the REAL magic of CCD cameras (no, they don’t take film photos)
What do you reckon? Is the CCD sensor craze fact of fiction? Either way I had a great time :)
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00:00 welcome to the future
01:03 ridiculous snippet from the old press release
01:56 reason 1
03:36 camera rundown
04:24 reason 2
05:04 film photos vs ccd photos (real examples)
06:24 reason 3
07:26 more camera fun and photos
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Aaah how far we've come!! What was your first camera? And did it have some... ✨️ CCD Magic ✨️ inside??
My first camera was the legendary Minolta 7000 and had the Ilford Pan-F magic, because it was cheap not because it was cool (in that days it wasn´t). 🤣
My first camera is the Olympus stylus 300. I didn’t know how to use it well back then when I first got it, but I got to know it better (and appreciated it)recently after learning how to use the mechanical film cameras.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think the first camera that I used was an old Kodak point and shoot film camera back in the ‘80’s. First digital camera was a Kodak Easy Share 5MP from 2005. Looking at my old photo it is less that it “looks like film” and more that the image quality is not perfect. I don’t think I have ever bought a camera for image quality as the 1st priority.
I believe my first one was the Olympus mu Mju II. I totally had no idea how film cameras worked but took some photos with it in high school. My friends were already switching to cellphones and some of them had more pro cameras for their camera classes. The experience for film is really the unexpected results. I think the photos I think would suck, end up being good. The good photos usually end up being average. Haha.
@thursmornsunlight ooo I just got a mju, but the cheaper zoom one not the fixed lens. Such a simple and fun camera! And yes I totally agree about film. So unpredictable 😂
As an old bloke, born in the 50s of the last century, I was a film user for decades, B&W ,colour (Fujifilm better than Kodak, say that and start a war among the oldies !). And then, initially grudgingly, got into digital in the early 2000s, Canon 300D and a few bridgies, (all of which I still have, call me an Hamster) I think I can safely debunk the CCD is film like myth. HOWEVER, having said that my opinion is that CCD had a magic all of it's own. The colour science was very distinctive and the images had a "warmth" that the later CMOS didn't/doesn't have. I do enjoy my older CCD cameras, the colours are more vibrant BUT not garish. The big problem with CCD was the noise that soon entered your shots at anything over sayyyyyyyyy 400 ASA, sorry ISO, showing my age :) The sensor rapidly ran out of steam in low light or say tricky situations, like Sunset/Sunsets etc, totally 100% the use of a sturdy tripod and the self timer to get good sharp shots. CMOS, when it entered thr market had/has a more mmmhhhh cold/clinical colour science, BUT can shoot at much higher ASA without intrusive noise , so all in all a more versatile sensor making low light shots easy peasy even handheld.. The arrival of CMOS also arrived at much the same time as the highly feature laden editing softwares we all take for granted nowadays, Photoshop etc etc , even the primitive versions were literally an eye opener, and very expensive :) Soooo I think these software advances allowed the CMOS to gain what CCD got SOOC, warmth,saturation etc could be twaeked and probably still is tweaked to get more "pleasing" looking shots, I know I do this with my CMOS derived shots. Of course maybe I try to skew any shot I take to look more "film like" because that was where I started. I lent a Praktica to a young friend of my son to try film, she had gone to art school and became a "photographer" BUT had never exposed a frame of film before. It was a frustrating process for her to begin with, her first 2 rolls were a complete disappointment for her. "How the hell did you ever get even 1 good shot" she said, tee hee, and then the developing and printing blew her mind :) Eventually she started to get the groove, BUT it was an experiment only, she returned to her Mirrorless Fuji gizmo with a sense of profound relief :) Anyoo, CCD is NOT film like, but has a character all of its own which has a charm, CMOS has it's place making modern cameras almost idiot proof, BUT light/composition and feel is needed in all 3 formats, that will never change, the eye and mind behind the camera is the real thing, the camera is merely your toolbox :) ahhhh time for my cocoa :) Enjoy your channel very much ,your enthusiasm is infectious, kepp on doing what your doing :)
Creativity isn't something you can buy. It's a state of mind you cultivate and its free.
Don't say that, she's flogging her LUT packs!
Got to the heart of it I think. There's definitely a hype cycle going on around early y2k cameras, but while these medium sized cams are still cheap they're very fun and many are good enough res for social media posting anyways. Feel like the "film like" claims are in part driven by phone cameras HDR'ing everything, in part by people re-learning what flash photography vibes are. I'm having fun settling into a flow of shooting these earlier digital cameras for everyday and party type shots, and having film for intentional shooting. Incidentally it's convincing me I don't need the Sony A7iii I have barely taken out lol.
It's so funny how circular photography is. there was a huge push away from on-camera flash, to "how well can this camera shoot in the dark at ISO 1000000" and now people are like, just use flash and shoot with 4 megapixels haha 🤷♀️
Over the weekend I shot a Steampunk as per usual in Haworth. I like to experiment each time with either old lenses, or old cameras. This time, I had as may primary, a bit of a legend CCD DSLR in the Nikon D200. The LCD on the back is awful, but considering it is getting on to 20 years old, I didn't mind. Shoot RAW as well. When I got home and uploaded to my Hard drive for processing, it was a case of "oh my goodness!" The colours were nice, the exposure spot on, and the detail was excellent. Now my main DSLR is 36MP, but this time I just loved the 10MP images that the D200 took. I would not say film like, more of a halfway house between film and CMOS of current cameras, and an excellent place accordingly. So yes, give a CCD camera a try, no matter the brand and have fun.
I had never given digicams a second thought until a couple of years ago, that's new camera prices went beyond my budget and their features beyond my needs. I now have a collection of older mirrorless cameras and digicams, that have cost less than two thirds of the price of the latest Fujifilm (x100 VI). These vintage cameras have brought back the joy of photography (Lumix LX5, Canon S95, Canon G12 especially), as I am enjoying taking snapshots, and not looking for 'bangers' as I might with my more expensive 'proper' camera.
I really need an lx5 !
@@MicroFourNerds I love the black and white profile from this little gem :)
@@MicroFourNerds Emily I loved my LX3. I gave it to a friend that managed to damage the camera somehow. I never got on with the LX5 and is in the mail to her. The LX7 stays with me. The LX7 improves on many of the LX5. My suggestion is it’s the same effort it will take for you to locate a LX5 as the 7. Also about the same price. Go with that. You like the 5060? Try the 8080. The lens is better. I had the 5050 and loved the fast lens. The 8080 is even better. Same 10” processing for raw. I was surprised to learn these cameras used tiny 1inch sensors vs M43. These old CCD sensors are cheap as chips. Cheers. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Hi Emily, we've established that I'm an old photographer and person now, so my first camera ever was when I was a child: a Kodak that used 110 film. After that, it was my college years with the Minolta Hi-Matic 35mm and well, the plethora of film and digital cameras took off! My first digital camera was the Nikon D50 followed by the venerable D300, both of which I've considered buying back. They rendered such beautiful quality photos, but I cannot bring myself to invest further in compact flash cards! As an aside, I was considering picking up a G7 so I dug up one of your old videos that was 6 years old! It struck me how far you've come in your journey! Cheers!
I loved your video of the nostalgia for CCD cameras and film cameras. I shoot older cameras as a practice to keep my eyes and mind in touch with what the composition does to me. The newer and more sophisticated cameras are okay for those who do photography for a living, but lifestyle is slowed, and so has my need for the newest camera. Yay, CCD still has a lot of great photos to offer in the future! 😂 Oh, in case anyone really cares, I am 82 yrs old and shot 35 mm Leica film in the early 50’s as a war correspondent.😮
Best comment I’ve read, with sage advice against falling for the latest and greatest. Thank you.
I grew up with film. My first digital camera was a Canon Powershot G2 in 2002 (I think). Then a Konica Minolta Dynax 7D and a Canon Powershot S70 (both CCD). These days I use Lumix m43 cameras but I still have a couple of old Fujifilms with SuperCCD, a Finepix F200EXR (great at low ISO/good light ) and...err... another one. I've recently been editing a few images taken decades ago with these old CCD sensor cameras. I think the biggest difference between them and modern cameras is a) how they blow the highlights too easily while having noisy shadows and b) the almost total absence of computational photography. In the compacts there is built-in correction for lens distortion and that's about it. No vignetting correction, no ability to tweak denoise and sharpening, no auto HDR, no tracking focus and so on. I think that is a lot of the difference between then and now. Images from modern cameras and phones are massively manipulated. Even raws from a modern camera might have vignetting, CA correction, distortion correction applied. So you get a different look. I do have to say that the results from the Dynax 7D with Minolta and Sigma EX Macro lenses still look really good despite it having only a 6.1MP APS-C size sensor. Minolta did the colour output to JPEG really well. Terrible in mixed or artificial light though.
Very good vid that helps me understand this rather bewildering trend. I didn't start using digital for anything serious until _after_ ccds were gone. Because the skin tones and blown out highlights looked terrible compared to film. Once the CMOS sensors came along around 2005 or so, I could finally tweak digital to look very much as I wanted. But you made great points - especially about the nostalgia that different generations have for the tech of their childhoods. I actually mostly shoot with an 11 year old Fujifilm XE1 with manual lenses - I'm no stranger to slow cameras that are tactile (in fact it was the first digital camera I used that really felt like shooting film) but just me I'd never sacrifice image quality. But by 2010 or so, image quality was already absolutely superb.
I think you absolutely nailed it. I love a good old digicam and a lot of it for me is the fun factor. I find that with a tiny compact camera, no-one looks at me like I'm a photographer and that can often result in getting images that would be more difficult to get with a bigger camera/lens set up. My first proper camera was indeed a CCD camera, a Konica Minolta Dynax 5D and unless you played around with the colours in camera, it was incredibly magenta xD
True, all things had bluesh/magenta hue, but then again each film emulsion had/has it's own characteristics, I think I can still spot Kodak Gold at 1st glance, I always thought it over saturated, BUT that was my opinion, others loved it for it's "richness" of colour, while it grated with me, all subjective
1st Cam? Film, 1976, Canon FTb w/ 50 1.8 and 100 - 200 5.6 zoom! (bought for the Montreal Olympics, w/ Olympics 76 logo lens-cap!) 1st digital? Canon A-20 (2.1 Mp) Favourite CCD cam? Olympus Stylus / µ-5010, 14 Mp, 5x zoom, has taken my favourite cloud pics. There's something about that sensor that just renders monotones with superb contrast when "reduced" to B&W. Reminds me of Ansel Adams skies...
I bought an old Fujifilm bridge camera from 2011 for $25 at an antique store. No Raw, limited aperture control, viewfinder and back screen resolution is awful, 3 film simulations. It’s the most fun camera I have used in a long time. I put in in shutter or aperture priority and ISO 400 and dont fuss over settings. Pure photography and it captures wonderful 14mp images!
this is it, if it is fun to use then it definitely serves its purpose!
You make it fun! but as someone who is in their mid 50's i love digital photos, music, computers ect ect ect... if i want the filmish look i can get that with digital, I know someone will say its not the same and they are correct! but i can honestly say i dont!!😂
This, the 5060, was my first digital camera. I still have it and it's still in excellent condition even though it has been around the world. I used it extensively for about 10 years until I eventually upgraded to the em5. The ccd has a great character but it isn't like film. I shot almost everything with higher color saturation and it mostly reminded me of Kodak Ektachrome 64, but in a digital way.
Being on the older side now, my first camera was Minolta SRT101. Favorite camera of all times must be the wonderful Minolta XD7. Then to Minolta AF, Sony A-mount, Sony E/EF-mount (still in use) and finally MFT. Now I mostly use the Pana GX9 with Leica 15/1,7. Love light gear, so today I'm gonna pick up a used 9-18 (270€). Thanks for your very practical and enjoying videos!
I still like shooting on my old Nikon D200
Very interesting! And, fun! Emily, you definitely don't need any old or new camera in your hands to capture our attention! If you held a can of alphabet soup, you'd have us reliving the joys of spelling in a soup bowl. "Look, I can spell CCD!" YOU bring a refreshing joy to KZhead. While you may think it's the content that engages your audience, it's the joy and excitement you radiate that connects! 👍🙂
Thank you, I really appreciate that ☺️
Try the C-08080 WZ. It is a tank built like a battleship with high-level optics and a very useful zoom range. I sold lots of images from it back in the day.
My only CCD camera is a D200 I feel like it gives a slide film look more than just a general film look. More saturated and contrasty than negative film to my eyes anyway.
I still use my old D200 once in a while, it's a great body.
D200 is my only interchangeable lens camera. I want a g9.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet but I think you said XD when you showed a CF. It takes both of course. The XD format did not last as long as CF did so I'm sure it would have been more challenging to source one of those. I had the C-5050wz which was smaller. I got a dive case with it which made scubadiving a bit more fun. Eventually I upgraded to the C-8080 bridge camera. Loved that. Keep up the good work.
Wonderful video! Lovely camera! Been going through a change with the approach to what cameras I been using, over the last year I have started to settle for older cameras, they tend to have far more character in the lens and colour science. Give me a decent CCD sensor camera any day! Stopped myself from the megapixel trap and just enjoying the selections of point & shoots ( digicams ) Bridge cameras and a few DSLRs, So many great older cameras out there! Thanks for sharing and your enthusiasm is contagious!
Ha! I have a C5060 (which quit working years ago--not worth fixing, as tech had moved on, but I keep old gear regardless of its condition). At the time, it was highly-touted and I loved using it, but when I see those images today, I don't regret moving on. I also have a Lumix ZS7, which also uses a CCD. Again, OK but not stellar images, especially compared to more recent tech (or film, for that matter). That one still works, but has a lot of sensor dust, and it would cost way more to clean it than replace it (I'm not keen on DIYing that). I wouldn't say that either is the digital version of a Holga (and for many shots, they work just fine), but if you've been spoiled by ridiculously overkill IQ, you may be disappointed. Of course, those were both huge upgrades over the Sony Camedia mini-CD units (with up to 2MP)! If I'm going to use an older camera, it'll likely use film...
Ahh, I have had this exactly camera since January 2023, and while not that long, I absolutely love it. My first digital camera was the Nikon d40 in 2008. Anyway, love your channel and videos!
I grew up with film, and I bought a 1Mp camera when they first came out. (I also taught DOS v1.0 about a hundred years ago, too.). I love these reviews of old cameras. Some of my best shots I’ve ever taken were with a Pentax Optio 330 GS, believe it or not. I want to get one again. The marketing of “New and Improved” have been used for decades, but don’t be taken in. Some of those old cameras produce remarkable shots. Are you familiar with Ally, over on One Month Two Cameras on KZhead? She’s FABULOUS! Good video, Emily!!
Whoaa I have this and the 5050! Both are lovely, though I prefer the faster lens of the 5050. Btw for those wondering, you can disable the auto-reset from the setup menu so you don’t have to fear losing your settings every time you turn the camera off :D
Alex Majoli from Magnum Photos shoot on Olympus 5060
Used two Olympus 5060s right? It would make sense as writing to the card takes a while!
I agree that CCD sensors are less "film like" than they are "different" from CMOS. It's the jpeg color science that makes them unique between brands (more than CMOS sensors are). I have a collection of mostly 10 to 15 year old cameras that really do make photography more fun (and creative) than just grabbing a shot with a phone.
I just got a battery extension for this camera and it adds a few more buttons. It adds more of what I love about handling this C-5060.
After doing a run of videos on the newer Leica SL cameras, I've been told numerous times to try and get my hands on an older CCD sensor Leica. And now after this, I REALLY want to try out a CCD camera! Even if they're slow AF 😂
We shall have to go camera thrifting very soon 👀
Seeing the film, it reminds me of how blurry film was. That hazy image when you really look closely. I shot a lot of slide and negative film and when I shifted to digital, a full frame Canon 5d2 was a radical advance from 35mm film and I had zero regrets and never wanted to return to film as film was such a massive struggle on so many levels.
Thanks for sharing Emily, really enjoyed watching it.... The more so i have olympus camedia 7070 pretty much the same camera with more pixels and I love it. Lens is super sharp and I really enjoy shooting with build in flash set to slow on 2nd curtain. Its just beautifull camera in my opinion. Thanks again for sharing 🤙🏽
What a trip down memory lane! My first digital was the Olympus C-3040. Loved that camera. Funny, when I go back and look at the images, I never wish that I'd had more than 3mp. I do wish the files lent themselves more to pushing and pulling though, Dynamic range wasn't great compared to modern cameras, but in 2000 I didn't know that and was very happy.
"Dynamic range wasn't great compared to modern cameras, but in 2000 I didn't know that and was very happy." Nor did anyone else bother with that. Don't forget that film was still very much as it had been for 40-50 years or more and ASA ratings ranged from 25 ASA to about 1600ASA and anything over ASA 160 was B&W, the higher the ASA the grainier it got, becoming almost unusable with some top end ASA ratings. I picked up a used Camedia 3030 in 2003 it was my main camera until I went to a Sony for another major OS holiday. The camera was definitely inferior to the c3030 in results, I should have taken the Olympus. The digital brand I have gone back to and still use, the innovators of most modern technology built into the camera today.
My adventure with photography was partially started because I dug up an old Canon Powershot S3 IS. 6 MP! CCD! 3 usable ISO values! (2 rather noisy) but my gosh I love the photos it takes so much I take it everywhere with me. Like you said, I love the tactile feeling, and the images it takes have.. I dunno, the vibe!
I mean the vibes on that camera are make me jealous! lol. Awesome video.
My first digital camera was a Camedia! A 3.2 megapixel beast in 2000! Seriously though, aside from the awful battery life, I loved it at the time and I loved not having to worry about wasting shots on film because I did a lot of that as a kid and my Mum and Grandad where never best pleased when the prints came back 😅
My first digicam too, still got it and use it now and again
My first digital camera too, and yes, I still have it, though don’t use it. It takes Olympus XD’ cards, and luckily I still have two left.
I used to get quite acceptable shots with my 5 MP 10x zoom Kodak bridge camera, and I liked the filter thread, and the option to plug in an external flash. As to the 0.4 sec, unless you had a motor drive on your film SLR, it probably took you 5 seconds between shots, so 0.4 sec isn't really all that bad. One of my granddaughters has just inherited an old Nikon or Canon camera, almost the size of a Box Brownie (I exaggerate) with about a 12x zoom, and she is starting to get good photos. Fun is fun.
I see a lot of kids with these cameras now and I think it's great, it's fun and affordable. Phones pulled the rug out from under true entry level photography, people going back to these are getting a dedicated camera with a proper lens and manual control and they don't have to spend hundreds of pounds to get it. The limitations force you to learn the basics of exposure and composition and if you grow out of it that's a much better place to start looking at more capable cameras from than complete zero.
I’m 71 so I do like the older cameras and have a large collection of working film cameras. I have had an Olympus E3 for several years and it has always been a reliable shooter. I only recently discovered that it has a LiveMOS sensor and not a CMOS. I too have heard all the hype about the Kodak CCD sensors. Since it uses the same lenses as my E3 I picked up a E330 and E500. The E330 also has the LiveMOS sensor so more homework and I got the E500 with the Kodak CCD sensor. To be really honest I don’t think the CCD is more filmic looking than the LiveMOS. I think the look has way more to do with the color science and algorithms that Olympus uses than the sensor.
I remember the Sony Mavica, where the recording media was a 3.5" floppy disk. I AM OLD. At that time, my other camera was a Pentax K 1000. Still have the Kand it still takes such consistent shots on the stock 50mm
AND, definitely partly due to this channel, have a Pentax Q 10 coming from Japan
Yep, I inherited this one from my mom. I love taking it out for the weekend.
I have two cameras that have CCD sensors - a Nikon D200 and an Olympus e500. I also have a 5dc that has a CMOS sensor. They all produce great images.
I had one of these - Olympus C5060 - it was my first digital camera. (Still have but it gave up a very long time ago.) I loved it. It did have a setting though that increased the resolution of the images - in my naivity I thought this would be good and used the setting for a very long time until I realised it was brutally sharpening as it was upsizing. Was pretty pissed off with Olympus when I realised my first couple of thousand photos were useless...
I have a canon S45 for fun. It's not film like, but it has a charm. But I don't miss my old CCD DSLR cameras...
My first camera was my father's Leica C-III that he got in Germany in 1945. My first digital camera was an Olympus C-5050Z, which I still have and still use occasionally. It's a fun camera, and the pictures are better than you would expect. It has an HD JPEG mode where you actually can do some editing of the file. It's not magic, any more than my Fujifilm X-S20, which is supposed to have Colour Science, and doesn't particularly. Anyhow, I did enjoy this video.
I feel like when a lot of people say, "Film look," what they mean is, "One hour photos from a drugstore with old chemistry and a machine that's out of calibration." But hey, that is an authentic, vintage look that sparks nostalgia for people who grew up with it. It's just not a true representation of what film can do.
Iam shooting a Olympus c100 with 1,3 mp it is really fast and the pictures are like of a disposable film camera It is really nice and I love the styling with the sliding clamshell and little viewfinder
that is such a pretty camera! very tempted to go hunting for one myself
I've watched a few CCD vs CMOS videos and its just color science that people like or remember. Its kind of like every time a company releases a camera that's almost like a film stock and people are like this camera had the best colors. I've seen the Pentax CCD VS CMOS video and a Nikon CCD vs CMOS and the Olympus CCD vs CMOS and its just color science. It would be nice if camera companies let you pic a model of older cameras to have their camera science. I like the first E-M5 jpegs but I wish I could tell my E-M1ii to use the color science from the E-M5. I still like the E-M1ii but the E-M5 colors are nice in warm. One thing I was watching one video I can't remember who I think it was M43 U.K. channel. Someone said presets work best with lower megapixel cameras with raw files.
If you use DXO you can select a filter that matches the colour science of older bodies.
@@cameronm5248 I forgot to say that. I do use DXO for noise reduction but I still like Lightroom best for editing images. The sliders in Lightroom just work the best for me.
One really good thing about ccd sensors is that they have a global shutter
Samsung wb150f best kept secret digicam. Zoom to 720, fits in your picket and you can shoot full manual. Btw keeping my om-5 but just bought a g9 ii.
Emily, to follow the CCD rabbit hole a bit further with Olympus, try a XZ-1 'advanced' compact, quite amazing detailed and colourful results. I was lucky to get one witth two extra batteries, they don't last long. Robin Wong is probably right about CCD colour compared to more recent cameras, 'attractive, but not especially accurate'.
I had a C5050 until it just stopped working. It was a great little camera. I think I still have the dive case I bought for it, but never used.
I took a lot of good photos, even semi-professionally, with my Nikon D50, which has 6 Mp CCD APS-C sensor. I can not remember correcting colors other than adjusting white balance.
This takes me back. While I never had an Olympus digicam, I did start way back when with a Kodak DC-50. CCD Sensors are not bad at all in what they produce, the big problem - as far as I know - is that they are way too slow for modern resolutions and shutter speeds. I don‘t see the comparison to film, by the way - back in my starting days (80‘s!) I developed my own B&W 35mm and 120 films and - of course - put them on paper. I don‘t ever want to go back! As to „are they charming“? Yes, certainly. But: if I actually find time in my day to go on a photo walk, I would prefer not to use it to take 3MP images, I‘ll take a modern camera instead 🙂 By the way, we have the same watchband LOL
Oh, and one more thing to consider: the restricted requirements of storage media are really hard to fill these days. CF cards are rarities you don‘t come by often. And forget about getting replacement batteries for these old pieces of kit!
I don't remember hearing of that camera before, quirky! I like the old cameras too. Back in the day I owned a Mavica, but I gave it away, now I wish I still had it, it would be fun to save my JPGs to floppy disk again. But the CCD thing, I don't buy it. I have the LX5, from 2010, I love it! The images from it are great. But I don't find them better than my modern cameras. I just don't understand what the CCD craze is about. Nice cameras yes, I agree with that!
The digital version of a bellows and plate film camera My entry is digital Canon point and shoots and I find the way they are "like film" is more about how I need to transfer the images from the memory card and "develop" them than any particular quality in the photo which is almost always bad. I'm just not good at composing a photo.
I miss my first digital camera the Nikon Coolpix 885. I thought that I'd arrived in the photography world with a 32mb card. It took silent video at 15 frames a second. When I got my Nikon D50, then I doubled my megapixel count to 6mp. I still have the images from both cameras, because I'm a data hoarder from when I could first take digital images, and they still hold up today. Just no pixel peeping though. Either you've been eating porridge for breakfast or somebody has turned the Halation dial up to 11. 😇
5hat Canon 2as very popular in it's time, along with something like the Sony Mavic series.
Canon Powershot A590 IS & I’ve still got it and occasionally use it.
Oh i also bought the 5060 a couples of months ago because of the Retro Look.But i think it was a Mistakte because the C5050 has F 1.8-2.6. i found out after buying😑 Love the mechanical start up sound and hate the crappie Nintendo like Menue.
I always enjoy your videos, but I think in this case it might have been better to either make this video about "old tech" digicams (without getting the CCD sensor thing), OR make it about CCD sensors vs MOS sensors. In that case it would be better to use one of the Olympus CCD DSLRs like the E-300, E-400, or E-500, all of which are 8 to 10Mp and can use the excellent Olympus Four Thirds lenses. Those specs allow these cameras to give a good showing of any potential IQ differences of their CCD sensors vs. similar generation live MOS or later CMOS sensor cameras. Personally, I shot a ton of images with an E-300 and several of the other Olympus Four Thirds DSLRs (with CCD and Live MOS sensors) and when I look at them now I don't see anything "better" about the CCD images. Olympus - and every other camera maker - has always tried for the best IQ they can produce with the tech available, and from my viewing, they adapted the new-back-then MOS sensors with as good, or better, color science while gaining all the benefits of reduced costs, increase image speeds, live viewing, and higher resolution. Thanks for all your work, Emily.
Extra points for the PNW Seattle shirt. Cheers from Seattle.
This trend is fascinating to me because I'm old enough to just still have CCD cameras that i bought 20 years ago ad that is a weird feeling. I bought a Nikon D50 (6mp CCD) in 2005 right after high school and a Nikon Z50 (21mp CMOS) a couple years ago. In all honesty, they are remarkably interchangeable. The D50 was pro quality back then so i it kind of makes sense that its still "good enough" now. I think the zoomers are just after that crap camera look with muddy dynamic range and light streaks, it's not an accurate depiction of reality but it's still charming in the same way as black and white is. Btw: the D50 turns on INSTANTLY, is built like a tanks and the battery lasts forever because it doesn't have a live view.
I still like my Kodak cx7350 it was my first foray into digital camera from my canon film camera.
(Rubbing hands) I have a C5050 upstairs somewhere and you mentioning the C5060 should raise the values of all related models. Yay. Oh, tip: if you find the battery is running down fast, try removing the CF card when not used. I read somewhere that the batteries try to keep current going through the CF card. Don’t know if true or false but worth a look if you have that issue.
Fine and fun to use, for me that one for me is also sentimental
Old cameras bring back all my (bad) memories of shots lost. Thanks.
I have my feet planted in both camps. I love film, however, the developing and cost hampers me somewhat. I own several high end ccd models and they are sufficient for me.
They belong in the present! Love my 5060 and the rest of my crazy ccd/old camera collection.
Hi Emily i really like your videos ,your inspired me to buy mft camera my first camera ever I really like photography but it so expensive especially when you use full frame system so i searched and i found MFt and first person i found on youtube is you really enthusiastic person who really like the system only thing that concern me is mft good for professional work is it a good investment i really like to hear your opinion
Hi! Yes, there are plenty of professionals who use micro four thirds! Everything from concert photographers, to portraits, to weddings. Sometimes you may need to choose your lenses wisely, but it's a great system 😊
Mhm, this thing is getting a little blown out of proportions maybe. I recently got a Nikon d40x as a gift and looking at the first pics out of that did give me a bit of a retro vibe. But I bet if I had exposed them a little less it would have looked way different. It's just nice that there's more variety in sensors though as you say. And sometimes less perfect is more interesting. I still have my first digicam a 2 mpixel Olympus Camedia C150? That one's a bit rough to me though...
Had the c7070 ...it was pretty unique 😂😂😂 it can use an external battery grip too😮😮😮
it depends on the camera used, some Nikon CCD does indeed give this film ish vibe, especially the color grading
My 10mp Pentax K-10d, k-70, nikon d60, d200 have a color science compared to my new m43 that just blows people away regardless of the fact they are 25 or 20mp.
I've been shooting since '85 and on digital since '04. I shoot 2-4 times a week, so I spend a LOT of time playing with images. I really liked the "Kodak Gold" pictures - the grainy, slightly fuzzy, look worked with the colors present to say "old school cool". I didn't care for the CCD camera shots - the multicolor nature of the visible noise was far more intrusive than the film grain and the colors just didn't have that "certain something". To me, those shots looked like exactly what I would expect out of digital camera too primitive to really get the job done. Sorry :( I was hoping to love the CCD.
Maybe the new denoising programs can help these files. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
@@martingreenberg870 I think they absolutely could.
I tried film, CCD, small sensor etc over the past 3 years or so. My personal conclusion is that these things are cool and nostalgic but hardly practical and the cameras will sit in your shelf and depreciate. In 2024 older cameras absolutely have a place but there is a limit. Sweet spot would be an M43 or APS-C from 10-12 years ago. Otherwise no go. The only camera to hold my attention and make the cut is the Fuji X30 (2/3 inch sensor). Its modern enough, has great handling, features, and shooting experience. Nothing else has conpared.
Do you mean CF card, not SD card?
Is it a digicam craze or maybe we just miss the affordable compact cameras which have disappeared as smartphone cameras improved.
You would get a kick out of Sigma's Foveon cameras
The tactile and sensory experience really do matter. Things like ASMR videos, for example, are popular because our Generic Black Slabs of technology leave us thirsty for the physical sensations of real world.
Just ask Panny about the GH7 in Osaka.
£25!? I want one just for that flippy screen and the sound effects 😂
Isn't it the cutest silly thing 😂
I use my ‘new’ 2011 olympus xz-1 more than my bigger and better cameras
Olympus c5050 is arguably better. AA batteries, ultra sharp f1.8 .
These fads are amusing to me. An online used camera site is selling a Nikon D200 in EX condition (10MP CCD) for more money than a Nikon D300 in EX condition (12MP CMOS). It makes no sense. You can get "the look" during edit if you shoot RAW files. The D300 is a great camera, with very nice colors. Similar to the D700. I highly recommend it for the budget minded photographer, of any skill level. I started shooting film in 1976. Zero desire to shoot film today. The extra expense, and having to take the film to a processor... is a waste of time and money.
I think you held up a CF card not XD 😊
I did!! 🙈
I did wonder :) XD v different and IMHO rubbish :)
@@staryjanekI had a fujifilm something or other bridge camera in the early-mid noughties that took XD and Compact Flash cards. I don't recall XD being inferior to SD cards of similar era in use, it was just one standard that was used by Fuji and Olympus, while other brands used SD and CF was higher capacity and pitched at people who wanted to shoot big (5 OR 6 MP! ) RAW files. Obviously SD won out in the battle of card formats but I don't remember XD being objectively bad. Actually IIRC, before SD cards there was another card type with similar form-factor. Possibly MC cards.
@@chrishowell5718 fair comment
5050 is better, use AA battery
im really confused with this video.
I had sx420 is to spy my ex 😅😂😂
Using it because you want that "film look" is just nonsense. You can always revert a higher quality photo to a "film look" but imagine you capture an amazing moment and now it stays forever in 720p but you actually had the option to have it in 16Mp or 20Mp. You can make gold look like shit but you can't make shit look like gold
XD and Compact Flash? Wow. Was this the first camera with dual card slots?
Haha just compact flash, my bad 🙈
XD cards are hard to find. Good luck. Maybe when you buy the old camera the previous owner will throw in the card. I always love to get something for nothing. Mask On Nurse Marty(Ret)
In my opinion, CCDs (or 99% of all CCD cameras rather) are trash by today‘s standards. Less dynamic range, bad color science, less resolution … yeah, you can find people who still prefer to watch a Laserdisc over a BluRay for that "magic", but that doesn‘t make it objectively true. If you want that real nostalgia magic, shoot film.