What is the BEST HARLEY ENGINE EVER?! - Kevin Baxter - Baxter's Garage - Pro Twin Performance

2023 ж. 4 Нау.
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The Harley Davidson Shovelhead, Evolution, Twin Cam, or Milwaukee 8...What is the best Harley engine ever? Watch this video as we discuss the good and bad of these engines and I reveal my favorite and why.
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  • Had many evos, twin cans, and a M8. The Evo is the motor I like the best. Classic lope, easy to own, bulletproof. I've had 9 HDs over 36 years so far... I think when I sold my M8 and went back to an old Evo...it might just be my last HD.

    @Harleywindtherapy@Harleywindtherapy Жыл бұрын
    • Harleywindtherapy , I did a similar thing mate , I had/have again a 97 Evo softail customised , really nice looking bike , sold it to a mate cause i thought why not try a new bike for once so i bought a brand new Sportglide , yeh it was a nice bike but it wasn,t me ya know , so i ( luckily i have a good mate) pleaded with my friend to sell it back to me and luckily for me he did , so i got my trusty evo back and fucked off the new one after a couple of weeks , good thing about the Evo is you can pretty much fix it yourself not like the brand new ones of today , you nearly gotta be a computer expert just to tune em up .

      @guitarlover889@guitarlover8899 ай бұрын
    • same here bro

      @johnnyreb8030@johnnyreb80309 ай бұрын
    • I would have to agree I have a 98 Evo I love that motor don't have to worry about cam enchanters

      @jerryculleney1664@jerryculleney16649 ай бұрын
    • I hated the m8. It was like a jap shaft drive. Not even a Harley anymore

      @ChanceUrtaking@ChanceUrtaking8 ай бұрын
    • somethin needs to bring you out of misery

      @INUAGAIN@INUAGAIN7 ай бұрын
  • The Shovelhead was the "more than a machine" era. They have a heartbeat like sound about them and will always be my favorite as well.

    @mikearmistead4426@mikearmistead44268 ай бұрын
  • Greetings from Denmark, I drive a 1974 FXE shovelhead that I have driven for 29 years. And I love it and I will never sell it - never. I also have a dl 750cc flathead from 1930

    @henrik5701@henrik5701Ай бұрын
  • Debs husband says that's easy. EVOLUTION. This engine developed good power, sounded great, and didn't leak oil all over the place. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. It was also very reliable.

    @debbiemartin8523@debbiemartin852311 ай бұрын
  • When I see a friend pack up his old Shovel for a long trip, I ask are you taking that? He always said, why not? It was good enough back then to run everywhere ! No matter your choice they all will run and break, give you joy and heartbreak shine and be dirty. At the end, You are riding through life on a Harley-Davidson

    @ChasCrewChief@ChasCrewChief Жыл бұрын
    • Well Said!

      @carlbruhn1772@carlbruhn1772 Жыл бұрын
    • Perfectly said

      @williebutler1736@williebutler1736 Жыл бұрын
    • Of course some manufacturers don't break as often, or as soon. Love my Harley Davidson, but have owned much more reliable motorcycles that I never even thought about mechanics or carrying tools when I rode them.

      @Dave-sw2dm@Dave-sw2dm Жыл бұрын
    • True

      @williamjamesheather1953@williamjamesheather1953 Жыл бұрын
    • I got a friend who a few years ago kept trying to sell me a Suzuki Boulevard that was trying to copy an Indian...... At the time I was building a Harley Bobber in my living room..... Every time I saw him he would proceed to tell me that Suzuki was the bike that I wanted..... I finally got tired of it and told him......"YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE BIKE THAT I WANT???" ......He said "HOW???"..... I replied " BECAUSE I HAVEN'T EVER LAID IN B ED AT NIGHT DREAMING ABOUT OWNING A SUZUKI!!!"

      @trentcunningham5627@trentcunningham5627 Жыл бұрын
  • Currently, my main bike is an '81 Shovel that I've owned now for 20 years, and it's my third Shovel. It's the most reliable bike I've ever owned, and that's probably 50-60 bikes including street, dirt and others. NOTHING sounds like a Shovelhead and the bonus, besides being able to work on it myself...is it has SOUL. Long live the Shovel.

    @thatsmrharley2u2@thatsmrharley2u2 Жыл бұрын
    • Hi. How fast would a 1340 shovel get comfortably. Could you ride a 1000 mile trip without to much worry. Any idea on what makes an S&S engine `better`. Serious questions. I'm coming from the modern sports bike world where everything is fast and just works (mostly). But always hankered after a shovel.

      @NaziHampster@NaziHampster11 ай бұрын
    • @@NaziHampster got a cousin with112,000 miles on his,the wet sumping is not a problem when you ride a couple times a week,i've got one i inherited,there'll be no others,this one is the ONE,SHOVELHEAD,SOUNDS LIKE A HARLEY,these engines were geared from the factory for 55-65 mph,a baker six speed and you are flying.luck to ya

      @strattuner@strattuner10 ай бұрын
    • Shovels rule!

      @Oldwhiteguy@Oldwhiteguy9 ай бұрын
    • Well, the EVO sure did save Harley back in the 80's. We'll know if the REVO will be able to do the same soon enough.

      @pearljaime2@pearljaime28 ай бұрын
  • Had a chopped 55 Panhead FL when I was a youngster -- S&S Carb, Hunt Magneto for improved performance. Beautiful bike. Panheads forever.

    @thinman8621@thinman8621 Жыл бұрын
  • I've owned 9 HDs. Evos, twin cams, and M8. EVOs for me. In fact I just sold off a new M8 Limited and bought an older EVO. Bulletproof and sounds so good looking at idle.

    @Harleywindtherapy@Harleywindtherapy Жыл бұрын
  • Shovelhead for the win !! . I've owned dozens of bikes , Nortons , Triumph's , Ironheads , Shovelheads , Evo's , a V rod and now a Twin Cam . I've worked at a couple of dealerships , 30 + years as a dealership mechanic , many years as a heavy duty mechanic , rebuilt hundreds of engines and have done an extensive amount of machining . I've seen all manner of engine failure's and repaired them. My favourite ........ drum roll ...... Shovelhead , thats not saying that they are the best , it's just my favourite . The best engine ? , most reliable and trouble free is the V rod .... hands down , the problem is ....... a V rod lacks soul , it doesn't have the character that an air cooled pushrod , 45 degree V twin has.

    @TheOriginalHoser@TheOriginalHoser Жыл бұрын
    • My favorite is the shovel, 2nd Iron head, 3rd Evo

      @redlicoricerifleexpert7489@redlicoricerifleexpert7489 Жыл бұрын
    • So true.

      @Dodger2879@Dodger2879 Жыл бұрын
    • Shhhhh....your going to make prices go up. Lol

      @stub4488@stub4488 Жыл бұрын
    • Everybody has there preference They all have there own personality and I agree the Vrod is a different animal Its rods are on different crankshaft journals I would leave it quiet

      @robertcummings1096@robertcummings1096 Жыл бұрын
    • Bro I think that thousands are with you they sound great a little bit of work and they go good but a few adjustments because they don't like modern fuel so a oil cooler set of valve stem seals and maybe valves and a port im still running on my original bottom end yes 3 tops but still top end rebuilds are not really difficult.

      @clintdenman3037@clintdenman3037 Жыл бұрын
  • This is bye far the best Harley mechanic on the web. Trusted and proven. Love the honesty and knowledge. More people need to share knowledge with fellow biker's. Thank you

    @domperuccio@domperuccio Жыл бұрын
    • Wow, thanks! I really appreciate the kind words sir. All the best.

      @KevinBaxter@KevinBaxter Жыл бұрын
    • I agree hands down he explains things like no one else !

      @michaelscott745@michaelscott745 Жыл бұрын
    • 💀Fkng.aye right. Kevin Baxter is a strong individual to say the very least.

      @tomupchurch4911@tomupchurch4911 Жыл бұрын
    • 💯

      @wingandhog@wingandhog Жыл бұрын
    • If you like him why are you saying bye to him?

      @scarhart53@scarhart53 Жыл бұрын
  • The engine in my 1949 EL. Reliable like a tractor, and has been for many many years for me.

    @lpd1snipe@lpd1snipe Жыл бұрын
  • I've owned my 1993 FLHS since new. Took delivery 31 March 93. Solid engine, good fuel economy, lots of bolt on power upgrades. Upgrade the cam (I'm running an Andrews EV27), add a better exhaust (I've got a Thunderheader) and a free flowing air cleaner, you can see close to or at 80 hp and 80 lb/ft. Put in a better ignition module so you can get the revs up and it's a completely different bike to ride. Is it the fastest Harley? Nope. But you can load it down like a rental truck, ride it all day, and it won't disappoint.

    @hackfabrication139@hackfabrication139 Жыл бұрын
  • I used to own an M8 and for the life of me I could never get used to the way it sounded, and the way it felt. And I went back to the Twin Cam. For the sound and feel. But with that said, my 90 EVO Fatboy is the bike I love.

    @michaellanglie5502@michaellanglie5502 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for your video's man

      @wilfredsexton2823@wilfredsexton2823 Жыл бұрын
    • I have a 2020 SGS which is my fourth Harley. Among other things I have a stage two kit and a 2 in 1 mid length Bassani exhaust and it sounds awesome.

      @austinap2248@austinap2248 Жыл бұрын
    • I love the sound of my '15 Ultra Limited. I've had 4 Harley's, never picked pipes based on sound, but this one is the only 1 that has got compliments from strangers for the sound.

      @mrjon75@mrjon75 Жыл бұрын
    • I have to agree though I have kept both. The m8 feels very very smooth and is mechanically very quiet. Because of those characteristics it feels very generic almost. What doesn't feel generic is the way it puts down power. Overall though yeah the twin cam has it all over the m8 in old HD character

      @Vtwin60@Vtwin60 Жыл бұрын
    • I loved my 16 road king but absolutely hated the noisey 103. Had rocker lockers installed and still hated the sound.

      @vulcanman64@vulcanman64 Жыл бұрын
  • Quietly looking around at the other evo 1200 sportster owners wondering what problems are like. Seriously bulletproof motor. Especially after 2004

    @Forzaplayer@Forzaplayer Жыл бұрын
    • All the evo Sportsters are bulletproof.

      @dougfielding8215@dougfielding8215 Жыл бұрын
    • I’ve only ever changed the oil and plugs in my 1200…

      @turdferguson4007@turdferguson4007 Жыл бұрын
    • 65,000 trouble-free miles on my 1998 Sportster 883/1200. Great bike!

      @bradjacobs1844@bradjacobs1844 Жыл бұрын
    • Huge facts, and quite easy to get power out of to boot. Superior valvetrain geometry to almost all Harley's as well. I put 70K miles on my '02. 45K of those miles it was a 95 HP 1250.

      @TurboDog73TX@TurboDog73TX11 ай бұрын
  • I have had several harley"s over the years , Love the sound of the old shovels but reliable goes to the EVO-80 incher in my opinion !

    @kellywilson8440@kellywilson84409 ай бұрын
  • I have always liked my shovel head engines but the rigid mount Sportster Evo engine is a keeper for me.

    @robertweeks2039@robertweeks2039 Жыл бұрын
  • I love Shovelheads. I had a 77 SuperGlide back in the '90's. Rode it everywhere, including to Sturgis and back in 94 . Damn good .Mine was a 74 inch.

    @philmclamb1219@philmclamb1219 Жыл бұрын
  • I've had iron head sportys, shovelheads, evos, and a twin cam 88. No M8 yet. For me, I have had the best luck and trouble free miles with the twin cam.

    @kurtruppenthal9506@kurtruppenthal9506 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Kevin I always appreciate your insight and ability to teach us understandability. Keep it up 👍

      @jamesturnage5783@jamesturnage5783 Жыл бұрын
    • 88 Twin Cam is bulletproof and a totally smooth running machine. Most meatheads are ignorant of these facts!

      @johnswanson3741@johnswanson37413 ай бұрын
  • Revolution Power Train . Not sure why this isn't talked about more. The motor kicks ass.

    @MrBryanwithay@MrBryanwithay Жыл бұрын
  • Evolution 883 is the most reliable air cooled engine Harley has made with that iconic sound.

    @clawhammer704@clawhammer704 Жыл бұрын
    • The twin cam is the best motor HD has produced. I beat mine like a jap bike and can't break it.

      @bear4353@bear435310 ай бұрын
    • The small EVO has been proven to be the best engine that HD has made. I would argue that the 1200 is better but that is only my opinion. For reliability and power per cubic inch it cannot be beat. There is a reason why the sportster engine design is sized up for drag racing. The EVO sporty doesn’t have all of the issues that the big twins have. A square engine is a happy engine. Have a good day everybody!

      @Dipndots87-ms6ds@Dipndots87-ms6ds10 ай бұрын
    • What about the 1200? Looking for something I can ride on the Freeway and can still work on myself.

      @freddyg6940@freddyg69409 ай бұрын
  • My nostalgia comes from my childhood watching some Hell's Angels friends of my dad's come pulling into our driveway on shovelheads regularly. Another is seeing how happy my uncle was after selling his old, oil leaking kickstart shovelhead and getting a used '85 evo Sportster. The same Sportster I learned to ride and pass my DMV test on over 35 years ago. Overall, anything Harley is my warm and fuzzy happy place.

    @billcarson1966@billcarson1966 Жыл бұрын
  • Two shovels, two iron heads and a 96” Twinkie in my herd. The shovels are by far my favorite. And always been.

    @shovelheadlanser@shovelheadlanser Жыл бұрын
    • What do you think about the iron heads

      @dougshadrick9776@dougshadrick9776 Жыл бұрын
  • I thought for sure you would say the EVO Sportster. Just kidding, but it really is a fantastic engine capable of incredible miles.

    @ironcast@ironcast Жыл бұрын
  • Twin Cam 103....incredible sound, power, and reliability.

    @mr2bmw@mr2bmw Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed

      @EagleFang48@EagleFang4810 ай бұрын
    • 103 on a 2015 low rider, nice fast street bike. Not rice rocket fast but fast enough to be fun as hell.

      @bear4353@bear435310 ай бұрын
  • generator shovels look the best to me, but a carb. late evo is tough to beat for reliability.

    @freebird7284@freebird7284 Жыл бұрын
    • 100%.

      @seththomas9105@seththomas910511 ай бұрын
  • I 100% agree with your evaluation! Shovelhead till I'm dead! The look, the sound, the smell, love it! Thanks for a great video full of information!

    @vince4005@vince4005 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve been on a 2019 Street Bob with an M8 and didn’t like it at all,just the sounds was different and it didn’t handle like my nostalgic 03 Heritage Softail Classic,100 year Edition,TC88B,1449cc,I absolutely love this motor and put all my trust in her .especially when I go out of state for bike rallies.Ride safe my friends 🤘🏻🤘🏻

    @Hoglife@Hoglife Жыл бұрын
  • My first Harley was a 1970 FLH. Got it for $1600. It had 32,000 miles on it and I rode for another 3,000 before tearing down the top end for valves and pistons. It ran fine, despite a broken piston ring! Nothing ever came close to that bike...

    @garygruber1452@garygruber1452 Жыл бұрын
  • Good video Kevin. My first Harley was a brand new 1971 FX shovelhead. Kick start only. The sound of that bike idling with that lope can’t be beat. It was only a 1200cc 74 inch engine, but it was so many smiles per mile to ride. And if it broke down on the side of the road I could always get it running. Never on a truck or trailer. Now if the cops back then would have just let us alone. LOL

    @RandyCRR@RandyCRR Жыл бұрын
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      @danielschultz1032@danielschultz1032 Жыл бұрын
    • I had a 72 FX and yes it really did sound amazing remind me of a Corvette with side pipes however with those spindly forks the handling on that machine was not so good on corners it felt like it had a hinge in the middle of the bike. It was an odd feeling and an early road test said the exact same thing.

      @Mr39knuck@Mr39knuck Жыл бұрын
    • It’s a Ducati engine .. Harley is junk !

      @bradmanheim3598@bradmanheim3598 Жыл бұрын
    • I had a ‘72 Sportster, Shovelhead. It still runs fine.

      @mr.d.4175@mr.d.4175 Жыл бұрын
    • The Shovelhead pulls on my heart strings.

      @fmagalhaes1521@fmagalhaes1521 Жыл бұрын
  • First love is the TC 88, my first Harley, but I dream of finding a shovel head or even a knucklehead dust covered in a barn somewhere.

    @Mikego55@Mikego55 Жыл бұрын
  • Completely agreed on the shovel. It’s the one I grew up with and has a sound all its own. You’d better check the oil if it stops leaking though. 😜

    @southernbiker4728@southernbiker4728 Жыл бұрын
  • Yes and Hell yes Kevin, I loved my Shovel Head, as a Union Crane Operator I had no time to go on long Trips ,join a club I was always working , On the one day off a week I could fire up my old FLH and rumble down the freeway to my spot for a Shot and a Beer and all the Weeks Worries seem to fade away. Now for long Cruising something low vibration Smooth and leak free looking more at the twin Cam. Thanks again , Rumbling, leaking,shovel head out ..

    @bena2293@bena2293 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm so glad you didn't say a m8 Kevin... I love all Harleys, I haven't had any experience with older motors but I really dig those flathead bikes that Matt and Dale Walksler from wheels thru time builds.

    @michaelmitchell5909@michaelmitchell5909 Жыл бұрын
  • Kevin, I'm with you with the shovelhead. Back in the mid-70s, I built a pan/shovel 88 incher with S&S flywheels. At first, I pushed the compression up there. But that proved incorrect because i lost what i wanted, reliability and more power. Then, I dropped the compression. That was the ticket. Shovelhead is still my favorite.

    @bruce1816@bruce1816 Жыл бұрын
  • The EVO, without a doubt. Nothing else even comes close. I have an EVO FXRS and 2 EVO Sportsters. Wonderful engines, trouble free, last a long time, and can be rebuilt inexpensively several times. The sound and feel the same as a Shovelhead, but are much more reliable and don't leak oil. Twin Cam with their cheap pressed together cranks that won't stay in alignment and cam chain tensioners that constantly fail are junk, and the M8 is not even a real Harley engine. More like a Goldwing engine that resembles a Harley engine in appearance.

    @geraldscott4302@geraldscott4302 Жыл бұрын
  • I have them both! Love them Both! And in all my years with Harleys they both make me Smile! 75 years young and still ride them both, don't see me going to change at this stage of Life! To each His own. Have fun riding what you enjoy!

    @lawrencetrapani5623@lawrencetrapani56238 ай бұрын
  • Like my 78 shovel, the other thing that saved Harley was the private engineer that invented the softtail, which Harley was smart enough to buy.

    @thompsonjerry3412@thompsonjerry3412 Жыл бұрын
  • Evo Sportster IMO was the best sounding harley ever, and the M8 is the best engine overall with an Stage 2 Aftermarket cam. The M8 doesnt sound like previous harley engines but it does sound mean and aggressive without sounding like a terrible annoying sporty car. It reminds me of those angry sounding drag cars with an aftermarket stage 2 cam. Evo Sportster though... That's the "HARLEY SOUND" to me.

    @FranBunnyFFXII@FranBunnyFFXII Жыл бұрын
  • I have a twin cam, shovel, knuck, a 1275 full tilt rubber mount sporty, a magmun 45, and half a dozen ironheads. My twin cam is my go to for a bike I can just jump on and ride, but my heart is with the ironheads. They're fun, sound great, and just have so much soul.

    @WVXL64@WVXL64 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ll never forget my good mate brought a shovel, he fired this thing up in the shed…. Oh my god! Thanks for your time Kev

    @ozziejim8472@ozziejim8472 Жыл бұрын
  • My first bike was a Sears Allstate 175, not street legal, first harley was a 74 sportster. Then I got a shovel, 74 also, a few triumphs, a norton, BSA. I'm getting my shovel ready for the summer and have been riding my 78 Triumph this winter. My shovel will probably carry me across country this summer, and maybe I can get my triumph rebuilt and no longer burning oil this year.

    @johnmcclain3887@johnmcclain3887 Жыл бұрын
  • I like my EVO. It's not gonna win a race anytime soon, but it will run highway speed all day long and has a reputation for being reliable. In these times the economy being what it is, I'll take reliable and easy to maintain over speed and constant maintenance. To each their own, let's ride.

    @PincheBuzo@PincheBuzo Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah me to mate. Iove my 93 evo .👍😎

      @raymondwilliams5661@raymondwilliams5661 Жыл бұрын
  • 1950 FL with a 1975 Shovel top end fitted with S&S 4 1/4 flywheels, rods, and pistons. Owned since 1971 and rebuilt in 1980 with S&S parts etc. Built rigid frame Evo in 2002 to duplicate Pan Shovel. At 73, I'm retired from motorcycling now and treasure all the great times these motors have taken me to. Hate to have to sell them, but they need to be ridden...

    @williamhawkins7282@williamhawkins7282 Жыл бұрын
  • I have been riding the same 1983 shovel head for 27 years it's on its forth rebuilt top end, I love it

    @WendellCarroll-jc4ly@WendellCarroll-jc4ly16 күн бұрын
  • Owned many over the year's and each had their quirks...the shovel is on the top of my list. Evo is right there with it. Difficult to answer this for sure. The M8 is also a great engine. The heat of my old shovel in the winter was welcomed....that old shovel was a tank that ran when it probably shouldnt have

    @michaelreed9805@michaelreed9805 Жыл бұрын
  • i have always said the EVO has every up grade from a knuckel head im still a flat head guy 50 yrs and counting my HD has aways got me home HAPPY TRAILS

    @donrice8026@donrice8026 Жыл бұрын
  • I once asked @shovelheadffej “Why the shovel?” He told me because of all the reasons you mentioned AND the look. When I found out about split rockers, I then, finally agreed. Now, I cannot wait to build one. I’ve spent my whole, half a century on this planet, admiring 1972’s like me. Now, I’m on the hunt for a 1972.

    @johnh2349@johnh23498 ай бұрын
  • Rode an EVO a few times, owned a 96B, two 103A's multiple Sportster EVOs, and currently a 107 M8 in a Road King. Hands-down, the M8 is the best engine I've ridden yet. Sounds great through Rinehart Duals. Tone is a little different sure, but still noticeably Harley-Davidson.

    @lexustech48@lexustech48 Жыл бұрын
  • The 79' shovel head had something notable done to it by Harley Davidson, the last 24 shovel head motors Harley Davidson built were customized by Harley Davidson that fixed the problems associated with the shovel head motor!

    @cliffordolive1@cliffordolive1 Жыл бұрын
  • Great rundown on the motors through the years. I know a lot of Shovel owners. I was not one of them. But I always felt the love from those Road them. I’ve owned Ironhead, Evos, Twinkies and now M8 and I’ve gotta say, the M8 tops them all. I have a modest build with S&S .475 cam complete with quickie pushrods, oil pump and cam plate. I was a bit disappointed by the plastic intake, had to get the aluminum alloy intake. It was a whole new bike, awake, alive and very responsive! Had Dyno Steve of Olympia tune it up really nice and netted me 107 HP and 104 ft/lbs of torque. I couldn’t be happier! CHEERS! I love your content and how you break everything down and it all making sense!

    @mcdgtodd@mcdgtodd Жыл бұрын
  • I loved my 1981 Shovelhead FXE, Red. Bought it brand new. Road a 1972 Sportster in high school. I think the best engines from H/D are the ones they're selling right now! That way, the company stays in business... I'm 60yrs and I don't want to see Harley-Davidson go away. Where will I get parts for my EVO Sporty? J. from Michigan.

    @JamesSmith-op7yc@JamesSmith-op7yc Жыл бұрын
  • I owned 2 shoveheads, one Evo and currently own a 06 Twin cam. I wish I still had them all. I miss the shoveheads a bunch, just because they were as old as me. The evo really no complaints, But in enjoy my twin cam more in my older " I don't always want to tinker" age. And I expect it will be my final bike ( Road King) as it's just that much fun and it's growing old with more grace then it's owner. So that's reason enough to keep her around, along with my Bride.

    @davidchereneimmel8820@davidchereneimmel8820 Жыл бұрын
  • The best Harley engine is the one propelling you down a curvy scenic road. My current one is a bone stock M8 107 with 24,000 miles on it.

    @Dave-sw2dm@Dave-sw2dm Жыл бұрын
    • Fantastic motor! I enjoy mine as well as my 103ho and my Evo before it.... yep I enjoy them all

      @Vtwin60@Vtwin60 Жыл бұрын
  • My beloved Ironhead was left out in the cold again. I take full responsibility. I'm a sucker for an underdog. Another great video Kevin, as always and thank you for your time, your knowledge and your clear information.

    @richardalvis4695@richardalvis4695 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!!

      @KevinBaxter@KevinBaxter Жыл бұрын
  • Rode my 77fxe for23 years!!! Still to this day, best Harley I’ve ever had!!!

    @scottgold4335@scottgold433510 ай бұрын
  • 1973 while in the Navy, I bought a used ‘69 Police Special FLH shovel head from San Diego Harley Davidson on India Street . The dealership gave me $500 in trade for ‘71 Kawasaki H1 500. After Jim the salesperson showed me how to operate the bike, I was ready to go, but a funny thing happened - I couldn’t make the right turn onto the one way street. The bike steering was completely different than my Honda 90 and H1. It took me about thirty minutes to drive around downtown San Diego to figure out the bikes handling characteristics. Anyway, when I got out of the Navy in ‘74, guys in a pick up truck threatened to blow my head off if I didn’t give them the bike. I sped away from them and soon as I got home I put the bike up for sale.

    @volvotron@volvotron Жыл бұрын
  • For sheer beauty, the Panhead, the hot 86 cube Shovel I had in a rigid had a ton of grunt, example power monos in 3rd gear, but the engine I enjoyed the most was the Evo with an "E" series shorty carb in a '97 Lowrider. I now have a TC88 Road King which is somewhat unspectacular, but it does everything I need as an old guy, and it's real pretty in black and chrome.

    @Jesse-B@Jesse-B Жыл бұрын
  • To me 66-69 FLH engine is the best as far as classical look and reliability

    @TheSkylark16@TheSkylark16 Жыл бұрын
  • I’m the proud happy owner of an 81 Shovelhead that I bought new and also a 92 Evo I bought new. As far as performance and reliability I’m leaning towards my Evo I suppose ,but as far as a classic old friend that’s never let me down and has a sound that truly talks to me on those long solo hi-way night time road trips that I used to do so many of! If you haven’t experienced it , it’s impossible to describe… Shovelhead therapy …..it’s magic.

    @user-iv6yq2fb1t@user-iv6yq2fb1t11 ай бұрын
  • Kevin is a great guy. Extremely knowledgeable and honest as the day is long... I'm blessed in that I live just down the road from the shop.

    @tomupchurch4911@tomupchurch49118 ай бұрын
  • For the sound and feel, I do love a carbureted twin cam.

    @3percentmick705@3percentmick705 Жыл бұрын
    • Picking up my first HD tomorrow, a carb'd '01 FB that's had the cams and tensioner done, V&H Short Shots and jet kit installed and runs very well with 35K on the clock. Can't wait for spring!!!!

      @1vmxracer@1vmxracer4 ай бұрын
    • Had 3 evos. On a 2002 twin cam carb fat boy now .I think 2002 was a good year for twin cam ( solid crank )

      @John-ob7dh@John-ob7dh3 ай бұрын
  • Consider that since thier introduction the Ironhead Sportster engines made in the neighborhood of 1 HP/CI, and that is no big deal for modern motorcycles. AMF was the company that had engineers who figured out the economics of torque regarding H-D heavyweight motorcyces, and based the EVO engine on that. My Kawi C14 engine makes 159 HP for 82 CI with 100% proven reliability. That's 1.94 HP/CI.

    @MarkPalmer1000@MarkPalmer1000 Жыл бұрын
  • Had a twin cam that never gave me any issues...but it's gone and my '79 shovel that hates to sit is still here. I have a 48 pan in pieces. people have asked me why not sell the Shovel and finish the Panhead. I don't know why...I just love that Shovel.

    @BeardTone@BeardTone Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video Kevin. Thanks for taking the time to share. Cheers

    @rsbharley4766@rsbharley4766 Жыл бұрын
    • Cheers!

      @KevinBaxter@KevinBaxter Жыл бұрын
  • My favorite would be the panhead. I love the exhaust cadence and the gear whine from the bottom end..love it!

    @dilo777@dilo777 Жыл бұрын
    • Good choice!

      @KevinBaxter@KevinBaxter Жыл бұрын
  • I love that snappy sound of the twin cam, the look of the evo and shovel. M8s are really fun because they don’t have any dead spots, just power for days. So if I’m going on a cross country trip I’d probably like to have an M8 because you can have them worked on everywhere you go and they are just so comfortable to me, after riding those new bikes all day after the demo truck came to town and hoping back on my 97 softail with an EV27 cam in it I realized that even though this bike’s power band is much smaller and lacking power compared to those new shinty bikes I still love riding my evo. It felt so small compared to the new bikes also, but it felt kind of like home to me in a sense, not to mention that instant throttle response from the carb and not getting the input lag of EFI. All the different bikes have their places but at the end of the day a Harley is a Harley wether it be a sportster or a ultra limited. I don’t think I could not ride one as my main bike, even though I love my 1975 cb550 it’s just not the same as a Harley

    @docsspeakeasy4796@docsspeakeasy479611 ай бұрын
  • I wish this guy was my next door neighbor. Tons of knowledge.

    @TERRYMCCLUSKEY@TERRYMCCLUSKEY Жыл бұрын
  • My 86 FXR 80 inch Evo can and will keep right up with my 17 Dyna with the 103 TC. Never had a motor related major issue with the Evo yet, solid as day one. TC has been solid as well.

    @scotty7663@scotty7663 Жыл бұрын
  • I love the Shovel Heads myself!!! Hands Down!!

    @robertrich5774@robertrich5774 Жыл бұрын
  • I have to go with my carbureted 88 twincam. I got the cam issue sorted out. And it runs like a bear. Even if its 20 degrees out, full choke and two throttle whacks and she fires up every time. So I have no complaints. Now I would love a 80in flathead though.

    @xjeffyb4656@xjeffyb4656 Жыл бұрын
  • I bought a new shovelhead Superglide in December 1972 when the 73s were out. At that time, the 72s were 2100.00. When they pulled Their last beautiful black Superglide out to the shop and started it oil went all over the floor from wet sump from sitting, and never had that problem again. I wanted fatbob tanks and the 73s had the new style trach and rear brakes didn’t look like a good setup to me. The 72 good bike for me always ran well and sounded really good. One issue with the 72s that I know of besides engine problems. In the machining process the transmission shifting dogs They missed One swipe of the machining, which left one dog larger than all others. my bike was four years old I remove the trans and took the parts to Harley And of course they said they only had a 90 day warranty but when I showed him it was a factory defect they paid for all the parts thrust washers that were worn, because riding on one side of the Shift dog. At that time it was only $90 of parts. I sold it for twice As much money when it was 14 years old with a wide glide front end and framed print shop. Kevin, I would like to know what year shovelhead you would buy in stock form.

    @geniemattson1578@geniemattson1578 Жыл бұрын
  • Subscribed because of this video. Great breakdowns which obviously come from a lot of experience!

    @Opposable_Thumb@Opposable_Thumb Жыл бұрын
  • I have owned a lot of them, shovel heads, evos, twin cams and now M8. I have to say the M8 is my favorite followed closely by my 2008 96” twin cam.

    @waydel1@waydel1 Жыл бұрын
    • M8 is my favorite is user friendly torque and power from the factory. Twin cam is my favorite for harley character that the new m8 just do not have. M8 is silky smooth and quiet mechanically. Neither of which apply to my tc or my previous Evo.

      @Vtwin60@Vtwin60 Жыл бұрын
  • Well said! I grew up as a young boy around shovel heads and i love the way they sound and smell when they burn fuel! That being said, i started riding twin cam 88, which i absolutely love, but now having an m8 im finding a new love! Really we can love them all and yes they have their place so there again, well said! Keep up the great content, I've learned so much. Piece from Sturgis SD!

    @jeremyaspen5610@jeremyaspen5610 Жыл бұрын
  • Out of the engines you mentioned..Shovelhead, no doubt about it. I have one of my Shovel for 42 years and it still is my favorite bike. Not on your list and mainly for appearance reasons -Panhead, the best looking engine ever!

    @jens-3949@jens-3949 Жыл бұрын
  • I had a '74 ( Shovelhead) AMF H.D. Superglide with sportster pipes. Like you, I liked the way sounded ( cast iron cylinders).Very reliable and ran smooth !

    @dancripe9224@dancripe92248 ай бұрын
  • Kevin well said. I had one bike that started life as an 82 fxrs of course with the shovel and after owning it for about 10 years it dropped a rod out of the bottom end so we put an S&S 96 inch evo in the frame. Unfortunately after having to have some shoulder surgery i sold it and regretted it ever since and until i bought my 2020 ultra limited i had both the 88 and 103 version of the twin cam. But its really hard to beat the combination of the ride and sound from the shovel fxrs. Keep up the great content

    @sidneybranham8513@sidneybranham8513 Жыл бұрын
  • I've had my M&M FI 1998 Road King for 19 years. When I upgraded the stator and rectifier, with 9000 miles on the bike, it solved all kinds of issues, mainly the cam sensor always melting. I now have 79,000 miles on that bike. Just completely stock besides true duals and the charging system. That EVO Just always runs. I still get 47 mpg. I am getting older and thinking of a new RG for the fairing.

    @jamescurnutt1628@jamescurnutt1628 Жыл бұрын
  • Sometimes you just blow me away! The way you connect with people is amazing!! You play at such an amazing level , but can reach back and relate and remember what it’s like to try and excell how to play and the way to get thru all the bullshit !!!! Thanks Steve!,

    @markbrowning9068@markbrowning90685 ай бұрын
  • My personal favorite is the early carbed Twin Cams...to my ears, they sound the best...I've had a shovelhead/troublehead, NEVER again...& I had a 2008 110 Screaming Eagle CVO Electra Glide, but the one I kept is my 1999 Road King...while it hasn't been completely trouble free, it's had way fewer problems than the other two, & sounds better too...

    @Road_Rash@Road_Rash11 ай бұрын
  • I love and respect all manner of Harley's, I do think its interesting that the reliability equation is per cubic inch for Harley and per CC for Japanese bikes with decades between them. Honda putting 75hp in a 750cc engine back in 1970 that could outlive its owner before a rebuild, while I've lost count of how many mild top end rebuilds I've done on 90's Evo sportster engines (great motor btw) for customers that I've done. Not shaming Harley, they are my all time favorite cruisers. Great video, thank you, and may the road wind for miles.

    @themetabaron8722@themetabaron8722 Жыл бұрын
  • Up until my current bike, a 103 inch 06 Heritage, all my bikes were Pans and Shovels. I really miss my 49 Pan. It is my favorite bike ever. 74 inches, slow by today's standard but started and ran every time I went out to go for a ride. Simple and dependable. Plus the jockey shift took the cool factor way up. Now I have fuel injection and really wish it was a carb bike. I don't need or want mind melting power, just a good running bike. And yes it sumps too. Even with the S&S cam chest upgrade. I made a mistake on the cam choice so next weekend I am pulling the S & S 551 cam out (can't get rid of detonation) and a Red Shift 576 is going in. And I get to tune it all over again. Oh joy. In the end, after almost 50 years of riding I agree. A P!n or Shovel are my favorites. With them you really can go for a put with your friends. I am seriously considering selling the Heritage and building another Pan. Thank you and be safe.

    @Big.Ron1@Big.Ron1 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video, fun to listen to! I’ve only had twin cam 103s. Two twin cooled H.O. and a non balanced Dyna and balanced Ultra. Twin Cams have been my favorites so far. A stage two M8 may be next in several years.

    @LongDistanceMotorcycleFans@LongDistanceMotorcycleFans11 ай бұрын
  • I still have my 73 FX Shovelhead Superglide I bought in '90 and mildly customized.. the engine was upgraded to 91ci it's hand shifted..it will definitely peg the fun meter...I also have a 99 Evo Heritage Classic it's upgraded to 96ci...it too is capable of pegging the ol' fun meter...

    @stevenbonnesen5988@stevenbonnesen5988 Жыл бұрын
  • The best Harley Davidson motor is the one that most Harley Davidson riders hate that is the 1130 cc vrod engine I put 50,000 miles on one and it never leaked. One bit of oil never overheated never left me stranded.

    @Callmedaddy1@Callmedaddy1 Жыл бұрын
  • i own a 1971 FLH, a 2000 FLHTC and a 2018 FLHR. there is NOTHING that sounds like a shovel. it's the only bike i own with a soul.

    @steve28849@steve28849 Жыл бұрын
  • I've had my 2006 88ci carburator. 17 years still running strong

    @darrellteague8629@darrellteague8629 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for a very interesting listening. I've never owned a Shovel, but I too like the sound a well mainted Harley Shovel. My first EVO was a '91 Heritage, and I loved it event hough it was quite standard. After that I had a '99 Softail Springer and that was an amazing ride. Fired up to 92hp on the the rear wheel it was 'hot'. Nowadays I have a '10 Fatboy - smooth as silk, fits like a glove and never fails. Pure love. However, I once loaned a bike that I never will forget - a guy had just finished his Chopper with a '55 Panhead, and he kept naggin' me to try the damn thing. Which I did... and now I can't get rid of the memories of that ride. Anyway, thanks for the great listening...

    @petersunesson2171@petersunesson2171 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Kevin. I remember 80 Cu. inch shovel owners mostly complaining about poor quality control, overheating, oil consumption, and detonation. It would be nice to know your thoughts on the weak points of each big twin 74 inch and up OHV engine designs and which years had serious issues and if the issues are a relatively easy fix with today's aftermarket parts. I'm looking to build a bike around a H-D engine and transmission clone like rev-tech, Jims, etc, (or buy a mostly original 84 to 86 FXRS if I can). I like the look of the Pan (and most of my friends who have been H-D owners since the 70's seem to revere the old Pan), but I also rode a few early Evos (84-86 FX twin shock and soft tails) and liked those performance wise (at that time every 80 cu. inch shovelhead owner I new wished they had waited for the Evo - and better quality control - before buying their new 80-83 H-D - I wonder why the Shovel is so popular now - are the problems all fixable now?).

    @scottb8175@scottb8175 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for your honest opinion!! I am an old guy but your no BS approach is refreshing!! Got a m8 thing flys.. just cam and intake.. all I need.. if I was going to do anything else would be wings!! Live well!!

    @danielfitzgerald-hy9ic@danielfitzgerald-hy9ic Жыл бұрын
    • Much appreciated! Be well sir. Thank you!

      @KevinBaxter@KevinBaxter Жыл бұрын
  • Ive only had EVO's and now M8's bypassed the twin cam so can't comment on them and not lucky enough (or old enough) to have ridden a Shovel. As much as I love the sound and feel of the old Evo, it's hard to go back. The progress, shove and performance you're greeted with on a new M8 is too satisfying. So far I'm loving the 114 M8.

    @nikitis13@nikitis13 Жыл бұрын
  • I have a 2002 T.C and a 1980 FXWG, the T.C gets me where I need to go, but there’s nothing like the feeling of that shovel shaking between your legs, not to mention the sound. It’s like the engine is alive. Great video👍

    @karlanderson9864@karlanderson9864 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Kevin..must agree I love my old 74 shovel

    @bigjoe6814@bigjoe6814 Жыл бұрын
  • Hey Kev I'll go one step further, my old panhead it's still my favorite sled even though my two twin cam motorsicles make almost twice the power, there is something to be said about classic iron

    @seanmurphy5988@seanmurphy5988 Жыл бұрын
  • Grateful for you making this video ‼️🙏🏻🇺🇸

    @stephendavidcavuoti6548@stephendavidcavuoti654813 күн бұрын
  • My bike is a 2002 Road King with the Twin Cam 88. I bought it new and picked it up in October 2001. I've never had a minute's trouble with it in its 58,000 miles. I'm 83 and still riding that bad boy--love it.

    @accnolecpanole1680@accnolecpanole1680Ай бұрын
  • I’ve had 5 TC, been pretty Happy w em all.. also had a VRod, great engine, un Harley like but the suspension (or lack thereof) on that bike was killer!

    @johnasbury9915@johnasbury9915 Жыл бұрын
  • I agree 💯, I ride a evo fxr but the shovel will always be #1 for me actually looking at a '82 fxr now same age as me 😁

    @williebutler1736@williebutler1736 Жыл бұрын
  • Your videos are some of the best. Thank you for all your shared knowledge and exsperance.

    @songdogsniper3678@songdogsniper367811 ай бұрын
  • Kevin, you hit all the great talking points in this op-ed. The best motor is the one your riding. Your favorite, is the one your building. As for my opinion, my favorite motor ? The 2 valve Ducati desmo in my 2011 Monster 1100EVO. My favorite from H-D Mo-Co. the EVO. The EVO for simplicity and reliability. I've owned 2) EVO's. Still have a "Twinkie" 88/95. Currently own a 107 M-8 Road King. Thanks once again for the knowledge you share with us.

    @jeffreyjones3228@jeffreyjones3228 Жыл бұрын
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