Western Digital Hard Disks - Which to buy? WD Blue, Black, Purple, Red, Gold and Ultrastar.
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In depth specs and price comparison for Western Digital drives, including WD Blue vs WD Black, WD Purple, WD Red, WD Gold and the Ultrastar. What is the difference, and should you just buy the one that is targeted at your use case?
I compare price per Terabyte across all capacities in the ranges and see what you get for you money in both the US and the UK.
Coverage on CMR vs SMR and Exos vs Ironwolf Disk comparison: • Exos vs IronWolf Pro -...
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Please note that Ultrastars can be SMR too. Namely, 20tb DC HC650 (seen at 12:13 in this video) is, unlike the 18tb DC HC550, SMR according to the manufacturer's website: "The Ultrastar DC HC650 20TB HDD with host-managed SMR enables the highest capacity HDDs for data centers. Media tracks are overlapped (or ‘shingled’) with adjacent tracks" 0F38755 \ DC HC560 is the 20tb drive that has CMR. Honestly, somebody should pass a law that they should write SMR\CMR in big red letters on the drive label.
The DC600 range is host managed SMR though, so this isn’t something you could accidentally buy. This requires that the host system can manage the drive. This is difference to DM-SMR (device managed) that we have seen on the Red and Blue drives.
This is better content than the channels with millions of subscribers, you saved me a lot of research time, and confirmed my findings - Well done, Sir! - I was trying to find the most reliable drive, as I am notorious for not backing things up as I should, and I also wanted good bang for the buck, this video answers both of those and reaches the conclusion that my minimal research came up with, causing me to feel much better about my preliminary selections. You also kept me from wasting money on WD Gold and WD Black. Bravo! - Your channel will eventually go viral if you keep this level of good work up, just look at what happened to channels like Gamers Nexus or Bald & Bankrupt - They just caught fire eventually and blew up to several million subscribers overnight!
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Speaking about Purple drives, there s one dditional thing - its main difference 1) they came from factory with head unloading disabled, they dont go to sleep on its own 2) they support Streaming feature set. Its special set of commands allowing drive to drop pending writes or ignore write errors IF this mode was requested by host. This allow drive to increase write speed sacrificing some of write reliability because one damaged frame doesnt make difference. There is not much of info on how its is implemented really but some people raised concerns on should be Purple used in not video-capturing systems. WD however claims its fine.
I've got a couple 1 TB WD Caviar Black drives which have lasted well over 10 years at this point.
I have several wd blue ones for the first few years they worked for me 24/7,they currently have over 7 working years 10+ years in total and still working wd is a good brand at least for me
i have a wd blue hard drive and wd green ssd, and they've both lasted close to 10 years now
Great video. I especially liked the price comparison of drives which is really useful, thanks for that
Thank you. 😃
This is exactly the analysis I was hoping to get! Thanks for the tre,endous job
Thank you, appreciated 👍
Outstanding research again. So informative in such an small amount of time
Appreciate it!
Thanks for the advice! Your videos are great for learning and IT advice.
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I love your videos! You're the only person that makes these kind of videos. You're a legend! Next time I upgrade my storage (in about a year) I'll be buying 5x20 of the ultrastar drives! You're a legend!
Thank you, appreciated. I like to try and make different content, rather than follow other channels. Really appreciate the positive feedback.😊
Awesome video thank you!
Thank you for watching it hot off the press. 😁
This is timely as I need to upgrade my drive capacity in my TrueNAS servers. EXCELLENT quality video!
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Thank you for making this.
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Great video. I’m subscribing now.
Thank you, this breakdown was very informative and put me on track to find a great deal, new WD Ultrastar 10 TB for 180 USD.
Love those disks. Good pick.
Thanks. Used to use black but have switched to ultrastar with lower price.
I have always been a IBM > HGST > WD Ultrastar aficionado. In fact just bought a 22TB Ultrastar from Scan UK not two weeks ago. Good to hear that your conclusions confirm my own findings regarding reliability and value.
They have a great pedigree and a great reputation. And the data suggests that through the acquisitions, that remains which is great to see.
You're completely right about WD being vague about the specs, however you can apply this idea to just about any electronic device where the manufacturer are claiming it's 'better than the rest'. That's why if after digging I get no answers, then I go elsewhere. It also helps to read the reviews if they are available.
I have 5 WD Gold each 10TB in a NAS Raid 5 since the last 4 years and never got a problem with them they are running 24/24 since then. I like these 👍
Having 20 hard drives of various brand and models I can say that theres no good reason for not just buying Seagate Exos or WD Ultrastar which is mostly the cheapest pr. capasity. Paying extra for Ironwolf or RED is a complete waste of money.
This is my assessment also, because for some time the enterprise disks have been cheaper per TB. If that changed and they cost less, I could change my mind but I would stick to the Pro versions which are very similar disks. The Ironwolf Pro's do come with data rescue services, but I wouldn't want to rely on that anyway.
I have always liked the WD red 5400 rpm drives in my nas. Lower heat output and quieter operation. (red plus now). And putting enough of them in a raid 6 has always given me enough write speed throughput. I have had used HGST drives the last couple years and they are great, but the extra heat and noise has made me want to go back to lower spindle speeds again next round.
Thank you
My 16TB EXOS has been running 24/7 nonstop for more than 3 years without any problems but they are kind of loud. My 12TB WD Golds has been the same too and much quieter but it's more expensive. One of my HGST 4TBs got corrupted a few years ago. The other 4TBs and 8TBs are still doing fine but they are not being used as much now. I've tried 16TB refurb Seagate EXOS from Amazon and they are running great. I might take my chance and go for the same for my new 8-bay NAS in raid 6. It gets expensive real quick when you fully populate a NAS. 😭
I was reluctant at buying second hand drives but it can be quite interesting if the price is low enough. You have to have redundancy and backup tho. Some sellers even have cheap 3 years warranty.
I have used many hard drives over the last 30 years and I can certainly recommend Western Digital and Toshiba over Seagate any day. Just about every Seagate hard drive that I have used has gone bad after a period of time.
I already have an Ironwolf 4Tb for storage, but I want to buy another one like a WD purple 4Tb for offline gaming, it's a lot cheaper than the Ironwolf right now. I'm now ignoring 7200rpm but seeking for cache, and the purple one has 64Mb. What do you recommend? Thanks for the video btw.
awesome
Now that I'm in the market for >14TB drives at home, the big question is noise - everything got louder after 14TB. I want low noise, including at spin up (or disabling sleep + spin up). What's the right choice for 20TB, 22TB etc … Purple Pro or Red Pro ?
Please do similar comparison (& survivability) with SSDs.
Backblaze do have some data on SSDs, but it didn't look very extensive as the majority of their storage is on magnetic media. But I will take a look to see, and of course if there are other datasets it would be great to find them. I am planning to do some content on NAND storage also, as well as some comparisons on SSD vs HDD, so look out for that. And thanks for watching!
@@sometechguy I hope the failure percentage is just as low there, but I think it’s even higher.
1:00 - if you take drives from the EXOS range, they can differ hugely between variants! I know that especially the noise can be unbearable for some EXOS variants. Some are okay, but others really unbearably loud.
I have some low capacity blacks, but are replacing them with gold, I don’t need a lot of single high capacity drives as I have an unraid server. this comprises of 2 x gold, 1 x purple, 2 x red, had 1 red fail recently so upgraded to a gold. Both reds were before the smr scandal and purchased at the same time. have always used wd as the have been inherently reliable.. red is @ 5years 9months so starting to look at a replacement.. just incase 😂
I have 2 20TB Red Pros, working great 24/7 for a year now.
If they got to a year, then I would hope they would run on for well over 5. Nice drives.
Thanks. This made it all a lot easier to just buy the right one I need instead of having to dig through ALL that data myself. Basically get the Ultrastar 20-24GB models. I generally just use SSD's now, but I can't deny the usefulness of a generally reliable hard drive for cold storage. Solid state stuff is nice and all, but the reliability is kind of touch and go. I will NOT be buying any more WD SSD's in the future. Have 3, two are failing faster than they have any right to be despite adequate cooling, and the 3rd one was barely used so it's still fine. I use only the Optane line up and Samsung Pro's now. Costs more, but so far, worth it. But even so, they only hold up to 2-4TB in the best case scenarios; and aren't exactly cheap for it either. So a good set of HDD"s can be real nice to have even if they aren't plugged in all the time. Or have them setup in some NAS box in a raid array that only gets accessed mostly to write to, rarely read except when actually needed. I do wish they had longer warranty's on these drives though. Not from expecting or wanting to have to use them, but because it's not exactly incorrect to base the potential reliability of an item based on the warranty period they are willing to toss in for 'free' as part of the products sales pitch. For instance, you gonna buy the PSU with a warranty of 5 years, or 7, or 10, or even 12 years? Personally I go with the 10 or 12 year warrantied ones when the sale is nice. Can basically guarantee the PSU should not be an issue for at least half that life span, kind of... and then have another 5 years or so of 'probably will be just fine' life span before the final months where I should probably get a new one and set that one aside for emergencies.
SSD and HDD bring different value. A time will come when these spinning drives are gone, but until the cost, reliability and long term endurance catch up, they will have their purpose. And yes, the Ultrastars appear to be great drives, at least from the data that is available from disks that have been running for an extended period. The price gap is also closing with Seagate.
Hi, do you have any recommendations between the Ultrastar Air filled drives vs the Helium filled ones? HC330 vs HC510 for example.
For the larger capacities, they are typically going to be helium. This is true for most manufacturers for 14Tb and up, but there are some smaller drives. This is because helium fill reduces turbulence and the related heat generation and this problem gets bigger as the platters get closest together, which happens with more platters. But other than this, and that power use and heat production are greater on air filled drives, I wouldn’t worry too much about much about this. The warranty is the same, but the expected MTBF is improved on the later model, also Ultrastars appear to be good drives but the AFR does seem to be improving on later models. So the larger drives are probably better, and cheaper usually per TB. But if you only need a 10Tb drive, then the HC330 is going to be a good drive with a lower unit cost.
wd purple is great for video. i had a wdc wd30purz-85gu6y0 that failed after about a year of use for games and the ocasional fraps raw avi's. i'd buy another one for video but i already have a mostly empty ssd for that.
You forgot the datacenter yellow 'Re' drives... amazing piece of kit.
The Re drives are now long gone I think, and replaced by the gold drives. But good drives as you say. :-)
One note on WD Blue drives in comparison to Red drives if you plan to use them 24/7 in a NAS... Blue drives tend to park the heads way more often, thus wear them out quicker... Red drives always expect data to be read or written I guess, and don't park the heads at every opportunity... The only difference of Purple drives is the support of Streaming instruction set that is used exclusively by specialized surveillance equipment and nowhere else…
Hi, can you tell me is it safe to use RED PRO or GOLD hard drives as a single NTFS drive in a PC for data storage? Does it have some drawbacks beside noise? I am in search for most reliable 20TB drive and I don't want to use NAS
There should not be any problem with this at all. And if I was buying a large capacity disk for my PC, i would be looking at these disks if the price per TB was right, which it has been pretty consistently. Other than the noise, the firmware won't be as aggressive on parking the heads or power saving because for NAS / Data center use cases, power save isn't as useful as the disk would constantly be asked for access again. You can configure power saving to put the disk into power save, but I wouldn't do this too aggressively as its probably better for the drive to leave it to its thing. Unless you are really trying to optimize power. And on that note, there is likely a slight power increase for those drives, in the region of a watt or two.
I've had WD Red Plus 3TB CMR 5400rpm drives, six of them, in my home file server since 2015. All are running fine after more than tripling their warranty period. If I ever need to replace any of these I'd probably buy Red Pros. I have a pair of WD Black CMR 7200rpm drives that are almost as old and also still going strong. Over many years, I've had about 30 different HHDs from all the current brands, and the total number of HDD failures I've experienced is still one. That was whatever was in my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop. It was pretty much garbage from day one, as was the entire machine.
Iam about to buy a 1tb of gold wd
Since I don't game on any desktop I have made, is it okay to use an HDD in a computer build that I would use for everyday tasks like I've always done?
Having an SSD as the system disk will make it a much more pleasant experience. It will boot a lot faster and load software and other files much faster. So I would recommend an SSD, ideally an NVMe disk for the boot and system disk. But it probably depends exactly what you do with the machine and what capabilities the motherboard has. But you can use a relatively small and cost effective SSD for that, and use a HDD for storing large data.
Hybrid SSD + HDD system is most balanced scenario. NVME is great addition but its performance gains depends on amount data your system reads in one go, still its not bad idea to get one if you have place where to put it. I was hesitating far too long to use SSD as system drives and difference is very visible.
What manufacturer and Harddrive would you recommend for SAN/NAS Storage?. I watched all your Videos but now i am not really sure what to buy 😅
Thanks for watching, and I think the answer does depend on what you need. What size NAS do you have, and approx how much storage space do you think you will need? It will also depend on the prices where you are, but the Ultrastars are a great choice currently, but Toshiba and Seagate may also be a fit depending on prices. Happy to give some ideas with a little more background. 😁
@@sometechguy I am an IT administrator and currently planning a new NAS and SAN environment. While searching for new hard drives, I came across your videos. I found the data and information from Backblaze very interesting. Price is not a concern :-) the most important thing is very good reliability of the hard drives. They should have a low failure rates. In the end we would need arround 300-400 TB in total 😄 So every hard drive should have more than 10TB
I have another video that compares reliability data from each of the manufacturers (you may have seen it) and the WD Ultrastars have been very solid over the last 10 years or so. I can't say for sure they won't release newer drives with issues, but its a great place to start. There is some hard data on some capacities that fit your profile, but you would reasonably extend that to drives of higher capacity in the same product line, especially given the long term reliability trends on the Ultrastars. The larger capacity models probably offer the best storage density as well as price per Tb. Large drives take less bays and provide more flexibility for scale up. kzhead.info/sun/nMeHksmwkIhpgGw/bejne.html But I don't really believe in telling people what to buy, as there are many variables such as price, availability and possibly support in different places. But I do try to provide the info to help make an informed choice. Hopefully this all helps, and thanks for checking out my channel.
@@sometechguy Thanks for the information. We will check out the Ultrastars ☺️
Hi! I have a question. What are the differences between these categories such as enterprise, or surveillance? Not all can be used on a simple PC? Or are these only names?
The drives are largely based on the same platforms and components, but there are physical improvements on the higher models, such as better vibration sensors etc. However, most of the differences are in firmware, which is the code that programs how the drives work. Broadly speaking you can use any drive in a desktop PC, but enterprise drives will usually have better performance but will be a bit noisier and use more power, they will also go to sleep less often though power saving can be configured in the OS. But you can use any of these drives in a PC, and aside from a bit more noise, the higher end drives will have better warranty and will usually perform better, and as I talk about in the video, may not really be more expensive.
@@sometechguy I understand, thank you for your help. 🙂
I avoid SMR like the plague. Terrible hit to performance, even for saving files. WD Ultrastars are fantastic and that's due to them being rebadged HGST enterprise drives. Seagate has higher failure rates, also has SMR issue. And as for Toshiba, they suck, far more failures within 4-7 years. BTW, great videos!
Yo, I requested a custom build from a pc shop i got a 2tb 256m wd blue but they called me a said they ran out of stock and i won't be able to give the requested drive and they'll replace the hdd to a wd purple 2tb 64 with no extra cost, will it affect the pc performance negativily?
I wouldn't think so, but will depend on exactly what drive models they are. But the Blue drive is likely to be an SMR drive, which will have poorer write performance on large writes, where the Purple has its cache usage optomised for writes, and won't be SMR. Overall, the purple drive is likely going to be the better drive, but will depend a little on what you use it for. Hope this reply doesn't come too late for you, and good luck with the PC.
Back when there were Green & Blue WDs, the Greens were just as good
In all these videos and web pages talking about "how long will your hard drive last?" they're always referring to drives that are being used. What I want to know is how long an unused drive will still work.
HDDs on the shelf will last way longer than SSDs as the data doesn’t degrade naturally like SSDs. However bitrot is a thing so data can get damaged over time and starting up the disk now and then and performing some kind of data integrity check is a good idea. It will vary, but to give you an idea, 10years is the kind of number you could think about, but occasionally doing a full data integrity check and fixing errors before they broke unrecoverable would extend that. YMMV
@@sometechguy I meant drives that have never been used. Ever. Others have asked and answered about drives containing data and left in storage, I already know the answer.
I just bough a PC Red Plus 4TB drive for using it in my PC for storing long term unused files. Was it a bad decision? This is for long time storage. I don't have a NAS
No, not a bad choice, so don’t worry about this. Those are good drives. The point to make here is that just because you are buying for a pc, you don’t need to choose blue or black drives, and that enterprise drives may be the best choice also for this or NAS. It’s really down to the price point, and some small considerations about a little more noise from some of the higher drives.
@@sometechguy Thanks! So far this seems to be a quiet drive (only 5400 rpm). I hope it will last few years. I like your channel, I subscribed.
I had a NAS full of 6tb versions of these drives, or at least the version of this drive from some years ago (WD60EFRX). I had good experiences, with the drives lasting over 5 years, and most of them getting to around 8 years of constant use before either failing or being replaced out of caution. Thanks for the subscribe and welcome. 😊
5:48 "5400 RPM Class" = actually 7200 RPM, but somehow dumbed down in firmware. Meaning you get the power consumption, heat, noise of a 7200 RPM drive with the slower transfer speeds of a 5400 RPM drive. Great job, WD. You can find some forum discussions and even news articles about this, e.g. on arstechnica, "Western Digital is trying to redefine the word RPM".
Thanks for this pointer, that’s interesting. This is again disappointing for WD, they never seem to learn how this negatively impacts customers opinion of them, and not sure they are even doing this, just call it what it is with the lower rate. Or use a 5400rpm platform.
Very nice overview, especially of the confusing WD range, thanks! I think that you have overblown the SMR issues a bit and are dinging WD more than they deserve. I remember this issue when it was discovered, and I think that it was murder on ZFS but not really an issue on other file systems. And once WD saw the industry reaction, they got religion on disclosing the recording type, making it easier for customers to make the right choice. I'm running all WD drives at the moment, all CMR, and not having problems. Also, UK prices are awful compared to the USA! Is this VAT? Or just capitalism run amok?
Thank you! For me the SMR instance had three dimensions. Firstly, they did not disclose the change transparently. They were not alone there, and all the major manufacturers put SMR drives into their lineup without good disclosure. For example, the sustained write performance numbers are typically maximums and do not measure the impact once the write buffer fills and SMR has to start managing the rewrite of zones into its throughput. Secondly, WD were the only one to put this into a NAS drive, and the issue wasn't specifically for ZFS, but really for any RAID implementation, which is really what NAS drives are for. Maybe less so during normal operation, but terrible for rebuilds as the long term write performance was significantly worse, causing disks to be ejected from RAID arrays or for rebuilds to take far longer, or to fail. And thirdly, when pressed on the issue they declined to admit it for some time. People contacted WD support and asked, and were not given an answer. This is how it really became the issue it did in my opinion. Mistakes get made, and its how you show up in response that really speaks about company culture. WD did not show up well. So I think they do deserve the backlash, and as a customer, I can only hope lessons were learned. Though subsequent similar failures suggest they didn't learn a lot. But that's just my two cents. 😎 As for UK prices, it varies but US prices have often been better across many market sectors, especially technology. Any UK retailer has to price with sales tax (VAT) included, which I prefer to the US system where I really can't tell what I will pay without doing some math. And UK sales tax is 20%, so this doesn't help, where it can vary by state in the US. However, prices can vary and be better here based on current exchange rates etc. What was interesting to me from looking at the prices is that the Blue drives actually represent a lower price point per Tb than the higher end drives in the US, which didn't hold true in the UK. Given that the drives have lower performance and warranty cover, if you can live with some of the enterprise drive characteristics, such as power and noise, a pro/enterprise grade disk is better value here. Of course things change, so it may not be the case in 3 months, but if you are buying, its worth checking that situation at the time. Thanks for dropping by, making a reasoned comment and sharing your view. I appreciate it.
Who is loyal to WD Gold?!? I know there's great loyalty to HGST UltraStar, but I've never heard the same regarding Gold!
I have 3 WD blue 1 TB SSDs, one each in my desktop, ThinkPad and external case. Hopefully, they'll be OK.
Though SSDs do fail, they have shorter life’s when used intensively, so for normal laptop or external usage, they are going to generally last pretty well. But maybe you are alluding to some recent issues with WD / SanDisk, if so then I hope so also. Not sure off hand of those models were affected, but actually SSDs have many failure modes and internally they are pretty complex. Some people point to HDD failures as being answered by using SSDs, but it isn’t that straight forward. Good luck with those disks, and of course keep backups of i pet any stuff. 😊
@@sometechguy No, I wasn't alluding to anything. I just know there's been lots said for and against them. However, they do provide a significant performance boost.
@@James_Knott yes, SSDs are the go to drive for boot drives and primary storage for performance reasons. But they can wear out faster than spinning disks for a few reasons, and WD recently had some issues with some of their SSDs failing much earlier than expected.
Thank you, nice vid. WD can fu off. I’m still not buying WD stuff after all the shit they did in the last few years and still do. Changing specs, swapping components and generally misleading the customers.
I agree, WD do not help themselves. They have some good products, but they also have some not so good products. This can happen, but when it does it's the way you handle it that counts. And they have a history of making bad choices in the way they deal with this with their customers. And its a shame.
why don't the prices reflect what I'm seeing online? Those Ultrastars are way more expensive than what I see here
Prices do vary over time and by location. Depending on where you are it can be due to competitive pressure, availability and the exchange rates between currencies. I compare prices here in the UK often between the high capacity enterprise drives (18-24Tb) from Tosh, Seagate and WD to catch bargains and prices do seem to vary fairly often. But comparing how prices compare against these in the video could indicate when to buy and when to wait.
My queston is - previous anyone was able to identify SMR drive by its cache size - its usually 256Mb vs 64 in CMR. But now we see drives like WS40EZAX with 256Mb cache and claims to be CMR. Some newer CMR drives even advertise TRIM support. How it is possible? Why CMR drive uses big cache? What TRIM can even do on CMR? Are they blatantly lying?
This is really interesting. Is it possible the larger cache and TRIM support is there in support of their AllFrame technology? Writing streaming data may be more efficient if the data can be buffered in cache in larger chunks, and then written sequentially rather than writing many streams in different locations at the same time. And maybe TRIM is there to help with cleaning up when data is overwritten. This is worth of a deeper dig. And with disks getting larger, large parallel file writes are not going to just be limited to streaming applications, there is quite some effort to wring performance out of spinning disks. I couldn't totally exclude some misdirection on the recording technology, but I would think it would be very risky to misstate this clearly in documentation. They suffered a class action as a result of the SMR drama before, and this would be far more egregious. There is also the subject of storing more drive metadata off the platter and on cache or nvram to help with performance there also.
@@sometechguy Well, SMR use TRIM for its zones optimization (internally its moving data around much like SSD do, rewriting from CMR disk cache to slow SMR zone). TRIM on CMR would imply its SSHD, but isnt they all extinct? Even if not, TRIM issued by OS, so to use NAND part of drive as cache there is heavy need of proper support of that by OS, i didnt seen any mention of that by WD. Speaking of Allframe, yes, large cache can help with writing videostreams, but i had feeling its more about ATA steaming and optimization to parallel writes. I have WD40PURZ and its have 64Mb and no TRIM support, while also advertised as Allframe. Heck, when i was purchasing i got exactly this model because it was 100% CMR while models with larger cache was actually cheaper. I have slight fear WD is still wanting to switch everyone to SMR one day.
@@sometechguyThere is some reddit posts about this, searched for "WD43PURZ TRIM" - people found Purple drive featuring TRIM. WD support given very vague answers about this topic directing on some white paper about how TRIM can benefit HDDs (bit funny enough its paper about SMR drives). So, its very inconclusive. Its possible its just firmware stub doing nothing in respond to TRIM. Or not?
Thank you, you came with some really interesting info here. I will check in on that thread and dig deeper on this. There do appear to be a new generation of Purple with superficially very similar stats, but with different model numbers. So something is going on.
What about WD Green?
WD still does the green range on SSD, but for hard disks….it’s gone.
@@sometechguyoh i didnt know that
red toshibas dont work vertically, only horizontally
There should be no problem with the way the disks are oriented, though I would not change the orientation while they are spinning. And just for clarity, what did you mean by 'red toshibas'? this video was about WDs, though I have others that cover Toshiba and you may have been referring to one of them. And the 'Red' disks are made my Western Digital.
TLDR: If you want a larger drive, just buy an Ultrastar!
I'll tell you right now the wd enterprise gold drives are the best, bar none!! That's from experience! Check the specs!
Ridiculous how much more expensive they are in the UK If you need a few of these it'll probably be cheaper to import them
I will never purchase another Western Digital drive. Back is the 90s when I built PCs for people as a second job, Western Digital drives would crash, sometimes without warning, within a year of placing into service. Last year, I purchased a new MSI GE76 laptop with a 2GB WD Black M.2 SSD. The drive crashed with no warning after 14 months. I was unable to retrieve my data after it failed. No more Western Digital for me.
Are gamers even considering a hard drive, these days? I’ve been using SSD’s for more than a decade and only the smallest games (often much older titles) would load from a traditional hard drive in a non-frustrating amount of time. I do have a few titles in my Steam library stored on a NAS, but practically all games should be kept on an SSD for a good experience.
Yes, for sure. NVMe for boot disk and for games libraries, maybe an SATA SSD and spinning disks are great for mass storage like media.
I have never had an Enterprise drive fail. They are worthy of the price. AVOID SMR drives
There are Toshiba hard drive fans? How? I've only had horrible luck with them, and that's in 10 years of desktop support and 15 years in server storage administration. Why would anyone be a fan of them?
The analysis of the backblaze data, which does only contain MG07 and MG08 Toshiba Enterprise drives, but it's around 56,500 drives as a sample size, shows they have good reliability. And when I have made videos about Seagate and WD, there are usually quite a few comments from Toshiba fans questioning why they don't get more focus. But for sure, the variety of models and the total drive count provides a smaller sample size to analyze than for WD/HGST and Seagate. So it looks like there is quite a fan base, even if their market share of the HDD market is only around 18% or so. And unlike Seagate and WD, there are far fewer comments slating them for being bad. But again, smaller market share so probably expected. 🤷♂️
No WD products.
ALWAYS EVADE SMR IT IS GARBAGE
I agree, I am salty about the SMR history. The technology isn't 'bad', but it has upsides and downsides and I think this wasn't well communicated so expectations were not set properly. But that said, I believed there is continued work on improving SMR, and there are device managed and host managed versions of this, so maybe things will develop in this space. I just hope the 'customer feedback' that happened over the last few years changes some attitudes about the transparency of this technology to users.
You buy none of them, You buy ironwolf or exos.
One of the opinions of all time, go watch the other vids on his channel about average drive failure rate to actually inform yourself instead of taking one drive manufacturer as the messiah. companies are not and will never be your friend, make your decisions based on the facts and data collected.
Poor bstrd