Hug vs Guenette Was Real Life Mortal Kombat - K1 Bout 2 Explained
2021 ж. 18 Қар.
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Hug was a Kyokushin Karate practitioner with an insane axe kick that regularly put competitors on the canvas. He was also proud owner of the Hug Tornado, a spinning hook kick thrown to his opponent’s leg. Guenette, on the other hand, was a complete newcomer. His background was in TKD, having won several tournaments. It was anyone’s guess how he would do transitioning to the highest level of kickboxing so late in his career.
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Boxing, the martial arts, and wrestling share an/each/the identity individually, grouped, and together.
I fight both styles, these point punches are actually really hard and stun when you make them straight on the face, the problem is that you wear semi contact gloves which make the punches effective and able to slip trough a guard, this does not work with boxing gloves unless you lock and throw your whole elbow in, which requires you to put your full weight and balance on your front foot, which is the direct opposite of your back foot balance that you have when you launch kicks. I also found Guenette punching while closing the distance to a range which is too short to punch quite often, dunno why he did that, several times it is also because Andy knows and moves forwards. Guenette is a really good fighter but when you fight a different style with different rules you really need the experience of fighting a lot of matches I am sure he could have done a lot better if he had 20-25 Muay thali fights before this match, Andy is experienced on fighting on the tatami with his Karate background, although it is not the same as Taekwondo his level of expertise in it on Champion level and number of tatami fights gives him the experience of what not to do when you fight vs someone that has good movement and like to kick e.g. never step backwards, counter full strength and weight after he kicks and close gaps. In addition Pierre's kick reference is with his foot and not his shin when you can kick high it is really hard to learn how to make low kicks and block them, the large boxing gloves also covers pretty good vs headkicks that connect with feet. It could have been a really good match if Pierre had the time to gaine some experience in the lower echelons but thats just how it went, there is not time and people wanna see champions of different style fight each other even if the rules do not make sense it brings in money!
@@ricardoblikman2676 Wrestling is all grappling. Martial arts is mixed grappling, and striking. Boxing is not supposed to grapple, but it also simultaneously inescapable, per how the martial arts share identity individually, grouped, and together.
Please don't apply the term "Master " so easily to Martial arts practioners. In reality it means so much more than the way your using it.
@@olderthanyoucali8512 "Master Sky" is the karate instructor of Little Rap Guy. He tells Little Rap Guy to no longer call him master: kzhead.info/sun/d9ijhZWMr4OFiKM/bejne.html
Wow, at full speed it just looks like a bunch of random flailing to me. But when explained play by play by someone who knows what they are looking at it is clear that these guys are insanely skilled!
Unfortunately this is the case for people when watching anyone with a traditional background in martial arts
Lmao classic martial artists in a MMA style fight usually look like that 😂
You were right initially.
The narrator give Guenett way too much credit.
Keep it up chillgamash. One day you might even actually gain a skill you could put on a resume anythings possible Lil buddy.
Kyokushin is absolutely brutal. My dad is 70 years old with a 3rd Dan and didnt practice for 35 years due to a serious injury. He trained me to fight kickboxing. I`m 30 now and i still can`t beat him.
and then again, he's Dad 🙂
I don't know much about Andy Hug, but being hit by that axe kick must have been like headbutting a rhino.
@@michaelwaynetucker Yeah, I'm more a boxing purist I guess. One martial art is good enough for me. :)
@@michaelwaynetucker Dont sweat it. Sometimes tone is hard to express over text
I hope every discussion on fight videos have the level of respect and maturity that you guys just displayed. Thanks for that!
@@michaelwaynetucker Not at all bro. You're good.
@@shivajibagal7568 Thank you Shivaji, I'm only this mature every now and then, but I'm trying to improve. :)
RIP " The Blue Eyed Samurai ". A class act of skill , fitness, humility and always respectful of his opponents.
With all due respect, a fun fact: His eyes were dark as charcoal.
@@andobraun5614 , personally, I never got that close, but his nickname was his nickname, and he was without doubt a fantastic fighter.
@@steaks652 of course, thats not your fault:) They also called Nikolas Pettas the blue eyed samurai. He was not Andi's level, but he's fluently in japanese and his eyes are actually blue. Maybe, to asians, we all just look the same...:)
@@andobraun5614 , yes Nicholas Pettas had that nickname, not sure of his eye colour either, Oyama' last Uchi dechi group, and a talented fighter, another great advert for the style, Nick seemed to leave under a cloud, but doesn't go into it. Wish you well Ando, Osu !!!
OSU legendary fighter Andy hug kyokushion 🐂 bull
RIP Andy. He really was in a class of his own.
Andy Hug spent most of his life practising kyokushin karate. A style known for being hard and dealing with pain. I practiced it for quite some years. You sure learn how to take (bare knuckle) punches to your body and kicks to your legs, body and head. No point fighting, but knock down fighting. The 'point fighting' kicks and strikes made by Guenette probably felt like a small child hitting Andy. And yes....Andy Hug was a legend and passed on way to soon. R.I.P.......OSU!
I'm amazed at his Hug Tornado, it doesn't look fast at all but does some insane damage!
Let's not sleep on the referee and his impressive exit pivots
Andy Hug is one of the all time greats. One of those few who had a measurable impact on our understanding of martial arts.
I’m not even a huge Kickboxing fan but I want to see how all of this epic shit plays out now. Thanks for uploading and making this easier for a dumbass like me to understand lol!
Muay Thai>MMA=Boxing>Kickboxing.
@@KeyserSoze23 this doesn't make any sense. MMA isn't even a fighting style. It literally stands for Mixed Martial Arts. It litterally includes kickboxing and mauy thai into it.
@@lazerrhino Fair point. It should be Muay Thai>Boxing=SAMBO>Kickboxing
Go watch fields K1 Max and fields K1 Grand Prix, amazing era
@@Team_Banchamek will do
Thanks for analyzing this fight. I had never seen it. Andy Hug was the fighter that got me interested in kickboxing.
There’s just something about Andy Hug ... Heart, Technique, Grit ... My All Time Favorite Kickboxer...!
Bravo
The first 10 seconds are so cool they look staged
Honestly it’s just unfair. The poor taekwondo guy was a great fighter with a lot of incredibly advanced techniques, tactics, and footwork, but stood no chance against Hug who would just stand there and over power him. I feel kind of bad for that but have nothing but respect for him simply for trying to beat mr Hug. And Hug, we all know that guy was a legend.
@@michaelwaynetucker true.
@@michaelterrell5061 he definitely cross trained on boxing or kickboxing while he was training in TKD.
I remember the exact moment when I heard about Andy's death. First it was announced in the media that he had leukemia and just one week later he died. Huge respect to one of the greatest fighters on this planet.
I had a hard time believing he had died....
TKD gives ana amazing base to start off with in MMA. It teaches control, flexibility, skills , precision so it’s ideal for someone starting out. When a person wants to compete outside of TKD then they need to move to Karate, kickboxing or Muay Thai- anything that focuses on power and full contact.
ITF taekwondo used to allow full contact, but somebody died so it's semi now
Totally agree, I'm a purple belt in ITF style TKD and I've come miles in kickboxing sparring than I would've ever before I trained
I guess simple stuff honed to the highest caliber really is the stuff of legend
Worked for Fedor as well.
Agree. Like in any art its the simple stuff done really well that stands out and lasts forever.
I loved the old days of K1, Pancrease and the first MMA tournaments so much. I was street fighter in real life with so such a sense of honor and grandness surrounding it.
Andy Hug is always the legend. Especially the axe kick. When I see fighter nowadays doing that first I will refresh my memory on Andy Hug for sure.
It goes to show the difference between kicking for points, and kicking for real. A point kick might win you a tournament, but a real kick might win you a fight.
Your background doesn't matter. Hug knocked him out with a punch to the head, and punching to the head isn't allowed in HIS background.
@@OompaL0ompa background does matter when all you did was fight for points all your life and then you go and fight kickboxing, hug had a kyokushin karate background which is simply better as a background for kickboxing than taekwondo is
@@yourworstnightmareramkaw6301 the style doesn’t matter but the fighter. Whoever knows how to apply their skills best to the situation is always the one who becomes victorious
@@c.galindo9639 that's well said but I also believe that has to do a little with the style practiced as well
@@yourworstnightmareramkaw6301 thank you
All of Andy's competitors loved him. It's a testament to his character and humanity. Andy hug was my hero.
Love that this tournament is being covered
YES!! Finally the K1 Content I was hoping for on the channel, with the usual great analyzing style you do. Thank you!!
I miss that vibe on tournaments...
MMMA you are THE BEST at what you do. I could easily binge watch ALL of your videos. ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING analysis. LOVE IT !!
Always a glorious and educational day when you upload. Great breakdown as always!
Great stuff, as ever. Particularly enjoying this series on the tournament...
The modern martial artist should be a commentator for a combat sport.
What an excellent analysis of this fight with the legendary Hug. RIP.
I absolutely love the commentary, it really helps break down the strategy of the fighters.
Of all the fight analysts on KZhead you have a unique talent for breaking down the intricacies of fights in a way that shows just how much technique goes into them, and how skilled you must be to pull these moves off. And for that you will always be my favorite to watch
Two things- Brother, you're commentary is right there with my favorite K1 commentator, etc. Secondly, Hug is one of my favorite fighters and the ref (can't remember his name) is my favorite K1 referee. Outstanding job man!
I love these videos. You cover stuff I never would have seen on my own. Much appreciated!
I remember a fight in History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi where a karate practitioner countered a more complex style with karate's simplicity. I think he used the front kick as his go to . . . while his feet were embedded in a tower because he was fighting on a vertical plane.
Silcardo jenazad vs akira hongo
Bruh...how jenazad died? I forgot ...
@@andreasoloansihotang122He misjudged a Thrust attack akira used and it pierced his heart. It was a intense fight
:DDDD yea i know, but such ridiculous example xD
TF are you talking about mate
Andy Hug is still the GOAT. 🐐
C'est juste
Hug was a legend. He inspired me to use axe kicks waaaaaaay more in tournaments. A thing of beauty to watch 👌🏼
K1 was the best some incredible fights. Remember Semi Schiltz doing a massive knee strike to some poor guys temple a putting him clean out.
My favorite K1 fighter of all time. Great commentary on the fight. I remember this fight. The 90s k1 was such a great time. Much like the boxing scene of the late 80s early 90s. Oos
I LOVE hearing erudite breakdowns of complex physical challenges like this. Kudos!!!
Wow! 2 videos in 2 days!!! This is awesome!!! Thank you.
You give fantastic commentary. Very detailed. Thank you…
This was sick - engaging and funny breakdown!
Andy Hug is a beast!
One thing Andy Hug did so well was using his axe kicks and various spinning attacks out in the open, not just to strike people but to make them back themselves onto the ropes. Spinning attacks and chopping kicks take up so much room that a single feint or use of one would take his opponents from the center of the ring to the corner with just one short rotation of his hips to front them into a corner
Superior Kyokushin conditioning vs TKD kicks that lack power . All HUG had to do was protect his head , get inside and chop away
Taekwondo has powerful kicks Mirko is a Taekwondo black belt and
It's not that TKD kicks are not powerful, the difference in training and experience between point fighting and MMA are very different. You can look at these 2 fighters and tell they train very differenly .In point fighting you train speed because that gets points, in MMA fighting you need more stringth and muscle for power and the extra bulk helps take a strong strike without being phased . Recently I watched pro fighter Josh Quayhagen fight in a local karate tournament, his experience fighting full contact pro level made him a very smooth relaxed fighter.
There is no superior style. Only superior training.
You should do a video analysis on the day boxing changed forever. The fight between Kim Duk-Koo and Ray Mancini. This fight was so significant in boxing history, the rules went from 15 rounds to 12. Absolute brutal fight. Two warriors. Ended so tragically. RIP Kim
amazing video. looking forward to more
Andy hug the man with hamer kick
Beautiful work, bro
This was an amazing video.
Nice break down man! That was a great video
Great analysis, thanks.
Awesome channel Bro. Loving it.
Excellent breakdown. You’ve got a fan in me.
Your videos are so good and helpful. Thank you
Been waiting for the next episode
Awesome video narration!
Nice little breakdown, cool video.
I always think why no one does the spinning low kick, its must be brutal when it lands. Hopefully it becomes popular in UFC, love seeing fighters doing spinning back kicks etc.
Probably a combination of spins in general being risky, and requiring a lot more energy. You could make those sacrifices aiming for a knockout, but with an attritive weapon like leg kicks would require it being repeated, becoming predictable and tiring them out more than traditional kicks. I'm sure it could be occasionally mixed in with normal leg kicks, but maybe they don't find it worth training if they only intend to do one or two per fight. I suspect it worked for Hug because of the relatively less skilled (world class at the time) opponents, who didn't have as many resources for tape study
Takedowns
@@colep5867 Hopefully we get to see it in action at somepoint but if your going to do any spinning attacks like you said its probably going to be head or body for the finishing factor.
@@jerichopagtama6771 Very valid point but people who are great off the bottom it might just be worth pulling it out. I'm sure its been tried and tested in the gyms and there must be a reason its not a popular technique.
The reward doesn’t make up for the risk
Happy to see somebody talking about K1
really nice analysis , liked and subbed , clever stuff
Really good points. I used to point fight as a teen, and when you try to translate that to actual full contact, it REALLY doesnt carry over well. And the other guy knows it right away too and just starts walking you down. It took a lot of subtle changes to how I attacked and defended to start adding real power, and being able to actually handle shots. Hell, conditioning myself to handle blocks alone from pull power hits was a nasty transition lol xD Most people have NO idea how much it hurts your instep to hit a guys elbow or his shin when he checks, or to have to take these shots. You get used to the pain pretty fast and it fades with conditioning. But point fighting really doesnt have that pop to earn you respect.
Hug’s been clinching with Thais, that guy clinches over the guard
Awesome! Can't wait!
Excellent analysis... Thanks.
That was awsome, and like how you explain the combat, it helps to learn a lot
Awesome breakdown. Subscribed.
Great editing and breakdown.
I miss K-1. Those were always so much fun to watch.
Excellent video ! Well done ! Rip Andy Hug !
David that was awesome!
Beautiful breakdown!
David: wishing you, *happy training* _Subscribers who's only here but doesn't train_ * sweats *
Typical story...the new guys never seem to respect the old warriors and usually get embarrassed because of it...it's satisfying to watch
I don’t think there was any real animosity or anything. It was just that both guys knew different disciplines and one guy just had to try everything he could to win
This is really cool analysis.
I miss the multiple fights in one night format. That's legit badass
Andy Hug is the greatest in Combat Sports history
Andy hug a true legend every strike he throws hurts and that ax kick is amazing
I love when he says "tournament arc" Fells like anime. Manly because it is too fast for us to notice anything and we have a master to explain it in slow-motion
This is amazing analysis!
Excellent breakdown
As a fighter, this account provides so much knowledge. Thank you!
Also, Guennette was use to always being the bigger fighter. So those hits would definitely sting with that size difference. Andy not only similar in size if not bigger just walked right through him. Tough opponent for his first fight for Guenette
Great matterial, amazing job. Cheers
Andy Hug was the best. Rest in peace...
following these videos very closely, thank you for covering k-1 fights!
Great analysis.
AWESOME VIDEO FROM THE BEST ERA OF COMBAT
I'm loving these videos 😍
Andy train at the same gym as me in Okinawa. A few years before me, but my trainer said he was one of the most disciplined and respectful fights he's ever worked with.
Unvergessen, Ruhe in Frieden Andy 🙏🙏🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️
K1 !!! man i miss it!!!
Such a brilliant video. Andy Hug was the man in his day.
very well made video!
Guenette had some great footwork and shift in stances but the lack of boxing technique and experience definitely neutered his success. And hug isn’t even considered a very good boxer in K1 and still had much better boxing. But love the series one of my favorite tournaments of the golden age of K1
wow very well explained. Thanks
Those were the times of real warriors, I remember when my friend had K1 98 on ps1, it was my first contact with this discipline, I fell in love immediately and Andy was my favorite character, from that moment we watched K1 with friends every weekend, great times, great warriors,R.I.P. Andy .
wait..there's a video game of K1?!
@@vincentnin1 of course dude, one of my favorite childhood fighting games,fighting illusion K-1 GP 1998/99 😀✌️
at 6:00. that music is MJFs theme from AEW
Andy Hug était un combattant hors norme avec une base de Karaté Kyokushinkai impressionnante . Sa mort la privé d'une carrière beaucoup plus glorieuse . Il resteras le plus fort techniquement en K1JAPAN
I mean please sir I love watching your videos I gotta see that Crawford & porter breakdown
I love it. K1 is smth else...