Autel vs Xentry comparison and demonstration
2023 ж. 29 Сәу.
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Hello, in this video I try and answer the age old question
?What scanner is best for a Mercedes-Benz"
"Do I buy an Autel or do I buy a Xentry ?"
I run through the similarities and the differences between the two hoping to shed light on why you would want one or the other or both!
I hope this helps.
Lou Palomino
So far this is the best example of the differences
This video was a great addition to the other one you did about Xentry and how to use it effectively. Liked it a bunch. Love to see more and learn from you!
thanks for chiming in about the BMW stuff. I appreciate it and appreciate the nice comments!
WoW. I dont even own a benz yet and I watch a 35min video for a scanner😅 Definitely getting Xentry since I’m Only year one in mechanic school and trying to find a decent E class W211 in my area. Thanks for the informative video, you gain yourself a subscriber!
Also where can I buy Xentry without getting scammed? Seems to have a lot on the internet
Thanks for the video, I have the 906bt that I got last October, I’m just a shade tree mechanic and only keep my vehicles top notch unless a friend or family wants me to check their car out but I absolutely love the 906bt and learn a lot by watching you use it and explain the steps. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!!!
That's a nice comment. I want to learn how to work with xentry..how can I learn it .. doesn't it have any tutorials ?
@@zabanfannikhodro there is a help section. But trial and error is the only way to efficiently use it.
I have a Thinktool Pro (although I kinda wish I'd bought the Pros, I like the topology), it's based off the launch software I'm told, I also have the Xentry on a Lenovo Thinkpad I got with a Benzninja membership. The passthru is the chinesium variety. I also have a Snap-on Solus and original Modis, I only use the Modis for the scope. But an thinking of selling snap-on Solus as it sets communication codes just plugging it in my 14 W212 and will not connect, calls for an S44 key. I have other cars too, 06 Hyundai Santa Fe and a 04 Jeep WJ. If I travel I put the Thinktool in the boot with my tool bag.
great video! man I have an autel 808 and its is very limited. I need a Xentry. I can't find that Mercedes Diagnosis Pad 2 anywhere. Do you mind tell me where you got it? How much? Can I buy yours haha?
Das and xentry, also vediamo and Monaco. Calculators.
Invaluable information, thank u MTL! Do you know if the Topdon Phoenix Plus has airmatic tests similar to Xentry? I'm not talking just level adjustments, etc. I'm talking about the diag tests to test for leaks/etc. thanks!
So far yes, I have used it with abc and airmatic
Please, what do you advise me for programming and testing? Is it on an Intel device or a C4?
Damn videos you make are great. I work on BMW I just got Mercedes I think I will get xentry so I can do my own diagnostic and adaption 👍🏻
Thank you I really appreciate that!! 💫💫💫
xentry das dts and vediamo
Awesome video. Thanks for the very informative and helpful information 👍
Thanks for video, Lou I have a question, possible to use Xentry for Aston DB11 model with m177 engine, it will going to work or not really, because Aston have all electric modules from the MB?
Hmm, I would say it’s possible if you knew what gateway module was used from what chassis. Or maybe its even an option to read, as the scanner does have sprinter, smart, busses, and engines. So maybe?
Thanks Lou for another helpful and very informative video ! how does the Xentry get the updates and how often the software needs to be updated? I heard that the ones sold on ebay won’t update so whatever version you buy, you would be stuck with that version until you buy a whole new Xentry with a new software. Any advice on where to buy or on how keep Xentry software up to date? Can I buy it from you 😇🙏
Updating is not needed. If you buy one now with lets say 12/22 software installed. Its good for all cars from now all the way back. Only updates we get in the dealer are for new models plus any software patches for the new update. I would tell you that once you buy it youre good for only a few years afterwards because the starkey will expire. But we usually just change the date ln the scanner and it operates again. Wish I could provide a solid seller but I myself havent bought one in years. Pretty sure I got mine from mbstartool.com 🤔
@@MasterTechLou Good to know man. Thx. Any recommendations where to buy it from?
@@edlopz1722 I got mine from mbstartool.com many moons ago. Ill have to do some research and maybe make a follow up video on where to purchase. Just do your homework on reviews and such. Best I can say for now.
They dont update because they are cracked versions that run in virtual machine.
@@dannyd.8753 There are native installs out there as well but many are virtual machine version.
Hi Lou, great info on your videos. Do you have an email that I can use for a more reasonable conversation about issues with my Mercedes ? I don't have a scanner but willing to get one with your advice. Looking at the icarsoft mb3 or pro+ giving me the option of other vehicles orjust getting Xentry if needed to solve this car resolving issues ? Please advise..... Thanks for all you do with the Mercedes community. Thanks again
You can find me on instagram at Master Tech Lou
It might sound crazy but I don't use Instagram, is there another way to converse or exchange information ? Thanks for responding
@@robertsimmons7078 its not crazy I dont have fb. Only have Instagram to compliment my youtube. Id hate to post my email here. Maybe you have a family member with instagram to reach out
Understood, I'm going to try to download the app and try reaching you that way. Have a lot questions about my Mercedes and not sure what scanner to buy to get you the info you need to help me. I do a lot of work on classic cars and all types of motorcycle but this car is foreign to me. I'd like to give you a run down on what's going on with this car and some history on it but not sure this is the place to do it. Thanks for your response and I'll try to navigate new waters with Instagram...... lol
Thanks man i end up getting guy to remoteninstall everthing and just use open port got miles put back on new cluster no errors 😬
Great vid. I would love to see a video where you explain the diagnose with xentry in detail for one particular control module / issue. Lets say you have a malfunctioning right power window. How do you use xentry in order to diagnose, understand and fix the issue...
if you watch my autel video, I do that on my van, its going to be the same process with the xentry, but I can do that. I will have to find the right problem at the right time, or just make one up.
Im ordering a clone xentry right now. Hey Lou do you offer any of these services? Virginizing/renew & Cloning Mercedes Modules?
I do not offer these as I don’t have the equipment to do so. But I have a friend in Georgia that just got into this. When I can learn more about it I may venture down that path.
xentry das dts also,
If I am able to buy a genuine Star C4 (used of course), and buy a Startekinfo subscription, can I then program modules? Thanks.
No, the scanner will have to be leased from Mercedes. The tablet itself has to be registered with them. Im not 100% on this, I can inquire. But not sure they will respond to this as we are only supposed to use tech support for our tech issues. But I will try and get absolutes on that.
Mr Lou ive seen the mercedes benz star daignostic scanner set on Alibaba for sale at a reasonable price..Will it do the job?. Appreciate an answer. Thanks
I don’t have that answer
Great beard man 😊
Thanks! 😂
I have a Xentry, my daily driver is a Autel Elite. I have used Farsight, Launch/Matco, Autologic, 1,2 and 3, VAG, Porsche, Snap On and others. If I would have to buy only 1 scanner, It would an Autel with a subscription. I have programmed led headlights,, ABS, transmissions, VW DPF's Bimmer transfers cases, light switches etc. The Autel falls short on soft top, roll bars, pneumatics and doesn't even scan a 96 sl500 129.068! Just some that come to mind.
Thanks. Because I have a nineteen ninety seven s l five hundred
Where is the best place to purchase a Xentry like the one in your video?
Search for them online. There will be a few stores that sell them. They are bootlegged and some have small issues from what ive experienced but if you read reviews and do your homework you can find some decent ones. Check Mercedes forums as well.
Some aftermarket scanners will read old module SCN programming and copy/clone SCN to the new module.
Some vci adaptors with Xentry over passthru will not access SBC and Engine control module.
You can change mileage with an Xtool D8.
How to get xentry?
Any you would recommend for some one that just wanna work on there own car that not too out of budget? European and Japanese
YOU MUST have Xentry for benz or you will find yourself LOST. Launch, hands down for sideline scanner. and i have autel IM 608 and CGDI-MB and PRO for keys and module programming , Autel IM608 sits in the box. It sucks.
I might get flank for this and I don't own one yet but I'm looking at the xtool a30m as it's bi directional with no update fees compared to the physical tablet scan tool.
@@OneManOnFire see my review on it, I actually love using it . For the price it does a lot
@@MasterTechLou that's the video I saw from you. Hence I'm looking at that for my first big purchase scanner.
Little confused here. So the Xentry is subscription only?? ($100 month?] Or the clones will work fine without the subscription?? ? I've heard the clones don't work and why u can't buy them used. Pretty weird.
Xentry you can buy bootlegged. No subscription. Nor can you get one with a bootleg one. If you are a shop you can lease one through mercedes but its like 14k a year. And clones/bootlegged ones do work they are out there everywhere. Just the longevity is not guaranteed
my otofix d1pro is fraction of the price of the exntry but it capable of doing and look the same as the autel ,its capable of programming live data coding more bt ,and you get same results the only thing i miss is not having a wiring diagram ,the ability of knowing the circuit ,if you know that info can read wiring diagrams you can fix most any car..yes it takes longer without the help but cost that the exntry cost you could subscribe to multiple info sites and still only cost half the price then get full programer /and have change in the pocket, its sometime not the price of a unit but knowing how to use it ,all said like your info
How do you go about buying the Xentry from Mercedes?
Www.startekinfo.com
I would like to have heard this properly… with all your skill, do you think that you could turn up your gain, or make sure you have good batteries ? then there might be a point in watching later videos !
Captions are an option if youre having trouble hearing me.
Hola ! mi nombre es martin soy de argentina y queria saber si el xentry habilita la entrada de camara trasera de una camioneta sprinter con el sistema Mbux. saludos aguardo su respuesta
Hello, it cannot enable something that is not equipped, if you add it, you MAY be able to go into settings and coding and turn it on, but most of the time we have to update the system on the back end in a system called vedoc before the scanner can allow it to function.
C4.xentry das vediamo dts wis epc starfinder..here
What would be the Xentry equivalent for BMW?
Im not 100% sure , this might be it here. oemtools.com/products/bmw/
INPA for the older ones and ISTA for the newer ones. The multiplexer for ISTA is called ICOM. You can use a cheap USB2OBD adapter via Ediabas software when you only do diag but not programming. For some newer models you can use a ENET cable.
ISTA-D as a diagnostic SW, ISTA-P as a programming SW. Paired to ICOM HW or newer ones use ENET I believe.
I HEVA FEW W907 SPRINTERS , WHERE CAN I BUY XENTRY ?
full software xentry das dts vediamo ,full data.
It is just because you you do not use the offline programming. I can change the VIN on any modules with XENTRY.
Explain?
@@MasterTechLou With Xentry you can change Vin in modules as you want. You have to go to the right path to do it. I do not want to do traning on Xentry here. With Autel you can not change Vin on a BMS like Xentry. Xentry can remove shipping mode. If you want to remove the 12V battery for long term on a Hybrid or an electric mercedes or a smart you can not do it with most scan tool. With other scanner you do not have the troubleshooting path as you can have with Xentry. to programme vehicle with Xentry offline you have to get the software part number.
hello there what autel is this? thank you
MS906bt model
I’m really interested in a Xentry. Anyone vendor you recommend. I’m ok with a clone. Lou’s a wiz
I think there is a link or I referenced it in my older video where I explained the difference between factory and non. Mbstartool.com is where I’m familiar with and got mine if memory serves.
Did you go back to the dealer?
yes I did. I am helping train the Mercedes team and help build the reputation back up.
Where to buy Xentry system?
Everywhere….. there are tons of sellers. Ebay, amazon, online.
@@MasterTechLou I dont want faulty hardware with recycled components and cracked software that may work or not.
@@leonk8113 umm who does? 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
C4.xentry das vediamo dts wis epc starfinder..here
Well pretty obvious no multi-brand tool will ever replace dedicated OEM tool. Man must know what he is going to work on, do I take in everything from the street? Then OEM tool is useles. Do I do 99% one brand? I get OEM tool for that brand. Easy peasy. What is your opinion Autel vs, Launch flagship models? Looking for a multibrand tool and BOSCH KTS while superior also has mandatory yearly updates, will not work without them.
Where can I get a sentry?
almost anywhere, ebay, amazon, online.
C4.xentry das vediamo dts wis epc starfinder..here
Where do you actually buy authentic Autel
Go to autels website they show the sellers there.
great video, I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Connect W223 and set the service interval or replace the wiper sensor - you are showing a car that should have been scrapped 10 years ago😂😂😂😂
Yes well I show this example as the older S and SL are the most sought after models. Most cannot afford the 222-223 at the moment. And those that Can, arent the ones watching my videos. Glad I could entertain
How can this be a fair test when one machine is doing an actual scan and the other is just running a demo??
The video is showing autels capabilities to oem data, actuations and how its laid out similar. The simulation on the mercedes scanner is the exact same as if it were plugged into the car. The reason for this video was due to the amount of questions I get whether to buy a Mercedes Benz scanner or aftermarket scanner and since most choose autel, thats why I chose autel. Hope that answers your question.
GOOD VIDEO - BUT CORRECT YOUR KEY MAKING INFO.
What do I need to correct?
I'm sorry but your consequences are a littlebit obvious. Autel is a generic and cheap ($500...800) device for mostly amateurs, Xentry is a MB specific pro service device, it knows much more about Mercedes cars and most probably it's much-much more expensive than Autel.
I think you missed the point of my video. This video is tailored to people that commonly ask me what should I buy the autel or the Mercedes scanner. I was showing, how nearly identical the autel was in comparison to the Mercedes scanner but then I also show its shortcomings. This is an a which is better, more of a will it work in place of.
@@MasterTechLou No I didn't. I just can't imagine that a small Chinese firm manufactures a generic OBD2 tester for 100 brands 1000 cars, and that device is the same good (almost) for testing fancy complicated $150...200,000 AMG M.B. cars as an original M.B. OBD2 scanner software. Maybe your Xentry is a Chinese counterfeit device + SW ? Is that possible ? Do you have a monthly/yearly subscription at M.B. ? Is that a Xentry Diagnosis Kit 4 supported by M.B. ?
@@telelaci2 if you are under the impression that the more a car costs, the more complicated it is, you are way mistaken. I work at a MB dealer and yes its an MB dealer scanner. And yes no one will ever be exact to a factory scanner. It was merely to help someone understand the differences and see which would be better suited for them. The biggest differences are in the diagnosis and programming features. Scanners dont diagnose cars. Technicians do. And knowing how to use the tools. Theres a reason I made this video and why I chose these two to compare. You dont have to agree with anything I say or do. Thats fine. But its a very common question in the mercedes community.
@@MasterTechLou "if you are under the impression that the more a car costs, the more complicated it is" - no, but I'm under the impression that a Mercedes car is usually complicated and demanding therefore it's expensive. Usually it's a luxury car with tons of extras. If you are under the impression that the Mercedes makes simple and cheap cars with minimal effort, for masses, it's fine by me, that is your opinion I respect. "You dont have to agree with anything I say or do" - I said that was too obvious what you have said. It was expected result, without any examination. I didn't disagree at all. Chinese little firms like Autel , XTool, Foxwell ... so on, they reverse engineer the original scanner of the brand. How could that be better than the original factory scanner? Not mentioning the differences between Made in China, Made in Japan, Made in Germany, Made in USA. The protocols, functions are not documented, they are not public, most of them proprietary and specific for the given brand. Reverse engineering is not legal in many countries. You can subscribe for technical support at Mercedes (and at other brands). They will help you to diagnose the problems with the car. For good greasy money you can get technical data and support for repairing, flowchart for troubleshooting, methods step by step, tricks and tips. Autel will support you, how to use the scanner device, that's the most you can get, they won't help you with any specific car. If we put these details together, it will be obvious the usual rule, you get what you pay for. If you are a excited amateur, Autel is more than enough, it's an awesome thing. If you are pro, a M.B. dealer's garage you should select the brand's solution. Actually it's not even a choice, in my country it's a must, you must follow the Brand's/Company's rules and policies, you must use the Company's official testing devices. Please don't get offended, I think this is an interesting video, but I just expected your conclusions from the first second.
Launch eats it for breakfast
I'm trying to make up my mind on buying these, but most of the software is Chinese cloned, the EBay sellers never tell you the full story. The customs and import dutys are added at the checkout and blows the price out. Then there's freight at over $200 through EBay, the sellers won't post to your post office. Crappy laptop's and Chinese clones no thanks. Appreciate your info, but we need a video on how and who to purchas this gear, KZhead is full of amateur's trying to make an easy buck.
I believe I got mine from mbstartool.com
do not need 200$ ,man ,about 80 $ including shipping
Make a key with that autel thing! LMAO it won't do it anyway! _ most of what you are showing any bidirectional will do as most of it is in the car! .. this is silly .. You have to have IM608 for any key! AND I always end up using my CGDI-MB for that, It is much better. AUTEL IM608 stays in the box.
whats the total cost for getting everything you would need to makes keys/pair with EIS/ESL? Ive read up on it & watched videos but everyone seems to use different configurations of hardware
LAUNCH alternative is MUCH better for Euro! SUBS are CRAZY ON AUTEL! AND Autel wont do most of what you said either, and I have a IM608, the one you have SURE won't do some of it it! This is BS.
I have the Launch x431 and there a ton of things it doesn’t do 🤷🏼♀️
I have a launch, and autel, they compliment each other, none does it all.
My launch will not enable engine after crash event
hi Lou thanks for efforts and great videos I contacted you couple months that I need the xentry and ur advice about c4 5 6 you but a link to buy xentry!please can you tell me how I can get it and if have link so I can send you my email yours truly
I cannot help with that, there are many places to buy xentry just make sure to check reviews and forums for advice .