How can a NA Camaro SS beat a stock ZL1 .. Here's the secret!
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I give you my thoughts on why the Camaro SS is so formidable in naturally aspirated form and how in many cases they are able to beat the mighty ZL1 without boost. The LT1 engine is a great platform for mods. What do you think about the Camaro platform?
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Camaros are so slept on.
Yeah I know lmao 🤣 tell me about it
Extremely. And mustangs over hyped
@@Akosa117 I disagree. I hardly see the Mustang getting the respect it deserves compare to Camaros and Scats.
YES THEY ARE
@@thullraven1 way more mustang content than camaro content
In a world full of boost, its refreshing to see N/A builds get the love it deserves. I personally love the throttle response and sound you get from them! Dope vid racer X
N/A is awesome, super underrated.
Im in love with my 10 speed SS. Great overall performers. They can turn and brake along with straight line speed!
What do the 6 speed, 10speed etc. Mean?
@@darkNovaskar anount of gears in the transmission
@@darkNovaskar 10 speed is automatic transmission, 6 speed is manual.
@@darkNovaskar 6 speed manual transmission, 10 speed automatic transmission. almost as good as the PDK of Porsche!
@@z06king better..its realible unlike the euro trash.
I have a 17 1LE with very few mods. A cam, intake manifold and headers tuned for 93 it puts down 527hp and 473tq. Sounds amazing and it hauls ass
I have a 18’ 1le with a small cam headers and a bigger throttle body and a closed cold air intake a tune and I make around 520 to the wheels. She’s got three speeds, here, there, and gone 🤌🏾 I also recommend the nitto 555 g2s so far those have been the best gripping tire I’ve used 🤝🏽
I’m really glad you make videos like these, and give an estimate on the price to add power very helpful.
I’ve been waiting to hear you talk about the Camaro and lt1 platform, you never disappoint thank you
Awesome video! I’m a mustang owner but I love the SS Camaro’s with a nice h/c/i package, they sound so good when they’re choppin at a light 🔥
After adding a p1sc-1 pro charger with a stage 2 intercooler to my 2018 SS 1LE, I surpassed ZL1 power. Bored with that I pulled the engine, bored it .010 over and rebuilt it with forged pistons, rods, hydraulic roller rockers, stage 2 cam, long tube headers with cat deletes, E85 sensor, LT4 injectors, high press. Fuel pump, swapped some pulleys, one piece drive line and new axles all rated for 1000+HP, triple disc monster clutch, and went with Toyo R888 tires….my car is a monster now.
Sweeeeet…….🔥🔥🔥
You should make some vids on that beast. Show the world what you got and make some bucks.
@@alexoike5381 I did an AFD/DOD delete and put a Katech delete cover. There’s a lot of stuff I didn’t list but they come factory with 455/455 HP/Torque and I’m at 826.7/787 HP/Torque with the Mods thus far. I built it as a track car(not a drag car) because of the handling so I’m really at about the usable limit of HP for that application. I’ve thought about upgrading the P-1SC-1 pro charger to a D1X (you can send it in and they can upgrade it for you at pro charger to give you more boost(I’m only running about 7psi right now), but that may be a bit too much for the track. I’ll maybe do a video with a cold start and a look under the hood if you wanna check it out. Check my KZhead page after this weekend. I have a few old cars that I own that I’ve done little personal videos on.
No disrespect, but I love how you talk about a built car vs stock LOL. The amount of money you likely spent to get the car to "surpass" a zl1 with your "procharger" figure what between 6-8 thousand? or even when you did the rebuild to have it rated at "1000whp" is insane. If you threw that same money into a stock zl1 youre not even coming close. A stock zl1 from the factory strength wise is good for around 1000hp. Meaning the amount of money you put into that car could have been used in a better way with the zl1 as the internals are already built for it. going to be significantly cheaper than rebuilding the motor so that you have forged internals. I have a 2013 1ss cammed N/A that puts down about 500whp. And a completely stock 17 zl1. My cammed LS3 smacks stock 6th gen ss cars, and snackpacks LOL, But it doesnt even come close to my zl1. Look up the video of cleetus mcfarland doing a CAI, and upper pulley swap on stock zl1 and it picks up 100whp. Now sure, for track days/road course then you get into heat soak because youre overspinning the blower. But for a street car thats insane we are talking maybe a grand for the upgrades and tuning. The real monster is throwing the 2650 maggie on it with supplemental mods.
Great content as usual! Thank you for covering the Camaro SS, love these rides, on my 5th one since 2010! Everyone being an SS as well
for sure my friend..
@@RacerX9 what would be a reliable way to get to 500 whp on one of these NA.
Thanks for the great review.... I ordered the 2023 2SS 4 months ago after watching this video....I went with the black with the red break calipers as shown in your video. Anyway It is being delivered next week. Very excited about it.. It certainly sucks that the car is being discontinued next year . Appreciate your great review..Seeing this color combination encouraged me to move forward on my order.
You are dead on with this one X thank you for all this great info!
Great video! I have a 2016 2SS Camaro with 3000 actual miles on it. I've really started considering making it faster. This video has really helped me figure out the direction my car needs to head towards. Thanks!
i have a 2020 1SS 1LE Camaro with 3400 miles on it. I bought it new and is a garage dweller. I know what i want to do with it but, you got to pay to play.
All I got to say is chevys 632 big block that is n/a pushing 1000hp. Straight beast
Perfect timing racer x. I'm debating getting a 20 rally green ss 🤔 my buddy did h/c on his and hit 590rw
Thank you for your knowledge race X you have been my mentor with this car game
3rd time I have listened too. Great video full of excellent info. Well done Racer X
That’s crazy a n/a platform can out perform a boosted one I like the content keep up the great work!
Stock zl1 on 93 vs a fbo e85 lt1 direct injected motor with a trans tune and motor tune. Also lighter, It should win. Put a pulley on the zl1 and a tune and it’s no longer a race.
@@joshreynolds729 facts
Modded vs unmodded comparisons are retarded. Modded ZL1s put down 800+ rwhp. The end.
This was so informative, this guy really knows his stuff and he made me think twice and maybe the SS is the best choice. If I ever buy one, I will ask him if he is available for a paid consult as what to do to make it track ready.
Great show mate and very well explained thank you very much
Correct on all points, and the same thinking applies not to just Camaros but previous generation Corvettes as well. Not just a C8 but C6 and C7 and even C5 take mods great and being lighter are even faster. I miss my head/cam C6 and would like to pick up an older GS or Z car and do a head/cam bolt on car again. A lot of great options for folks depending on what they want to spend. A new GT500 or ZL1 is fantastic but I chose a Charger Redeye instead and haven't regretted that choice since I'm lined up for an early C8 Z06 as well. I've always looked at it as if I want a 2 door I only want 2 seats so it's light and sporty, and if it has a back seat may as well have 4 doors and be comfortable for people getting in and out. The Charger platform paired with a Corvette is perfect for me. I looked at a CT5-V BW too, another good choice for 4 doors. If I could only have 1 though maybe a GT500 or Vette only. But luckily I can have 2 or 3.
I'm going na myself! Right now I have lt2 intake manifold 2" long tubes straight piped e85. Shes putting down 481hp 457tq Next heads cam bigger injectors and zl1 fuel pump should be close to 600 wheel!!!
That was very informative. I really love your videos. Thanks for all that informative information. I did light mods and a predator tune on my 19 zo6. On a dynojet it put up 579 wheel and 615 torque. It's a little dangerous on the street.
Ordered a 2023 2SS 1LE in Rapid Blue a few days ago, wish me luck that I can get one built and delivered in a timely manner. After years of boosted cars, I'm back to my first cars, NA V8s, and I was planning on going the route you talked about.
1LE is the way to go
You’ll be at least 6 months or longer. If you got the pdr it’ll be even longer
See it next June!
You wont regret it
I really wanted a zl1 but after watching this video, a ss wouldn't be too bad, and the extra 15-20k savings wouldn't hurt either. Thanks!
Awesome content buddy 👍💪🔥
Thanks that was good information intake and head work is all it needs you
I finally got my 2022 2SS coupe with the 6spd. I love all the muscle cars but the Camaro just overall suited me the best. Fantastic car with the best handling and an amazing engine and transmission
What is the HP and gas milage?
Love your videos man. Very informative
Was about to get a ZL1 over a 2SS 1LE, until I saw this video. Thanks
Sold my 2019 SS after a drive to Denver from Houston, accompanied by a hellcat charger, and hellcat challenger. Even though I could out handle them in curves, corners and rain(very little) they easily outpaced me on the straightaways( topped out at 168mph according to GPS. I bought a 2021 ZL1 and after meeting up with the same guys, I smoked them from start to finish. Dynoed 659hp to the crank and 650 torque. I decided to do serious upgrades, whipple charger, cam, 3 stage fuel system flex fuel with E85, tune 10speed transmission, custom intake by RPM, kooks headers ceramic coated and wrapped, high flow cats with cat back exhaust, suspension set up, 325s on the rear, etc. So far $20k. This particular setup gets 1130 hp to the crank, 1000hp to the rear wheels
Sounds Great 👍
Can you tell us which shop did the work on your car ?
Please and thank you
Nice!!!
You keep it up and I'm going to get an LT1
I'm one of the "little guys" who can barely afford the car they have (2017 1SS) lol, but watching your video gives me hope that I can save and tune my ride to become a monster. Great video Racer X and thanks for the guidance on the direction I should take my car.
I'm right there with you. I bought my '22 1SS right when the car market started to go crazy. I got it at MSRP of $40k and some change. Same dealership had a '20 LT1 with 7k miles for $43k. They had a policy where they sell new cars at MSRP and used cars at Market. If I had waited any longer to buy my car I'd have been priced out. I can't find a single example of a 1SS that I'd be able to hit the $560/month payments I'm doing now. A year later, and with almost 10k miles on the clock and it's now valued at $47,500.
I had a fully built SS and traded it in for a stock zl1 and I’d never go back 🫣
Great information!! I just purchased a 2023 Camaro 2SS Redline Addition exactly like the one in the video and I love my car! My question is I would like to make some of the mods modifications but concerned that would effect the factory warranty! Tks
Got my 22 2ss1le manual 2 months ago. I was lucky and it took little over 3 months from order to receiving the car. It is my warm weather toy car and in love with it. I can carry my kid in the backseat too. My goal is to build a reliable na setup around 550 to 600 whp. The stock exhaust on these cars are amazing and love the pops crackles
Great content as always, you do your homework and research like know one else. Not being a GM fan at all, but they do make a very good engine for N/A. Excellent video bud.
So are you a Mopar guy,? Or do you drive around in those,... Frickin Overheats Rollin Downhill?
@@rickhenry9044 Dude you are not worth taken decent time for good response. Just take your rude ass back to the GM trash can you came out of.
@@rickhenry9044girl what?
Just got my 2022 LT1 and all I can say is WOW! Perfect mix of muscle and sports car about time for the modding to begin
I recommend getting the flex fuel kit and e85 tune first. It’s definitely the most power you can add for the price. It’s a noticeable difference (30-50hp) depending on the tune and it’s less than $1000 all in.
I like how you cover all cars. All cars are cool
Wow… My buddies neighbor has a Camaro SS that will trash a stock Hellcat… it’s totally true and they sound insanely cool🤘🤘 Excellent content X!
Absolutely my friend
“Someone who is a little bit more budget conscious” 😂😂 that’s one way to put it 👍🏻
I watch this guys KZhead because he has interest in content but mostly because he's an intelligent dude that isn't a ying yang like so many other guys on yt and who seems to give a straight shot to all brands. Thanks!
Good information. Thanks.
Right on time! I took delivery of my 22 10speed last month and there's waaaayyyy more options when it comes to mods and it's easier to tune as well. After coming from a 392 I'm excited to see how this will perform!!
I just picked up my 2020 10-speed 2SS yesterday, I’m extremely excited! I also came from a 392 charger with all the mods( FBO /E85) it ran well but in a world of 10 speeds it wouldn’t be able to compete with the best NA setups. Heads/Cam , E85 package is the first mods im getting when i break the car in!
@@michaelchevalier990 what does e85 do? just allow you to be able to use e85 or what?
@@Orestella higher octane gas.
@@mr.puddintater1805 would your car not be able to use that kind of gas without an e85 tune?
@@Orestella with E85 you can bump the timing and make more HP...
agreed, i have a 2019 2SS that is FBO/E85. Stock Heads/Cam & stock converter running 11.10's on a 90 degree 3000DA day!
How much did you spend for everything bro? If you don’t mind
THIS IS AWESOME!!! THANKS!!! THINKING ABOUT MODS FOR MY 2018 SS. WHAT ABOUT CALI SMOG? WILL A CAMMED UP MARO PASS?
Outstanding content 👍
I have a 2021 2ss 6spd loaded and I get tons of compliments from scat pack owners. The 2ss 6spd is so underrated, it's very fast, loaded with technology, hud, sunroof bose leds, active performance exhaust
You probably beat Mustang GTs too.
@@zacharyrose1959 Hahaaa
Every feature you just mentioned is in any loaded car accept the the active exhaust, so nothing special
@@invalidusername_5101 He's saying that and how underrated the Camaros are because they are very underrated cars compared to the Mopars and Mustangs.
@@zacharyrose1959 no shit
@racerX I love all the videos and info you put out
Awesome video! One question, adding that much hp don't you need to change over to a forged bottom end (forged pistons and crankshaft) from a reliability standpoint? How much hp can you add on a stock non forged bottom end? Any light you can provide would be very mutch appreciated. Keep up the great videos.
I wouldn't go more than 150-200hp on the stock bottom end.. boosted or NA
They safely make 600-650whp depending on the tune. The higher you go you're gonna need e85 or meth to keep the temps down so you don't bust the piston rings
Good information! Thanks!!
Great video with excellent information
Good vid. Nice seeing love for the SS. E-85, tune, and an LT2 intake will put ya in the 11s for a few hundred dollars
I like the Camaro I hope it never goes away, in fact it was my first car. I’m still pissed they got rid of the fire bird that would have been nice to see in the through back body style. And idk what anyone says Chevy sounds the best on a nice choppy cam however dodge does to but it’s less common and the cam isn’t as aggressive. Maybe for my next car I’ll get a camaro or a vet who knows it’s been a long time.
I just got my 2022 lt1 and I freaking love it 🔥🔥
Can’t wait to mod my 2ss great vid very informative
I’ve seen multiple of these on the dyno with 420-425hp stock to the rear wheels. But you’re right it just depends on the dynos and weather.
That’s about what mine was getting stock. I only added a flex fuel kit with tune for e85 since then but it added 40 rwhp. It’s a very noticeable difference when driving.
I got more than that in my Caddy.
My 6.0 Silverado gained just over 100 hp with tune and MAF change. Burns tires LOL
Anything 410+ is a unicorn, and 420-425 is like Powerball jackpot, or people are lying, or dynos are far more gracious than the reality of things. 99% of these cars dyno 390-405, Anything over that is a factory freak, and is the farthest thing from being common you can get. In all my research of dyno numbers I've only see 2 or 3 that hit close to 420, and that is assuming people are not lying, and the dyno shop is not full of shit.
Appreciate the Camaro love 🥰
Recently bought my 2SS 1LE 6spd manaul, which bought me to this video and h/c/i and tune is all you need from what I've been reading. The 1le is a monster, such an underrated car
Great content as always, I love my SS.
Where you going for these cams and head packages over in tri state they looking for 7k
You should do a camaro NA build id like to see what you can make out of it
That is great gain for these performance parts. And your safe for N/A compare with boost but you still need a good tuner.🇨🇦👏😎💪👍🇨🇦
Love the details on the video , its one i will be looking to get soon and add a a VictorRacing active wing on it .
I always loved the lumpy cams but my memories ask, will it go through emissions and are there overheating concerns or stop light stalling?
Emissions should be fine and stalling depends. If your car is an automatic transmission it is much more likely to stall depending on what stage cam you get. You should be fine with a 6 speed manual. cars with a cam really want to just take off so normal city driving at a light will require more acceleration and gas when taking off in first gear or it will stall.
I get what you're saying and normally it would be appealing. My issue is I live at 5,000ft in elevation where their air is thinner. So forced induction is something that appeals to me, especially turbocharged. This is why I'm considering the ZL1 option.
How does elevation effect forced induction?
@@Texaslivinn97 Forced air helps what can be an “air-starved” condition for NA cars at higher pressure altitudes. It’s just like when you jog at higher pressure altitudes and get quickly winded.
Actually? Blower cars are affected by it, because the pulley isn’t freewheeling like a turbo is. Granted, it’s slightly LESS affected than a NA car, but only turbo cars aren’t affected because the turbo freewheels and you get allllllll the power.
Superchargers are forced induction and under boost, so they are better than NA at higher pressure altitudes. Turbochargers are the least affected.
@@Texaslivinn97 Oxygen is the catalyst in Air that is used in the combustion process. At higher altitudes the atmospheric pressure is lower and the air particles are more spread out. This means that per cubic foot of volume there is less oxygen at higher altitudes than at sea level. Forced Induction, super charged or Turbo, creates a significant vacuum, pressurizes the air it's intaking (thus measuring boost in psi), and forces that into the combustion chamber, there by overcoming the deficit of density found at high altitude.
This is what I’M TALKING ABOUT!! A real upload 🦾😎 💯
Lol..
I've always been a mustang guy but now you got me thinking about Camaro SS 👍
Bro! You Da Man I Enjoy every Vlog
I've always wondered why mopars didn't react to mods the way Mustang and Camaro do. My friend did a cam, long tube headers, and of course a tune on a SS. His car beats my ZL1 every time not by much but a win is a win
why don't you tune it
@@ilsl04 Warranty
@@StreetCars101TV same reason here. I don’t want to pay to fix it
@@captainjinx42 exactly! The car was already expensive, not looking to put more money into it. Other than that I would just buy a faster car
could also be weight. they are pretty heavy
I have the 2021 SS 1LE with a 6 speed. The engine in mine is actually a Vette engine. They took left over Vette engines from the C-7 and put them in the SS 1LE. There is a metal tag attached to the engine that says performance center Bowling Green Kentucky with the builders name on it.
I just beat a C7 from 40-120 on the highway in my 2021 LT1 10-Speed
The LT1 is a Vette engine or a Camaro engine,,, whatever way you want to look at it.
@@Nobamaable Understood, but the one in the SS 1LE I have was built at the Vette plant. Not all Camaro's with 6.2's got these hand built engines.
@@danaberman6929 You were lied to.
Bought one of these late last year. Took a long time to find it. It's a monster.
Great informative video nice job!
Great video and very informative! Having owned a 2SS, I think it's best of the 3 (Chevy, Ford, Dodge).
Agreed and I’m a huge ford guy. Ford trucks are still the best, but the Camaro definitely beats the other 2 when it comes to cars. Love my 2SS
I ordered a LT1 a few months ago. It just got built and should be here in 2-3 weeks. 6 speed manual in Rapid Blue. Only $37k!!! Great bang for buck. Can’t wait. Thinking of doing heads and cam like you say.
Congrats! Great choice on color too. LT1 is huge value, not spending as much $$$ on factory options that you will end up swapping out anyway.
@@mikedaleiden7725 exactly my boy! Someone who gets it! 👍 picked it up yesterday. Pretty sweet.
@@pedrohizzle2835 Excited for ya! Now the toughest part of buying a new sports car...the break in.
@@mikedaleiden7725 there’s a breakin? Lol
Great video! You make a great argument for the NA LT1. If it's an auto-trans SS, and you did the cam swap and head work, (cnc ported,, good valves, etc.), would a converter/Trans work be needed? Would that effect drivability ? Thanks in advance!
That mottos is the one of the best made
Well, I was going to say the SS beats the ZL1 by shooting out a tire on the ZL1, but I like your suggestions better. 😁
LOL that works too
@@RacerX9 any suggestions on a good quality head and cam package ?
@@COMMANDERHAWK22 cam I’d look at Brian tooley racing aka BTR cam Texas speed also has head and cam packages, either ported stock or aftermarket castings and both are great. Heads from Texas speed (PTR heads are good for the price) and a cam from BTR will turn an LT1 into quite the beast Or you got RPM and their packages, they are great as well- they are local to me and tuned my ZL1 after I did the mods. Pricey but there’s a reason they have such a wait list to get into their shop
Power ain't cheap on the LT1. heads cam is easily $5k. FBO with top quality parts is $5-7k with install. $12k for 150-200whp is OK I guess, but it aint pocket change.
agree, especially considering any kind power adder will decimate that for less money.
That’s still a lot cheaper than the $20-25k extra it cost to get a brand new zl1 compared to a new SS
My 17 automatic is going to the shop next week. BTR Stage 2 cam, TSP longtube headers, BTR DOD delete, and CHE trunion kit, and and 8L90 converter with installation is gonna run just shy of $15k
Great video! Very informative. I'm in the market and I'm in between Hellcat Reye and a Zl1
Interesting thoughts and conclusions. Like that.
I chose the Camaro SS because I think its a combination of the best features, you have great handling, its not overly large and it has a NA 6.2 V8 with an EXCELLENT Tremec TR6060 six speed and it cost me $36K (1SS M6). True story, last week I was going out of town for a few hours and a new Hellcat Challenger wanted to do a 40 roll, I obliged knowing I stood no chance. What shocked me is that he didn't start pulling on me until we were north of 100mph, me an M6 on DWS06 all seasons and him an A8 on a tire, not sure what kind of tire but it wasn't stock. He did have a passenger, I did not. Only thing I have on my SS is a RotoFab intake, thats it. Putting down 550-600rwhp in a NA car like this would be wild.
It’s better than the mustang and challenger…… handling by far better. I have one the LT1 is a beast better than the HEMI
The Hellcat has a ton of wasted horsepower for the street and is good to own for bragging rights only. I had the same encounter with a Hellcat and he never did get in front of me because we stopped but he was getting ready to. The Camaro SS is an awesome machine in it's own right and handles great for its weight, better than my ride and far better than a Challenger of any kind ever could.
@@anthonybrock1387 It handles better. It comes down to the drivers in straight line speed against the Mustang GT. I've beaten every SS I ever faced. That said, IMO the king of hp for the price is your LT1. It's a fun ride. 😁
My ZL1 is ridiculous fast! The 2 SS isn’t close. I owned both.
Facts my ss had a Magnuson on it my ss ran 11.2 my zl1 running 9.6
You do stage 3 heads, cam, 13:12 intake and long tubes and you’ll be in the low 10s. Stock ZL1 won’t break into the 10s. He was talking about the fact that you could make a NA ss faster than stock ZL1 with solid mods.
You can also make a civic Camaro fast if you dump enough $$$ in it. If you want more power than the SS just get a ZL1 .
On Race Proven Motorsports site (the dyno pull you showed) a 6th Gen exhaust, heads, cam package (stage 3) is $14,500 ish.. They don't just "slide the cam" in unfortunately. It's either a complete removal of the LT engine OR the whole front clip has to come off.. In fact, the guys at Race Proven Motorsports tend to use the 1st option and just pull the engine because it goes a bit smoother. So I agree, they LOVE mods, but unfortunately, it's not that simple with the LT engine
I think it's a good way to go, because the mopars are so expensive. I really appreciate you
I'm planning on buying a 2ss this year but, can't decide on a 6spd or automatic 🤧🤧 I have my little banger cobalt manual to bang around but, I can only imagine how fun a manual camaro is🙃
I have a manual. Its WAY more fun than an auto. Auto might be a touch faster but who cares, it's not noticeable and in a roll race I think the manual is better. If you don't want to shift, then get the auto.
When car prices start coming down to more reasonable ranges, I was planning to look into a Supra but man...Supra prices are ridiculous without markups. An SS with a few bolt-ons might actually be the better option financially.
And easier to find parts for the supra world has like specific people u have to know to be able to get certain parts for like dash pieces n certain body mods n things of that sort
Great advice thanks
Just subscribed!! I love my SS!!
Because the SS can put down the power pretty damn good. Proper tires, a tune, cold air intake & corsa extreme exhaust. It will be very strong..
I’ve got a 2SS white red line and I’ve had a challenger scatpack the Camaro is just a better car to drive I get compliments everywhere I go
I agree, spot on with everything u said
Definitely a great cam is a must.
I have a cammed camaro ss 1le and live near Irving lol. 1LE is the ultimate NA setup out of American car companies. You get the handling and the speed. Takes all your points to a further level.
just bought my 1le 6spd manual and love it! Def want to the h/c/i one day
@@KickinItWithQ Do it! You won't regret it. Love how the car feels and drives now. We extended redline to 7.2k and it sounds glorious going through the gears.
@@Snicerchopenhanger nice! I appreciate you sharing that info bro!
30% of the ZL1 is upgraded parts that are different from the SS. it's not just the supercharger you're paying for.
Yes sir and that's what most people think.
The ZL1 has the LT4 which isn't a lot different from the LT1. The pistons are the weak point since they are not forged in the stock LT1 if I'm not mistaken. Other than that there isn't much difference between the two besides the obvious blower.
@@khawk5857 when i 1st bought my zl1 i thought the only differences were, the supercharger, 6 piston front brakes, magnetic shocks, wider rims. months later i found things like bigger oil pan, stronger half shafts, diff cooling. it's a big list and it's not easy to find but i did find this...... General Motors tells us this official run around the ‘Ring is actually quite a lot faster than the old Camaro SS. And so it should be, considering "more than 30 per cent of the SS was re-engineered for the ZL1".
@@jasonbrittain7110 gotcha. I had the 1LE on my mind when I was putting my post up and looked again and realized that's not what you were talking about. Yes lap times would also be faster since the ZL1 has the extra ponies. I agree with you since I was thinking of a different model of the SS.
Great Video I agree with you 💯%👍🏿
Good video something to think about
I'm not trying to hate or anything but the camaro zl1 makes 650 hp and torque from factory. Idk where you got 500-550 from, and the ZL1 is a track/lap car so it isnt just more power, you also get better handling suspension, tires, brakes, and many other features. Im not saying its a terrible idea to upgrade your ss, go ahead I just want to clarify and educate ig anyone that would want to try it because it would probably cost you the same amount to upgrade your ss camaro to be the same or more hp than it would be to just buy a zl1 with the aditional feature entrior wise, aethetically wise, and handling too. Again im not hating or trying to make anybody mad lol, I actually have a 2023 ZL1 so im not some random dude driving an altima talking trash LMAOOOOO.
He was talking about rear wheel horsepower. Not crank horse power generally it can go both ways, both are awesome cars to build.
A 2ss stock camaro vs. a stock zl1, however, finds the latter to be quite a bit faster.
Gen 6 19+ SS is one of the best stock sport's cars to buy....simply amazing.
Love the video 💯