How Heroin Smuggling Actually Works | How Crime Works | Insider
David McMillan is a British Australian former drug smuggler. He was arrested several times between the early ’80s and 2012 for trafficking heroin through Southeast and Central Asia. He estimates he trafficked over $17 million worth of heroin internationally.
McMillan speaks to Insider about the process of heroin trafficking and smuggling routes leading to the US and Europe. Since leaving the heroin-smuggling trade, McMillan works as a public speaker. He is the author of “Escape” (2007) and “Unforgiving Destiny” (2017).
Find his books here: www.davidmcmillan.net
Chapter 1: The Suppliers 00:00 - 00:33
Chapter 2: The Farming and Processing 02:01 - 04:46
Chapter 3: The Packaging 04:47 - 06:32
Chapter 4: The Airports 06:33 - 09:40
Chapter 5: The Aftermath 09:41- 12:11
Chapter 6: The Cargo 12:12 - 13:32
Chapter 7: The Market 13:33 - 16:30
Chapter 8: The Solutions 16:31 - 20:30
Chapter 9: The Backstory 20:32 - 22:23
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How Heroin Smuggling Actually Works | How Crime Works | Insider
My man told us the trade of Heroin like it's a Charles Dickens novel. I actually went to sleep with this. Epic stuff.
Voice like the drug he trafficked haha
This guy's so good at talking about heroin you can catch a nod just listening to him talk about it!
Just about to stick two fentenl lollipops in my ears
Haha, snap. A wonderful reading voice. Like watching a lava lamp. Hypnotic. Sent me straight off
Right!!! Lol
This man is the David Attenborough of crime.
:) Minus a knighthood.
God dammit...was about to say that
@@A0A4ful Never say never... Wouldn't be the worst person to get a knighthood haha.
@@karateman302 Great minds.
Nah ..he's just a scumbag who moved smack from A to B ,nothing special or impressive about him
Never have I seen such an articulate and intelligent man from the drug underworld. The tone of his voice, his wording, and his overall aura make this interview an unforgettable one. Plus, I've learned a lot about a world I'm not familiar with.
Well said!
He's a drug lord not a street peddler.
It's okay, you don't know anything
@@bathcat2686 Is it a crime that I don't know anything about the drug trade? I'm not a pothead and don't have to be.
The real treasure is the friendships we made along the way.
I'm a former heroin user and I also went to college to become an Addictions Counsellor and I can say that the vast majority of what this person said in this interview is quite accurate. This is in my opinion one of the better interviews relating to drug manufacture, smuggling and the legalities too. Well done!
There was one study in the U.K. where doctors were allowed to prescribe heroin users actual heroin, whilst they received counselling and guidance to reduce their usage. A way higher proportion successfully quit than those undergoing methadone therapy. The government completely ignored the results and never repeated the experiment. EDIT: They have done another smaller scale study, but yet again, they ignored it.
Given how some doctors became dealers in lab coats with opioids I'm not surprised. You only need one to screw up the system.
And why is that you think. The gov is the new dealer and they and the pharmaceutical industry dont make any profit on people getting clean. So when an addict goes from Heroin for an example to Methadone they only exchange there dealer and thats a fact. Thank you for what you wrote it shows what the system is about.
@@Tt-vw8of Methadone does work in a lot of case. It worked for me. But it seems I'm one of very few. That's not really the fault of methadone that's just opiate addiction being near impossible to really get passed.
@@Tt-vw8of If all the addicts got clean there’d also be no low hanging fruit to fill prisons with and keep everyone in the system in jobs with easy possession based cases.
@@Jonathan_Doe_ 🎯🎯🎯
I could listen to this guy talk for hours.
There is over 24 hours of interviews with him on the shaun atwood podcast
Same
Adding that the book he mentions is on audible. It's called Unforgiving Destiny: The Relentless Pursuit of a Black-Marketeer and he is the narrator!
You can. His interviews with Shaun Attwood are some of the best I've ever heard. Do yourself a favour. He escaped from the Bangkok Hilton.
You could adopt him
I really like how he didn't glorify his old life. He gave a real account that may help others make better decisions. Especially more youthful ears. He's as real as they get.
Amazing he has traveled the world dealing in illegal drugs and lived to tell about it.
He is an actor dude. He did no such thing.
@@Narutofan825how do u know?..he literally wrote a book
@@18aplateindoors to make money probably
i knew that this dumbass comment would be here
@@18aplateindoors lmao, Wikipedia has a few interesting bits on him. “Only westerner to escape Bangkok’s Klong Prem prison,” being one of them
Someone in need of a narrator should hire this man. His voice is very pleasant to listen to and he tells a story in a way that keeps you engaged with the content.
It’s because he’s bri’ish
And he's also extremely familiar with the topic in question
I have a hunch that he's being interviewed for free and that he doesn't need the money for doing anything else, including lecturing. I can only guess where he has his money stashed away....who knows, eh?
@@stevegoldstein3402 he’s from Melbourne, Australia. He did have a job as a child newsreader for a while. Kind and intelligent young teenager.
It’s an Australian Public School accent .
Never in a million years would I say this guy was a trafficker. That’s how i know he definitely was
The best drug smugglers are so inconspicuous it unbelievable. The ones who aren't get caught.
Oh I would. It's all in the eyes. Anyone who's touched H has it in their eyes.
@@mCblue79 no… No you wouldn’t and don’t…
@@mkseed9188 idk why but the truthfulness and simplicity cracked me up 😅😂
@@mCblue79 so Right. It’s like this in any foreign town or country u can find it, bcs u recognize the users easily ( and I am not talking about homeless hardcore junks )
I'm Australian and 25 years deep. This man is 100% accurate on everything he said. Also, he's talking about the Fairlea Prison fire of 1982.
Better have your own vpn😂
Okay Mr. full name username Your voice says you're not halfway to 25 years old, let alone deep
@@ComFurt 25 year habit.
@@dumbasses_R_us Sure bud :^) dope doesn't make you sound prepubescent
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My closest friend of 40+ years relapsed after being clean for a very long time. 2 hits off a fent laced joint and he hit the ground. He was left in the house alone for 2 hours before anyone called 911. By that time it was too late. His birthday was yesterday and I'm still pissed at the world over it.
is he dead, or addicted?
aslo that's why you dont do weed
@@vtuberterrifier484 Read it again, mate. He's dead.
@@vtuberterrifier484 He died of fentanyl, not weed. In a legal market, this wouldn't have happened
@@vtuberterrifier484shut up kiddo
That was riveting. He was a good speaker and the editing kept things flowing.
your socially engineered to like this gargantuan trash pile
Have you thought about how many people died from opiate overdoses at his hands?
@@ems4884 like I said this empty brian has been breed to like this
@@ems4884 obviously he did bad things he never said he didn't. But if you look at the larger picture, he is no worse than any world power leader killing millions at whim.
@@ems4884its their fault not this guys. Someone else would have smuggled that heroin if not him. Also, he didnt force anyone to buy his drug
I love when he said the reward is never enough , it’s so true even if you don’t get caught by the authorities you are constantly looking over your shoulder because of what you know . You can never really enjoy the profits of your labor
doing something bad and getting away with it, that's pure adrenaline. You must for sure just be talking from assumption. add to the fact you make money ... yeah right. youre a keyboard smuggler
I hear guys in the gym talking about ridiculous things. .. they ain't as paranoid as you may think
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The thought "Am I already caught and they're just piling up the evidence?" Is enough to ruin a perfectly normal day. Lol!
-Better to live like a king for 5 years than a lifetime as a peasant- Some kingpin
The TRUTH is freeing. This man is a gold mine of information. And he takes full responsibility for his actions. No victim mentality. No blaming of others. Just full accountability. Beautiful honesty. A rare find.
& that's a fact
No remorse either.
Heroin and depression is another deadly combo
depression alone can be deadly enough
Can confirm
It's only when the user has no way of getting the next dose, that it is deadly. Depression is not very hard to deal with when a person is feeling the effects of the drug. (edit: I should also note, that this is a further reason why I think it should be legalized & regulated)
@@Inertia888 Yep, I rather be really depressed, than really addicted to any opiate because then the idea of quitting is a whole bigger thing to worry about crawling out of.
Heroin/ opiates are actually good for depression. David talks about this in a different interview with Shaun Atwood and in my experience it’s true. Until as someone above noted, you run out. Then it’s not great
With his accent, this ol' geezer could read a shopping list and I'd be interested! What an incredible, albeit tragic, life this gentleman has lived. A truly remarkable man to be as self-aware as he is to make it out alive and come full circle. I can't wait to get ahold of some of his books... though I'll just expect the covers to be cardboard/paper!
Maybe the hardcover edition has some freebies hidden in the covers 😄
He actually grew up in Australia. His book is very facilitating.
His accent is actually a refined/educated Australian one that has much in common with proper British. It’s not as common as the general accent, though hardly anyone here speaks with the ridiculous stereotypical “Aussie” (ocker) accent which is pushed abroad as supposedly authentic.
@@anhedonianepiphany5588 are you telling me 'neighbours' Alf was putting it on!?
@@halfpint7301 I mean, the man had a rape dungeon so I'm not surprised to hear he was faking it. Alf weas Home and Away though, I think? (I mean... obviously there's a huge difference between the two shows; chalk and cheese!)
I’ve been clean off Heroin since 2014 thank god I was able to find support to quit!! I remember the first time I tried it was like all my troubles melted away but eventually I learned about the withdrawals and it was awful 😞 the worst most painful experience!!
withdrawals from heroin/fentanyl are brutal. literally feels like you’re dying and knowing theirs nothing you can do about it other than getting high again makes it 10x worse on top. i wouldn’t wish withdrawals in my worst enemy
@@ShoutoutFentanyl i failed the first time I tried to quit cold turkey and the 2nd time same way then the 3 rd time I signed up for detox and used suboxone for 10 days to help with the worst part of withdrawals but not for the long term because getting off subs is also really hard
How many days did withdrawals last?
yawn
No worse than influenza boohoo
What an intelligent man, his eloquent style of delivering his address was like witnessing a university class being schooled by its professor. His prescience was in itself captivating and addictive, and his obvious firsthand knowledge of the drug trade guaranteed what you heard was the truth. Amazing.
He speaks like a con man or politician, but I repeat myself. This tells you a lot about many University Professors today. Peddlers of pretty lies.
The power of speech can be abused and misused
It is the first time I actually found a simple, extensive, well explained, well articulated story of heroin. It is a gem!
This was a really well put together video. I really enjoyed listening to David speak about his loved experiences. Some of these videos feel kind of clinical but this felt really engaging like having a chat with your grandpa
Your grandpa who used to be a high-level drug smuggler lol.
When he said that the price was time something kicked in my brains : when you spend decades of hard work and sacrifices to get let's say 10K aside in certain poor countries (or even in the US tbh), it is not surprising that some people decide it is worth it to risk that same amount of time for rewards that can be 10 times the money. So really, if people want to fight drugs, they should invest in improving people's lives, help developping countries and help people suffering in developped ones so both offer and demand crumbles and people find more honest lifetime invesment.
Well yeah, the whole reason drugs were outlawed and they throw people in jail is for power, it has nothing do with the people, they actually knew this before starting 'the war on drugs'
If you REALLY want to 'fight drugs,' you have to supply drugs. What I mean by that is: The government needs to provide heroin instead of methadone/ Subutex for recovering addicts. Doing so will destroy the illegal heroin trade, as well as cause the number of new addicts to plummet. Those who are registered as addicts will eventually be the only ones able to get heroin and as they recover/ die, the number of addicts continually decreases. Unfortunately, this works for heroin, as a powerfully addictive drug, but will not work for drugs like amphetamines or even pot. To destroy the illegal drug trade in pot and amphetamines, you'd need to sell those out of dispensaries, the same way many areas are now doing with pot. Doing so destroys the profitability of selling drugs (as a dealer) and makes it simply not worth the risk. That's the ONLY way to "win" this so called war on drugs.
@@smileyp4535 Exactly, most of the drugs that are banned used to prescribed or was made in a lab for human testing like LSD.
Don't tell the u.s that. They are too busy raping and pillaging those villagers in it's war on drugs. Absolute disgrace that we still fight drugs like it's 1922
Everyone says this. Ive never seen a community where govt handouts stoooed the drug trade. Otherwise, i dont know what you mean by "imoriving peoples lives"
Fascinating, just scratching the surface of this man's experience. I am no fan of the class a world, and have resuscitated many overdoses, many unsuccessfully. This is a voice of authority though on this subject matter, and deserves a calm ear.
As a heroin addict, I knew most of the things he said.. Only the part where heroin comes from and what mostly the manufacturers put in.. The other things i already knew.. But yet again,very good content.. Loved it!
The most impressive thing to me is he is the only foreigner to ever escape from Bangkok prison , I live in thailand and can assure you that that would have taken a brave man to do something like that!
If you were a captain in the Bangkok Hilton, would you refuse USD$25K to turn around for a smuggler. I don't think so. Plus, some of your dope will be waiting for you at whatever border you cross.
True. I recently watched a few vids of the world's worst prisons, and I wouldn't want to spend a minute in any of them, Thailand and Madagascar included!
You gotta bounce from Bangkok...
@@GladysAlicea Madagascar took the cake!
He was probably also the only millionaire in that prison. According to Wikipedia "McMillan, due to his financial status lived more comfortably than the average inmate while in prison. McMillan had his own chef and servants, dined on food bought from the supermarket, and also had his own office, television and radio."
The honesty and lucidity of this man... wow
Wow, this was very profound. Shoutout to David for sharing his story
He's so calm, I love listening to him!
'Congratulations to drugs, for winning the war on drugs' is a common and true phrase used by Vice media, only because it is 100% true. My experience with heroin and my wait for substitution prescription of subutex (another drug offered for heroin treatment along with methadone) i waited 2 YEARS (not 2 weeks like he said) and 2 overdoses later, i was STILL told, in a roundabout way to avoid the dr's getting in trouble legally, 'if i wanted on this program, you will need to continue testing positive for heroin' AKA you gotta stay on heroin to get on this program to get you off it. We call it 'chemical handcuffs' as you are chained to this cycle now, you MUST go to the chemist/drug store each day before you get sick from the drug they prescribed, you must go to a window away from the common folk, why? well because your a dirty drug junkie (how dare you stand with the normal people like a normal person) and do that everyday, being de-humanized and stigmatized, and if you miss 2 days, your off the program and your only option at that moment? - heroin, which you haven't used in weeks/months/years meaning your tolerance is non-existent and your more likely to Overdose. Yea theres treatment, but is it any different from going to a dealer? yes and no, for only one reason: its legal the way you do it now. if your dealer of heroin was behind that legal door with a degree in medicine, what honestly would be the difference? no contaminants, safe purity, safe equipment and safety information. just like we have with the legal drugs like alcohol and caffeine
Sorry dude but I’ve experienced a totally different yet far more positive normal interaction with subs…. I hope life has been better for u
Holy crap. I'm in Oregon, USA and when I was trying to get off H I couldn't find a doctor to prescribe me suboxone so I opted to get on methadone, which in retrospect worked out better for me than I think suboxone would have. Fortunately I didn't have to wait more than a couple days to get on it. I couldn't imagine waiting 2 years. Did you get on subs and get clean off H? I've got about 4yrs clean now.
@@xenostim my friend also preferred meth (as in methadone, obviously) over subutex, i think it really helped massively with his leg pain too, from a car accident. Yea i have been off for atleast 6-8+ years now, so long ive stopped counting, i had some moments where i did use and relapse on a handful of occasions but never more than a day and felt shame about it after. so its been out of my life for a while now, i dont think it ever fully will be either tho as it was for so many years (ill be asking for it on my deathbed tho lol) i say to people, that dont understand, that i talk to my annoying drug-craving monkey on my back and say 'not today, maybe a few more years and i will listen maybe' if a craving hits, so that im not taking it and wont be for years and years again but also not giving myself the unpractical standard of never touching the stuff again as an addict. like i said, i do want it on my deathbed again as it is also an incredible feeling that nothing sexual even comes close to in my opinion and im adventurous ill just say so TL:dr i lie to myself that ill never do it again and 7-8 plus clean from H years on, id say its been working pretty well for me
On and on and on and on. What's your poison buddy? Adderall (meth)? Or Vyvanse (cocaine)?
@@fellzer well considering neither of the brands you mentioned contain what drugs you claim they do and that i don't even live in the country that prescribes them n i know that, says alot about how much actual education you've had on them (little to none). Also, a Long Articulated point = must be on speed or meth! not just a person that's passionate and trained about a subject that effects everyone in life in ways they dont even realize. As for adderall or vyvanse....neither? In the US, where i dont live, adderall is a prescribed mix of amphetamine salts, so its not 'meth'amphetamine (that would be 'desoxyn'). it is amphetamine and dextroamphetamine mix. Whilst Vyvanse is also an amphetamine called lisdexamfetamine, so dunno where you got cocaine from at all? Either way, we don't get prescribed amphetamines as much as the US where im from.
The way in which some people sorta fall into the drug game is wild ! I personally was raised in a great home w/a amazing family and I ended up selling drugs , was arrested for trafficking & distribution 2xs and nobody ever believes me when I tell them that bc i don’t “look” like i would be that way. I promise there’s nothing glamorous about that life ! You either end up dead or in prison if you stay living that way. I thank God everyday I was able to get out and change my life !
There's a "gangster mentality" amongst the youth in my area that makes the dealers think they're some kind of big-shot. They're literally addicted to slinging dope. Every one of them gets busted and goes right back to dealing. Pretty stupid.
I ended up being a programmer and thinking about to go back, I'm not kidding. the only thing that stops me is aging and that I must shoulder responsibility in order to have a family.
So much poverty and suffering in the world. Make live worth living for people, opportunity , hope, support networks, enough food and shelter and people won't feel the need to "escape"! That said, some will always want to dabble... i guess, it's ok for a holiday, but i wouldn't want to live there.
@@fabulamcafee If you’re already a software engineer you should be making more than a drug dealer. If not it seems you have the drive to start your own business. You’re an engineer you can make literally anything you can imagine, why would you go back?
@@mrbanana6464 im a junior and could easily work for 25ooo - 38ooo euro but 40ooo - 45ooo is my first goal i try catching to enter | i also look for opportunities to get two or more remote jobs at the same time | i just did the years of certification paper to prepare caring for a family, was like prison and working feel like it too | now here in germany i would be able to life on low with named side income and use the few years of young life i have left to follow my childdream and develope my gameplay ideas and arts | currently its a crisis here and i can be a wage slave later too - the things i do, might look good on portfolio and im into opensource projects on github | in my believe i would be able to buffer the fall of my risky attempt and glide to a normal carrier with constant looking for better job offers later on | thats why im thinking to go back - whats your view on it, am i psyched (; ? edit: with this income, i think im not able to buy a house, cars, insurance and shoulder what else
I could remember several years ago heroin addiction nearly destroyed my life, I suffered from severe depression, illicit pills, and mental disorder until I was recommended to psilocybin mushroom treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly I'm 8 years clean now. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in New Zealand. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I had the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on Instagram?
Very interesting story and very well told! Great job, Insider!
I could listen to david's voice anytime. He has so well spoken and is easy to listen too.
It must be surreal to be able to talk about this and not having to worry about getting killed...
Hes been out the game since 2004... 18 years. The people who knew him are either long gone or in jail or too successful to care.
only in USA people always think to kill each others for any possible reasons all the time Relax bro !
@@PolishBehemoth Plus, he's not giving out any information that'd get specific people in trouble. No one's got any incentive to hurt him.
@@patheddles4004 that too
i would absolutely love if this bloke did audiobooks.. his storytelling skills are phenomenal
This guy is AMAZING!!! Is a true stand up, exceptional human being that blames no one but himself and his actions that led him to be a smuggler. Genius plan, also regarding drug legalization and regulation. Truly goes in deeply on these topics and explain so much more in depth than I have heard from truly anyone....top notch interview guys!!!
Well done you must be one of the first person on a documentary like this that actually knows what your talking about because I am currently on a methadone treatment and now I know that it's actually harder to get off than the heroin it's self
It is hard but the secret is to come off very slowly reducing a few ml a month.
Have you heard of Belbuca? It’s a newer medication that’s pretty expensive but it works really well! In fact, it has multiple uses. I take it for pain treatment but it can also be used to reduce or even eliminate withdrawal symptoms entirely. I can completely stop taking my other pain medications and strictly take the Belbuca without having any withdrawal effects. It’s a great medication.
Ditto m8 I've not used in nearly 10 years but I am still on a methadone script for over 10 years!
This gentleman is 100% right about everything that he said. As a former heroin addict and the experiences I have gone through he hit the nail on the head. Great interview
Sell a $10 bag on a street corner and you're a low-life scumbag dealing in death. Traffic millions of $$ worth of smack around the world and you're a "gentleman"! It's a funny old world!
Junkie
@@tanthaman Why even make that comment? Does that make you feel better?
@@tomking7080 junkie
@@tanthaman Wanker
Absolute classic story. Awesome guy. So articulate and realistic.
Thanks, these tips really helped me and my friends with exports!
Totally agree that the only sane way forward is to legalise drug's because clearly the war on drug's has been a massive multi trillion dollar failure on all levels and it is the reason why the black market keeps booming.
Decriminalize. Do not legalize. Decriminalization allows you to arrest the dealers while not punishing the addicts
@@fish_citizen Legalisation is better. Decriminalisation means that a black market still exists and stuff. Dealers shouldn’t be arrested.
@@fish_citizen Any situation where drugs are not regulated or subjected to quality control and high standards of purity will be a nightmare scenario 100% of the time. Decriminalization does almost nothing. Addicts and users don't even get jail time these days. The problem is the purity of street drugs and the lack of access to safer alternatives, for example; regulating amphetamine sulfate to decrease the meth market or regulating morphine or oxycodone to decrease heroin or even just regulate heroin to wipe out fentanyl. One of the main problems is the lack of options people have when it comes to substances so they have to use the same substances over and over again for different purposes thus creating tolerance and dependence.
@@hmalik5232 Lol exactly. I don't understand how people can even pretend like "drug dealing" is an inherently or even typically immoral act when these same critics don't seem to have any problem or beef with the countless liquor and tobacco vendors on every major street that has businesses. Do people really think street drugs are automatically more dangerous just in principle? This is like in the same league of irrationality as climate change deniers or flat-earthers, very *very* anti-science which is usually reserved for hardcore partisans or religious zealots, not average relatively cognizant people. I just can't even comprehend how someone can draw such conclusions about legality equating safety in the first place when the sheer amount of evidence against that is overwhelming. Medically speaking, alcohol and tobacco aren't even moderate in their 'hardcorness' and dangers, they're full-fledged hard drugs. Even things like ketamine are nowhere near as dangerous as alcohol and ket isn't exactly harmless.
@@Ryan88881 I agree
Finally a good tutorial
FR fr😅😅
Nah seriously 💀
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He operated before the post 9/11 area. You could see your family/friends depart from your departing gate. It is a different ballgame, so tactics also change.
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This man eloquently reveals that drug smugglers do not necessarily look menacing or talk tough and tough. Your local smuggler could be a neighbor, friend, or a relative. Clearly, smugglers can be intelligent and softspoken. He shows us that given certain incentives, almost anyone could get entangled in smuggling. Greed can take hold. And poverty and despiration can be an incentive. Grateful to him for sharing his story. It's educational, and would never be taught in schools. May he continue on his journey with grace and peace.
This is an amazing video. I could listen to him for hours
This man is so amazing. So eloquent and well spoken.
A guy who sold drugs that certainly 100% without doubt killed hundreds if not thousands of people. Yea real amazing 🙄 🤦♂️
Amazing ? He is a drug smuggler , a criminal , many people died because of him .. nothing amazing
I read this guy's book years ago, fascinating life story. The death of his wife in the prison fire was horrendous, she did not in any way deserve to be there. Shame on the authorities for putting her there just to try to get at him.
He chose the life, he knew what he was doing and the risks he was taking and subjecting his wife to. Do the crime, do the time. I'm not being callous, I've been there, took my licks and done my bird. We all have no-one to blame but ourselves for the consequences of our own considered actions.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 doing time in jail isn't the same as your wife burning to death when she herself didn't break the law. She was on remand for charges that would've never held up, and the prosecution probably never intended on following through with. He did the crime and needed to handle doing the time, not the same for her.
Of course he bears some responsibility for her outcome, but the state does more. She never dealt or smuggled drugs and barely lived off his gains.
@@m.a.b.4104 I don't know where you get the notion that his drug-smuggling wife and partner in crime "didn't break the law". While it may well be the case that the crime she was accused of and incarcerated for was a stitch-up job, that's one of the risks one faces in a life of crime. It's all very tragic but you can get taken down by good cops or bad cops. But you're a heroin smuggler, who you gonna complain to? Go on KZhead I guess and speak articulately about your monstrous crimes, I guess...
@@m.a.b.4104 Oh there's enough blame to go round, so don't forget to apportion the wife her share. Unless you're going to assert that she wasn't complicit because she was entirely ignorant of her husband's career?
This might the most fascinating interview on drugs I've ever seen.
This interview is amazing!
I’m struggling with heroin addiction and this dude impressed me with the game he has
Good luck man. However, I wonder where in the world you are, that you still think you are doing actual Heroin. I only bring this up, because a lot of these fentanyl derivatives that are marketed as Heroin, Oxycodone, etc, are even harder to get off than actual H. Suboxone or Methadone is pretty much the end of addiction for 90% of addicts, other than death or jail. And I've been stuck on suboxone for 2 years now...yeah I'm not shooting up pills or dope anymore, but I'm still relying on something to wake me up and feel normal. It all sucks, and I wish you luck. I was so lucky to get out RIGHT before Fent took over. Never ODed in 15 years of IV use. I literally got out as soon as my H started looking and feeling weird. I had NO idea how bad it was about to get.
@@knado8135 likewise my man,I'm from Sierra de Culiacan Sinaloa Mexico where farmers & traffickers dominate the land they lay down the laws here and the use of Fentanyl is illegal amongst the locals. there are hundreds of Lab's here but the ones that produce synthetic heroin is only for export The Cartel don't want any zombies here they kill you if you get caught.
I hope you can overcome the addiction. It's said many people with addiction resort to it to deal with emotions. Is that your reason or you just enjoy it?
@@knado8135in the UK you can be sure when you no. 3 brown. The chemical reaction when you cook it up shows you somewhat reliably as the Insoluable alkaline h floats to the top of the spoon then becomes soluble when heated. Do you have personal experience? Because if you do, like this man said, you can tel by the texture, smell(vinegar), colour, feeling, etc Many countries now have mixes but even those experienced users have a feel for it. Fent is clearly different. It takes an ignorant user to think fent is h. Line he said they can be mixed, however. Even then you can usually tell. People who have never even tried it once often have strong opinions or think they know because they have watched some documentaries, but until you've lived it, you really know little or nothing. Some of the people who parrot the biggest falsehoods actually are the ones who patch together a narrative they found from watching things online. But with no applied knowledge are almost as wrong as your typical boomer or know nothing normie. ❤
What a wonderfully articulate man.
Are you gay for him or what
This has got to be the most fascinating thing I've ever seen. I could listen to this man all day.
You must live a very sheltered life.
I could listen to this man FOR HOURS
I found the interview with David fascinating. I did have a tiny amount of understanding of the heroin network in the dying midlands industrial town I grew up in but the detail and depth of David's knowledge was really engaging. Why stupidity, religion and the politics of the incompetent and hard of thinking are allowed to stand in the way of actually tackling the social harm the illegal drug industry does. David's clarity of vision is what's needed not mindless rhetoric and dogma.
Such a smart man, and all the idea's he gave about fixing the drug problem are spot on.
One of the best videos i have seen on the internet!
Fantastic interview!
I found this man and his conversation absolutely captivating. I was glued to it. For some reason I just could not turn away from it. As a former dealer myself, The knowledge, the know-how and the will of the entire game that this man had, it's just something that could never be taught. Any seem like such a good guy with a great outlook on life. I hope everything does well for him
Amazing how one can look at people and not see them as they really are. If I saw this old boy at a coffee shop or on the street I'd never guess in a million years that his life was what it was. Really riveting video; very interesting fellow
Last watched one of his videos two years ago and note he has aged markedly. Still only in his mid-sixties he could be taken for twenty years older at least. The chosen lifestyle taking its toll. His books are also an excellent read.
He's 26 years old, by the way.
LOL!
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He is an articulate and fascinating speaker. That was both informative and entertaining.
He said that he didn't rush the farmers and they trusted him. Just five minutes and he's honesty and realistic views makes me trust him too.
A very truthful, poignant and beautifully delivered argument on why we should end the war on drugs. They’ve already won. Brilliant interview.
Good video 👏 no annoying music in the background just information given in an interesting way
Politicians and drug law enforcement need to listen to people like him.
Too many of them around the world profit from illegal drug trade. Don't forget, it's a multi-billion dollar business, and that's every year.
Really interesting and informative!
I could listen to him talk for hours. What an amazing voice and so captivating.
I like this How Crime Works series, can you please do Wall Street next? Could make it a 100 part series to cover the tip of the iceberg
Which of course started w U S Chattel Slavery~ human Chattel=stock held in *bondage I wonder will we be advanced the whitewashed version. 10.'22
You're right. The story of an insider trader, or someone who had been convicted of illegally manipulating the market would be quite interesting.
Dude talks like we're going on a safari in the 1920s
Fabulously informative. Thank you.
Incredible video. Speaks so eloquently and sensibly about a dirty drug. Fascinating life he’s led and I hope he manages to end his days in some kind of peace with himself. Age brings wisdom and regret.
What an amazing interview. Thank you
This was exceptionally informative and highly intriguing. What a charismatic and knowledgeable character.
So sharp, articulate and intelligent regardless of drugs or no drugs! Brilliant documentary
This was great, thank you for this
This is the only westerner to escape a Thailand Prison, if you guys haven’t seen his story on his escape it’s a must!
would he have been killed facing the death penalty?
Care to give us a link (to erase the search process)?
@@xWingzTV yes
@@GladysAlicea links don't generally work in YouTúbe comments anymore..
@@therealavolpe They do work. I just shared.
Big Respect - True Words - True Wisdom from Experience - Liked the Attitude of this man.
This was a fascinating video to watch.
Very knowledgeable made this video very informative & interesting. 👍🏽
very true about the brown heroin doing a number on your veins due to the acid you need to cook it with to dissolve it. ascorbic acid was the preferred one, but the cheaper and more easily available was just citric acid, or plain lemon juice which can be found in any regular supermarket.
Yep. Number 3 has to be mixed with acid to dissolve. Number 4 is the H salt that dissolves easily. Though it's harder and costlier to make.
They give out satchets of citric acid in the needle packs. It destroys your veins first time. When I used to inject I used a drop of white vinegar.
Usually trauma or chronic loneliness is the reason why people seek out illegal drugs. Sometimes physical pain is the reason. But social issues is the main reason.
The issue of chronic pain is ridiculously downplayed, and when we live in a culture that strives to serve every single comfort and even vice people have, but condemns people with actual severe medical issues to suffer unless they manage to break the law. I have iatrogenic intractable pain from a failed spinal fusion that a neurosurgeon extorted me to do, got PTSD from being verbally assaulted by a "chronic pain management specialist" for "being too young", and limited to taking 45mg of codeine every night, when since the first time I ever took any opioids I had to take 60mg, just to be able to get 4-5 hours of sleep at night and still only one third of the times. Right now I am resorting to complementing my prescription with steady volumetric doses of legal grey area Chinese chemicals, which not only allowed me to at least get a short glimpse of my dream career before insomnia from pain caught up with me, but they still give me actual control over my pain levels (I managed to practice my profession at the top level for 8 months, and was economically independent for over a year with the money I managed to make in 8 months of doing it, and managed to get 4 raises too, when I was about to quit in week 2 due to the pain before ordering them for the first time, but I still don't want to increase my tolerance anymore). If I ever come across the chance to buy heroin, I will do it without a second thought, and if I don't, I hope I don't have to live too long (the goal I hope to beat is to barely outlive my parents, although very often I think of all the things I am losing to pain and I am not even sure about that)
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That's often the case, but sheer boredom will do it too. Excruciating boredom will make young people get into drugs even when they have their whole lives ahead of them. The drudgery and futility of years & years of schoolwork, just to end up an exhausted working stiff like their parents, will often do it.
@@devilsoffspring5519 not just young people. I'm bored af
Plus. Alcohol is also a drug So who's actually really to be on the high ground. Each to our own f off
An excellent informative video. Many thanks
He know SO MUCH. Highly intelligent and knowledgeable. Having a hard time picturing the man on the screen doing what he says he did, but I suppose that's why he managed to do it for so long. Wondering about possible success he could have had in legal businesses.
Thanks for the tutorial mate, very helpful :)
I genuinly love this mans perspective and agree with a lot of the points he's making. I'm astounded by how intelligent this man is; Further proof that It takes all kinds, CEOs, blue collar, soldiers, The homeless, even doctors. It can reach anyone and with what is mixed with now a days, it will such you in.
Thank you for the word. Sincerely.
As a heroin user for decades and a drug chemist of some degree I can say that this man knows what he is talking about, and that is rare in the world of criminals.
This guy is the best narrator. He could talk about basket weaving and I’d listen
Fantastic story! Love this man. Seems like an extremely knowledgeable man. A life full of experience. 😉
I feel like I’m listening to an audio book. This guy is great at explaining and storytelling
I read unforgiving destiny after watching this interview. The bloke is a genius and meticulous in his planning and execution. Highly recommend the book.
What cool dude. Could listen to him forever
Please more stories of this nature. Keep educating and by those who’ve lived it. Cheers.
I purchased David's book "unforgiving destiny". I've read hundreds of books and it's in my top 5! Great author
Very interesting. Tragic too. I'm grateful this man of learned wisdom is sharing his truth.
I wish all professors could just learn from this guy how not to be boring.
We arent learning cosign here bro
He's got sn insane life that's what gives him this cadence andfow
Step 1: traffick heroin
I agree. But if I was back at university, I would much rather him reminisce about the heroin trade than the history of the GDP..
This guy is textbook boring
I’ve done numerous drugs, but have never even considered dabbling in heroin for fear of being so beholden to it that I would never be able to free myself from it.
Don't ever touch it. Please? It will ruin your life.
@@MeganVictoriaKearns I always thought that if I had some horrible, painful, fatal condition-probably some cancer that’s too far along its path for me to survive-that would be the time to give it a go. Otherwise, NO, Never.
I tried it, it was quite underwhelming. Still pleasant. Did it a few times without being addicted and haven't touched it in a few years. It's not the devil's drug lol. Meth is a lot more addictive (at least psychologically)
@@Hensch So not interested in Meth. . .
@@maryrosekent8223 if you've ever taken a good amount of pain killers then you've basically experienced it.
What ab amazing watch! I was rivetted to my seat watching or hearing him speak! As a long suffering victim of the Heroin epidemic in my country (the U.K also!) I could nod my head at some of his comments too! And I wholeheartedly agree on his points on supply demand etc, down to policing this "out of fashion!" Drug... If there ever was one?! But, he touched on so many ideas/fads that comes nto the Drug industry ATM.. My point being, his true words in the Country you find yourself in ATM, is no truer... Heroin must grasped at the beginning of the addiction, or albeit at the time or, At a time where a country can place more efficient treatment programmes than Methadone.
Sir TY for sharing the story u told is so interesting and EPIC wow
Congratulations David thank you for this
Just for you Shaun 😊