The REAL REASON The West Is Doomed | Dr. Michael Brenner on Ukraine and Gaza
Western leaders are experiencing two stunning events: defeat in Ukraine, and genocide in Palestine. The first is humiliating, the other shameful. Yet, they feel no humiliation or shame. Their actions show vividly that those sentiments are alien to them - unable to penetrate the entrenched barriers of dogma, arrogance, and deep-seated insecurities. The last are personal as well as political. Therein lies a puzzle. For, as a consequence, the West has set itself on a path of collective suicide. Moral suicide in Gaza; diplomatic suicide - the foundations laid in Europe, the Middle East, and across Eurasia; economic suicide - the dollar-based global financial system jeopardized, Europe deindustrializing. It is not a pretty picture. Astoundingly, this self-destruction is occurring in the absence of any major trauma - external or internal. Therein lies another, related puzzle....
Michael's Article: neutralitystudies.com/2024/03...
Dr. Michael Brenner is a Professor Emeritus of International Affairs at the University of Pittsburgh and a Fellow at the Center for Transatlantic Relations at John Hopkins. He recently published an essay entitled “The West’s Reckoning” -link below-in which he argues that the two defeats-the one in military one in Ukraine and the moral one in Gaza-will have devastating consequences for the Collective West. We want to discuss this today, so thank you Michael for coming online again.
Sadly, the Western Leaders are unable to see beyond their highly malignant Greed.
What is a Psychopath? What is a Politician?
@@cathalsurfsPoliticians should seek to achieve the needs of the people they represent.
Usurpers.
Leaders are psychopaths & corrupt. All institutes are now poisoned in the same way: medical & health, education, media, science, government, defence, etc.
Simple reductionist explanations will doom us. These are all various plans. Generally British plans.
The downfall of the American Empire is that they judge and prescribe to other countries, feeling perfectly pure and blameless themselves.
I think the downfall of american empire is when its reckless action is against its own self-interest to protect Israel at any cost. It has become a vassal state of Israel.
The US isn't an empire and never has been. In fact, it's ever still the colony of the British. The US goes to war in the places that Britain has interests, for no benefit. Also patrols the world's seaways, that are what the British once patrolled and are still the main interested ones and the ones who benefit.
Based on Christian exceptionalism.
And safe
American experiment is based on Evangelical Christianity. Christianity has left American body politic but evangelism and savior complex still remains. Funny thing is they don't even know they're seen as imposing and insufferable by most of the world.
Russians are my favorite authors.They have huge understanding of the human condition😢
Many say Russian literature is the #1 in the world. And Dostoevsky is the greatest writer who ever lived.
We are cowardly collective sociopaths who inflict upon others preemptive punishment for our unjustified fears based on what our victims - in our minds - would do to us if we were them. To think of our sickness makes me even sicker.
No I will not claim that. I am an human being and will strive within reason and wisdom to do the best I can, picking myself back up even after failure.
@@william6223Very well said, wishing your claims would spread to mankind, instead of just you 🙏
that is quite correct...
@william6223. yes.. always "others" strive outside of reasons . that is what this man so well put
A thief count every one else for a thief !!! They see everyone else as they see them self !
The west is also defeated in another less flashy aspect: economy. China has now more than 30% of the manufacturing value in the world. It is now the manufacturing superpower. Its dominating industrial capital meant it can create prosperity for its people and ensure security and self sufficiency without exploiting anyone or any other country. The result of that achievement is a stunning validation of the Chinese model: Socialism with Chinese characteristics. And the west does not know how to counter it because it is culturally, socially, politically unable to move away from the death trap of neoliberal imperial capitalism. They have driven themselves into a corner culturally, socially, politically and they cannot reform, they cannot change and they will inevitably decline because they are incapable of any self reflection, lack self awareness and find more comfort in a false reality of western superiority rather than face the music of its inadequacies, incompetency, cruelty and crimes.
I refer to it as capitalism with a Confucian cultural heritage
I refer to it as capitalism with a Confucian cultural heritage
Youre delusional. China is about to have a demographic implosion of gigantic proportions. And the US could always blockade them and implode their economy at will. Its not even close by any stretch of the imagination. Good luck manufacturing products you can't ship anywhere because the Western power structure isolate and starve you out.
@@macrosense It's not capitalism. The fact is that the state controls capital and not the capital controlling the state. That is by practice not capitalism. Capitalism will never produce this level of results.
Well said. They are counter it in the usual barbarian way, war. The Western elites are truly doing a disservice to humanity, to the civilization process. But we will not allow it and we will bury them in shame, the facade is collapsing, the West is split, there are many good people who are opening their eyes.
Europe and America call themselves the International Community. Very ironic
the white countries, the mighty 12 percent.
Yes here in Africa we are a planet in is own😂
@@siamcharm7904 Got news, so called white countries aren’t white anymore 🤣
This concept is based on wealth. Any other nation, theoretically independent and self-governing, in the eyes of the Western world is a dependence. However, the situation at the dawn of the 3rd Mill. gradually moving on to Asia. Let's say for China in the '60's and now. Yet, the Western world still is claiming its position, carelessly of the mutation.
You mean Europe and the USA, there are many countries in America.
Hypocricy of the Western media regarding Palestinian tragedy is despicable. Kidnapping of an English girl in Spain a few years ago dominated western media for months. Annihilation of thousands of not-so-white, not so-blue-eyed and not-so-blond Palestinian children is ignored or downplayed at the best.
More than rac-m, it’s about the power of a certain group in the US.
If there were pictures of starving blonde little girls instead of Palestinians, the jewish lobby in US would find itself isolated regardless of its money powers. There is a media campaign to downplay this genocide by finding & using other news as distractions too. @sylviam6535
Obviously your own people should come first before others for every government in the world, nothing weird about that, what is weird though is that western leaders are zionists
When u figure out who owns the Federal reserve the faster it all makes perfect sense. Let me print a nations currency, and I care not who runs the media. Satan Obiden Clinton Bush Rothschild.
@@sylviam6535Here is knowledge: The USA spent Billions in and on Afghanistan- SOLDIERS DIED there- All so the US can protect the POPPY fields- NOW that Fetanyl is pouring in over the border- and few are using Poppy derivative called Heroin- they PULLED OUT of Afghanistan faster than a pimp test driving a first time prostitute. THATS THE TRUTH.. The USA uses the military for financial gain at American peoples expense. You are being lied to, and decieved. The banksters can not get into Russia or China- which is exactly why we they wanted to get into Ukraine, while Media propaganda paints China as an enemy. Bill Clinton, Obama, Bush, Biden are just puppets- and none of you can even see it.
The UK as always been America's main lackie
The ruling classes, maybe. They can be ousted by the electorate though, given sufficient determination. We need to distance ourselves from the ‘interests’ of NATO (actually only US interests, ask a German about this), and those working for outside forces, eg WEF, WHO, and other corrupt organisations.
UK does not have oil. Middle Eastern nations with oil are the main lackies propping up US petro dollar hegemony. European nations are simply henchman of the mafia that has power through oil.
And the USAs Israel
We must become millions of true tellers before it is too late.
Most of the "narrative tellers" are paid professionals who spread one story and suppress any counter-argument. It's not as if people were not able to recognize the truth when they see it.
This statement must be written in the sky for all to see
During 1974, all the students in my friend-circle felt that America was in the waitingroom to doom and destruction. We knew it was just a matter of a few decades.This is not a surprise or shock to me that the American Empire is in steep decline. The implosion is faster than I thought it would be. Not one in my social circle emmigrated to the US. Greetings from South Africa
“For generations, we'd all been educated to worship at the altar of private capital's unrestrained pursuit of profit for the greatest benefit of its shareholders, as Milton Friedman argued in his 1970 essay entitled “The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits” (PDF). No other considerations can shape the development of production and distribution of goods and services in our economies, else someone will shriek, SOCIALISM! Worse, we’ve even allowed ourselves to become convinced that individuals’ unrestrained pursuit of their own interests can somehow automagically lead to the best possible outcome for the whole society. As it turns out, those ideas were the owner class’s self-serving delusions that incubated the fatal flaw within their system, rendering it fragile and weak. The flaw has festered as an undiagnosed malignancy because it enabled the interests who own our Military Industrial Complex and other key industries (the big banks, big tech, big ag, and big pharma) to become extremely wealthy. They also became deeply entrenched in society’s power networks. As such they’ve grown and wholly resistant to any curtailment of their extraordinary privileges, even when it becomes clear that they are driving their nations to destruction. That gang is now discredited. And yet they remain in control. That is the essential problem we face today. It is a problem that vexes all the lower orders of society all across the world as they work to find ways peacefully to unseat the elites from their ill-used power. In this struggle, it is not Daniel Bell who is our prophet but C. Wright Mills and Murray Rothbard, who despite their divergent ideological perspectives agreed on one thing: it is unjust and unworkable that a small elite should rule the world without the consent of the governed.” Excerpt from article: Ukraine war and Western system's fatal flaw The undiagnosed malignancy at the core of our system is now out in the open view by ALEX KRAINER
Smart move
dude that was FIVE DECADES AGO when you made your prediction so no credit on that. and you chose to move into a slightly neutered colonial settlers project that has Blacks living in poverty while non Blacks prosper. you get ZERO props from this Foundational Black American.
I always had no desire to live in that Empire 🇿🇦
Is it safe to be white in SA. Or are you in Western Cape
A puzzle indeed, one that is beyond disturbing. We in the collective West have lost our moral compass.
Unfortunately, the moral compass of the western ruling elite was always a thin, racist and selective veneer.
Marx explained it all. Try the Manifesto.
When did it have it?
When, in the last 600 years, did we have one NOT driven by greed, aggression and hypocrisy?
@@vaska1999 Barbarian Western hordes
I have to say I'm really surprised by the difference in response between Gaza and Ukraine by Western leaders and the mainstream media.
Who control the western press? 😂😂 Lies, slander is their modus operandi 😂😂😂 and people believe the fairy tales 😂😂😂
Why? They've been lying about Ukraine from before Day 1, so why would they suddenly become honest and decent about Gaza?!
I noticed some very PC people putting Ukraine flags up on their Facebook accounts. Now the same people ignore Gaza. Pathetic. The Liberals of the West aren't different to the Fascists.
I am not, that is how it works
superb interview. we americans are fed stories from birth that we are somehow superior to other peoples. city on the hill, manifest destiny, exceptional, indespensible. etc. those tales , all euphemisms for white supremacy, are now coming under serious scrutiny and and we are finding this very psychologically threatening . we are lashing out in all directions to maintain our identity. our poor country will not begin to heal until we stop lying to ourselves.
News flash. I know of no developed national society that does not think of itself as being somehow superior to all other peoples.
That's not a euphemism for the racism you display by your terminology. It's a lie to keep the population dulled whilst the powers pillage and plunder.
Identity 😂😂😂😂😂 Greedy control & money
America is not a pro white supremacy country. That has absolutely nothing to do with US policies. Just look at our immigration policies which are designed to reduce the white share of the US population, our "affirmative action" policies which advance all non - white groups at the expense of whites, our extensive and on some points unconstitutional revolutionary civil rights reforms in the 1960s which continue to be vigorously enforced, and our economic warfare policies waged on white ruled South Africa and Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) until whites there gave up their political monopoly and granted universal suffrage to the non - white majority. Blaming our abusive and self defeating foreign policies today on "white supremacy" is ludicrous and self delusional.
@@michaels4255 no, you are wrong. The original commenter is spot on.
If anyone is not outraged, they are surely hypnotized.
Their authorities are corrupt and the population lives in a media blockade and propaganda that brainwashes them and constantly intimidates them.
They are brainwashed by the ZIONISTS' media, lies and propaganda.
Outraged at you
Some people just don't acknowledge the atrocities going on.they just don't entertain any discussions. They're complicit in allowing it to carry on..I hang my head in shame.
I’m more than willing to discuss it. It’s your buddies that won’t allow my truth to be heard! If you think that anyone wants genocide, you are mistaken or they wear a double S on their uniforms! You should be questioning and learning why this is happening instead of just blaming people when you don’t know what’s really going on. Blame those who committed the 75 years of terror before the final straw they committed on 10/7.
Most people are just fast asleep. They have NO idea what's going on around them, nor do they really care.
Stop digging. The split is complete and it is time for action. Prepare your defence in its full facistic deployment, and stop insulting logic. May the worthy worldview prevail.@Davidwasghostedbyutube
Brother these atrocities by your ruling class have been going on for centuries. The negro took the brunt. It’s now that white supremacy is taking aim at the east that everyone is getting upset
IMO you've/we've been duped. They're very good at it. No shame to be had. But what now?
Excellent Interview
Thank you both
Pascal, I so admire and respect your channel, you are waaay ahead of your times.
So right 👍
Not really - it is later than you think it is.
Thank you. Shamefull times.
Great to listen to the Professor.
Thank you, Pascal, for Neutrality Studies. You are one of the journalistic heros of our time.
I agree!❤
My sentiment exactly ! Thank you for putting proper words reflecting my thoughts and demonstrating the reality of what I've been sensing for a decade now.
Dr Brenner is a brilliant man..please have him on again soon. Thank you. 🙂👍
What is a Psychopath? As long as this minority is not only allowed to exist within our society, but to rise in positions of power, we are all doomed. Amazing interview with an amazing man. Thank you. Much love, from Ireland.
You got the controllers and the controlled, who is more powerful?🤔
Before the Europeans came, India and China were the wealthiest nations by GDP.
Sources?
@@alexdetrojan4534 Most of human history was this case. Westerners are shocked by this.
@@SammyCee23 where's your sources for this statement? Otherwise it's just your opinion...
@@alexdetrojan4534 It's not opinion. Europe (or Western civilization) was only dominant globally in the last 200-400 years.
They are scared to stand up to US and therfor NATO/EU. Its so sad and #disturbing
Those days are coming to an end and we are now accelerated towards that time,.....approaching light speed
Inside the US government, British control the neocons and the EU controls the progressives. The British have had internal control for a long time.
@@scottn1405 I can only hope so, but it seems to me that as long as Europeans are shackled by the EU, no change is possible.
England, that ”secretly” dictates in still colonized USA.
We need to acknowledge our hubris and extreme foolishness.
Pascal. It would be good to interview a physcologist on the behaviours of western leaders. Im sure they would be using the terms 'sociopath/psychopath/narcissist/affluenza.' Politics boils down to human behavior.
They are puppets only, the real psychopaths are behind the curtain. Think bankers etc
People should not fall for the zionist fake gods: live life not a narrative. Truth has just one version. Beautiful interview. Thank you
there is the essense of the difference. For the Zionist, "Thruth" emanates from the mind of the Virtuous (ie. the Zionists). For the rest of us "Truth" is evidential physical reality. For one, virtue driven propaganda determines truth, for the other, physical evidence determines truth. One is good at marketing. The other is good at engineering
Yes the sympathy ship has sailed .they are despicable and not even trying hard to hide
Zionism is a political project, not religious. Just a bunch of European elitists controlling the US from inside congress and White House.
While I don’t entirely disagree, I’m also of the opinion that the entire mulslim world is also a type of “Zionist” state. Yes , even racist ! Can anyone honestly deny this.
Zionists are liars. Anyone who can't see that is certainly blind.
"Human rights have been simply used as just another tool in the toolbox of hegemony". I almost weeped. The level at which much of the world understands the current socio-political and socio-economic "metabolism" of the 21st Century, virtually guarantees that future horrors will eclipse the tragedy in Gaza. I am content to be an old man.
Excellent interview Merci Pascal ❤from 🇿🇦
*“When I'm gone, they'll just find another monster. They have to, to justify their wages.”*
My book ”How the NEOCONS tried to destroy the world. Russia after Jeltsin” is written in both English and Swedish. The Swedish version is at the printers.
Excellent program.
If you oppose the behavior of the Israeli army towards the Palestinians in Gaza, you will be labeled by many as anti-Semitic. Then the question arises, who are or were the Semites? And, what does it mean with Democracy, the word adopted by the West? The word Democracy was adopted as the ideology of the West, although they should know that in that period, Athens or Greece was a slave state, where only 1000 men had the right to vote and make decisions. Women did not have the right to vote.
I’ve been waiting to hear someone say it like this.
Amongst the leaders of the Western world there seems a determination to cling to various ideas and policies which do not fit the reality of recent history and political momentum. The US spearheads this fixed thinking in spite of many contrary and sensible views. We see it played out in Ukraine and Gaza. This interview highlights the issues extremely well. Will there be a sensible outcome? Things don’t look too good……..
Listen... I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America..... My first experience when i began my education at 5 years old. For the next 2 years before any education had begun. the class would stand up face the flag and PLACE our right hands over our hearts and in unison we would recite the pledge of allegiance. That's 5 times a week. First thing in the morning. Before any education has started at 5 and 6 years old.... break this ritual down and it becomes very revealing in regards to the nature of the pledge of allegiance. Hand over our hearts is a profound action . Reciting this in unison gives a sense of belonging. First thing in the morning. 5 days a week. I learned the pledge of allegiance and almost 50 years later I can recite this word for word... we all can. I haven't been taught what pledge nor allegiance even meant.... Idk what if any impact this had on us . But just our age alone.... at 5 yeara old, is something that pisses me off!
You pledge allegiance to the Lobbies which control the United States of America.
There are plenty of things wrong with our policies in the USA, but there is nothing inherently wrong with patriotic rituals. Every healthy society tries to indoctrinate/socialize its members so they will not grow up to be misfits. That would not be good for either the group or the individual. "For the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack." - Kipling
@@michaels4255 Agreed. That said I'd rather pledge to a flag and an ideal than spend each morning singing praises to the "Great Leader" or the like.
America is MYSTERY BABYLON!
It's the age in which was chosen that I find extremely problematic. If this began in middle school or high school when we are able to comprehend what we are saying (pledging allegiance to) than it wouldn't bother so much. But I suppose that would present problems of its own.to a broader point, how much allegiance should we have to a government (not country)?
Just love & appreciate these real discussions about matters so important to our workd
I don't agree with Brenner's statement that it is "impossible to understand" the motives of the West with regard to its belligerency towards Russia, its unwavering support for Israel (and its growing belligerency towards China. The issue comes down to natural resources. Russia has enormous reserves of natural gas, oil and coal. China has secured long term contracts with a wide range of fossil fuel suppliers all across the globe. By contrast, Europe has very limited natural resources and the US shale oil bonanza will be in rapid decline within the next 5 to 10 years at most. Without cheap and easily accessible fossil fuel supplies both the US and Europe will become increasingly dependent on other nations, including many 'unfriendly' nations - principally those which they have long exploited - for their energy requirements. I believe that Western leaders have only recently begun to appreciate these realities are now desperately attempting to crush the stronger competitor nations (China and Russia in particular) with a view to eventually taking control of their natural resources and high-tech industries. But I am also convinced that the West will ultimately fail in this endeavour and will provoke another World War rather than concede their economic primacy to the BRICS+ nations and the nations of the global south.
3 reasons my contempt for American Diplomacy, or lack thereof, has grown, there is no diplomat currently worth his salt, there is a lack of knowledge about the Countries, the "Diplomats" are assigned to,and Huberous, of assuming all doors should swing open for them, a new approach is needed
American diplomacy has been the domain of an agency known as CIA. Nobody in America even knows what diplomacy means!
You're not alone; eminent historian Steven Kotkin, in a presentation ~ 6 years ago commented, "if we had a State Department ....". The US does have at least one high caliber diplomat, but he is operating as DCI: William J. Burns
Well summarized evaluation of the craziness we are seeing.
The situation in Gaza is no different to how it has been since 1947, the idea that suddenly the West is somehow complicit in an extraordinary outrage is absurd. Western leaders have taken their countries into disastrous military conflicts for decades, Ukraine will be an embarrassing blip in comparison to the humiliations wrought by various Middle Eastern, Asian, and East Asian countries over the past 5 decades. That the West will fall is a foregone conclusion, the reason has nothing to do with Gaza, the Palestinians, or Ukraine.
Oh really? How was Israel formed? By whom? Who is in the US cabinet which has waged war on Russia via Ukr?
in the end, complacency on part of a democratic society is disastrous. majority in west were oblivious to the consequences of all their actions for century. blaming squarely only its leaders now will not'whitewash its 'democratically agreed' past actions. hope the west does not deny the process of democracy out of spite but mature with it
I attended a catholic school. Every morning before the start of classes we prayed. Then we said the pledge of allegiance. One of the students (usually me) would sing the Star Spangled Banner or America the Beautiful or My Country Tis of Thee. My family immigrated to this country. I don't recognize my country anymore. People are sick, physically, mentally, and spiritually. The whole gangsta rap scene is just the tip of the ice berg.The gov't doesn't care for its people, as evidenced by the shameful treatment of the men and women who fought for this country and the endless and merciless wars this country provokes. America the Beautiful is now The Belly of The Beast. There is no other place to run to. Everyone is infected by the moral contagion of the Collective West and increasingly, the Emerging and Developing World.
All you did was repeat tried and tested traditionalist conservative themes and verbiage. The exact same mantra conservative older stock White Americans repeated ad nauseam in the 1900s, 1910s and early 1920s.
You pledge allegiance to the Lobbies which control the United States of America.
@@stavroskarageorgis4804Not correct. Yes, Americans in the early 20th century recognized that their country had problems and made mistakes back then too (all countries are inhabited by imperfect humans and have room for improvement), but they still had high hopes for it and believed its ills could be remedied. They knew that for all its faults America was by far the best place in the world to live, and the federal government's ability to meddle in its own citizens' affairs or those of other nations was far more circumscribed than today by both disposition and much lower levels of tax revenue. And we did not even have an intelligence agency. Today we have 17!
America is MYSTERY BABYLON!
You must be white....
what a great guest great show very very informative
Thank you both🙏🏻❤️
Spectacular dialogue, Pascal, and I share your optimism. Living through all these events since 1944, at age 79 going on 80 in a couple months, I do see such integrative epistemological leadership brewing up in the States.. from some unexpected vectors of agency. Let's keep Hope Alive & thriving, and go on working for its Fulfillment...! 🎉
What a brilliant and concise analysis. I will pursue the writings of Michael Brennan. Thank you.
Israel is not an ally of the US..there is no treaty to that effect.
Zionists control the USA . Israel attacked the USS Liberty without any consequences Mossad Jonathan Pollard ( biggest threat to US national security ) spied without any consequence for Israel AIPAC control US Politicians & Law-makers
Arseswipes yes
At law, a contract can be in writing, verbal or both. Enough that the conduct implies a particular cours of action
The US is an ally of the otherc side, it suffice
American Jews influence elections
Very interesting discussion. Thank you.
We should not forget Europe made America
American here. not so much. America’s wealth, culture and whatever soul it has was “made” by my people, Foundational Black Americans, the slaves and their descendants. and we’re STILL trying to get ours out of these bastards.
And Australia, New Zealand, Israhell, South Africa and many more.😅
Europe did not make America, the religious extremists and the most greedy and stupid left Europe and settle in US. After one generation, is not anymore European, is American
Europe didn't make the usa, it made a costly mistake :)
America saved Europe s freedom
It's Imperialism/capitalism , baby
Wow I am an American and that first opening paragraph he wrote was stunningly accurate. I personally carry an enormous amount of shame for America
Not me, no guilt here. Never ever wanted to go down this path. Was never asked and if I was asked no one in charge would listen.
Shame for the leadership, not for the citizens...
@@oliveoil7642exactly!
Brenner's calibre of style and intelligence is disappearing from this world, he is precious and thank you for having him on your programme.
interesting thing about principles is they cannot be selectivily enforce withouth falling in a blatant hypocrisy, principles in the end should be universal. If they obe applies them selectivily it is just macchiavellism.
Not we the people it's the government thats complicit
"We the people" is a lie to make WTP believe they actually have any power to steer policy
So that means democracy is nothing but a sad farce.
He failed to make that distinction...
Great Interview. I gained new insights Thank you and Dr. Brenner.
Not much recognition of greedy billionaires, here. They didn't want you to see them.
No one gives a shit about billionaires really, what they care about is that the ordinary person isnt making 200k in a free market and can't buy a house, if you do can do that, would people really care about greedy billionaires or wealth inequality?
@@johnmcternan4157 , you completely missed my point. Gas reserves off the Gaza coast, massive profits from the spoils of war, especially if they succeeded in beating Russia, are motivations for their effective wielding of their financial power, and rewriting of history to conceal their part in directing these events and populations. Blaming brainwashed manipulated populations or conscripts completely misses the true mechanics of these events.
@@johnmcternan4157, you completely missed my point. Their pursuit of gas off the Gaza coast, and a massive spoils of war if Russia were defeated, motivates billionaires to brainwash and manipulate populations and conscripts to do it, and explain it from their brainwashed eyes to hide the true source and mechanics of these events, and the profits. All that WWII history and religion and nationalism provides great cover for trillion dollar capers.
@@MacFriscoI agree with everything you said
These meetings take place all the time…world economic forum,bilderburg, and so forth. But their aims are different.
Well you cannot stop decadence, said Nietzsche. You can only slow it down.
. "The desert grows: woe to him who harbors deserts!
Every dog has its day. USA has had 300 years. Not a bad run
A spectrum of insanity, psychosis, sociopathy, psychopathy.
The professor Brenner got it right it should be published all over the world.
This is of utmost importance for people to investigate and discuss this article and think with 100% of once capacity - logic, empathy and moral aspects! The world has let capitalism to far in that it will eat up it self. Capitalism is morbid and unmoral! You see US corrupt model destroying the only planet we have
Great interview and I liked Michael Brenner’s final remarks.
There are actual ‘isolationists’ - and, this is less smear as it descriptor. There were pre-WW2 ‘neutralists’ but this, like everything on the national scale, was not made up of one body of world view. This group diverged into three groups after Pearl Harbor: Those that got behind the war effort, those that were, in fact, complete isolationist in the full sense of the word - and, the peace movement. These three divergent paths, today, are the neoliberal neocons (bear with me on that descriptor - I meant to put those two terms together), the libertarian tendency in Americans as a social movement, and, the humanitarian internationalist peace and justice movement. The two latter groups can and do ally with each other over anti-war issues and matters of liberty - but, are fundamentally distinct and also do diverge significantly in important ways. The third leg - the neoliberal neocons - are, true to their nature, completely combative towards the other two elements (while Democrats nominally support the Peace Movement and Republicans identify more closely with Libertarians for their own overlapping reasons). However, you can no longer divide it up on major party lines - why I call the establishmentarians of both parties ‘neoliberal neocons’ as both terms, together do describe both. *In sum, the historic difference between the Jefferson and Adams approach is iterated today as the two branches of the duopoly - but, there are iterations that occur beyond that. Why the Libertarian anti-war stance is firmly in the same tradition - while the Peace Movement is markedly to the left of the elements that want military intervention (who call themselves “moderates” or the “center” for that very reason). The Peace Left has Jeffersonian ideals but goes well beyond that, taking it to a convergence of attention on class and race as essential to building peace and solving problems.
Thank you.
Notably, unprecedented numbers of government officials have publicly broken out and opposed the Political Caste, on Gaza. 800 against Van Der Leyen and many against the US Gov.
The WEF is a big factor !😅
Interesting you are the first one to mention them. I was waiting to see whether anyone will. Looks like the majority in the US are either unaware of that key force in this whole global mess, or are already deeply hypnotised by them and thus already rendered ineffective before the final battle starts between that satanic cabal - the real vampires and the humanity. WEF are sitting back and enjoying the show both in Ukraine and in Gaza. America and EU are doing all the heavy lifting for them. EU leaders are their devoted conscripts. They have already signed away their countries to the Schwab's 4th reich in the making. Australia and Canada too. America, yes! They have their team in the highest echelons of power - only I am not sure all are aware what that will mean for America as we know it. Do they realise it is about to be sacrificed for the globalist goals and will thus cease to exist if all goes according to the WEF globalist agenda. So far, so good - Americans are doing a great job at its self destruction. I am not sure of China's role. But in the end, ironically, Putin seems to be the only one that might stand in their way. Because if that satanic cult succeeds, we are about to live the worst nightmare in the history of the mankind. I am glad I am old. I would just like to live long enough to see who wins.
I agree with what has been said. Sadly these fellows don’t really come up with an answer as to what to do about the problem.
Dr Brenner, that is actually called Racism..a feeling that they are way superior to their rivals or enemies, and one cannot negotiate peace with people whom you consider way lowly, and genocide is rather similar to Mercy-Killing
9:30 How did we get here? Dr Brenner: "Let's begin and look at the United States..." No truer words ever spoken.
Sadly we are watching America fall in real time! As an American, I find this no surprise we have AIPAC a foreign lobby that selects who we vote for by way of money the bad decision to allow money to take over who we vote for when we own the airways and easily could demand free time for hopeful candidates free time and set limits to paid advertisement.
Michael Brenner is your best guest ever, in my opinion! Thank you 🙏🏼
We need more great talkers like Pascal Lottaz and Michael Brenner who give such a brilliant understanding of this situation
Thank you, great interview.
Hello from Greece ‼️Thank you both ‼️
The comparison of model vs agent, is a primary frustration of many people who like the USA but hold absolute contempt for its foreign policy.
Admit, dear common western Europeans, the more of all this $#!+ reveals, the more you want a president like Putin :))))
The moment to turn around and escape all of this was the moment just after the largest ever terrorist attack on vital infrastructure of Europe, and Germany, the north stream pipeline explosion. In place of naming the terrorist, and using that to drastically change it's policy, EU political elites joined the cover up. Coming with the explanation that paraphrases a joke about the gypsies and stolen train rails. "Four still anonymous Ukrainians, two women and two men, in a sporty yacht blew up a construction on the bottom of the ocean, as strong as Niagara dam. Really, they did it, that is what happened. Nobody is looking for them, because they were just too patriotic, and is that a crime? No." There were similar situations in history, when the politics of a souveren country turned 180 degrees in one day, and by doing so saved itself. Look at SFRY cutting the ties with USSR in 1948. But, to be able to do so, you have to be trained in survival as a country. Russia is trained, the western Europe countries are sold by their elites, while it's population is allowed to listen only to lullabies. And knowing the history and previous attitude in great financial crisis, while one is coming like a tsunami, I am affraid that Anne Frank journal can soon get the second part, "the journal of Amira Faruk". Fck, now I have to learn Russian, or Mandarin, or Arabic. Look at those alphabets allone! Can we settle for Spanish as one of important languages? I mean, what South America waits?
I haven't watched this item because I know that you're right and it hurts too much.
My goodness. What an absolute delight listening and learning. Thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you.
Great interview. I’m newly finding this Professor Brenner but find him very informative. This is the truth not many are talking about.
Very educational.
The most intellectual and illuminating discussion I have ever heard on this troubling topic. Thank you!
This is my second comment after reading the attached article. I have also listened to the video several times. Thank you for delving into the current western dysfunction in depth. I am weary of cries of Ukraine is losing, Russia is winning and feigned horror at the eradication of the Palestinians that has been going on for years without interruption or intercession from those feigning horror. To stop this international fiasco requires finding the root of the problem and Dr. Brenner delves deeper than most. I disagree with one aspect of his analysis. American imperialism and Manifest Destiny were restricted to our hemisphere. Americans were reluctant to enter both World Wars and there is fierce opposition by some to Gaza and Vietnam caused mass demonstrations. When, despite our geographic isolation and lying politicians and media, we understand what is going on, we fight back. The real question is why did the U.S. adopt European style imperialism outside of our hemisphere? Brenner underestimates the adaptability of European imperialists after two devastating wars. Of particular importance are the British, who in 1956 and thereafter faced their weakened status and worked around it. It is likely the British who have blown up 14 Russian ships near Sebastopol in the last 2 years. That’s a lot of ships for a weakened Navy. I do not in any way excuse the US, but the Europeans (and Eurasians) are underestimated at present when their history is war, war and more war over centuries. I have written about this myself. Please have Dr. Brenner on again soon.
IN THE U.S. WE HAVE MOVED TO GUILTY AS ACUSED - NOT - (INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY).
Instead of fatalistic analysis, what's key is getting involved in creating better domestic and foreign policies.
These two people are still coming from a perspective that is in line with those they claim are their opponents.
Excellent conversation with a deep insightful understanding of the decline of the western world. Thank you Peter Lottaz I’m in your bubble!
I wonder who west will going to teach humanity and democracy after seeing what happened in Gaza?
You prefer other political systems?
I hated that policy in the nineties. I was an outspoken isolationist, and I knew I seemed to be the only one. Their policy was stupid and evil. I would have liked to see them arrested then, and I probably said so a few times. Every policy they came up with was the polar opposite of everything I advocated. It was some kind of irritating perversity that they did everything so perfectly opposite of what was right. There was a high order of evil in everything they claimed and everything they did. Highly structured and highly consistent evil that never broke pattern. Utterly predictable. It became boring in its predictability.
This interview is absolutely top quality, thank you so much for sharing this great man’s knowledge and insight with us!
People don't even get chocked in any ways by the actions of the Occident. I always find it surprising. People are so distressed in their general life they don't even have no time to support any organization that support other possibilities or contestations of the present leaders behaviour. Basically, there's no more public, labour, civil there to contradict this and leaders have a free pas to show what they really are and which interest they really serve. Them interests. Then, people abide to whatever is decided and affect them and hope for the best until they are just baffled by what is actually happening again and again since last great wars, internally and externally.
Excellent content, made better by the obvious mutual respect and understanding. Pascal, your body language and expressions revealed such a deep level of engagement! A genuine pleasure to listen to, learn from and to watch.
What a great conversation.
How did that dude get his Degree? How was he allowed to be a Professor?
The way that anyone in social sciences gets a degree: by telling your profs what they want to hear. Later, as a prof, you expect the same thing from your students..
@@xzqzq sadly true.
"The purpose of NATO is to keep the Americans in, Russians out and Germans down." That is your answer right there. Not much of a mystery, really. It is all spelled out very clearly and the facts on the ground corroborate it.
And stop Russians from building more Walls ??? Remember Eastern Europe in Prison ?
When you figure out who owns the Federal reserve and media, the quicker all you see happening makes perfect sense.
But Don't talk about it on POOtube because they'll delete your comments
Who does?
Europe's ppl thought they chose for the EU, who promised peace, but they didn't vote for the USA and NATO, but their leaders felt forced to go with the aggressive NATO politics.. that's something the ppl never wanted...
Great interview! Thanks both.