The Spectacular Spider-Men #1 - The stars of two of Marvel's biggest series come together in their first ongoing series ever! That's right, Peter Parker and Miles Morales are going to team up on the regular, comparing notes and using said notes to take on some of their most dangerous bad guys. This duo is better than dynamic, amazing, sensational, superior…they're SPECTACULAR! And with GREG WEISMAN, writer of the fan-favorite animated Spectacular Spider-Man series, returning to Spidey along with Spider-Legend HUMBERTO RAMOS, you know it's going to be epic.
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I like how they reference the fact that Peter feels like he's been Spider-Man for 60 years and Miles has been in high school for 10 since it's technically true by our standards
I like how this comic is just Peter and Miles just vibing. You don't get that Original-Legacy hero vibing moments in the mainline comics anymore, which is a shame
This is the main 616 Peter book as far as I'm concerned.
Editor: this is NOT CANON to the cartoon!! Me: But the Weisman characters and mannerisms?! MAKE IT CANON!!!
The fun thing about that is that the show’s over, so you can just decide it’s canon and no one can stop you
Loved the art here. It felt so good to see Ramos draw Spider-Man again. The splash pages looked great, dinamic throughout the issue and those repeating panels of them webbing up the Jackal were cool
I'm surprised it took them so long for them to make a book staring both Spider-Men. If I were Marvel I would have done that right after the Secret Wars
They wanted to prove that Miles could stand on his own in the 616 universe first. Otherwise, he would have just been viewed as the black spider-man forever
@@Dhampir101980okay maybe not after Secret Wars but after Bendis left
I know, right!? And it took a PlayStation game featuring them both to get comic series like this one!
@@Dhampir101980If that's the case, I don't disagree. But it did take awhile but it's probs after the (silent) success of the Ziglar run that Marvel did this.
You know this does speak to something it feels like Amazing Spider-Man has been missing for years now. Actually making it feel like a lived in world. It feels like a problem with modern superhero comics especially that the supporting cast is largely comprised of other superheroes that barely any civilian characters feel like they get room to be fleshed out.
Ironically the show Marvels Spider man addresses this conundrum of two miles by changing jackal into Raymond Warren Peter's high school science teacher in this universe.
Having a well written Peter with the Humberto Ramos artstyle reminds me of the good old days of the 2014 Slott run of Superior/Amazing Spider Man
that was my favorite modern Peter art style so yeah I def got those vibes too! love it!
Marvel should do more of this were successors actually spends time with their predecessors, similar to how Riri and Tony have been in the iron man book. At least that’s how I prefer to sell legacy characters
feels like this should be the main spiderman book. i didnt pick it up because i was so burned out on the current run but after your review i think i'll start to! the art is great for a spidey book and the story seems fun. i love all the deep cuts! i never watched the cartoon but i appreciate you pointing them out. Fan service done right without it being hit over your head for nostalgia berries. If you know you know and if you dont know you find out with Joel's reviews!
Well this is my new "amazing Spider-man" since the flagship title is a trainwreck.
This is wonderful Wiseman know his stuff.
@sixxsixx5410 probably gonna have Norman Osborn be a static character that ruins lives and is never put in his place
I'm glad Greg made interesting side characters as well.
That's his specialty.
What's with these phases comic go through where every other book for a character is great except for the flagship title?
Toxic Fans: “Miles and Peter can never work in the same universe” Me: “Here’s your f*cking proof they do”
I love when the 2 are working together. I’ve been dying for more miles and Peter together.
I love when the 2 are working together. I’ve been dying for more miles and Peter together.
To me they can be a great duo together.
This was a fun start to the series. It has a very dense script introducing characters, establishing a status quo, packing lots of quips and jokes, setting up at least two mysteries, and sneaking in some references. I recommend people read Weisman's Starbrand & Nightmask mini-series, since some of the characters from there bleed onto this series.
🎶My senses bouncin' off a wall Evil lurkin' every day You don't ever need to call I can feel it right away Slim chance to beat the odds But I always find a way You were never just a nobody, go get 'em tiger Swingin' up and away🎶
One of my favourite jokes you didnt mention was when kenny calls pete 'paul' and pete kinda looks backwards in embarrassment. It felt like a tiny dig towards wells' run.
Peter is a better man than me because I would not have tolerated that disrespect 😭😭😭😭
Ayman, Joel! Amen! I loved the light hearted tone of this book. I almost forgot that Spider Man is supposed to be funny.
I LOVE how meta this book was
This issue was alright, the cutaway to the dream sequences didn't work as well in comic form as it wasn't too jarring. I like weisman adding a friend for miles and the fact that he's building a joined supporting cast for peter snd miles is cool
Dang I love seeing Sha Shan again. I always liked her cause she reminded me of my girlfriend lmao
Hulk Jackel 💪, also I love the new characters & they introduce flash’s old girlfriend. The only flaw in this comic is when Peter shout that he finally found the perfect coffee 😂😅. Like don’t they ever make him mature?
1:18 Omg whoever wrote this felt the same way i feel about their relationship as a whole…..Even in the game at coney miles literally runs off because of that damn mysterio thing….we definitely need more of them bonding like how he is with harry because unlike harry, miles is also funny like peter…and i think that relationship could be way better
I thought them choosing to acknowledge that Miles has been dating Starling for some time now but having him suggest flirting with other people at the coffee shop was a very weird detail. Idk why we’re trying to normalize that and as a Miles fan that really irked me, as that doesn’t seem like something Miles would ever do or say. Fun first issue though
this book is in its own continuity. Miles here isn't dating anyone and i think that becomes a plot point with him going on a date with Kamala later in the series. But I get you. Just read it as its own story not tied into their larger books right now.
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 it's confirmed to be 616 tho.
@@nenohuh yeah you’re right and he made a comment about flirt don’t hurt.. which is against his character anywhere else. And then he’ll be on a date with Kamala later. Guess it depends on when this takes place
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 Yeah kamala being in her x men suit makes it difficult tho, timelines are weird in comics lol.
@@makisbizarreadventure4669Greg did say that this book is self contained, so it won't affect either ASM or Spider-Man Miles Morales at all.
Agree it feels they should have made this book while ago. How long have Miles fans been wanting them to hangout more. The vinettes are super weird but putting it together with the solicitations for issue 3 seems to imply someone or something is messing with people's head and Grantjng them their desires.
It is! (Arcade is the one)
Arachnobatic. So crash.
It's great that marvel finally decided to make an ongoing team book between the two Spider-Men
I think this must be the third attempt at integrating Kenny Kong into 616.
OG Bendis Ultimate Spider-Man flashbacks
I wondered if the gwen stacy in this series is either a clone, an alternate version of her or simply a recently revived gwen though I cannot wait to see how peter would repair his relationship with her after she dissipates from the progenitor
Miles body looks crazy most of the time 🤣
I'm just glad they didn't character assassinate Peter just to prop up miles
Dude Peter writers fault not miles the more you bash miles Peter gonna get f
That's not on Miles though, that's on Peter's writers and (largely) Marvel Editorial. Miles has had nothing to do with how Peter's been written ever, regardless of *who* writes Peter's book.
I’m dropping ASM after #50 this will be my new Peter Parker 616 main book
Ahh i was waiting for this!! So glad i hit the notification! Looking forward to seeing both Spidermen in action together
“AcroBatman” beat ‘em to it.
Every time I turn the page I'm expecting Miles to just suddenly drop kick Pete in the face and say they're not friends anymore before he goes on a date with MJ or somethin
........why? Miles is like Peter's most healthy relationship since they've met lol
@@Nerwrax15 one of the recent issues of asm where Miles get on Peter’s ass
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 1. Everyone was on Peter's ass. Did you see how he was acting? 2. Miles was mad that Peter didn't trust him to help during Pete's time of need and Pete flat out ghosted him, and then Miles immediately reasserted that he would still have Peter's back again, which he pays forward in Gang War. Miles did not do anything out of pocket.
@@Nerwrax15 …uh who said Miles was out of pocket? What are you going on about? He said he expected Miles to be upset with Peter and it’s because we’ve been seeing people get upset with Peter. It’s that simple
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 .....no? He said he expected Miles to assault Peter and follow that up with going out with his ex whose about a good decade older than Miles is, who is still highschooler. Wtf?😂😂
Nice to see Humberto Ramos in stuff again.
When I saw this comic being made I immediately thought of the song Swing from Marvel’s Spider-Man 2.
Nice book, can't wait for the next issue.
That cool I love comics
I love this story it’s ten times better than the current amazing Spider-Man book which has been a failure.
Since this is the Jackal, I wonder how much Norman Osborn will be involved
Actually you could make it a drinking game for all the Wisemanisms lol
Whelmed and aster :/ i want YJ szn 5
I genuinely wonder if Weissman is going to play with Peter disclosing that he killed someone in Spider-man versus Wolverine to Miles. I also wonder if Miles is ever going to get a job like Peter. Like how does Miles afford or make his web fluid.
Ganke makes the Web Fluid for him.
It was a fun issue but i would like it if later on future arcs got a bit more serious
A Peter Parker Spider-Man book that's good? 🤯
Pete is great in every Spider book thats not his own lol
Yup
I thought 616 Sha Shan was dead?
She came back in that first Red Goblin story.
Why does Peter Parker wanna hang out with some little kid?!?!?
Wut.
Why not? Miles is his friend and protege
Miles is a fellow Spider-Man and an equal to himself. And he's trying to do right by him since he's really let Miles down recently, and he wants to be better.
Call them Spider-man Red and Spider-man Black. Or Blue and Red
That wouldn’t work because they both have red in their costumes, and Miles has been referred to as “ just black spider man “ since his creation, so why unironically be on the nose with that?
@@Dhampir101980 My other idea was to call Miles Scarlet Spider since no one is using it but it’s kinda too late to try and call him anything other than Spider-man
@@zyairrbissoon kaine still uses the name scarlet spider and he’s getting ready to confront chasm in the next amazing Spider-Man storyline. But you’re right, at this point, everyone knows that Miles is a spider-man, so picking a new name would be admitting defeat
we're running out of adjectives because Peter has been hogging them all
@@nenohuhUltimate *should* be his since it's his legacy from The *real* Ultimate Universe, but it never happened sadly.
I am confused was peter supposed to be going to college for his doctorate only for spiderman cause issues. I get that was dropped by zeb wells.
That was way back in the Nick Spencer era, and yeah, they dropped that as soon as he left.
I expected more from Weissmen. He created one of the most definitive and beloved spider-men. And yet this Peter, he’s an immature man child, again. Oh joy, it’s not like that hasn’t been done to death. Weissmen had a chance to really improve Peter in this on going. To do what he wanted with him instead of just keeping to the disappointing norm. I hated Pete’s dialogue in this (which is a cardinal sin for a character written by Weissmen) and he really came off as the immature friend who you grow really tired of hanging out with after a week. I hope this series improves, but this was not a good start. Will see if it’s actually worth paying money for the rest of the issues.
Greg said that Peter is trying to act like a “ cool” person when he’s hanging out with Miles( and failing at it tremendously). That’s the joke, because Peter has always been a nerd, so it’s a nerd’s idea of what cool is. This is supposed be to the more lighthearted book( at least, for now; the spectacular show had plenty of dark moments as it went on ) But of course, Peter will be serious when it’s absolutely necessary.
@@Dhampir101980 what he was going for is kind of undercut by the portrayal of Peter over the last several years. There’s a reason so many fans hate Spider-Man now, why the new Ultimate Spider-Man is being sold out over and over and over. Because it’s a different portrayal of Pete, a better one. Pete had always been a dork, but you can show that without also making him seem like a loser and a man child as well. I (and fans like me) were hoping this Pete would be much more like Spectacular, and much less like Amazing.
@@matthewterlaga3022 I get that, I do. But I’m not going to cast full judgment based just one issue. Besides, after having Peter being mopey and dour for the last several years, it’s just nice to see him have fun again. This is the problem with having multiple books for a single character, each one is going to portray the character slightly differently( seriously, look at how it affects Batman ). I wouldn’t surprised if the mandate wasn’t to make Peter in this book be different from the peter in ultimate; it’s no accident that these books launched so close to each other. I trust Greg, and he’s good at having fun and serious moments co-exist within his work. Honestly, I hope he’s the who gives Peter a better, more definitive job ( since once the green goblin comes back…) cause he does need more agency in his life, not going argue that.