This Spyderco Knife Is REALLY Cool, But Why Does It HAVE To Be THIS STEEL!?
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Watching MC play with the sharpener and I can only think, "the peg goes in the hole! At this rate are you sure those are your kids?"
Harsh,,,lol
Before you use that sharpener, get a brace for the clamp!! If you don't you may get uneven bevels and if you do it's a great sharpener.
A brace?
I believe what he's referring to is a little bit of a design flaw (for lack of a better term) with this particular sharpener. The clamp for the knife has some "flex" and there are a few after market things you can get to "brace" the clamp and prevent any flex.
@@adamcarlson2432 Great, thanks
I just use a cork from a wine bottle. Cut it to the proper length and slide it under the clamp. Just have to remember to slide the cork under the clamp each time you flip the blade.
I used mine with no upgrades for over a year. I never had issues with bevels.
The angle sharpener is an awesome system...the arm goes underneath the magnet, btw😂...also, the clamp pulls out, its held in by magnets too and is easier for me to pull it out & turn knife over than to push the button to switch sides👍 Oh & stick a piece of wood or plastic under the clamp cause it'll sag down a lil when sharpening & a block of wood will keeper stiff & keep perfect bevels!
If you are trying to sharpen a syderco pm2, you can't get right to the base of the edge as the plastic on the sides of the stone is too thick. Works great on knives with a good sharpening coil. I find that I get a better looking edge with my Lansky guided system. Just an FYI:)😊
The magnetic part for the stones go underneath up into the housing. Not on top so it flops all around. I don’t own one but can tell that’s how it’s made. I’ve been wanting to get into sharpening and learning on my value spydercos and this looks like the perfect way to get started! Looks kind of error proof
I like the model that's a step above this one. (This one def seems like the most bang for your buck model tho) Just get the clamp brace for sure. I know how to sharpen with stones plenty well but I am bad about having the blade bevels a lil uneven lol and I get annoyed with a stone after awhile. I highly recommend something like this if you're interested I do not get the whole using stones only elitism. Its definitely good to know how to do but not the end all be all.
I have a Spyderco fixed blade that I use as a kitchen utility knife in 8cr that is an outstanding performer, and has great edge retention. Buuuuuuuuut, I paid $30 for it on sale. I agree that $75 for 8cr is a bit much.
I mean for $30 I'd be pumped! Nice grab
Exactly. It blows my mind when I see companies charging more than 20 bucks for 8Cr without either a unique locking mechanism or a special material for the handle.
I was a sushi chef, we needed insanely sharp blades for speed and precision. Even moderate sharpness won’t do. I sharpened for 20 minutes 3 days a week for 3 years and I still consider myself a complete amateur at sharpening. Many guided systems didn’t work for our variety. Actually most guided systems are trash compared to hand sharpening, or a mix of both
The one thing I don't like about my PM2 is the lack of a sharpening choil or any kinda space for me to get the heel of the edge with my worksharp
The WS precision adjust is actually a great system and this with the extra diamond stones and strop is a fantastic deal.
Heck of a lot better than using that newer variation, budget D2 steel. Good luck putting an edge on it when it goes dull.... assuming the blade doesn't snap in half while you're using it.
I use my workshop backpack model to sharpen hone and strop all my knives. I would love that sharpening system to see how much of a difference I see if anything and then report back!
I’m far from a master sharpener. I got the Worksharp Pro Precision Adjust. It has elevated my sharpening ability to the moon. I love it.
I have the work sharp sharpener and it puts an amazing edge on a knife I’m horrible at sharpening so the fact it can hold the exact same angle throughout the whole process helps get the almost mirror edge after the leather strop
What is your opinion about the ken onion work sharp belt sharpening system?
Got a s35vn and gold foil Otter for $60 and I really like the blade shape and how small it is. Wish it was 14c28n or s45vn instead of s35vn but whatever. For $60 s35vn is good and those gold foil scales are beautiful.
I like the design of the Spyderco but 8cr13mov is a deal breaker, you might as well just try and heat treat some tin foil
8CR is good with good heat treatment. As long as it's under $100 it should be fine for the price
And SpyderCo has perfected the best treatment process!
$35 is my top end for 8Cr
Pluss the upgraded Work sharp sharpener has allot more fetures more stable and you can sharpen traditional pocket knives with it!
Just moved to Utah from Cali so I had to pick up an otf so I got a Krate tactical parallax dual plane edge in d2 I know it's not a microtech but for 170 it's a good deal lol
Stroup Knives makes very good tools imo, and there are some self-defense applications for that sticker, but price/value is for the end user to decide. VZ Grips and Cold Steel have similar non-metallic tools. Options are solid for sure as you cannot take a metallic tool everywhere.
I’m with you. That spyderco fixed blade could’ve been really awesome if it weren’t for the steal. I don’t get why they’re using that. I didn’t think budget knives even used that steal anymore.
Them giving away the sharpener is the first exciting thing I have seen on the premium box in a long time.
I feel the same. I was drawn to the aesthetic or that spyderco but 8cr….meh. there are lots or other budget steels that i would be fine with. oh well
That is a really good entry-level fixed bevel sharpening system. PS.. pinch the back of the clamp
The non metallic knife has one primary purpose ,to get passed metal detectors. For those who feel a need to carry a backup in a weapons restricted building can still have a lethal form of defence. The thing i pretty much a point shank made out of plastic but effective. The price is actually pretty solid, considering your getting a non metallic sheath with it. Most of them run 80-100 dollars for a decent one. Its actually a pretty cool knife to get its not a toy.
That WS Sharpener is fantastic. After I got it, I haven’t touched my old stones again.
Hey complex! I have a question. When it comes to companies like Null knives and others that have their designs made by an OEM such at Reate, would they be classified as Mid-techs or just high-end production knives? Do owners of the companies have anything to do with the final product? How are they classified? Thanks man!
Never thought of that but great question! Super curious as well.
High end production.
@@metal_complex thanks, I was watching your explanation video on Midtechs from several years ago and wondered that. Maybe you should do an updated version either in a video or a TKG!!
Mid tech used to mean (in 2011-2012 when it was introduced, not sure what it means now) it's made by the maker (or a few people that he employs) with the use of smart technology, can be customized and are somewhat limited in availability (tens or a few hundreds at most, not thousands). But the guy (like say Medford, Todd Begg) still has to have had his hands on it at some point and did something on the knife and it's made in his shop (some labor like water jet or heat treatment can be outsourced). Null and other knives that are made by Reate or other OEM (in US, China, Italy or anywhere else) are just high end production, no matter how nice they are. It's still a great knife and some can be made as nice or better than midtech or customs, but it's still a serial production knife.
Metal Complex, Your videos are fantastic! I just had to subscribe!
So MC (and anyone else really) I'd like your opinion on something. Do you think Spyderco should do what WE and Civivi have done by making budget versions some of their higher priced knives? Like maybe budget versions of the PM 2 and para 3? Idk I just think that would be a really great way to get more customers. Obviously steels like 9cr18mov, 14c27n, or even D2 would be preferable but hell I'd take a PM2 in 8cr13mov. At the very least just to try it out before I spend the money on one of the various versions. Also while the price of the non metal knife is total BS I don't hate it and would probably carry it.
The work sharp i have and it's cumbersome to use get rid of it and upgrade with their newest version it's way better and the knife doesn't wobble while using it!
I would love to have that Spyderco fixed blade in 1095 hc i make lots of them and take that cheap plastic tech lock off it and put a quick clip on it for your pocket attachment to your pocket or your sweats!
When the QSP came on, I had to check the playback speed. Ya turned on robot mode! Apparently, you’ve said these words before.😉
Spyderco is one of the only company I don't mind 8cr from. I believe that was almost an English sentence. I don't know what it is, but they seem to outperform most other 8cr (on the Spyderco & Byrd knives I have tried). The Stok bowie is a really cool knife. Do I wish it was in Cruwear or k390? Absolutely. But for $60-80 I don't think it's a "bad deal". But I have not used the Stok that much, so take that for what it's worth.
To post the hated comment of the day… Knife Steel Nerds finally got a hold of some 8cr bar stock and…it’s actually not that bad. Is this one overpriced? Sure it is. If it was $45-50 that would be doable mainly because Spyderco heat treats it properly and they tend to run it fairly hard. Which itself is valuable. It’s probably a decent buy when it goes on sale somewhere.
i understand this would be an unboxing, but your attempt to work the worksharp station, was, didnt you feel a little awkward? what was going thru your mind thinking that this was possibly how the arm attaches to the unit. dude the spyderco knife was looking a little better. i applaud you for releasing all that content, thats one of the reasons your the best. you absolutely made my morning. that was good stuff
I’ve been saving for that specific sharpener!! Hope I get it in the giveaway
Its been two minutes and already hundreds have heard the voice crack! Haha. 32 and it still happens to me too lol ya just roll with it 😂
Would be so much better if they made a few different variants of the stok, like a blacked out
I'm not an 8cr hater but for 75 it's a bit steep. The bow river was more knife in 8cr for 35-45. Not sure why this one costs so much. Neat design though
It killed me watching you trying to figure out that sharper 😅
0:10 Chokeslammed it 😮
He was that excited his voice cracked
You should do a giveaway with that spyderco. That's one of my favorites. Lol. Even with the 8CR steal.
Why not VG10?
Lol the heim joint on the sharpener doesn't sit on top of the magnet and flop over, you put it in through the bottom.
Whoops
That fixed blade would work well as neck knife
I'll take the Sharpening System!!! My Birthday is tomorrow! 🤘🤘😎🥳
9.8 on the slam
stream today? i missed some recently bc they were started real late
Holy crap you turned into a sports anouncer!
I think half of the price for the Spyderco is due to the sheath being made in the US.
Dude! Totally with you on the Stok Bowie! 💯 When I first saw a picture of one I was immediately drawn to it, but then I saw the super deal breaker for any knife regardless of of any other element of design or aesthetics - 8cr13mov!?! Screw you Spyderco! Stop using this steaming pile of hot garbage for blade steel. Just stop it! Maybe that's was acceptable 20 years ago? I don't know, I wasn't a knife guy then. IT IS DEFINITELY NOT ACCEPTABLE NOW!!! Do you hear me Spyderco?! Why, why in the name of all that's holy are you still making knives out of this known turd of a so called blade material? Stop it! I will never ever ever ever pay a single dollar for a knife with a blade made of 8cr13mov. I don't even want it for free. Give the knives you've already made from this excrement masquerading as steel to starving kids in Africa (if they will even take them), and don't ever try to push a knife made of this crap on us again. Screw you Spyderco. There's no excuse for this.
Dang, I wanted to see a paper cut test with that plastic knife.
The Stok could be the same price in 20cv and it would still suck. The handle is terrible, dull out of the box and in my case the sheathe was so poorly molded that it split apart directly out of the box.
yes 8cr13mov is a direct Chinese copy of Japanese Aus8 .
A large coffee? It may be from Colombia but I don’t think it’s a large coffee 😂
As an actual overnight master sharpener I have to let you know that.... 😂😂
The Plastic Knife, Reminds Me of a Fancy, Prison Shank !!!
at least the spyderco wasnt made of zytel
That box may be a good value, but I don’t see anything premium in it
you slammed that card down like the box had offended you.
sell that and get the pro, I love mine
Spyderco and overpriced 8cr13mov; name a better couple. Did you know that the 8cr resilience is $73? It's absolute madness.
Sweatpants - slippers - machete kinda guy myself. 😵💫
Let’s get a cut test and full review on the plastic goober so we can put it to more shame
MC please. I need the stress test on this thing
Spyderco?!?! oh.
That steel is the least of your problems, bro.
The plastic knife must be your new unboxer
Messiest going gear unboxing and I'm here for it.
Very.cool spydie blade. That dagger? Poop emoji poop emoji😅
No Rex Kwan Do pants?
Bro im 43 and voice is still changing and still getting deeper. I think your feet keep growing late in life and your nose i think 🤔 weird huh?
M'eh... My love-handles cringe at the thought of EDC'ing a fixed blade.
10s of millions
Great looking knife, but that's it.
this time all is junk.. next vid pls ❤
That plastic knife would sell for 6000 stamps in jail or 200 honey buns
Literally do you want to give another away? I’m your recipient if you doooo!!
Polished, meh. No amount of polish is going to change the fact that it's 8CR13MOV.
My polite & concise comment didn’t appear when I posted it. Let’s see if this is accepted.
I love how MC acts like a idiot and dose stupid stuff every video just to troll the trolls, brilliant!
Yea,8cr13 shouldn't exist.
I like spyderco but not this one
Would it kill you to put some effort into updating your intro? It’s from June 2020 and I can’t be the only one skipping it every time. 2 minutes of every video is nonsense fluff/filler.
But it's american made super plastic. Lol.
another ugly spyderco
Only a handful aren't.
@roelvinckens5553 i haven't seen one that isnt yet
Slysz Bowie, Shaman, Paysan?
@@rhinosaur. Hadn't seen those but the paysan is ok I would pay that kind of money though
@@rhinosaur. Those are on the shortlist for sure.