Best Factory Paint Job Acura NSX? 18mil of Paint!
Today I toured the Acura NSX factory in Marysville Ohio to understand how each NSX is painted and what makes there Andaro paint package a $6000 upgrade over base paint. This is a behind the scenes looks at the build, paint, and assembly process for the 2018 Acura NSX (and soon to be TLX). The Andaro paint package comes with 18m of paint!!!! Which is insane for a production vehicle. Hope you enjoy! -Larry
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Larry the type of guy to show up at a Honda factory wearing a Porsche jacket
Larry the type of guy to give his wife a Doug score after sex. Sorry, wrong channel.
😂😂
carbon fiber torque wrench. Now that's living!
Yeah! I thought I was the only one who noticed. Where does one obtain such a tool?
right? I was like wtf this not snap on
Looks like an ASI DATAMYTE, I think they call them the lightstar or something? They are logging torque wrenches used for quality control
@Brad Calzone what the fuck? can someone give me the timestamp where the carbon fiber torque wrench is?? aaand how much could that really matter on shoulder issues
@@Jabbaz03 11:57
Did Acura supply the production crew as well? This looks better than a segment on TopGear! You're spoiling us. Epic content.
mikeXpapa We shot it with Larry, thanks for the compliment.
@@drivingsports Of course, you guys did an amazing job. Just so enjoyable to watch.
It's very good, but saying it's better than Top Gear UK production is pushing it.
This is the greatest show... in the world.
@@drivingsports lol... iN tHe WoRlD!
For our metric friends, the thickness measurements presented here are in mils (a thousandth of an inch). 10 mils = 0.254 mm
thanks mate, to us metric people a mil is a millimeter
Thanks, I was just going to google it but no need anymore!
mL is mililitre and m is metre, so you can understand my confusion when they say that the car has a paint job of 18m thickness.
thank you! i was so confused because i thought he was saying that the nsx had paint 2/3 of an inch thick
"the thickness measurements presented here are in mils (a thousandth of an inch)" In engineering a thousandth of an inch is a "thou" abbreviated, is it only paint people who say mils to means thous? Sounds confusing to imperial people as well.
History of the uniforms is actually more interesting than just for teamwork. Post WWII many workers didn't have access to clothing that they could wear to work or getting that clothing was a hardship. The solution for just about every Japanese manufacturing company was to provide workers uniforms, provided a benefit to the employee and had the additional benefit of team building. Guess all that money on my MBA finally paid off.
You forgot that the white uniform shows dirt easily, and in the factory that usually mean there is something wrong.
Well its not just clothing its everything from food works almost everything is hard after WWII in Japan
That Valencia Red is one of the most beautiful reds I've ever seen. It's gorgeous! That car is stunning! Bravo Acura! Well done! I want one!
me too. Wish I had the cash. I'd buy one for myself and 2 more for my brothers.
Same, that colo(u)r depth looks insane, I wonder how it looks in daylight
Very similar paint to the Alfa Romeo Rosso Competizione. The rosso comes with a pinkish primer coat, then a base coat, then a tinted clearcoat which contains pearls..
You mean bravo Honda
I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS BUT I HAVE TO SAY THIS IS THE SMARTEST THING YOU'VE DONE SO FAR TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE FACTORY AND GET IT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH JUST TO TAKE YOUR DETAILING SKILL TO THE NEXT LEVEL. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS FOR US CAR ENTHUSIAST.
Daddy, what is a CAPS LOCK key?
We even wear the white uniforms in Alliston, Ontario where we build the Civic and CR-V.
You guys just build the sedan there is that right? I know the hatch is made in the UK
Eric Pettersen you’re right. We build the sedan, coupe, and the SI models of each. Swindon UK is closing so the hatch production location is up in the air for now.
That's sad to hear the Swindon plant is closing. Hope you guys get the extra volume!
Big news! You guys will be building the hatch there now too!!!
Hey that's where my '07 Civic Si Sedan was built! Purchased new off of the showroom floor. Bathed in Fiji Blue Pearl. Car has been wonderful. I love it. Great job!
For the organization on his pass they put "U-TUBE" lol @4:04
You know KZhead is copyrighted , right?
As a production painter and custom paint artist, I'm geeking out over this. Sooooooo cool to see how they paint these beasties, but also really cool for them to share the time and information (.5mil) for detailers. Thanks Larry!
Would have loved to see you give us a walk around of the final product with your penlight.
I was literally there for 2 hours... I was in such a rush. You’re right though
@David Stewart love acura boi :D
AMMO NYC this kind of content out of a 2 hour visit...hell an 8 hour visit, is outstanding. Thanks for the in depth video, Larry.
Yeah seconded, this is approaching Engineering Explained levels of depth. Even went to the whiteboard. Appropriate depth for the depth of the paint. *badumtiss*
I'm shocked that it only costs 150-200K. What an amazing process.
Only lol? Its very overpriced compared to its competitors. The performance isn't THAT good. It's good, but not that good. This should be around 100-120k.
@@Viktor9502 Facts
What a video. I can remember back a few years ago watching your stuff just wishing you had the chance to film something like this! Congrats, Larry!
I would love a "How it's painted" by Larry Kosilla series. That was just too cool!
That paint manager sure is good looking. He really knows about the paint process.
Holy shit is that you
Holy shit is that you in the video
No. Just a huge fan of Acura and Honda products. And an admirer of the paint shop manager 😍
You guys have to SEE this color in person, it’s the most beautiful paint job I’ve ever seen. I saw it in a showroom, my pictures came out nice but it’s NO comparison to real life.
“Fight Apathy” on the board. Short, simple, sound advice.
So Larry, was that included on purpose or was it completely accidental in the framing of the shot?
I appreciate you having "fight apathy" written in the corner of your board. Thanks for the great videos Larry!
Tesla needs to pay attention. Their paint quality is a damn joke.
I have a black model 3. Polished it and touched it with my clean fingers. It got scratched. They would never do such video for even a high end Tesla.
we had a customer come in with a white model 3. There was a noticeable 6-8 inch black hair in the hood and Telsa refused to re paint her hood.
they need to pay attention to the majority of their internal controls for assembly process and their quality control
Yeah that is why my buddy got the black paint and then repainted the car with pearl blue.
@@kazekai8 smart man
Outstanding NSX video. So much great info and I learned a few things I did not know. Thank You for the in depth tour of PMC
There’s an 2017 nsx in my area with the same paint job, it’s so beautiful in person
I always enjoy watching your vids so much . They are indepth, professional and solid from the begining to the end. Excelent job Larry!
It doesn't matter how wonderful the paint is if you ultimately don't have a desirable or in demand product. I used to own an INTEGRA and then ACURA RL. I hope they make more compelling products in the future. My longtime Acura buddy bought a LOADED VW ARTEON recently and he is so happy.
Those numbers actually change after the paint has fully cured. The manufacturer recommends 60 days before applying any sort of wax sealant or PPF to the paint. The Andaro for example after fully cured becomes about 10mm of paint. At 18mm the paint has not cured 100% yet. Hence the example Keith had at the bottom of his white board at the beginning of the video. Nice video!
Dang Larry! You have been killing it with these awesome videos. Keep up the great work.
I am getting an orange NSX end of this year.
Great video! I worked in the Plant for a couple months before moving back to the main Plant. Love every minute. Glad you enjoyed it too!
Insane level of attention to details and the amount of efforts put into minimising margin of error (e.g. variance in thickness) is hard to believe. The NSX deserves its name in every aspect. Thank you for sharing this video, I know which onr I'll take when my numbers come up.
Honda went crazy with the paint! Good to see they went the extra mile. If I had the means of getting a "supercar", I would seriously consider the Honda over the usual fanfare of McLaren's or Ferrari's. That's if I wanted to keep the car for the longterm. Alot of people tend to get these things and sell them in 3-4yrs... Don't see the point.. but to each their own.
Less time than that. I've seen quite a few mclaren and ferrari owners sell before any depreciation hits. Much like a quick rental.
d1sturb3d must be nice to have that sort of cash to throw around. A shame too since if you’re an actual car person, you would want to own something with some history longer than it being the “in” thing to have at the moment. C’est la vie. 🤷🏻♂️
Ford GT has way better paint than this. Its painted by hand not by a robot.
@Lassi Kinnunen they only compare it to the Million dollar hybrids because the system is setup roughly the same. Also, chances are very good this hybrid supercar will outlast any of the million dollar limited editions. Keep in mind, I'm only making this comparison to what they claim. Yes, the probability of a person picking 1 of these up and driving it almost everyday (weather permitting aka countries such as Canada, people will probably store their vehicles) is far higher than anyone picking up a 918, P1 or LaFerrari Reason why the press wasn't all that impressed is mainly because they've been announcing the arrival of the NSX for about 7-8yrs now. So if you keep building something up for that long and you finally get to show it off, you expect it to be the next best thing since sliced bread. Nowadays with these journalists getting access to all these super expensive one offs, if you stick them into a somewhat "normal" vehicle, of course they're going to be jaded. It'll be a vastly different experience if you take someone who doesn't have access to all the manufacturers and then you ask them for an honest review. Bet that person is going to really regret getting back into their own vehicle. Where are you living where you can find 3 really big houses for 260g's?? I went to the website to spec what the NSX would be for Canada. The total came out to $230G's CDN before taxes. So about $250g's CDN. That kind of money barely gets you a down payment for a normalish size house around the GTA... :-( The process of painting doesn't differ. What differs is the amount of paint used. Wouldn't be surprised if the car weighs about 50-70lbs more just due to the added paint you can option out. Hopefully the added protection is enough to keep those pesky rock chips from forming... ;-)
Yeah they like to lease it for a few years and then get a new model every few years when the lease is up.
All that attention to detail...then buddy walks by casually with a big bouncing orange bumper under his arm!!
hahahahaaha yes I saw that too. I think sometimes the manufactures have to stage things a bit and keep everything as professional as possible when someone comes to visit. 😂😂 This also explains why Honda or NSX is never better than Toyota or Lexus
@@popkahchin never better? honda was the first to sell luxury car in north america. in the GT race, honda have the most smallest engine in its class and they always come in 2nd, follow by toyota in 3rd place. nissan being 1st place most of the time.
BlueRice I’m not talking about how fast they race and stuff and also Honda f1 engines are one of the most unreliable. I’m also talking about quality wise. Nothing comes close to Lexus or Toyota when it comes to reliability. My uncles own many Honda sedans and they always have problems and one even more ridiculous.. I remember it was a HONDA JAZZ, my uncle bought it brand new and after 2 days, the surface of the seat came off and I believe it was because of the glue inside was not good. Okay so ,my uncle sent it to Honda repair shop to get it fixed to only find another problem and it is from the speaker..... like come one... nobody got time for endless troubleshooting. None of my relatives have any annoying issues with most Toyota cars even the 20 to 30 years old Toyota Land Cruiser. The shell might look dirty and sometimes rusty but it works like charm. That is the quality I am talking about.
@Nat N yes likely a defect, since it also had circle marks on it. It's more a joke on the way the video was filmed to show the attention to detail, then they let that in. It just doesn't match. Especially how they transitioned between the guy and then talking about the lengths they go to in the same breath. It would have been the same if a worker dropped a tool or slipped on the floor. I don't know why they left that in. Makes it funny though.
i know a guy that works there. theyre not allowed to carry those like that unless it's being sent back to get repainted again or there's something needs to be corrected with it. if you watch closely you'll notice that there's a circle marks on the bumper which means there's something wrong with it and probably on it's way to get repainted again.
Great video, Larry. I'll bet that paint looks stunning, in person. Thanks for sharing. Acura has always been a quality manufacturer, so it's no surprise they could produce quality like this.
Wow this is really special. I love seeing factory tours and have been on a few myself but getting Larry's perspective on such fine details is super educational. I like the new NSX and I think just the amount of care and precision in its factory paint says a lot about Honda.
Thanks Larry, that really CLEARS it up.
Damn, those paints look incredible! Awesome job NSX!
This is outstanding content and top notch quality. I hope your channel blows up because content this good is non existent in the detailing world.
Double thumbs up Larry. Amazing and great video of process. I like how you take it apart and explain what really going on. I saw you put your hands I pocket, make sure you did not touch something. Looks like you had a lot of respect for what they were doing. S
Well done Larry! You seem to keep making these videos better and better.. TV quality for free on KZhead!
Thank you for blessing us with this video, so amazing to see technical stuff like this. On another note, and probably not as thick or durable, but I'd be interested to see how this red looks next to a soul red crystal metallic 2018 CX-5, as that is still the best looking red I've ever laid eyes on. The new mazda red also has a tinted clear.
I just purchased a TLX PMC Edition and the paint is absolutely beautiful!
What an amazing tour and walkthrough of the NSX factory.. very informational too.
This is a very good episode. Thank you for making this and uploading it.
It's crazy how all that can be done at a mere 3% of the vehicle cost at a factory with robots and such an insane QC! I was quoted a $3500 for just repainting my MDX in a regular paint booth manually...
Amazing look into the process. As someone who had been in the collision repair industry for 20+ years, as well as custom painting facilities, it is amazing to see the process and detail that they take to produce what is definitely a "Show car" finish. Thanks for the video!
ohhh mann... the amount of deadication and learning attitude you show for your work is incredible.😮😮
It's simple: when daddy Larry posts a new video I frantically smash that like button
Most amazing AMMO video by far....!
I’m so glad I found your channel. You provide all the answers to my ocd questions I ask myself when detailing my Audi S3. Thanks Larry!
That was a exceptional overview Presentation of the different grades of paint and the main reason why motor companies charge extra for premium paint jobs and the process of what companies have to do to getting an outstanding paint finish. Many thanks, one of the best I have seen in a long time
Can't talk, busy spray painting my Civic hatch in the driveway.
LMAO!!
So good I'm watching 2x. That paint is so great I'd actually consider an nsx over a zr1 or c4s.
You say that as if the other two vehicles were superior options lol
@@fakename287 Exactly! As if the paint is the only factor that is over the corvettes......OMG
Love the video. Crazy that NSX team let you in on the process. Very informational. It's awesome to see that there is so much attention going into this.
this is exactly the type of content i wanted to find on youtube. thank you.
I just learned about Andrew Jackson Beard. I love seeing brothers in the automotive industry! Another great video as always.
I'm ahead detail at a Acura dealership and I've only seen 6 at those paint jobs. And they all needed 0 work dun.
Great video Larry. Very interesting as a budding detailer, but also from an Engineering aspect. It begs the question: If a Z4 has 9Kg of paint (Megafactories), how much does all that paint weigh on the Andaro finished cars?
I was hoping for one shot in the sunlight, it really brings these colors to life.
Paused the video to say just how amazing this is! Thanks.
This video has me pricing NSX's now...Thanks Larry XD
Lots of used ones are a steal
How would it cost to get this paint job at Los Santos Customs?
Thank you! I have a 2017 Valencia Red Pearl NSX so this was wonderful to watch and learn from.
13:57 That paint is Almost OEM like Goonzquad !! Lol
WOW 😮... wonder if all that extra paint will affect PDR... Great Stuff! Thanks 🙏
i had to look up pdr but that's a dang good question
Paintless Dent Repair for anyone else who might be wondering. 😁
Wow. That deep red is amazing and the andaro paint job is excellent.
I was a production painter for over 10 years before that an industral painter. This brings back a lot of memories
Wow that is insane 🤯. Did they tell you how much more paints was added ?. as I'm intrigued to see if the car actually weighs more as well. and if so how much more are we talking about 🤔🤔😂. I know its ramdom sorry about that 😂🤣😂
Imagine dropping a panel, i'd just run out away screaming
Nope. Hara Kiri.
That was an awesome in depth look behind the scenes! Great content!
I want that Andaro Red NSX sooo Bad !!! What a stunningly beautiful car ! Thanks for this amazing video Larry !
My local Audi charges 12k as an option for the various unique colours like Daytona Grey and Nardo Grey. I wished the amount of clear i get is doubled as well...
What do you want for $12,000?
I thought Nardo on some Audi's come free of charge
Should only cost $3,999 for an exclusive color. And neither of those grays are exclusive. Find an honest dealer.
@@zhaoyangxie it's an exclusive colour, so it's free on the S and RS models only, options for A and Q models
@@SturmAndDrang well buddy, in Singapore, things are crazy. An S Line upgrade for the A4 costs roughly 12k, and it still only comes with standard 16inch wheels(what a joke). S line is not even standard on the Quattro models.
6:02 How do You go to a Honda plan wearing a Jacket with Porsche on the back !? 🤦🏻♂️😂
:-)
I was scrolling thru my recommended and saw this. I just had to see this because the Acura nsx is my absolute dream car.
Awesome. Thanks for the tour. That paint looks amazing.
Nsx looks so much cooler irl damn this car got shafted
Nah, drive one. It got exactly what it deserves.
@@stevenkelby2169 I did drove one in Las Vegas, I wouldn't pay 200k for it but the used car market now (110k-130K) makes it a bargain.
@@apt62 Maybe. I drove one and it's impressive sure, but for me, there are more exciting cars from Porsche, McLaren etc. I can see how it appeals to some people though.
At 4:13.... I think I recogize that towel.
Gregory Veizades if you’re thinking what I’m thinking, you’re correct. 😉
Like the looks of this car & amazing quality of care to its build. Read that this car was planned to be built several years but they scrapped that idea & redesigned it again with much more technology. Good video!
I've seen that Valencia Red in person and it's soooooo vivid !! It's like Mazda's Soul Red taken up 12 notches !! This vid isn't doing it justice !
It's a very similar process. Soul Red is also base, tinted clear and clear. The difference is this NSX colour is getting a thicker layer of the tinted clear and an additional layer of clear. That adds a lot of depth.
So I wonder how to make sure you get this great quality after an accident and it needs to be painted?
You don't. That's why resale value goes down if a car like this has been in an accident.
Just thought I'd ask; At 5:54 you say that dust protection is paramount, but there is no hair protection, is stuff like dandruff and other head waste not important?
yeah I noticed. At 6k upgrade, I expect all the painters to be bald!
I mainly mean that they should have baker-styled plastic hair nets, or some such.@@GoofieNewfie
I was totally joking.
I enjoyed this video... Seeing the production line and the paint shop for the NSX... Very cool 👍
This is so sick! Thank you for sharing Larry!!
Watching this car be hand built, it suddenly seems a bit of a bargain! This is the same price as a 911 GTS.....this is definitely more car.
yeah except you could buy a dodge hellcat and even fix it the first couple times it breaks for that money :D oh and shit on the nsx any day
@@GOLD_FEVER someone on KZhead already did drag racing videos and track videos showing that the NSX is actually faster than the hellcat
Can anyone answer this - When you specify paint thickness with "mil" - What is the exact measurement used there? 18mil can not be 18 millimeters, thats like 2/3 of an inch.
Doggepp It’s microns. The general thickness of a paint job is a little more than that of a piece of paper.
@BootyBOT Well, why dont they say microns instead then?
@BootyBOT Well, that still doesnt make sense. When you guys mean pounds, you say pounds. You dont say kilograms. Why say "mil" when you mean microns? No one here in europe uses the short "mil" for anything else than milimeters.
It’s a traditional U.S. measurement of 0.001”. Pickup a micrometer and treat yourself to the base10 number system.
nglettiere yes, and more specifically, the U.S. standard measure of length & thickness within the manufacturing industry. Ex: a 4 inch diameter auto piston is expressed as 4.000 inches +- 0.002 inches. Any piston manufactured must be between 3.998 inches and 4.002 inches to be acceptable. In spoken language this is a 4” diameter piston plus or minus 2 mils tolerance.
So awesome you got to visit their factory!
Crazy good insight. This is awesome. Good work Larry.
Do you know why the paint prep techs are not wearing hair nets?
Imagine paying 6k for a paintjob and finding a blonde's hair in there that they missed on inspection lmao.
@@bryaneekelder8267 it'll get handled when you're paying an arm and a leg price like this it's rushed out quick
so the Andarro paint job is "7 mil." Does that mean 7 millimeters? as in 7/10ths of a centimeter? that seems too thick. I guess my question is: what do you mean when you say "mil?"
1 'mil' is one one thousandth of an inch
Good question. Because 19 mm is almost 3/4 of an inch, or the thickness of plywood lol I was thinking that was way off
Mil is not metric, so not a millimeter. It is a measurement of an inch. In the U.S. the thickness of paint is expressed in mils. One mil equals 1/1000 of inch. The rest of the world expresses coating thickness in microns. 1 micron = 1 millionth of a meter and 25.4 microns = .001” inch or 1 mil. So for example, you should not remove more than .5mils of clear, which would equal 12.7 microns.
In metric a mil is a mm, in imperial a mil is a thou, what a head fuck lol, but I guess it make sense. As in a milli-inch I guess???
Please reupload at 4K, that paint job is amazing!
Larry does such a great job with these videos. Really cool stuff!
Da hell? Is it just me or is there orange peel on the quarter panel by the rear windshield? Look at the lights reflection there @1:56. I know ive seen smoother finishes
100% I've been looking to see if anyone would time stamp it because I seen it too
So you're saying is when I buy an NSX I should get the standard paint for extra weight savings!
I’ll keep an eye out for those TLX and RLX with this amazing paint
That TLX is something out of this world.
Advice on keeping a black car clean After I wash/wax, go for a drive, stop for gas, and see all dust/pollen everywhere, I hate it!!! Help
Paint it white.
Now go to a GM plant and see how they do it and watch how much it sucks!
Tesla*
@@dlozza2000 teslas gotta be the worst. Incredibly bad paint jobs
@@dlozza2000 LOL you don't even own a Tesla stfu
Love this channel. Production value is equal to anything on cable about cars. Plus unlike tv, no dumb irrelevant commentary, just good stuff. Keep it up man. I can tell even thru video how nice that paint is, too. The NSX is a nice car imo.
Enjoyed this video. I work at Acura and we see these cars all day long. I did some paint matching on Valencia red pearl and the process we have to follow is the same.
Why is there so much Orange peel in the paint at 1:57?
The paint on the red car (1.55 AND 15.50) was a long way from perfection - endless light ripples to my eye - NOT the reflection of the lights! Definitely NOT truly flat or mirror-like!
Agreed. The technology behind this is great, colour depth too, but for 6k the finish is very poor.
@@TheGravyMonster - the fact that you would have to pay for paint correction at about a grand to get a genuinely quality finish is appalling! It would be quite superb if they included that in the price, or perhaps even offered it at a cost option but as it was, I would feel like I'd been ripped off!
This was friggin amazing. Larry, you're a stud.
Loved seeing the dedication and process at Honda
As a detailer you shouldn't be in a Honda factory with Porsche jacket. Just saying,,,,as a detailer. Hahahahahahahh