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Imagine going back and changing the time line , where big ,pac, freaky tah, big L pun , etc was still alive till this day. Would've been nice to see those guys in the barber chair to talk their shit. People forget that we lost these dope artists when they was still young as hell.. never had the chance to sit back and enjoy their success in their 30s and up.
Great comment and well said. Some of these other dude's may never have emerged.
There’s a time line where wu tang still alive
I'm glad you mentioned Freaky Tah. He never gets mentioned when legends who have passed get talked about. And he most definitely is a legend.
@@CheifR0ckawhat that dude did that is legendary
@@mond921 You got a point… I’ll wait here for the answer
He downplayed it. It was more serious than what he is letting on. But like another brother said you have to read between the lines. Smart on Buck's part.
Yeah he downplayed it & he said something different from what Starang said.
Facts, this situation was very serious. They left Starang out on a limb with no retaliation.
@@supremelytechnical8028 you know one thing I do admire about the Bootcamp clik is that they don’t put out any kind of negative information from within there clik, it still amazes me that out of all those street dudes they don’t utter anything related to drama within themselves & that is very rare for a rap group or should I say a group of hardcore street rappers, just about all other groups had drama & they will speak on it in interviews but not the Bootcamp clik…notice Starang said it was another BCC member with him that left out & then Biggies crew came in BUT Starang wouldn’t say who it was, also many don’t know that Rock shot & paralyzed a dude on the streets of Brooklyn back in the 90’s BUT you NEVER hear them mention it….I know it happened before social media but still he was Heltah Skeltah & I never heard anybody doing an interview even ask Rock about that.Even about the clash with Mystical & his Bootcamp clik back in the day in Atlanta Buckshot & his crew won’t speak on it , they will give a broad answer kinda like this incident when Starang got jumped in the studio…..Math & his team didn’t press Buck either like “ Yo who was in the studio with Starang that day & dipped out on him “
They turn their back on Starang...And did nothing to respond of notice....All Boot Camp/ Decept talk blah blah disappeared...A member of Smiff Wesson set him up...
Shout out to Gat… He’s been stepping up his podcast game💯
About time because to me all he does is shout out Brooklyn.
He has no character and not needed@@wesleyrobinson4949
@@wesleyrobinson4949 🤣
@@wesleyrobinson4949 lol he didn’t need to shout out Brooklyn in this one because Brooklyn was sitting right next to him
@@joojoobawthat's all he does whether Brooklyn is next to him or not. He never ask any logical or intelligent questions.
The OGC - NO Fear 🔥🔥🔥 Song & Video is still Classic till this day !!! 💯
love that video n song
Starrang Was Nice AF Back Then 🔥
Starang definitely was da nicest out of da BCC
Every time it’s gloomy outside and it rains that song goes throw my head! No BS!
@@originoomwizi because it’s on “Da Storm”? 😂
Buckshot was that real rapper Microphone rapper/MC. And his classic with Funk flex video "ain't no joke" is is timeless and raw.
I watched that video over and over back in the spring of 97..... Brings back memories.
Ain't No Joke and Follow My Lead were crazy fire. I still bump that track
@@NJGhost34 Love that track. If you can go on here (KZhead) and look up the Follow My Lead Remix and listen to it! Mellow song and laid back and Buck at his best! Love those old Buckshot tracks from the late 90s, classic. I had a full version of I Aint No Joke on CD back in the days and I wonder if I can still find it, it had a third verse on there and the song is straight FIRE! The video was dope but he didn't spit all the verses on there, the long version is crazy.
I remember the pistol whipping story vividly. The reason why Biggie wasn’t there was because he had a broken leg from the car accident. From what I remember reading about this, Biggie DID sanction it. And one of the goons that ran into the studio had Biggie on his cellular screaming at Starang saying if he didn’t have a broken leg, he would be there personally. I believe it was The Source that reported that.
I doubt he sanction it. We would heard about Jeru into chit. More chit happen after B.I.G. died. Look at #RuckerPark #Hot97
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BIG sanctioned the attempted hit on Dogg Pound and em,too.BIG had power by then
Rockness did kick dude in his ass in the video and tossed his shades in the crowd. Idk what Buck talking about..😂
I was on union street after that happened and what dudes were saying from Seth low was them A-team dudes ran up into the studio. Buck locked the door to a room while Tec n Steele hid under tables. Stars he was the only one standing and they jumped him. My brother asked Buck what was up n he downplayed it 🤦♂️ Nothing was done about it. Shout out to Starange! Always been a real one!
Even Lil Kim took a shot at Duck Down "yall listen to Buck..WTF...bump Biggie in the truck"
She was a fan on buckshot big time prior to the beef. He hes ily influenced her pre-biggie flow
Didn't Junior Mafia's boys catch Starang Wondah in the studio? I remember that. It was behind that "No fear" video. Bootcamp felt Biggie bit that line "you could be as good the best of them..." Ninja man or Shabba Ranks spit that line on a dancehall track spit years before either Biggie or Top Dog big kahuna spit that. Was a huge fan of both Biggie and Bootcamp back then so I remember vividly.
The real ones still rocking with the channel #notapwater Salute BODMON
Homie said Montell Williams… im dead. 😩😩😩
That is how he do it.😂😂😂😂
I fuck with the whole Duck Down super heavy, from back in the day, way more than Bad Boy. But I have to say, Buck is trying to rewrite history here. It wasn't just a quick little shot in a video, they dissed Biggie in the lyrics. "Turn a wack rapper's day into his worst nightmare. I scare, petty Mc's who claim they got gats. Frontin wit hoes in videos with pimp hats. But the fact still remains that you're just a stain on the bottom of my boots." Starang was rapping this as they showed Big in the video and that's why Starang got pistol whipped. Duck Down's whole image was about how thoro they were, and they were, but they dissed, got smacked up, then backed off, and that's a stain on their image and legacy.
💯. That's how they got shut out the game for real. After that diss and Starang losing clout, Heltah Skeltah got busy and everyone got mixed feelings of fear and loss of juice. The commercial move to hip hop was used to keep them out the mainstream. They would have stayed on top if it wasn't for the pistol whipping
No fear. Omg. Beyond classic
Starrang Wondah Was Nice AF Bacck Then 🔥🔥💯‼️
Yeah but Starang suffered the most out the Camp. Which I believe is why he never decided to do solo stuff with Duckdown or OGC never decide to drop a third album either. It had to be the reason, but they still was making albums as Boot Camp Clik! Starang does music else where, I honestly wished there was a OGC album in the world
sean price said different rip
"how many mc's must get dissed?"
classic song
Is it just me, or did he not make any sense at all
Strokes got to him...one of the nicest mcs ever at one time
Shout out to my man at the door. 😎
Ever since that shit was about to pop off with Bigga and Tek? I don’t blame security being at the door somebody 💯! Glad Bigga gone man he was a fucking cancer
Tru
First time I saw black moon was a show in the BX. I thought they was dope but the crowd wasn’t feeling them, they got boo’d, while fat Joe and king sun was performing a m80 went off in the bathroom ending the whole show! 😂
BUCK, ROCK and Rest up RUCK🕊🥷🕊
"They stil around 🤔". Whoa deep
Why he keep trying to deflect to the Tupac vs Biggie beef. Naw talk about BCC vs Biggie
So many unanswered questions in this situation. Buck gave clues. But, it’s still a grey area for a lot of fans. Don’t leave it up to fans to dictate the narrative. Most of them don’t even have genuine love. I think BCC needs a real sit down behind closed doors-internally. After that, they need a similar sit down with Junior Mafia. If they leave it as is in this Information Age, the “People” will exacerbate the situation and make things resurface at the expense of their legacy.
Well said. Good comment.
Yeah But People still stand by saying no names(Snitching) some things need to remain private.
@dessoj01 “….at the expense of their legacy” is NONSENSE . It will go down in the annals of history as rumored. Just like any other story with missing details. People can’t change the REALITY of history with CONJECTURE. The rumor will always resurface no doubt, however it would likely remain just that.
Starang said in interviews before that someone from boot camp was in the studio that day and didn’t help him. I wasn’t there but I keep hearing it was Buckshot 🤷🏾♂️
Me too , I heard it was Buckshot who set up Starang.
I don't believe it was Buck that set him up. Why would Buck do that they are family. Now yes I did heard Buck was in the studio at that time. Honestly what the hell is Buckshot going to do when there a Big ass bodyguard and his crew with guns. Now I am sure Buck or Starang probably had a blinky but not enough to go against biggie bodyguards. They was outnumbered.
@@frank-xp6pj tek?
Oyi peeps! No disrespect yeah but! I've been to the (S.O.B's.Sean.P) tribute a few times yeah! Oyi, the whole (BuckDownCamp), there! Chillin' witme new chick and look to the left and (Starang) is setting in the booth next to me! Was mad cool! 💩All I'm saying is I'm 54yrs 💩 😂"BootCamp-4Life"! P!🙈🙊🙉💪🏿🙏🏿✌🏿
TEK was close to biggie..Not buckshot
Raw Fusion said that hook before all of them.
C gutta d roc and money L did starang wondah dirty than after that they put him on the phone with biggie big was on some mafia don ish loooool but buck smif n Wessun had a relationship with biggie and his team but ruck and rock ogc felt away cause they lined starang in D&D studio
But like Buck if Stang would’ve kept it cool and been like my bad none of that would’ve happened Gutta and Money L stayed looking to hands on somebody
@@MrWARBUCKS24 facts money l and gutta was with all the smoke for bi they think junior mafia was rap crew that was big street team and his goons transformed whenever disrespected popped off
@@TheBulletzgottishow20Nope JM wasn’t a just a rap group it went beyond Kim Cease and them Money L Gutta Roc Rube and a few others was on go time
@@MrWARBUCKS24 facts casino mike maino brother mouse zeke nut t black jus buck a lot of streets dude was running with big from the stuy to the ville
So basically ya man got smacked up and y'all didn't do shit 😅
Buck tripping 😂
3:16 did he say montell Williams an not Jordan lol
It had nothing to do with Biggie being hot. Dudes in NY weren’t feeling Biggie with the whole “player/mafioso” persona and BCC wasn’t feeling it along with Q Tip and Wu Tang. Another rapper named U.G.O. took shots at Biggie too. Biggie got a lot of flack, believe it or not, from ny rappers because a lot of heads thought he was somewhat commercial.
Yup
Alot of rappers weren't feeling Jay Z either for the same reasons. As soon as you start looking like your too good for the hood and you might take off and not look back - they hate you. Big was making moves. So the success definitely played a part in the hating. And i would call it hating because dont forget. Ppl like G Rap were doing mafioso and player raps before Big. But it was that particular brand of polish that Bad Boy was doing with the direct samples and just an over abundance of luxury lifestyle pushing that the rest of the Mcs weren't digging. But lets be real there was definitely jealousy there because the formula was successful. Jeru and everybody was taking shots. It was a royal rumble vs Big at one point lol RIP 🙏🏽 to the illest 🕊 🎩
Cause we was dabbling in some west coast style yell
Same with Nas in the Esco era
@@futureflavors205Jeru might’ve be the most jealous he lost his girl to somebody in Bad Boy camp then Biggie took his beat and made 10 crack commandments
Is it me or was nothing answered…. And that’s cool but I did not hear any answers to the question…. Great interview
We all love trouble. We played the game right? so many many colors involved. Let’s be fair. The outcome is what it is at the end of the day we win let’s play “pause “I mean make that money
I hate when these dudes be talking in circles a lot of times.
Nah, That Shit was Serious!
I love this episode! BYE BYE Drink Champs!!!! 😈💯
Who was the Preme of Best Out? Asking for a friend
They came at ODB, & Biggie, on “Soundbwoy buriel”. A year before I still don’t get why they dissed Biggie. I know why they went at ODB, that was some real street stuff
Big was that dude and niggas was hating
OBD? Never heard about that one. Why the beef?
@@fakeezi51 He had issues with "Brooklyn Zoo" guys about him calling his crew by the same name afaik. Listen to the song, Tek is talking about him(Dirt Mcgirt) ODB was disrespectful which he used to be from the drinking. I think his beef was more about Tek then the whole Bootcamp cause that was a Bed-stuy issue
Trust...they was not gone win against the Wu...they crew was just too deep. The one's that rapped was just a 3rd of them smh.
@@RealDealy oh wow! Soundboi burriel?
somethings dont need to be in the history books but i get it
Your jewelry you can keep it. That be our lil secret. What's Beef
Big ended up with Pac jewellery from Quad
@@CDB51416. The Whats Beef line was referring to Strang Wonder.
Biggie & The Diddler waited till after PAC died to rap it though 😆
@@computablu. The line was about what Buck Shot was talking about in this video. Not about Pac. 🤦🤦
@@mistermay7986 no it wasn't he had Pac jewelry on in pics ..the Boot Camp beef was older he was probably passed that.. the line that went at them was.. _"what I'ma hitchu with you mfs better duck"_ on Ready to die...
It was more 2 that story
Is the guy standing at the front door of the shop looking out. Is he security?
Stop swallowing BBC 👍
What video is buckshot talking about?
Ogc no fear
@robny716 thanks bro, I haven't seen that video since it was out 🤣
This story is suspect. Im from Long Island NY and i was taped in with a credible L.I. Mc who was popping during this era and he told me the brother from Boot Camp click was set up by someone in his own click. I believe it because honestly Brooklyn cats are grimy and they will rob,kill , and still from their own mothers,fathers ,brothers and sisters we all no this when it comes to how they give it up. Buck Shot i love you but stop the delusional bullshit. Boot Camp had people that were close to Big and Pac. I remember hearing even after he got pistoled whip in D&D studio he went to the infamous NYC club the tunnel all lumped up. That is crazy.
Brooklyn so grimy that we like the only borough not to kill a hip hop legend. Think about that. Queens done killed JMJ Chinx & Freaky Tah. BX killed Scott LA Rock - 1st major hip hop murder. Can’t say Staten Island but…look at every where else…Chicago, LA, ATL, Houston, Miami etc. As bad as BK is, we never took out any legends.
@@dessoj01bro. U don't have to equate everything to music. Most ppl in Brooklyn are not rappers or affiliated with the music business
@@kayadavid1037 I’m just highlighting the fact that we haven’t gone as low as these other killers from other cities. Now that’s grimy
@@dessoj01 I understood what you were doing the 1st time I read it & im still saying that you can’t equate everything back to some rap shit. Rappers ain’t evn 1 % of the population. Not in Brooklyn not In NYC. Not anywhere on earth. We gotta stop living vicariously through rappers.
@@kayadavid1037 ummm, I’m commenting under a video about hip hop. You too. lol
Around the way? Buc from Franklin and Union
People hearing but not listening
Bucktown!!!!
Buck definitely downplayed this situation, this was very serious to the point of violence. Starang Wondah is the only one who kept it 💯 on the situation. Unfortunately he was also the one who caught the brunt end of the exchange.
Damn whole time it was Gene Deal who did it lol
Why you bring this up?
What exactly happened?
Please stop with the songs bro they not it. I can't help but cringe listening to you on a track it's uncanny. Respectfully tho
Lmao 🤣😂👍🏾
I skip past that shit immediately 😅
No fear in my eyes .. no tears in mama cries.. hard to say goodbye... all eyes on me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😭😭😭
Hilarious 😅
Tap 5x. Problem solved 😂😂😂
Nah they were hating big time. I remember when everyone had it out for BIG. He was so popular and equally talented. Many rapoers felt they couldnt shine, cause he eclipsed everyone. If that was your "boy" from bedstuy he wouldnt have been a parody in your video.
They had a sign said " Piggy Smallz"....Buck keeping it pg13...Heltah Skeltah was ready to go Magnum Force style
Buck knew better lol. What did he think would happen?
MATH SINGING NOW?? NAWWW B THAT AINT IT BRO
Bootcamp was jealous of biggie
Don't ask someone that wasn't there in the studio interview Strang wondah
#OVERFLOWTV
“Montell Williams was hot around that time” lmao…..you mean the talk show?
Knock ✊ it off Buck Shot 😂
So who got pistol whipped?
Everything is not fun n jokes
This brotha has gotta be kin to Rakim…FRFR!
HOW? Rakim is never that animated. This dude is loud and energetic. You don't know, or haven't seen Rakim in any capacity!
They def look similar
I'd say sticky fingerz
Shop just get emptier and emptier
Why is that?
We all from the same borough? Stop bro
Someone in boot camp is lying
I fuk w Buck but he downplayed it. I rocked w Boot camp and hated bad boy.. i ddnt like Biggie music, player hater n those terms was an ick of mine. Even BIG said don't say player hater no more. Rmmbr hit'em up video had a BIG impersonator too, the wave was to Diss a more successful label bc lets face , Boot camp wasn't making the paper Bad boy was making. Still respect to BCC , they raised me musically, I def chose sides. I love BIG music now too.
They didn't get that $10 Milly like Puffy got from Clive Davis so you can never catch up. They did it independently and they stand on it proudly
Buck shot lives
Buck you don't even believe yourself.......
I call 🧢
Who got pistol whipped?..
Starang wunduh DUCK 🦆 ASS FROM OGC
Starang
I heard a Bronx Producer instigate a part in that whole mess
@@stephenheath8465 starang ain’t know that dude was lining him up he sat in the studio with him and rock left minute before the situation so he was in d&d studio dolo
@@stephenheath8465 Who Showbiz?
Bruh you dont have to speak in code on everything.
Some things are best unanswered because if not, you sound like a hypocrite. Plus, people need to stop using the excuse of “I was young”. No, you run your own label and you a bad business decision by putting the video out.
Who got pistol whipped
Starang Wonda
He said Monroe Williams 😅😅😅😅 he meant Monte’s jordan
Monte's?
We all seen Pac death row East interview. It wasn’t all peace.
There’s was a rumor that Dr.Period allegedly called Rip Biggie and gave the drop on the BCC
Believe half of what you see, NONE OF WHAT YOU HEAR.