rating Disney Villain outfits on historical accuracy (part 1)

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    @gremlita@gremlita3 жыл бұрын
    • You should do Murdoch mystery at least first two season m.imdb.com/title/tt1091909/

      @timelesstimesgoneby@timelesstimesgoneby3 жыл бұрын
    • next euphoria pleeaassse👙🍷👒🍆💜🌌🎵💅🧚‍♀️🧞‍♀️🎶👾🔮

      @Denistirtana@Denistirtana3 жыл бұрын
    • the cats really are adorable 🥺

      @manuelafaria6703@manuelafaria67033 жыл бұрын
    • Hey Mina, can you do historical accuracy for ride villains from disney parks around the world??? Just a suggestion😊😊😊

      @supershirikibros1389@supershirikibros13893 жыл бұрын
    • My favorite villain is Dr. Facile, who is yours? Also I love your channel and enduring you stand for and speak against and for us inspiring!

      @ziggyskinner6001@ziggyskinner60013 жыл бұрын
  • Frollo is the scariest villain because he strongly believes that he isnt the villain and that what he is doing is good. The worst part is, there are really people like him in real life. He's also supposed to be a religious person who many people go to to ask for help and advice, yet he turned out to be biased amd hypocritical. Its realistic, which makes him all the more scary.

    @suspiciousblueorange3032@suspiciousblueorange30323 жыл бұрын
    • Actually, he believes until Infernal. This song was the moment the movie show us that he knew what he will do was bad, but didn’t care

      @MMM-mt6me@MMM-mt6me3 жыл бұрын
    • @@MMM-mt6me either way, it’s scary

      @jinseats5466@jinseats54663 жыл бұрын
    • Cruella too, there are many animals being abusers

      @Madeliefschram@Madeliefschram3 жыл бұрын
    • the whole thing is still pretyy scary tbh

      @suspiciousblueorange3032@suspiciousblueorange30323 жыл бұрын
    • Wait till you watch anime

      @kxnikxa1512@kxnikxa15123 жыл бұрын
  • Cruella de ville's fit SLAPPED, cant speak on historical accuracy, but she predicted the e-girl split hair sooo

    @thisisacrappyusername892@thisisacrappyusername8923 жыл бұрын
    • honestly a trendsetter

      @momoz1@momoz13 жыл бұрын
    • I would say it's pretty accurate, because the movie came out in 1961, so the dresses were fitted but contained the looser waistline that was popular in the 60s. She also had that fancy cigarette holder that could be seen used in the early 60s. Her hair though isn't accurate with the egirl style but was correct in that it predicted the 60s trend of the dark and light dyed hair (though i can be wrong but I see influences of Cruella style in style icon and Warhol superstar, Edie Sedgwick).

      @idontwanttoexist7838@idontwanttoexist78383 жыл бұрын
    • @@idontwanttoexist7838 doesn’t it take place in the 40s?

      @averymarcellus4048@averymarcellus40483 жыл бұрын
    • @@averymarcellus4048 isnt her car from the 1920s

      @caligulalonghbottom2629@caligulalonghbottom26293 жыл бұрын
    • I may be wrong, but didn't Melanie Martinez sort of start that trend? On the Voice in 2012, she said that her hair was directly inspired by Cruella de Ville, so technically, Cruella de Ville was responsible in starting the trend.

      @biblionerd@biblionerd3 жыл бұрын
  • Let’s be real here. The Disney villains are the best part of the early movies. Like the Evil queen and Maleficent are iconic

    @maddiej2165@maddiej21653 жыл бұрын
    • Let’s be real here. VILLAINS are the best part of any franchise

      @kristiwalton5374@kristiwalton53743 жыл бұрын
    • The reason why people enjoy Villians the most is because they are often the ones who push the story along via action. Main character often go along with the world and things just HAPPEN to them. Great stories are able to balance an interesting protagonist and interesting villain.

      @RomanZolanski123@RomanZolanski1233 жыл бұрын
    • @@RomanZolanski123 Wen villain as mc exist....

      @chickennuggets1990@chickennuggets19903 жыл бұрын
    • Yes. Very interested to see maleficent and maybe cruella?(not sure how to spell her name). I think cruella dville has such spectacular style

      @prishakr1058@prishakr10583 жыл бұрын
    • Not to mention the villains always have the best songs too

      @rositaramirez8837@rositaramirez88373 жыл бұрын
  • I guess the reason most of the costumes lack of embellishment or patterns is for the sake of animators. It would take so many more hours to animate a pinstripe suit or jewelry on a moving character

    @LilaChupaHoops@LilaChupaHoops3 жыл бұрын
    • And sorry I forgot to say thank you for the video, very well documented with painting and references !!

      @LilaChupaHoops@LilaChupaHoops3 жыл бұрын
    • I was going to comment the same thing.

      @lulupain18@lulupain183 жыл бұрын
    • Oh God I can't IMAGINE, animating normal pattern clothes is hard enough, but THOSE patterns??? Nah.

      @Alex-je8gc@Alex-je8gc3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah i thought the same. Live action and animation costume design must be wholly different in that regard

      @susannemoseidbryhni9898@susannemoseidbryhni98983 жыл бұрын
    • This is why Jasmine and Cinderella don’t have ears. 🤫

      @RachelJayne92@RachelJayne923 жыл бұрын
  • you're in her dms, i'm one of her beautiful doves. we are not the same

    @sophie7780@sophie77803 жыл бұрын
    • Haha lmao, that's how I felt too

      @haley5735@haley57353 жыл бұрын
    • So valued ( ꈍᴗꈍ)

      @haley5735@haley57353 жыл бұрын
    • Doves don't write KZhead comments

      @Spankington@Spankington3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Spankington beautiful doves do though

      @chasedelaney@chasedelaney3 жыл бұрын
    • @@chasedelaney nah

      @Spankington@Spankington3 жыл бұрын
  • Frollo is one of the scariest disney villains because there are actually people like him out there.

    @char388@char3883 жыл бұрын
    • She’s like the Dolores Umbridge of Disney villains

      @AshleyLBH@AshleyLBH3 жыл бұрын
    • and then if you watch the stage musical where he returns to being an archdeacon, he is made even more complex and even more frightening. He really is the best villain because he is complex and realistic, and that is why he is so scary.

      @alyalvarado1667@alyalvarado16673 жыл бұрын
    • Another thing that makes him so terrifying is that he *truly* believes that he's a good person, and he *truly* believes he's doing the right thing.

      @Tori-wt7dy@Tori-wt7dy3 жыл бұрын
    • @@AshleyLBH I don’t think she is very scary, she is kinda ridiculous although kinda real and very hateful

      @nina5drioli@nina5drioli3 жыл бұрын
    • This and Gaston!

      @micah5847@micah58473 жыл бұрын
  • Frollo was always the scariest villain for me cuz like, damn, he’s, for lack of a better word, the most realistic (?) and horrible - he’s lustful, powerful, corrupt, racist, xenophobic, and just down right murderous

    @atree4487@atree44873 жыл бұрын
    • You basically just described Donald Trump 🤔

      @jessicasantos1017@jessicasantos10173 жыл бұрын
    • @@jessicasantos1017 so accurate

      @lesbiangoddess290@lesbiangoddess2903 жыл бұрын
    • So true and even though the song Hellfire is actually terrifying, it is a GREAT song

      @laurenhohnholt7337@laurenhohnholt73373 жыл бұрын
    • @@laurenhohnholt7337 Hellfire is one of my favourite songs actually haha. The whole Hunchback of Notre Dame soundtrack (and kinda the whole movie too) is underrated.

      @atree4487@atree44873 жыл бұрын
    • What’s xenophobic?

      @abbyp5900@abbyp59003 жыл бұрын
  • My dumb self: I hope she does Ursula and Scar! Me half a second later: wait a minute...

    @odaliasucks7407@odaliasucks74073 жыл бұрын
    • same! 😅

      @lobrundell4264@lobrundell42643 жыл бұрын
    • I don’t understand 👉👈

      @mariacaavendano6675@mariacaavendano66753 жыл бұрын
    • @@mariacaavendano6675 lol both of those villains are from fantasy realms, and also very not human. Ursula is an octopus/mermaid/something and scar is a literal lion, so they obviously don’t have clothes to critique

      @kaykeunil@kaykeunil3 жыл бұрын
    • @@kaykeunil aaaaah, okay jaja thanks yeah

      @mariacaavendano6675@mariacaavendano66753 жыл бұрын
    • @@kaykeunil "Lions in this particular time period wore their manes with a side parting located near the ear. You can't see this anywhere on Scar at all, so I'm going to have to give him a 3/10. The three is for having the correct fur consistency, although coats of that colour weren't popular at the time."

      @Berilia@Berilia3 жыл бұрын
  • disney villain outfits MAY not have been the most historically accurate, but i gotta hand it to em, they were STYLINGGGGG

    @dianthasewcool@dianthasewcool3 жыл бұрын
    • FRRRR

      @natalierangel1317@natalierangel13173 жыл бұрын
    • Frrrrr

      @user-jp6zl5yd1h@user-jp6zl5yd1h3 жыл бұрын
  • I kinda figured captain hooks pink shirt could maybe be attributed to washing his clothes with his shirt lol

    @vanessadalpiaz6423@vanessadalpiaz64233 жыл бұрын
    • I didn't even think of that until you said something! That honestly makes more sense than just choosing to wear it.

      @mags6564@mags65643 жыл бұрын
    • Disney loves queercoding its villians so I thought that might come into it too

      @amylicciardello9027@amylicciardello90273 жыл бұрын
    • yeah i thought it was supposed to be a "haha gay man wears pink shirt"

      @zazhands8866@zazhands88663 жыл бұрын
    • @@amylicciardello9027 yeah that’s probably the actual reason but I think it’s funnier and more in character to think Hook just can’t do laundry lol

      @vanessadalpiaz6423@vanessadalpiaz64233 жыл бұрын
    • @@zazhands8866 probably, a lot of older villains were queercoded

      @remwifeyy@remwifeyy3 жыл бұрын
  • For some reason Hades looks like he borrowed a tshirt from Adam Sandler.

    @elainestokes2787@elainestokes27873 жыл бұрын
  • Its true that miceneic greeks didnt really make a lot of art of their gods, most of their sculptures were kuros or kores which were mostly generic depictions of men and women respectively, the men were always naked (this is the ideal beauty standard for greeks) as for the classical period, male gods were eventually also depicted as naked almost always so i think i speak for the majority when i say we deserve a hot naked hades

    @kutielkalupto6818@kutielkalupto68183 жыл бұрын
    • Oh yes👀

      @_VenomicA_@_VenomicA_3 жыл бұрын
    • kouri and kores were mainly from the archaic period onwards though. the mycenean/minoan/cycladic civilizations (which all were considered prehistoric and are before the archaic period) didn't have big statues. but sure, if it was placed in classical period Athens, it would make a lot of sense.

      @BuddingOrchid@BuddingOrchid3 жыл бұрын
    • Kouroi*

      @Raphael3032@Raphael30323 жыл бұрын
    • @@Raphael3032 actually, phonetically it's pronounced 'kouri'. greek people tend to write in english as they write in greek. the word in greek is spelled κούροι, where the combination of o and ι make an ee sound. that's the only reason why it's sometimes written like that (and of course it's not pronounced kour-o-i). also kouri is plural, and kouros is singular.

      @BuddingOrchid@BuddingOrchid3 жыл бұрын
    • @@BuddingOrchid i honestoy don't know why i grouped the mycenean and minioan with archaic period, youre right about them lacking big sculptures, i also called them kuros because my art history course was in spanish, but thank you for clearing everything up!

      @kutielkalupto6818@kutielkalupto68183 жыл бұрын
  • okay but the thing about big noses really annoys me bc literally everyone in my family has big noses(were greek) and yet i hated my nose for years bc of shit like those disney movies. it sticks with you whether you realise it or not and i hate it

    @welloopsies6262@welloopsies62623 жыл бұрын
    • I hated my button nose too.

      @jackwilkins7972@jackwilkins79723 жыл бұрын
    • Same for me as a Jew. Our type of noses are always on bad guys and goblins

      @Langwidere903@Langwidere9033 жыл бұрын
    • I totally agree! But I will say it bugs me so much when people say that being Greek is synonymous with having a larger nose... my family and many other Greeks I know don’t have this feature. People try to alienate us because of this stereotype bullshit (particularly non Greeks) when we are just as Greek. What I am getting at is that Greeks have so many diverse physical characteristics and I’m not a fan people defining us to a limited number of physical characteristics...

      @katerinapetrova24@katerinapetrova243 жыл бұрын
    • @@Langwidere903 Although they're not Jewish just because they are villains or have big noses. They ain't Jewish if they ain't confirmed to be Jewish. Plus most of these companies have Jewish employees. I can see why some might find that problematic, but the thing is there's no proof that they're Jews. Gothel was based on Cher, who isn't a Jew (she's Albanian, so is it now "Albanophobic"?). Also, these movies have Hebrew dubs, so clearly not every Jew thinks big noses on characters are a problem.

      @finland4ever55@finland4ever553 жыл бұрын
    • @@finland4ever55 its not the fact that the villains are Jewish bc they're not as you said. Its the fact that the big nose characteristic always present on villains is recognised as a trait commonly found on Jewish people and as a result of it being on villains in movies like Disney's it is seen as a bad trait and villainised. The fact that Hebrew dubs exist says nothing about the audience of the movies but it says that the company made an executive decision to widen their audience as much as possible to have the chance generate more revenue. This decision was probably made not specifically about Hebrew dubs but about dubs in foreign languages in general as English speaking audiences only make up a small part of the worlds population

      @welloopsies6262@welloopsies62623 жыл бұрын
  • therapist: front-facing Hermes isn't real, it can't hurt you front-facing Hermes: 12:42

    @RatRatRat@RatRatRat3 жыл бұрын
    • idk why but front-facing figures on classical vases are lowkey scary

      @RatRatRat@RatRatRat3 жыл бұрын
    • @@RatRatRat yesssss

      @user-jp6zl5yd1h@user-jp6zl5yd1h3 жыл бұрын
  • I hope you will talk about yzma. I am pretty sure her style isn't historical accurate but she is such an DRAG ICON

    @AgentSteffi@AgentSteffi3 жыл бұрын
    • I hope Shan Yu is in Part 2. I just love his rugged nomadic steppe warrior outfit.

      @robonaught@robonaught3 жыл бұрын
    • She’s one of my favs I always loved her science scenes

      @bobsburgers8497@bobsburgers84973 жыл бұрын
    • @@robonaught oh yes, his design is great as well!

      @AgentSteffi@AgentSteffi3 жыл бұрын
    • @@bobsburgers8497 she is definitely my fave. And yes they were great! ".... Or, to save on postage, I'll just poison him with this!"

      @AgentSteffi@AgentSteffi3 жыл бұрын
    • Wrong lever kronk

      @mamoru1836@mamoru18363 жыл бұрын
  • oh HELL yes ☠️💜

    @ModernGurlz@ModernGurlz3 жыл бұрын
    • I love your channel!

      @a.person4761@a.person47613 жыл бұрын
    • hi ;-;

      @svgarcvbes7560@svgarcvbes75603 жыл бұрын
    • Whoa, I just saw you in Be Kind Rewind's comments and now on Mina Le! And I love your channel! Thank you for showing your support to other channels so public! Makes me feel cozy*~

      @christinez.1454@christinez.14543 жыл бұрын
    • OMG @ModernGurlz! I LOVE your channel!

      @rem.in.wonderland4513@rem.in.wonderland45133 жыл бұрын
    • Hii

      @lyissdustyy._.lavender6399@lyissdustyy._.lavender63993 жыл бұрын
  • Omg after you pointed out the nose thing for the villains, I can’t see anything else. That’s such a sneaky way to push a certain narrative around certain physical features.

    @olivialayne06@olivialayne063 жыл бұрын
    • @Armo Moose It’s not about whether or not it’s true, it’s about a feature that is associated with Ashkenazi Jews. I am Jewish and do not have this nose, but the conceptual idea of Jews having those physical features is extremely pervasive and this reinforces it while also framing them as ugly and evil.

      @dreamscape31@dreamscape313 жыл бұрын
    • @Armo Moose i'm pretty sure what the dude in the tiktok is saying is that the big nose villain started as a Jewish stereotype and then people kept copying the design trough the decades as a signifier of evil whether meaning to stereotype Jews or not. Basically companies don't care what the stereotype means meanwhile it's recognizable as evil it doesn't matter.

      @dvasellati@dvasellati3 жыл бұрын
    • @Carne Guisada Under a rock pretending there's no injustice in the world and everyone's too sensitive, obviously!

      @Aster_Risk@Aster_Risk3 жыл бұрын
    • @@alita8900 oh, did you do a lunchtime poll?

      @poutinelevine@poutinelevine3 жыл бұрын
    • @Pareidolia Many do care actually. I don't know how you got to that conclusion, maybe you should take some of your own advice and not speak for minorities.

      @manifestationsofasort@manifestationsofasort3 жыл бұрын
  • I'm gonna say that the reason Hook's shirt is pink is that he's bad at laundry and just threw in the white shirt with his red jacket and breeches. Always separate whites and reds children!

    @emmamarentette@emmamarentette3 жыл бұрын
    • OR it could be pink because the "gay men wear pink" thing. probably something like that

      @remwifeyy@remwifeyy3 жыл бұрын
    • its not entirely necessary nowadays, now laundry detergents dont cause colors to bleed (at least after the first few washes!)

      @coatimundi69@coatimundi693 жыл бұрын
    • Oh, come now. You know Smee was the one doing the laundry...and he'd probably had a few swigs of rum before hand...

      @Publius513@Publius5133 жыл бұрын
    • @@remwifeyy calm down homophobe.

      @puccipuu1797@puccipuu17973 жыл бұрын
    • @@puccipuu1797 im literally- like thats a stereotype??? maybe i shouldve worded it better or something but i put quotation marks??? like what??

      @remwifeyy@remwifeyy3 жыл бұрын
  • Since you're a fashion master, I would love to see a video that's "a list of 'outdated' fashions that should be popular again" or "a list of basics everyone should have in their wardrobe."

    @The11thEvilEx@The11thEvilEx3 жыл бұрын
    • Would absolutely love that!

      @mrlnxf8455@mrlnxf84553 жыл бұрын
    • @@hwrgfn7029 no capes!

      @tink6225@tink62253 жыл бұрын
    • YES

      @Mari-fq1fx@Mari-fq1fx2 жыл бұрын
  • Maybe a small fun fact: Disney allegedly was inspired by the statue of a woman in my hometown to create the face of the Evil Queen. The woman is called Uta von Naumburg. She, her husband and many others gave money to build a cathedral there. After the cathedral was finished, statues were built to honor this group of people. Uta's statue indeed has a cold look and, most famously, a high collar. Legend has it she was very unhappy in her marriage, therefore the artist wanted to portray her that way.

    @alidaheart6771@alidaheart67713 жыл бұрын
    • Damn. That is a cool fact. I looked it up and you definitely see the resemblance.

      @JapieKat25@JapieKat253 жыл бұрын
    • Uta's statue is really pretty

      @saeromsparklesss8858@saeromsparklesss88583 жыл бұрын
    • It says that she was considered the most beautiful woman of the Middle Ages and I can see why.

      @victoriadiesattheend.8478@victoriadiesattheend.84782 жыл бұрын
  • Re Dr Facilier, I think the lack of dress shirt baring midrif is queer coding (which disney loves lmao), whereas the standard shirt with no waistcoat wouldn't have that same othering effect

    @n0tb4by@n0tb4by3 жыл бұрын
    • exactly, like, dr. facilier just has drip. his friends from the other side said crop tops were in.

      @gil5885@gil58853 жыл бұрын
    • @@gil5885 Omfg im dying 💀

      @willowisaqt@willowisaqt3 жыл бұрын
    • not 100% sure if it's queer coding. He's dressed almost exactly the same as Baron Samedi in Sugar Hill, which is a classic blaxploitation movie. Seems more likely they'd draw inspiration from that character

      @mirmanerd101@mirmanerd1012 жыл бұрын
    • Yes! Disney villains are gay af! But that's why they're so iconic and fabulous. Glad someone else noticed

      @gildedpeahen876@gildedpeahen8762 жыл бұрын
    • @@mirmanerd101 I didn't know that! thanks for the perspective 💕

      @n0tb4by@n0tb4by2 жыл бұрын
  • Remember, If you do Mother Gothel you need to keep in mind that her clothing is supposed to look outdated to hint at her true age (Edit) Peter Pan takes place in 1909 because in Peter Pan 2 Wendys husband is seen returning from World War 2

    @Drowningindisappointment@Drowningindisappointment3 жыл бұрын
    • Her dress still kills though lol

      @Tori-wt7dy@Tori-wt7dy3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Tori-wt7dy 100%

      @Drowningindisappointment@Drowningindisappointment3 жыл бұрын
    • In Wendy's world that is, in Neverland the time moves differently, thats why the kids don't grow up

      @idlesun1645@idlesun16453 жыл бұрын
    • @@idlesun1645 Yes, but in the real world its 1909

      @Drowningindisappointment@Drowningindisappointment3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Drowningindisappointment neither of the world wars had even started in 1909? the great war 1914-1918, world war 2 1939-1945

      @kaitlynurquhart595@kaitlynurquhart5953 жыл бұрын
  • lindsey ellis did a deep dive into the history of the huntchback of notre dame and it wasn't actually Disney that originally changed frollo's job title but I'm sure there's a reason they didn't change it back

    @Bianca-kr5qz@Bianca-kr5qz3 жыл бұрын
    • ig they thought him being a priest was too spicy so they left him as a judge (even though the rest of the movie is traumatizing 😂😂)

      @charlottecomeau1266@charlottecomeau12663 жыл бұрын
    • or maybe judge made it so modern ppl would see him as more of an authority figure than a priest idk

      @charlottecomeau1266@charlottecomeau12663 жыл бұрын
    • @@charlottecomeau1266 ya and i think in lindsey's vid she says tht the Disney movie is more of a remake of a very popular movie version of huntchback, since a lot of the stuff tht was cut out/changed from the movie was also cut out/changed in the Disney version and it kinda does make sense i mean in our modern western cultural a judge/person in government has more power than someone in the church

      @Bianca-kr5qz@Bianca-kr5qz3 жыл бұрын
    • which video?

      @ennasf9419@ennasf94193 жыл бұрын
    • @@ennasf9419 kzhead.info/sun/dK2Ch91ri4xnmIE/bejne.html&ab_channel=LindsayEllis this

      @Bianca-kr5qz@Bianca-kr5qz3 жыл бұрын
  • As a Jewish person, thank you so freaking much for including that tik tok and bringing awareness to the antisemitism engrained in our modern society!!

    @mollybgh1374@mollybgh13743 жыл бұрын
  • Wanted to say this on your princess series, but the reason characters had simple costumes with minimal to no prints and embellishments was because they would make the garments extremely difficult to animate at different angles and in motion. Especially by hand. Love your content btw.

    @snoozeapalooza@snoozeapalooza3 жыл бұрын
    • I do hate how "historically accurate" artists and critics never mention that.

      @starspeculation@starspeculation3 жыл бұрын
    • Same goes for the silhouettes of outfits, the more elaborate the silhouette the more difficult it is to animate.

      @savvycrafts239@savvycrafts2393 жыл бұрын
    • exactly what I was thinking ! They couldn't draw 10 millions pictures with all these prints and lace and ornaments. It's better if she mentions it. Coz I don't think Disney made such big stupid mistakes by not having any costume designer to sit with them.

      @vananh1741@vananh17413 жыл бұрын
  • One thing that is plausible is that Dr Facilier's design was heavily inspired by Baron Samedi, a sort of deity(?) associated with voodoo. His signature look is a tailcoat suit, top hat, cane, and skull themes (either a straight up skull head or skull patterned facepaint). His color scheme is also, you guessed it, black, white and purple.

    @zoeleene@zoeleene3 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for adding this! I was surprised she didn't discuss it since it seems to have been the major inspiration for Facilier's look.

      @Luanna801@Luanna8012 жыл бұрын
  • Facilier doesn’t have a dress shirt because they needed that crop top look so they could queercode him as much as possible.☕️

    @lunarmagpie619@lunarmagpie6193 жыл бұрын
    • Holy shit

      @patriciabristow-johnson5951@patriciabristow-johnson59513 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly.

      @mrlnxf8455@mrlnxf84553 жыл бұрын
    • And here i was thinking it was like that bc he is poor

      @jellybean1528@jellybean15283 жыл бұрын
    • @@jellybean1528 nah he G A E

      @kadeorade5296@kadeorade52963 жыл бұрын
    • He looks so much like Prince, it was weird

      @nm9688@nm96883 жыл бұрын
  • Disney Villains get some of the most fun outfits!

    @GiraffesCo22@GiraffesCo223 жыл бұрын
    • They get some of the best songs too

      @Tori-wt7dy@Tori-wt7dy3 жыл бұрын
  • Doesn't Peter Pan take place in the late Victorian/early Edwardian? Judging by what Mr. and Mrs. Darling wear

    @dunceclown5576@dunceclown55763 жыл бұрын
    • I think you're right! I wasn't paying too much attention because I know Hook is definitely not from the 1900s and the movie was released in 1953. But Return to Neverland (the sequel) takes place in 1940, which makes me think that Peter Pan is set in the 1910s (though if that's the case, Mrs. Darling could look a little more historically accurate ;D)

      @gremlita@gremlita3 жыл бұрын
    • @@gremlita Yeah, I wish there was even more time and budget for these older hand-drawn films (or even for Princess and the Frog) cause then we could get more details in the clothing, especially for Dr. Faucilier's pin striped pants...those would have looked so good! Also I love your videos, I always look forward to the next one!

      @dunceclown5576@dunceclown55763 жыл бұрын
    • Since people don’t age in neverland, Hook is likely from the golden age of piracy and not from the movie’s modern time

      @reynab818@reynab8183 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah I was like “wait isn’t there a ww2 air raid in the sequel?” Lmao

      @Rin-og9hz@Rin-og9hz3 жыл бұрын
    • @@gremlita and the sequel took place in one of the world wars, during the blitzreig

      @Sam-0827@Sam-08273 жыл бұрын
  • I love that plant has a sticker that just says "PLANT" same

    @agustinagomez3587@agustinagomez35873 жыл бұрын
  • I just wanted to point out that dr. Facilier is a voodoo doctor, so I think the little feature like the tooth necklace should also be looked at for accuracy. Such as traditional voodoo or black Magic accessories in New Orleans. New Orleans has a large African descent population and many practiced black magic so it is important to take that into account.

    @sov4225@sov42253 жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact from my art history professor, the evil queen from snow white is actually based on a statue in the Naumburg Cathedral depicting one of it's patrons, Uta von Ballenstedt. What's interesting about this is that the patrons were depicted in fashions that were modern to the time they were created, not really accurate to the time the patrons were alive, so the style we see on the statue is probably something she didn't actually wear in her lifetime.

    @mcrXalana@mcrXalana3 жыл бұрын
  • I love Frollo's song about wanting Esmeralda to be 'his and his alone'. It does such a great job at showing his hypocrisy, it shows us how he believes he has the moral high ground ('you know I'm so much purer than...'), but he is actually a dirtbag. It also makes him very much like real life 'villains' that hide behind religion. And I think it's the only scene in a Disney movie in which this form of sexism/misogyny is shown (including victim blaming: 'I'm not to blame, it is the gypsy girl') and properly depicted as evil.

    @AliceJerseyland@AliceJerseyland3 жыл бұрын
    • hopefully they do one about muslim men too

      @skurinski@skurinski2 жыл бұрын
    • Perfectly said. I love how they subtly but also explicitly, in a sense, show the hypocrisy of 'religious' leaders. They may look "godly" but the way they live says something else.

      @--2699@--2699 Жыл бұрын
  • love the way you show us historical examples of what you would’ve put them in!! it rly inspires me to re-draw them in those designs 👀

    @LisavonWerder@LisavonWerder3 жыл бұрын
    • oooh that'd be cool to see! Do you post your art anywhere?

      @liv97497@liv974973 жыл бұрын
    • @@liv97497 I have a “professional” instagram account that I’m trying to use more often!! I can post them there when I’m done-it’s @ lisavonwerder :)

      @LisavonWerder@LisavonWerder3 жыл бұрын
  • Medieval Art Historian here: The Evil Queen was most likely partially based on the donor portrait of Uta von Ballenstadt (c. 1000-1046) of the Naumburg Cathedral from the 13th century, and they do in fact contain many similarities in style!

    @lydiamccollum7374@lydiamccollum73743 жыл бұрын
  • Honestly I don't even really care about disney movies but these videos are so interesting! I think the part calling out disney anti-semitism was very important, kudos for that.

    @Samisnotavailable@Samisnotavailable3 жыл бұрын
    • nah, dude was reaching...

      @skurinski@skurinski2 жыл бұрын
    • @@skurinski especially since very obviously Christian Frollo ALSO has a massive prominent nose 💀 While Esmerala has a small semi-button nose and Quasimodo (also g*psy) has a turned up nose

      @thekitkatlizard8661@thekitkatlizard8661 Жыл бұрын
  • Mina: talks about how Disney villains have a consistent red/purple/black color scheme Me, currently wearing red purple and black, my three favorite colors: 😳 (Honestly the villains always look cooler anyways tho)

    @reynab818@reynab8183 жыл бұрын
  • THANK YOU for mentioning the antisemitism! i feel like no one ever talks about it; it means so much to me that you made a point to mention it

    @JessiQuinn@JessiQuinn3 жыл бұрын
    • agreed!

      @kikilerer689@kikilerer6893 жыл бұрын
    • I always have seen turn of the century cartoons as examples of antisemitic depictions, never have I been pointed at the obvious that Near Easter/Middle Eastern ethnic feature are still often chosen for villainous characters because ahhhh antisemitism. It’s so disappointing how society hasn’t evolved. People just went back to subliminal antisemitism

      @melz6625@melz66253 жыл бұрын
    • YES AGREED-being Jewish it is so frustrating that antisemitism is like never talked about??? Like it’s just a softened up offensive thing that is made fun of all the time so one really cares for and it’s like we don’t matter as much just cause we “blend in” but we are like the black people of religion if that makes any sense.

      @dianaizzy960@dianaizzy9603 жыл бұрын
    • The awful part is that the these features are so established as villainous that people draw villains with these features not even realizing where it comes from and keep prepetuating them unconsciously

      @Eliina552@Eliina5523 жыл бұрын
    • Of course that's not the only awful part but I hope you get my point

      @Eliina552@Eliina5523 жыл бұрын
  • The nose thing had literally the opposite effect on me. Instead of viewing people with bigger, hooked noses as villains, I saw them as strong and resilient. Idk, just thought that was weird.

    @katielebrun1625@katielebrun16253 жыл бұрын
  • Facelier would look so cool if he was super colourful, fits his chaotic personality and would give him a very unique look

    @elliesaurusart3941@elliesaurusart39413 жыл бұрын
  • Frollo was actually changed to a judge by victor Hugo for the stage adaptation, so this wasn't disneys decision, he's been a judge since almost the very beginning. Love your videos, since you're in Newyork you and bernadette banner should totally crossover

    @rachaeldiviney712@rachaeldiviney7123 жыл бұрын
    • Victor Hugo himself?

      @user-ix1rp9ff3p@user-ix1rp9ff3p3 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-ix1rp9ff3p yeahhh

      @Meg-cc6yc@Meg-cc6yc3 жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact, Hades didn't exist in Mycenaean Greece. Probably one of the reasons that there are no depictions of him.

    @cris_ad@cris_ad3 жыл бұрын
    • I was looking to sew if someone said this! He's believed to be an offshoot of mycanean Poseidon. One evidence of this is the story of hades and persephone, where it was Poseidon and Persephone in Mycenean tales

      @saanvitalanki8915@saanvitalanki89156 ай бұрын
  • The way that she included an explanation about anti-Semitism in the video is honestly a serve and we should talk about it

    @ollie5086@ollie50863 жыл бұрын
  • Loved this video, but Disney’s Peter Pan takes place in the Edwardian era, you can tell based on Mr. and Mrs. Darlings clothing, and even Mrs. Darlings hair is super accurate to Edwardian hair.

    @jackgriffin5757@jackgriffin57573 жыл бұрын
    • Sure, but that doesn’t mean Hook was from the Edwardian era too! Time moves differently in neverland and it sounds like he’d been there for a little bit.

      @gabaghoul3499@gabaghoul34993 жыл бұрын
    • @@gabaghoul3499 No i’m talking about when she said the part in London takes place in the 1950s which it doesn’t, that’s Edwardian.

      @jackgriffin5757@jackgriffin57573 жыл бұрын
    • @@jackgriffin5757 hmm, maybe she misspoke? Since Disney’s Peter Pan was released in 1953🤷🏻‍♀️

      @luanapires4464@luanapires44643 жыл бұрын
    • But it does make sense for Peter Pan to be set in the Edwardian Era, since the play was from 1904

      @luanapires4464@luanapires44643 жыл бұрын
  • Hey I was wondering if you could do the outfits for the Barbie movies, specifically the historical based/fairytale ones (and excluding the fantasy and modern ones)? A couple of them are a bit vague in time period like Diamond Castle, Island Princess, or Magic of Pegasus but it would totally be amazing!

    @mpvf0@mpvf03 жыл бұрын
    • Island Princess is set in Italy and Pegasus is set in the Netherlands. That's all I can really say.

      @finland4ever55@finland4ever553 жыл бұрын
    • @@finland4ever55 How can Pegasus be placed in the Netherlands? Their castle is literally built in a canyon-like thing and they are on a mountain passage when they find the cave. There are no mountains like that in the Netherlands. I'm not trying to attack you, but this doesn't make any sense geographically :)

      @achanelgal@achanelgal2 жыл бұрын
  • You talking abt Minoans and the Mycenaean civilization is insane to me I’m literally from the area they existed in and my house is 5 minutes from the ruins of Knossos 🤣

    @tatianalekka1086@tatianalekka10863 жыл бұрын
    • Minoans had insane fashion. Women often bared their breasts yet held them up.

      @ar.6968@ar.69683 жыл бұрын
    • @@ar.6968 That is indeed true! I find them fascinating even from an objective perspective

      @tatianalekka1086@tatianalekka10863 жыл бұрын
  • Felt a burst of dopamine from contemplating the fact that I’m a beautiful dove 🕊

    @tobymayhew1437@tobymayhew14373 жыл бұрын
  • Captain Hook's costume actually makes sense historically, because captains were not doing what the regular crew members would do

    @user-sb6ub2vn2x@user-sb6ub2vn2x3 жыл бұрын
  • We are still waiting for part 2.

    @Mazou-tj4ne@Mazou-tj4ne2 жыл бұрын
  • I think one thing that could’ve improved your critique of Facilier would be to look at the historical dress of Vodun practitioners. Just to round it off.

    @imjustdandy9799@imjustdandy97993 жыл бұрын
    • yeah, even those portrayed in media. I watched Sugar Hill a year ago and immediately noticed that Baron Samedi in that movie is dressed almost exactly the same as Dr. Facilier

      @mirmanerd101@mirmanerd1012 жыл бұрын
  • Could you do a video on the costumes in Death Becomes Her? The costumes in my opinion are so beautiful and also quite symbolic in the repetitive colour schemes (Madeline being in blues and white and Helen being in reds). Would love for you to look at the costumes!

    @annarose932@annarose9323 жыл бұрын
    • YES! That would be such a good video!

      @tatianas8258@tatianas82583 жыл бұрын
    • It's such a funny movie too hahaha I'm laughing just thinking abt ut

      @clwt4075@clwt40753 жыл бұрын
    • yes, please!

      @t.mutabilis2497@t.mutabilis24973 жыл бұрын
    • I'd love that!

      @kanellita@kanellita3 жыл бұрын
    • Yes! I want her to cover more campy films like this.

      @Aster_Risk@Aster_Risk3 жыл бұрын
  • Doing my lit degree, we just did Peter Pan and apparently the novel highly described Captain Hooks' clothing as resembling of Charles the 2nd as he's supposed to symbolise power and education the upper classes enjoyed (apparently Captain Hooks was an Eton boy!) Perhaps this could have influence on his costume in the film too !!✨✨

    @LolPetra@LolPetra3 жыл бұрын
  • Please please please make another episode on ur wardrobe, I'm in live with your style and taste😍

    @evab521@evab5213 жыл бұрын
    • 69th like

      @chickennuggets1990@chickennuggets19903 жыл бұрын
    • @@chickennuggets1990 niiiice

      @awaywiththefae3776@awaywiththefae37763 жыл бұрын
  • Honestly, I kinda love being called a dove

    @emanuelebergamaschi9424@emanuelebergamaschi94243 жыл бұрын
  • I loved this video so much and I can't wait for the rest of the series! As a Jewish lady, I also appreciate that you referenced the Jewish tropes in Disney villains! Lets also discuss how many villains are coded to be disabled and this is framed negatively.

    @naamallama@naamallama3 жыл бұрын
    • I actually like the disabled coding because it doesn't make disabled people seem weak imho

      @theparrot6516@theparrot65162 жыл бұрын
  • Im not normally into this kind of stuff, but you're so knowledgeable about something Ive never even thought about. I watched the princess dresses videos and you're really cool.

    @allisonj905@allisonj9053 жыл бұрын
  • Character wise Gothel is the scariest and realest villain, cause a gaslighter could be your friend, partner or even a family member.

    @vanessa5229@vanessa52293 жыл бұрын
  • okay but i'm getting evil snow white vibes and i'm loving it 🥺

    @dumblewh0res294@dumblewh0res2943 жыл бұрын
  • i love watching these videos cause i know fuckall about historical fashion but all of the sudden i’m the most educated person on the subject

    @pedrowebnet@pedrowebnet3 жыл бұрын
  • The evil queen might be several hundred years old. Her dress being old fashioned is not so strange.

    @izuela7677@izuela76773 жыл бұрын
  • Disney should make more princesses wearing black, red, brown, navy blue since all princesses are wearing bright saturated gowns and leave the darker colors for the villains it would be interesting and refreshing to see how the color of your wardrobe doesn't necessarily reflect your personality as for a princess can wear black and still be joyful and happy

    @Shine-kg9vk@Shine-kg9vk3 жыл бұрын
  • MINNNNNA, THE LOOK TODAY IS IMMACULATE!!!!

    @gyosob7265@gyosob72653 жыл бұрын
  • I was so sad when I found out Mother Gothel from Tangled was an antisemitic caricature.

    @deprimada3560@deprimada35603 жыл бұрын
    • The thing with Gothel though is she might look like a Jew but she was physically based on Albanian-American singer Cher, and Disney has heroic Jews like Vanellope from Wreck it Ralph and like all Disney movies Tangled has a Hebrew dub.

      @finland4ever55@finland4ever553 жыл бұрын
    • @@finland4ever55 the point is not that these characters are intended to be Jewish, but they are given stereotypically Jewish features (and remember most of these stories are based on older stories when these tropes about Jews were likely even more widely accepted). The point is not that Disney openly establishes Jewish characters and calls them evil, it's that Disney's depiction of these characters subconsciously pushes the narrative that "Jewish" features are evil features. This does not only make people numb to depictions of antisemitism, but it negatively affects the self esteem of the children who see their features exaggerated/reflected only ever in villains. Tangled is one of my favorite movies, but it does somewhat perpetuate a myth of blood libel, whether intentional or not. As far as Vanellope from Wreck it Ralph, I do not understand why you keep bringing up a character from one recent movie to prove that all the other instances in unrelated movies are not antisemitic. That makes zero sense. Vanellope isn't even Jewish in the movies--she's a video game character voiced by a Jewish actress who awesomely declared that her character was Jewish after the movie came out. And of course disney dubs their movies-- they're a major business trying to make as much money as possible.

      @amywalker250@amywalker2503 жыл бұрын
  • i wonder how historically accurate ursula is. lol. we're tentacles ever in fashion?

    @kitchensinkchronicles3272@kitchensinkchronicles32723 жыл бұрын
  • like how mina always deducts points on style for a colour not matching hahaha

    @urlocalchangeling8740@urlocalchangeling87403 жыл бұрын
  • I THOUGHT FROLLO WAS A PRIEST OR SMTH IN THE CARTOON TOO, HOW DID I MISS THAT HE WASN'T

    @agnetebutk@agnetebutk3 жыл бұрын
  • "The people performing these amputations were cooks, not surgeons" Let's be honest, even if they'd had proper surgeons on board, they wouldn't have stood that better of a chance at surviving.

    @panqueque445@panqueque4453 жыл бұрын
  • You in black = perfection

    @nickycircus@nickycircus3 жыл бұрын
  • thank you so much for pointing out the antisemitism in popular media such as disney film depictions, its very important that it’s acknowledged and denormalized.

    @cowboyballads2527@cowboyballads25273 жыл бұрын
    • Family guy pokes fun of that fact. That’s actually how I trust realized this. In an episode they go Disney style and everyone is singing and happy. Then one of their Jewish characters appears and they all get angry and point him out and kill him. That clicked in me and I was like “wait? Does Disney “not like Jewish people” and then I saw the similarities in their villains

      @QUETI0112@QUETI01123 жыл бұрын
    • @@QUETI0112 Wait, isn't family guy actually antisemetic?

      @finland4ever55@finland4ever553 жыл бұрын
  • "Hellfire" is an amazing song though.

    @rebeccakoch1890@rebeccakoch18903 жыл бұрын
  • Anyone notice that Hercules is actually his ROMAN given name, while Herecles is the real Greek given name.

    @sockboi7334@sockboi73343 жыл бұрын
    • Omg YES! That always bothered me so much

      @daisydeaton2679@daisydeaton26793 жыл бұрын
  • Hades is definitely my favorite villain and he’d for sure have a more flashy outfit irl lol

    @supreme_aset777@supreme_aset7773 жыл бұрын
  • Okay but if there ever was a pirate who would wear highly impractical clothing, it *would* be Captain Hook... and he sure looks fabulous even without an array of jewels

    @liv97497@liv974973 жыл бұрын
  • we need a part 2 & 3 of this video!! i love this series so much and there's so many other villains with ICONIC looks.

    @emerybernice789@emerybernice789 Жыл бұрын
  • If I recall correctly, the Evil Queen from Snow White was meant to look medieval, to contrast with Snow White's early-modern get-up. So the Queen looks like someone distinctly out of step with the time, compared to the virtuous Snow White

    @justthecoolestdudeyo9446@justthecoolestdudeyo94463 жыл бұрын
  • i always thought since i was a kid that frollo was a priest/religion-adjacent guy (in the disney movie)

    @beetljam792@beetljam7923 жыл бұрын
  • A video analysis of the costumes in Too Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar? Would be interesting to hear a analysis looking at how the trio (Vida; Noxeema and Chi Chi,) show their personalities and distinctive drag persona.

    @annarose932@annarose9323 жыл бұрын
  • I mean I LOST IT when she said "cooks" and Remy showed up

    @stephengeorge438@stephengeorge4383 жыл бұрын
  • i really like the idea of hook adopting different items of clothing every time he leaves neverland or every time someone comes to neverland and brings different clothes... tbh i wish i had half of that mans dress sense lmao

    @welloopsies6262@welloopsies62623 жыл бұрын
  • Frollo is for me the embodiment of men "wanting you" but if you dont want them back, they just use violence (cuz it's a "privilege" to be wanted by them *sarcasm*). Anyways, this is just me being a sociologist and seeing my own subject (violence against women) in everything lol

    @magnamagnamagnamagna@magnamagnamagnamagna3 жыл бұрын
  • I always thought Frollo was some sort of priest as a kid, I didn’t realize he wasn’t until you said it, tbh tho I didn’t really like that movie because Frollo scared me haha

    @itzelalien@itzelalien3 жыл бұрын
  • 10:50 Thanks for that I'm really tired from people that dont recognize the greek on Hercules

    @miaw2716@miaw27163 жыл бұрын
  • For the Evil queen the dress is fitted to her body and the largest cape because vain of course. Most of the disney fashion are inspired by the when the movie came and not of the time in the actual movie

    @edwintovar1505@edwintovar15053 жыл бұрын
  • Finally someone is talking about the villains' outfits. Can you please do a series on the historical accuracy of the outfits of the Disney Princes?

    @w.i.t.c.h.aholic9315@w.i.t.c.h.aholic93153 жыл бұрын
  • I like how in the back there’s a plant labeled “plant”

    @maggielovestoads@maggielovestoads3 жыл бұрын
  • LMAO when Remy showed up. Where is the spinoff where Remy has to feed a pirate ship and give amputations?

    @LittleL1001@LittleL10013 жыл бұрын
  • a cool headcanon/in-universe explanation for Hook's costuming is that Peter Pan and The Lost Boys STOLE all of Hook's bling and, in paranoia, he took to wearing his fanciest regalia on a daily basis to prevent THEM being stolen too. The lilac shirt, similarly, could be passed off as a prank played on him, Peter staining the pirates' laundry with beetroot or mollusks, or simply an unfortunate relic of the pirates first attempts at laundering in Neverland (as opposed to hiring washerwomen at port). For The Evil Queen, her design reminds me of Mother Gothel: deliberate historic inaccuracy to evoke a sense of witches being much older than they appear. Prior to her being widowed, the Evil Queen likely conformed with contemporary fashions but discarded them during her coup.

    @BattyButtercup@BattyButtercup3 жыл бұрын
  • girl please please do a part 2, i am in love with this ‘series’. i would absolutely die seeing you do a part 2 that included the 1959 maleficent :)

    @erinf7300@erinf73003 жыл бұрын
  • “Hellfire” is and will forever be the most evil and most epic Disney villain song. It’s the perfect villain song with the perfect Disney villain. It’s real and honest in portraying true human evil, and our capacity for evil and good. This is a concept that children should be privy to, and it is excellent that Disney went there with Frollo.

    @samofsamnation7523@samofsamnation75233 жыл бұрын
  • Peter Pan was before WW2, so not the 1950s. The 1930s most likely. We know this because in the second movie Jane is living during the air raids in WW2.

    @RebeccaDziwulski416@RebeccaDziwulski4163 жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact: the reason we don’t have images of Mycenaean hades is because he likely didn’t exist at this time at all. Poseidon was largely considered to be associated with the underworld due to his earthquakes

    @anitawhite8670@anitawhite8670 Жыл бұрын
  • Tamatoa is my favorite Disney villain, but he obviously wouldn’t work for this series 🤣

    @bellaenpointe@bellaenpointe3 жыл бұрын
  • Mina, please grace us with parts 2&3. Thank you queen ❤️

    @weirdkimion@weirdkimion Жыл бұрын
  • I think it would be interesting to see how accurate the outfits in Little Women (2019) were or, as the replies to this tell me, inaccurate lmao

    @sanna5623@sanna56233 жыл бұрын
    • Oh hunny we don’t go there when I comes to historical accuracy

      @jasanjali@jasanjali3 жыл бұрын
    • Watch Micarah Tewers video, everything about historical inaccuracy for the costumes is enlisted there, I'm not even that into victorian fashion history and they look like 2000 cast offs even to me.. so suffice to say there is almost nothing accurate about them so be prepared if you wanted a positive review

      @nadjapavlovic5953@nadjapavlovic59533 жыл бұрын
    • Here's a very complete video on the matter: kzhead.info/sun/ktd7odV9iX-Yn6c/bejne.html

      @alejandrabernalyepes70@alejandrabernalyepes703 жыл бұрын
    • The costumes were beautiful but i don’t think it’s anywhere close to historically accurate

      @Thekawaiiasian101vid@Thekawaiiasian101vid3 жыл бұрын
    • They were not.. check out micarah tewers video on that..

      @shi_.@shi_.3 жыл бұрын
  • Love you and your reviews, I just wanted you to acknowledge how hard details would be to animate... Love An animator

    @camillegiraud6708@camillegiraud67083 жыл бұрын
  • pls do anne with an e historical accuracy!!

    @ennasf9419@ennasf94193 жыл бұрын
  • WE NEED A PART 2!!!!!!

    @beckyjohnson721@beckyjohnson7212 жыл бұрын
  • The word chiton is pronounced “key-ton” with the last -on being pronounced like the word “on” like how we say Pokémon. It is different from a Roman toga and all people would wear a chiton but this is mostly from our surviving records of Athens, Greece. One of my Greek and Roman Studies professors drilled this into our heads and was very passionate about it.

    @PigfartsAndRedvines@PigfartsAndRedvines3 жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact! Hades doesn't seem to be Mycenean in origin, as we have no records of him from that time. Also, the article is mistaken HEAVILY mistaken. While Dionysus is a god of a lot of death-like things, he was never Hades.

    @irachan3978@irachan39783 жыл бұрын
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