China court orders man to pay wife for housework - BBC News
2021 ж. 23 Ақп.
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A Beijing divorce court has ordered a man to compensate his wife for the housework she did during their marriage, in a landmark ruling.
The woman will receive 50,000 yuan ($7,700; £5,460) for five years of unpaid labour.
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What title suppose to be: “man to pay EX-Wife...” it is a divorce court. You’re welcome!
Good point!
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BBC Fake news channels are paying attention to China again, can't they pay attention to the mutant virus in Britain?
@@XX-wn8xv China actually exists...
@@davidjacobs828 The British only make up childish fake news
I wonder where the BBC got their 'doing housework' stock footage lol
Their janitor probably
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I wondered this too and I was in it...!
That's Theresa May doing some actual work.
I agree a man should pay if he's wasting a woman's time for several years.
This is a Toxic relationship, house work is everybody responsibility I would not let my wife do the house work alone or let my wife have me do all the house work alone
Depends on if both of you are working. If you don’t have kids and one of you does work, it’s fair that that person is in charge of the housework
Simp
@Alien_ee lol did I hurt your feelings Mr.simp??... Oh stfu simp
If I'm working 60 hour work weeks I'm not pulling her slack on top of that. We all should do our part not support leeches
I appreciate your thoughts
This is like spousal support. But it's good to see that people finally see chores as a full-time job.
That's more reasonable than UK's law that awards half the husband's assets to the housewife regardless.
It's the same thing. This is just money on top of that
If someone does the bulk of the DIY are they to be paid the amount saved by not using a builder? Are they making a marrage the sum of tasks completed? £4000 for cleaning but owe £40,000 for works carried out. -£200 for the shelf that was never put up.
The way I do the housekeeping I’d get a quid and a bag of quavers if I’m lucky
Are quavers still available ? I used to Love quavers. And those prawn cocktail shell thingys that melted in your mouth!
@@Healing_In_Jesus_Christ Yes quavers are still available. Not only that but they have brought out their old flavours of salt and vinegar and prawn cocktail.
@@Healing_In_Jesus_Christ I think "skips" is the snack with the prawn shells that melt in your mouth. Oh the days...
This is great to hear.
Trying to encourage men staying in marriage by discouraging marriage lol
I think it's to encourage woman to marry, as in asian countries, once the woman is married, they are expected to handle all the domestic work. That includes the whole husband's family (aka working and cooking for large crowds of people every time they have a family union, national holidays, new year eve, lunar new year, harvest moon festival, and the annual memorial of any deceased ancestor and family member). Roughly, on average, it means catering for a crowd of 50-80 people every month (if you're lucky) or every 2 weeks. Yup, with all of the household work + childbearing/raising (usually falls solely as the wife's responsibility), they have to take times off work. It's acceptable in asian countries for the husband to neglect their family and any housework because they are "working". And the wife has to take time off work, or do not work at all to "sacrifice" for her husband's career. They have to live a life fully dependent on their husband. So with no career prospect, no future career after getting married, more and more women in Asia are choosing to not marry at all. And you think the trial decision is unfair?
The truth is a lot of women have to stay in the toxic relationship with their abusive husband, because they couldn't find a job after 5-7 years working as a maid in their marriage. And society either blames them for "taking too much credit of them doing housework" or "not tolerant enough of their husband" or "not sacrifice enough for their children's future" and making their children at a disadvantage being raised in a single-parent household. That's Asian countries' stigma, always forgetting the man's responsibilities and taking the woman's sacrifice for granted. How convenient it is to blame someone who has little to no voice at all in a relationship, isn't it?
@@NhiNguyen-tj4co india doesn't represent whole Asia, u are talking about India only 🤣
@@an_observer9190 Have you ever lived and talked to people who lived in Asia at all. China, Japan, Korea, and most of southeast asia, we are pretty much sharing the same culture. If you haven't lived there long enough, and just visiting as a tourist, then you might not be aware of such fact
@@an_observer9190 the only difference is in Asia, we can choose to not marry at all. So the age of marriage for women has been on the increase in these past few years (ppl are waiting much later to get married). If you ever go back to rural areas, it's not uncommon for a family to have a feast of 80-100 people regularly (the number is smaller 50-80 in the city). And the women are pushed to give birth to a male heir, no matter how many children she has birthed previously.
Chinese: what’s so funny about breakup fee?
It’s not funny it’s just the stupidest thing ever created
@@madcircle0461 Only stupid if youre a husband who is unaccustomed to getting called out for ditching his free live-in maid without consequences.
It depends. In first tier cities the average salary is about 1.8 k usd per month. But in rural China, the average may as low as 500 usd per months.
Karens : im about to end my husband whole career
They should if they are dicks.
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Dude that woman must've quitted her job, just so she can be a house wife and a mother to their children. Family is a shared responsibility, not just woman. Just because men go to work, doesn't mean what she's doing at home is not work. Don't just compare her to Karen.
@Henry Merivale what can i do othervise?
@@Kylelongwest but you can’t deny that some lazy ass Karens will take opportunity from this news..
It's already a thing here. it's called Alimony.
It's not. Alimony is a severance package. This court decision is back-pay for broken contract.
You also need to pay her parents roughly about 50k~180k USD (depends on the cities) when you two get married.
Really?
@@spaceman69 yes. personal experience.
Why can't you get an actual chinese person who grew up in China and knows what they are talking about to cover news from China?
The whole idea is for BBC to spin it
BBC?
That's because is BBC they make their own story
So when discussing the West China hires westerners to talk about it? Are you trying to claim oppression points here?
@@edwardiiiofengland9337 Actually we do, but CGTN is banned in UK, so you can’t see.
"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities”.
All that law and this case will do is force people to sign prenuptial agreements that exclude them from this kind of penalty.
Pre nuptial agreements aren’t worth shit. They are contractual by nature, when equity and trusts are applied the remedy is restitution. The ability to divorce with ease has ended marriage.
At least in the UK, the prenuptial agreement is very hard to enforce. I had a look into this for myself
Right. The prenup usually still has money set aside for housewifes as they gave up work to rule the household. I'm uncomfortable with how men men are comfortable leaving their exwife destitute.
Most countries do not enforce prenuptials. Just like most countries dont simply allow people to own guns
As a Chinese i want to say that's so funny
@BBC: Please share your sources for this information, thank you
Well, there are politicians in Kerala, India that wants this to be the law.
I actually agree with this.
I'm female and I don't.
His wife should get a real job
He wanted and enjoyed her doing that job.
@@zainzoala1083 Doing own house work is never a job. As a single I am doing this myself every day and nobody pays me for that and it's correct this way.
How'd u know she didn't?
I had a friend that broke up with his girlfriend and had to pay USD2500 for 3 years of, let's say, engagement. In China, where I lived for 10 years, you can 'hire' a lot of lady's services for this money. Besides, you can change partner, no mother in law and/or brother in law.
DISGUSTING.
Will the man be paid for boarding/lodging her, food she ate, clothes she wore, vacation expenses, medical expences, etc ???
But what if the wife doesn't do anything else not even a job, then I think she has to at least do housework if he is not earning
Yes!!!!!
The divorce rate in China is like the GameStop stock price
So? It's still below many western countries like the US. And at least for some toxic relationship, it's just better to end it
Very good decision Hope to also start in Bangladesh and India
Nice One 👌
Her commented regard to boyfriend to compensated girlfriend upon breakout, found to be incorrect. Her commented was misleading.
In order to avoid the same fate as this man, from now on I'll start doing all the housework myself. My wife won't get a dime if we ever get a divorce HAHA
Better yet your wife pays you for doing the housework
@@JD-hi5ne yes, gotta be smart haha
Yep, that'll show her. Bet she's kicking herself... (Note to self: "accidentally" direct my husband to this video.)
cool! the good court
Wow! Finally!
😂😂😂 this is bollocks
That's great
That's really interesting.
Excellent...
Good
Man be like - "law** lag gaye"
Totally bs
Then women should pay him too for food, rent, clothes, cosmetics & others. RIP "Right to equality".
I’m sure she earned her own money for those things
Yaaaas
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thats great
Do NOT get Married Fellas!!!!
This is gonna be a boom for prenups
much better than our USA system in many ways!
Wow what an important news this is.
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How did this make the news? BBC loves focusing on China.
Massive dislike so wrong
Hahaha they split and she wants money from that 😂
Needs higher wages!!!!
Why does life have to be so complicated? 🥴
Wife: sweeps the floor Also wife: you OWE ME
This is to give women more protection and let husbands know that women are also hard at home doing housework.
Absolutely, we should pay them for giving birth too, in labour. Lets charge everyone for everything! Its not about duty but respect! "👊"
@@DiscipleShaynePlaylist This law only comes into effect upon divorce and has very little money, it only protects women, this is a sign that women's rights are guaranteed in China, the sexist will never understand
@@DiscipleShaynePlaylist Those nations with low birthrate actually does pay for giving birth lol
will we get a scripted list of the top chores...
Will it involve a contract?
For hundreds of years women have been doing and continue doing the bulk of unpaid labor, which includes domestic chores and child-rearing. Society would not even exist without that "invisible" labor. If you pay your nanny, maid, cook, etc., then you owe that to your "housewife" as well. Otherwise it's exploitation. If roles are reversed, then a "househusband" should also be paid for that same labor.
What happens if she misses a bit , do you dock her wages accordingly ?
@@garyk1334 Andrew Yang 's ubi also account for that.
If you want to get paid, sign a job contract with your husband. If he refuses, don't do it, but dont come later to extort him making him pay for something you accorded to do voluntarily. Otherwise, she should pay him at the very least 10 times more, for all the food, gas, water, light, transport and shelter she received from him for years. Even if he accorded to do it for free sinc they were married, it wouldn't matter at all under this logic, unless we're clearly biased and sexist.
when the whole news is about someone talking nonsense without any proof can make such a headline
I am owed so much money... xD
Never marry simple 😂 😂 😂
Shouldn't "divorce court" be translated "family court" or more literally "marriage court"?
Why is this news?
Who says Two Thousand and Twenty? Lmao.
@@kmick8108 I bet this guy says twenty nine for 2009. Ignore the bufoonery.
In China usually the male has to pay everything for the date such as movies tickets, dinners, transportation fee etc. That is the traditional Chinese culture.
@@joaocaldeira8333 like Portugal too?
I’m Chinese and it is not true
@@joaocaldeira8333 male in china has to pay everything...not true.
@@lovewyb85LOL, I don’t know which country you come from but I am certain you are not from China.
BBC newsnight turned off comments after bbc spin of snp cover up didn’t sway public ?
I thought bbc was banned in china.
Can we talk about the break-up fee? How does feminists of China explain this? (Legitimate question - no political rants or toxicity please)
I finally find something great about China from this news 😆
How did bbc got the footage of that wife cleaning the house in the video. Lol 🤣
Cringe
Outstanding decision .
tripe.
Yep sexism I know you paid for everything and that I had money and everything I needed but I want to see you for the time that I spent taking care of our children well you were away from our child at our home making sure that we have enough money it should be taking care of further proof that marriage for men is not worth while
Good, about time women's unpaid contribution is noted in relationships, especially stay at home mothers. And the title is misleading.
This is so gonna encourage people to get married.
Another reason not to get married you say?
i honestly dont know what to make of this, since i dont know the details of their mariage. But i can see this backfiring for the government.
The British has the woman charter, which is bias towards the men.
Yup, this is bad
@@kmick8108 women have education and jobs , why should woman charter still exists.
They forgot to include sex salary, psychology time listening and talking husband.
Then no one would want to get married in China if this law is introduced.
Alimony for the Pre-Divorcee
Another Segway to the universal basic incomes
Or, you know, a segway into not thinking housewives are slaves.
@@tylerknight99 or a Segway into not thinking husbands are slaves....or not thinking that going into debt is slavery....but woke culture doesn’t think, they just perpetuate the narrative they are given. Only a idiot sees a woman or man who provides for their home and family as a slave. If you believe that and you are a evolutionist, that makes you a evolutionary dead end in your book.
@@estimatingonediscoveringthree Low information people need to invoke evolution to avoid taking ownership of their concerning social beliefs. You're not a tribal human, and paleoanthropology from 10K years ago doesn't control your social life anymore than it gives you a caveman unibrow (unless you have one). Further, cowards try to dismiss any criticisms to their world view by decrying wokeness instead of grappling with the merits of their own stances. All these are measure to skirt around TALKING DIRECTLY about the power and labor imbalance central to the terms and conditions of a housewife. And to avoid talking honestly about the urge to protect the strength of this imbalance. Why do you want to protect it so badly? Why is the structure of another individuals life so concerning to you? Unless you benefit or suffer from the arrangement, you shouldn't have a fuck to give. Something smells like you benefit and are keen on protecting that benefit. So let's go to the literal dictionary, and notice some uncomfortably close parallels to slave-like labor in the institution of traditional marriage. Define "slave": *"a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.": a wife who is legally married to a man, and is expected to heed their husband's requests for sex/dinner/moving towns/cleaning in this traditional arrangement. *"a person who works very hard without proper remuneration or appreciation": wives get no material compensation for housework; they receive the psychological satisfaction of the family they work to build, which the husband may also destroy at their whim via divorce (i.e. they are never given full ownership of this 'payment' ). *"a person who is excessively dependent upon or controlled by something": housewives have no financial independence by social design, and cannot exercise financial power to control the relationship due to her dependence on his income. The husband can exercise financial control without limit if the wife does not listen. If the wife is unhappy with her marriage, she does not have the means to leave, as it would mean owning nothing and losing everything: powerless. The purpose of a housewife is for the woman to subscribe to a life where they derive all satisfaction and value as a human being out of being an accessory to the life of a man. Now in a circumstance where the independence to self-determine is forbidden and daily work without pay is demanded, this is a structure of control of one's life that is, if not slave-like, is subjugation. Pre-feminism, should a woman defy this system of marriage, they would have no access in society to opportunity or community (see socially rejected 'spinsters'). That is why women decided to get jobs. They wanted them. And in present day, if your spouse sacrifices income they could have been making in order to dutifully serve your home for 90% less than the cost of a live-in maid, they experience damages if you ditch them. It's so so simple.
@@tylerknight99 all your assertions are wrong. marriage is the tried and true glue to society. It brings stability to all in its bonds, unless you abandon its function. You sound like you come from a world that has abondoned the concept of a functioning marriage. Before I continue, answer the following question honestly: did you grow up without a Dad? (Or mom?)
@@estimatingonediscoveringthree you mistake marriage for human love. Love is what glues society together, and it is what brings stability to all bonds and relationships we hold. A marriage without love is a prison. But love without marriage is not. Therefore, marriage is a social institution that was made to formalize the commitment of love. It is nothing more fundament or more sacred than that formalism. We look to the varieties of marriage all over the world, from polygamy, to dowry, to cousin-marriage, to monogamy, to same-sex marriage, to polyamory, to polyandry, to common-law cohabitation, to conditional and arranged marriage, we see that the diversity and robustness of human love resists the definition of any single social formalism. Marriage is shaped by the fundamental nature of human love, not the other way around, and defense of the practices of one specific tradition as the sole method of holding society together is yet another tactic to avoid DIRECTLY AND HONESTLY discussing the fundamental power imbalance baked into the terms and conditions of traditional monogamous marriage. Given this diversity of type, and the proof that all is well for society and families who operate within these various legal and extra-legal structures to define love, there is no nature-based moral justification to explain a legal stewardship that deprives one member of significant autonomy without recourse. When love and marriage can take so many forms, there is no reason the partners cannot be equal in power. To demand that one side be less powerful is unethical. The only way to ethically support the traditional imbalanced gender roles of marriage is to realize the value of the spouse's labor could be earning them power, money, or independence elsewhere, and to consequently give that spouse the security that their work has value: hence this court decision ordering payment in the case of divorce. Does this not make sense? Do you think it's fair to expect someone who gives up their life for someone else should be guaranteed nothing for that sacrifice? To answer yes implies you fundamentally value their life and independence less than yours.
nuisance communism is, isn't it bbc?
Can we just call it alimony and leave out the feminist righteousness?
Fkn really.
Can i charge both my ex's for 40 years RENT?
Too much blood, sweat, tears, and grease
I’m writing up my bill as this video plays. Boy oh boy will my husband be broke. LOL. Doing the dishes $20 making dinner $25 cleaning the house $50. Giving my husband a $800 bill for my services. PRICELESS!!! 😂. That’s a wrap for the new Visa commercial. 😂😂😂
lets start demanding that here too haha
A wife looks after her husband, her home and her children. This is not done for "wages". It is done for love. The marriage ceremony contains solemn promises. I am well aware the BBC will find my opinions very strange - frankly, I don't give a fig. There is a concerted effort to bring marriage and family to an end - Human Beings will continue to love each other and look after each other.
Its a small step to compensating the "planet" for a pandemic.
hahhahahah thats awesome
Wish my wife would pay me for doing housework 🤣
Great, I want 25 grand back my ex wife spent on handbags and shoes.
What a complete nonsense, imagine if we had that in the uk, there be all sorts of loopholes, if it was the other way around would the husband get paid, I don’t think so
Checked out this book: "The Fake News Factory: Tales from BBC-land" by David Sedgwick.
What about the Uyghur people? Will the court be just as they were in this decision?
Is this even relate with Ugyhurs people?
Due to The Sino-Japanese Journalist Exchange Agreement... They don’t report anything on CCP bad behavior in Japan. 1 Japanese government shall not take a hostile view toward China. 2 Japan shall not follow the United States and the conspiracy of creating two Chinas which the United States contrives. We definitely disagree with Japan's subservience. 3 The development of and the normalization of bilateral relations between China and Japan will not be interfered.
Yep... look it up!!! I think it is disgraceful...
Don't get married.