" blade and I know you said you don't use them because they break easier, my other one did break. Quite an eyeopener when that happens.
Holy moly what an eye opening video! I've had a Craftsman 12" bans saw for over 20 years and never got great cuts which I just attributed to a shaky, under powered, cheap band saw. I recently bought a brand new Harvey 14" 3hp band saw that I am chomping at the bit to put to good use. I finally have something powerful enough to do some re-sawing and other more accurate general use. Can't wait to get my new Timberwolf blades.
All these years I struggled cutting to the line. I was always steering from the front of blade teeth. Never knew about this technique. I will definitely give it a try. Thanks so much for sharing this. I learn a lot watching your vids.
Thank you, much appreciated! 👍😎
@@EpicWoodworking:: does the heel or thicker part of the blade contact the left side or right side of the kerf moving forward ?
Great explanation. Thank you
You are welcome! Thanks 👍
That was really good. I discovered I'm not the only one that can have the blade wander from the line! What you're suggesting is to stabilise the blade by lining up the rear of the blade to the line. I can see how that works to prevent wander, but what about when you're using the machine fence? I guess the starting cut taking up the width of the blade is pretty critical to make sure the rear of the blade is to the line. Must admit I had some bad wander when trying to cut 4" thick oak. Just couldn't get it straight to line so reverted to sawing by hand. That worked but I needed to rest!
Great props. The saw blade prop is my favorite. Good information for band sawing.
certainly in the top one hundred of all time " how two's " on the internet , great demonstration, thanks for sharing it :)
Thanks mate always so helpful 😊
you bet- that was great- just what i needed to know- when i needed to know it
So basically what you are doing is slightly pointing the blade away from the line. I can understand how this works, it keeps the blade from getting sucked into the line and if you do make a mistake it will tend to be into the scrap not into the work piece. It's too late to test this tonight but maybe tomorrow. Thanks and keep the good stuff coming.
Wow! Great presentation!
Great Job, thanks!
Our pleasure! 😎
Great technique wow it works like a charm
Yes it does, thanks! 👍
Fabulous! Thanks 😊
Awesome video I love the expanded form
Awesome the best video of this type I've ever seen.
Thank you so much. I have used . my bandsaw a lot and have the problem you talking about I will try it out tomorrow. Julien
Bandsawing metal, I have settled on a slightly different technique. There is less "set" on the teeth than with a wood blade, but still enough that by pushing the workpiece sideways (at right angles to the cut line) the teeth will exert a slight filing action. So I use a varying amount of push, always just enough to bring the toothed end of the blade right to the point of touching the line (the tiniest amount). It's like positioning a ship in the middle of the Suez canal, NOT by steering it, but by pushing sideways at the midpoint with one or other of two pushboat tugs (one on each side). In metal, if you turn the workpiece to try and get back to the middle of the canal, you always end up "hitting the bank" because the blade is not pointing in the direction you need it to go. I don't know if that's helpful for wood, but mention it just in case.
Thank you, interesting distinction! 👍😎
Great tip and video!
Terrific. Thank you
Good demo!!I call it"RIDING THE BACK OF THE BLADE"
Nice tip.
Call great praise for the three or four people who seem to have sat through that whole thing
Again, a little positivity goes a long way. Actually over 20K people have viewed this video in less than 48 hrs…can it really be that bad?
@@EpicWoodworking “…bad….” was never an issue; time:value was the urgent point of comment.
@@EpicWoodworking “…call great praise….” used to be quite ‘positive’ thank you for the high quality & informative video
Impressive accuracy AND speed of work. This is great for anyone earning from their craft: speed+accuracy=productivity
Thanks for that observation, a well tuned bandsaw with a little practice and good technique can be a pleasure! 👍😎
The last view brought it all together, thank you.
Thank you excellent video. I think it will help me cut better.
Thank you 🙏🏿
My pleasure 👍
Fantastic advice! Thank you! (Why haven't I seen this before?)
Thank you! It’s not a common thing taught, although when you spend enough time at the bandsaw I think you unconsciously begin to adopt this technique. 👍
Thanks! Very interesting. I stumbled onto this because I use a wooden fence and when I angle fence slightly I get a straighter line. Now I know why
Glad it was helpful! Yes, sometimes that’s due to the “drift” angle, a little different concept, and I often do the same thing when using the fence. 👍😎
Good explanation about the practice of bandsaw cutting to a line. The model was a great teaching tool and showed something that I was unaware of: the difference in width of the blade teeth compared to the back of the blade and the kerf. WOW. When you were looking for a term to better describe the "steering" available at the back of the blade, I wanted to say think of a boat rudder...same thing?
Good info I subbed.
Thank you, welcome into the shop! 👍😎
Great job
great! Many thanks.
After watching this in a previous post, I simply could not understand the technique. I gave it a try and discovered that I had to actually lean the piece to make contact with the back of the blade, and then having watched this particular post, the final sequence with the shot from the back of the cut, confirmed my suspicions.
That’s pretty cool.
I do some curves in my home shop and this makes sense. Well done……Dan
Wow love All your clamps you can never have enough Clamps.
Thank you for that information. I’ve always had problems with drifting off the line while cutting on the bandsaw. I have one question though. Are the blade guides suppose to be as close to the blade as possible and will it have an adverse effect if the are either to close or to far away?
This is a great technique. When do we get to see "The Camera Lady"?
The last shots from behind was the aha moment for me. So basically you're angling the work at around half a degree off of square, but then pushing the work through square. Nice technique!
He extra thickness is called Blade Set
Thank you, good to know the actual correct term! 👍
thank you
My pleasure! 👍
Oh, my God. I can't believe you put me through that.
Great! Norm on steroids! I liked and subscribed. Thanks for the effort.
Very nice. I think ... the side of the line to which the sawyer hews will depend on one's dominant eye. Sort of that parallax thing. One COULD stay on either side. But there will be a preference.
Thank you at 78 I can now drive my saw with purpose and a sense of control
suggest preview at about 17:30
Actually, it actually starts at 0:00 😎
Anything else to consider using a 1in blade to resaw wider boards
I'm new to bandsawing, though have carved for years. This is so helpful as my cuts have been swerving. I'm going to give it a try! Also going to subscribe and thumbs up to help your channel! :)
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it…and I need all the help I can get! 😎👍
For people outside of the U.S. it would be nice to inicate the measures in mm also. It's very unconvienent for us to have to convert the imperial measures into metric in our minds. It took me twice as long tot follow your video. Other than that: I learned a lot from you. Thanks!
Terrific model, it was invaluable to my understanding of the skill you were teaching. I had never encountered this before. Now I’m headed off to the workshop to try it myself. Thanks!
Nice demo, but your model blade uses chisel teeth instead of set teeth. Alternate teeth should be on the side of thw kwrf, but the width of the teeth should be the same as the rhickness of thw back of the blade.
Hello if you are cutting the with band saw guid you just cut as normal!
your good.
Tom, are you still focusing on the teeth to aim while steering with the back edge of the blade?
Yes, I am watching the teeth track while closing the gap between the blade and the line, and feeling the steadying affect 👍
I was interessed in the topic but stoppen it on the use of the Imperial messure-use. Fgs, get the decimal…..
@17:30-18:00so one simple technique; “lean (the back of the blade ) against the side that has the line” Is that what y’all heard?
Thanks for the helpful feedback. These videos are recorded live. I’m pretty sure I gave some free value before the 17 min mark…made a model of the blade, explained verbally with the model, and demonstrated the technique live by making 4-5 cuts. Then added that bit about leaning on the side of the line. Please put a little more effort into your commenting style and try to find and say something positive about the free video before the punchy negative downers. Your constructive negative comments would be received much better and I would enjoy knowing you’re watching. 👍
@@EpicWoodworking thanx for the valid reminders on packaging. Thank you for the time and consideration.
I’ve tried to AVOID doing that for the past 35 years because I thought the twist wouldn’t be good for the machine LOL. The length was perfect btw. Faster is not always better, and if the technique is all that is needed, a person can always “grab” the little red dot in the red bar at the bottom and zip ahead to any point in the video they prefer. No need to change a thing.
Your model was great, but due to the low camera angle I could not see how the "blade" was oriented in the kerf.
Hi Michael, just checking to see if you watched until the end because the first view wasn't optimal you're right. As we were live "Greg J" suggested a different angle that seemed to offer a better view. It's towards the end so check it out if you didn't get to stay on that long. Thanks for watching!