Which one is better? Pros and Cons of Pole Barns & Metal/Steel Buildings
How to build a pole barn and metal/steel building on 20 acre project farm. Episode 93
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This is a great video and a true public service to those of us considering these two types of structures. Many thanks!
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My pole barn in SE PA is post and beam and still looks great after 20 years. It was built buy a local reputable pole barn company in 4 days. 30x48. The one thing I liked with my pole barn is the 4x6 posts were set 8’ apart. I was able to fit 2 sheets of 2” foam board vertically between the posts and screw the drywall over top to the horizontal purlins . My walls were 8’ high so it was easy and gave me about R 17 or so walls.
This one is about to get fully closed in!
My friend just done the Carolina carport style building on the dirt. Poured the concrete later over top of the bottom legs. Don't know how long it will last like that but the wind wont take it. My concern is the screws rusting out.
I'm sure a lot of the stuff you said could be argued but one thing you said that can't be argued is everything these days is EXPENSIVE!
Truth. And it's not getting cheaper.
Thanks for the great comparison. I’m in sw Fl. My Carolina carport steel building survived hurricane Ian 155 mph winds.
That's good to know! Thanks for the comment. Here is the building of the Mega-shed! kzhead.info/sun/krOal9NtoKWkh2g/bejne.html
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thanks for watching.
Good job explaining the differences Brad. They each have their place. Most of the buildings on my farm are wood construction and much of the lumber has come from this farm.
Hey Gary....that's nice to have the buildings built from your farm lumber. If we had unlimited funds and knew exactly how we wanted the pole barn to be laid out, it would likely be a metal building as well to get away from any maintenance with wood decay.
Best impartial explanation
thanks for watching....here our pole barn builds: kzhead.info/channel/PLG5yS75HLzo2MCmO8M-IQXfvkv-ivvpAU.html
It was very interesting listening to the differences and comparing it with the buildings that can be bought over here in the UK. The nearest we have to a pole barn is a steel barn that uses steel poles bolted to concrete footings. The design of metal buildings we have is different too but the outcome largely the same
We don't have a frost line in Florida so that changes how building are built as well. We are primarily concerned with wind (hurricanes), while in another region it might be ground upheaval from frost, or pitch for snow loading. Thanks for watching. Brad&Deb
Great explanation! Both of your buildings serve a solid purpose on your place and look great!
They are just never big enough, right?!
@@PineyGroveHomestead That is the truth!
That's very good information to know. I'm glad you made this video. I think it's very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. Each building serves a different purpose for us....but neither of them are big enough!!
Excellent comparison, Brad - I may be wrong, but do believe there are sleeves to place the wooden 6x6 or 8/8s in when burying them that prevents rot - Still waiting to see all the animals that just magically appear on your homestead in the years ahead 🙂 Thanks again for sharing - Most informative and enjoyable....
They make sleeves for posts. They also have concrete pillars with brackets that you attach the post above ground. They also make posts out of three 2x6s nailed together so they don't twist. But we have none of that fancy stuff!! Builders in this area of Florida don't build that way...they look at you funny when you mention that stuff. Deer are animals!! B&D
@@PineyGroveHomestead Oh, for sure, deer are gorgeous animals - We have many in our area along with bear, wolves, moose, cougar and on and on down the food chain.... I was more referring to the animals Deb will be bringing onto the homestead... Should be exciting....
This video is fantastic THANK YOU we were torn and decided to move forward with a Wood construction pole barn
Glad it helped. We did another small metal building and are about to finish out that pole barn with a metal skeleton. Playlist here: kzhead.info/channel/PLG5yS75HLzo2MCmO8M-IQXfvkv-ivvpAU.html
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💥 What a fantastic video! So much information and thing to think about. I need a metal building on our land and have been thinking about what would be best. Thanks for this! 👍 *Keep on tractoring!*
Thanks for the kind words, Jon. Here's the building of the metal building....the acting is kinda shaky since it's one of our first videos. 🤣 kzhead.info/sun/krOal9NtoKWkh2g/bejne.html
Nice video! Thank you for the valuable information
Thanks for watching.
Outstanding information, however I am more confused than I started! Great points on both and gives a lot to think about. Another great thing about your video is you went to each area as you discussed it, much appreciated!
I would give the metal/steel building the edge in many areas. Thanks for watching!
Good info, thanks. We trying to decide which way to go as well.
@@MikeOrazzi I went with a stick-built garage with bonus room above should be done in 60 days.
Nice what size did you settle on? I'm trying to figure out what I want to get under cover. I know my truck with dump trailer is 51 feet long. @@uploadtime1780
On our new 70x192 we went with the engineered steel 10,000 psi perms columns so no wood was below grade. But out 60x120 Morton built in 1980 with wood post below grade have no signs or rot. Not needing snow load rating makes things a bit simpler too !
I'd prefer no wood in the ground, but this building will outlive me...unless a tornado blows it over. No snow load needed here in North Florida! Thanks for watching. Brad&Deb
You have a beautiful property very nice setup
Thank you. Lots more progress in videos posted after this one!
Wow valuable information thank you for sharing that and I think summarizing between the two barns the information you gave helps narrow down whether you're going to have animals or not and thank you very much for sharing valuable information
Thank you for watching. Glad you found it helpful. We'll document the pole barn as it continues to transform.
Very informative
We've learned a lot as we've developed this property! Thanks for watching. Brad&Deb
Great Job 👌
Thank you. We poured a ramp into the pole barn recently....so much easier to get in and out! kzhead.info/sun/Z8updbV7rWWqlHk/bejne.html
On the steel building you can use a stem wall to put the building on and you could use plastic conduit for the wiring,
sounds expensive
Thank you for the post! We have 20 acres as well. We are not planning on having any critters but have been torn between a pole style barn vs. a metal building. I like the flexibility of the pole barn to add as budget allows, but I see the benefits of the metal building as well. I potentially would like to add a small living dwelling. I guess you could do that in either building. For now, it would be for the equipment and an RV.
If you can make it happen, I'd go metal building with concrete floor.
Those bees Block your tails on trusses N run some foam tape with vent rife behind it good to go
Brad why did you go with Carolina? I’m also in NW Florida but may need pole barn etc near Florala AL.
They are all built the same so 4 different companies gave me 4 different prices. I went with the cheaper. Here's our shed build: kzhead.info/sun/krOal9NtoKWkh2g/bejne.html
Good video. One question that might be dumb, but why do I have to use hard conduit or kc cable to run my wire? Just to avoid charging the entire building with a current?
I'm not an electrician, but I'm guessing there is no secure way to run Romex on metal framing? But that's just a guess. The pole barn is now wired with Romex.
Wow, I thought I was going to get a metal one. Now I’m not sure. Thank you for the pros and cons. I have to rethink this. For example I didn’t know the metal one needs concrete done first.
They will put a metal building on a level gravel pad, but I'm not sure how you would pour concrete for it afterwards. I guess it could be done? Give Chad a call and ask him: Chad Burke (912) 294-2011
@PineyGroveHomestead you can concrete after just put the concrete anchor through the steel beam alot of people that pour the metal buildings after there built also typically pour them to the top of that steel rail on the bottom which will permanently connect the building to the pad
@@BlakeMerckleTrucking Makes sense but that could trap water and rust out the bottom metal. thanks for watching.
Brad if you dont mind, can you share what you do professionally? The same with Deb too? I have been impressed with you both and your level of communication and articulation of your words..... I am just curious. You said a word in this video I literally had to look up to see the meaning of....
We did some "who are we " videos here: kzhead.info/channel/PLG5yS75HLzo0K9WHfi5d4_yWVy_Bp3w-L.html
@@PineyGroveHomestead cool I will definitely check them out.,. More likes and comments to come!
We just had a 30x48x12 steel truss pole barn installed a few weeks ago. 8x8s are 4ft in the ground with around 400 pounds on concrete in each hole. The building seems almost little shaky, is that normal? We are in florida by the way
Yes. We've had the pole barn mostly enclosed since then and talking to the builders they said one man can get on top and make it sway. I added some cable tie downs to our concrete. You can see the builds in this playlist: kzhead.info/channel/PLG5yS75HLzo2MCmO8M-IQXfvkv-ivvpAU.html
One thing you mention is the need to fasten your buildout to the metal building. I'm not sure why that is. I've seen wood framed class rooms and lab rooms built into metal buildings that were fastened to the slab without being attached to the structure. Is there a county code you have to observe? I agree that the BX looks sloppy, but there are ways to clean that up by using unistrut above the panel, not just to mount the panel. Conduit is the better way, but it is time consuming for the home owner. Good information, and thanks for putting this up. I learned quite a bit.
You could wood frame inside the metal framing, but then you would lose 3.5" of space if I understand what you are suggesting. The pole barn has come a long way since this video. Here is the series: kzhead.info/channel/PLG5yS75HLzo2MCmO8M-IQXfvkv-ivvpAU.html Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomesteadI can understand maximizing the space. I wasn't sure if you were following a county / state code requirement to attach to the building. I'll check out the vid link. Thanks for the reply.
You can build these also on top of blacktop and I have seen people pour a concrete floor after the building is installed. plus if you want with full A-frame roof and not an A-frame + leanto you wouldn't have that post there
There are many options with steel buildings.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Yes there is
Cost of both?
Good afternoon if you were going to build a house inside of those buildings wich one would you choose to build a living quarters house.
Barndos are based on the pole barn design. I don't think I would want to live in a steel building....can't really say why, just seems to different from normal stick frame building.
@@PineyGroveHomestead ok sounds good
Im concerned with steel on concrete. Maybe some sort of rubber in between?
You could add that yourself when they install, but I would think that would trap water?
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If you're worried about Carpenter Bees or treated wood rotting! Why not steel corrosion on concrete? My gosh, my folks built a covered deck in the early 70's. The main structural portion hasn't failed yet. I've worked in industrial construction for years. Replaced numerous steel footings attached to concrete, but these buildings were built for extremes. Not in a residential or farming setting! Regardless of which way one goes either structure should last way beyond their lifetime. If built properly! IDK IMO a lot of prospective buyers don't pay attention to all the details. Case in point, I bet you wished you would have went with higher sidewalls. Especially, in the area that's being framed out. Also with those pearlings on the wooden pole building. My Amish built building doesn't have any of that junk. Stick built with true 2" x 6" and 6" x 6" construction. Also it has a traditional concrete and block 3'-0" foundation. Along with being a two story building! And finally, I'm kicking around the idea of building a all steel building on another property. See a lot of gaps to the outside on that Carolina Carport building. Any plans on sealing it up with spray insulation? Didn't see that in the pole barn section with the concrete floor...........
2 foot on center Double up trusses🤔
Is that for snow load? We are in Florida.
Folks, please do more research and learning/reading about metal buildings. With all due respect, there's a lot of wrong headed info here and quite frankly dangerously amateur. First and foremost, there's absolutely no R10 radiant barrier (which should be laid out during the construction), which not only keeps the heat out, but stops the condensation. Again, no disrespect here, but this is really faulty info/construction acumen. Have you ever worked construction or done anything like this before?