Rome's forgotten battle - The ambush of Harzhorn DOCUMENTARY

2021 ж. 9 Жел.
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This video was a collaboration with KZheadr @toldinstone. Head on over to his channel to see part 1 of this video: • How a Horseshoe led Ar...
The Battle of Harzhorn is a fairly modern discovery, which has surprised historians and questions our knowledge on the Roman Empire in the 3rd Century.
My team and I are proud to publish the first ever recreation of the battle on KZhead, supported by the ancient and modern sources listed below. A special thanks from me goes to Felix Bittman, as well as my Patreons for making this video possible!
Ancient Sources:
-Herodian, History of the Roman Empire since the Death of Marcus Aurelius, Book VII.2: www.livius.org/sources/conten...
-Historia Augusta, The Two Maximini, Chapters 11-12: penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...
-CIL XIII, 6104
-AE, 1931, 68: lupa.at/7512
-CIL III, 10307: lupa.at/6049
Modern Sources:
-Berger, V.F; Bittmann, F; Geschwinde, M; Lönne, P; Meyer, M; Moosbauer, G. “Die römisch-germanische Auseinandersetzung am Harzhorn (Ldkr. Northeim, Niedersachsen)”, Germania, 88 (2010): 313-402.
-Geschwinde, M. “Eine römische Prunklanze aus Kalefeld, Ldkr. Northeim, Nachrichten Aus Niedersachsen Urgesichte, 83, (2014): 107-114.
-Geschwinde, M. “La batalla olvidada: La expeditio germanica del emperador Maximino el Tracio y los hallazgos arqueológicos de Harzhorn”, Despeta Ferro, Especiales, XVII, (2018): 44-51.
-Geschwinde, M; Hassmann, H; Lönne, P; Meyer, M; Moosbauer, G. “Roms vergessener Feldzug: Das neu entdectke Schlachtfeld am Harzhorn in Niedersachsen”, 2000 Jahre Varusslacht Konflikt, Stuttgart: Konrad Theiss Verlag, (2009): 228-232.
-Meyer, M. “The Germanic-Roman Battlefields of Kalkriese and Harzhorn”, Conflict Archaeology: Materialities of Collective Violence from Prehistory to Late Antiquituy, (2018): 205-217.
-Meyer, M; Bittmann, F; Geschwinde, M; Hassmann, H; Lönne, P; Moosbauer, G. “The C3rd AD Romano-Germanic battlefield at Harzhorn near Kalefeld, Landkreis Northeim”, Roman Frontier Studies Proceedings of the XXI International Congress of Roman Frontier Studies (Limes Congress) held at Newcastle upon Tyne in August 2009, Limes XXI, (2009): 298-303.
-Moosbauer, G. Die Vergessene Römerslacht: Der sensationelle Fund am Harzhorn. München: C.H. Beck, 2018.
-Pöppelmann, H; Deppmeyer, K; Steinmetz, W.D. (eds.). Roms vergessener Feldzug: Die Slacht am Harzhorn. Veroffentlichungen des Braunschweigischen Landesmuseum, 115: Darmstadt.

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  • Great video! Thanks again for collaborating with me; you were a pleasure to work with!

    @toldinstone@toldinstone2 жыл бұрын
    • It was my pleasure! Cheers to a great series and more to come!

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
    • Got here from the collab. really interesting, nice work!

      @danb1618@danb16182 жыл бұрын
    • @@HistoriaMilitum pp

      @emmanuelostria5488@emmanuelostria54882 жыл бұрын
  • Aurelius Vitalis and the others could never have imagined that their names would still be spoken, and their memorials remembered, nearly two millennia later by people half a world away.

    @jamesbarca7229@jamesbarca72292 жыл бұрын
    • true words

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • Lmao it's interesting how modern historians always assume that ancients spoke in metaphors and always exaggerated when in reality they probably stick to the truth more than even we do today. Great video btw.

    @danesovic7585@danesovic75852 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!! Truth be told, they were right at assuming that. The main written source for this campaing, the Historia Augusta is rather unreliable. But turns out that on this precise instance it was telling the truth.

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
    • History is recorded mostly, not hastily remembered by the aging. You'd be surprised had you done some research on your own.

      @Bye-kd8xo@Bye-kd8xo2 жыл бұрын
    • The toldinstone accompanying video says that the guy who led all these mptherfuckers up and down the hills of Germany was 8 ft tall and could crush rocks in his bare hands and The mesopotamians said their kings lived for hundreds of years Fuckin hell if our ancestors paid attention to details. Herodotus is considered the first historian for good reason

      @louschwick7301@louschwick73012 жыл бұрын
    • @@louschwick7301 to be honnest there is a big chance the aforementioned guy leading those mfers was aflicted by acromegaly (gigantism) judging by multiple of his descriptions that kinda match and his later coinage that shows the distinct jaw and face features that are often associated with it.

      @lukethedank13@lukethedank13 Жыл бұрын
    • Politicians are the main source for a lot of history. Do you think politicians are a reliable source?

      @bioemiliano@bioemiliano Жыл бұрын
  • Lots of Roman history video releases today. A good day it seems.

    @napoleonibonaparte7198@napoleonibonaparte71982 жыл бұрын
    • Indeed ser Bonaparte

      @Ncertshahayyi@Ncertshahayyi2 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah the new Epic History TV Belisarius episode also came out

      @RexGalilae@RexGalilae2 жыл бұрын
    • Yep, belasarius roman siege on epichistorytv, sulla mithradatic war on house of history, and now this. Today is a hat trick for classical battles.

      @dariusghodsi2570@dariusghodsi25702 жыл бұрын
  • Interesting how even the roman scouts couldn’t detect such a sizable force concealed in the wooded hills. Just goes to show how much the Germans knew the land and how it adds up to the fear factor from the point of view of a legionary, seeing as they could quite literally come “out of nowhere”. Great video, as always!

    @remixfrost@remixfrost2 жыл бұрын
    • ehm, are you aware this is only a storytelling device? We know the battle happened, but without written accounts we can only speculate why the Romans entered the ambush-friendly terrain.

      @eljanrimsa5843@eljanrimsa58432 жыл бұрын
    • A small comment . The Roman army used legionaries. Only the French Foreign Legion is composed of legionnaires.

      @alecblunden8615@alecblunden86152 жыл бұрын
    • Well, to be fair, Germania at that time was a land filled with heavy forests, swamps, hills, dirt roads(if any), you name it. In stark contrast to the civilized roman territory at that time west of the Rhine filled with stone roads, so you could say that most of Germania was “ambush-friendly”. Also, the disaster at Teutoburg forest in 9AD, where three whole legions got virtually destroyed, is a consequence of how well the german tribes could use the terrain to their advantage, staying hidden until just the right time to strike, using the fact that the legion’s marching order was thinned because of the terrain and therefore more spread out, being unable to assume any coherent battle formation, but fight the enemy as they were, separating the army into smaller segments ,barely able to support each other, like in this battle here. Not to mention the legions being led into a trap by Arminius, of course.

      @remixfrost@remixfrost2 жыл бұрын
    • @@remixfrost Very good points. Also many of the tribesman had probably served in the Legions as paid mercenaries and so were quite aware of Roman tactics and scouting/marching practices. I am kind of surprised that they did not pull off a total victory here. They were probably able to free many captives and recover some of the loot, so let's call it a tie.

      @cliffordjensen8064@cliffordjensen80642 жыл бұрын
    • Crappy scouts

      @jason200912@jason2009122 жыл бұрын
  • That was a wonderful video. I thought at first you were taking poetic license with the names and details but you soon showed that everything was well-sourced. Just subscribed to your channel.

    @aldiboronti@aldiboronti2 жыл бұрын
    • We play with the margins but we never deviate from acceptable educated guess. The guys were from the east, fell in war and in the period 234-238 and the monuments were near Mainz. It falls into the realm of acceptable guess. Even historians who cover this say so. As for the movements of the battle the same, a legionary pickaxe of the IVth legion was found were the baggage train was, so it is an acceptable guess that the guys were stationed there. Nothing is made up, we only decorated it a bit to make it more humane 😊

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
  • The added names of Roman servicemembers are a very nice and even welcomed touch.

    @Briselance@Briselance2 жыл бұрын
  • I came here after watching Told in Stone's video. You both did great work. Very interesting. Thanks.

    @perceivedvelocity9914@perceivedvelocity99142 жыл бұрын
    • I am glad you enjoyed the videos!

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
  • Great profile on a little known Roman battle. Even with the calamity of the third century, it goes to show how the Romans were still quite capable of giving the Germanic tribes something to fear.

    @Steve_Hickman@Steve_Hickman2 жыл бұрын
    • The Germanic strengths were vastly overstated in the early empire with the possible goal of downplaying the organizational blunder that was Teutoburg, and later were dramatised by German nationalists and romanticists. Why didn't the mighty Germans conquer rome anytime during its 1200 years but decided to wait until the Huns, Parthians and Arabs showed up? The Limes (border with Germania) didn't move from the time of Hadrian to the Great Migration. This is similar to what the British press did in ww2 when they made Rommel into a legendary figure to justify being pushed back into Egypt, one of their only defeats in the War. Rommel was a mediocre general.

      @Bolognabeef@Bolognabeef10 ай бұрын
  • The blocks were great for showing troop movements and the animated fights just blinded me with the scope of this battle. The eulogies of the warriors who lived, who "made sure it was done" are kinda staying with me. Great storytelling elements in these three examples specifically and throughout the video!

    @JustMeJH@JustMeJH2 жыл бұрын
    • "Made sure it was done" sure sounds like a phrase that have legs to one day be used in some popular media and then get commonly recognized again.

      @RhoninFire@RhoninFire2 жыл бұрын
  • This was a very cool video. You elevated the tactical play-by-play of the battle with depictions of the men who fought there, and by backing up your remarkably detailed description with the evidence from the battlefield itself! Thank you very much, subscribed.

    @BrorealeK@BrorealeK2 жыл бұрын
  • In German, the name of the place Vogelberg has to be pronounced like Fogelberg, meaning bird mountain or bird hill. The German word Vogel must be closely related to the English word fowl.

    @larsmunch4536@larsmunch45362 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, now I know!

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
    • And not far from latin Avgellus

      @gabrielesimionato1210@gabrielesimionato12102 жыл бұрын
    • Vogel... is the lakers head coach last name... an rn the lakers suck. They should fire him. No wonder my beloved lakers sucks... bird in a hill #lakers

      @theconservativecoconut6887@theconservativecoconut68872 жыл бұрын
    • 'Vogel' is also the Dutch word for 'bird'

      @hansdorst3005@hansdorst30052 жыл бұрын
  • I think, you're doing the finddensity a great wrong. The battle of the Harzhorn is the best preserved battle of all antiquity! More amazingly so as it has only been excavated since 2009. The finds were so well preserved, that the roman track, the positioning of the armies and (as you mentioned) even the field of fire of the roman balistae could be recreated. For a historian and especially an archaelogist, the Battle of the Harzhorn is an amazing pot of gold. None the less I'm very happy someone took interest in this battle and made a video about it. (which by rhe way, is very good!) If you haven't been there, do it. It's well worth it. And seeing the surrounding area clearifies, why scouts didn't see it coming. Two more things not mentioned here: It is assumed, that the mainroute down in flat meadows (it's even today one of the main arteries of German Traffic) was visibly blocked by Germanic Warriors, so that the Romans took another route over the Harzhorn, and that only lead into the ambush. Furthermore, the battle didn't end there, it stretched on to the Kahlberg 10km away.

    @chrissteudtner848@chrissteudtner8482 жыл бұрын
    • Oook let me clarify things a bit because I feel this is a misunderstanding. The Kahlberg is represented here because we are aware of the latest finds, it's not technically 10 km away, 5 it's between 5-6 km from the mouth of the pass. It surely has expanded the battlefield and helps to explain the scenario a bit more. At first, at least in the first reports and papers of 2009-2010 there were doubts about the nature of the engagement. They thought the pass was blocked by the germanic warriors and that the romans simply dislodged them from there. By 2017-2018 both Moosbauer and Geschwinde clearly seem to favour an ambush encounter. According to the official reports of the Landkreis Northeim archaeology team the flat land in the middle of the pass was unsuitabe for movement of heavy equipment as it was between marshy and soft. Then there is the Böhmer Berg, a small hill barely noticeable (that's why we didn't represent it) but important as it would have obstructed the vision and cover what was happening at the vanguard. We know for certain that the research of the battlefield is not over yet and that our video might be obsolete in a couple of years. The find density is great you are right, but let's be honest here (I'm a historian and archaeologist too), compromises have to be made when making videos. For hardcore history fans (I count myself there) it is never enough unfortunately. Keep in mind that for many this is the first notice they have of the battlefield. That's why we put our sources for people interested in the subject because we hope to incite to people to read and get informed and as proof of transparency. I'm no expert as the Harzhorn team so it's better for us to introduce the topic true to reality and then direct the audience to the people who really know the battlefield. It's a pity to left things behind but if you don't do it the video can end up being a lecture of literally +40 minutes. If you want to discuss the creative decisions please feel free to join our discord and I will be more than happy to answer you. I hope this clarifies everything and sorry if you feel like we didn't cover the more juicy aspects of archaeology. We did try to contact the Harzhorn Museum for support twice but they never replied unfortunately :(

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez Thx for your answer. I was just irritated about you saying, the finddensity was sadly rather miniscule. And I wanted to right that. Of course there could always be more, but given the circumstances, it's perfect.

      @chrissteudtner848@chrissteudtner8482 жыл бұрын
  • Visited at the suggestion of _toldinstone,_ and couldn't help but subscribe. I had never heard of this clash before.

    @fuferito@fuferito2 жыл бұрын
    • I am glad you enjoyed it, welcome aboard! :)

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video! I visited the site last sunday and walked around on the trail on the Harzhorn, where a lot of information about the battle can be found on signs. Right now i am actually in the process of creating my very own video about the Battle of the Harzhorn, cool to see you dealt with this highly interesting subject as well.

    @HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for your furure video I hope to see it and I envy where you’ve walked lol have a good one sir

      @sethdominickortiz@sethdominickortiz2 жыл бұрын
    • I know of Hannibal too , of course he's your brother ; take care . Greetings .

      @milovetto5977@milovetto59772 жыл бұрын
    • @@sethdominickortiz Sorry for the long time it took me to get it done, but the video in question is online now. I hope Mr. Filaxim Historia does not mind it when i share the link here? Hope you enjoy it Seth! kzhead.info/sun/qqZ-l9eunJOAooU/bejne.html

      @HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling2 жыл бұрын
  • I can't believe I never knew of this battle. Thanks. 👍

    @misaelfraga8196@misaelfraga81962 жыл бұрын
  • Got sent here by "toldinstone" and I'm so pleased. I've subscribed.

    @jimfrodsham7938@jimfrodsham79382 жыл бұрын
  • Filaxim Historia I can say after countless Videos on Romans ! This one is your best and did it wonderfully , 100% dead on ! Excellent Work ! I hope you would do vid on LImes Germanicus and other Limes across empire But LImes Germanicus mainly the store of it from 83AD -260AD of Land of Germania east Rhine that Roman Empire held ! Also Maybe a Vid of Long history of Roman allies ! Excellent Work Filaxim Historia , This is your best work yet !

    @philmccracken7520@philmccracken75202 жыл бұрын
    • Hello Phil! I remember you commenting on some of my earlier videos, so it means a lot for you to say this is one of my best works. Thank you for being a loyal viewer of this channel, I look forward to creating more for your enjoyment. Cheers to you, friend!

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video a battle I was not aware of..

    @stephensmith6417@stephensmith64172 жыл бұрын
  • Came here from toldinstone!! Love in-depth looks at battles like this! Subscribed

    @marleymae24@marleymae242 жыл бұрын
  • I love the animation, it's not fancy but it's very clear and effective at describing the events along with the narration! Keep up the great work

    @c63amgblack@c63amgblack2 жыл бұрын
  • I came from toldinstone. This is reallllllly good

    @Jesse_Dawg@Jesse_Dawg2 жыл бұрын
  • This is more amazing than I thought.

    @shreowotheartist253@shreowotheartist2532 жыл бұрын
    • Glad we surpassed your expectations then :)

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
  • Your work deserves way more recognition. Great narrative, great visualization even with limited resources.

    @markuseisenstock7690@markuseisenstock76902 жыл бұрын
  • toldinstone's video and this gives me a huge Heart of Darkness vibe after the Romans cross the Limes, excellent stuff.

    @gabrielinostroza4989@gabrielinostroza49892 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video, glad that you covered this underrated battle.

    @Fenniks-@Fenniks-2 жыл бұрын
  • How interesting! I knew nothing about this campaign. Thank you for posting this.

    @pittbullking87@pittbullking872 жыл бұрын
    • did you see the first part of this video? m.kzhead.info/sun/lK2fhbGSg19-bHA/bejne.html made by toldinstone who is mentioned here

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • Since the discovery of the site was announce, I've been waiting for more information on it and get excited every time a new piece of information comes.

    @Yorgar@Yorgar2 жыл бұрын
  • Everything about this video is great. The quality, the mention of the sources, the use of correct 3rd century models... Well done

    @connectedhistory@connectedhistory2 жыл бұрын
    • It was a real problem because the are no good quality models of this period in video games hahaha. There is a mod named Restitutor Orbis for Rome Total War but we thought it was too old, Empire Divided for Rome 2 didn't fulfill our expectations so we had to literally dug up a reskin mod called Restitutor Orbis for Rome 2 and still we felt it was a precarious compromise hahaha

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez AFAIK the 3rd century transition from the typical equipment of the legions of the principate to the late roman period is not well understood or documented by sources. So the post-Antonine legions will always pose a challenge. All we know that the Niederbieber Type Helmet came, but then in the late 3rd century was completely replaced by Spangenhelm/ridge helmet designs. Longer swords were used from the Severian period, spears became widespread again in the legions and shields rounder. But it is not clear when or exactly why these trends started. Often "barbarisation" is blamed, but this is too simplistic, as many trends are already visible from the late 2nd century. Long story short - your models do a great job depicting what we know from archeology and sources. Thanks for that.

      @connectedhistory@connectedhistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@connectedhistory You are right it's a difficult period to represent, mostly in shields because there is a huge lack of shield remains from this period. Otherwise in helmets we have huge numbers of them, from the Burgh Castle, Late Italic and Gaulic models with huge neck protections, and more extravagant ones which I don't remember their names 😅. The main trend is that they tend to be more enclosed. We also know the pilum was still in use and that the spear grew in importance. The legions started to have formal organic skirmishers and light infantry. Swords are generally longer yes and the armour stayed pretty much the same. The biggest change does happen in the clothing and accesories of the legionaries surprisingly. Finding a mod which satisfied all those requisits was veeeery hard. As to the date of when this things started to happen I personally think the roman army evolved gradually during the IInd century AD and the Severan period. Trying to argue in favour of a sudden change or massive reform seems unlikely to me. And with barbarisation you are totally right, it is often an exaggerated statement which in any case affected the legions performance in battle

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez Restitutor Orbis for Rome 1 has been released as a beta in 2020 actually, but I get what you mean.

      @robertflueraru8353@robertflueraru83532 жыл бұрын
  • Great Video. Really good how you showed, that the Battle was Split in two different Szenarios. I live in Germany and visited this battle-side. Great to See that archeology aint dead and the battle-side is yet to be fully uncovered.

    @JeyyPi@JeyyPi2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video! You bought the past to life. Even in crisis the military power of Rome was immense.

    @buckwylde7965@buckwylde79652 жыл бұрын
  • Crazy, I remember being in a local Museum that was centered around this specific battle.

    @watershock9211@watershock92112 жыл бұрын
  • I live only a few kilometres from the site. It's a beautiful open air museum with a lot of activities and interesting guided tours going on. The battle was only discovered because hobby archeologists found a horseshoe and thought it some medieval lamp of raiders. Thanks for the beautiful video. :)

    @maxlossie5824@maxlossie58242 жыл бұрын
    • did you see the first part of that video? if not chekc out. itss great kzhead.info/sun/lK2fhbGSg19-bHA/bejne.html

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing work dude. Love that you included your evidence and context. To me this really sets your channel apart. Interesting to think that thanks to videos like this one these individuals' names and legacies are remembered nearly 1800 years after their deaths.

    @p03saucez@p03saucez2 жыл бұрын
  • Very well done, glad to see you finally break into the realm of battle maps and small moving tactical parts. Definately do much more of these in the future as it seperates you from just simply being a glorified podcast into something more. Happy to see you collaberate with a great youtube friend but the part 1 being on another channel should have been mentioned in the beginning for reference so i couldve gone and watched that first.

    @dariusghodsi2570@dariusghodsi25702 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!! I'm speaking as his researcher so the opinion of Filaxim may be a bit different. The problem with battles is that it is an overcovered and "repetitive" world in which there are well stablished channels and pretty much every battle has already been covered. Our idea is to cover less known aspects of Roman Military History in detail such as unknown battles, fortifications, frontier systems, staff posts, legions, stories of roman soldiers... Otherwise, doing the same as bigger channels would be a mistake as we don't offer anything new. It's a risky gamble but we hope to attract the audience who always wants to know a bit more. For example no major channel except us and Toldinstone has covered this battle; you will hardly find a mention of the staff posts of the roman legion and we covered them here, the video of Vindolanda was an attempt to show how life in a roman fort was and to reconstruct one as close to detail as possible. The idea is to be associated with "well researched, entertaining and new uncovered content about the roman army" sort of brand.

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez the fort at hadrian's wall was an excellent style and choice. I disagree about the classical battles being already covered and overdone by other channels however. With all of the major channels combined, perhaps less than 5 percent of the possibilities have been done and most are not very thoroughly well researched. I know because im addicted to these battle videos and ive thoroughly checked, its a long way to go with plenty of room for an upstart such as yourself.

      @dariusghodsi2570@dariusghodsi25702 жыл бұрын
    • @@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez just as an example, 800 years of war between iran and rome is practically untouched. The list could go on if you need ideas for classical conflicts which havent yet recieved spotlight from other channels

      @dariusghodsi2570@dariusghodsi25702 жыл бұрын
    • @@dariusghodsi2570 Indeed! The maim problem is the lack of source material unfortunately. There is one such event I personally wish to cover in the future and that's the siege of Dura Europos in the 250s. Nobody has touched it and it's due time somebody takes the chance

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez yes, that was just one stop on Shapur the Great's juggernaut of a campaign. These channels tend to lean bias toward Rome and skirt around the entire conflict and usually chalk up the third century crisis to other factors. A full series on that campaign which even reached into anatolia, sack of antioch ect

      @dariusghodsi2570@dariusghodsi25702 жыл бұрын
  • This story was captivating, i wish it was a movie it! It would definitely be 5 stars! And the gaps in knowledge from the ages are perfect for interpretation

    @skie6282@skie62822 жыл бұрын
  • Very nice video,so much so because its the 4 legio flavia felix wich i am the part of the reconstructed legion of flavia felix in Split Croatia, so big thanks Filaxim

    @blazcajo3766@blazcajo37662 жыл бұрын
  • Boy, I was on the edge of my seat! XD Excellent vid Filaxim! Keep up the great work! 👍

    @mikevictory9455@mikevictory94552 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you Mike!! 😘

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
  • You my friend still out so yourself every video! Keep it up proud to say I’m an early subscriber

    @ThePatrioticTurtle@ThePatrioticTurtle2 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic stuff, thanks for another great video! And happy to see you collaborating with toldinstone, I hope there's more planned for the future!

    @Killer12345656@Killer123456562 жыл бұрын
  • excellent! finally a battle I never heard of

    @rubenheymans1988@rubenheymans19882 жыл бұрын
  • Made my evening. Thank you 🤍

    @kolawaleojomo6817@kolawaleojomo68172 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for uploading this video. I really did not know about this battle and it is a statement to what I always assumed, despite the crisis of the third century, the legions were still powerful, and what's more, better armed than during the previous century. Greetings from the south of the world! Gracias por subir este video. Realmente desconocía de esta batalla y es una aseveración a lo que yo siempre supuse, a pesar de la crisis del siglo III, las legiones seguían siendo potentes, y es mas, mejor armadas que durante el siglo anterior. Saludos desde el sur de mundo!!!

    @Rick-dt9mv@Rick-dt9mv2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! I wonder how history might have been different if the Romans would have discovered the rich silver, copper and lead veins in the Harz mountains.

    @billmiller4972@billmiller49722 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! Just found this channel, subscribed. Looking forward to more! Cheers!

    @FreeFallingAir@FreeFallingAir2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed. Welcome aboard!

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
    • @@HistoriaMilitum Thank you!

      @FreeFallingAir@FreeFallingAir2 жыл бұрын
  • fantastic. What a treat to hear accounts from those on the ground who actually fought in the wars 1800 years ago

    @ronanshanley7829@ronanshanley78292 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video. Including the names of the soldiers makes it so much more relatable. Great that you showed the inscriptions of the monuments 👍🏻

    @marcofrank2082@marcofrank20822 жыл бұрын
  • Always look forward to these

    @Floki_631@Floki_6312 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing work 👏👌

    @ultraghast2106@ultraghast21062 жыл бұрын
  • Great stuff! Thanks to you both, for the video and for introducing me to this channel. Subbed!

    @robbabcock_@robbabcock_2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent work. Well researched with sources cited. Graphics are helpful without overshadowing the narration, which is crisp and clear. You've just earned a subscriber.

    @antoniosessa6521@antoniosessa65212 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much, the video is both interesting and entertaining, great work!

    @Ivan-Shved@Ivan-Shved2 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing content, always happy to see you've uploaded again!

    @timgroothuis1217@timgroothuis12172 жыл бұрын
  • You are what I expected History channel to be! Love your videos.

    @rmfcity@rmfcity2 жыл бұрын
  • great information, had no idea the romans were still capable of such a massive invasion that late in their empire.

    @keithwalker5078@keithwalker50782 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you and for all involved.

    @kenhart8771@kenhart87712 жыл бұрын
  • Just subbed to the channel because of this videos. It's always good to find a channel covering lesser known battles, especially lesser known Roman battles. Keep up the good work!

    @SkopjanecMartin@SkopjanecMartin2 жыл бұрын
  • impressive

    @kemita@kemita2 жыл бұрын
  • Love the way you tell a story. Great work!!!

    @ricardosolano2559@ricardosolano25592 жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant step up with the video Amazing work with the battle And also with the historical details Awesome all round 👏

    @aaronwalker4017@aaronwalker40172 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful work as always.

    @ArchCone@ArchCone2 жыл бұрын
  • Such a great video. This kind of video really is amazing

    @glenng8185@glenng81852 жыл бұрын
  • What are some sources for inscriptions like the ones you cited? Was amazed at the end of the video to learn that the soldiers you named were drawn from real life.

    @d0tdash@d0tdash2 жыл бұрын
    • We put references to the inscriptions in the description. You will see the three of them (Vitalis' tombstone has not a link because is not in an online database) with their code and the link below the ancient writers. The texts all come from the Clauss Slaby database which the biggest database for inscriptions curated by scholars. If you want to see the texts unfortunately they are in latin, we translate them to english to make them easier to understand as everyone else does. But the images are great if you want to check 😉

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
  • Spectacular video as always!

    @michaelscarn5625@michaelscarn56252 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it!

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
  • I can't help but wonder if the emperor, having been a professional soldier, had a hunch that the Germans might try some funny business on the return trip or at the very least was mentally prepared for the unexpected. No doubt, by this time in AD235, every legion officer would have known about Teutoberg in AD9. So I can well imagine the emperor saying to his senior officers, something like: "Boys, we're over 300 miles beyond the Rhine. We're returning now but I want you and the lads to be ready for the unexpected. If the Germans think they can pull off another Teutoberg, well, they've got something else coming. Right, this is how we're going to do it..."

    @Dannykhc@Dannykhc2 жыл бұрын
  • Please continue your work. I have never been interested in history more than your presentations. I've also watched all your videos in just a couple days, so please let me know of any channels of similar content that you recommend.

    @doogallas@doogallas2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! It's good to hear that the Romans came out on top (eventually) in at least *one* battle in Germany! The Battle of Teutoburg Forest was *shocking* for Rome. Unbelievable that the legions could have been ambushed like that.

    @gaius_enceladus@gaius_enceladus Жыл бұрын
    • Tiberius, germanicus, maximinus, all won more than one battle in germania and sent the tribesman fleeing back into their swamps and forests

      @legate-lanius@legate-lanius7 ай бұрын
    • Man,Romans won many battles in Germania.In fact they were mostly winning in majority of their clashes with Germanic tribes.It was not like this was their only victory.What is so ubelievable on Legions being ambushed?They suffered ambushes both before and after Teutoburg.

      @paprskomet@paprskomet3 ай бұрын
  • this looks like the setup for the roman version of generation kill, pity the people with the money lack your attention to detail and the will to make something like this. btw one of the best displays of a battlefield I ever saw here in yt, many times we see TW depictions but they look as totally for embellishment and rarely the depiction match the setup, yours did which is incredibly cool.

    @egillskallagrimson5879@egillskallagrimson58792 жыл бұрын
    • We should have depicted Vitalis as Rudy Reyes and the cavalrymen as Brad Colbert, Ray, Trombley and the reporter hahahaha. Thanks for your support and compliments :). The idea came from the community posts of stories about roman soldiers. They do incredibly well and are very liked by you the fans. So, when we discovered there may have been real roman soldiers who died in this war, it was a must to spice up the story and give it a more humane touch to the whole narration. Finding a good to depict the units in the battlefield was a total nightmare I can tell you hahahaha

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez "this guy doesn't know he is in the middle of germania, he thinks he's a hero from the Illiad" Vitalis "I wear my hero armor every day in the Legion, Roma Victrix!" xDDDD By the way which community is that? Where can I find more tales about roman soldiers?

      @egillskallagrimson5879@egillskallagrimson58792 жыл бұрын
    • @@egillskallagrimson5879🤣🤣🤣 "You psycho! The arrows will kill if you don't raise your shield! " If you go to the community posts of the channel you will find a handful of stories there. It's next to the videos section once you enter the channel. The stories come mostly from tombstones where they specify their careers, origins, family, years of service, units and if they were decorated in war. There is an online database but the text's are in latin. Luckily, I know a bit of it so I can translate it with few problems since it is usually a very "administrative" speech. In the case of Vitalis for example we know he was surely a Moesian, his legion was stationed there. He might have been born in 209-210 as he died with 25 after 7 years of service so he enlisted when he was 18 around 228. He could have taken part in the Sassanid War as a member of a detachment from his legion. We know he fell in battle in the expedition and finally that he had a good relationship with one of his tent-mates since he included him in his will and was the guy who honoured him. If you read between the lines you can get a lot of information that does not appear in any book 😁

      @JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez@JonEtxebeberriaRodriguez2 жыл бұрын
  • again a very nice video from this channel.

    @enginyormaz8391@enginyormaz83912 жыл бұрын
  • wait, how you and channel "toldinstone" uploaded video on exact same topic in exact same time 1 minute apart? hmmmmmm 🤔

    @AndriyAndriyAndriy@AndriyAndriyAndriy2 жыл бұрын
    • Coincidence? I think not! This 2 part series was a collaboration between our channels. Check the end screen for part 1 of this video. Cheers!

      @HistoriaMilitum@HistoriaMilitum2 жыл бұрын
  • toldinstone told me to come here and see your video, so I obeyed his command. Great video Sir, well put together and very informative. A very good Collaboration.

    @BatMan-oe2gh@BatMan-oe2gh2 жыл бұрын
  • Fab mini doc, a connection really comes to life with the back story of the soldiers involved.

    @marcwhite7733@marcwhite77332 жыл бұрын
  • Just imagine how many things had happen and we don't yet know

    @cortobrown7919@cortobrown79192 жыл бұрын
    • true.

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • Cool video! Can't wait for another one. These are fun and interesting!!

    @MultiGamer292@MultiGamer2922 жыл бұрын
    • did you already see the first part of this video? Watch here made by toldinstone. m.kzhead.info/sun/lK2fhbGSg19-bHA/bejne.html

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • Splendid video! You, Sir, gained a new subscriber!

    @jeroenvandenbossche4699@jeroenvandenbossche46992 жыл бұрын
  • Im living 5 kilometres away from it XD

    @thenarkknight278@thenarkknight2782 жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/lK2fhbGSg19-bHA/bejne.html

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing content!

    @daciaromana2396@daciaromana23962 жыл бұрын
  • I felt a warmth in the heart how these soldiers honored their brothers in arms after their retirement.

    @alemalvina7624@alemalvina76242 жыл бұрын
    • 👎🏻 what honor to pillage foreign lands

      @justmoritz@justmoritz2 жыл бұрын
  • Great stuff. Subscribed.

    @kcharles8857@kcharles88572 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video!

    @rogerraya8614@rogerraya86148 ай бұрын
  • This video is so great that I'll ignore the modern pronunciation of "Limes", well done, exquisite details

    @XMarkxyz@XMarkxyz2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video as usual, Told in Stone is also a great channel

    @wilmetteentwistle9242@wilmetteentwistle92422 жыл бұрын
  • Nice to see a quality collaboration between two good KZheadrs.

    @t.robinson4774@t.robinson47742 жыл бұрын
  • Very good video! I actually visited the battle site today. They had an event and it is only about 40 minutes from where I live.

    @nataliemuller942@nataliemuller94214 күн бұрын
  • Great job !

    @danielc6925@danielc69252 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video.

    @nickdaniel356@nickdaniel3562 жыл бұрын
  • Cool video, pretty epic battle! I just watched Gladiator the other day so it was funny to see how similar the opening battle, in part, was to this event. And yeah I feel like to this day Rome's indirect economic influence is pretty underrated. Obviously it's a lot harder to tell where exactly that ended but it seems pretty clear from the physical evidence that it went pretty far.

    @colinmcom14@colinmcom149 ай бұрын
  • Great job 👏 👍 very nice!!!👍👍

    @jimbobhootenanny4440@jimbobhootenanny44402 жыл бұрын
  • Will there be another video about rome's legions any time soon? i think those are you best work!

    @jeetjewatspannend@jeetjewatspannend2 жыл бұрын
  • Very good this.

    @Boric78@Boric782 жыл бұрын
  • Keep up the good work

    @jamesmcc178@jamesmcc1782 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic ! Tnks !

    @pedrobariani@pedrobariani2 жыл бұрын
  • Another great video. This is the way.

    @themandoesloreagain6148@themandoesloreagain61482 жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/lK2fhbGSg19-bHA/bejne.html

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • Very cool, thank you very much. I had no idea.

    @seantomlinson8561@seantomlinson85612 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you!

    @adriangabrieljones881@adriangabrieljones88110 ай бұрын
  • Hearing about how the Romans burned, murdered, looted and enslaved as they marched through the German hinterland is quite disturbing. I think about how fortunate we are to live in a more civilized age - But then I remember recent history is just as ugly (and far more lethal). Harzhorn was a close shave for the Romans. Might've been a Second Teutoborg debacle had things gone a little differently.

    @moistmike4150@moistmike41502 жыл бұрын
    • That’s how things were back then. Better to be feared by your enemy then respected.

      @roycejames789@roycejames7892 жыл бұрын
  • Great video

    @santiagovisci2899@santiagovisci28992 жыл бұрын
    • great too ----> kzhead.info/sun/lK2fhbGSg19-bHA/bejne.html

      @aka99@aka992 жыл бұрын
  • To be fair during Thrax reign the Crisis was just starting so the decades of plague, external invasion, war against the Sassanids, corruption, civil war, economic decline had yet to take its brutal toll; but I guess it is impressive that such a deep offensive was performed successfully when just a few months before Severus Alexander had to bribe the germanic tribes to contain their raids.

    @g.sergiusfidenas6650@g.sergiusfidenas66502 жыл бұрын
  • Great work on the video. Here before 100k subs!

    @JuanCanuck@JuanCanuck2 жыл бұрын
  • Nice, could you please briefly recommend some books about Rome (military culture etc.) which you find the most informative or interesting in your opinion. It would be a great inspiration :) good work btw

    @alexandr8606@alexandr86062 жыл бұрын
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