The Star Wars Iceberg Explained
2021 ж. 11 Қаң.
1 725 678 Рет қаралды
Thank you all for watching and please let me know what you think!
Original Reddit post: / conspiracy_iceberg_for...
Patreon: / wendigoon
Thank you all for watching and please let me know what you think!
Original Reddit post: / conspiracy_iceberg_for...
Patreon: / wendigoon
Sidenote: Sorry if the background music is overwhelming at points, I didn’t notice until rewatching after the post. Sorry for the inconvenience and I hope it didn’t take away from the content too much.
Thanks for making this! I think you should use no background music at all. IMHO it is always a distraction like a radio playing in the background. I could easily start a music track in background by myself when watching the video (my choice, my volume). A music track doesn't add anything to the content besides distraction and maybe copyright claims (and more work for you) :). I'm sorry, just my opinion. I will watch you anyway.
Idk I actually loved the background music in this video: since this iceberg doesn't have nearly as many creepy entries as the others, the video benefited from the score, creating a sense of adventure and intrigue that fits the Star Wars Universe very well. I can see how some people might find it distracting or unwelcome, but in my opinion it was a good call. Other than that the video is awesome and I can't wait for the rest of your Conspiracy videos
I liked the background music, helped to set the atmosphere
Um dude the audio is skipping what you say
Is this Star Wars City 1985? www.imdb.com/title/tt0250751/
About 2/3 of the way through this video, I realized my nerd cred wasn’t as deep as I thought it was..
Oh hey dad
Never expected you to be here but ,it a welcome surprise
well this was unexpected
Haha funni gun man
WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE BRANDON, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
To add to the ET thing: Remember the Halloween scene from ET where he's dressed as a ghost? When ET sees a kid in a Yoda costume, he kinda freaks out and follows "Yoda" around saying "Home! Home! Home!" Until Elliot stops him.
Thats dope
@@shoresofpatmos Here's a clip I found kzhead.info/sun/qqVqg7Cqh4qClmg/bejne.html
@@FoxJ10027 yoo thank you
That also means that the Star Wars movies are canon in the Star Wars universe
@@butterdog7236 Which might be why they say "A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away" - they're basically documentaries from the E.T. universe.
Disney claiming to be "family friendly" is like a politician saying he never lies
Oh no, I could believe Disney is family friendly, but they force all of their subsidiaries to also be as child friendly as them, hence why Star Wars is barely ever allowed to take itself seriously anymore outside of shows like Mando or Andor. Or the Vader comics.
lol that was only a theory and if that were true lol than ben or palpatines death nor kanan's wouldve in there
@@danielgiovanniello7217 lol really lol there is a lot of dark stuff especially in the high republic
So insufferably "family friendly" that they canceled my favorite SW Vegas slots to disassociate their brand from gambling 🤬
@@troymoriarty1970 wow your toxic
Hearing R5-D4 instantly agree with R2 and understand his scenario, even self destructing to make sure that R2 can complete his mission is why Luke exists in Star Wars. R5-D4 was the real hero of the Star Wars OT!
R5-D4 is the real chosen one!
There was another comic made that explained that R5 was actually a force-sensitive droid who sensed how important R2 was and self destructed to ensure R2 got to where he needed to go (I will add that this wasn't considered Canon even before disney took over
@@TheGuyWhoAsked2187 Yeah Skippy the Droid was Infinities, and was made as a joke by the people who worked on the EU to poke fun at themselves for having everything interconnected and every minor background character with their own backstory.
And now R5 is the real hero in Mando S3
Didn’t R5-D4 have the force?
Chewbacca being Sasquatch is also a reference to the filming of Return of the Jedi. When filming the Endor scenes in the Pacific Northwest there were genuine fears from the cast and crew that Chewbacca would be mistaken by people in the woods as being Bigfoot.
There’s was also a non-canon comic where Han and Chewie land on earth. Chewbacca is labeled as a sasquatch and Han becomes Indiana Jones
@@legojangofett1088 Yeah that’s what’s mentioned in the video
the thing that you are thinking of is that during the filming of rotj endor scenes they made it out as a big foot movie called blue harvest
I guess you could consider Northern California the Pacific Northwest
@@brown22sugar25 lol yeah, might be a bit low
Qui-Gon did not commission the clones. It was Sifo-Dyas who approached the Kaminoans and commissioned them to create an army. Then Dooku ordered the Pykes to kill him. Dooku then took over the cloning operation and recruited Jango to be the genetic template. Point is that Qui-Gon had nothing to do with the cloning operation.
And they only welcomed Obi-Wan because they thought he knew Sifo-Dyas commissioned them and that Obi-Wan was there to pick up his order (essentially)
@@MidanMagistrate or just a inspection on the product
Finally a cultured one
@Shifty Kubaz Dooku also attempted to use Dyas' blood via a transfusion with an injured pre-cyborg Grievous to try and make him force sensitive
Maybe sifo dyas cloned himself as a test? Would explain that both canon and legends could run simultaneously, and real sifo was killed by dooku while fake sifo dyas maybe had a lot of issues while cloning and went insane?
11:25 In the original Star Wars novelization, Obi-Wan casually mentions that "even a duck has to learn how to swim," which confuses the desert-bound Luke. A few pages later during the first jump to hyperspace, Luke suddenly starts thinking about a dog he once owned.
How do you know that? LMAO
@JoeQuinn31 As a kid I had limited tv access and a one-volume edition of the first three Star Wars novels. I was pretty obsessed and read them over and over again, to the point where I have a sort of Mandela effect with certain scenes and dialogue bits that only appear in the books. I swear Biggs Darklighter was a more important character to child me than he ever was in canon.
@@TheChosenOne66501 because he read the book
To be fair, he may have seen a dog in the desert, but probably not ducks since there wasn’t a body of water near him.
I think that if in attack of the clones Darth Jar Jar just killed someone with a brutal force choke and complained about having to force himself to talk in that accent, everyone would've loved Jar Jar way more.
That would have been the greatest subversion of expectations in the entire series. Rian Johnson, eat your heart out.
Well he was actually using the force in the movie. Some even on screen. When the two jedi jump from the balcony, jar jar is on the right of them, however he lands on the ground on the left. One of the battle droids actually follows him with its eyes. Later hes using his hands to aim the droid’s blaster that got stuck to his foot
it would have made me so furious yet impressed but thankfully Lucas's wife was there to stop him from making horrible writing decisions without setting any of them up
@@abbie_joanyour on your own there the jar jar thing would have been as great a surprise as the I am your father bit.
People believe that Ben Kenobi is using the force to make Luke taller “for some reason” HIGH GROUND
*obi-wan wants to know your location
Bigger Luke is my favorite stupid star wars theory
@@nectarina3891 It's so insane that it makes it hard for me to believe people think it's real lol, it's surreal
PORTABLE HIGH GROUND
And yet he's still a little short.
So wait, if Rey went back in time to become Anakin’s mom, does that mean the Lego Star Wars Holiday Special is canon because it actually showed Rey time traveling?
....I hate this implication but maybe
This can make a great alternative universe fanfic if created and dealt with correctly.
*oh my god, no no it can't be*
Ok
Wouldn’t that also mean that 3 Obi-wans saying “Hello there” to each other is canon?
An interesting fact that was neglected in the iceberg. George Lucas’s Neck actually contains a Venom Sack; with which he spits a highly caustic Venom at anyone who dare challenge his supreme creative vision. In a way not dissimilar to the Dilophosaurus from his good friend Stephen Spielberg’s film, “Jurassic Park.” In fact, some industry insiders say the scene was inspired by Lucas.
lol
This explains the jizz
It's pretty funny that "Ewoks have horses" is a theory based on a single scene in Rise of the Skywalker while there are 2 full Ewoks movies where we can see them riding horses/ponies.
R5 was one of the first on screen heroes to sacrifice himself and we didn't even know it.
Not R5 R4 Obi-Wan had a droid looks very similar to R2 he got his head sliced off in Revenge of The Sith by buzz droids.
@@danielcooke3732 OP was probably thinking about release order
@@danielcooke3732 was neither "heroic" nor one of the first ones..
"Obi x Padme" Sighs in Satine
Has no one watched clone wars?
Yeah i don't buy the obi x padme theory because it seems like he knew about ani and her the whole time.
@@kyraptor2521 This has actually been confirmed in series 7 of clone wars
@@kyraptor2521 I’m sure that hasn’t stopped someone from making “art”
@@workingjoe5599 rule 34
The thing that puts a wrench in the whole Ob1 theory is the fact that cloning force sensitive clones is near impossible
Nearly but not 0
Wasn't there a clone that could use force lightning? I remember seeing that in a cartoon when I was a kid
@@michaelphillips7207 jek 14
@@michaelphillips7207 that's Lego star wars, not really Canon
Well theory’s back on the table now Gideon did it
I'm surprised that no one mentioned the theory that since the Daughter's life force was transferred to Ahsoka to bring her back to life, that Ahsoka is now the living embodiment of the Light Side of the Force.
That would be... rather dumb.
that could turn but not here life force more that she just picked ashoka
@@LordVader1094 bUt MuH cArToOnS!!!!
*dumbfounding.
ew
On Han Solos usage of Hell. It was added in the books that the local religion/culture for Corellia had 9 hells.
Wasn't aware of this! Very Alighierian! Sounds like that could've been influenced by The Divine Comedy.
Callum Yeah its kind of cool they went back and added a bunch of culture to corellia in the old EU. Also got here at 69 likes which is nice.
Lukes Uncle Owen says "Hell to pay" in A New Hope.
Doesn't one of the clones in the show clone Wars say hell too? It was the one on the listing post with the domino squad
@@Cyadragon Concept of Hell in SW appeared in many cultures, and was slightly diffrent in each one. Mandalorians believed in something called "dar'yaim", where souls of Mandalorians that betray the code went (even if they were still alive, live ones were called "Dar'manda", or "soulless"). Clones were (at least in old EU) trained by the Mandalorian mercenaries, many could speak Mando'a and were well-accustomed with Mandalorian culture. TL;DR: Yeah, he did and that makes perfect sense
Gay Clones might also reference the robot chicken sketch where a clone is trying to find out if he's gay if he has sex with another clone
Would that be masturbation?... Wait no that doesn't work
So if you tell a clonetrooper to go fuck himself, he kinda could
They were kinda like Spartan Warriors so I see why the Gay theory is there. Makes too much sense.
I thought it was a reference to that one comedian calling out C3PO being even more British Gay on each new trilogy
@@Dakarai_Knight is it incest if it's with yourself?
The "Bigger Luke" theory is more easily explained by Luke occasionally wearing heels or platforms.
One theory which isn't mentioned here, but is probably the most interesting one, is that all humanoid species in Star Wars have a common ancestor. It essentially explains that all species with humanoid traits, like having arms and legs, have evolved over thousands to millions of years from a common ancestor, way before the first SW lore arose. Before hyperspace-travel was invented, there was a time where small empires ruled over starsystems near to eachother and only after the discovery of the hyperspace-travel species spread out over the galaxy. One of the first empires to do so just happened to be a humanoid species, most likely humans themselves, which came from earth (which is kind of SW canon) and evloved into all the humanoid species we know in Star Wars, like Twi'lek or Gamorrean. So, there is a possibility that the whole galaxy got taken over by the human genome, the only problem about this theory is, that in the beginning of any SW media it says, "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away".
Every copy of Battlefront is personalized
Which one? There’s four.
@@quantumyoutubeguy2 the lego star wars complete saga one
@@nicotinecnts how
Battlefront 6/14/1999 build
Ok
addition to book of the whills theory: all of the star wars movies are technically translations into english because the common galactic language would likely not be english. this explains discrepancies like “what the hell” or “geez” as it is a translator drawing cultural parallels in translation.
That's what I always believed, regardless of wether or not the book theory is true, especially since the written language is entirely different.
@@SophisticatedGoat222 even as a kid i always thought that lol. bc theres no way all these aliens and humans on different planets speak english, especially with different accents. its like we're just watching it dubbed.
English is a pretty good language for galactic society to speak, along with Latin. I'm told both are horrible twisted amalgamations of several other languages which were spread throughout the world through conquest, and grew bloated with the fat of words picked up from conquered nations--and nations that had in turn, conquered the English and Romans previously.
@@3mpt7 didnt think about that til now. good take my guy
The common galactic language is English. It's called "Basic" and most aliens in the Star Wars universe speak it. They just choose to use their own languages.
A defense for Han shooting first is that he was kinda being held a gun point. What would you rather do, shoot first and not risk injury to your self, or risk having your head blown apart just so you can say “he shot first”
Regarding the "OB1" theory, this actually goes deeper. Obi-Wan, when we first meet him in New Hope, references having fought in the Clone Wars. It was a throwaway line back then, but as nothing had been established about the Clone Wars in canon at the time, other than that they did, in fact, happen, some theorized that "OB1" was his designation, and that he'd been one of many clones to have served in the Clone Wars.
Can’t make force sensitive clones though.
@@dogshake Again, that wasn't established back when the first Star Wars movie came out (not to mention that there are a few examples of force sensitive clones in canon, such as Galen Marek's clones in Force Unleashed II, or the Cuis clones, created from the genome of Sa Cuis; That said, i'm not sure if either of them are currently canon)
I feel like the fact that there are actually between 40 and 60 planed episodes for the Clone Wars that were never made due to the cancellation should be somewhere on the iceberg.
Agreed
I heard it was supposed to be a 100 episodes only
@@orcatwar9810 that was their og plan before the show really gained traction but even before it was killed by disney it had more than 100. They planned to make 8 full 22-24 epsiode long seasons. The cancellation fucked up season 5 and 6. Only a few epsiodes of season 6 were finished and not all of season 5 aired so then they aired the rest of season 5 with the few finsihed season 6 epsiodes as the netflix lost epsiodes
@@sheev2829 yep One of the final episodes would have the vong show up
@@orcatwar9810 we dont know that it would be a final episode. It could have been in any possition in season 7 or 8
the phrases 'hell' and 'jeez' can be explained away by the theory that the star wars films are an english dub of galactic basic and so the actual phrases are changed to their english equivalents
Then how do you explain characters saying "dank ferek" instead of "god damnit"?
@@lukebell4738 maybe dank ferek isn't a galactic basic phrase?
Canonically Corellia has a hell, so that one's explained Jeez may have evolved from something different than Jesus
It can simply be explained by Earth being canon though; if Earth is canon and is identical to Earth as we know it in real life (an assumption, but I believe a fair one), then the idea of Christianity and therefore heaven, hell and Jesus would exist, however we on Earth as we know in reality are yet to conclusively prove the physical existence of the entity that is labelled "God" and since we are incapable of extended space travel we are relatively unaware of the other life forms that exist in the universe and are largely unaffected by any conflicts between galactic powers, so with such little knowledge of the wider universe and its complexities due to us being comparatively uneducated in such things compared to say, the Jedi, it can be argued, that which we know as "God"/"The Holy Spirit" and therefore that which causes life, miracles and such, along with death, disasters etc is in fact "The Force" which means no explanation is needed other than, there has been visitors to our planet (you can choose whether that is real or just inside Star Wars lore 😋) and therefore they would have learnt of our language, our expressions and our communication tendencies etc and taken that info across the universe with them passing it on to other life forms they come across and through this phrases such as "I’ll see you in hell" could easily be adopted by well travelled character such as Han 🤷🏾♂️ but who knows just a theory I guess 🤣
@@fenirozu3975 Coruscant is almost confirmed to be future earth
The original sequel plans weren’t that palpatine survived, it was that he had a plan for when he died That plan was for him to be cloned and “come back” as a much younger and more powerful version of himself
that dose say he survives tho lol
Thats still dumb imo
@@facepalmer1580 lol holy shit this was fucking 5 th months god your stalker. Lol says the same one not even reading the top comment dumbass so jokes on you lol literally the same thing you people are idk funny when your mad. And about concussions then will your your argument is both oxymoron and paradox circle argument, which means you have failed failed at trying to convince me because all what you’re saying is a paradox. Star Wars isn’t the real world dumb ass so it can’t have wear a spear can transfer their soul to to another body.
@@facepalmer1580 do you understand the concept of force her that it’s not the real world
One thing is that Leia did not kill Luuke; it was actually Mara Jade, who was still feeling Palpatines influence years after his death to kill Luke Skywalker. The end of her arc sees her fulfilling this last request, being freed of the dark influence, AND allowing her to reconcile with her relations with the real Luke.
thank youuuuuu
It wasn’t Leia that killed “Luuke” it was Mara Jade, who later became his wife in legends
Legends sure had a lot of dogshit stories in it lol
@@AdvancePlays they have a lot, heir to the empire is not one of them though. It’s one that on paper sounds bad but isn’t
@@jonahlancaster2651 Heir to the Empire and Dark Force Rising were great, but Last Command completely lost me. That's why I choose to appreciate the silver lining of Disney canon being able to keep Thrawn and get rid of that awful cloning business. Apart from TRoS ruining that again, of course...
Honestly if you look at it from the perspective that Luke fighting his clone is his vision in the Dagobah cave where he fights himself realized, its not a bad little side story. But it was also one of the cheesier era's for Star Wars extended media so theres a lot of garbage to sift through too in that arc.
@Shifty Kubaz if you take all of the crap that is in legends, it far outstrips whatever you may think of Disney. As in, there is practically no contest. Dozens of writers making hundreds of books and comics over the course of several decades made a lot of bad stuff, stuff that makes anything you may think is bad throughout all of the movies look like master craft.
Palpetine- “Yes, my perfect clone of Luke what should I call him? Ah, I know, Luuke. Damn I’m a genius.”
Joruus C'Baoth cloned Luke. Not palpatine
I assume it's a Jorus C'Baoth/Joruus C'Baoth thing (though that's also ridiculous)
Don't forget about Luuuke
Your clone’s name is Luuke? Yeah. Sounds a lot like Luke. Maybe that’s why he became a clone!
Here's a fun theory: Am and Karre, the titular twins from Star Wars Visions, might be clones of Luke. Am has a flashback that shows they were created by a group who look like the Sith Eternal cult. AKA, the guys who also cloned Palpatine.
While it seems pretty badass to have Padme being Boba Fett or well using the madalorian armor I think its 100% absolutely hilarious to have actual Boba be Luke's mom
15:22 I like to think that the helmets storm troopers wear are just really hard to see through. Luke even says in a new hope when the go to save Leiah, that he can't see a thing in his stormtrooper helmet. It was ad-libbed by Mark Hamil, but I think it explains a lot.
About Storm Trooper aim: Captain Rex while wearing their armor also shoots poorly. When Ezra comments on this, Rex complains its the helmet and throws it at a Storm Trooper and his aim is greatly improved. Makes sense, as Palpatine usually has things made to look intimidating or scary instead of feasibility.
Wearing a helmet not fit for you makes your vision poor? How woulda fuckin thunk it? What an absolute shocker.
Out of universe explanation is onviously plot armor, but "stormtrooper aim actually has a few explanations in-universe. Stormtrooper helmets had to adjust to head shape of each trooper, so every soldier had to input a code, whenever they got a new helmet and make it fit to their head shape. Stolen helmets couldn't be adjusted, so they were usually ill-fitting to the wearer. As for aim of actual Stormtroopers, in the moments of their highest levels of "incompetence" that is in ANH and TESB they were under orders to let the rebels go (so Falcon could be tracked to Yavin) and to miss Luke (an accidental headshot by any trooper would ruin Vader's plans of converting Luke)
@@HonestHappyHater But they're clones are they not? Shouldn't they be gentically modified to be the best killing machines? Or is this in regard to the original stormtroopers?
@@muertolamento The same principle applies to both regular stormtroopers, and Rex. You can't be a "killing machine" if half of your vision is obstructed
This is wrong. Storm troopers aim fine. Rex is just old and fat, so the helmet doesn't fit him.
Also on the Boba Fett killed Luke’s relatives there’s the line by Vader to him “no disintegrations”, which is oddly specific, considering we only ever see one disintegration, and he only says it to Boba.
Gay clones theory is also def false. There are entire comics about clones having children with Jedi and then having to help them escape Order 66 (among other things like the bar shown in the clone wars maybe being a place for clone “kithing”). I personally love the one that is about the aforementioned half clone child in which they have to fight to flee order 66. It explains that love is stronger than the inhibitor (or implies it), which, cool.
@@thegrekorian2465 There's also no way it could ever be made true. As a bisexual myself, I'm okay with limited to no lgbt representation in Star Wars, someone being gay, trans, etc. in real life or fiction will always ruffle someone's feathers and it isn't worth the hassle. I don't need or want to see Star Wars fans telling people like me I suck for simply existing. Even if someone like Dave Filoni said "Hey there were gay clones" we'd never actually see it since Disney doesn't want gay people they can't easily remove from their shit. Also the idea of gay clones falling in love with each other makes me VERY uncomfortable considering their shared DNA...
I really like the Boba killed Owen and Beru theory and it is now part of my headcanon.
There's gay characters in legends so I'm not entirely sure what you mean by star wars having no gay characters
@@The_Prime_Kiwi The idea of clones being gay for one another is so screwed lmao. They share DNA and all view eachother as brothers. They're a family in this war together.
There should be a iceberg for original extended storylines, it gets pretty crazy. There are some really cool books that some people probably haven’t heard of
Got any suggestions? I used to read some of them when I was younger. I remember reading about that one guy who was a Jedi then became a sith then became a grey Jedi.
**Timestamps of all points of the iceberg** INTRO - 00:00 **TIER 1 "BLUE SKIES" - **1:07**** -1:12 - Darth Jar Jar -1:33 - R5-D4 -1:52 - Han Shot First -2:23 - Jedi Census -2:33 - J. Campbell -2:48 - Palpatine Killed Padme -3:16 - Boba Fett Killed Owen & Beru -3:45 - ET Connections -3:58 - Obi x Padme **TIER 2 "TIP OF THE ICEBERG" - **4:22**** -4:24 - Vietnam War Analogue -4:48 - OB1 -5:20 - Plagueis Creation -5:52 - Black Angel -6:01 - Coke Nails -6:18 - Rey = Shmi -6:42 - Turkish Star Wars **TIER 3 "SHALLOW WATERS" - **6:52**** -6:54 - Extended Editions are Rebel Propaganda -7:23 - Eragon Connections -7:34 - Solo is about Lucas -7:58 - Escape From Dagu -8:17 - 1313 -8:48 - Endor Cavalry -9:21 - Mount Sorrow -9:34 - Jabba the Hutt Human -9:54 - Chewbacca is Sasquatch -10:23 - The Force Awakens DSOTM -10:36 - Clone Wars Lost Episodes **TIER 4 "MURKY WATERS" - **10:52**** -10:55 - Trade Federation ST -11:06 - Naboo Ducks -11:36 - Force Awakens Abortion -11:46 - Star Wars City 1985 -12:21 - Ani's Real Father -12:48 - First Script -13:12 - The Overlords -13:40 - Gay Clones -14:19 - World Between Worlds **TIER 5 "DEEP WATERS" - **15:05**** -15:06 - Poor Shots? -15:34 - L+L=R (Luke + Leia = Rei) -15:54 - Boba Fett is Luke's Mother -16:14 - Reformation Parallels -16:33 - C3PO Penis Card -17:13 - Luuke -17:43 - Christmas INS Lore Revelations -18:05 - Original Sequel Plans -18:33 - Mandalorian "Geez" **TIER 6 "BOTTOM OF THE ICEBERG" - **18:47**** -18:49 - Mad Magazine Timeline Predictions -19:16 - Kashyyyk Vs Kazook -19:56 - Solo's Hell -20:21 - Mortis -20:44 - Alien Exodus -21:32 - Bigger Luke **TIER 7 "THE MIDNIGHT ZONE" - **22:01**** -22:03 - Correlia is Alive -22:24 - The Jizz Age -22:57 - "Humans" Are Bees -23:35 - Original Editions Aren't Real -24:17 - Weezer Discography Parallelism -24:35 - Virgin Schmi vs Chad Vader -24:56 - Real Book of the Whills **TIER 8 "THE ABYSS" - **25:55**** -25:57 - Disney Purchase 1977 -26:31 - TLJ Sex Scene -26:59 - Hyperspace War Found Footage -27:21 - Boba Feet -27:33 - Real Star Wars Holiday Special Never Captured -27:53 - Yoda Species True Identity -28:39 - Every Episode is the Same **OUTRO - **29:21****
The "Bobba Fett killed Luke's Aunt and uncle" is a good theory. I always thought the stormtroopers shoot them and burn the corpses so it looked like they where killed by Tusken raiders
The middle ground would be Boba commanding the troops. He did that in the OG Battlefront 2
Nah the Aunt, in a rage, accidentally set off some Imperial thermal detonators while they responded to a domestic abuse call
Incinerator Troopers. Used primarily to punish people the empire disliked.
@@userequaltoNull brutal
Nah, both in the EU and in Disney's canon the Empire had flametroopers, so Boba being related is really unlikely considering Vader dislikes Boba himself desintegrating people It's likely Vader burnt down the Lars because of his traumatic experience with his mother in AotC
i dont know where i saw this, but i read somewhere that the entire story of starwars was actually r2d2 telling the tale of star wars long after the battle of endor, and thats why we see a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
Actually somewhat plausible considering R2 never gets his memory wiped, unlike Threepio. I kinda like this one
R2 is THE main character of Star Wars
@@dillonf.9425 I kinda hope this is true, it kind of gives star wars a historic legend vibe so to say
Yeah. It’s called LEGO Droid Tales. Star Wars(the prequels at least) are all droid tales
This isn't Even a theory, it was actually something stated by George himself
Endor isn’t the moon, it’s the planet that the _moons_ of Endor orbit. This is why the moon with the Ewoks is called “The Forest Moon of Endor” and not just “Endor”. Additionally, the Moon that the Death Star Ruins crashed on was not The Forest Moon with the Ewoks, it was Kef Bir, the ocean moon of Endor. That’s probably where the horses came from.
Why would a horse be on the ocean moon though???
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 they aren't horses and that moon isn't all oceans
In Star Wars Battlefront 2, Endor is the maps with ewoks. Not ''The Forest Moon of Endor"
I always thought Endor was just the name of the moon itself
5:18 for anyone who cares it wasnt qui gon jin who ordered the clones it was sifo dyas. the reason the kaminoins were so hospitable and expected obi wan was because they were under the assumption that it was the jedi order and republic themselves who sanctioned and paid for the clone army even tho they were ordered in complete secrecy by a jedi who was being manipulated by the sith and then killed (count dooku used sifo dyas’s paranoia about the sith threat to get him to agree to go to kamino) the clone army was paid for by the banking clan who was controlled by palpatines then sith master darth plagueis right before palpatine killed him in his sleep. thats also why the clone army was implanted with inhibitor chips to make them turn on their jedi generals when the order was given because it was all apart of the sith grand plan to take over the galaxy. its a bit convoluted but its honestly what makes palpatine such an amazing villain because he was just soo smart cunning and charismatic that he was able to take control of the galaxy right under the jedi orders nose and destroy them almost to extinction without really much opposition except for two duels which he used to paint the jedi as the bad guys in the empire. idk not a huge palpatine fan in terms of his force abilities and power but more soo a fan of how he was able to manipulate his way to emperor with one of the strongest force users as an apprentice. love your channel btw even more so cause you did this iceberg.
That thing about qui-gone being responsible for the clones is false, the syphodeis guy is, along with dookoo
dookoo™
Yeah I just watched that part and had to go back to make sure I heard him right. Not sure where that theory comes from.
Qui-gon, Syfo-Dyas, and Count Dooku
@@Turbs94945 dookoo™
Hold up, these names...
13:59 You forgot the Republic Commando books. There's an Arc Trooper who knocks up his Jedi commander.
Not an ARC Trooper, it was a regular Republic Commando.
Minor correction: the person who killed Luuke Skywalker was Mara Jade, the former Emperor’s Hand who eventually became Luke’s wife
The most memorable prediction I remember from that Mad Magazine article (which was released between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi) was that they thought it would be revealed that Vader wasn't Luke's father, but that Luke's actual father was The Force itself. Amazingly, they were only off by one generation.
I would consider myself a pretty big Star Wars fan, but I only knew a few of the things on this iceberg. Great video!
Thank you! And I was also surprised by a lot of it despite being a nerd
Same! This was a great video!
Personally I think that cannon and legends being separated was one of the only good things Disney did with Star Wars. Have you read legends? That shit gets so fucking weird and sure some things that actually made sense are now no longer cannon but honestly that is overpowered by how now all the weirdest shit in legends is now not cannon.
They coulda kept the old republic law since that’s probably what most people liked the most. Most people don’t really care about dark krate but they’ll go nuts over revan.
I will never forgive them for getting rid of dirge.
Overall though I massively disagree, because although there was some absolutely crazy shit, it was almost like Star Wars was in the public domain, like you can write any story you wanted and George considered it canon, but now everything that isn't made by a corporation just doesn't matter. Not trying to sjitt on Disney Star Wars media as I actually like a lot of it, but it just feels a lot more soulless as an experience, like we got something that was in the public domain and gave it to the most greedy corporation on the planet.
i agre but i say you're kind of being a little ridicolous
@@dann_playsow5811 true but the old republic is sort of boring in legends since its so like the prequels
To add to the "Original Editions Never Existed" point, Star Wars was constantly being edited. There are even some lines in the mono track that are cut from the stereo version of the theatrical prints. Before the special editions there were still a lot of small changes made between home video releases. There are a few different projects that aim to make the original editions available (Harmy's despecialized edition, 4k77, and others) that all have different interpretations of how the theatrical versions of the movie should be preserved. It's kind of like its own Ship of Theseus.
Obi Wan × Satine (Queen of Mandalore during Clone Wars) is a more plausible one, Obi Wan was in love with her, breaking the Jedi codex
I agree, I also think it legitimizes his empathy for anakin and padme
And Sabine's "nephew" looks a lot like Obi Wan
Obi Wan and Satine should have been Rey’s grandparents
This is kind of funny cause Obi Wan is played by Ewan McGregor, who was also in Moulin Rouge and the love interest was named Satine. I don't know a single thing about Star War but this first popped into my mind and I just had to share it.
@@citlaliurquiza2061 Didn't even realize before that Satine was a real name, cosmic coincidences!
There is a species in Star Wars called “Lanniks” An example is Jedi Master Even Piell from Ep.1, Ep.2, and The Clone Wars animated series
Did Lanniks exist in any other media pre-The Clone Wars animated series? If not, it’s possible they created Master Even Piell as a nod to the card/token/whatever it was that listed Yoda as a Lannik.
I think it's possible that Lanniks were created to cover up the mistake the toy company made. or were they already canon?
Oh, hey Han.
@@obijuankenbob Master Kenbob, you are a bold one
@@Sanguivore yes, they played a huge role in the comic "emmisaries to malastare"
Star Wars 1313 being cancelled was the beginning of my disdain for Disney’s Star Wars. I was mega excited for that game and I hope someone makes their own version, or a game with a similar premise.
honestly like if yiu cnacel a depamrt that game is proabbly just going to be cancelled as well and even than it can still happen
it coming
Human Jabba fun fact: Han always walked around his backside with no issue, but when they turned him into a slug to tie in with Return, they realized the tail would get in the way, so they digitally raised and lowered Han to simulate him stepping on Jabba's tail and gave him a pained reaction.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
My favorite comment so far
Theory: Anakin isn't the chosen one. This is shown in The Phantom Menace during the dice roll scene with Watto. Qui Gon is shown using the force to make the dice land on blue when it was clearly about to land on red. He wanted to be right about having found the chosen one. Anakin's subsequent downfall is the force punishing the Jedi for imposing their will on fate.
He did end up killing palpatine tho
@@ern45009 Which Mace Windu was already in the process of doing when Anakin got in the way, thus delaying the death of Palpatine another 25 years.
Would that make Luke the chosen one?
@@volublelizard2374 Probably. There's also a chance Mace was the chosen one, but when he died before fulfilling his purpose the force created another, that being Luke. Either way, Luke is the one who eventually brought balance to the force, so I think it's fair to say he was the real chosen one in the end. Of course this is only relevant if you subscribe to my theory about Anakin not being the chosen one.
@@jakefoley9539 I don't think Mace was going to kill Palpatine, all sources seem to suggest Palpatine intentionally fell to the ground and lost at that moment so that Anakin would see him and feel sorry for him, easily solidifying the choice of Anakin killing Windu. Palpatine knew Anakin's weakness was his empathy after all, so when he felt Anakin was there he faked his loss. Recently there was also stuff released about George Lucas giving info about power levels for all the prequel Jedi, and in that Mace Windu is a level 8 in terms of power while Palpatine is a level 9. So I think that's the final nail in the coffin that Palpatine staged his "loss" in that fight.
How did I not realize this video existed after listening to Wendigoon on the road for 50+ hours and being obsessed with Star Wars lore for 15 years?
I legit just now came across it and im a fan of both windi and the wars.
Fun Fact: Due to an Easter Egg in the Clone Wars making the Mandalorian canon, the Holiday Special is also Canon, as it is referenced by Boba Fett in, you guessed it, Mandalorian.
in a way it is canon but not
Just did some googling and apparently the holy grail does exist in star wars, it was owned by Thrawn
This is actually true, I'm speechless
Honestly, if anyone were to have it, it’d be Thrawn lol.
Dear Lord, LOL.
Excuse me?!
@@theicelandicnationalist2.023 It's true. In the rebels episode "through imperial eyes" thrawn has it in his office
What if Grogu becomes adept enough with the force to travel back in time 900+ years and it turns out he was Yoda the whole time
Edit- this ability is what also saves him from being killed by Kylo and this is why we don’t see him in the sequels
i- . . .why does this make some sense . . .
@@sonerec725 Pretty sure he’d see order 66 coming if it was true.
Well, finally calling him baby yoda makes sense
I wonder if he’s Yoda’s son. It does say he was raised in the temple at Coruscant
I try to turn on your videos to go to sleep (ur voice is mad soothing) but I always end up getting to interested in the topics
Im a firm believer that qui gon jinn would have made anakin become the strongest force user and the greatest jedi, but once he began his battle with darth maul he begins the duel of anakins fate, represented by the soundtrack playing which is actually called duel of the fates
Not going to lie the “gay clones are killed to keep order” is something that would fit right in to the lore.
Fits right into the "kaminoans being complete assholes" bit of lore
@Harvey Smith lmao
@Harvey Smith how are the kaminoans based??
If you give them the right outlets (to keep their gaze from wandering to their brothers), then an army of gay clones would work way better, because then you're not pissing in the gene pool the instant the clones get out into the galaxy.
@@demi-femme4821 yeah but they’re probably infertile anyway surely that just solves the problem dont give them sex organs/organelles😂
My peraonal theory is that the reason the light is able to win against the dark side while the dark side much bigger and stronger is that the Force is trying to balance itself, giving individuals of the lesser side more power and those of the greater side less power, thus creating a cycle.
KOTOR pretty much confirms that the force is 'deterministic' and tends to keep 'balance', even when said balance leads to the death of billions.
So if luke traines a new Jedi after Ep6, say Leia, he‘d suddenly feel half his power being gone? mmmmhnot sure about that theory
@@hajimeokajima the force kinda wack
This is described in the clone wars series when yoda visits the force beings or whatever they’re called
Except the light side IS the only balance, as stated by Lucas. It's not Yin/Yang, it's harmony and discord. Balance = harmony which means the Force is only balanced when the dark side is gone.
@Wendigoon Ive been watching for a while now and just wanted to say that so far Blood Meridan episode is my favourite. Well done mate! the videos are great
I’m late to this video, but when you mentioned Disney making SW less brutal, I immediately thought of the Kenobi show. I love that they brought back some of those genuinely scary moments.
if star wasr was truly freidnly then some of the deaths espically in rebels wouldn't have happend
Ok so just wanted to point out that that shot is not the only reference to ducks on Naboo in The Phantom Menace given that one of the characters also uses the idiom "we'll be sitting ducks." It's just consistency
I’m still salty about 1313
Me too man
Me too man
Me too man
Me too man
Me too man
Here's one for you that not a lot of people talk about. We know in TROS that Palpatine wanted Rey to kill him so he could possess her with Sith Posession. So comes the question.. was his original intentions for Anakin to use the same technique on him once he got Anakin to peak strength in the force in both physical and metaphysical?
I think the TROS Novelization kinda goes into this being his the plan for pre-lava Anakin, then later the plan for when he was trying to get Luke to "strike me down in anger."
I like this change in videos. I normally watch your horror videos so this was interesting to see! I don't understand most of the information but I will be doing my own research!
My theory should be on there. "Solo: A Star Wars STORY" is exactly that, a story. This story first hand being told by Han to people in the Cantina before the Greedo interaction. Basically stroking his ego and telling his own version of the story. The major events that happened would happen ultimately but he falsifies other info to make him look more courageous and badass. Thinking about it like this makes the movie better. Especially the "how he got his name" scene.
There’s also a line in TPM about “sitting ducks”, and there was a scrapped line from obi wan in a new hope that went something like “even a duck has to be taught how to swim”. So yeah ducks are fully canon and have 2 wookieepedia pages
The poor shots theory I find most entertaining is that the troopers were told not to kill Vader's kids. Like, they knew they were his kids and didn't want to hit the boss's kids otherwise he'd destroy them or something.
4:05 I would like to add on that in the ROTS novelization, (which is based on earlier scripts of ROTS before the final script), there's a line in which Palpa tries to insinuate to Ani that Obi Wan is sleeping with Padmé. I believe that the intention in the novel is not that they are actually sleeping together, but Palpatine is simply using both Ani's attachment to Padmé and his master to manipulate his emotions. However, it can be interpreted that the two might have had a less than platonic relationship. "'It seems that Master Kenobi has been in contact with a certain Senator who is known to be among the leaders of this cabal. Apparently, very close contact. The rumor is that he was seen leaving this Senator's residence this very morning, at an... unseemly hour.' 'Who?' Anakin opened his eyes and sat forward. 'Who is this Senator? Let's go question him.' 'I'm sorry, Anakin. But the Senator in question is, in fact, a her. A woman you know quite well, in fact." Not super essential to the theory because the novelization isn't Canon, but I came across it when I was looking for Bisexual Obi Wan stuff and it stuck with me as an interesting idea that didn't come to fruition.
The Ewoks did have real world horses in Legends (the Ewok movies had lots of real world animals), but what the Resistance ride in the Battle of Exegol are Orbaks, which aren't quite horses (they have tusks), although they are portrayed by horses. Also, the troops riding them were from Kef Bir, which is a different moon than the one with Ewoks.
Thank you for actually paying attention and not blindly hating things.
@@ericdickey6523 I mean, regardless of where they come from, riding a "horse" on top of a star destroyer and somehow winning is still kind of a dumb concept. I get that the blasters are for anything fighter sized or larger but the ship could have easily initiated a roll and dumped everyone off the side.
@@Relgar47 it’s not a dumb concept, if they roll everything in the ship will hit the ceiling and then the floor, violently. Plus using horses makes sense, at least as much sense as a bunch of Ewoks killing storm troopers with rocks
Holy hell I had to scroll so far for this. How in the world did this KZhead video think Kef Bir was the same as Endor’s forest moon?? Endor doesn’t have oceans, or plains, or like anything else in common with Endor. And they show ewoks on endor right at the end in the victory montage. Put me off for the rest of the video
@@Relgar47 I imagine doing such a maneuver while within the atmosphere of a planet would be a pretty bad idea. Everything inside would be subject to the planet’s gravity and would most likely be damaged. Plus, those ships were pretty tightly packed. The maneuver would have been difficult to pull off in the first place.
Have you heard the tale of Dark Wendigoon the wise? I suppose you wouldn't have...
If someone makes this a copypasta I will share it everywhere
Lucas explicitly said that Anakins birth was a mystery and therefore never influenced by anything, even before the Disney buyout.
yep thoi its the force that created him
18:32 I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one who noticed Peli Motto dropping that not once but (at least) twice I had to pause the episode and think on that one for a while the first time I heard it
5:02 Correction, Qui Gon was never involved in the purchasing of the Clones from Kamino, that was Sifo Diaz, Count Dooku's Jedi Friend. Sifo Diaz purchased the clones in secret after he experienced visions of Order 66 being carried out by what he thought was "An Army of the Sith". What he didn't know is that that army was the very same clone army he purchased for the Jedi to fight the army he saw in his visions. Since Dooku was his friend Sifo Diaz eventually told him of his plans, and once Dooku joined Sidious he had Sifo Diaz assassinated and took over the cloning program, that probably around the same time the chips that made the clones execute Order 66 were created. 5:21 This theory is somewhat true but not quite, in canon it is confirmed that Plagueis did try to create life using the Dark Side but during the process the Force itself sensed his ill intentions and retaliated by creating "The Chosen One" in Shmi. This was the Force's way of combating what Plagueis was trying to do. This is why Sidious doesn't even mention Anakin in The Phantom Menace until he meets him face to face, he found out about the Chosen One being found by Qui Gon after the battle of Naboo had concluded. This is when Palpatine's old plan was scrapped and a new one was created revolving around the old one, essentially he just updated his plan to fit the new elements that were introduced.
The throne room fight as a sex scene? Let's review: Heavy panting, lots of random guys with interesting toys, sloppy swordplay, someone's been split in half...
What about the Skywalker phallus being broken in half when Rey and Kylo stop using safe words and trying to dominate each other?
😳
Kinky.
Ur gay
While reading all of the Inheritance Cycle (Eragon book series) I started to see all of the Star Wars connections, and while I still enjoyed all of the books, you can't deny that some of the plot points are a complete drag and drop from Star Wars. I'm glad more people noticed it lol.
8:51 fun fact, horses have been on Endor for around 35 years if you take into account the Ewoks TV movies. I was forced to watch them not to long ago and my first question was "There's horses?"
lol really alos those animals aren't horese in the film 9
@@bullrun2772 true they're those weird skull head horses but those goats in the movie, they're literally goats no changes
Endor having horses is weird but Dagobah has earth snakes and that's fine. Edit: The World Between Worlds doesn't let you change the timeline, it's a predetermined loop. Like the Time Turner in Harry Potter
The video got that entire part wrong. That isn’t Endor, it’s a different planet in the same system, called Kef Bir. And they aren’t horses either, take a closer look, they are aliens that look like horses.
@@thomaswoodfield602 or horse-like alien creatures
I remember coming across this iceberg online. It's awesome to see you covering it as a Star Wars fan
Thanks my guy, it was the series that got me into movies
Found your channel from PKA you’re a great guest and have a great channel
Bro hearing about the red droid killing itself in order for r2 to complete his mission put a tear in my eyes
I’m reference to the whole Jedi being able to move through time thing,there was a comic awhile back where a force ghost (I can’t remember if it’s Qui Gon or Yoda) tells Luke that when you become a force ghost you stop experiencing time as you once did. He said that you experience all of time at once because you are literally one with the force. What we see as force ghosts is them temporary leaving the force to project an image of themselves onto a certain time period. They just don’t stay long because once you become one with the force you will always yearn to be apart of it again if you leave. So it totally makes sense that a Jedi could time travel if they possibly learned how to become a force ghost while remaining alive
“Supposed to be a book about the marines and their escape from the planet fallujah”
Stfu you know what I meant 😂
i think the Luke’s height issue is because Mark Hamill is 5,9 but Luke is canonically 5,6
Touching on the boba fett killing Owen and Beru theory, it makes sense also for Vader to tell him in Empire Strikes Back, “No Disintegrations!” Maybe Vader didn’t want Owen and Beru charred to a crisp? Also we see boba fett on tattooine with jabba while he is pressing solo for his money in new hope. Meaning that boba was in fact on planet during the events mentioned before!
btw the veitnam thing is literally confirmed by George Lucas himself so
15:05 I’d always assumed that during all the big chase scenes, the Stormtroopers were missing on purpose because Vader had given the order to pursue Luke / lure him to where Vader wanted him to be, without killing him.
Minor clarification. Qui Gon wasn't the one who was in charge of the creation of the clones for the Grand Army of the Republic. Count Dooku was, with him using another Jedi's name, if I remember correctly it was Syfo Dias. However, there were multiple theories going about before Phantom Menace came out, including one stating that Qui Gon helped create a clone of Obi Wan due to his death, and another stating that the sith were intending to make force sensitive clones to have sith acolytes that were under direct control of the sith, similar to the inquisitors in current canon, or Mara Jade in legends. In both series, the Obi Wan we got to know in the movies is clone numbered 1 from Batch 0B, also known as 0B-1 Kenobi. Additionally, Ben was his original name, with the Obi Wan name being taken by the clone, and later using Ben to hide.
Not making Jar Jar a Sith Lord because people hated him would have been incredibly stupid if that was the plan. It would have set him up in the role even better and proved the audience was right to hate him, thus making the audience happy!
I watched a video a guy did on the terrible shots of stormtroopers. They're actually not bad shots at all. Our most highly trained soldiers in the US are a lot worse than them. Real world soldiers take hundred of shots to kill one target. Storm troopers take on average six. Of course there's some plot armor for the main characters. But the rebels are demonstrably a lot worse than Stormtroopers.
This is due to the range of typical combat in the real world. In CQC, combat is much more deadly and precise, but advanced militaries avoid this for a reason and use other means.
Also stormtroopers are meant to be the elite soldiers of the empire not the whole army
another thing with the Padme siphoning, it would explain his "she was alive, I felt it!" line
When do we get to see that Denver Airport video you kept mentioning? Love the videos
The Luuke Clone is not only in Comics, but also in the ending of the old Thrawn Book-Trilogy. Probably one of the most liked Legends book series. Also... In the Corellian believe-system/religion or what ever you wanna call it there are 7 or 9 hells.
My headcanon for Stormtroopers being terrible shots has always been that they can't see properly out of those helmets. I remember Luke, when disguising himself as a Stormtrooper, says something about it being hard to see out of the helmet. It's dumb and makes no sense but I'm clinging to it.
In rebels Rex says he can't see properly with the stormtroopers helmet, whips it off and throws it at a stormtrooper
But the Mando helmets arguably have less visibility, my head-canon is that they have a system a la Iron Man suit that allows them to see
The stormtrooper *bonk* in A New Hope confirms that they can’t see lol.
@@emilyjeanine1159 Rex also bonked himself in the CW series, the reason is simply just plot armor lol
The actual canon is that stormtroopers have unparalleled precision. Obi-Wan says so straight out in the first movie, and he knows what he's talking about. That's why Vader and his stormtroopers are feared throughout the galaxy. The reason you don't see the stormtroopers gun down the heroes in the first film is, if they had, it would have ended the plot real quick... (And also there's the idea that they were instructed to let Leia & co. escape so they could be tracked and followed to the rebel base, but the troopers sure seemed willing to be mowed down en masse if that's the reason...)
Something I'm surprised wasn't mentioned at all is that Kylo Ren's entire character is a watered down version of a character from the comics who is also Solo's son and also eventually turns to the dark side, with the main difference being the comic character is actually very compellingly written in comparison to hot topic vader
That mainly happens in novels, not comics. Aside from being Han and Leia's son who falls to the darkside, Jacen and Ben Solo really aren't that similar and have very different psychology, characters arcs, etc. Kylo really takes just as much from Revan, but I don't want to say more because KOTOR spoilers. Anyways most of the people saying this haven't even read New Jedi Order and base this purely off of second hand information which makes the two characters seem more similar than they actually are, at most reading a Wookiepedia article. If you include books and comics, I'd argue that Bloodline, Rise of Kylo Ren, and Skywalker: A Family at War made Ben Solo into an at least as compelling character as Jacen Solo.
kylo ren: edgy teen(?) with anger issues darth vader: edgy teen with anger issues, breathing problems and weird legs
hot topic vader lmfao
In the Legends series Republic Commando, there are several clones that have children, including one commando named Darmin who has a child with a Jedi Knight Etain. The baby is born a few months before Order 66 and is taken to Mandalore and raised by another Jedi who's name I can't remember who ended up becoming a Mandalorian himself. And this story is one I really hope gets used for the Mandalorian series because it's just a fun one.
I thought he was going to try to explain all the lore in half an hour but this is just as great. I hadn't heard of any of these and I thought I knew pretty much all there was to know