Extremely Dangerous Oversize Logs Truck. Famous Wood Processing Mill & Manufacturing Cable Drum

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Extremely Dangerous Oversize Logs Truck. Famous Wood Processing Mill & Manufacturing Cable Drum

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  • Muy bueno Impresionante la rapidez de trabajo.. Amazing woodworking machineries..

    @user-dh1vy7lq3r@user-dh1vy7lq3r4 ай бұрын
  • The processing portion of the facility is cleaner than some food processing facilities ive worked in.

    @MrMarkpark@MrMarkpark5 ай бұрын
  • Wish my Father, who worked most of life at sawmill, were alive to see the automation evolution in making lumber these days.

    @lonniehill3455@lonniehill34559 ай бұрын
    • кино

      @user-jr4cn6zq7h@user-jr4cn6zq7h9 ай бұрын
    • I worked as a sawyer in a small independent sawmill in the early '80s and it was so much more hands on machinery and people having jobs in those days and kind of fun working with the people you knew. Now it's all automated, lasers and computers. The robots have taken over.

      @josephshields2057@josephshields20578 ай бұрын
  • such huge machines working non stop by themselves so precisely without failing. the operators are here only to keep an eye in case something goes wrong. we are speechless watching these wonders created by humans

    @soussasaou@soussasaou8 ай бұрын
    • @soussasaou ".....the operators are here only to keep an eye in case something goes wrong. ....." So, few workers are needed and the rush to China where labor is cheaper being the main argument leaves us where?

      @pindapoy1596@pindapoy15966 ай бұрын
    • ..мы теряем не только дар речи.но разучимся говорить друг с другом. Всё заменят машины..

      @user-nt1bl6cs6m@user-nt1bl6cs6m3 ай бұрын
  • Muy bueno 👍 Impresionante la rapidez de trabajo.

    @albertodiseno1973@albertodiseno19739 ай бұрын
    • Впечатляет как уничтожают деревья, дышать чем будешь сам и твои дети?

      @user-xb1ms4sr1d@user-xb1ms4sr1d8 ай бұрын
  • 저런 훌륭한 목재가 있다는 것은 지구가 정말 살기좋은 곳임을 알려주네요!

    @user-ij7ue7kn8d@user-ij7ue7kn8d9 ай бұрын
  • Amazing woodworking machineries...❤❤❤❤

    @jessacebron2949@jessacebron29499 ай бұрын
    • YOU THINK SO WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH TO WHAT IS HAPPENING

      @tonyjeff9436@tonyjeff94363 ай бұрын
  • One small, but vitality important omission from the shown processes... drying! I don't even want to think about the ensuing messes created by turning wet lumber out into the wilds of various construction. At the very least, as a furniture builder for the past 40 years, I'd cause grievous bodily harm to anyone who ran a board with more than 12% (you can expect a m.c. of as high as 25-30% straight off of a raw log, no matter how long it sits in the yard) moisture content through any of my machines, let alone all the havoc of things blowing into scrapwood once it does begin to dry.

    @tonyradmilovich3154@tonyradmilovich31547 ай бұрын
  • Those who enjoy watching these are an interesting type of people

    @AngeloXification@AngeloXification8 ай бұрын
  • Как будто на Земном шаре успевают вырастать деревья взамен тех, которых попилили с такой скорость. Вот она погибель человечества.

    @alexeyzazulin9@alexeyzazulin96 ай бұрын
    • Tal cual 😢

      @emiliopuente9360@emiliopuente93605 ай бұрын
  • Combien a t-il fallut d' années à ces arbres pour un chantier de confection de ces roues à câbles ? Le "progrès" est trop souvent en inadéquation avec les besoins de la planète ! Merci pour ce reportage

    @eveaquablue0348@eveaquablue03489 ай бұрын
    • Nos están quitando la vida algún día ya no abra oxígeno

      @emiliopuente9360@emiliopuente93605 ай бұрын
  • Excellent video on forestry and distribution of lumber industry. Machinery are just a remarkable ingenuity. Fascinating to watch! Thanks

    @K-ForestryMachines@K-ForestryMachines4 ай бұрын
  • Lived this life for 30 years. Loved it everyday

    @pinetree9343@pinetree93438 ай бұрын
  • لم يبقى شئ اخضر نستمتع به ايام الصيف الحار ..اكره قطع الاشجار ..

    @selverwolf4376@selverwolf43765 ай бұрын
  • Some very innovative methods here. Good example of modernizing the process- less waste, therefore better use of rescources.

    @GORT70@GORT709 ай бұрын
    • Why aren't we using hemp instead of destroying our forests

      @samesryals6952@samesryals69529 ай бұрын
    • @@samesryals6952 I agree completely.

      @GORT70@GORT709 ай бұрын
    • It's called reforestation. As soon as an area is harvested, reforestation crews come in and replant seedlings. Many of the areas being harvested today is "second cut' planted in the 50's or 60's. Have you ever seen hemp being used as a substitute for lumber on construction sites? Would you ever buy one of their houses?@@samesryals6952

      @gordmerrick7336@gordmerrick73366 ай бұрын
  • تحية لصناع الحيااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااة PRAVO💐

    @slimanebenrabah5894@slimanebenrabah58949 ай бұрын
  • That first automated mill was amazing. Dual dado heads trim the bark edge from all four flat planes, then the machine cuts 4 - 1x2s and 4 - 1x4s away from the 6x6 post. Clever!

    @ernestinebass4371@ernestinebass43715 ай бұрын
  • The world wouldn't be the same without these heavy machines.

    @MegaTechnology86@MegaTechnology866 ай бұрын
    • Yes, we need all the horse power to deforest this planet.

      @Lamz..@Lamz..3 ай бұрын
  • Tuyệt vời lắm 👍😍👏💯

    @uchungnguyen7686@uchungnguyen76868 ай бұрын
  • Automation at its finest. These machines flip these logs like toothpicks.

    @ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd@ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd8 ай бұрын
  • DESTRUCTION OF BILLIONS OF TREES THAT GIVE HUMANS THE AIR WE BREATH

    @tonyjeff9436@tonyjeff94363 ай бұрын
  • Автоматизированная 100% деревообработка леса - комплексом агрегатов ! Если эти заводы иностранные , то лесоматериал наверняка с СИБИРИ РФ !

    @user-nz5op6os7e@user-nz5op6os7e9 ай бұрын
    • Горельник никому не нужен...

      @Fisher1961@Fisher19618 ай бұрын
  • Soy de Venezuela me gusta ese trabajo soy motosierrista profesional

    @user-wk3wo5mh8o@user-wk3wo5mh8o2 ай бұрын
  • I use to cart logs into several different log mills each one different to the next, but all produced the same size cuts with a variety of set ups, was very cool sitting s watching.

    @raumorgan5195@raumorgan5195Ай бұрын
  • Thanks provide for video. Hope for next.Amazing work.thanks lot again

    @user-ye8kl8rv2i@user-ye8kl8rv2i2 ай бұрын
  • Wohh super canggi mantap bos❤❤❤

    @ekaarryanto2885@ekaarryanto28854 ай бұрын
  • အလွန့်..အလွန်တို့ထက်..လွန်၍..ပင်..အထူးကျေးဇူးတင်ပါသည်ဗျာ..❤❤😊😊😊..။။

    @hlaokaboutfightiganimalstun@hlaokaboutfightiganimalstun9 ай бұрын
  • ماشاء الله الله يبارك فيكم جميعا

    @bakhouchsaid4155@bakhouchsaid41553 ай бұрын
  • Awesome video Great work !

    @williamhanna5224@williamhanna52248 ай бұрын
  • would a been cool if ya could of show thumbnail pic first.

    @Pushyhog@Pushyhog9 ай бұрын
  • A new look at wood after watching. This..a plank is not just a plank.. the more people strike the more bosses by these machines

    @jennyvanderwesthuizen4321@jennyvanderwesthuizen43218 ай бұрын
  • Такой строевой лес, идёт на изготовление катушек для кабеля...😏👎 А мебель из опилок...🙄

    @user-wd7fp6lr7z@user-wd7fp6lr7z9 ай бұрын
  • Wow very high-tech equipment

    @user-pk4uv8tl5e@user-pk4uv8tl5e8 ай бұрын
  • Сначала спилим все деревья. Затем будем думать чем дышать.

    @sergvilis4239@sergvilis42399 ай бұрын
    • Все идет к погибели

      @user-df1ic8dm2x@user-df1ic8dm2x9 ай бұрын
    • Fortunately most O2 is produced by phytoplankton in the ocean. At the rate we are warming the ocean and polluting it we may be in deep kimchee

      @philgiglio7922@philgiglio79229 ай бұрын
  • wow a lot of machines to make a simple drum

    @clintdaniel9260@clintdaniel92606 ай бұрын
  • Tremenda empresa pero mi pregunta que hacen con tanto aserrín😱😱

    @robertoe.ferrerv.4901@robertoe.ferrerv.49019 ай бұрын
    • //em//.

      @mohdfahmi8841@mohdfahmi88419 ай бұрын
    • Likely turned into charcoal briquettes. That's what Ford did with the sawdust from his wooden coach works

      @philgiglio7922@philgiglio79229 ай бұрын
  • بسیار عالی زنده باد علم وصنعت..

    @EsmailGhanami-mc7eu@EsmailGhanami-mc7eu6 ай бұрын
  • in the other hand it's heart breaking to see all these trees beeing ""killed"" and how many forests have been destroyed. when and how so many trees will grow again and what about the animals who lived there?

    @soussasaou@soussasaou8 ай бұрын
    • Total devastation

      @emiliopuente9360@emiliopuente93605 ай бұрын
  • Если дале таким темпем будет уничтожатся лес,то тогда через 50 лет вообще на земле не останица лес.

    @user-sh1bh8gn7p@user-sh1bh8gn7p9 ай бұрын
    • По твоему пусть лучше пожар уничтожит.Очень жалко не показывают сколько уничтожено пожарами.Оказывается тушить не рентабельно😢

      @Fisher1961@Fisher19618 ай бұрын
  • Мощно, а людям кислорода не хватает🤪🤓😄🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️🙋‍♀️🇷🇺👍

    @user-vq6qs1br7y@user-vq6qs1br7y9 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for the video. Very informative. Interesting to see how are the places to

    @markf350s@markf350s9 ай бұрын
    • Em....!!//!//¡//¡//.

      @mohdfahmi8841@mohdfahmi88419 ай бұрын
  • 6:10- Interesting how at some stage the faces of the timbers are cut into steps. I think that these steps are cut to suit each "log" to minimise wastage?

    @MrPnew1@MrPnew19 ай бұрын
    • its what the scan is determining, the red scan is a laser measuring scanner

      @martinfidel7086@martinfidel70868 ай бұрын
  • Caraca que beleza de mordenidade parabens gostei dessa ideia.

    @luizcosmelemos3300@luizcosmelemos33009 ай бұрын
    • Вы поздравляете себя с тем что ваших потомков лишили будущего ! Термин ,Стокгольский синдром вам знаком?

      @alexdocenko4045@alexdocenko40459 ай бұрын
  • How much downtime for maintenance, sharpening, etc.?

    @dickmeisterling3924@dickmeisterling39247 ай бұрын
  • Heavy machines are the building blocks of American progress, laying the foundation for a better future.

    @MrTechss@MrTechss3 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, who needs trees anyway ...

      @Lamz..@Lamz..3 ай бұрын
  • mesmerizing to watch.

    @546cowboy6@546cowboy69 ай бұрын
  • All of this would get you jail time in USA. Logging thru a viable stream !!! Dragging logs downhill causes severe erosion !!!

    @olddog6658@olddog66589 ай бұрын
    • never thought about this before. very cool.

      @convincingmountain@convincingmountain9 ай бұрын
    • You only go to Jail if you lack the Bank Account, which is how the Entire System works, I laugh at the Notion people believe they give a Crap about the Environment, Money talks.

      @pappysshoes6563@pappysshoes65639 ай бұрын
  • Another captain and me were sailing a 41' ketch to Charleston from Miami for its owner. We'd been sailing all night in the moonless dark and the sun was about 30 minutes from rising. The autopilot had the helm as the radar watched for traffic. Just after we'd sit down to our omelot breakfast, unseen by the radar, this HUGE wooden cable spool went by 25 yards to port! If we had collided with it in the dark, the boat would have gone to the sea floor!

    @LarryButler-kp3se@LarryButler-kp3se9 ай бұрын
    • Thankfully you were safe and didn't sink. You know what they say (which is especially true about driving a car) close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. How many times have we all, almost been in a bad car crash, but missed it by the skin of our teeth?

      @kfl611@kfl6119 ай бұрын
    • Oooh wow. If it wasn't made of wood it wood be plastic waste floating on the oceans.

      @user-lt9qh5sh7e@user-lt9qh5sh7e8 ай бұрын
    • 😮

      @guillermoedgarquispeperez7807@guillermoedgarquispeperez78078 ай бұрын
    • Where does all this timber come from to have this mill plant? The size of this factory must get timber every day to have a plant

      @mexicant407@mexicant4077 ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@mexicant407Millions of rain forests in Central and South America have been decimated by the U.S. cattle industry so they will have cheaper grazing for their cattle. This loss of rain forests has a direct impact on world wide environmental issues. It also destroys the habitat where indigenous human populations reside, thereby displacing entire tribal family groups. Finally, destroying Central and South American rain forests is destroying the winter habitat for our North American migratory birds that spend the winter there. So, come the following spring, there are always going to be fewer and fewer birds returning to the U.S. Now, that is important because our birds can eat their weight in bugs every day, but with fewer birds, we will have more bugs and more disease-which has a direct impact on humans. More disease = higher death toll. So, if we continue to allow the trees to be destroyed, AND if we also allow our environment to be destroyed, we are signing our own death warrant.

      @EffieG-ez9tf@EffieG-ez9tf5 ай бұрын
  • Watching this video reminded me of when I was a sawyer

    @MarceloMotorista@MarceloMotorista6 ай бұрын
  • very interesting value chain process...very nice

    @edwinkaris9602@edwinkaris9602 Жыл бұрын
  • Very amazing thanks to everyone behind this technology

    @georgejuma9221@georgejuma92218 ай бұрын
  • Now is see why a 4x4 is expensive, Very interesting video

    @roncarlson8061@roncarlson80615 ай бұрын
  • Kewujudan kayu yang sangat baik itu menunjukkan bahawa bumi benar benar tempat yang baik untuk hidup kami semua di dunia ini

    @user-rf4fn2hi3h@user-rf4fn2hi3hАй бұрын
  • I really enjoyed that film clip. We have come a long way from only using just an axe.

    @mikeseymour-be1cy@mikeseymour-be1cy6 ай бұрын
  • muy lindo todo pero asi no se frena el calentamiento global esta es una de las causas

    @marianocesarmariani2885@marianocesarmariani28859 ай бұрын
  • Fascinating machines. And the men who operate them are so skilled and talented, exploiting every capability and pushing those machines to their limits. Really brought tears to my eyes watching them working and playing those skidsteers and tractors like musical instruments. Marvelous.

    @JackMorgan-fg9cw@JackMorgan-fg9cw8 ай бұрын
    • Arste aso se comen toda la madera del mundo sin escatimar ni un palo, ya no hace falta gente todo esto entre unos poco en la oficina dos o tres en las máquinas el resto pueden ser los que estén sudando en el monte y pocos y los caminos,no hay más gente repartirlos como mejor lo podáis hacer, pero no hay más, es todo caso más máquinas,, ¿ para que queremos tantas personas en mundo si solo va a ser para mirar todo esto jaleo?

      @carmelogomez2780@carmelogomez27806 ай бұрын
    • Eu nunca vi coisa mais que perfeita do que esse indústria madeireira!!-Parabéns!'👏🏻👏🏻👍👍🙏🏻🙏🏻

      @helenoalmeida769@helenoalmeida7696 ай бұрын
  • The most amazing part of this how do they think of making such machine to do all these functions mind boggling

    @willybowles85@willybowles85Ай бұрын
  • J"aime beaucoup le contraste entre ces machines modernes et le gars qui découpe une souche à la tronçonneuse en tong !

    @guydoline840@guydoline8403 ай бұрын
    • @gradewood@gradewood3 ай бұрын
  • put a stick on one side & an elastic band, wind it up & you have toy tanks (did this at school)

    @simontaylor2319@simontaylor23194 ай бұрын
  • Y después se preguntan porque hace tanto calor

    @jairomunoz3318@jairomunoz33189 ай бұрын
  • wow fascinating , i pulpwooded and logged for 20 years but never knew how the mill works 👍👍👍 great video

    @FrankChesser@FrankChesser8 ай бұрын
    • By UV go UV

      @MobilekKierwik-gl7zc@MobilekKierwik-gl7zc7 ай бұрын
  • I worked in a wire factory we use to take apart reels an would repair them.

    @donnabishop3233@donnabishop32333 ай бұрын
  • The autopilot had the helm as the radar watched for traffic. Just after we'd sit down to our omelot breakfast, unseen by the radar

    @LynnJamie-bd1es@LynnJamie-bd1es4 ай бұрын
  • House slippers that is a nice touch for operating a chainsaw😅

    @teddysmith457@teddysmith4576 ай бұрын
  • Cutting Big, Old Trees should be listed as the Crime of the Century!!!!!

    @bobwilk5155@bobwilk51558 ай бұрын
    • Lol.

      @bartholomewrichards1663@bartholomewrichards16636 ай бұрын
  • Cuanta maquinaria de destrucción!

    @bordariel@bordariel6 ай бұрын
  • To me this a sin.. No wonder there are no forest left.

    @joetow4817@joetow48179 ай бұрын
  • Респект инженерам этой техники

    @user-cr1hg4vd6x@user-cr1hg4vd6x3 ай бұрын
  • Just looking at their yard, they must have well over a million trees ready to go to production to whatever these trees R going to become. We need the trees in order to breathe as they give us the air we need. Trees grow better & faster depending on where they R planted good soil, rain for food & a good warm climate a tree will grow better & faster, so all in all instead of taking 15-20 yrs, it might take 10-15 yrs for a good tree to mature, but whatever the yrs we still need the trees to breathe.

    @user-zf3ho3iq1j@user-zf3ho3iq1j3 ай бұрын
  • If Indonesia had a machine like this, there would definitely be a lot of unemployment

    @gradewood@gradewood3 ай бұрын
  • Question sir . What if the power shut off . Does the electric power use backup. Plan

    @jeraldmcwilson2189@jeraldmcwilson21897 ай бұрын
  • so automated they only need prolly a dozen people in the whole mill! WOW

    @woody3590@woody35903 ай бұрын
  • Way cool! Love your video! ❤❤❤❤❤

    @garymiller5937@garymiller59376 ай бұрын
  • I agree if we could stop "some of the deforestation Of USA our climate problems may get less intense.

    @kensnead5631@kensnead56318 ай бұрын
  • I would like to see the electricity bill for this operation. I was surprised to see men working planing machines without ear protectors.

    @tomarmstrong1281@tomarmstrong12816 ай бұрын
    • You should have had a visit down our Coal Mine in the UK BEFORE IT CLOSED..WE WERE USING OLD FASHIONED hOLMAN wINDY DRILLERS WITH 9FEET LONG DRILL RODS IN bLUE wHINSTONE...ALL DAY LONG DRIVING ROADWAYS THROUGH SOLID STRATA..NOW that WAS NOISE...!!.i HAVE WORKED WITH ALL THE NORMAL WOODWORKING MACHINERY..IT DOESN'T COMPARE..LIKE TOYS!! Just realised Caps was on..too late at night to scrub and start again!! Sorry mate!Cheers Bill in the UK.

      @highpitwilma@highpitwilma2 ай бұрын
  • Many will say those machines take away jobs. And perhaps they do. But someone had to make those machines to run them and service them. So the jobs are just moved to a new area.

    @smartass6071@smartass60718 ай бұрын
  • Might be smart to wear earplugs and maybe safety glasses in some areas of the plant.

    @stephenk.5839@stephenk.58396 ай бұрын
  • Where were the oversized logs???

    @alvarsdzenis4739@alvarsdzenis47398 ай бұрын
  • It makes me very sad to see that forests are exploited with such savage means. This way of exploiting forests cannot be sustainable for the environment. It is extremely wild. I don't understand how they don't notice. Our human species will have serious problems if we continue to exploit Mother Earth like this. It is incredible how they destroy the mountain and the very serious erosion that they cause with these methods of extracting wood.

    @carles1972@carles19728 ай бұрын
    • Nature can be pretty savage if you really watch the animal kingdom predator and prey at work in the forest. Nature BTW, destroys more forest land with lightning and fire than man can do. It's part of the life cycle. Enjoy the world. Take from it what we need just don't abuse it.

      @macgyver504@macgyver5046 ай бұрын
    • You can't have it both ways, it's either plastic or wood.

      @bigredc222@bigredc2226 ай бұрын
  • were is it set

    @googguy59@googguy598 ай бұрын
  • ခုလိုမြင်ရတာကျေးဇူးတသ်ပါတယ် အံ့ဩရကါတယ် တော်တော်နည်းပညာမြင့်ပါတယ်ဟုဂုဏ်ပြုစကားပြောပါတယ်

    @anyway129@anyway1293 ай бұрын
  • i hope they are planting as well as harvesting

    @MrAlan0151@MrAlan01512 ай бұрын
  • Clickbait. The image of the truck carrying the large log is FAKE.

    @Yankee7000@Yankee70009 ай бұрын
  • Das ist ja Richtiger Raubbau °!!!

    @peterabe5485@peterabe54852 ай бұрын
  • How/when do they bend and twist them up to sent to Home Depot?

    @stevekluge4224@stevekluge42245 ай бұрын
  • Very cool but, safety glasses? Hearing protection? Yep, it's dangerous work. Somebody's gonna lose an eye!

    @BowlesTroy@BowlesTroy9 ай бұрын
    • Can we hear our moms saying 'You are going to poke your eye out doing it like that'?

      @kfl611@kfl6119 ай бұрын
  • Без боли на это смотреть невозможно.

    @ehrtyfihg7284@ehrtyfihg72849 ай бұрын
  • Nossa quer sabedoria ne tem os cara

    @maria-ql4ms@maria-ql4ms8 ай бұрын
  • A clickbait thumbnail and lots of pirated footage already seen elsewhere

    @jimstrainsandstuff9539@jimstrainsandstuff95394 ай бұрын
  • 😮😮😮 pabrik kayu yang sangat canggih , di Indonesia kebanyakan pemotongan manual pakai chainsaw dan mesin rakitan

    @pekerja27@pekerja273 ай бұрын
    • Betul sekali.. Silahkan tonton video saya tentang penggergajian kayu

      @gradewood@gradewood3 ай бұрын
  • Çok iyi yaa...

    @husamettinzaferturk8120@husamettinzaferturk81209 ай бұрын
  • QUÁ OK LUÔN

    @nguyenloc2750@nguyenloc27504 ай бұрын
  • Such hard work that these guys put out as laborers in such rural conditions and such little pay

    @user-gs3zg1du7v@user-gs3zg1du7v6 ай бұрын
    • Batsın sömürü düzeni..🇹🇷🤔🙂

      @eliwallach66@eliwallach666 ай бұрын
  • i am a cabinet maker like that 30 inch planer wow

    @lincolnswaby3102@lincolnswaby31028 ай бұрын
  • Esa es la industria que colabora con el cambio climático cuántas extarias sembraron en el lugar de donde se tala esa madera????? Sería bueno investigar a fondo.

    @orlandoestrada4984@orlandoestrada49849 ай бұрын
    • Прожить сегодня а завтра хоть потоп суть человечества

      @user-df1ic8dm2x@user-df1ic8dm2x9 ай бұрын
  • A fake thumbnail. That is so disgusting ...

    @ralfhartmann5050@ralfhartmann50509 ай бұрын
  • Amazing... 👍👍

    @cahsolo197@cahsolo197 Жыл бұрын
  • so there is a log ride, you know...for the logs.

    @squirt12@squirt12Ай бұрын
  • Tehnologi orang luar negeri itu emang sangat luar biasa sekali lo guys beda sama yg ada di negara kita indonesia itu mereka bisa membuat mesin 2 yg sangat spektakuler skl bahkan tehnologi negara kita ini msh klh sama ne😂negara lain lo guys sèperti as dan juga china itu mereka sangat maju dibidang apa saja ok mntp and joooooos gandos tenan 😂😂😂

    @user-px8bu8uy5f@user-px8bu8uy5f3 ай бұрын
  • A necessidade do homem não pode ultrapassar a capacidade da natureza.

    @jorgealbertosilvadesouza1752@jorgealbertosilvadesouza17524 ай бұрын
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