Even though Greece is a predominately Christian Orthodox country, there are some people in this country who still believe in the 12 Gods of mount Olympus, deriving from Greek Mythology. According to unofficial sources they amount to a couple of hundreds and present themselves as members of the unofficial so-called "Greek Religion". This is a mixture of beliefs that combine paganism, the idea of spiritual connection with nature and a kind of fixation to the Ancient Greek ideals. Over the past decades they have founded various different groups, the oldest and most popular among them being the "Greek Naionals High Commissioned Council (GNHCC) - Υπατο Συμβούλιο Ελλήνων Εθνικών," founded 30 years ago.
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If you think your god is real, why can't they believe their god is real. None of you can't even prove he's real anyways so let them worship Zeus and his buddies.
p.d d.p exactly!
you can prove numina est nuiminas were real I believe in est graecus
*And his fuckbuddies if you know what I mean haha
p.d d.p yeah honestly this is the best comment about religion that being free to all religion is nice and lovely
Well said, bro. I too think this deserves the same amount of respect of any other religion.
"The fact that after almost 2,000 years or so, in those places, the Hymn to Poseidon will be heard." - That was powerful.
It really wasn't.
Your a loser!
I literally teared up when she said that, her faith and conviction was so beautiful.
13:59 What music is this? It's so calming
@Constantinople Walls non of that is true at all...
Interesting fact: the Greek government recognised the Hellenic pantheon 7 years ago, April 9 of 2017
That's good news then.
Is it seen as a cult over there as the Jehovah's Witnesses for example?
@@delegsgsg6353 no probably 90% or more of the Greek population haven't met a person who believes in the Hellenic Pantheon, but as an ordinary Greek person myself, i would just be curious about their life. All Greeks are extremely proud of our history and culture and i think most of us would be kinda happy if we meet a person like them.
@@delegsgsg6353 It's considered a minority religion. Like Buddhism or Islam in most of the Western world.
@@mistythemischievous2013 I'd say it's even worse because there are many people who don't know there are people who believe in this religion. Even in Greece
Apparently because the Greek Orthodox Church also rules the government, if you aren’t Christian you’re seen as an outsider in Greece. These people continuing centuries old traditions are putting themselves in a tough spot in society but it’s so beautiful
Lol , That didn't age well 😂
@@sotirisl9388why? What's happened?
@@epbrothers887 secularist policies such as legalization of homophilia and gay marriage/adoption
@@epbrothers887 Hellenism has been officially recognised as a religion in 2017 in Greece.
Atheists: The god you believe in, also happens to be the one your parents told you to believe in Neo-Pagans: Hold my wine
This made me laugh XD
Neo pagans:The god you believe in is the god you found out your people in the past may have used to have followed,not considering there may be older gods your people used to follow,which people just haven’t discovered yet or that your ancestors may have came from different lands.
@@exposeevil5492 Are you? That's a shame.
I'm an atheist n tbh I support Hellenism their religion is kinda cool n aesthetic than Christianity or Islam which had crusades n Islamic invasions
@@user-rn5dl6tf8r What crusades did Christians have? Knights Templars are not a Christian group. Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma says: *Knights Templars is now known as Hermetics, occult or Scottish Freemasonry.* See my video Knights Templars=Scottish Freemasonry. In that same book it says: *"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it not!"*
I'm Greek and I respect these people. Personally, I'm Orthodox Christian but I totally get these people. Sadly, many Greeks consider them 'trash'.
there should be more people like you, respectful and open minded. 💕
Lol why are they trash?
why do people consider them trash? that means they consider their own ancestors trash too!
@Constantinople Walls omg i didn't know that... do u have any source that backup ur statement? some news on the internet??
@Constantinople Walls i'm indonesian i don't read greek, and i read the article... oh that is disgusting! any act of violence from any religion cannot be justified! i hope the pagans and christians can coexist peacefully in Greece!
The Olympics started as a festival to honor Zeus, so Zeus Worship still happens today.
Thanks. At least of you is educated
No it doesnt.
Latins when they call God,they speak to him by the name dias which it is the first name of Zeus So their is alot more worshiping than you think
Tha games were for Appolo.
@@Freedomofexpressi100 Apollo Lord God you mean.
It so beautifull.. I am a Hindu and we believe that religion is a personal journey to the god,no path is wrong ❤️❤️ much love to them.. and there are so many positive comments towards them from people of all religions , it's makes it so wholesome...much love to them..
It is according to us that no path is wrong But what about others They straight up say we will go in hell 😂 We can just laugh on them
@Inspired by many I think both of them worship some Hindu gods and goddess
Well said!! 🤝💯💯
Well said!! 🤝💯💯
@MUMBAI ki KIRAN BEDI 80-85% Japanese Gods are Hindu Gods with Japanese names.
It’s a religion that has existed for thousands and thousands of years Greeks created so much beauty in the world
And so much fucked up things
@@iamwhoyoucall2329 kzhead.info/sun/nNWCpdt-aJicpXk/bejne.html
Thank you and we now that that the ancient worship of the Gods was mythology..
Let's stick to the beauty that was created then and not to their silly beliefs, in a time that electricity was not even invented. The most prominent philosophers like Socrates, Aristotle and Plato tended to believe that there is 1 higher power rulling the universe which is closest to the viewpoint of abrahamic religions
13:59 What music is this? It's so calming
So did I understand this correctly: If you convert to Islam your faith is recognized by the greek government but if you believe in your cultural roots - the greek gods - your religion won't be classified as a religion....?
Islam also has a cultural root. After Byzantine fell, the Ottoman Empire took over Greece and the Balkans.
***** the fuck does that have to do with anything? That is the ugliest ad hoc argument I've ever seen. The Greek religion has a stronger cultural than islam so what's your point?
Yep. Greece has cut the roots (except for those people) from the old religion. Islam had nothing to do with Greece after the Turks got kicked out of the peninsula and they were more or less eradicated during the Greek revolution in the 1820's. Islam is now recognized because of a small Islamic minority that still lives close to the border with Turkey and that stayed in Greece due to a convention (after its last expansion and dispute with the Turkish). Finally, these days there are lots of muslin immigrants in Greece.
Well Islam is a much larger and more recognized religion. Also the Greek Pantheon has very few followers.
TheSympathize That Islam is rooted into the Greek state? The Ottomans were muslims, the Greeks were ruled by a muslim Empire for 500 years until about 100 years ago.
Hello from an Irish celtic polytheist in ireland!!! Keep fighting the good fight!!! From one pagan to another!
That’s called a Druidist
@@Manoatevarua pagan?what is pagan?
@@kashutosh9132 Someone who follows a Polytheistic religion (a religion that worships many gods)
@@Manoatevarua ok,thanks
Hello from an Austrian Pagan.
I'm a Norse/Celtic pagan and I am very grateful that so many people are returning to the old ways. I respect the Olympians and hope more people follow soon!
Same. I myself have been trying to find the gods of my ancestors but it's difficult being one of native american and Spanish ancestry.
@@ManatedMan where you from
@@adarsh8099 don't you think it's people's own business what their faith is? why do you wish europeans all become pagans???
@@adarsh8099 i'm sorrry for your experience. i definitely don't think missionaries are a good thing, people should convert to any religion on their own terms. i'm just confused how you think that the solution to disrespectful missionaries that are harassing people is for the entirety of europe to become pagan again?
Cheers (to the Allfather Odin) I just guessed after reading Norse. High five ;-P
Hindus still worship their polytheist gods, yet no one says anything about that. Why is it a big deal when Europeans worship their Olympians?
Beyond Light Because it actually isn't a big deal.
Vegan Babe they lack in number,that’s why.We wouldn’t even know they exist if not this video.(At least for me,it was new information)
Who said that. We Hindus are mocked for our polytheistic beliefs.
AJAY RAY good you said not all. Because I AM a polytheistic Hindu.
Tasia Briseño lol greek paganism is not peaceful, many wars in the ancient times when the greeks all worship olympic pantheon waged wars in the name of their greek gods & patron of their kingdoms. Even atheist wage wars, peaceful people is not inherited by religion, it is achieved.
I'm a Christian but I believe everyone has a right to their religion and to practice it. As long as you aren't killing people...
Christianity is evil. It is genocidal. Galatians 3:28
Don’t no one has the right we are sinners we shouldn’t be alive but god gave us the gift we should use it wisely
@@DC-zk7fd Your "god" doesnt exist. Your "god" is an appropriation of an Egyptian deity named Aten. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atenism
@@joebob914 Another edgy atheist spotted
@@cruzadoilegal9084 I'm not an atheist :)
Chrisitians and in general will call Greek and even Hindu stories as Mythology, but christian stories are not mythology lol...
OMFG...SO TRUE
Christians and Muslims are monotheistic but monotheism does not have a good story polytheism has beautiful stories values morals
@@amongussus4 doesnt matter lol... that’s not a valid arguement
@@3000A.D did you read my comment?? 100% no I was saying polytheism has more wonderful stories than monotheism And more festivals to unite people I am hindhu polytheist but god is everything and nothing but culture is happiness I was saying something else pls don't assume people's words
In India we call "Indra", ancient Greece religion is very similar to Hinduism our gods are same, may be some aliens 👽
As a indian Sanatani(hindu) i feel so proud and lucky that even 1000 years of oppression our culture didn't end and last left oldest civilization I pray for them ,and hope the best for them
Worshipping stones is nothing to be proud of
@@dreamhigh5250 worshiping a god who got killed by a simple humans I only imagine lol weak ass
@@dreamhigh5250 worshipping black cube and considering a dead man to be a god is also nothing to be proud of
@@annn1940nobody worships black cube and dead man these are all pagan concept
Although Christianity is not a oppression religion that's brought to Roman empire by jews. Actually Christianity is invented by a Romans Greek name Paul. Jesus doesn't want a religion..it's the Greek Romans who created it. Christianity means followers of the Jewish messiah. Christ in Greek means in English is Messiah/to.follow the Jewish messiah.... It's funny though because the Romans are the one who killed Jesus because they don't believe that he is a Jewish messiah but later after 300 years in 300AD they accepted Jesus as Messiah while the Jews rejected Jesus as their very own messiah (defender, saviour)
We built 3 temples in greece and the religion is now recognized and can do rituals in temples
Really happy for you guys
Rituals? I hope you do not kill any animlas
@@nikosvovos No they don't
Nice
Just found this comment after years, its beutifal to see the progress and its happening world wide. Ancient faiths are coming back.
Japanese still have Faith in Shinto . Chinese still have faith in Taoism. Indians still have faith in Hinduism/Vedic Dharma. Greeks waiting for you ...
true that
You forgot about the Slavs, who believe in their original gods.
Not many tho. And they don't still believe. They believe again. There is no continuity.
What about the Egyptians and Mesopotamians?
@Monica Beal u'r stupid person... Allah means god in arabic.. it's the same god of abraham (pbuh).. Islam consider Abraham (pbuh) & Ismael (pbuh) as their forefather. just ask a jew or a muslim, they'll tell u they worship the same god unlike Christianity. Christianity is a different religion unlike jews and muslims.. they believe in trinity. Allah or Yahweh is the only one god.
This makes my heart feel so seen. I’m a Hellenic Polytheist in the United States, and I don’t often get to interact with people of the same religion. My only option is to interact with others online, but seeing people communing together in person to honor the Gods so beautifully is very special to me. I’m very grateful this video and the people in it exist; and, as always, to the Gods for the beauty they fill our existence with.
Don't worry Churchill sorting it out
How can someone believe in such malakies
As an Indian, should I be glad that my culture and my traditions have been protected for thousands of years? Even though we had Arabs invade our land, and convert few people into Muslims. British colonized us and tried to convert few people into Christians. They did fail to consume our country and make it another Egypt, Persia(where they are just Wannabe-Arabs in the country) or Greece. Persians had their own religion, Zoroastrianism. We rarely have people who believe in Norse mythology or Greek mythology. It's good to see Greeks trying to protect their culture.
Come to Christ! That's how Europe was United!
@@ghxghb4291 ha more like turned in on itself 300 years aftwr Christianity Rome collapsed setting us back 1000 years technologically All medical research was branded necromancy any one found practicing it was killed Alot of people died of potentially preventable ailments as a result Entire cultures rewritten after being wiped from the earth to suit a narrative (genocide included) And last but not least the church protecting people who harm children because it's between them and "god" who forgives them anyway Ironically Christianity says know them by their works yet doesn't exactly ever apply it to itself It's a vampire that has tormented the lower echelons of Europe and more for ages Alot about it actually matches narcissistic abuse tatics as well hence why it started failing after it lost its sword arm.
@@ghxghb4291 chill out there mate this aint brainwashing site please go somewhere else lmao.
@@ghxghb4291 yeah europe was so united under christianity, so united they had 2 schisms the second one in which resulted in brutal wars (protestant vs catholic)
@@ghxghb4291 witch hunting was also not unity btw, thats forceful violence, the christians were the only ones getting to enjoy unity, witches on the other hand got to unite their flesh with flames that’s the only unity these specific europeans got
at least they're not harming anyone let them be
Greeks believe in Jesus
+Jason Bright Myths Islam is the true religon
Jason Bright Islam is its own religon not a hybrid or a myth the greek MYTH is however a myth. Islam predicted many of the occurrences today from 1000 - 10000 years ago!
Jason Bright Islam is unique. And were before most of those religons...
Jason Bright Most people spread lies about Islam but read the Quran!
I'm a persian zoroastrian (religion of ancient persia) girl from iran!🇮🇷 Zoroaster is my prophet and father forever!☝️ Respect to the ancient greeks❤
Parysatis Shahrokhi Well my ancestors was Zoroastrian in thousand years ago but the convert Islamic But I respect Zoroastrian religion
As a real zoroastrian, can I ask you what dou you think about Nietzsche ?
What do you think bout Jesus?
@Cheetos Martini ok millenial.
Parysatis Shahrokhi SURRENDER YOUR LIFE TO JESUS CHRIST AN- nah I’m kidding I’m Buddhist what am I doing😂Excuse me of my weirdness😂 you have a really interesting and beautiful name btw🙃
I am Serbian, of distant Greek origin, and all since late high school, I have considered myself very close to the beliefs of the Greek Pantheon. When I lived in Canada, I was filling a form, a questionnaire. I had to circle the religion I belonged to. There were many world's religions listed. And there was the option "Other" with an empty line. I circled "Other" and wrote "Greek Pantheon" in the empty line. That was in 2003. I am so happy to see that this now really exists. I am so proud of my Greek origin.
Good for you. I look forward to a future where people can more comfortably follow in the kind of religious/spirutal footsteps you have followed.
Το αίμα νερό δεν γίνεται ! Να είσαι καλά !
Wow being Hindu I thought that we are the only polytheistic religion that are left in this world who have a sufficient majority but its surprising and good to see that are cousins from West are still with us and are thriving. Hail lord Zeus, Hail lord Indra.
They are taking this because of us Taking inspiration from hinduism Similar to neo paganism in German, neo slavic
@@jayantpatra3710 Japanese shinto left the chat.
Hinduism is monotheistic,Pantheistic,Panentheistic and henotheistic faith
Hindus can be 1.Monotheistic 2. Henotheistic 3. Pantheistic 4. Panentheistic It is way of life not religion
@@kikaa1884 Yes, but all of these religions gods are subordinate to a higher set of laws of balances, and counter-balances, or at least they retain their conscious self-awareness as deities while fitting into those higher laws like puzzle pieces to make a whole. The Norse would call it Orlog, the Greeks called it cosmos, and the Hindus call it the atman: the god that is non-existent, and alive at the same time that everything fits into to make up the universe; it's kind of a Schrödinger's Cat paradox on a universe-wide scale.
Wait, so they can't perform ceremonies at the Parthenon? Wasn't it dedicated to Athena? Shouldn't they have more rights than anyone at these temples??
yeah it's hard to do that, I'm Hellenistic but I also know that the Parthenon now it's estremely fragile (thx christianity and islam, again). So in my opinion it's better to preserve it's beauty and pray in a new built temple
Why should they have more rights? Just because some guy came up with this Neo-Pagan movement?
Trax-3 not more individual rights, but more so personal rights to worship in a temple originally designated for that purpose, instead of barring them from their place of worship for say, tourism.
@@valimantas6427 but they placed a bomb there right? Or was it an earthquake , anyway , it should be restored and hellenistic pagans should be allowed to worship there
It was also the place where they kept their treasury
Ancient and native religions are always valid. Abrahamic religions are not the only ones in the world.
Christian : "BUT CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION.. I-ITS THE TRUTH! :') "
Ancient aesthetics are valid. Not religion. They are simple "priests of souvenirs" just like 99% of abrahamic god's sectarians.
@Zu please respect abramic religion or we might crusade you
@@greenergrass4060 Lol that describes my entire family 😂
@@greenergrass4060 to us it is
I'm so happy there are people out there in Greece that are keeping this important religion and culture alive that shaped the modern world as we know it today. All the power to them and I hope they get the recognition they deserve throughout the government and the international world.
this is not true
@@oli0cp1.qgjf6vs5go drown in you own man gravy
Bro greeks were the first to accept crhistianity more than 2000 years of orthodoxy in greece they are christians
It's not really important. Just because the Greeks achieved such a lot under that faith it doesn't mean that they achieved it *because* of that faith.
@Heinrich_himmler1939 some religions did help by allowing prosperity and peace as well as a deeper philosophical understanding, but the dodecatheist religion was literally built around gods killing and raping eachother lol.
Much respect to these people for upholding their heritage ,from a Hindu. Jai Bhavani
@Ggh Bhg What will ye do SANTA CLAUS?!
@Ggh Bhg *Well I was paid the double amount of what you were paid for this from Judas.*
@Ggh BhgJudas pays all of us ,didn't you know? lmao!
@Ggh Bhg You hope too much love I don't hate Santa, he looks cute. You called me Bhakt, so I called you Santa simple
@Ggh Bhg for the record I don't hate Christianity ,I like the Greek culture that's it. It was you who assumed that I did , It was you who picked a fight. You didn't ask me , nor did you want to listen or understand, So I thought I might as well play your game, that's it. As for becoming Christian , why should I?, I see no reason to be one, we Hindus are henotheists mostly, we believe that there are several paths to the divine and all of them are right. I have no issue with your faith and I would never tell someone to convert, I respect their beliefs, I have gone to churches, and I have gone to Dargahs of Muslims, I see divine in them like how I see it in the Temples and by feeling the divine within me and around me , I am at peace with my beliefs, so I have no reason to change it.
beautiful , truly beautiful , especially when that lady almost cried and said that after 2,000 years the hymn of Poseidon is still heard ,it's great to see that greeks are still preserving the religions of their forefathers ,nonetheless , whether it is orthodox or olympian , Greece is always fascinating
@@exposeevil5492 This has nothing to do with the Bible or Babylon. This is from their forefathers. It's Indo-European in origin and Greek in nature.
@@avzarathustra6164 *Japheth- One of Noah's sons.* *Japhetic- In linguistics, Indo-European* Webster's delux unabridged dictionary 2nd edition. Noah is from the bible by the way.
@@avzarathustra6164 Easton's bible dictionary *"Setting aside the cases where the ethnic names employed are of doubtful application, it cannot reasonably be questioned that the author [of Genesis 10] has in his account of the sons of Japheth classed together the Cymry or Celts (Gomer), the Medes (Madai), and the Ionians or Greeks (Javan), thereby anticipating what has become known in modern times as the `Indo-European Theory,' or the essential unity of the Aryan (Asiatic) race with the principal races of Europe, indicated by the Celts and the Ionians. Nor can it be doubted that he has thrown together under the one head of 'children of Shem' the Assyrians (Asshur), the Syrians (Aram), the Hebrews (Eber), and the Joktanian Arabs (Joktan), four of the principal races which modern ethnology recognizes under the heading of `Semitic.' Again, under the heading of `sons of Ham,' the author has arranged `Cush', i.e., the Ethiopians; `Mizraim,' the people of Egypt; `Sheba and Dedan,' or certain of the Southern Arabs; and `Nimrod,' or the ancient people of Babylon, four races between which the latest linguistic researches have established a close affinity" (Rawlinson's Hist. Illustrations).*
@@exposeevil5492 From Wikipedia. "As Christianity spread across the Roman world, it carried the idea that all people were descended from Noah. But the tradition of Hellenistic Jewish identifications of the ancestry of various peoples, which concentrates very much on the East Mediterranean and the Near East (described below), became stretched and its historicity questioned. Not all Near Eastern people were covered, and northern peoples important to the Late Roman and medieval world, such as the Celtic, Slavic, Germanic, and Nordic peoples were not covered, nor were others of the world's peoples, such as sub-Saharan Africans, Native Americans, and peoples of Central Asia, the Indian subcontinent, the Far East, and Australasia. A variety of arrangements were devised by scholars in order to make the table fit, with for example the Scythians, who do feature in the tradition, being claimed as the ancestors of much of northern Europe." The Bible has nothing to do with Indo-Europeans inherently. Traditional Greek gods are descendants of Proto Indo-European gods and religion. The Bible may get the recordings of some Caucasoid peoples right, but no, it does not get all of them, and it by no means anticipated the Indo-European theory. And I've never seen anyone equate "Asiatic" with "Aryan".
@@avzarathustra6164 *Wikipedia is NOT CREDIBLE!* You could of put that in on Wikipedia. Bible covers all man just not under the names they made up! They destroyed common man English and replaced it with LEGALESE aka languages of the courts.
I'm an atheist, but who am I to say that these people are morally wrong? That one woman had so much faith she was crying about her religions hymns being brought back once more. The Greek gods and goddesses are what made the Greeks heritage so rich. Some of their inventions have been modified throughout history, and we wouldn't have these inventions without their minds. If we let this couture die, the understanding of their knowledge does with them. I find it ironic that the people who started voting and having the peoples voice heard over the government, is doing the opposite of that. As long as they aren't hurting people and they aren't forcing people to believe what they do, what is the harm?
Exactly I am an Atheist who believe in some pagan practices and these people are oppressed. I feel bad for them because of this stuff.
Right, who are you to say that a person who chooses to torture and rape small children is wrong? No one should ever have the right to judge or condemn the actions of another, no matter how vile or disgusting they may be. Every person should have the right to do whatever it is they please, and because right and wrong don't technically exist - even the most abhorrent crimes should receive the same objective status.
just watch out for the cops
AquaLajo you would be a fool to believe that there even is a right or wrong as there is no such thing because the only thing that exists are events that lead to other events, it's called the natural order of life
Pagans everywhere are grateful for your support.
Goosebumps : 9:24 Felt some vibes By the way i am Hindu..i respect ancient Greeks...om shanti 🕉️
Yes
@@bikdigdaddy Lord Maha Vishnu 8th Avtar Lord Krishna Said In Bhagvadgeeta In Mahabharath "Yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbhavati bharata Abhythanamadharmasya tadatmanam srijamyaham" Paritranaya sadhunang vinashay cha dushkritam Dharmasangsthapanart- hay sambhabami yuge yuge Meaning: "Whenever, O descendant of Bharata, there is decline of Dharma, and rise of Adharma, then I body Myself forth. For the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked, and for the establishment of Dharma I come into being in every age." The same thing happened for our Sanathan Dharma(Hinduism) around 8th century A.D.There was a time when there was a complete chaos in the society and Hindu religion was almost nearer to getting vanished.Nihilism was at peaks and there was no one who could stop them.Rituals like yagnas were stopped.Sanathan Dharma(Hinduism)was in complete danger which was surrounded by 72 anti vedic religions ,Buddhism and jainism popular among them. Then,as said above,whenever there is decline of dharma Lord himself comes for establishment of dharma Socame the greatest philosopher, scholar,logician who is incarnation of Lord Shiva himself "ADI SHANKARACHARYA", Chatrapati Sivaji,Krishna Deva Raya Against Mughals, 1857 Revolt Against British Swami Vivekananda,raja ram mohan roy Against British and christian missonaries Lord Krishna And Lord Shiva Protected Sanathan Dharma
@@arunreddy4778 हम बच गये इन क्रिश्चियन और इस्लामी लुटेरों से नहीं तो हमारा हाल रोमन,ग्रीक, मेसोपोटामियन, इजिप्शियन धर्मां की तरह होता।
Yeah bro craxy hoosebumps tho idk if it is from the cringe cause im greek
I was shocked when I realized that one of the most important hindu scripture manuscript dates 400 years ago. A religion full of myth that are hard to defend
As a fellow Indo-European, Mediterranean brother I love them keeping their tradition alive. 🇪🇸❤️🇬🇷
The fact they summoned pan first because they have no temple to visit is actually really cool. Calling upon the God of the wilderness to protect you before starting a formal ceremony is logical in a theological perspective.
Also, Arcadia where they did this is the ancient realm of Pan.
Yeah, like that's so cool they acknowledging other gods in the place. I wish I can visit and learn their religion. Like have a read on the modern take on Zeus worship.
That's usually what I do. My first ritual is to Cerrnunos, then I do my other rituals especially during the spring equinox.
In the Bible it clearly states that the god of the desert is satan
@@flufferthekitten3739 just read about Hellenism and you’ll get the info you need.
Even though I am an atheist, and very much an anti-theist this brought a tear to my eye. I’ve always been extremely fascinated by Hellenism/Olympianism. The Gods and culture of Ancient Greece are so unbelievably interesting and intricate. The ceremony was beautiful; the chanting, the white dresses and the offerings. I’ve been studying the societies of Ancient Sparta & Athens and have been loving every bit of it. I think this documentary mainly should’ve been focusing on their practices and beliefs rather than the politics about it. I also found the reporter to be quite disrespectful, especially towards the end.
Thank you
Same here
arcadia where that ceremony was being held is close to sparta.
Christian what did you expect if you want my friend I can give you proofs that Christianism is a copy paste of hellenism I can give you proof that Christianism is the biggest lie on earth
You're an anti theist but you respect pagans.... You're an idiot!
Love Pagan Greece, beautiful religon and culture. I hope it revives in the future.. as a Hindu , i found paganism has a lot in common with Hinduism..❤🕉🙏 Love and respect from India 🇮🇳🕉
Hara Hara Mahadeva Shambo Shankara Om Namah Shiva
Yes Hindus also offer milk to Shiva, oil to Shani(Saturn god) & maruti.
@@bhagyeshmali5714 Lord Maha Vishnu 8th Avtar Lord Krishna Said In Bhagvadgeeta In Mahabharath "Yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbhavati bharata Abhythanamadharmasya tadatmanam srijamyaham" Paritranaya sadhunang vinashay cha dushkritam Dharmasangsthapanart- hay sambhabami yuge yuge Meaning: "Whenever, O descendant of Bharata, there is decline of Dharma, and rise of Adharma, then I body Myself forth. For the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked, and for the establishment of Dharma I come into being in every age." The same thing happened for our Hindu religion around 8th century A.D.There was a time when there was a complete chaos in the society and Hindu religion was almost nearer to getting vanished.Nihilism was at peaks and there was no one who could stop them.Rituals like yagnas were stopped.Hinduism was in complete danger which was surrounded by 72 anti vedic religions ,Buddhism and jainism popular among them.Then,as said above,whenever there is decline of dharma Lord himself comes for establishment of dharma Socame the greatest philosopher, scholar,logician who is incarnation of Lord Shiva himself "ADI SHANKARACHARYA", chatrapati sivaji Against Mughals, 1857 Revolt Against British Swami Vivekananda,raja ram mohan roy Against British
@THE CALIPHATE bro you need to read history of india once again, paganism and hinduism is Indo-European relegon,we aren't influenced by peganisam . Ok😀
@THE CALIPHATE actually Greek gods are influenced by Hinduism So many Greek gods are similar to our gods
The comments are all positive, but why are there so many Christians arguing in the replies. They act as if people worshipping their own religion is threatening them on an existential level. Edit: I know not all Christians act like this, it’s good that they can at least respect them, or leave them alone.
To a lot of Christians it IS an existential threat. Christianity tends to view things as a zero sum game. Either everyone worships their God, or they're "losing".
I think it's because the theological foundation of Christianity is built around exclusivity of their god, that any other divine being is an imposter and is misleading people to damnation. The irony is that, in my opinion, what a lot of what Christians believe in, like an afterlife, Heaven, where there is beauty and peace with those who came before, justice, mercy, honor, family, have roots in pre-Christian theology and philosophy of the soul. Many Christians don't understand that their forebears were not "wicked" or "immoral", but good people who admired their native faiths, faiths with very similar ethical values that were not only similar to them, but directly influenced the religion they practice; even the name God is derived from Deus (Latin God) = Dyeus (Proto-Indo-European )= Diwe = Zeus (or Tiwaz in Proto-Germanic, Dias in Thracian, Dei in Illyrian, Dyaus in Sanskrit), Divo in Slavic, ect. When Abrahamic faiths spread across Europe, the missionaries ensured the European gods and goddesses, including the god of the heavens, Deus, in particular, morphed into a different personas, God for Deus, and the other deities as saints. Today, the brainwashing is heavier in most Christian denominations to dislike European culture, and myths in particular.
@Dark Executioner i hate Christianity so much. They have erased a lot of culture and religion it's fucked up
Greek religion is the homeland religion while Christianity was imposed by fire and iron. Christianity was used as a Tool of Power - Sacred Examination. . Greek religion has never been the tool of power.
@@kingofpunks2698didn't Mughals and Britishers slaped Hindus pretty hard
Hearing that sweet lady speak of speaking her hymn to Poseidon, in a sacred place where it hadn't spoken in around 2000 years, was very touching. I find what these people are doing here, to be very beautiful! It'd be lovely to see more people embrace the ways that were lost, forsaken and stolen from their/our ancestors.
Just because it's their old ways doesn't make their religion true
Just because you have difficulty ever divorcing yourself from messianic religion, doesn't really imply anything about other religions Conner.
Gabriel Aderre, very well said. I felt the same about that touchingly profound truth about Poseidon's hymn after 2000 years… wow!
I believe in Zeus, it is joke! Then why believe in Christian god is not joke! A religion wants everyone doesn't believe to go to hell has tolerance and respect? It is a lie! Abraham cult Christian islam Jewish !
Conner Broeker what makes christianity any more true?
I love seeing those girls with flowers in their hair singing to Poseidon
Poseidon,zeus and another gods were our real religion,no the christianity that some others bring here.
Fuck yes. Shit is hot.
looks like midsommar scene
@@szymanowski7 And you know how it ends up...
@@giannisgiannis870 So you think women have no soul, that they are like animals, as the ancient greeks did?
That's what Greeks are supposed to believe to. Christianity has nothing to do with the Greek culture its a Jewish Religion with 2000 year history. Believing to the Greek gods would've make a much bigger sense.
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Dude Greeks made Christianity what it is today. The word CHRIST is of Greek origin
@@i_likemen5614 jesus was a jew,the apostles were Jewish,the god of Christianity is the god of Abraham True,some greeks played a pivotal role in the establishment of early Christian churches, but all the theology of Christianity has its roots on judaism
Why can’t Greeks and everyone in fact believe in what they like?
@@i_likemen5614 It certainly influenced Christianity but you have Aramaic speaking churches in Syria and Iraq that have no connection to Greece.
The Gods are real! Every culture in the world, from the Mayans to Europeans, Chinese, Indians Hawaiians etc believed in Gods for thousands of years.
Lord Maha Vishnu 8th Avtar Lord Krishna Said In Bhagvadgeeta In Mahabharath "Yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbhavati bharata Abhythanamadharmasya tadatmanam srijamyaham" Paritranaya sadhunang vinashay cha dushkritam Dharmasangsthapanart- hay sambhabami yuge yuge Meaning: "Whenever, O descendant of Bharata, there is decline of Dharma, and rise of Adharma, then I body Myself forth. For the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked, and for the establishment of Dharma I come into being in every age." The same thing happened for our Sanathan Dharma(Hinduism) around 8th century A.D.There was a time when there was a complete chaos in the society and Hindu religion was almost nearer to getting vanished.Nihilism was at peaks and there was no one who could stop them.Rituals like yagnas were stopped.Sanathan Dharma(Hinduism) was in complete danger which was surrounded by 72 anti vedic religions ,Buddhism and jainism popular among them. Then,as said above,whenever there is decline of dharma Lord himself comes for establishment of dharma Socame the greatest philosopher, scholar,logician who is incarnation of Lord Shiva himself "ADI SHANKARACHARYA", Chatrapati Sivaji,Krishna Deva Raya Against Mughals, 1857 Revolt Against British Swami Vivekananda,raja ram mohan roy Against British and christian missonaries Lord Krishna And Lord Shiva Protected Sanathan Dharma(Hinduism)
The Gods they say maybe aliens
We have creators (aliens), but why do you consider them Gods?
Or maybe the universality of religion around the world comes from something about the nature of our species, and not the nature of everything in existence. We should make sure our beliefs align with the reality of the world, and stop trying to interpret the world through the lens of our beliefs.
There's one God the maker of heaven and Earth that's the name of Jesus Christ. There's non like him.
I'm from Salento, Southern Italy, and my region was colonized by Greeks in ancient times. We kept our traditions alive, and an ancient Greek dialect known as Griko is still spoken today in some towns of Salento, and in some towns of Calabria too. Unfortunately, we lost our ancestral religion, but as a true southern italian I'm still interested to worship my true gods.
Research deep cuz it is all from Babylon.
Teoricamente i tuoi dei sono quelli romani (che alla fine sono gli stessi greci ma con altri nomi)
@@masterjunky863 You are correct but did you know they are the same in Egypt, Persia, and India? All pagan gods come from Babylon, from the originals Nimrod=Zues Semeromus=Hera Tammuz=Dionysus *Zues of Greece is the same as Egyptian Ammon.* Webster's delux unabridged dictionary 2nd edition.
Rize Grike che ignorante 🤣🤣
@@crisera9000 Yes, you are ignorant! Worshipping demons
As a Hindu I support them. The Greeks, The Romans, The Egyptians & lastly the Norse were some of my favorite faiths/ Religions growing up! We heard so many great tales about the ancient gods/Goddesses. Such beautiful culture & traditions. Not to mention there are a lot of similarities between our gods as well. Those were the times of boldness, glory & valor. Today's society is weak.Olympus awaits my fellow Greeks, Reclaim what is yours!!
I absolutely love this comment, thank you for the support these people will be needing as they pull what remains of their old faith up from the ashes. Blessed Be 💖
Because they are european gods. And europeans are indo-europeans or aryans. A group found in nothern europe which spread to both India and Western europe. Basically indian gods are often brothers with our gods, we have the same ancestors.
I wish Christians were this respectful and supportive of other religions
Long live Monotheism, death to paganism!!
@@inspiredaction162 Abrahamic religions have very little tolerance, even their view of God is very black and white; good and bad! Polytheistic religions on the other hand have a deeper understanding of the world! I hope that ancient Greek religion reawakens again! ❤
How dare they shun these people for keeping a small part of ancient culture alive!? It’s beautiful
@Abdul Karim Says who?
@@benjalucian1515 Says me
@@JesusChrist-pq7ox - who are you?
@@benjalucian1515 who do you say I am
@@JesusChrist-pq7ox LARPer
To be able to promote and preserve thousand-years old culture and religion is fascinating. This is not just about religion but the beauty of an old tradition still practiced and kept alive. Greek culture has always been beautiful and awe-inspiring 💖
I don’t know why there is no freedom of religion for them. It’s their own history, respect your history!
the greek goverment recognized their neo-paganism back in 2017 so dont worry about them :)
How much rights zororastian have in Iraq or Iran? 😔
@@twiceonce9122 many zoroastrians living in india happily
Did the men kiss each other after?
Dude i saw god of war i just cant xdd
As a proud Southern Italian, I pay tribute to my glorious Greek ancestors.
aaa aaa your ancesytors are Arabs
aaa aaa so you're of romans origin
aaa aaa Ciao da Grecia, di dove sei?
Sicilian DNA is almost entirely Eubean and Dorian.
We love our Southern Italian Brothers and sisters.
When you realise that people who worship the Gods of Olympus are more accepting and tolerant of other religions.
Yup
Thousands of times looted Hundreds of times ruled ,percicuted,tortured Many tries to rewrite our history But india does not loose the soul of the culture I am a sanatani hindu🇮🇳🚩🚩🚩 Respect for minorities of Greek people's for following their ancestors beliefs
We all are well aware of famous shloka in Bhagavadgita "Yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbhavati bharata Abhythanamadharmasya tadatmanam srijamyaham" Paritranaya sadhunang vinashay cha dushkritam Dharmasangsthapanart- hay sambhabami yuge yuge Meaning: "Whenever, O descendant of Bharata, there is decline of Dharma, and rise of Adharma, then I body Myself forth. For the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked, and for the establishment of Dharma I come into being in every age." The same thing happened for our Sanathan Dharma(Hinduism) around 8th century A.D.There was a time when there was a complete chaos in the society and Hindu religion was almost nearer to getting vanished.Nihilism was at peaks and there was no one who could stop them.Rituals like yagnas were stopped.Hinduism was in complete danger which was surrounded by 72 anti vedic religions ,Buddhism and jainism popular among them.Then,as said above,whenever there is decline of dharma Lord himself comes for establishment of dharma Socame the greatest philosopher, scholar,logician who is incarnation of Lord Shiva himself "ADI SHANKARACHARYA", chatrapati sivaji Against Mughals, 1857 Revolt Against British Swami Vivekananda,raja ram mohan roy Against British Pray To Lord Ganesh,Lord Shiva,Lord Vishnu To protect Our Sanathan Dharma
@@arunreddy4778 Shivaji revolted against Mughals because he didn't get desired Mansabdari ( Commanding post ) . It has nothing to do with religion. Mughals were completely religion tolerant and had more hindus in their Millatry , Administration & bureaucracy than muslims.
@@azidahaka8543 No Brother Aurangazeb wanted to convert then he revolted
আমরা মানবতাবাদ ধর্ম
@@azidahaka8543 mughals used to convert Hindus then add them to army
The Old Gods should never be forgotten.
KarasunoCrows they all not real... like does Hercules take out to Zeus mansion.. with Pegasus
@@MrMundo3d Jesus isn't real
@Colin Sheehan yes he was real and died 2000 years ago. He is dead. He doesn't exist now
@Colin Sheehan bro that long @ss story you have written there isn't truth it's just myth. There's no actual historical proof for this as well as no dead person can return back. How brainwashed you are oh my zeus 😱
There’s only one god..
Good for them. There is nothing wrong with maintaining your cultural heritage. The Masons have a similar ceremony where they consecrate a site by breaking bread, pouring milk, wine, and oil out on a stone but instead of invoking Pan they invoke Ba'al.
good times. can you describe Pan and Ba'al and their differences?
Goat god vs. a Bull god.
Correct if i'm wrong but didn't Ba'al 'receive' human sacrifices?
Yes, similar to the cremation of care they preform at Bohemian Grove.
It should be Pan.
Lots of respect to people who return to their origins. Keep going. It is your true identity. ❤️🇬🇷 From🇮🇳
@Ggh Bhg Explain.
WhiteheadZss-hx8jz 0 seconds ago I am here I am the great king of gods I am in Florida USA have electric like power and fierce energy that cannot be explained or studied also I am not to be tested or opposed I hold all things an have healing abilities and the power of the word is with me I am the great king of gods no doubt about that I have been rejected by the people of my origin us and disrespectful people so I figured out who I am almighty did you her the hymn from heavenly places i come to heal this world an set new rules and the ones over this us is not for me but against me and stole over 1 million from my business and put a witch hunt in my left leg and I over come that the witch cried as she know who I am god of gods over all things in space and earth from the smallest attom to the GREATEST GALAXY AND ALL THINGS ON EARTH
I'm a jew and I think it is beautiful that these people can worship the gods of their ancestors. It is great to see people connecting with their roots like how jews are starting to believe in kabbalah again. It is beautiful
I can't understand why the Greek government isn't allowing these people going to the Parthenon and performing their ceremonies there. I bet they won't do as half as the damage Greek government has done to that sacred temple during the past century, God damnit.
They are careful with the temple now because the EU and UNESCO has told them to do so, these pagan people might look after the temple and even help on its restoration.
And tourists are going to want to watch the ceremonies - win/win scenario!
+Harriffan Conshertini I know right!
Don't you mean "Hades damn it"?
Because it's broken as fuck. Also the majority (Christians) would probably want it to be a Church again if it was ever restored.
Devu --- Indian god Deus --- Persian god Zeus --- Greek god Tiwus --- Germanic god Same God, changed pronunciation as the mythology travelled... 'Tues' in Tuesday is based on Tiwus -- the Germanic god of war. He is also called the God of Mars. In India, Tuesday is called 'Mangal', which was the Indian word for Mars. The world was way more connected back in the day than what history has been taught to us. Cheers.
Yeah it's almost correct that 'devu' you mentioned is came with the aryan race who came to india but it mixed with our local induism but still they are not considered as gods but more like angels
In italian, "Tuesday" translates to "martedì" which means "day of marte" - Marte is the latin name for Ares, so even if the languages are far different and so is the religion, english and italian still have the same day dedicated to the same deity. Thought it was cool
That is because of all of these languages, cultures, and people that you mentioned above are all related as they are all in group know as Indo-Europeans. They shared similar creation myths, language, and culture that were all tied together but distinct from one another.
Because the Indo-European Aryans brought Hindusim and Persian Paganism.
Μάς έχουν αντιγράψει, εκτός κι αν νομίζεις πως όλοι αυτοί που ανέφερες είχαν έρθει στην Ελλάδα καί μας έδωσαν τά ονόματα αυτά, ΤΑ ΟΠΟΙΑ ΥΠΗΡΧΑΝ ΝΩΡΙΤΕΡΑ ;;;;;;;;!!!!!😜🤪😄🤣😅😉😂στήν χώρα τους ! Υπάρχουν πηγές αρχΕλλήνων συγγραφέων πού κάνουν αναφορές και για μεταφορά των θεών μας και Πολιτισμού μας στά ασιατικά μέρη. Ασιατικές περιοχές που ΔΕΝ έγιναν μετακινήσεις πρός εμάς. Όλα είναι ανιστόρητα γιά όσους προσπαθούν να μπλέξουν με κάποιες κλεμμένες ονομασίες. Πόσοι αστοιχείωτοι υπάρχουν στον κόσμο, κακεντρεχείς καί μισέλληνες; Πόσοι 《τιποτάδες》άνθρωποι καί λαοί; !
I have to say this as an indian man who is also spiritual (Sanatana Dharma/Hinduism), i hope that most people especially people who follow abrahamic faiths understand that THIS IS NOT PAGANISM, this is a centuries old ancient culture, tradition and faith. The people of today are following in the footsteps of their ancestors and continuing their traditions and faith. It should not have to be said but i shall say it nonetheless,😂 the same way how people who follow abrahamic faiths truly believe and feel about their own religion, others (Hindu, Greek, Norse, Egyptian, etc) will also feel the same way about theirs and will have strong unyielding faith aswell. Cheers and God Bless these amazing Greeks may their culture, tradition and faith be preserved and strong.
Whenever i am in pain or have health troubles i pray to Apollo He heals me
That's cool 🥰🥰
I preffer calling out to his son Asclepious, he's cool too
@athenasonlydaughter Yes really.
Based
@Ggh Bhg yeah all gods are false christian or pagan but atleast the pagan ones are more realistic
I like hearing the Greek language it sounds so nice I wish I could learn it
It’s beautiful. Like the heavens opened up and the angels spoke to us!
Listen tilawat of Quran then tell me what you feel
Sajida Ilyas Arabic (no disrespect) is one of the harshest sounding languages in the world. It sounds OK while reading the Quran, but colloquially, it sounds awful. Greek is on another level of beauty. Older than Arabic and Greek words comprise up to 20% of English vocabulary, especially medical and scientific terms. Be well.
@@sajidailyas9706 Arabic is ugly
It sounds Spanish
Love Pagan Greece, beautiful culture and interesting ceremony, hope to see this ancient religion revive in the future. From Taoist Chinese
We believe in ancient Olympians. Who were here first, not the Jewish modern religions past onto us. Wishing you the best Taoist from China x
They used to sacrifice chickens.
@@Warhero1171 and the christian god kill babies
Very true and that I highly agree with you my friend...I also truly believe that we can learn from these teachings as well...I truly believe it’s a good way for them to stay in touch of their Greek roots
I am member of the ancient Roman state religion, heil Cäsar!
I believe in Greek gods because one of them connect me, her name is Athene. I live in a country that locate in the border of pacific ocean, very far away from greek.I'm from Myanmar(Burma).I found that in our tradition, there is some gods called Dewata(Sky gods) who stories are very similar to greek mythology. I think that they are the same gods but different names.
Ayy wassup?
Your ancestors were Hindus. The word "Devatas" is a Sanskrit Word. Hindu Gods and Greek Gods have many similarities because of them both being Polytheistic.
Dewata is a Sanskrit word means - God.
Lmao. Its not your tradition it's Indian tradition that spread to south east asia. South east Asia has no culture they just copied indians.
@@ritishakapoor1513 We are both descendent from Indo-European tribes so there are linguistic and cultural similarities.
Absolutely wonderful to see. It just amazing they put the initial offerings on the "rocks" where the original altar would have been bc it was worn away with time. I like that people are exploring what their culture was before it was destroyed and christianized. I also enjoy the kind people in the comments of different religions, especially christians, that respect other people's beliefs. Definitely not something you usually see.
i love this. religion also isn't always just about worship, but can be a way of feeling connected to your culture and ancestors too. i find it weird that Greece can protect the ruins of temples and monuments and yet reject the beliefs they were erected for.
@Joe Swanson not necessarily as Christian is a foreign religion, not native
@Joe Swanson man what I mean is , the art and culture is theirs, but the religion isn't. Which is unlike indigenous religions. So essentially what is theirs still remains, what isn't theirs doesn't which effectively doesn't make a huge difference for the Czechs. I am neither white, nor Pagan, and quite far from a racist. as for past being better because it's pagan , it isn't exactly the thing, it's more like past being better, because, they wouldn't be mistreated for following the religion of their own ancestors in their own ancestral land by their own people just like Zoroastrians of Iran. How is Paganism racist? I don't get it really, Are Japanese racist for following Shinto? Are Indians racist for being Hindu? Are Chinese racist for following Taoism? And if someone did think past was better because it was pagan ,really, doesn't make it a thinking unique to pagans as plenty of evangelicals think the same of Christianity and the present and they are also well known for being truly racist.
That's completely rediculous. Your ancestors shouldn't even enter the equation when picking a religion.
Islam is the only true religion
Because we Greeks were one of the first peoples to adopt Christianity and were also the greatest missionaries of the faith. Our culture is also mostly centered around it. The reason we protect those temples is because they're part of our history.
I am a Hellenistic Pagan, this is so amazing to watch 💓 nobody ever talks about this religion
With Paganism coming back, I would love to see Babylon tower be rebuilt
we become more every day
Im from Crete. And when I sae that Woman crying because we havent worshipped poseidon for 2000 years made my heart break.
Hi fellow Hellenist! May the gods watch over you :)
@@ExplorationOfAI may you have the strength of herakles wisdom of athena. Courage of hermes
Older religions were full of gems like Hinduism , Taoism and Greeks . I pray that one day Greek religion might resurrrect and reach its glorious age.
Yes. We need them to grow and prosper in their own way within the limits of the law and security of their respective nations.
@Ggh Bhg Read that again. Whose comment is spewing hatred. Yours. Grow up rice bowl bigot.
@Ggh BhgYou people talk of liberty . This is my liberty I can say any truth . And I see less hatrwd in my citations rather than yours . I just praised someone and tried to take some other angle . Please , remember one thing my friend do not be on the extreme left or right . Be on the moderate side . I mean what people get after calling their own countrymen bhakt or anti national . The game of whole media and politics is at its peak , not understood by common man . At the last Kuch padh likh le chore
@@VinodKumar-yu6vf well, sorry you look geniune there many Comments, where They act nice and spread hate, so I thought you might be one of them and some of my comments are just to infuriate the Haters, so sorry lol.
@@ghxghb4291Sir , Bhed chaal mein kabhi mat bhagiyega warna jinhe aap keh rahe hate comment karne wale unme aur aapme kya fark reh jaayega
It's a great thing that some Greeks are bringing back the old customs practiced by their ancestors. Now, the only thing remaining is the mighty march of Greek army shouting "THIS IS SPARTA" and bowing before the statue of Leonidas.
As a kid I thought all Greeks still believed in the Gods. I grew up watching Xena and Hercules so that's where my interest in Greek mythology started. I think it's wonderful that there are still people who believe.
Apparently, it's working for them. At least they are out of the closet now.
When my christian friend learned this, he said “thats sad...” and I was like their belifs is non of your business
BTW, it’s “Heracles”, “Hercules” is the roman name.
@@theelilac113 Yes, I'm aware. But the 90s tv show was called "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.
@@Kay2be2mr yeah 👍
I'm Greek and baptised Orthodox at birth without choice. The old ancient gods had something beautiful about it as opposed to this forced judeochristian faith forced upon us.
Yes it is
Christina Davidis you do know you have a choice right?
Epibørk I guess I'm confused. My family swears by what they were taught which is to never question things. I question everything though. I look at all the other cultures in my community and city and I feel like when you list them all, they all have this opinion that my religion is better than yours blah blah. I look at them all and they all need something spiritual to believe in. I don't know what to believe except that I try to be a good person and hope that the other person does too.
You are Greek, but are your born in Greece? Because I believe you are born in the US and the Greeks in the US are unnecessarily traditional and have confused many things. For example, if you know any Greek at all, you and your family would know very well that the religion never said "believe and don't question anything", it says "believe or not (believe), question everything", the difference is that it cannot be translated very well in english and there's a comma in the sentence that changes the whole meaning (πιστευε και μη, ερευνα VS πιστευε και μη ερευνα). Only old and uneducated people still believe that they shouldn't question everything. I have no reason to defend religion, i am an atheist myself, born in Greece in a time that the society is changing everyday, but I hate it when atheists complain everyday as if they are born in a theocracy. In my honest opinion, these are the people that would rather complain to strangers, instead of doing something to change the society one step at a time, starting from their family. For me, you are part of the problem, religion or atheism is a personal thing, nobody can force you, you have a choice, you are born in free country (either that is Greece or the US) and you can believe in god, allah, the spaghetti monster, satan or science. I chose science, my parents chose science, my boyfriend chose science, my close friends chose science and nobody in our society gives a crap.
KateDenthimamai I've never been to the U.S. But I understand what you're saying. My grandparents were born at a time that priests had free reign.
Why are we converting these people, isn't it amazing they still worship their gods?
They don’t like Yahweh having competition and they fear for their souls
Some other religious people who their religion is the only right one. “You must repent your actions for not believing God” and taking it from their bible that they read, “Thou shalt not have any weird gods before me” or use something like that.
@@theelilac113 I Too had conversation He Said Jesus Died For You I Said Lord Shiva Drank Poision And Saved Us And Lord Ram And Lord Krishna Showed How To Live he said you will go to hell i replied do your ancestors are in hell He left without speaking a word
@@arunreddy4778 they practice Buddhism.
@@theelilac113 what ever it may be religion we respect gods if they come to convert us we just say them to get lost
As a Hindu I found this very beautiful religion and tradition, rejecting Christianity and the colonization is the only way back to the tradition. ❤️
Colonization?🤣🤣 The Greco Romans is the one who killed Jesus. Then 300 years later in 300 A.D after the death of Jesus .. they adopted Christianity as the official religion in the Roman empire...
@@skylinelover9276 They didn't adopt it, they were forced to follow it.
@@_maverick_50 nope... Christians in Roman empire were persecuted and killed. But because Christians has been bigger and bigger... Roman emperor Constantine has no choice but to persue Christianity as main religion in the empire... For both political reason and high converts
@@_maverick_50 Christianity is made by Europeans. Not a Middle east religion... Jesus didn't want to create religion. Infact he just want to re-organized the some of teachings of Judaism. That's it
@@skylinelover9276the early Christians wouldn't do most things so called "Christians" and lukewarm one's do
The Gods are making a comeback.
Jignesh Dholka how can they if there fake things
DENNIS CHENG How do you know our gods are even fake lmao. They send signs all the time
hell yeah
A fabulous one
SnowPaw TheWolf I’m Christian, but I respect your religion. My God sends signs to us all the time as well, but what type of gods/goddesses do you worship?
im muslim. and i dont care if people believe in other religions :) i mean they arent harming or hurting anyone so. you believe in your own religion.
Of coz.. let allah deal with the non believers isnt it. ;)
Yes thank you for contradicting your religion.
@@Lockfly Your not supposed approve the worship of anyone but God. But your still supposed to treat them with kindness and allow them to worship as they will in peace
Mini toast sorry but there is not one Quran verse that says to respect or tolerate other religions. Quote one if you can even find it
@@Lockfly sadly.... there are radicals and moderates.. i dun think there are moderates but those who romanticize the quran. We can see tons of examples in all these comments.. no point asking for verses.
These people are exceptionally brave to face the scorn of the orthodox and catholic church to fight for their gods and beliefs. Even if there isn't a State religion in theory, organizations such as the Catholic and Orthodox Church still hold massive power and influence and it's not easy to openly give up the religion that your family, boss, and friends still worship to openly embrace what many people consider just a dead cult. I really hope that more and more people will start to openly worship our ancient gods. Love and respect from Italy 🇬🇷♥️🇮🇹
I do not want to judge these people nor I would actually consider them that their pagan religion is actually the cause of this. But the truth is. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life my friends. You see, when did you ever seen Poseidon in actual person? No one, Zeus? Hades? etc? No one. You need to stop worshipping false gods and false prophets in order to go to heaven. Jesus died for us on the cross and rose again in the third day according to scripture. There are also lots of Christian philosophers that can tell you that Jesus actually is the key because, no one cannot see God nor can communicate with him because you do not have connection with God. That is the problem. And anyone who says there is no such thing as God. Look, this is my proper script. You either ignore it or respect it. I respect what you believe, but in my thoughts you are believing in wrong prophecies, wrong gods, wrong religion and most importantly not showing true love. God is love, the judge and most importantly he understands people where they come from. Not to mention he heals the sick, poor. We cannot see him because like we said he does not force people to what they should believe or what they shouldn't that is why Jesus is the God of love. The son of God.
@Hafenleas Bur Probably because they refused to believe in him. Of course there are some Romans that did however accepted Jesus. But not all of them unfortunately
I love that people do this it’s so amazing I love all mythology I don’t really believe In any but I take a lot interest in ancient and native mythology I find it so interesting with all the gods and there story’s and it’s just amazing I had no idea this just kinda made my day!
According to Plato's Republic, many ancient greeks like Socrates believed in a "deist" sort of religion where there was a mysterious force/god that was not like a person, but could be divided into several Gods. It was a syncretic religion very similar to hinduism.
Go watch the videos of Pierre Grimes here on KZhead. What we call Platonism was and is the Western wisdom tradition and existed before Plato. Before the Western wisdom tradition was supplanted by Christianity it gave men the means to experience profound spiritual states and provided the serious seeker with insight into the nature of reality. Platonic philosophy is on par with the religions of the East and in my opinion is in some ways superior
That's cuz it is from Babylon. *"Sufficient similarity exists between the Masonic CHiram and the Kundalini of Hindu mysticism to warrant the assumption that CHiram may be considered a symbol also of the Spirit Fire moving through the sixth ventricle of the spinal column. The exact science of human regeneration is the Lost key of Masonry, for when the Spirit Fire is lifted up through the thirty-three degrees, or segments of the spinal column, and enters into the domed chamber of the human skull, it finally passed into the pituitary body"* Manly P Hall, Secret teachings of all ages, Page 68 The Thyrus of Dionysus or Eye of Bacchus is the same as spirit travel or spiritual medium.
@Shaurya Joshi lol
@a sick nothing, truly a loathsome creature. Christianity has nothing to do with Egypt. In fact Christianity is only non kabbalistic religion. Thoth's tree of life is Kabbalah spirit travel aka spiritual medium.
All of the indo european pagan religions were derived from vedic.
All the old religions, believes and cultures are demolished by the two 'peace' proclaiming religions but they could not destroy Hindus. We still believe in our Gods, our culture is still viving. I am very happy to come to know Greeks are slowly returning to their root. All the ancient religion must be followed again.🙏🌿🙏
Cmon dude,no need to hate..
@@shrishti6406 It's a fact and it does hurt.if it wasn't for the local kings defending and sacrifices of many gurus india probably would have been under sharia law right now.
@@shrishti6406 Sorry but there's all the reason to hate Abrahamic religions. They're the root of most of the world's issues today, they're extremely hateful and hostile. How can people not hate those who blatantly call their religion a "myth" while laughing at their faces?
@@shrishti6406 abhrahamic religions worship formless God how can you understand a formless thing I have my choice
We all are well aware of famous shloka in Bhagavadgita "Yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbhavati bharata Abhythanamadharmasya tadatmanam srijamyaham" Paritranaya sadhunang vinashay cha dushkritam Dharmasangsthapanart- hay sambhabami yuge yuge Meaning: "Whenever, O descendant of Bharata, there is decline of Dharma, and rise of Adharma, then I body Myself forth. For the protection of the good, for the destruction of the wicked, and for the establishment of Dharma I come into being in every age." The same thing happened for our Hindu religion around 8th century A.D.There was a time when there was a complete chaos in the society and Hindu religion was almost nearer to getting vanished.Nihilism was at peaks and there was no one who could stop them.Rituals like yagnas were stopped.Hinduism was in complete danger which was surrounded by 72 anti vedic religions ,Buddhism and jainism popular among them.Then,as said above,whenever there is decline of dharma Lord himself comes for establishment of dharma.So,,came the greatest philosopher, scholar,logician who is incarnation of Lord Shiva himself "ADI SHANKARACHARYA".Now Pray To God To protect Sanathan Dharma
They're rituals are so beatiful! Blessings from a Celtic pagan!
Its so beautiful to see that the old gods are alive and you can celebrate even if it is not at the former place.
For 2000 years, they were all dead,,, what type of gods they worships💁🏻😜
@@jihadi-against-oppression dont worry one day islam and christianity will also die soon if not we will bomb on worship places and rape believers.
@@jihadi-against-oppression Better than your fake god.
@@jihadi-against-oppression They weren’t all dead. See, if they were, the stories wouldn’t be here with us at all. Many things didn’t survive but word of mouth did.
@@jihadi-against-oppressionIn the future almost nobody will believe in your god...
The comments make me really happy 😊 and the support of the Hindus is amazing! I’m not a believer, but I find this amazing.
Hanna Dragon: Dear Hanna Dragon, Hindus are with you always!! We have tremendous love and respect for greek gods and goddesses!!
Hinduism is the most ancient religion and Egyptian and other pagan religions came after Hinduism But they got finished by abrahamic religions and we hindus still exists You can just imagine that our belief system is so strong that the abrahamic religions can't even bring us in minority in India Hope our *brothers in arms* religions will rise again and hope they will establish a strong belief system and strong technological world Hope
@@anonrandom7765 Dumbo, a recent DNA analysis from Rakhigarhi has debunked the Aryan Invasion theory. A careful analysis of Sanskrit texts and as well as the DNA analysis has proven that it was INDIANS ( yes, the so called Aryans were from India) who'd migrated from East to West. So, contrary to what you think, it was Indians who'd brought their culture and religion to the West (old pagan ones).
@@anonrandom7765 If you don't want to believe it, well, its your choice. But a fact is a fact, plus we Indians are not scammers, most of us aren't. But if you know our real history(which you may not be aware of) you'll know how the world has repeatedly scammed us. And please stop being soooo racist for God's sake.
@@shreyan1698 Okay if you actually want to learn facts and not spit bs like you are right now then please watch this- kzhead.info/sun/i7ePiqZrsXxpaIE/bejne.html
What I like about the Greek Gods is that they don't pretend that they are kind like Zeus and Poseidon. They show how they really are unlike the God of Christianity.
An an agnostic. I enjoy the aesthetics and spiritual feelings of both. Gregorian chants, Lutheran singing in cathedrals, bassy Ortodox songs. And the gritty beauty of Olympian gods.
Emma Frost I agree I hate how the Christian God is portrayed as perfect and ultimately flawless in every way. The Greek gods are still capable of normal human faults. They still have enemies who could defeat them and their power is divided among all of them.
Petter Gustafsson Athena seems like a cool Goddess.
Nyarlathotep If this Religion replaced the Islam then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Emma Frost yeah... My personal favorite is Hecate. She is actually what made me convert to paganism.
I am glad to read from some comments that ancient greek pantheon has been finally recognised had official religion in Greece after long period of time. Maybe someday I will travel there and make offerings to Zeus, Athena and Poseidon.
When I was 6-9 I actually believed in the Greek gods, prayed to them, brought them flowers, and got angry at anyone who disrespected them.
And now?
@@HighLordoftheBathroom I'm still a little sensitive about people disrespecting them, but I'm afraid at this point I'm a victim of science.
@@infjelphabasupporter8416 Ah, ok. I'm an Agnostic Theist, I do believe that the Greek Gods exist, and possibly other pantheons of Gods too, though my agnostic tendencies tend to take over. In my opinion, polytheism is more believable than monotheism.
Wow did you worship them in secret if you had parents who might've been of another religion, just curious
@@leahozhantortune771 My parents were atheists, even though I went to a catholic school. No one seemed to care much anyways.
The Greek govt gives special privileges to Eastern Orthodox Christianity because they see it as part of the national identity of Greece but wont let their original religion use their sacred sights for worship? What?
Samuel Jackson Because those sacred sights are ancient and fragile. I understand that everyone wants to worship at places special to their faiths but if your worshipping might damage those places it won’t be worth it. They should just build their own temples, it would be a better symbolic decision anyways since it would show they’re not just focused on the past but are looking to the future as well.
Yes, exactly right.
Yes, thank God they aren't complete traitors.
It was East and west Roman Empire
We Hindus are proud of our Hellenic brethren. When you return to who you are, you will become stronger and more successful. Adopting foreign religious beliefs weakened you. Now rise like Hercules and become the cultural superpower you once were.
Its Heracles, not Hercules.
Excelon The 4th Avalon Heirs Hercules is the Roman version of Heracles (plus, his Greek name is symbolic because he was named after Hera to honor her)
Park ChimMin That's why I said it. He says to Hellenes to rise up defend their culture like a "Heracles" because Heracles is Greek while Hercules is Roman. Why Hellenes must rise up as Roman, not Greeks?
@Joy Chakravarty That's why I tell him its Heracles. Done.
:') thank you.
Finally Europeans are going back to their roots away from middle eastern madness.❤️🙏
Nithin The BHAKT
@Ggh Bhg ANDH NAMAZI SPOTTED 😂
@@ghxghb4291 THE NAMAZI 😂🙂
@@ghxghb4291 Christian Missoanry Spotted
@@abhilashkumar5218 Christian missionary is a 🤡 shreks position. Jesus was a son of a *****
During Greek times, sciences, arts and sports flourished. Then the christians wiped out every trace of ancient Roman/Greek culture and converted them, leading to 1000 years of European dark ages. Good to see this revival!
You don't know what you're talking about. There's direct continuity from ancient Greece to Eastern Rome in every way but religion.
The Greek language sounds like honey dripping from a honey comb. Love it!
In India we call "Indra" to Zeus , ancient Greece religion is very similar to Hinduism our gods are same, may be some aliens 👽
@YoStefan Maybe!
Yeah, it sound nice when they say “Demeter”
@YoStefan polytheism never existed, this concept was created by christianity to devalue or eliminate the ethnic beliefs of many. Faith is an intangible thing, it expresses your personal feelings towards your nature, a religion is a created system that is not compatible with others, that keeps people from being one!
That’s a very beautiful description, it’s very fitting
Imagine if there was a small independent country, near or next to Greece, maybe an island for example, whose people believed to Zeus and all 12 Gods and also the official language of the country was the ancient greek one. This could be very interesting :))
you should write a book about that :)
Ithaca would be great, home of Odysseus.
Roshan Khan Or Corfu, or Rhodes.
you are forced to learn ancient greek at school,so i dont see any difference ...also if you are greek you can easily(almost) understand ancient greek
I have been thinking about that for AGES, and have drawn up many plans for one.
I worship the goddess Hekate. And just watching their ritual was seriously so beautiful ❤️
She actually predates these Greek Gods and her origins are unknown.
@@nukebritain wait really?
@@Gwaybean237 Yes, her origins are unknown. In the Greek pantheon she appears as a Titan Goddess that helped Zeus during the war of the Gods. However, other cultures have similar goddesses that are associated with the moon are are tri form. There are speculations about her origins from the east as she is a chthonic goddess but she still remains a mystery.
Goddess Hekate is a mysterious chthonic goddess and her origins can be traced back to Mesopotamia.
@@AJ-S wow that's amazing!!! Thank you for sharing this with me!
Helenic Polytheism should be resurrected the original way 🇬🇷🇦🇱🇮🇹🇨🇾
@@mohitpr5297 lol. Do you want me to prove to you that muhammad is a false prophet?
@@mohitpr5297 shut up
Polytheism was old bullshit. One God ☝️🏳
Belief should be free to choose. Hellenic polytheism influenced the whole mediterrenean mythology (roman+illyrian+thracian) at least should be recognised traditionally
@@denissaliaj9459 yes
I absolutely adored this video. Im Hellenic myself and the Theoi have helped me work through so much in my life. I’m getting help for mental illness, I feel happier, my grades are improving and i’m becoming more motivated to stay healthy. The practice has lead me to so much comfort and for me was much better than atheism. I recommend to anyone to try spirituality if it sparks their interest. Its hard to believe starting out. You will feel like you are talking to no one, but as time goes on you will feel Their presence.
Becoming an atheist was the most liberating outcome for me; the creation of my own morality was very sufficient for myself. I will not serve nor will I admire the arrogant rapist Zeus; the same applies to the genocidal & child-killing deity of Israel (Yahweh). No gods, no masters.
This is no difference to pagans in the UK such as druids. Long may Paganism Live. Well done Greeks keeping your ancient heritage and religion alive.
+zh11147 You are wrong, hellenistic religion, as distinct from the mythology, believed in spirits, not human figures. The figures were used to personify them.
innosanto In a sense yes, they believed in spirits which could posses them, as in the Bachanalian rites, but they also believed that the creatures of the Trees and streams, i.e Dryads, made their homes in trees, could leave the trees and had a Human form whilst Hamadryads were spirits of the trees and were one with the trees.
+Japan Mon Amour Exactly. Nicely put.
***** Ancient Greeks believed that the gods could take any form at will, and could take the form of animals and other people, and they would take the form of animals to give birth to other entitires etc etc. This means by definitiion that they did not have one form but many. And that makes the humanoid form either a way to personify them, or a form that the gods used more often than the other forms. However, I have read that many things were figurative. For example the 12 gods lived in mound Olympus, and they named the highest mountain in Greece Olympus. But they named many mountains as Olympus. So which one did they mean? Where did the gods live? The answer is that it was figurative. Olympus was a place but no certain place. The same is with the forms. It was a personification just like mount Olympuses, any of them, were "personifications-materialisations" of a place. And there is a river Aherontas in Greece which was supposed to take you to the underworld. But you can walk around it! That was also figurative. Christians would try to degrade the ancient Greek religion as if it was that silly and stupid, to show the new religion's higher value. It was the old differentiation thing, to market something, only in this case through false and bad counteradvertising of the enemy-competitor.
innosanto I can partly agree with you. First of all Mount Olympus is/was one in whole Greece and in its history. Maybe Gods' mount Olympus was a figurative place like you say, like heaven. 2nd of all Christianism in many ways is even more rediculous than Dodekatheon.
*insert joke about Zeus not keeping it in his pants here* But in seriousness I love that people are going back to the old ways before Christianity, may the gods be in our favour. Skál !!
This is beautiful. As a Norse Pagan I hope I can attend a Blot on day. The energy must have been intoxicating for those in this experience.
I'm thinking about going back to my African ancestors religion
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Norse Pagan, in another words, a genocidal rapist, and most likely Nazi
@@wilno7579 Your buzzwords don’t matter. Europeans are tired of hostile invading our counties, degrading our culture, and violating our women
It's better for most Norse Heathens to keep our beliefs to ourselves because the in-fighting between the various Norse Heathen organizations has reached a point where they all say they're "the true church of Norse Heathens" while denouncing all the others as heretics. Thankfully they don't have that problem amongst the Greek polytheists in Greece because they only have one organization, and being so close to actual ancient religious sites, and access to more academic literature, they don't have to improvise as much. The Poseidon ceremony where they sing hymns, and make offerings of bread, and other food falls into the Hindu idea of prasad, where you put out the offerings on the altar, have a cathartic experience, then you take back parts of the offerings, and consume them in a kind of "holy communion." Of course, the experience is very similar in blots, and sumbles.
very good to see people rediscover their roots.
Who said that paganism was the root of human being, who in the world thought you a lie like that? Islam is there since immemorial! and that's our root, it's applied to the entire human race!
And where did you learn that giant load of hogshite? In the Qur'an, the book that also tells people to forcibly convert or kill people who don't believe in the same shite as you belive in, paganism has been here since the dawn of civilization, it's what came first, the form of faith and spiritual expression that comes most naturally to humans, it teaches us to respect nature when we're outside in the beautiful sorrounding performing our rituals, through those same rituals it teaches us the value of giving to receive, it fills up our spiritual vessels making us happier and more fulfilled people and if there is something that is applied to the entire human race it's the pagan/natural way of viewing the world around us all.
I'm just wondering (Mostly because or your Username) But do you really believe that? If so: do you really see value in a religion coming first/being older?
Both yes and no, i see some value in a religion being older mainly that it's what comes most naturally to humans that would be practiced first and no because people can still come up with new and better ideas over time, but i see it this way, that you take the old and natural as a template for how a human lives best and then you add in new things as time passes, much like any religion evolves naturally over time when new ideas come, but i guess it's really mostly a matter of perspective.
I kind of see what you're saying but as far as religions go I think Animism is quite a bit older (Think ancestor worship) I think there is evidence of Neanderthals and similar hominids practising religion. Don't get me wrong here, I like the pantheon, and specifically the Homeric gods as an idea but "like" doesn't mean worship. Are you thinking of just culturally adopting some aspects of the old religions or full on 'Believe and Worship' these gods?
As a kid, I used to pray to the old gods, even though I am a baptized greek orthodox. It makes me so happy to see that this ancient cullture is protected and honoured. I started crying during the ceremony, I can totally understand how they feel.
Why not convert, if you don't believe fully in the Christian god? You're Greek.
@@dudebro765 everyone believes in what she/he wants
WhiteheadZss-hx8jz 0 seconds ago I am here I am the great king of gods I am in Florida USA have electric like power and fierce energy that cannot be explained or studied also I am not to be tested or opposed I hold all things an have healing abilities and the power of the word is with me I am the great king of gods no doubt about that I have been rejected by the people of my origin us and disrespectful people so I figured out who I am almighty did you her the hymn from heavenly places i come to heal this world an set new rules and the ones over this us is not for me but against me and stole over 1 million from my business and put a witch hunt in my left leg and I over come that the witch cried as she know who I am god of gods over all things in space and earth from the smallest attom to the GREATEST GALAXY AND ALL THINGS ON EARTH
Always wonderful to see Europeans return to our native faiths.
I'm proud that our hindu religion still survives even after 600 years muslim occupation and later 200 years Christians occupation kings like krishna dev raya and king shivaji saved us for islamic conversions and our freedom fighters and saints from Christians conversions today we proud to tell that only ancient polytestic religion which still survives
the old religions were soooooo much better
+patrick Katalenas ok religious hipster
Awkward History "historical and cultural buff" you mean
+patrick Katalenas Agreed, less violence, homophobia, sexism and more incest(wincest :D)
+patrick Katalenas hahahaha this is why there economy is fucked, zeus said fuck you all lol
+patrick Katalenas If you like blood sacrifices.
I think it is ridiculous that their government offers more to foreign religions than their own traditional religion
11:20 here is your anwer ....we are a european country , and you can believe in every religion you want freely as long you are a legal citizen or migrant and you dont break the laws....but more than 70% of ppl are east orthodox christians and still as a heritage it has close binds with the state ...but even minorities like muslims,catholicsm,greek pagansare free to do whaever they want...noone supresses them ...if you mean about their claim to worship in ancient historical momnuments, well the majority in greece are against this things.....maybe in the future if their number increase they might can have a claim to worship with rituals in this places, but all the choises at the current moment are democratic.....so noone is opressed
Okay that's true. I just think they should be accepted as an official religion like Christianity and Islam.
there must be a huge ammount of people....like 100.000..so they can apply at the state
you need to find your own culture and identity.... believing in a false god name Yashua... go find yourself.
shitianity is poop
As a Hellenic pagan this makes me happy to see
WhiteheadZss-hx8jz 0 seconds ago I am here I am the great king of gods I am in Florida USA have electric like power and fierce energy that cannot be explained or studied also I am not to be tested or opposed I hold all things an have healing abilities and the power of the word is with me I am the great king of gods no doubt about that I have been rejected by the people of my origin us and disrespectful people so I figured out who I am almighty did you her the hymn from heavenly places i come to heal this world an set new rules and the ones over this us is not for me but against me and stole over 1 million from my business and put a witch hunt in my left leg and I over come that the witch cried as she know who I am god of gods over all things in space and earth from the smallest attom to the GREATEST GALAXY AND ALL THINGS ON EARTH
Good to see their ancient belief isn't extinct yet
You mean their ancient delusions?
@duckynado8781 smarter in what? Being overthrown by romans who copied them and they made it worse, Greeks stole from ancient egyptians and those stole from ancient mesopotamians
@@commenttcoputpThere’s just as much proof that Zeus exists as the Abrahamic god