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my biggest fear is drowning. I can't imagine being trapped between hundreds of people, being crushed against a metal wire with literally no room to breathe or for your lungs to expand. it's terrifying to think about
@lu-xf3ij4 жыл бұрын
Same, I am so claustrophobic I probably would have died from the sheer panic alone. I can't imagine how horrible it must have been to be there.
@BlueJWay9993 жыл бұрын
Yo I’m afraid being trampled
@AmeliaRosalinaTheHedgehog3 жыл бұрын
Atleast drowin is quicker then this
@cmf47062 жыл бұрын
@@cmf4706 Two full lungs full and you just pass out then obviously die, these poor folk didn't have that, horrible death.
@paulanthony5274 Жыл бұрын
And then being pushed back by people that are supposed to help you, just when you think you made it. Pure horror!
@ingobordewick64809 ай бұрын
My 2 brothers and my brother in law were there, i watched on tv hoping they were ok , When they came home i hugged them and cried. God knows what it was like for the families who lost loved ones that day , god bless them all , the 96 the survivors and the families , and Liverpool FC ❤
@Getyabootsoffskinny4 жыл бұрын
96 survivors? So ur saying like 40k ppl died, I think u got that wrong
@avatakeo2 жыл бұрын
@@avatakeo I think the 96 were injured but eventually recovered
@blessinglourdes10512 жыл бұрын
96 people died...
@psihopatasick-touch26652 жыл бұрын
@@psihopatasick-touch2665 he didn’t use commas, calm down
@SauceWizard92 жыл бұрын
@@avatakeo he didn’t use commas
@SauceWizard92 жыл бұрын
One thing I have learned from this and other crowd crush disasters is to simply avoid events with crowds this large, if possible. This has completely scared the shit out of me, to the point that I am okay with that decision.
@missbraindamage3 жыл бұрын
I wish i knew in the 80s i had situation happen like this
@Iceis_Phoenix2 жыл бұрын
Seats?
@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Жыл бұрын
to see your loved ones go out that door and never see them again is heartbreaking not to fight a war but a football game, my deepest sympathy to the families
@norma35655 жыл бұрын
All because of bloody football.
@PalmBaiReader5 жыл бұрын
@@PalmBaiReader Hey what's wrong with watching 10 overpaid manboys chase a ball for 90 minutes?
@Gonken882 жыл бұрын
Sadly they were mainly youngsters,the youngest being 10 years of age....They were unlawfully killed and to date no one has been held accountable,its so wrong
@angiedawnmoody35192 жыл бұрын
The main cause of the disaster was the decision to change the match commander 3 weeks before the game from someone who knew what he was doing to someone who hadn't even been there for over 10 years. If they hadn't done that the gate wouldn't have needed to be opened because filtering of tickets and queuing would have happened as per the previous year.
@mrkipling22015 жыл бұрын
No. Tragedy happens in a perfect storm. The conditions had been building up to this. Treating people like cattle had been putting ever more dangerous obstacles up. If it didn't happen at Hillsborough it would have happened somewhere else. The cop in charge made 1 fatal mistake which not in a perfect storm he could have got away with. Everyone makes mistakes. The original fault lay in treating people like cattle. The subsequent fault lay in trying to cover it up. Which that cop never did. Only those above him. And as for The Sun, well that was just pure evil. Evil exists in our soceity if we let it.
@sjdover694 жыл бұрын
Simon Dover the only reason conditions were the way they were was down to hooliganism. Pens were introduced in the late 70’s because of the problems we had in the early and mid 70’s. In fact fences were introduced at the Leppings Lane end for the 77 cup semi final between Manchester United and Leeds. No other reason for them. And one of the main reasons for the disaster was the police viewing the Liverpool fans through the lens of hooliganism. That’s why they didn’t act immediately when people were getting crushed in pens 3 and 4. They thought it was a pitch invasion.
@mrkipling22014 жыл бұрын
@@mrkipling2201 Yep. Agree completely. But that makes my point, no matter the reason, treating people as less than human ends in disaster.
@sjdover694 жыл бұрын
But it was also my point that the fatal decision made on that day was never proved to have come from a bad place. Indeed it appears the person responsible bitterly regretted it. Approx. 10 mins elapsed when everyone thought nothing abnormal was happening given the normal behaviour of football fans. Around 2 mins of misunderstanding when mistakes where made by everyone except the Liverpool fans. Then everyone behaved well. Mistakes happen. He admitted it was a mistake. The two main problems were authorities in committees treating people like cattle, and the cover up / smear.
@sjdover694 жыл бұрын
Simon Dover definitely. As football fans, we were appallingly treated at games in the 80’s. We didn’t know any different though.
@mrkipling22014 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad Neil Fitzmaurice not only survived this ordeal but had the bravery to speak about it and document his experiences in this. He was such a light in Peep Show and afforded me many hearry laughs. He is a real talent and I'm sure he brings so much enrichment to the people he knows. I know he brings enrichment in his comedy and performances. Blessings to Neil always. I know in other ways how hard PTSD can be to live with, but it's worth the fight for life.
@CG-mj4vf2 жыл бұрын
@CG-mj4vf he plays Neil Guthrie in Waterloo Road
@peterwilliamskelhorn66754 ай бұрын
I do not have the words to express my sadness, awe and respect for all the Liverpool families affected by this. And those that fought so hard for justice should be honoured. Yet it seems that the honours go out to the criminals in suits and robes, all snuggling up together on their corrupt self adorned pedestals. I was struck when watching and reading about this how there were similarities to the cover up around my grt grandfathers death (along with 1197 others): Families waiting desperately at Lime Street station, statements written by the authorities, witnesses called only if they would say what the authorities wanted them to and the victims being blamed. That was the Lusitania Disaster, referred to by Lord Mersey (who clearly had some integrity as he waived his fee and resigned his post as wreck commissioner afterwards) calling it 'A dam dirty business'. Churchill, the so-called war hero, had a lot to answer for in that, but never did of-course. Thank you Liverpool families ~ you have done humanity an incredible justice in your own search for justice but showing the truth of the corrupt establishment to the world.
@gwyneth78126 жыл бұрын
Well said!!
@christinebrett48255 жыл бұрын
I was at Villa Park on this day & only heard that game had been stopped & then abandoned I was in Holte end with Everton (1st time at a big match for me) there were crowd surges that day which lifted you off your feet & carried you forward & then you retracted this was new to me I cannot imagine the horror at Hillsborough god bless.
@chrisrogers45485 жыл бұрын
Same here chris. i was with my dad supporting everton. altho i was just ten i realized something truly terrible had happened cos i saw everton fans crying on the train back.. horrible.
@Ryang4035 жыл бұрын
This is my new worst way to die after learning about this and what happened at Astro world last night. It sounds horrifying
@em-rw5qz2 жыл бұрын
And totally preventable. Avoid huge crowds.
@CDN19752 жыл бұрын
@@CDN1975 It's extremely statistically unlikely, so I wouldn't recommend avoiding all fun and good experiences in life just to avoid such an unlikely scenario. But hey, if you want to live in your safety bubble just stay home and spend all your time on the internet rather than enjoying your life, that's your decision. Best to never ride in a car again or leave your house too, since your likelihood of being in a car crash or shot is far greater.
@jennifermarie315811 ай бұрын
@@jennifermarie3158 all the things that can happen is depressing
@kellyfinch525710 ай бұрын
Was there as a forest fan that day we all watched in horror as the tradgedy unfolded r.i.p
@reeeeee56384 жыл бұрын
I cant imagine how horrific it was
@nicp26364 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you had to witness that.. did it take long for other fans in the stadium to notice what was going on exactly?
@hatpb3 жыл бұрын
No you didn't. You lot taunted the Liverpool fans singing "cheerio, cheerio, cheerio" to the injured people leaving on stretchers. Singing "what the fucking hell is that?" when Liverpool fans were being brought out of the pens. You didn't care about the injured, you were a disgrace that day!
@danhewett60862 жыл бұрын
@@danhewett6086 you haven't a clue Dan.
@1517the_year Жыл бұрын
Must have be difficult to cover such an intricate and lengthy issue in a short piece so job very well done.
@Matt_M5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like pure hell. My heart goes out to them.
@jakephillips44533 жыл бұрын
Words fail me as the tears flow. I can only say that #Justice has finally come. #Neverforgotten #Alwaysremembered.
@jimmykouba44945 жыл бұрын
God bless you all , i was at Celtic park on the day of the game between Celtic and Liverpool , the first game lfc played after that tragedy , 96 scarfs tied together round the pitch , i had to show mysupport somehow and im proud to say i was there , just a tiny little gesture in the grand scheme of things but i have supported the JFT96 all the way , much love to you all from a Celtic supporter YNWA JFT96 ❤️💚
@bigtamshort4 жыл бұрын
Traumatising. What happened at the Travis Scott concert reminded me so much of this!
@llrainll2 жыл бұрын
A very wise observation
@businessman73362 жыл бұрын
To me even the opening of the gate didn’t have to cause this. If only they had shut off that tunnel and filtered people into the side pens. How on earth could they sit in that control box and not see those central pens were totally overcrowded? How on earth were those people supposed to know those central pens were already overcrowded with that tunnel still left open ?
@loulou79635 жыл бұрын
Being a Liverpool fan and watched the disaster live here in Ireland, the chief of police there I found out from watching other doc on you tube had only been employed there 3 weeks earlier. In my opinion due to this fact it seems like lack of experience on his behalf lead to utter negligence on the day. The fact he didnt have expierence why the police made up stories to cover his ass in my opinion.
@davidmackeown2975 жыл бұрын
David Mackeown I agree. He had no idea what he was doing and had no experience whatsoever. Which was appalling considering all those policemen out there were looking to them for what to do and when. I know absolutely nothing about the logistics of operations such as this and I was only young when this happened. Indeed I was of a generation that grew up genuinely believing the stories and that it was all caused by the fans and their behaviour that day. But even knowing as little as I do I just can’t get my brain around watching those packed out pens and watching yet more pour through that tunnel without thinking ok that’s enough in there. Let’s fill the near empty pens now and shut off the tunnel !
@loulou79635 жыл бұрын
Solid as rocks just unbelievable. That he could sit there and do nothing at all. Not even things that would have been obvious to the layperson.
@loulou79635 жыл бұрын
Solid as rocks I agree. People do freeze. It’s human. You freeze and become like a rabbit in the headlights. But as you say a man in his position should have put the groundwork in and visited the ground etc. He should definitely have been aware of the problems in previous years and the danger areas etc. And maybe he should have been advised better too. Those police officers out there on the frontline totally relied on their superiors for their orders and they got nothing. I was going to say, didn’t the ground have any responsibility for health and safety ? No stewards to guide fans ?
@loulou79635 жыл бұрын
Solid as rocks everything you say makes perfect sense to me. It comes down to the same thing doesn’t it ? Money and the fact they didn’t want to spend it to improve safety. Sadly it seems that it always takes a major loss of life before anything is done. The same as the ferry disaster a few years before. The 80s seem full of horrific things like this. I was only a young girl at the time of hillsborough but I grew up with the version of lies that were fed by the gutter press. Can I ask were you at hillsborough yourself ?
@loulou79635 жыл бұрын
i was at the other game the other semi-final between everton-norwich so this could have been my dad and I..I remember seeing Everton fans crying on the train on the way back.. we were going to wembley but everton fans were crying, so even tho i was just ten, i knew something really terrible had happened.. r.i.p the 96 xx
@Ryang4035 жыл бұрын
Never knew Neil Fitzmaurice was at Hillsborough, loved him in Pheonix Nights. Ray Von.
@RTPxPJ5 жыл бұрын
Neil fitzmaurice was the main star of going off big time
@iliketakingthepissofdietch27422 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ella - your arl man must be so proud! Thanks for posting this video - which I saw on the day that the IPCC confirmed no former officers from West Midlands Police will be prosecuted for the aftermath of that day, in spite of there being evidence that their investigation into South Yorkshire Police gave cause for concern! Truth without justice is not real justice. We fight on.
@jimsharman38346 жыл бұрын
Aw thank you!!
@ellahooton6 жыл бұрын
@@ellahootoni knew it wasn't the supporters fault. I'm a Liverpool supporter
@peterwilliamskelhorn66754 ай бұрын
The first time I learned anything about Hillsborough was when I watched the 20th anniversary commemorations on sky sports news, as a 13 year old girl ill off school. I remember, and still vividly recall the goosebumps I felt, as well as the anger and sense of injustice felt by the many hundreds, and probably thousands who chanted "Justice for the 96". From that day, I felt compelled to learn as much as I could about Hillsborough, not so much as finding out what happened, but why it was still a contentious issue, and why the attendees were so vocal that day. What I learned was horrifying. Nobody should ever go to a football match and not come home. Nobody should ever have to endure what people at Hillsborough did, and the way the elite police and the government covered it up and allowed the smearing of Liverpool and football fans to occur is truly appalling, unforgivable and almost beyond belief. I try to do what I can to help the campaign process, though my efforts may seem very little in the grand scheme of things, but by knowing and by remembering, I feel that in some way I am not letting the deaths of 96 people being accepted as a result of drunkenness or hooligsnism. I credit every single survivor and campaigner with the events of the last ten years or so, when it has been finally accepted who was really to blame. You are all heroes and admirable figures, and so many of us can learn from your dignity, perseverance, strength and unity.
@sarahmoore80884 жыл бұрын
Please stop.
@aikaterineillt98763 жыл бұрын
@Sarah u seem very into urself bro this ain’t abt u
@malh3rido2 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly said!
@paigeleigh25542 жыл бұрын
@@malh3ridoTypical millennial narcissist 😔
@woowah323 ай бұрын
It’s strange to think my dad was at the Norwich game that day having been a Liverpool fan when he was younger, he could have been there
@mgz_lxw44925 жыл бұрын
Hello, For my final project I also want to do a documentary on the Hillsborough disaster. I didn’t know about this great video until I had to analyse a documentary on the same topic as myself. This video has inspired me massively to do something similar to mine. So if anyone knows of anyone that was at the game that day or has any stories of that day, could you please get in contact with me. Cheers Ben
@benalford70755 жыл бұрын
All of them have Irish names. What a tragedy to the Irish in liverpool:(
@PiratesAndCowboys5 жыл бұрын
It's a tragedy to them ALL. Not just the Irish. They aren't Irish anyway... They are English. They have Irish surnames because 90% of Liverpool have Irish roots.
@DaaanielOx2 жыл бұрын
@@DaaanielOx There are some Welsh too.
@Themanyfacesofego2 жыл бұрын
If your Irish then NEVER forget that there was an Irish man murdered amongst the 39 juventus fans at heysel, justice for the heysel 39 murdering red bastards Everton fc u.t.f.t.1878 tiocfaidh ar la erin go bragh 💙🇮🇪
@williambeck1574 Жыл бұрын
Still gives me chills as a Liverpool fan having watched it in Ireland on tv, learning now that police match commander had only been appointed 3 weeks earlier. It showed even watching the disaster. They froze on the day and the total negligence of them was clear for me to see.
@davidmackeown2975 жыл бұрын
The main contributing factor to this was the perimeter fencing at Hillsborough. If there had been no fencing the people at the front would have had easy access to the pitch. It has always amazed me that it took until 1989 for a tragedy like this to happen. I had been at a few games around this time where this could easily have happened. A truly Terrible day.
@ZeldaFitz5 жыл бұрын
But weren't those fences put in place to prevent overenthusiastic fans from running onto the field during a game, or a ball go flying into the crowd? Not blaming these poor victims at all, but I thought I read that this is the case. I suppose the bigger mistake would be to not have the fences open like a gate onto the field (it would make sense for other emergencies like a fire to have another escape route)
@kellynn7393 жыл бұрын
So sad...just wish they all let them rest in peace..
@barryallen78945 жыл бұрын
when they say the gate do they meant the high railings between them and being able to go on the pitch???
@KF-cx8bm2 жыл бұрын
That's The guy from Phoenix Nights and Peep Show. He was there huh? I had no idea.
@darthkahn454 жыл бұрын
Yes he's literally on every programme about hillsborough he can't get enough of it
@pcozzy2 жыл бұрын
I’m never ever ever going to huge crowds the pictures alone gave me chills
@artimationmc21502 жыл бұрын
I never considered what would have happened if beardsley scored. Gut wrenching.
@michaeltaylor67829 ай бұрын
And a big thank you to the late Anne Williams who fought hard and managed to get the verdict of accidental death overturned and got a small justice for the 96(now 97). But alas no one has been held accountable for their deaths yet and the pain and heartache will never be over until someone is. RIP to the 97,you'll never be forgotten!! If you want to include Anne it makes the toll 98...She sadly lost her battle with cancer In 2012
@angiedawnmoody35192 жыл бұрын
You'll Never Walk Alone...JFT96
@dirtycator84854 жыл бұрын
It was so sad for the people who died rest in peace R.I.P. the 😥😥
@matthewmann63965 жыл бұрын
That so scary and terrifying I can’t imagine how many people were trampled and step on
@AmeliaRosalinaTheHedgehog3 жыл бұрын
Never forget! X
@paigeleigh25543 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad that these people had to go through that!!! I just wanted to let them know that we are very sorry (even though I wasn’t there I’m still sorry because no one should have to go through that) I just hope that nothing like this will ever happen again!! I wasn’t even born yet but I’m so sorry for everything they went through
@keiseywalker49974 жыл бұрын
Purely for anonymous psychological research Keisey, who did you mean when you said; _"I just wanted to let _*_THEM_*_ know that _*_WE_*_ are very sorry..."?_ i.e. who did you mean by *"them"* and *"we"* Many thanks.
@DrAnne-mc8er4 жыл бұрын
I watched the tragedy unfold live on TV from halfway across the world. Yes there was about 10min when nobody understood what was going on. Notts fans, commentators, security and police misunderstood the situation (for about 2 min) Once they knew something was wrong, everyone there that day acted well. The Notts fans were penned up at the other end, but they went silent. Commentators were calling for help, police officers and security were pitching in. And of course the Liverpool fans themselves were performing heroic acts. Because I was a world away I never knew the disgusting things said in the media, or was aware that police leaders were initiatiating a cover up and smear. The facts that day were already clear to me and everyone. That The Sun still exists is an everlasting shame on Britain. That police leaders had the power to dictate an altered reality for so long is a lesson that must never be repeated. It looked to us like any other match, transmission continued and I watched shocked till only one or two people were left in the ground hours later only aware because the ambulances and stretchers were so numerous, and the shocked commentators. We didn't know till next day that we were watching 96 people die live in front of us. What a terrible tragedy.
@sjdover694 жыл бұрын
80's football stadiums were traps with small gates and useless barriers on the lanes (hazel tragedy). People got overcrowded by miscontrol and were crashed on to barriers and metal fences.... The key is strict policy on tickets and seats, good guarding & penalties for those who dont follow rules, get drunk and dont care about football but like to cause brawls and safety built stadiums. Olympiakos had a similar tragedy in 1981. RIP
@gfanarakos3 жыл бұрын
The recent docudrama Anne on ITV is welcomed.
@TheMimifur2 жыл бұрын
People... please take a look at South Yorkshire Police’s brutality against Sheffield tree protesters. They simply have not learnt anything from this.
@brianbadonde90396 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's about learning as opposed to caring. They do not care, they are just protecting their own vile backs. They have sold their souls, they have no integrity.
@gwyneth78126 жыл бұрын
How many tree protesters have lost their lives........and had it covered up by people you are brought up to trust. Grow up. Read. Listen. Learn.
@grahamtodd12295 жыл бұрын
When the phone hacking scandal happen the Daily Mirror was forced to close down, its credibility in tatters. Why is The Sun still in existence after all this?
@TomTremayne3 жыл бұрын
News of the world u mean
@joelgotham18043 жыл бұрын
@@joelgotham1804 News of the World closed down over the hacking scandal? The Daily Mirror has also gone tho' if I'm not mistaken? Anyway......the point I was making is that in my humble opinion, all journalism is basically dishonest and insidious.
@TomTremayne3 жыл бұрын
RIP❤❤❤
@CillianCarey2 жыл бұрын
4:43 was a real butterfly effect.
@bauplunk3 жыл бұрын
Changing the officer in charge was critical and he’s decision to open the gate but not close the entrance to the central pen was fatal.
@treborone25205 жыл бұрын
YNWA - ❤ to all Liverpool ftrom Denmark 🇩🇰
@metalmadsen5 жыл бұрын
Jeff? As in Jeff?
@stewiegiligan3 жыл бұрын
@7:20 Just what you don't want to hear when you're trying to survive is a copper saying this. :/
@dalymc3 жыл бұрын
It still keeps hurting why can’t they just admit wrong how much longer do I have these nightmares they are back so bad again I won’t to end it xynwax
@davidcampbell28035 жыл бұрын
I was in a stampede in 80s i got pinned against a barrier i could not breath it was terrifying.
@Iceis_Phoenix2 жыл бұрын
I am thankful you got out alive.
@pepsicola62322 жыл бұрын
How awful!
@notused.2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t there a documentary on this
@coys782 Жыл бұрын
No way never knew the guy off peep show was there
@RegiyThornton7 ай бұрын
JEFF?
@bencripwell86633 жыл бұрын
I watched a documentary on this and it didn't hit until I watched this video.
@Arlothed1no4 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to give me the link to that documentary?? I had seen a very thorough one that showed everything and can't seem to find it, thank you.
@robprocks4 жыл бұрын
@@robprocks You can find it on here if you search Hillsborough disaster. It's about forty minutes or so.
@Arlothed1no4 жыл бұрын
@@Arlothed1no thank you!!
@robprocks4 жыл бұрын
If Fitzmaurice was right about Peter Beardsley scoring, it would have been an awful burden to bare for Peter.
@nigefal2 ай бұрын
Don't buy the sun! JFT96
@babscabs19872 жыл бұрын
Not even to use. As a liner for my cats litter tray?
@margaretbanks89693 ай бұрын
@margaretbanks8969 no, your cats deserve better.
@babscabs19873 ай бұрын
Oml it’s hank zippers dad
@minahilhassan99335 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@noodletryhard31325 жыл бұрын
The first guy is an actor I had no idea he is a survivor
@anusharamu37772 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about the game and how fans react...what did Neil mean when he said if the ball had gone in the goal instead of hitting the bar there would have been hundreds more dead?
@Beth-pf6oo2 жыл бұрын
Meaning the crowd would've been even more stirred up with excitement.
@mr.sandman86442 жыл бұрын
@@mr.sandman8644 I never knew this happened. Just recently learned about it, and when I first heard the story I couldn't believe how many died, and now the more I learn I can't believe more didn't . What a nightmare.
@Beth-pf6oo2 жыл бұрын
@@Beth-pf6oo Its very similar to what happened at The Who concert. When the band started reversing it causes people to push in more out of excitement. The ones at the back don't know what's going on at the front. If he had made that goal people would have really pushed to get in without knowing.
@lauraschumann76052 жыл бұрын
Holding the victims head up to prevent the tongue blocking the airway could have saved multiple life’s. RIP🕊
@mrose45205 жыл бұрын
96 died. How would it save hundreds
@hartincmajor2025 жыл бұрын
The other four was all the children you had in your basement
@mrose45205 жыл бұрын
@@mrose4520 it would have to be 104 to save hundreds, plural. And I cant fit that many kids in my basement, trust me I tried
@hartincmajor2025 жыл бұрын
Nobody could move a muscle around them so how could that have been achieved??! 🤦🏻♀️ My sincere sympathy to LFC, the fallen 96 and their loved ones.
@qdee62503 жыл бұрын
Wrong. If the chest is being crush, you can no longer breathe in or out.
@FFEMTB082 жыл бұрын
They should've never separated the fans. There was never going to be 50/50 fan participation, they should've know it would be heavier on one side. They should've also set up a ticket checker further out to make sure fans who weren't ticketed didn't even come near the turnstiles. Fans should stop pushing! I never understood mob mentality.
@mr.balloffur5 жыл бұрын
Did you actually watch this??!!
@stefanisolomon7255 жыл бұрын
@@stefanisolomon725 Yes, so? What I said was still 100% accurate.
@mr.balloffur5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.balloffur the accident had nothing to do with fans. Fact. The end. No one died because of pushing or not having tickets. I suggest you watch it again.
@stefanisolomon7255 жыл бұрын
@@stefanisolomon725 First of all, if they let the fans that were most congested on the Leppings Lane side sit ANYWHERE, there wouldn't have been congestion. Lastly, of course there was pushing, that's what happens when you have a large crowd who didn't know there wasn't room but kept walking and were pushed from behind. People died of asphyxiation, that doesn't happen unless you're crushed from PUSHING. I suggest YOU watch it again. I gave you my educated statements, if you're too stupid to comprehend them, that's YOUR problem. I'm done dealing with you, go away.
@mr.balloffur5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.balloffur the accident wasn't caused by the fans. Fact.
@stefanisolomon7255 жыл бұрын
justice for the 39
@Antoniorex Жыл бұрын
My school friend Michelle hicks lost her cousins in this
@lisareed44092 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for her loss and so glad that you're a lovely friend to Michelle x
@notused.2 жыл бұрын
If there was common cell phones in those days u hope it never would get to that .
@janettemcgregor41004 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to be purposely awkward Janette, but how would mobile phones being more common back then have helped anyone?
@DrAnne-mc8er4 жыл бұрын
Not true, there have situations like this in nightclubs and raves.
@missbraindamage3 жыл бұрын
@@DrAnne-mc8er you’d be able to call 112
@Meh-sn5kj3 жыл бұрын
Just happened again in this age though
@boykingmb2 жыл бұрын
I've never been so ashamed of coming from Sheffield, it's a stain on the City thanks to South Yorkshire Police
@Nat69995 күн бұрын
Crazy to listen to these folk talking then listen to golf blaming them. Poor buggers only went to watch a match man.
@mickbrown85372 жыл бұрын
Not really into spectator sports, but I have a special place in my heart for Liverpool. I shall never forget.
@wiretamer57106 ай бұрын
We know who is responsible but the Uk isn’t very good at doing justice
@vinceiswatchingyou5 жыл бұрын
The justice system is shite here. I honestly think those in the middle and upper class don’t give a shit about the rest of us and especially those of us in northern England and Scotland. The 96 and their families and friends will never get any real closure.
@spacecat31984 жыл бұрын
If glory supporters didn't go it wouldn't of happened support your local team this Is a good reason why you should
@anncraft53982 жыл бұрын
Is that fucking Jeff?
@Kieth19984 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@RegiyThornton7 ай бұрын
The police there that day should all be in jail
@jayal66982 жыл бұрын
Thing is fans are from liverpool and can't understand their accent :( RIP those who passed away.
@gencgezici8345 жыл бұрын
I didn’t understand a gad dam word!!
@That-guy-here2 жыл бұрын
Then educate yourself.
@pepsicola62322 жыл бұрын
Watch the documentary or watch Anne on itv
@isabelhall50972 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t understand what the crowd was saying but this whole incident was terrible and sad this the Travis Scott concert the love parade in Germany the Jewish stampede in Israeli God be with those that have lost their lives to crowd crushes and stampedes
@mirandascott80582 жыл бұрын
All those Tik paddy’s with no tickets caused it.
@sausage289 Жыл бұрын
Most disgusting police cover up in sporting history.
@TeamP20 күн бұрын
Not a bad video..shame about neil fitzmaurice jumping on the bad-wagon... he'll do anything for a bit of exposure... probably one of the fans without a ticket who shouldn't have been allowed in and so partially responsible...but that aside... good video
@snafflefilms2 жыл бұрын
Really do think that’s very narrow minded of you
@isabelhall50972 жыл бұрын
late arrival to the ground and fans without tickets was the major factor in this disaster, they pressurised the police to open the gates as they have on other occasions at Hillsborough, also the FA are largely responsible for the decision to erect those fences and if they had not been there they would not have died. this has never been brought up in the enquiry and the FA have cover their arses .These barrier fences were install on the orders of the FA to stop pitch invasions and not enough work was done on designs to allow escape in emergencies, fire or any other reasons, they treated fans like caged animals and if those fenced had not been there no one would have died , that a fact !and it is a disgrace and an injustice the FA have not being held accountable and brought to justice just as much as the police's alleged doggy reporting, Hillsborough changed all football stadia this type of barrier has gone in favour of all seating , too little too late those fences turned the terrace into a walled building with a locked fire escape doors and just to blame a fire or who started it when the locked fire doors prevented an escape, any enquiry would focus on the reasons for the locked fire doors doors as much as the cause of the fire.
@rgsnr87025 жыл бұрын
They proved that it wasn't ticketless fans, most fans still had their ticket with the stub still attached because the turnstiles were overwhelmed, the independent panel said that a minimum of 750 fans would have needed to go through each turnstile per hour, there were 18 turnstiles for 24k fans, it was physically impossible.
@Nat69995 күн бұрын
@@Nat6999 you do not accept that the fans poured out of the pubs and expected to get in the ground in time ,yet everyone was to blame but them ,those fans that died got in the ground early and their own fellow supporters are the ones that killed them
@rgsnr87025 күн бұрын
@rgsnr8702 The police failed by not closing off the tunnel. On club match days the entrance to the tunnel was manned by stewards & police, when they decided it was full nobody else was allowed down & fans directed to the side pens that were empty on 15 April. The crowd outside was building up from 1 30 onwards, several of the turnstiles had problems & were unavailable for some of the time while the crush was building up, with all the turnstiles open there needed to be at least 12 fans a minute going through to keep up with the 750 per hour needed to get all the fans who had bought tickets in the ground on time. A lot of the fans had never been to Hillsborough before & only saw the sign for standing above the tunnel entrance, the side pens didn't have the correct size signage that should have been visible. A lot of fans who arrived late had been held up on the journey because of roadworks, it wasn't their fault.
@Nat69995 күн бұрын
@@Nat6999 you blame everyone but the drunken fans ,a familiar sight at Hillsborough on semi final days BTW, i lived and worked less than half a mile from the ground and have seen it all, the police made mistakes they are human ,you should as i do blame the FA they demanded the erection of those fences not the club and approved a design which had no emergency escape route ,as for signs they were the responsibility of the FA 's health and safety executive and the fire brigade not the police, in my official capacity i was asked to do a survey of signage for the club a week after the disaster and found little wrong with what was there other than recommending more signs with bigger lettering but none of this would have made any difference that day in my opinion ,simply put the FA should never have approved such fencing and the fans should have sued them not the police ,you let them get away Scot free ,and not the FA ordered the removal of all such barriers after Hillsborough what does that tell you
@rgsnr87025 күн бұрын
@rgsnr8702 Read the Hillsborough Independent Panel Report, they proved that the fans weren't drunk. The match commander for the police hadn't a clue what he was doing, he had never policed a match for over 10 years. Less than 8 hours after the disaster the high ups of the police were at the Niagra Police Club getting there stories straight, they sold the narrative that drunken fans had caused it. The report found the police, Sheffield Council, the engineering firm who had put the fences between the pens & calculated how many fans should be in each pen, Sheffield Wednesday & the ambulance service were at fault. Why did Siuth Yorkshire Police pay out over £12 million in damages if they weren't at fault? They sold the story of drunken fans to the FA, Margaret Thatcher, the Coroner, tipped off the papers, all to save their own skin. Duckenfield should have got life for what he did. Orgreave, Hillsborough, the Rotherham sex abuse cases, all covered up by South Yorkshire Police. They should have been disbanded, they were rotten from the top downwards, Duckenfield got to retire on a big fat pension, got off scot free.
@Nat69994 күн бұрын
Seldom give much time over to Heysel, do they?
@scoopermg82265 жыл бұрын
Where are the lies about heysel? Where was the cover up about heysel? Where was the lack of convictions over heysel? Where was the denial over who was to blame at heysel? Where was the catastrophic injustice of heysel, (blame was rightly assigned to the Liverpool supporters) ?
@doyoulikebeetroot5 жыл бұрын
Disgusting
@megandent51693 жыл бұрын
These accents are ridiculously thick.
@yoyoma1313135 жыл бұрын
What kind of ignorant comment is that
@birdswont4 жыл бұрын
Clueless
@chilldude304 жыл бұрын
...obviously
@shhwayy3 жыл бұрын
What a disrespectful thing to say
@21kirsty212 жыл бұрын
They just sound like normal Scouse accents. Very easy to understand and I'm from the south
@jhibberd62902 жыл бұрын
It's like the old scottish saying goes "when idiets wanna watch football, idiets gonna watch football".
@Gonken882 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by this exactly.
@pepsicola62322 жыл бұрын
@@pepsicola6232 It's pretty self evident if you've got an iq above 100.
@Gonken882 жыл бұрын
@@Gonken88 it’s either your trying in some way to blame these victims .. because let’s bare in mind THEY WENT TO A FOOTBALL MATCH AND 96 PEOPLE NEVER RETURNED HOME
@isabelhall50972 жыл бұрын
@@isabelhall5097 Uhm yeah, I watched the clip as well dear. Got all 3 💉 did you?
@Gonken882 жыл бұрын
@@Gonken88 what’s wrong with you comparing the vaccine to children men and women dying at a football match? The youngest to die was 10 years of age You need to do some serious growing up
@isabelhall50972 жыл бұрын
I have never heard a Liverpool fan express any sympathy towards the 39 Italians who died the same way in Brussels
@carlhudson6375 жыл бұрын
Probably because they’re Liverpool fans not Italians ?
@charlie88075 жыл бұрын
Scousers never expressed any sympathy for the Italians who died .... then, when Hillsborough happened they expect the whole footballing world to feel sorry for them ..... we never hear of the Ibrox disaster or the Bradford fire but we get Hillsborough rammed down our throats by selfish Scousers
@carlhudson6375 жыл бұрын
@@carlhudson637 yes they did and went to jail to..why shouldnt the s.yorks police go to jail? In fact dnt answer that...ur either a plod or a prick ,or both...
@saintlysinner39225 жыл бұрын
I'm just a person who doesn't like hypocrites ..... Liverpool fans are the biggest hypocrites on this planet
@carlhudson6375 жыл бұрын
Heysel, although a small minority of Liverpool fans caused the disaster, Uefa played a very big part by not giving all of that end to Liverpool. Hillsborough still plays a big part in the news because of the cover up and injustice involved. Bradford and ibrox were accidents and although terrible we knew what happened. That’s the difference.
@mrkipling22015 жыл бұрын
*I'm not sure it's at all healthy for anyone to still be mourning the loss of a loved one 30 years after they've gone. But then I'm also not sure that all these people ARE still mourning the loss of loved ones 30 years later?*
@DrAnne-mc8er4 жыл бұрын
When is it the 'correct' time to stop mourning someone? Just wondering what the considered, healthy mourning period is.
@jmc76363 жыл бұрын
@@jmc7636 It depends on who the person was to you, and how you mourn them. For example, someone I know of personally - a 64-year-old lady, lost her husband 34 years ago in 1987. They'd been married for just over 7 years when he died. She's moved house 3 times since he died (because of her work/career). But each time she's moved house, she takes all her deceased husbands clothes, specialist tools he had, and which she has no need for, his shoes, sports bags, electric shaver, watches, old check stubs, train tickets, literally everything he owned in 1987, and puts it all in the drawers, cupboards and on hangers in a spare bedroom. Much of which most people would consider as junk. In addition, she's never re-married, or even dated anyone since he died in 1987. Because (and I quote), _"Tony would be furious, and I'd feel disloyal, like I was cheating on him."_ That may (or may not?) sound like an extreme example, but it's not at all uncommon. Particularly with widows more that widowers, and especially if their loved one died unexpectedly. Though that's by no means always the case. I hope that explains what I meant by my original comment? Take care JMC and stay healthy.
@DrAnne-mc8er3 жыл бұрын
@@DrAnne-mc8er thanks for taking the time to respond, however you did not answer the question I asked at all. If your answer is an example of what is unhealthy then so be it but it still does not answer what I asked. Essentially I wanted you to justify why you think it is unhealthy for parents to still be morning their children who went to a sport event to die sudden and horrific deaths? I'm still perplexed by your initial comment. Further, wanting justice for the victims is not dependent on still being in mourning. The reason 30 years after their deaths they are still begging for justice is because not only did they live the horror of losing their loved ones suddenly and tragically, some being survivors of the disaster themselves, but they were also victim blamed based on blatant lies. I find your initial comment quiet hurtful, assuming your qualification is in a medical field what happened to 'first do no harm'.
@jmc76363 жыл бұрын
@@jmc7636 I don't think *anyone* on KZhead has a legal or moral requirement to _"justify"_ their personal opinion JMC. Furthermore, I believe that to be the case regarding *any* subject matter. For whatever reason, you chose to _camouflage_ your anger towards me regarding my initial response, by asking a very generalised, and unassuming question, i.e. _"When is it the 'correct' time to stop mourning someone?"_ In good faith, and with respect, I answered the question you asked *fully,* in the first 14 words of my reply. So for you to say that I did not answer the question you asked _"at all"_ is clearly not true. However, you have now narrowed down your initial and generalised question somewhat, by explaining that you specifically had parents mourning their children in mind. Narrowing the question down even more by referring specifically to the death of children who went to a sports event, who died suddenly and horrifically. What I try to avoid on KZhead JMC, is becoming embroiled in frankly, churlish and irrelevant word games with people, exclusively for their own entertainment. Had you originally asked; _"Do you feel there is a correct or reasonable time period for parents to stop mourning the death of a child at Hillsborough?"_ I would have answered that question instead. To clarify your assumption, yes, I have three Doctorates in the medical field - a PhD in Medicine, a PhD in Psychiatry, and a third PhD in Social Psychology. As for your sarcastically loaded question of; _"...what happened to 'first do no harm'?"_ As far as I'm aware, it's still written in its original Koine Greek form, from around 420BC _("Πρώτα μην βλάψετε"),_ and still resides (allegedly for safe keeping) in the Vatican Library. Finally, and purely for educational purposes, the phrase credited to Hippocrates of _"first, do no harm"_ forms part of his work entitled, _"Of The Epidemics",_ i.e. in Section II of the Second Constitution of that written work, he states; _"The physician must have two special objectives in view with regard to disease, namely, to do good or to do no harm"._ The phrase *is not,* and *never has been* a part of the Hippocratic Oath taken (worldwide) by medical students upon qualifying as doctors. Again, take care JMC and stay healthy.
@DrAnne-mc8er3 жыл бұрын
@@DrAnne-mc8er yes we are all entitled to hold our individual opinions and also to express them, however your initial statement, presented in bold font, would be quite hurtful to those personally impacted by Hillsborough. Regardless of your intention, your initial comment comes across as both callous and accusatory to the victims and survivors.
@jmc76363 жыл бұрын
What about the 39 killed by liverpool fans in 1985. Despite 14 liverpool fans convicted of manslaughter your still in 2021 throwing bricks at players coaches. Think again simpletons
@mikeheap79783 жыл бұрын
Not the time dude.
@foxglovearts11292 жыл бұрын
Really not the time! Children did that day men women! Research it and shut up! Thank you . I’m a city fan and yet Hillsborough is the one thing I will always stand behind
@isabelhall50972 жыл бұрын
This is so foreign to me. You all blaming some match commander while people are just too stupid to stop piling on top of each other. It just seems like something that can happen when crowds are massive in a contained environment. Such a desperate need to assign blame. I wasn’t there, I didn’t see it first hand, I’m not familiar with soccer fanaticism, forgive my ignorance. But why such a desperation to assign blame?
@HeWhoHath5 жыл бұрын
Read up about it before opening your mouth
@jacobfarrell11205 жыл бұрын
Because it was the match commanders fault, he gave the order for exit gate c to be opened.
@clairefrier23535 жыл бұрын
@@goddessofsalvia1, who's your comment aimed at?
@clairefrier23535 жыл бұрын
Claire Frier it’s aimed at Toby x
@goddessofsalvia15 жыл бұрын
The fans who didn't have tickets but crammed in there anyway are also to blame. Mobs need to get their emotions under control. People should really be able to police themselves.
@mr.balloffur5 жыл бұрын
They went to a football match and never came home. Never forget the 97. YNWA
my biggest fear is drowning. I can't imagine being trapped between hundreds of people, being crushed against a metal wire with literally no room to breathe or for your lungs to expand. it's terrifying to think about
Same, I am so claustrophobic I probably would have died from the sheer panic alone. I can't imagine how horrible it must have been to be there.
Yo I’m afraid being trampled
Atleast drowin is quicker then this
@@cmf4706 Two full lungs full and you just pass out then obviously die, these poor folk didn't have that, horrible death.
And then being pushed back by people that are supposed to help you, just when you think you made it. Pure horror!
My 2 brothers and my brother in law were there, i watched on tv hoping they were ok , When they came home i hugged them and cried. God knows what it was like for the families who lost loved ones that day , god bless them all , the 96 the survivors and the families , and Liverpool FC ❤
96 survivors? So ur saying like 40k ppl died, I think u got that wrong
@@avatakeo I think the 96 were injured but eventually recovered
96 people died...
@@psihopatasick-touch2665 he didn’t use commas, calm down
@@avatakeo he didn’t use commas
One thing I have learned from this and other crowd crush disasters is to simply avoid events with crowds this large, if possible. This has completely scared the shit out of me, to the point that I am okay with that decision.
I wish i knew in the 80s i had situation happen like this
Seats?
to see your loved ones go out that door and never see them again is heartbreaking not to fight a war but a football game, my deepest sympathy to the families
All because of bloody football.
@@PalmBaiReader Hey what's wrong with watching 10 overpaid manboys chase a ball for 90 minutes?
Sadly they were mainly youngsters,the youngest being 10 years of age....They were unlawfully killed and to date no one has been held accountable,its so wrong
The main cause of the disaster was the decision to change the match commander 3 weeks before the game from someone who knew what he was doing to someone who hadn't even been there for over 10 years. If they hadn't done that the gate wouldn't have needed to be opened because filtering of tickets and queuing would have happened as per the previous year.
No. Tragedy happens in a perfect storm. The conditions had been building up to this. Treating people like cattle had been putting ever more dangerous obstacles up. If it didn't happen at Hillsborough it would have happened somewhere else. The cop in charge made 1 fatal mistake which not in a perfect storm he could have got away with. Everyone makes mistakes. The original fault lay in treating people like cattle. The subsequent fault lay in trying to cover it up. Which that cop never did. Only those above him. And as for The Sun, well that was just pure evil. Evil exists in our soceity if we let it.
Simon Dover the only reason conditions were the way they were was down to hooliganism. Pens were introduced in the late 70’s because of the problems we had in the early and mid 70’s. In fact fences were introduced at the Leppings Lane end for the 77 cup semi final between Manchester United and Leeds. No other reason for them. And one of the main reasons for the disaster was the police viewing the Liverpool fans through the lens of hooliganism. That’s why they didn’t act immediately when people were getting crushed in pens 3 and 4. They thought it was a pitch invasion.
@@mrkipling2201 Yep. Agree completely. But that makes my point, no matter the reason, treating people as less than human ends in disaster.
But it was also my point that the fatal decision made on that day was never proved to have come from a bad place. Indeed it appears the person responsible bitterly regretted it. Approx. 10 mins elapsed when everyone thought nothing abnormal was happening given the normal behaviour of football fans. Around 2 mins of misunderstanding when mistakes where made by everyone except the Liverpool fans. Then everyone behaved well. Mistakes happen. He admitted it was a mistake. The two main problems were authorities in committees treating people like cattle, and the cover up / smear.
Simon Dover definitely. As football fans, we were appallingly treated at games in the 80’s. We didn’t know any different though.
I'm really glad Neil Fitzmaurice not only survived this ordeal but had the bravery to speak about it and document his experiences in this. He was such a light in Peep Show and afforded me many hearry laughs. He is a real talent and I'm sure he brings so much enrichment to the people he knows. I know he brings enrichment in his comedy and performances. Blessings to Neil always. I know in other ways how hard PTSD can be to live with, but it's worth the fight for life.
@CG-mj4vf he plays Neil Guthrie in Waterloo Road
I do not have the words to express my sadness, awe and respect for all the Liverpool families affected by this. And those that fought so hard for justice should be honoured. Yet it seems that the honours go out to the criminals in suits and robes, all snuggling up together on their corrupt self adorned pedestals. I was struck when watching and reading about this how there were similarities to the cover up around my grt grandfathers death (along with 1197 others): Families waiting desperately at Lime Street station, statements written by the authorities, witnesses called only if they would say what the authorities wanted them to and the victims being blamed. That was the Lusitania Disaster, referred to by Lord Mersey (who clearly had some integrity as he waived his fee and resigned his post as wreck commissioner afterwards) calling it 'A dam dirty business'. Churchill, the so-called war hero, had a lot to answer for in that, but never did of-course. Thank you Liverpool families ~ you have done humanity an incredible justice in your own search for justice but showing the truth of the corrupt establishment to the world.
Well said!!
I was at Villa Park on this day & only heard that game had been stopped & then abandoned I was in Holte end with Everton (1st time at a big match for me) there were crowd surges that day which lifted you off your feet & carried you forward & then you retracted this was new to me I cannot imagine the horror at Hillsborough god bless.
Same here chris. i was with my dad supporting everton. altho i was just ten i realized something truly terrible had happened cos i saw everton fans crying on the train back.. horrible.
This is my new worst way to die after learning about this and what happened at Astro world last night. It sounds horrifying
And totally preventable. Avoid huge crowds.
@@CDN1975 It's extremely statistically unlikely, so I wouldn't recommend avoiding all fun and good experiences in life just to avoid such an unlikely scenario. But hey, if you want to live in your safety bubble just stay home and spend all your time on the internet rather than enjoying your life, that's your decision. Best to never ride in a car again or leave your house too, since your likelihood of being in a car crash or shot is far greater.
@@jennifermarie3158 all the things that can happen is depressing
Was there as a forest fan that day we all watched in horror as the tradgedy unfolded r.i.p
I cant imagine how horrific it was
I’m sorry you had to witness that.. did it take long for other fans in the stadium to notice what was going on exactly?
No you didn't. You lot taunted the Liverpool fans singing "cheerio, cheerio, cheerio" to the injured people leaving on stretchers. Singing "what the fucking hell is that?" when Liverpool fans were being brought out of the pens. You didn't care about the injured, you were a disgrace that day!
@@danhewett6086 you haven't a clue Dan.
Must have be difficult to cover such an intricate and lengthy issue in a short piece so job very well done.
Sounds like pure hell. My heart goes out to them.
Words fail me as the tears flow. I can only say that #Justice has finally come. #Neverforgotten #Alwaysremembered.
God bless you all , i was at Celtic park on the day of the game between Celtic and Liverpool , the first game lfc played after that tragedy , 96 scarfs tied together round the pitch , i had to show mysupport somehow and im proud to say i was there , just a tiny little gesture in the grand scheme of things but i have supported the JFT96 all the way , much love to you all from a Celtic supporter YNWA JFT96 ❤️💚
Traumatising. What happened at the Travis Scott concert reminded me so much of this!
A very wise observation
To me even the opening of the gate didn’t have to cause this. If only they had shut off that tunnel and filtered people into the side pens. How on earth could they sit in that control box and not see those central pens were totally overcrowded? How on earth were those people supposed to know those central pens were already overcrowded with that tunnel still left open ?
Being a Liverpool fan and watched the disaster live here in Ireland, the chief of police there I found out from watching other doc on you tube had only been employed there 3 weeks earlier. In my opinion due to this fact it seems like lack of experience on his behalf lead to utter negligence on the day. The fact he didnt have expierence why the police made up stories to cover his ass in my opinion.
David Mackeown I agree. He had no idea what he was doing and had no experience whatsoever. Which was appalling considering all those policemen out there were looking to them for what to do and when. I know absolutely nothing about the logistics of operations such as this and I was only young when this happened. Indeed I was of a generation that grew up genuinely believing the stories and that it was all caused by the fans and their behaviour that day. But even knowing as little as I do I just can’t get my brain around watching those packed out pens and watching yet more pour through that tunnel without thinking ok that’s enough in there. Let’s fill the near empty pens now and shut off the tunnel !
Solid as rocks just unbelievable. That he could sit there and do nothing at all. Not even things that would have been obvious to the layperson.
Solid as rocks I agree. People do freeze. It’s human. You freeze and become like a rabbit in the headlights. But as you say a man in his position should have put the groundwork in and visited the ground etc. He should definitely have been aware of the problems in previous years and the danger areas etc. And maybe he should have been advised better too. Those police officers out there on the frontline totally relied on their superiors for their orders and they got nothing. I was going to say, didn’t the ground have any responsibility for health and safety ? No stewards to guide fans ?
Solid as rocks everything you say makes perfect sense to me. It comes down to the same thing doesn’t it ? Money and the fact they didn’t want to spend it to improve safety. Sadly it seems that it always takes a major loss of life before anything is done. The same as the ferry disaster a few years before. The 80s seem full of horrific things like this. I was only a young girl at the time of hillsborough but I grew up with the version of lies that were fed by the gutter press. Can I ask were you at hillsborough yourself ?
i was at the other game the other semi-final between everton-norwich so this could have been my dad and I..I remember seeing Everton fans crying on the train on the way back.. we were going to wembley but everton fans were crying, so even tho i was just ten, i knew something really terrible had happened.. r.i.p the 96 xx
Never knew Neil Fitzmaurice was at Hillsborough, loved him in Pheonix Nights. Ray Von.
Neil fitzmaurice was the main star of going off big time
Great stuff Ella - your arl man must be so proud! Thanks for posting this video - which I saw on the day that the IPCC confirmed no former officers from West Midlands Police will be prosecuted for the aftermath of that day, in spite of there being evidence that their investigation into South Yorkshire Police gave cause for concern! Truth without justice is not real justice. We fight on.
Aw thank you!!
@@ellahootoni knew it wasn't the supporters fault. I'm a Liverpool supporter
The first time I learned anything about Hillsborough was when I watched the 20th anniversary commemorations on sky sports news, as a 13 year old girl ill off school. I remember, and still vividly recall the goosebumps I felt, as well as the anger and sense of injustice felt by the many hundreds, and probably thousands who chanted "Justice for the 96". From that day, I felt compelled to learn as much as I could about Hillsborough, not so much as finding out what happened, but why it was still a contentious issue, and why the attendees were so vocal that day. What I learned was horrifying. Nobody should ever go to a football match and not come home. Nobody should ever have to endure what people at Hillsborough did, and the way the elite police and the government covered it up and allowed the smearing of Liverpool and football fans to occur is truly appalling, unforgivable and almost beyond belief. I try to do what I can to help the campaign process, though my efforts may seem very little in the grand scheme of things, but by knowing and by remembering, I feel that in some way I am not letting the deaths of 96 people being accepted as a result of drunkenness or hooligsnism. I credit every single survivor and campaigner with the events of the last ten years or so, when it has been finally accepted who was really to blame. You are all heroes and admirable figures, and so many of us can learn from your dignity, perseverance, strength and unity.
Please stop.
@Sarah u seem very into urself bro this ain’t abt u
Brilliantly said!
@@malh3ridoTypical millennial narcissist 😔
It’s strange to think my dad was at the Norwich game that day having been a Liverpool fan when he was younger, he could have been there
Hello, For my final project I also want to do a documentary on the Hillsborough disaster. I didn’t know about this great video until I had to analyse a documentary on the same topic as myself. This video has inspired me massively to do something similar to mine. So if anyone knows of anyone that was at the game that day or has any stories of that day, could you please get in contact with me. Cheers Ben
All of them have Irish names. What a tragedy to the Irish in liverpool:(
It's a tragedy to them ALL. Not just the Irish. They aren't Irish anyway... They are English. They have Irish surnames because 90% of Liverpool have Irish roots.
@@DaaanielOx There are some Welsh too.
If your Irish then NEVER forget that there was an Irish man murdered amongst the 39 juventus fans at heysel, justice for the heysel 39 murdering red bastards Everton fc u.t.f.t.1878 tiocfaidh ar la erin go bragh 💙🇮🇪
Still gives me chills as a Liverpool fan having watched it in Ireland on tv, learning now that police match commander had only been appointed 3 weeks earlier. It showed even watching the disaster. They froze on the day and the total negligence of them was clear for me to see.
The main contributing factor to this was the perimeter fencing at Hillsborough. If there had been no fencing the people at the front would have had easy access to the pitch. It has always amazed me that it took until 1989 for a tragedy like this to happen. I had been at a few games around this time where this could easily have happened. A truly Terrible day.
But weren't those fences put in place to prevent overenthusiastic fans from running onto the field during a game, or a ball go flying into the crowd? Not blaming these poor victims at all, but I thought I read that this is the case. I suppose the bigger mistake would be to not have the fences open like a gate onto the field (it would make sense for other emergencies like a fire to have another escape route)
So sad...just wish they all let them rest in peace..
when they say the gate do they meant the high railings between them and being able to go on the pitch???
That's The guy from Phoenix Nights and Peep Show. He was there huh? I had no idea.
Yes he's literally on every programme about hillsborough he can't get enough of it
I’m never ever ever going to huge crowds the pictures alone gave me chills
I never considered what would have happened if beardsley scored. Gut wrenching.
And a big thank you to the late Anne Williams who fought hard and managed to get the verdict of accidental death overturned and got a small justice for the 96(now 97). But alas no one has been held accountable for their deaths yet and the pain and heartache will never be over until someone is. RIP to the 97,you'll never be forgotten!! If you want to include Anne it makes the toll 98...She sadly lost her battle with cancer In 2012
You'll Never Walk Alone...JFT96
It was so sad for the people who died rest in peace R.I.P. the 😥😥
That so scary and terrifying I can’t imagine how many people were trampled and step on
Never forget! X
I feel so bad that these people had to go through that!!! I just wanted to let them know that we are very sorry (even though I wasn’t there I’m still sorry because no one should have to go through that) I just hope that nothing like this will ever happen again!! I wasn’t even born yet but I’m so sorry for everything they went through
Purely for anonymous psychological research Keisey, who did you mean when you said; _"I just wanted to let _*_THEM_*_ know that _*_WE_*_ are very sorry..."?_ i.e. who did you mean by *"them"* and *"we"* Many thanks.
I watched the tragedy unfold live on TV from halfway across the world. Yes there was about 10min when nobody understood what was going on. Notts fans, commentators, security and police misunderstood the situation (for about 2 min) Once they knew something was wrong, everyone there that day acted well. The Notts fans were penned up at the other end, but they went silent. Commentators were calling for help, police officers and security were pitching in. And of course the Liverpool fans themselves were performing heroic acts. Because I was a world away I never knew the disgusting things said in the media, or was aware that police leaders were initiatiating a cover up and smear. The facts that day were already clear to me and everyone. That The Sun still exists is an everlasting shame on Britain. That police leaders had the power to dictate an altered reality for so long is a lesson that must never be repeated. It looked to us like any other match, transmission continued and I watched shocked till only one or two people were left in the ground hours later only aware because the ambulances and stretchers were so numerous, and the shocked commentators. We didn't know till next day that we were watching 96 people die live in front of us. What a terrible tragedy.
80's football stadiums were traps with small gates and useless barriers on the lanes (hazel tragedy). People got overcrowded by miscontrol and were crashed on to barriers and metal fences.... The key is strict policy on tickets and seats, good guarding & penalties for those who dont follow rules, get drunk and dont care about football but like to cause brawls and safety built stadiums. Olympiakos had a similar tragedy in 1981. RIP
The recent docudrama Anne on ITV is welcomed.
People... please take a look at South Yorkshire Police’s brutality against Sheffield tree protesters. They simply have not learnt anything from this.
I don't know if it's about learning as opposed to caring. They do not care, they are just protecting their own vile backs. They have sold their souls, they have no integrity.
How many tree protesters have lost their lives........and had it covered up by people you are brought up to trust. Grow up. Read. Listen. Learn.
When the phone hacking scandal happen the Daily Mirror was forced to close down, its credibility in tatters. Why is The Sun still in existence after all this?
News of the world u mean
@@joelgotham1804 News of the World closed down over the hacking scandal? The Daily Mirror has also gone tho' if I'm not mistaken? Anyway......the point I was making is that in my humble opinion, all journalism is basically dishonest and insidious.
RIP❤❤❤
4:43 was a real butterfly effect.
Changing the officer in charge was critical and he’s decision to open the gate but not close the entrance to the central pen was fatal.
YNWA - ❤ to all Liverpool ftrom Denmark 🇩🇰
Jeff? As in Jeff?
@7:20 Just what you don't want to hear when you're trying to survive is a copper saying this. :/
It still keeps hurting why can’t they just admit wrong how much longer do I have these nightmares they are back so bad again I won’t to end it xynwax
I was in a stampede in 80s i got pinned against a barrier i could not breath it was terrifying.
I am thankful you got out alive.
How awful!
Isn’t there a documentary on this
No way never knew the guy off peep show was there
JEFF?
I watched a documentary on this and it didn't hit until I watched this video.
Would you be able to give me the link to that documentary?? I had seen a very thorough one that showed everything and can't seem to find it, thank you.
@@robprocks You can find it on here if you search Hillsborough disaster. It's about forty minutes or so.
@@Arlothed1no thank you!!
If Fitzmaurice was right about Peter Beardsley scoring, it would have been an awful burden to bare for Peter.
Don't buy the sun! JFT96
Not even to use. As a liner for my cats litter tray?
@margaretbanks8969 no, your cats deserve better.
Oml it’s hank zippers dad
Ikr
The first guy is an actor I had no idea he is a survivor
I don't know much about the game and how fans react...what did Neil mean when he said if the ball had gone in the goal instead of hitting the bar there would have been hundreds more dead?
Meaning the crowd would've been even more stirred up with excitement.
@@mr.sandman8644 I never knew this happened. Just recently learned about it, and when I first heard the story I couldn't believe how many died, and now the more I learn I can't believe more didn't . What a nightmare.
@@Beth-pf6oo Its very similar to what happened at The Who concert. When the band started reversing it causes people to push in more out of excitement. The ones at the back don't know what's going on at the front. If he had made that goal people would have really pushed to get in without knowing.
Holding the victims head up to prevent the tongue blocking the airway could have saved multiple life’s. RIP🕊
96 died. How would it save hundreds
The other four was all the children you had in your basement
@@mrose4520 it would have to be 104 to save hundreds, plural. And I cant fit that many kids in my basement, trust me I tried
Nobody could move a muscle around them so how could that have been achieved??! 🤦🏻♀️ My sincere sympathy to LFC, the fallen 96 and their loved ones.
Wrong. If the chest is being crush, you can no longer breathe in or out.
They should've never separated the fans. There was never going to be 50/50 fan participation, they should've know it would be heavier on one side. They should've also set up a ticket checker further out to make sure fans who weren't ticketed didn't even come near the turnstiles. Fans should stop pushing! I never understood mob mentality.
Did you actually watch this??!!
@@stefanisolomon725 Yes, so? What I said was still 100% accurate.
@@mr.balloffur the accident had nothing to do with fans. Fact. The end. No one died because of pushing or not having tickets. I suggest you watch it again.
@@stefanisolomon725 First of all, if they let the fans that were most congested on the Leppings Lane side sit ANYWHERE, there wouldn't have been congestion. Lastly, of course there was pushing, that's what happens when you have a large crowd who didn't know there wasn't room but kept walking and were pushed from behind. People died of asphyxiation, that doesn't happen unless you're crushed from PUSHING. I suggest YOU watch it again. I gave you my educated statements, if you're too stupid to comprehend them, that's YOUR problem. I'm done dealing with you, go away.
@@mr.balloffur the accident wasn't caused by the fans. Fact.
justice for the 39
My school friend Michelle hicks lost her cousins in this
I'm sorry for her loss and so glad that you're a lovely friend to Michelle x
If there was common cell phones in those days u hope it never would get to that .
I don't mean to be purposely awkward Janette, but how would mobile phones being more common back then have helped anyone?
Not true, there have situations like this in nightclubs and raves.
@@DrAnne-mc8er you’d be able to call 112
Just happened again in this age though
I've never been so ashamed of coming from Sheffield, it's a stain on the City thanks to South Yorkshire Police
Crazy to listen to these folk talking then listen to golf blaming them. Poor buggers only went to watch a match man.
Not really into spectator sports, but I have a special place in my heart for Liverpool. I shall never forget.
We know who is responsible but the Uk isn’t very good at doing justice
The justice system is shite here. I honestly think those in the middle and upper class don’t give a shit about the rest of us and especially those of us in northern England and Scotland. The 96 and their families and friends will never get any real closure.
If glory supporters didn't go it wouldn't of happened support your local team this Is a good reason why you should
Is that fucking Jeff?
Yeah
The police there that day should all be in jail
Thing is fans are from liverpool and can't understand their accent :( RIP those who passed away.
I didn’t understand a gad dam word!!
Then educate yourself.
Watch the documentary or watch Anne on itv
I couldn’t understand what the crowd was saying but this whole incident was terrible and sad this the Travis Scott concert the love parade in Germany the Jewish stampede in Israeli God be with those that have lost their lives to crowd crushes and stampedes
All those Tik paddy’s with no tickets caused it.
Most disgusting police cover up in sporting history.
Not a bad video..shame about neil fitzmaurice jumping on the bad-wagon... he'll do anything for a bit of exposure... probably one of the fans without a ticket who shouldn't have been allowed in and so partially responsible...but that aside... good video
Really do think that’s very narrow minded of you
late arrival to the ground and fans without tickets was the major factor in this disaster, they pressurised the police to open the gates as they have on other occasions at Hillsborough, also the FA are largely responsible for the decision to erect those fences and if they had not been there they would not have died. this has never been brought up in the enquiry and the FA have cover their arses .These barrier fences were install on the orders of the FA to stop pitch invasions and not enough work was done on designs to allow escape in emergencies, fire or any other reasons, they treated fans like caged animals and if those fenced had not been there no one would have died , that a fact !and it is a disgrace and an injustice the FA have not being held accountable and brought to justice just as much as the police's alleged doggy reporting, Hillsborough changed all football stadia this type of barrier has gone in favour of all seating , too little too late those fences turned the terrace into a walled building with a locked fire escape doors and just to blame a fire or who started it when the locked fire doors prevented an escape, any enquiry would focus on the reasons for the locked fire doors doors as much as the cause of the fire.
They proved that it wasn't ticketless fans, most fans still had their ticket with the stub still attached because the turnstiles were overwhelmed, the independent panel said that a minimum of 750 fans would have needed to go through each turnstile per hour, there were 18 turnstiles for 24k fans, it was physically impossible.
@@Nat6999 you do not accept that the fans poured out of the pubs and expected to get in the ground in time ,yet everyone was to blame but them ,those fans that died got in the ground early and their own fellow supporters are the ones that killed them
@rgsnr8702 The police failed by not closing off the tunnel. On club match days the entrance to the tunnel was manned by stewards & police, when they decided it was full nobody else was allowed down & fans directed to the side pens that were empty on 15 April. The crowd outside was building up from 1 30 onwards, several of the turnstiles had problems & were unavailable for some of the time while the crush was building up, with all the turnstiles open there needed to be at least 12 fans a minute going through to keep up with the 750 per hour needed to get all the fans who had bought tickets in the ground on time. A lot of the fans had never been to Hillsborough before & only saw the sign for standing above the tunnel entrance, the side pens didn't have the correct size signage that should have been visible. A lot of fans who arrived late had been held up on the journey because of roadworks, it wasn't their fault.
@@Nat6999 you blame everyone but the drunken fans ,a familiar sight at Hillsborough on semi final days BTW, i lived and worked less than half a mile from the ground and have seen it all, the police made mistakes they are human ,you should as i do blame the FA they demanded the erection of those fences not the club and approved a design which had no emergency escape route ,as for signs they were the responsibility of the FA 's health and safety executive and the fire brigade not the police, in my official capacity i was asked to do a survey of signage for the club a week after the disaster and found little wrong with what was there other than recommending more signs with bigger lettering but none of this would have made any difference that day in my opinion ,simply put the FA should never have approved such fencing and the fans should have sued them not the police ,you let them get away Scot free ,and not the FA ordered the removal of all such barriers after Hillsborough what does that tell you
@rgsnr8702 Read the Hillsborough Independent Panel Report, they proved that the fans weren't drunk. The match commander for the police hadn't a clue what he was doing, he had never policed a match for over 10 years. Less than 8 hours after the disaster the high ups of the police were at the Niagra Police Club getting there stories straight, they sold the narrative that drunken fans had caused it. The report found the police, Sheffield Council, the engineering firm who had put the fences between the pens & calculated how many fans should be in each pen, Sheffield Wednesday & the ambulance service were at fault. Why did Siuth Yorkshire Police pay out over £12 million in damages if they weren't at fault? They sold the story of drunken fans to the FA, Margaret Thatcher, the Coroner, tipped off the papers, all to save their own skin. Duckenfield should have got life for what he did. Orgreave, Hillsborough, the Rotherham sex abuse cases, all covered up by South Yorkshire Police. They should have been disbanded, they were rotten from the top downwards, Duckenfield got to retire on a big fat pension, got off scot free.
Seldom give much time over to Heysel, do they?
Where are the lies about heysel? Where was the cover up about heysel? Where was the lack of convictions over heysel? Where was the denial over who was to blame at heysel? Where was the catastrophic injustice of heysel, (blame was rightly assigned to the Liverpool supporters) ?
Disgusting
These accents are ridiculously thick.
What kind of ignorant comment is that
Clueless
...obviously
What a disrespectful thing to say
They just sound like normal Scouse accents. Very easy to understand and I'm from the south
It's like the old scottish saying goes "when idiets wanna watch football, idiets gonna watch football".
What do you mean by this exactly.
@@pepsicola6232 It's pretty self evident if you've got an iq above 100.
@@Gonken88 it’s either your trying in some way to blame these victims .. because let’s bare in mind THEY WENT TO A FOOTBALL MATCH AND 96 PEOPLE NEVER RETURNED HOME
@@isabelhall5097 Uhm yeah, I watched the clip as well dear. Got all 3 💉 did you?
@@Gonken88 what’s wrong with you comparing the vaccine to children men and women dying at a football match? The youngest to die was 10 years of age You need to do some serious growing up
I have never heard a Liverpool fan express any sympathy towards the 39 Italians who died the same way in Brussels
Probably because they’re Liverpool fans not Italians ?
Scousers never expressed any sympathy for the Italians who died .... then, when Hillsborough happened they expect the whole footballing world to feel sorry for them ..... we never hear of the Ibrox disaster or the Bradford fire but we get Hillsborough rammed down our throats by selfish Scousers
@@carlhudson637 yes they did and went to jail to..why shouldnt the s.yorks police go to jail? In fact dnt answer that...ur either a plod or a prick ,or both...
I'm just a person who doesn't like hypocrites ..... Liverpool fans are the biggest hypocrites on this planet
Heysel, although a small minority of Liverpool fans caused the disaster, Uefa played a very big part by not giving all of that end to Liverpool. Hillsborough still plays a big part in the news because of the cover up and injustice involved. Bradford and ibrox were accidents and although terrible we knew what happened. That’s the difference.
*I'm not sure it's at all healthy for anyone to still be mourning the loss of a loved one 30 years after they've gone. But then I'm also not sure that all these people ARE still mourning the loss of loved ones 30 years later?*
When is it the 'correct' time to stop mourning someone? Just wondering what the considered, healthy mourning period is.
@@jmc7636 It depends on who the person was to you, and how you mourn them. For example, someone I know of personally - a 64-year-old lady, lost her husband 34 years ago in 1987. They'd been married for just over 7 years when he died. She's moved house 3 times since he died (because of her work/career). But each time she's moved house, she takes all her deceased husbands clothes, specialist tools he had, and which she has no need for, his shoes, sports bags, electric shaver, watches, old check stubs, train tickets, literally everything he owned in 1987, and puts it all in the drawers, cupboards and on hangers in a spare bedroom. Much of which most people would consider as junk. In addition, she's never re-married, or even dated anyone since he died in 1987. Because (and I quote), _"Tony would be furious, and I'd feel disloyal, like I was cheating on him."_ That may (or may not?) sound like an extreme example, but it's not at all uncommon. Particularly with widows more that widowers, and especially if their loved one died unexpectedly. Though that's by no means always the case. I hope that explains what I meant by my original comment? Take care JMC and stay healthy.
@@DrAnne-mc8er thanks for taking the time to respond, however you did not answer the question I asked at all. If your answer is an example of what is unhealthy then so be it but it still does not answer what I asked. Essentially I wanted you to justify why you think it is unhealthy for parents to still be morning their children who went to a sport event to die sudden and horrific deaths? I'm still perplexed by your initial comment. Further, wanting justice for the victims is not dependent on still being in mourning. The reason 30 years after their deaths they are still begging for justice is because not only did they live the horror of losing their loved ones suddenly and tragically, some being survivors of the disaster themselves, but they were also victim blamed based on blatant lies. I find your initial comment quiet hurtful, assuming your qualification is in a medical field what happened to 'first do no harm'.
@@jmc7636 I don't think *anyone* on KZhead has a legal or moral requirement to _"justify"_ their personal opinion JMC. Furthermore, I believe that to be the case regarding *any* subject matter. For whatever reason, you chose to _camouflage_ your anger towards me regarding my initial response, by asking a very generalised, and unassuming question, i.e. _"When is it the 'correct' time to stop mourning someone?"_ In good faith, and with respect, I answered the question you asked *fully,* in the first 14 words of my reply. So for you to say that I did not answer the question you asked _"at all"_ is clearly not true. However, you have now narrowed down your initial and generalised question somewhat, by explaining that you specifically had parents mourning their children in mind. Narrowing the question down even more by referring specifically to the death of children who went to a sports event, who died suddenly and horrifically. What I try to avoid on KZhead JMC, is becoming embroiled in frankly, churlish and irrelevant word games with people, exclusively for their own entertainment. Had you originally asked; _"Do you feel there is a correct or reasonable time period for parents to stop mourning the death of a child at Hillsborough?"_ I would have answered that question instead. To clarify your assumption, yes, I have three Doctorates in the medical field - a PhD in Medicine, a PhD in Psychiatry, and a third PhD in Social Psychology. As for your sarcastically loaded question of; _"...what happened to 'first do no harm'?"_ As far as I'm aware, it's still written in its original Koine Greek form, from around 420BC _("Πρώτα μην βλάψετε"),_ and still resides (allegedly for safe keeping) in the Vatican Library. Finally, and purely for educational purposes, the phrase credited to Hippocrates of _"first, do no harm"_ forms part of his work entitled, _"Of The Epidemics",_ i.e. in Section II of the Second Constitution of that written work, he states; _"The physician must have two special objectives in view with regard to disease, namely, to do good or to do no harm"._ The phrase *is not,* and *never has been* a part of the Hippocratic Oath taken (worldwide) by medical students upon qualifying as doctors. Again, take care JMC and stay healthy.
@@DrAnne-mc8er yes we are all entitled to hold our individual opinions and also to express them, however your initial statement, presented in bold font, would be quite hurtful to those personally impacted by Hillsborough. Regardless of your intention, your initial comment comes across as both callous and accusatory to the victims and survivors.
What about the 39 killed by liverpool fans in 1985. Despite 14 liverpool fans convicted of manslaughter your still in 2021 throwing bricks at players coaches. Think again simpletons
Not the time dude.
Really not the time! Children did that day men women! Research it and shut up! Thank you . I’m a city fan and yet Hillsborough is the one thing I will always stand behind
This is so foreign to me. You all blaming some match commander while people are just too stupid to stop piling on top of each other. It just seems like something that can happen when crowds are massive in a contained environment. Such a desperate need to assign blame. I wasn’t there, I didn’t see it first hand, I’m not familiar with soccer fanaticism, forgive my ignorance. But why such a desperation to assign blame?
Read up about it before opening your mouth
Because it was the match commanders fault, he gave the order for exit gate c to be opened.
@@goddessofsalvia1, who's your comment aimed at?
Claire Frier it’s aimed at Toby x
The fans who didn't have tickets but crammed in there anyway are also to blame. Mobs need to get their emotions under control. People should really be able to police themselves.
They went to a football match and never came home. Never forget the 97. YNWA
I was at home