SOSdolphins interviews the former killer-whale trainer John Hargrove
John Hargrove was a killer-whale trainer at SeaWorld Texas and SeaWorld California during 12 years and supervisor of orca trainers at Marineland in France for 2 more years. After the tragic death of a colleague by a killer-whale and after hearing the company blaming her for her own death, John was totally disenchanted with the company.
7 days after he resigned, he participated in the Blackfish documentary and he works now protecting the cetaceans. Now he supports the legislative processes that might put an end to killer-whales captivity in California and New York and he has published the book Beneath the Surface: Killer Whales, SeaWorld, and the Truth Beyond Blackfish.
We interviewed John Hargrove in Brighton during his visit to the Whale Fest on 21st March 2015.
John just won't be silent. Massive respect to this man. He's done so much to lead the fight against this cruelty.
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Good! I’m glad and it’s not his fault! Sea world is another matter. It’s cruel separating families!
Why be silent when it makes him more $$$.... I tend to see more than what is in front of me... He is opportunistic.. Do some research about his full story... He is an interesting one...
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@@JoeyMartz Don't care! What matters is he is trying to help them not only him but several trainers have come forward not most just him. I think you should do some research! It's so easy to do so. If you believe that he is a phony, why is PETA suing them? Why did Puget Sound in Washington make them release all the whales they just caught? Why did Washington sue them and tell them to never come back? Why did OSHA take them to court? Why did this man come forward under oath to make a case against SeaWorld? Everyone has done stupid things in the past, but this doesn't make him and the rest of the trainers liars. Why would they even waste their time doing this?
How much do I respect this guy. This kind of integrity is rare.
Anna Hume He's a very brave man in my opinion, people with power do not take kindly to secrets being told money is all they want. From everything I've watched the men with the power and money don't give a toss about the trainers or the Whales in my opinion.
Contrast his integrity to Donald Trump's who is PRESIDENT of the USA. Boy, oh boy.
He also went on a racist rant and trash-talked black people.
I have zero respect for him! Listen to him he knew getting that job was wrong and cruel!! He wants to be painted as some hero now because he left a job after torturing the animals etc.
@@mysticoversoul Wow....you'll find any reason to bring up Trump, huh? Lmao 😂😂😂
Loved his response to the breeding question. Hope as time goes on, more seaworld employees come forward.
+Kathleen Schneiderman dont worry the ones who actually care for the health and well being of these beautiful animals they quit once they find out in what conditions the animals are taken care of and how they lived when they are not performing or get fired when they started to speak out against captivity and starts working in organizations to protect them. Seaworld only cared for money they dont care either the animals or the trainers that work for them that's disgusting.
only the public can stop this type of entertainment Don't support it by going to these shows . First the pools are to small,not good a good enviorment ,the whales don't breed ,so they are not happy they don"t release them back in the wild after years of entertaining ,Some were crossbread terribal.Shame in SeaWorld.
I agree. Racial sggtereaoin is very important. I dont wanna wake up seeing my daughter is giving birth to some godforsaken half Ngegir.
Too bad there aren't more intelligent, caring and dignified men like him!!! He speaks from the heart and he is so insightful because he worked with these beautiful animals and saw 1st hand how they are treated. Absolute respect!!
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A belated thank you to John Hargrove for sharing his compassion and knowledge.
Andreas Christian-Murray yesss
Fascinating interview. Why anyone still goes to Sea World after the death of trainers and all we now understand about the the absolute cruelty of captivity is beyond my understanding. Kudos to you for continuing to raise awareness!
Because the guy is a liar and when you get fired and offered a big check you’ll say anything... And because easily manipulated people like you will believe this garbage
Ok, let’s ignore his professional opinion…it’s still amoral to keep killer whales in a tiny tank, use starvation as negative feedback, force pregnancy on young females, then separate mothers and babies, and finally work them to death…the mean age of death for captive orca is 30, and 60 for wild orca. They literally die twice as fast! It’s unacceptable ANY way you look at it.
I feel ashamed I ever went, but I didn’t know!
@@biologychic7292 totally agree!
Totally agree, Sea World and all other similar parks should've been shut down years ago. The capture videos, where they steal the baby whales from the pod are horrific 😢
Trainers are victims too. I keep seeing comments on other videos about how terrible the trainers are, but in truth they are young idealistic people who love animals and are presented with the same scientific, conservationist facade we all are. If not for people like Mr. Hargrove, we might all still be buying into the narrative that SeaWorld is presenting. And frankly, while there are a ton of commentators now speaking out, almost nobody in the 80s and 90s was, because we all thought SeaWorld were the good guys.
Agree they are victims too.
Yes thank you, I agree 100%.The people forget how much power SW has, they can put pressure on the media, on almost every company. It's hard to stand up against such a force. The are a billion USD company with their fingers everywhere.
Absolutely I agree.
@@edwardwright7042 Yes normally I would agree, too but after blackfish no more. Their love for these animals does not change a thing, sadly. It's only making the SW propaganda going round and round again.
I never thought they were the good guys anyone with any intelligence could see that it was wrong
I “swam with dolphins” once in the keys. Those animals were miserable. Actually visibly pissed off. They wanted nothing to do with us and required intense coaxing and bribing with fish to come near us. It wasn’t the experience I was hoping for. I felt terrible for them.
How sad!😥
I've always thought it weird that 'wild' dolphins would willingly interact, as their natural predator/prey response would see anything as large as a human as a threat.
Michelle Despres I swam with dolphins in the keys back in the 90’s sooooo sad to see this with the whales,at least the dolphins were in a cordened off part of the sea
Excellent that you share with all us your experience. I hope many people read it and do not pay just for being part of a living fantastic creature painful experiences as it is living in captivity the REST OF HIS LIVES! How we call it: “Animal cruelty!”
I also had an experience of swimming with dolphins when I was very young, i was about 9 or 10 years old and was so excited about it, thinking about it now I really feel bad for those dolphins, I still feel incredibly lucky to have touched such a magnificent animal however.
THANK YOU JOHN HARGROVE FOR SPEAKING OUT.YOU ARE THE VOICE WITH OTHERS FOR THE SEA WORLD ANIMALS THAT CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
Thank you John. People need the truth.
We just need to find somebody to provide it.
What a great honest interview.
it was full of honesty and goodness.
I second that. Ditto.
I’ve been sitting here hating the trainers, which is SO wrong. That’s like blaming a fry cook for canceling the McRib every year. It’s all corporate greed. I guarantee these trainers care and love these animals to the best of their ability with the sources they’re giving. They probably think, ‘if I don’t comply I’m getting fired.”, then sit and wonder who the next person might be And all they want to do is protect them. I’m so happy I watched this.
Yes but at some point, like this man, they have to take accountability and leave. They know what's going on yet there are still people working there and while they may love these animals, EVERYONE is aware of what captivity is doing to these orcas' minds now, employees need to leave.
This gentleman is very sincere, knowledgeable, articulate and intelligent ... everyone who plans on going to Sea World should view this first, then take their kids somewhere else.
This so upsetting...I don’t know how he is so calm talking about all this. How he could stand to witness so much of this is amazing to me! Good that he has spoken up!
Cynthia relax
What he is describing it is called “Animal Cruelty” due to the fact that all this Orcas’ illnesses and premature death are perfectly preventable when the Orcas live FREE in the ocean where they belong.
Totally agree regarding Animal cruelty! It’s very inhuman & deeply disturbing!
Orcas are most inhuman when they flick penguins around like a football before killing them. Orcas are cruel, so it is karma when they suffer after all the suffering the do to other small animals. But most humans fell the love for orcas but dont care about seal and penguins because they are more numerous and small. It is human to love bigger things like big bananas that a man has , or big melons that a woman owns. always bigger is better , that why we love orcas more then seals, its a weirdo sexual thing. If it was not then we would be happy for every orca in sea world thousand of seal will be alive but we dont think like that we are biased
If everyone stopped going and paying to see these "educational parks" this would not STILL be happening. Fair play to him for speaking out, hope more do.
I found this to be absolutely horrifying, on so many levels. How anyone could go to a Sea World, especially after Dawn Brancheau’s horrific death (Tillicum) is beyond me. This made me so sad, but I SO respect this man!❤❤
I've never been comfortable at the shows I've been to. I've attended Orlando SeaWorld and Marineland near Niagra Falls Canada. Both occasions I've been in awe of their magesty but within minutes end up in tears. Blackfish and all these interviews have really put to light the feeling of wrong I've always had for this industry. I hope a world wide change can occur soon
Dolphin assisted therapy? Get a horse. They're used for patients going through chemo. They're sweet and very therapeutic. We don't need dolphins when we have horses.
Dog and cats too give the same 'happy, fuzzy feelings'. Dolphin therapy is nothing but a scam!
@@CleverClover2023 Right! Doggos love the cuddles!
Dogs, cats, and horses have had thousands of years of co-evolution with humans, which likely began with mutually beneficial relationships in a shared habitat. I'd be willing to bet the therapeutic nature of those relationships are far more effective for both sides. As humans, of course we want to connect with the life of the world. We just need to better understand the appropriate ways to do it.
Thank you for waking up & taking a stand for these beautiful orca’s! 🖤🐬 #Tilly #Keiko #Blackfish #EmptyTheTanks #SeaWorldSucks
Damn keiko bringing it back. I remember when the vhs came out and it came with the whale necklace that Randolph gives jesse. On the back was a number for save the whales. I called a hundred times. I think I was 10 or something. At Least keiko got the chance to live his last few years in the wild.
That 2.5 year old died because she needed her mother she was in shock! They age in human type years, imagine a 2 year old child taken from it's mother. These poor animals.
Nice interview, I need to get that book
Thank you for telling your truth.
This is a sad story. I never understood the draw of Sea World. Never even considered it. I am surprised at how many facilities there are. If you want to see Orcas visit the waters of the Pacific Northwest both Washington and Canada. Please respect these animals because that are a threatened species.
This whales deserves freedom. They should enjoy living their lives on the sea. I am not going to the SeaWorld anymore. They shouldn't be force to reproduce and most specially the mother whale and its children or baby whales should not be separated from one another, that is heart breaking.
Waa
Bearinealonzoc On the bright side, SeaWorld officially ended their orca breeding project.
@@orcawithdrip827 unfortunately they are now using their knowledge to help China start their own program
I always wondered how the loud music in the stupid shows affected the whales... like they have scientists and biologists, they should know something. It can't be good since their hearing is far more enhanced than ours.
@Debunking Anti SeaWorld claims but you are!
Me too. They have those big screens with wild wales swimming in the ocean, I always wonder if the wales that weren't bred in captivity can see and recognize the ocean. 😭
Loud noise makes me tense and irritable. They need to play soft soothing tones. Animals seem to enjoy that.
I participated in a dolphin swim while in Mexico last year. While the encounter went without any incident and the particular dolphin was very cooperative, I realized later that the dolphin was only doing what she had to in order to be fed. I’ll never want a forced encounter with dolphins again. I only want to see them in the wild.
Very well put.
I admire John for coming forward and sharing his views.
Glad somebody does
Well done John, shut them down!
@Sarah Arshad VIII-C-A here the problem with john he will one thing today but before that he would say that seaworld was doing a great job. He left pissed off. So what does he do. I'll make a movie an make a lot of money.
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He is truly a brave n caring person .Took some years for him to know then realized what's happening! CLOSE THESE PLACES UP!!!
Jon is the true 🐐. Learning from own mistakes and ultimately caring for the animals.
Thank you so much for speaking out about this. Now I educate my kids about all this 🤦🏻♀️ and tell them why we will not go to seaworld from now on.
Power to ya!
Those SeaWorld orca shows clearly don't know anything about Orcinus orca. They've believed orca dolphins should NOT be treated as the amazing, versitile, cultural, and incredibly intelligent apex predators they actually are. They are one of the most amazing animals on the entire planet!! But kids are instead being manipulated by these demeaning shows into seeing these animals as being unrealistically harmless, cuddly, soft, and easily bribed with food into doing these pointless and VERY undignified circus stunts for rotten fish often scooped out of dumpsters. DUMPSTERS!!🗑️ There's NO educational value here. The owners of these ABUSEment parks, if given a choice in the matter of contributing to rehabilitation and release of orcas, sea lions, and other animals held captive there and going instead with the theme parks of the future, (Animal-free, state-of-the-art CGI shows, IMAX theaters with surround sound effects, with actually educational, factual, and enjoyable exhibits, where we could be in realistic simulations where you're swimming alongside wild orca dolphin pods in the ocean) they'd say they'd rather cut off their arms or legs. No really! The outrage and hypocrisy here is these shows say they're respecting nature by forcing animals to dance to loud, blaring music with equally demeaned trainers dancing along posing as "marine biologists" dressed up in flashy, uncomfortable wetsuits. Where's the education in THIS? It's all LIES. In fact, I've recently read online that the the real reason that parks often only hire people to star in their cliche circus acts is BECAUSE THEY LOOK GOOD IN A WETSUIT! If an employee at SeaWorld is young and attractive, they're given jobs on the shows or out in the public, forced to lie about animal biology to make customers buy into it. You're also forced to never refer to the animals as having emotions or feelings! It's never mattered if they're not actually studying marine biology, or even given background checks or references to qualify for the job. Once you get older at SeaWorld, the owners become ashamed of your aging appearance and how it's scaring the children and so, you're permanently sent back behind the scenes, cleaning up after the animals. If certain animals were to ever escape, like polar bears for example, there's actually a PROTOCOL TO JUST SHOOT THEM DEAD ON SIGHT INSTEAD OF SEDATING THEM!!!!! There is an actual shooting range backstage for certain employees are to take mandatory shotgun target practice with pictures of animals on them, it is SO damning that the employees have even posted on social media on who's the best shooter!
Good for you. The younger generation really needs to know the truth.
It makes me cry my eyes out about these whales free the whales
Orcas (killer whales) are actually related Dolphins.
@John Dough be free John, be free!
I had no idea of the horrific cruelty done to these animals. There is absolutely no excuse for this type of “entertainment” to continue, especially in a country that objects so strongly with animal testing for even lifesaving human medications. We have strict laws governing animal care, and if it is found that animals in private hands are in peril, they are immediately confiscated, and prison time is often meted out for the offender. Even more stringent standards should be applied to commercial enterprises. We need to do something. Don’t sponsor these places, get the word out, and thank you for this video!!!
When I was about 7, I was Keiko. He just stayed in one spot at the top of the water. I remember being a child and feeling uneasy about that. My family said "he's resting" now I know whales don't do that. So awful :(
Children know.
You were Keiko?? what do you mean??
@@EnchantedTooWell saw* I have dyslexia
@@aliciazombie8699 that makes more sense 😂 where did you see him?
When people stop going to seaworld then the Orcas dolphins will be set free.Simple as that.
+Canada Ontario That's not how that works...
+Canada Ontario trust me the visitors have declined since Blackfish came out and karma is biting them in the ass in the money they earned from doing shows with these animals. There are many trainers that love the animals they work with and once they find out in which bad conditions are they immediately resigns or get fired to speak out against captivity.
+Canada Ontario its really not how it works and its Orca Whales
+Canada Ontario They would not be able to live in the wild. They have none of the skills necessary to sustain them.
That's not how that works....
SeaWorld is a disgusting place. :-(
Thank You for telling the truth. I read your book to. It was eye opening.
I LOVE dolphins, they are adorable and silly! I got to see one in Mexico in the OCEAN when speedboating, in its NATURAL home... to me that was so beautiful. Did not expect to see one!
You are truly a real true human being and respectable. Be proud of your self and your intelligence
One of the most shocking things to me as a person age 27 whose parents took them to sea world when I was younger, is the how they acted like the age of Orcas in captivity is something incredible. When I learnt they could live up till 80-100 years old, I realised how manipulated I was as a child for thinking whales living till 15 was some sort of achievement and me actually thinking that was impressive. I'm so grateful I now am truly educated on these animals and ashamed I fell for this farce.
I love his crisp narration
I love this guy…he’s great in Blackfish too.xxx
John Hargrove you are my HERO ! Thank you for cracking open this barbaric institution... needs to stop ! We were placed on this earth to help protect and keep the balance not exploit these poor animals and as you say who are far more majestic in the wild where they belong.
Well said.
There’s education in this, come on! Teaches us humans WHAT NOT TO DO! Shaking my head in shame for this...
Excellent book that opened my eyes: Death at SeaWorld: Shamu and the Dark Side of Killer Whales in Captivity Book by David Kirby
Thank you so much for speaking up! I hope you don't get discourage in this journey of yours. I think it's clear, & you've said yourself, that it is your responsibility. Please don't give up, please keep doing what your doing. I really believe togetherness is so over look for the fact that it ALWAYS works. We accomplish many things as people when together but unfortunetly things like media & government try to rip us apart. So as people & animals I think togetherness is always successful & just please keep doing what your doing, you give me hope. Thank you
Thank you John for your non bias interview. I cried listening to what the Orcas go thru at Sea World. I say everyone join the forces and boycott Sea World.
Non bias. This guy left mad. He will anything. Just remember he made a ton of money doing blackfish.
Lol I think SeaWorld is a torture chamber, but this was hardly a “non bias interview”, nor should it have been. Unbiased means showing no prejudice for or against something…..it’s being completely impartial. John’s clearly against SW, as everyone should be.
@@lll22234 kzhead.info/sun/YM2MibmNiXWjooU/bejne.html Shut up, you are a pos. Judging people without prove and being so dammned uneducated. Go to hell you woke idiots who are searching Rassism and fashism everywhere where it doesn't exist. You don't get that YOU are the greatest fashist's of the world. You are acting exactly like the Brown and Black Shirts, yelling and name calling people instead of debating them. You naive little person. You stepped right into the SW trap and I hope he will sue you. You are destroying the whole world with your BS. AND you are beside the point. Go with your paranoia and search rassist somewhere else. 🙈🙈🙈
I love this man for his courage to put aside whatever guilt or shame he may have had to work through after being involved in this industry to be so honest for orcas and their future well being.
I think the biggest surprise to me when I saw Blackfish was the fact that these kids with ZERO advanced degrees, training, or experience are hired to train Killer Whales!!! As a layman, I assumed these animals were handled only by people with advanced biology and veterinary degrees! Also, the amount of things these people had to explain away to continue working at these awful animal prisons is enormous!!
I appreciate his honesty of ignorance in the early stages of his career and how once learning the truth, he is holding SeaWorld accountable for their lies and irresponsible approach to staff and animal welfare. Keep doing the great work John.
Thank you so much! Can we call them Orcas instead of referring to them as killer whales.
Thanks so much for bringing everything you have to light 💯🙏
I'f they can not be returned into the wild then at least, sea sanctuary!!
They say they can't release them because they wouldn't know how to hunt to feed themselves but if they can train these whales to do tricks why can't they train them to hunt? I've watched a lot of TV programs regarding animals that they've had to bring in that were injured and they had to reteach them how to get food for their selves so why can't they do this for the whales as well?
@@cvtmr8079 I agree. This is Just one of their many lies
@cvtmr8079 it's not that simple as just knowing how to haunt, they do not know how to communicate in the wild with other orcas, or how to take really deep dives since they've always been in a shallow pool, most have their teeth really messed up due to chewing concrete out of stress which is another problem, they might also carry pathogens and diseases that wild dolphins or orcas do not have so you don't want to risk the wild population with any potential human disease or virus. It's too risky and careless to just free them for multiple reasons. However they should be another way, like a sanctuary. But most importantly, these reproduction programms must be ended, yet they don't seem to be ending any time soon with many species, it's horrible.
Thank you for your courage to expose this horror. I hope someday soon, these places,(zoos as well);will be shut down. We don't learn anything important enough to keep these beauties in captivity. It's all about the money. Don't go to these places, at least they won't get our money. I wanted to be a marine biologist 40 years ago so I could be with and study Orcas. I thought getting a job at Marineland of the Pacific, (used to be in San Francisco area back then); would've been the greatest job. I don't know what I would've done if I had seen the horrible treatment of these awesome creatures up close. I would've been enraged, but like those that have stayed in the industry; at least if I stayed, I felt I could help them in some way. This should have been changed after the first person was killed. Shame, shame Seaworld and other parks. They'll never see my $ again. RIP Dawn and Tillicum :(
Excellent interview. Super informative.
I went into this video going "more SeaWorld happy bullshit" but he actually says what happened. I'm glad that he has the confidence to come out against SeaWorld!
They've done so many smear campaigns on this guy, it's insane.
Did you read his book, Beneath the Surface? It's outstanding. He goes into detail about SW.
John's book "Beneath the Surface" was so interesting and informative, I seriously read it 3 times.
The book is so much better than this I interview. Thank you for telling your story. My heart aches for those whales.
Down with Sea World. This is awful...awful.
He speaks truth. 100%
Amazing that you are speaking up for your people and for your animals. So much respect for you! You are a handsome, intelligent and passionate man. Please stay as wonderful as you already are for the rest of time! I will keep you in my thoughts whenever I may think of these wonderful creatures. Love and Light from SOUTH AFRICA!! XXX
He's a snake, he's been caught out lying several times
I went to Seaworld in the '80s, and absolutely HATED it, would never go back. I live on the ocean, no large mammal deserves to live like that. Left a terrible lasting impression.
please stop going to these places and let these wonderful creatures live as they should
I think people are scared to not go! People don't go then there is no money for care 😔 it's a loop hole we are in now! We don't agree with captivity but by not funding it they will suffer more so! An end to breeding within captivity will end it and I thought they had already done that
They need that sea pen
Not all marine biologists just those that earned thousands of pounds from these types of glorified fish tanks. Sad
It’s sad to see the harm caused to these beautiful animals 😔
The baby who died after being taken from its mom sounded like a suicide to me. Holding her breath when taken out of the water? That baby didn't want to live.
Absolutely tragic to know that some of these intelligent, emotional, majestic creatures are trapped in cement prisons. I encourage everyone to watch Blackfish...that documentary is really eye-opening. John's book, Beneath the Surface, is informative, too. And everyone: Boycott SeaWorld.
Thank you for having the balls to talk about this! 🙏❤️ Such a sad, sad, sad situation... :((( I hope someone shut them down one day..!
Thank you for sharing this and fighting the truth for the unheard - the ORCAS
Check out John Hargrove’s book Beneath the Surface. It’s not exactly a feel good story, but a fantastic book.
God bless this men!
People making the argument that it's ok to imprison these animals simply just want to do what pleases them. They dismiss huge amounts of evidence that existing as a captive in a tank is damaging to whales and dangerous to humans, because they enjoy going to SeaWorld and seeing the shows or they dream of being a trainer, it's pure selfishness and an attitude of we humans can do what we want to any other species. As far as dolphin, they can be dangerous and they become irritable at being forced to do the same tricks all day long and pull people around the tank.... I know because I was injured by a dolphin who was tired of doing tricks on command and smashed me on the leg with his tail as he broke away from trainer control and swam off. Within 30 seconds my legs stiffen to the point where I couldn't walk out of the pool, and had to be assisted out. My entire leg turned black and I had difficulty walking for the rest of my vacation..... I was pretty uneducated about these parks at that point, and I'm just grateful it wasn't my 4 year old son who got hurt although he was pretty traumatized when I got hurt.
thank you for this testimony and honesty. what you have learned by suffering through your career will not be in vain
thank u for speaking the truth about this, keep it up and ull make a difference,
As each Sea World trainer leaves we are finding out more and more of the truth as to how the animals are really treated and kept medicated and also how the trainers are brain washed into thinking that all was right. Many of the former trainers have come forward now and told the whole truth. I admire John for writing his book and for telling the truth and for his deep love for the animals kept in captivity. Many of the former trainers that have come forth said that they stayed longer than they would have because they loved the whales and other animals. They have said that they thought their being there could make a difference I believe that it did.
Anyone that is thinking about going to seaworld and everyone who has definite plans to go, need to watch this beforehand
The same thing was done to human beings for hundreds of years with no regard or even a second thought. Greed and the love of money is the root of all evil.
Thank you for protecting Orcas. Those wonderful Animals swim hundreds kilometers per day surrounded by their family members. As all others species they can't bear captivity, they can't bear those stupid shows that are tortures. They have an echolocation system with their Sonar that help to locate their family or prey in the wild but in captivity it reverberates the sound to the infinite and that turn them Crazy! Upright postures are non-natural for them stop this abuse immediatly!
Love the orcas and they need our help Now since most are starving due to humans and have so many chemicals in their poor bodies 💔😪🙏
The whole thing needs to be shut down.
Thank you for your bravery and honestly. ❤️
Great interview! 👍👏👏👏👏
So ridiculous to hear people still defending SeaWorld. One of my facebook friends vehemently defends SeaWorld. Why? Because he used to work there and has emotional ties to the company that make it impossible for him to see the truth. To him, those were the best days of his life. He doesn't want to see the truth, so Blackfish becomes "liberal bullshit" and this trainers testimony becomes "disgruntled employee bullshit". Sad and pathetic that people cant just admit that enslaving an animal in a bathtub is wrong. Deep down they know its wrong but they just don't give a shit. Entertainment comes first, always.
+velveetaslingshot I totally agree with you. I worked at SW san diego when I was in high school and have went there thousands of times over the years even with my children. I will never forget one night after a shift, it was late, I could hear the whales screeching like saying hello get me out of here. it used to bother me soo much. Then I saw BF and man did it make a huge impression on me. I will never defend or go to SW again. My two oldest children (17 and 8) feel the same way, along with my husband.
+Mrs K I don't understand how people can state that any sound an animal makes is emotional. We cannot understand what the noises make. We cannot talk to animals or understand them. So to say that you heard them screeching in pain/ distress cannot be backed up at all. If you want to be heard and for others to take your argument seriously you need to stick to facts. I'm not saying that I don't feel the same way. That animal sounds suggest emotions. However a friend of mine who is doing her phD in marine biology brought this to my attention. To stop me from making this mistake. So please if you want to talk to others to see the truth do not use this in your argument against captivity.
HERE is a DAM FACT BITCH::: Animals DO NOT BELONG IN CAPTIVITY!!!
+Stephanie Day wow so first she responds back with a very inappropriate post about me being a b*** and then removes her own comment. Talk about childish. And people wonder why we have a hard time educating and changing procaps minds. I never once said orcas belong in captivity, I am simply stating that if you are going to argue against captivity you need to use science.
It's not that he doesn't want to see the "truth". You are the one who gets served and accepts whatever "truth" he likes.
12:45 I heard about the sanctuary option for the whales where they would at least have the feeling of living a wild life but still being cared for by humans if necessary. But if all the whales are put in a sanctuary and they form their own pod couldn't they eventually be released as their own pod? Maybe I am not misguided as I am not an expert. But it seems to me that the hybrids could eventually be their own pod in a natural setting.
Everyone heading to SeaWorld should watch that first.
Love to John Hargrove!
so nieve. but respect to him for being honest.
I wish SeaWorld would do their island idea! What am I talking about? There were talks about instead of having orcas and dolphins in small pools they fence off a couple big bays or around a island(like in the movie deep blue how they keep the sharks in a massive ocean enclosure) so they are in the real ocean doing what they want. No more tricks and bs and they can do underwater viewing and stuff it'd be more like a safari rather than a bs show
WOW I recently visited Sea World in Orlando after watching videos like this I wish I never visited that place I’m disgusted
I got in contact with fellow whale enthusiasts and we were talking about why captive Orca have bending dorsal fins. In one article it was argued that it was because of the animals coming from a particular pod where it was genetic, showing a picture of a wild animal with a bent fin. But when actually looking it up we found out that a very little percentage of the wild orca population actually has bent fins. I then came across a documentary shot in the seventies about Bottle nose dolphins where one scientist attached a transmitter by drilling it through one of the dolphin's dorsal fin assuming it to be hardened skin. And finding out that that was not the case, the dorsal fins of all dolphin species is made from flesh and blood. So then I argued with my fellow dolphin enthusiasts that if the dorsal fin of an Orca is no different from the ones that bottle nose Dolphins have, it is basically the lack of movement and the lack of exercise which makes captive Orca go obese but the fat accumulates in their fins and flukes resulting in them bending over. I noticed that with Kanduke, the Orca bull who was Taima's father, that in addition to his dorsal fin bending over, the tips of his flukes were curled inward, as was the case with Keiko and Tilikum. Can you guys confirm the theory we have here that a bending dorsal fin is the Orca equivalent of a pot belly?
Dorsal fins don't have bones They have cartilage similar to your nose. In the wild they don't spend as much time in at the surface so the water helps to keep their fins straight.
I really feel he could raised the roof about the plight of the whales
A little late sir!!
Fuck sea world take these poor animals out of there homes drug them and force them. To performe and then kill them at a very young age I hate sea world
How do we the public help these poor animals?
Lori Zimmerman take them to court for animal cruelty get a go fund me page going and fight them in court I'm sure people would gladly donate I know I would.
Start by discouraging other people from patronizing captive cetacean shows. Help educate others about the truth underlying the abuse of captive cetaceans and convince those people that cetaceans have a right to stay at home in the wild.
Don’t buy a ticket. It’s as simple as that
Don't buy a ticket. Tell people when you can about your beliefs. Write to your congressional and senatorial representatives and ask for legislation to he passed making it a federal crime to capture, breed or contain any dolphin or whale in any space other than a natural body of water. Trump made it a federal crime to abuse animals, so anyone who has witnessed abuse should report the abuse and follow up.
Please stop going to the shows, when you go to the shows you're telling them it's okay for them to keep these beautiful whales in captivity and mistreat them Just For Your Entertainment and it's not fair to the whales.
Great interview...very informative 🐳🐋🐬
I would love any kind of updates
There are some videos on KZhead that are showing killer whales with the curved dorsal fins. I remember hearing that this would be a sign there’s something wrong with the whale. I’m thankful for this man speaking out FOR these beautiful whales who can’t speak for themselves and are prisoners of their captivity. Such cruelty from the people that claim they own them.
I've lost track of how many times I have watch Blackfish. I don't think orcas should be kept in captivity. I've never really been able to find an answer to a question about why when an orca drags and holds someone underwater, there isn't any means it seems to prevent/stop it. Like, there HAS to be means to stop it, but it's like they just wait till it is over and then move on.
How do you stop an 8 to 10 thousand pound animal from attacking?
very interesting, have seen every doc on seaworld but still didnt know a lot of these things. its a shame that he didnt expand on why these dolhpin-therapies actually are an abomination
Absolutely horrifying 😢