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Love how Joe basically said “ that’s my friend “ without making it to obvious.
He should have backed him up more honestly. Pussy Rogan doesn't want to offend juiceman tho.
Usman don’t care
@@User-79916_ue he cares, this dude is in love with his presentation
@@fulahno I’m pretty sure usman wouldn’t care knowing some fat steroid junkie bodybuilder who can’t touch his back is Joe Rohan’s friend
@@fulahno a fact many people can’t see sadly lol
Usman trying to convince people he's natural is like Schaub trying to convince people he's funny.
Usman is one of the most tested UFC fighters, so he really doesn’t need to say anything. The results speak for themselves.
Schaubs stand up isn’t funny I will give you that but when he roasts Theo von that shits hilarious to me
Or intelligent schaub a dummy
@@Ceefore I wouldnt trust them.
@@Ceefore lmfao. Lance Armstrong never failed a drug test either. I have a bridge to sell you.
Love how Joe's immediately like "oh that's Derek 🤙"
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Wtf is that disgusting pfp
I like how you can tell Joe is making it obvious he’s cool with Derek 😂
Usman makes every story sound like a spooky campfire story
That’s the perfect explanation of how he talks 😂
Five scars on my stomach... 👁👄👁
It's a testament to his maturity level. People who speak as if theyre always telling a story have underdeveloped communication skills.
@@fishndad4355 how?
@@fishndad4355 he was telling a story
I love the way Joe Rogan can say something to the audience without making the person he’s intervening aware of it
hahaha
Yeah like breaking the fourth wall
" Highly likely!"
likes wysi
Hot Leaf Juice
Honestly if he had just said "I had some weird moles removed from when I wrestled in college" I'd believe him but the facts this man gave a full 15 minute monologue about it is so weird dude 😆
He seems kind of dumb. I mean he STILL seems perplexed by the concept of moles, as though it’s not weird enough he was perplexed as a teenager.
I think hes juicing but the dudes on a podcast, i think its ok to tell the whole story. hes the guest lmfao they wanna hear him talk
@@danielmizrahi9629 it's not just that he told the whole story. It's the amount of detail and passion he puts into that makes it funny but also sus
@@BrandonGiordano That's why I don't like podcasts lol an on the street or a limited timed interview warrants faster answers. On podcasts people ramble and ramble.
@@BrandonGiordano damn it’s kinda like it’s a podcast💀
i never understand how people can outright lie and not feel weird about it.
In their head they make it less outright. You and I do it too. Everyone does. The more u let yourself go the worse it gets
they believe the ends justify the mean. truly sick people
@@classyviper1one for what reason did you think to bring this up?
Sociopath
@@twerkinalisha7346 maybe jon Jones I don’t see Kamaru to be that type
"Some dumass that's on youtube" Rogan enthusiasticly: "THAT'S PROBABLY MORE PLATES MORE DATES!" 🤣😂
It's like they playing charades
In that moment, usman realized he f’d up
He loves Derek lol
He was trying to discredit him by not even acknowledging his name, didn't expect the instant shoutout by Rogan lol
@@whiteobama3032 this yes. How Joe casually mentions he was on the show. Kinda letting Juiceman know that he shouldn't call him some stupid dude. Joe also, in my opinion, throws a small burn towards Usman with the comments about that picture. Joe clearly saying, without saying, that Usman is full of shit :)
He looked even more guilty after his explanation 😂😂😂 It’s like the time I asked my 5 year old who ate the last cookie and she gave me a 10 minute story about how it wasn’t her.
There mustve been a burglar who left the cash, television, electronics, and only stole the last cookie without leaving behind any trace of evidence. Clearly he was just trying to frame her, its the only logical explanation.
Soooo burn scars over moles 🤔 hmmm...
It’s a podcast lmaoo ofc he’s going to respond with a story this is for our entertainment…
funny that humans do that even at a young age. i watch interrogation vids and one thing that guilty fucks do is give way too much information. when someone is telling the truth the truth is usually concise particularly if its in response to a simple fucking question
@@TallCanDan02 Can confirm I am a professional burglar and I break into houses just to steal last cookies or leave only a sip of milk left in the fridge.
Rule #1 spotting fake natty: they get upset that you think they may be or may not be on roids.
@sccopp then they're insecure
@sccopp I'm natty and would take it as a huge compliment when someone accused me of being on juice.
@@niedrichFrietzsche you probably don’t get asked often enough. it can get to a point where you’re called “the steroid guy” by people who’ve barely trained, discrediting all you’ve done to achieve your physique without cheating
I used to think you were wrong Derek I thought Hormones were cheating and people didn’t want to put the work in. I work out 5x a week always have. Now that I’m 38 and see how hard it is just to keep where I’m at. I won’t hesitate to say you’re right in most cases. Your body stops cooperating at a certain age. These dudes are on gear 💯
Diminishing returns is real, unfortunately.
For me the same, but genetics do differ a lot. I'm 36 and even though I can still pack on muscle easily, it comes always comes with fat also. I have a buddy from Nigeria who is 45, smokes weed everyday and drinks quite a bit. Works out regularly and has looked jacked and ripped all his life, to a point where you would think he is either 25 or using steroids.
These days “gear” can mean so many different things. But I would think twice before judging a person that’s using gear specifically for improving their well being. Though, it’s a complicated subject no doubt.
@@GEEZYEA777 there's unequivocally nothing wrong with being on gear. In fact, I highly recommend it for a lot of men. It's only a "problem" in a couple situations, 1) when it is done to the extremes, and 2) when you have two dudes in an octagon fighting and only ONE of them are... which is exactly what's happening constantly under USADA lol. Sadly, 99% of the mma fan base aren't just too naive, they're too stupid to understand the complexities of PEDs 🤦 it's also f*ing hilarious when you read about fans cry and whine about how Jones and Silva aren't goats because of PEDs, as if the majority aren't lmao
@@redneckrambo9626 There's also the problem of genetics. Some people handle steroids very poorly. They get absolutely horrendous acne or gyno. Unfortunately, you can't tell until you actually try and get the effects.
So funny when these athletes play dumb and make themselves look dumber than they are pretending to be
Don't forget those pos worthless "actors" like johnson
Us Usman is too upset for him not to be on peds
Or you’re just dumb enough to believe he’s on PEDs because Derek said so but has no proof whatsoever?
Is he dumb? So if you were one of the most successful fighters in the world, with a large amount of your career ahead of you, you would admit to using PEDs and lose your career? That’d be the smart thing to do?
@@lucaflookaflames9007 He is dumb considering he's denying the obvious instead of just not discussing the topic.
Honestly I’m a fan of both but Kamaru’s response is like a case study in “how to sound super defensive/over explanatory/completely guilty of the topic under discussion”.
Well, he had to explain it to the public since it's his integrity that was put on blast. We live in a world where people evaluate the truth of a person based on the reaction of how he is explaining it or sounding like rather then the actual facts he is presenting. The truth lies in the facts not in his way of sounding like. Everything must be considered. Sometimes, the emotions of a person gets the best of them and they just sound they way they sound, defensive since they are defending themselves in a way. If we only evaluate the way he sounds rather then the facts, a lot of innocent people would have been blamed for things they never did. Just sharing my thoughts. Peace!
@@lolaWWEWWFpunk 😂 your a great example of what the original commenter was describing. “Super defensive/over explanatory” ect But it’s not about his response, the evidence for PED abuse is overwhelming.
@@jakedemaggio8649 I was sharing an opinion and discussing in a healthy manner my thoughts related to the subject. How was I defensive? I don't understand why you got triggered mate. Chill! Well, It doesn't matter. I ain't gonna reply to someone who couldn't comprehend what I commented. Good day!
It’s normal to be defensive. It’s like the argument “the one who said they didn’t do it means they did do it”. If you haven’t been taking PEDs and someone with over million subscribers says you take it, will hurt you. Not saying he is saying the truth, but it’s a natural reaction
@@jakedemaggio8649 OK USADA proof? I'll wait
Kamaru is the worse liar ever smh .Especially when they go into these long winded stories where it just goes on and on and they just happen to remember exact details for things that they did 10-15yrs ago lol
😂
"okay so what had happened was...."
It really does sound like he’s telling a scary story every time he talks
Haha I was just thinking the same thing today. You could dub in some scary ambience and you’d think he’s at a campground trying tell a scary story to people.
that's exactly what it is. I can't stand hearing him.
He alawqys seems to be story mode. That’s the thing that Guilty types do. They are constantly nervous about the Truth so they tell stories.
Most underrated comment ever
@@cherobinson6371 eh that just seems to be his cadence when he speaks. Kind of a reach to call him a liar based off that.
Kamaru is on the juice. I like his attitude and his work ethic but attacking people who point out the obvious just isn’t the way to do it. Edit: for all the people attacking me in the replies, you’re just making my point for me. Looks like you’re all just as thin skinned as Kamaru JuiceMan.
And they always assume that they are trying to undermine their work. You still need to train hard on peds, they don't just magically add muscle
Of course, he said it hurt his feelings. Wouldn’t hurt your feelings if it wasn’t true.
@@kevindimas253 unless he has actually popped , I refuse to believe or accuse someone of peds . That’s a very serious accusation and shame on derrick.
@@JavierNYC423 I definitely could've worded that better, but I was talking in a more general sense for the fake nattys on Instagram. But I'm with you on this, these professional athletes get thoroughly tested
@@JavierNYC423 you're a naive clown lmao.
I'm always impressed that whenever Derek does natty or nots, he lays out the evidence, evaluates each piece of evidence for credibility and PED implications, rattles off a bunch of shit about androgen receptors and whatnot, and concludes that the evidence suggests a probability one way or the other or that it's not enough to prove or disprove something. He never just latches onto something and says, look he's on gear.
Derek is as transparent as can be. When it comes to evaluating people. His experience and knowledge trumps a lot of medical doctors.
Well sure, But I would never agree with him thinking that jocko is on roids. I don't believe that to be true at all.
@@kyphoticlifting4474 lol, that guy is definitely on gear, no 50 yr old looks like that
@@wtfftw3000 I am natural, I run Marathons and have a 600 lbs deadlift, You can work hard and reach serious achivements without roids as long as your dedicated enough
@@kyphoticlifting4474 true, but it’s physically impossible to be that shredded at 50 without gear
You can tell he’s lying when he starts the story with “It’s funny to me”
Was thinking that too but marty's personality is so forced it's impossible to tell what he actually thinks
Dumb ass! He gets tested so many times throughout the duration of his fight camp. It's impossible for him to be on PED.
@@Jayy-FD lol u must be new
@@Jayy-FD lmao, dude 99% of mma fighters are on PEDs! Go and research "how to avoid testing positive for PEDs" before you open your mouth 🤡
Kamaru always talks like he’s sitting around a campfire telling you the secrets of the universe
Marty speaking in spooky campfire voice denying being a cheat will never get old
Mannnnnnn, that's the best description i've read. Great fighter but his character just bores me to death, so unlike able.
lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@@scoot1207 i like it it’s goofy and easy going but yeah the dishonesty is only funny.
Spooky campfire voice is the best description I've heard of his voice so far 😂😂😂
but he has never popped… i understand crying at jon jones for lying but cmon yall gotta stop acting like its impossible for usman to be clean… is he on shit, possibly, but freak genetics exist, hes one of the goats for a reason
Hows it feel getting as popular as you are now? Whole other world opened up for you Derek. Proud of you man
Once one of these dudes confronts him in real life and whoops his ass, then he’s definitely made it 😂
@@senecaturnpike9179 that's fucking illegal!
@@kosteaproduction I instantly heard Dana White 😂😂😂
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@@senecaturnpike9179 yeah and then they get to court cry in front of the judge and pay a lot of money and their career is done.
Usman coming off mad insecure and defensive, especially if Derek never directly accused him.
he's always like that, about anything
The fact that he dismissed the criticism as “some dumbass on KZhead” without being willing to admit you made a compelling case, even if he ultimately still denied it, just makes me believe all the more that he sauced. Injection site issues notwithstanding.
How would he know it’s a compelling case if he (according to him) isn’t familiar with things associated with PED use to begin with?
@@AllSeeingThai First, I don’t believe usman is telling the truth. It’s a ridiculous assertion that a professional athlete at his level doesn’t know anything about PEDs and what they due. Second, they would know because the video does a great job explaining it.
He called himself a dumbass too. Maybe it's not that serious. Probably calls his friends that too. A lot of wannabe Sherlock's in the comments.
@@AllSeeingThai I believe one of the points in the video is that his former team/gym have had quite a lot of PED related issues too. Aside from that every mma fan, hell every sport fan is somewhat familiar with PED’s let alone a world champion, oh and his brother and father are in pharmaceuticals. All of that together should make it almost impossible for a man who looks like that to be completely unaware of PEDs
Did you even watch the video, you think Usman would watch an hour video about his steroid use? I don't even have that kinda time...
When you have to “answer” a simple question with a long and semi-emotional story, you probably are hiding something...
Although I do think he might be a juicer, that isn't indicative of anything. Let's be honest, many people would still think he's a juicer regardless of the answer he gave. Let's not act like that wouldn't be the case lol
@@crimsonraiza3633 because it’s obvious he juices 🤣
@@crimsonraiza3633 Yeah, but he's always awkward when people bring up peds
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Yeah, usman didn't respond well, but i actually consider him to be very intelligent by mma athlete standards, so he'll probably learn from this experience to just handle this subject with a lot less importance, he'll realize he made it too obvious it's true he's enhanced when he droned on like this. Not that being enhanced is a problem when someone works as an athlete, PED's are not the evil thing laymen think they are, they help athletes recover and get better so they can improve their quality of life, all while helping them avoid constant injuries.
After seeing his brother’s ufc debut and the fact that there’s a chemist in his family it’s pretty obvious at this point, he needs to just ignore the conversation
Who’s the chemist in his family?
@@onlymemphis8100 his dad
@@TheConfusedTaco I thought it was his brother?
@@TheConfusedTaco his dad was also in jail for like 20 years
@@MrCaptainTea both. His brother is a pharmacist/chemist and his dad is also a pharmacist who was convicted of felony level fraud on top of that and served years in prison.
“ Have you been to Africa” 😂 there’s a 1000 times more twiglets than ngannu’s! Usman is full of 💩
This was something I was curious about. I wasn’t sure if Africa had plenty of people on steroids for some odd reason.
@@caalmen1522 people in Africa still take a dump in the middle of a street
@@BadselS what does that have to do with anything? That happens in America too lol
@@KrimzunFlare American cities which most of us don’t consider part of America
@@JoeyCentral doesn’t matter what you consider or don’t consider. It’s still america lol
Great points on the injection site issue. Normally diabetic patients won't have marks/bruising unless they're on blood thinners but insulin needles are super tiny too, they normally get bruising from 25 gauge needles (used for heparin). He has like zero fat so injecting in the abdominal quadrants would suck! Injecting subcutaneous solutions intramuscularly would cause some problems too lol Great video and response bro! If they fight in England Leon's winning on the feet!
Usman slept well I see
Tony, you sound legit.
I feel like Joe was trying hard to have your back through this whole thing. ;)
Yup, Joe’s a real one.
Joe knows he's right
Never expected you here lol
After Joe tried to defend Jon Jones drug positive test results for so long, and Derek just trounced that whole narrative, I think Joe is pretty much convinced that Derek knows his shit.
I feel like the total opposite happened. He could have at the least mentioned that Derrick actually knows his shit. I think he for the 1st time he was kinda fake. But I'm going all on body language. But then he could just not want to stir up. Being that usman could kill you I wouldn't be making him mad
Geez. I watch a lot of crime shows and they always advise that when someone goes into so much detail it’s usually an indication of lying. If this story was true he would have just said, I’d some mark on my stomach due to a surgery and he goes on for days with a longwinded explanation.
Facts
Just playing devils advocate. Its a podcast that is supposed to go on for some time. If people didnt expand on things during podcasts they wouldnt have the regular long runtimes. To be fair, that would be the platform to further explain in more detail these types of stories.
@@user-qd9lh9qw4q totally understand to some extent, however the sheer length he went on determining what age/ grade his 'story' took place is a massively sign of lying. there's a great channel called deception detective who speaks to this a bunch : m.kzhead.info/sun/lJathdWAb6ONiGg/bejne.html
More plates more dates is one of the most informative channels out there. I've been subscribed for a couple years now and learned tons of knowledge. I've literally learned so much that I still know nothing if that makes sense. Lol There is so much more to learn in every video. Steroids and hormones etc is some pretty complicated stuff.
Love the Dunning Kruger reference. The more knowledgeable and competent you become in a field the more you become aware of what you don't know.
@@newtonianromance Truth.
Kinda an honor to get acknowledged at least Derek, this has been happening thousands of times especially in the last year or so. Both positive and negative
Facts. Joe f*cking Rogan said his name.
I really do think Usman was talking about MMA Guru.
It's an honour for Derek to mention someone, not the other way around bro
usman has typical butthurt roidhead attitude
Nah, it was an honor for usman to be acknowledged by Derek for his supraphysiological mental gymnastics
I love how after Rogan mentioned your name he then changed his tune because Rogan said your name with some respect behind it!
No he really didn’t lol
if joe wouldn’t have do that usman probably would’ve gone twice as hard
Put some respeCK on it
No
@@Xalashaska exactly!! Dude went from this mother fucker to my feelings were hurt
Someone said that Usman always sounds like he’s telling a scary story sitting around the campfire. Can’t unhear it
something we learned in clinical psych is when a dude is lying, they’ll try to compensate by giving way too many details. guys mad sus just from that mole story
But there are also people getting caught because they fk up details. It’s not clear evidence and should never be seen as such.
Yeah but every person is different usman is famous for his high intellectual wannabe presentation
Now i know how to be a better liar thanks👍🏻
Is this dudes in particular, or just people?
Wow amazing psychonalysis! truly great analytical work their, you must be right if your professor from a community college said so!
Love how he made it all about the 'pimples' and didn't address anything else 😆
"Have you been to Texas? There's a lot of guys that look like Lance Armstrong walking around!" Ok then, case closed 😆
Guru also pointed out everything else Derek did. Usman knows.
@@kintarooe8688 gurus video is one of the worst videos on ped use I’ve ever seen. Like it’s absolute shit. Derek’s is 100x better. Guru showed Usmans head and said it got bigger and then showed another picture of his head at a completely different angle. I lost brain cells watching it
When Colby pointed out Usman’s PED use, Usman would just deflect it with “why are you concerned with another man’s body?”
Hé makes liver king look like George Washington
Usmans response is just so non-sensical that he's basically admitting to using peds
Its impossible to have explosive power and also have Colby Covington esque cardio. Its one or the other. Hes gotta be on stuff.
@@mikegoodwin5951 nah it is possible but exceedingly rare it’s more so his back acne imo
@@mikegoodwin5951 the most correct argument
@@mikegoodwin5951 I wouldn’t say impossible. But I do feel where you’re coming from. I don’t disagree.
@@mikegoodwin5951 it is not impossible lol
"Everyone did not get the same deca cards" - Rogan
Underrated comment
4:44 Amazing how he can come up with that story and lie with a straight face (if he's actually lying). He should try to win the Iron Throne.
No Plates said they almost definitely aren't PED scars, so I don't know why all these comments are calling out Usman for fabricating a story that was probably true. Doesn't mean he's not on PEDs, but he's likely telling a true story. As for the PEDs specifically, of course he's going to lie until he retires, otherwise he'd be in deep shit.
Kamaru has denied, straight up looked at the camera then DENIED, denied grabbing the cage during fights. There's video evidence of his repeat offenses all the way back to when he was a TUF competitor... and those fence grabs have changed the course of fights. Why do you think, "he had never been taken down in the octagon before the Leon fight?" So, yeah. It fits the pattern to just lie about PEDs... we have no proof he is for sure on them, but he is clearly okay with cheating and lying about it.
i can understand him denying him grabbing the cage bc that’s almost a instinctive response to like clinch your toes or hands if your getting punched but he obv knows if he’s using peds i mean come on
He came up with the blackzillians, his cardio and endurance have went from not good to Lance Armstrong.... He was an above average wrestler his entire life, never was elite, couldn't make elite squads. His father and brother have doctorates in pharmacology. The same brother looks like an action figure. Marty has Increased hormone side effects in the same time frame. He has Increased joint wear and ligament/tendon wear often seen from ped use.... There's a ton of red flags... And EPO is very easy to get away with in the UFC. The way USADA tests you're rarely gonna catch EPO. They can catch metabolites of various anabolics but if you can mask or eliminate those they don't have a system in place to tell. In fact if in the beginning of bio marking for USADA if you come in hot but with the metabolites hidden then your baseline becomes known as one on peds. Stopping the peds would show something wrong as would over doing them. But keeping things right at the same level will have that person jacked and testing clean. The way USADA tests isn't that good, it's not Olympic level. It's more like probation officer level or just slightly better, but easily beaten. Laughably easy if you're even remotely intelligent. You just can't screw up your timing or you become Dillishaw...
Yeah, liars hate people who expose their lies. That’s what this video is.
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He has CHEATER MENTALITY, he is not afraid to cheat and it makes the PED accusations even MORE LIKELY
Easiest way to spot a liar is when they tell you about things that are vaguely connected to the actual topic with insane amount of detail. Sorta like Amber Heard describing the carpet.
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💯 all day
Was thinking the exact same, he just sounds like a liar...
@@ItzMalick do everyone a favour and just stop replying to nearly every comment. Thanks
"I tried steroids once" some real Rock vibes 🤪
This was awesome bro! Please dont stop these as the MMA guru and his followers agree and the ceo off epo
I think the biggest indicator over all is simply his performance level at such a low body fat percentage while maintaining muscle mass. He is so strong, yet still has cardio to go 5 rounds. This isn’t “1% genetics”. This is “1% genetics + enhancement”
With his two shot knees, makes you wonder how he maintains that mythic cardio and endurance
he's obviously juiced out the gills
And he’s 35 👀
Same with Colby minus the muscle mass.
@@RyderGroveSt without the muscle mass, you can have much more cardio naturally lmao
Haha love how he just randomly threw in "adrenaline".
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I think what he really wanted to say was "anadrol"
Yeah man when I get adrenalina, my biceps and traps just automatically grow an extra 3 inches
I laughed pretty damn hard at that one.
Anytime rogan mentions you by name and says you’ve been on his podcast, you have my immediate respect.
Please do a video on the downstream effects of lowing prolactin with caber etc
IDK bro he might be talking about me too, I been sniffing him out for quite some time and mentioned the stomach marks in my video. But hey maybe we're both dumbasses. Usman is clean as a whistle, his hour long campfire stories about how he got his stomach spots were so convincing of his innocence I have to concede.
Top Jew
Wheelchair god
hey mushed pea
Your reaction to usmans funeral was jewish levels
factos
On TUF, another fighter accused Usman of holding the fence. He got really mad and defensive despite there being literal video evidence of him holding it. If he’s on PED’s, he will never admit it. Even if there is clear evidence
I’ve cheated on matches been accused of it and gotten defensive. Looked at the tape and found out I indeed cheated. I’d never admit it to the guys face tho especially if he’s coming at me
@@micahjones2446 Totally honorable lying, bro.
@@micahjones2446 yeah, you're a pos liar. What does it change with Usman's situation?
@@micahjones2446 great example of what OP is saying
@@sananton2821 nothing honorable abt it. But wht did u think this was? Get your head out your manga and Sigma tiktoks. This is real life.
when he says adrenaline to why hes so shreded after the fight when hes on the cage ahaha
Been here since Derek had 29k, glad to see him grow :,)
Usmans manager seems to know A LOT about PEDs/EPO but he knows absolutely nothing about PEDs? You can tell he just made up this BS story. His body language is so obvious
What is he supposed to say, they all do PEDs.
I don’t know about that. Pretty weird story to make up. Doesn’t exonerate him but doesn’t mean the story is false
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@@ItzMalick If you took the time that you spend spamming people, and put it towards improving your content, you wouldn't have to spam to self-promote. Your content would promote itself.
There was also a rumor they gave khabib ACAIR
The best part was when Joe recognises you and for a second Kamaru’s jaw just drops.
WTF that did not happen. Derek said it’s stupid to assume Usman was talking about him and Derek doesn’t think he’s on peds
@@troy8231 Derek thinks he’s on roids wdym
I don’t think his jaw dropped lol
@@troy8231 he definitely thinks he's on peds
You should get your eyes checked buddy
Didn't know you were on JRE, will have to check it out
Joe smiling while saying he’s had Derrick on the podcast hhahahahaga love joe being a good interviewer and Derrick not letting old juice man get him down
When I saw Usman bring this up, all I thought was " I can't wait to see Derek's response to this" 😂😂
And now you are wishing absolute death upon Derick coz he doesn't align with your allegations.
@@Nawazaahr LOL Chill, why would I wish something like that on him? It's not that serious lol
@@Nawazaahr I still 100% believe usman is on the juice but I agree w Derek's points here
@@Theawakeningpopulistmovement People who "Believe" in something 100% without proof are the kinds that in given circumstances can even become suicide bombars, so wishing death is nothing.
@@Nawazaahr Man shut up, you must be super fun at parties 😂😂 go back to your basement
If Kamaru hadn’t brought this up, I never would have even known about his stomach scars. Another example of the Streisand effect 🤷♂️
Except Joe did...
Speak for yourself. If you go on posts mentioning usman you’ll see tonnes of people mentioning it (before the jre episode was released)
Streisand effect? What’s that?
@@theyoungfool.1895 there was an attempt to “justify and explain” why the scars on usman exist and lay any of the speculation to rest. Him making a defence for the scars, regardless of whether or not the story is true just strengthens the spotlight more. The intent is to try and kill the attention surrounding the topic but instead it magnifies the awareness and basically becomes the subject people will take away from the entire discussion.
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I’m actually not sold on the backne for people in mid 30s. For some reason I’ve been getting acne more on my chest and back lately and I’m 36. I don’t take any supplements and my body has been changing at this age as well. I’ve been getting broader and muscular. I do work out 5 days a week but I’ve been doing that since my 20s
Derrick's traps got huge, that new cycle/gear and hard work are putting out results.
I just thought his reactionary response only made him look worse. Your Dad was a pharmacist, your brother is a pharmacist but you never even think about PEDs, right, got it. I don’t think anyone who knows anything about PEDs thought those marks he went on about relevant to PED use either. An incredibly talented, tough, dedicated individual regardless, but most people don’t improve their stamina and power as they age, especially when they’re all ready an elite professional athlete. I just want to say to all the haters and threat makers who keep isolating parts of what I said and taking it out of context and personally attacking me and parts of what I said, AS AN OPINION NOT CLAIMING FACTS,and going as far and foolish to say that I’m racist that your comments here are all welcome and appreciated. At this point it’s gotten so ridiculous it’s almost amusing 😎🫶🙏
Reminded me of Leanbeefpatty who made a response to the accusations and although I believe she's 100% natural I just can't believe her when she says she only recently found out about steroids. People hit the gym for years, follow people on the fitness industry and then tell you they believed everyone was natural... sure, buddy.
most people don’t improve their stamina and power as they age? What?
Yes they do.
@@orthodoxjimmy 4 months into the gym, and a random guy offered me oral steroids 😂
You right matt. I just think his reactionary response told everybody what they needed to know. Kamaru couldve took the high road and not feed into the controversy and whatever his story was. Im just saying “when you find yourself in a hole 1st thing to do is to stop digging” but he had to call derek a dumbass which is factually not true. Derek does good work.
It kills everybody that doesn't like Derek that all he does is present facts and evidence, never accuses anybody of anything and always makes it crystal clear to normal people that what he says is his opinion. They'd love it if he got all angry and aggresive and acted like his word is gospel but he never does that. Shows you how insecure most people really are
If you watch the video, Derek points out usman wasn’t talking about him
@@NPFfumbi Derek points out that Usman likely wasn't talking about him because of the needle videos that show the spots changing, chances are Usman himself has never seen the videos and was filled in on them, probably exaggeratedly by someone close to him. The comment was more about guys like Liver king and the likes who come out refuting his information when nobody is directly accusing them of anything. If you know you're a clean athlete and have the data to prove it and someone accuses you of using steroids that's the highest compliment an athlete can receive.
Mma fighters are some of the most insecure people on earth
Because egotistical people absolutely DESPISE anything that scrutinizes their "creditability". The fact is where there is smoke there is often fire. With this guy there certainly is ALOT of super physiological smoke lmao.
@@pokeman5000 „The study provides a variety of ways of quantifying this phenomenon: For instance, false news stories are 70 percent more likely to be retweeted than true stories are. It also takes true stories about six times as long to reach 1,500 people as it does for false stories to reach the same number of people. When it comes to Twitter’s “cascades,” or unbroken retweet chains, falsehoods reach a cascade depth of 10 about 20 times faster than facts. And falsehoods are retweeted by unique users more broadly than true statements at every depth of cascade.“ In this day and age it’s to easy to create smoke. I only care if I see fire. There’s smoke about lizard people, a flat earth, a hollow earth, adrenocrome(was that the word), …
The fact the he brings up the PEDS then goes on a rant about his college days never actually addressing anything 😂😂😂 CEO of EPO
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@@ItzMalick Bro, you’re a low budget Mukbang channel.
I feel a lifetime drug free guy would just have a "no" and not let it get to them. I won't look at him differently if he was on gear since he's a pro athlete but if everyone was on gear like many think I feel he would have an advantage getting USADA off his back and beating tests.
7:38 Derek’s reaction lol
For me its the "you go to africa.. what do you find bro.." having done MMA in Africa and knowing 90% are juiced af is so funny
7:22 to 7:30 . when my gym bro questions my gear stack after hitting a PR every workout the past month
Kamaru is a HORRIBLE liar, with that mole scar scratching story 😂
fr what a bs story too
I just couldn’t stop from working so hard ya know so I ended up tearing my warts off from wrestling so hard ya know.
i once scratched something that looked like a mole been 2 or 3 years it has the same scars i believe as kamaru, i don't think he's lying.
@@omarmosaad9878 that isn’t even what he said the scars came from. He said the doctor used nitrogen to burn them off and then because he trained and did some mat work that they were ripped off blah blah blah honestly just a fake ass story.
Except Derek agreed with him.
Derek got under Kamaru's skin, like the tip of a needle. He could have delt with it better.
Walked right into his traps.
I see what you did there 😂
Under rated comment
Kamaru got under Derek's skin as well. Looked like he was about to cry when Usman called him a dumbass lol
Very underrated comment 2 puns in one 💪💪🔥
Holy shit for Derek. before it was some followers and I always knew channel would blow up. Now it’s three times the amount I saw initially congrats!
When you're not taking something, you take the accusations as compliments
Why does Usman always whisper-talk like a self-obsessed *discount batman* who's divulging the covert schemes of Gotham's mafia?
im glad someone else pointed this out. No one ever talks about that but ive always noticed it and cringed about it to be honest
@@nunyabizwacks6711 genuinely, i see comments about that in almost EVERY video of Usman talking.
Cuz he is a wanna be afro American and posing 'll cool j style. His brother does the same identity issue from being from sub Sahara Africa .
Shit is so annoying. To me, it's like he's trying to come off as some wise, fighting guru who has all this knowledge and is a king who is above everybody else. Yeah he's talented and all that but I bet in his mind, he sees it as something way different. If that makes sense
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dude lied so much and was a lil too happy with the loss
I think that’s a natural reaction to such a devastating loss. He was invincible a week ago, now the entire world is making memes of him being put to sleep like a baby. I think his “happy” act is pretty much the best face to put on even though it’s obviously killing him inside
His ego couldn't take the loss so he overcompensates by saying he never cared in the first place.
@@Epitome_ Exactly, I think you’re right on the money
@@worldrecordmethod7119 or he just doesnt care lmao he accomplished way more than you and leon, your just some talker on the internet
@@xavthr9049 So are you, Usman don’t need you to defend him, he most likely doesn’t give two shits what people on the internet think.
I think your previous video was absolutely brilliant...I also feel this video was a wonderful response.
Remember his page was like 500k subs now over an milli, proud!
Regardless of whether his story is true or they are injection sites, rambling on and on about a story to combat one small point of a larger argument just makes him look more guilty.
Regardless of what he says, you probably think he’s guilty
This guy still thinkinJones and Brock are naturals.
It’s not “one small point” the main reason people think Usman is juiced (other than being fucking ripped and dominant) is because of the bumps he had. Regardless of if it’s true or not, that’s like the only legit side affect of PEDS that Usman show’s, so it will always go back to that “one small point”
@@clintondiala8949 its because its painstakingly obvious
@@clintondiala8949 😎This! Like I usually say, the males that are always calling, "juiced", on Men are 100% the ones who are in the Gym crying when they see Jacked guys. Try as they may, they simply can't ketch a break or a gain, no matter how much their Spotter helps them lift. Always makes me chuckle. Poor bastards! Try Synthol🦾
I really believed Usman wasn’t on anything UNTIL he made this ridiculous explanation on Joes Podcast. I couldn’t listen to that shit without laughing. He would’ve been better off not saying shit about it.
What?
@@tonycrabtree3416 English? Do you speak it?
@@tdg710 what?
@@tonycrabtree3416 more beer? More whiskey?
Literally same this explanation is ridiculous
Anyone know what kind of shirt Derek is wearing. I’m looking for some good fitted t shirts and I love the raglan cut shoulder style. Is it YoungLa?
"My brother is a pharmacist... I'm surrounded by people for my whole life, who are tempted by/informed about/ or possibly use steroids. I'm determined to become the best in the world. I have an unattainable amount of muscle... but I've never even been aware of peds!!!"
In this episode of JRE he also says he walks at 200 pounds 6 or 7% body fat before cutting any weight and still expects people to believe he's not on the juice, I think he doesn't even remember what being natural is like.
He’s def on gear. I do wonder what those marks are tho. Maybe just acne?
The fact that he admitted he can't run because his knees are fucked up and still has relentless cardio is a dead giveaway.
You know he could swim or ride a bike lol
@@markscott8214 Those aren't even close to improving your cardio.
Huh?
@@prinniesforeveryone321 Do you even lift bro? Do you not train ufc?
@@prinniesforeveryone321 obviously you’ve never swam laps
Where can we watch the newest Derek and joe rogan podcast ep? It’s not on Spotify
Why do people deny this? Nate Diaz said "Everyone is on steroids" and look at how many people were popped for using in the past decade? Hell in the past 5 years? If course he was using. The way kamaru talks tells you hes full of himself. Play the dumb role or innocent role and people will look past it right kamaru? When he tells stories he acts like he was oblivious to everything, even though he was champ for over 1,000 days, so obviously he knew what he was doing.
"This ermm, this fucking dumbass guy" "Oh you mean Derek??" "Yeh this ermm, this fucking dumbass guy" *Crying Laughing Emoji x3*
Joe called Usman out so hard with that 😂
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Both Izzy and Usman have reacted angrily to the accusations you hafta wonder if there isn't some truth to it. If it wasn't true you wouldn't feel the need to respond so militantly
And if ur natty people saying you aren’t is the biggest complement. If you hastily defend or get angry you’re on shit.
Who hasn't? Paulo did as well at first and Yoel simply ignored it. Everyone gets pissed
well if you were actually natty and someone said you weren't it could hurt your reputation so it would piss u off
@@AJD293 that may apply to bodybuilding but not fighting. Everybody thinking your a cheating fighter when you arent is a reason to get upset
Nah that’s cap. Whenever I’m accused of something that I worked for, and they claim I took a shortcut if he pissed. I don’t allow ppl to talk about me like that, especially if someone’s just making things up. Sure in Usmans case he could be on something, but if he’s not he’s justified in being upset
I’ve had a mole removed with surgery… and I’ve had skin tags burned off. At least for me, I never had hanging flesh that needed to heal… it’s just a wound…
The fact that he's calling you a "dumbass" speaks for itself Kamaru yousman
The amount of times he’s been tested for peds is insane. Either stfu or get a better tester
Someone once said Usman sounds like he's telling scary stories around a campfire and it's just 100% accurate. So weird when he laughs and talks normal then goes back to the campfire voice.
Damn right. Yes. Everybody can see through it. Usman is a juicer. If a fighter is so good and if he is natural , they look like Colby add khabib. Since they train so much it's not easy to put on muscles.
@@kaladinstormblessed765 but lets be honest kamara usman is a black west african guy. And we all know that west african blacks are the most athletically muscular race on the planet so it must be a combo of elite genes plus PEDs
The campfire voice is so bad or cringe as the kids say.
@@kaladinstormblessed765 false, some guys are more muscular and more explosive but they tire out faster. The reason why Usman is probably on peds is that he's strong, explosive and has good cardio at the same time
@@botondbakos5954 he is not explosive. But he is strong and good good cardio
Usman always with that fake vibe around him, you can tell he is an easy going liar.
In his head he believes it to be true
Even the way he talks with the fake whispering is fake af
Yeah like is he trying to do the chilled/deep joe rogan voice?
He thinks he is so slick like all compulsive liars do, he really thinks people won’t see through it
Yeah always seems to come off fake. That video about how happy he was after the loss was just intolerable. Every word sounded like bs, fake positivity.
Question for Derek imo people who inject in the stomach are most often doing sub q injections which are a slower release, athletes who use gear seem to either go for orals or short esters prop, or suspensions. The reason is too get it out of their body faster. Wouldent a sub q injection make the gear release slower and make it more likely to picked up by a drug test rather than doing intermuscular injections and knowing the half life’s and when it will be out vs subq and having other factors that delay the release
The way Joe said “mhmm” at 5:46 you can just tell he’s over the story already 😂
Usman so salty, Joe just laughs 😂 🧂
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The fact that this mole story goes on for so long makes one think he’s concocted the whole thing. Told it to himself and built on it and crafted it.
i actually have one of those on my arm and i made the same scar by picking on it, just like he describes... take that as you will
Yeah it's full of half truths and you can see he's trying to sell it
@@cimi93x How is this useful?
Yeah, especially when he said "I was sitting do.. I mean I was showering and looked down" sounds like he forgot what he's lied about
First rule about lying don't create some crazy elaborate story just say something simple simplicity goes a long way. This dude is definitely lying.
@6:12 can u show us the clip you cut out?
Usman is diverting the attention to an accusation he can explain. A straight up cop out. I still think Usman is on the juice even if his story is true.
Usman hater's 😂
@@JohnDoe-gk5xj usman simp
Y'all have no proof except what you think 😂
Colby meatriders 😂
usman on juice 100% easily
How dare Marty Juiceman the CEO of EPO insult Chad Delt Lord Chemist Dr Derek MD
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everybody did not get the same Deca cards!!😂
More plate for dates and Joe Rogan are pretty much all I watch on my free time
Joe is a beast for telling him straight up that he knows the guy. "So hey, watch what you say."
thats not a beast sorry lolol. joe is a grown ass man with power, lots of it lol. damn near gets worshipped. also, its common knowledge that he knows Derek because the vids are out there lol.
joe is far from a beast. He is a beta male shill
@@lowlowseesee Didn't seem like Kamaru knew that.
@@lowlowseesee Didn't seem like Kamaru knew that.
@@bigmanbarry2299 why did you copy that other dude's comment? LMAO
His response was just like Walter Walt anytime he tried to lie to his family 😂 so elaborate
Yeah rip Saul he’s in prison now
Lol good catch. And I'm just listening like Skylar White like this 🤨😐
Good old Walter Walt
@@OFFICIALCLIPSS 😂😂😂
So you calling him an evil genius
Can you please do a video on the Celsius Drink 🙌
Does Derek train(fighting)? Would love to see this exhibition match.
He is literally on HGH....its not a secret, he just makes them money
He looked the same at 20 years old -_-
@@thegoat525 buy goggles mate
:clown_face: :clown_face: :clown_face:
@@ilijapilipovic8908 100%, there are thousands of Usmans and Ngannou looking walking around in Africa, who look like that with 0 nutrition and money to afford any drugs, life isn't fair bros, genetics are real.
Way too easy to test for hgh, probably some research chemical heis dad bought from the Chinese pharmaceutical industry