Lepanto 1571: Shattering the Idea of Ottoman Invincibility

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The battle of Lepanto 1571 was one of the greatest naval battles of the Mediterranean and the last one to be fought almost exclusively by rowing vessels. According to maritime historian Lawrence Mott a staggering amount of 70 to 90 percent of all war galleys in the basin participated in the fighting. Lepanto was in some sense the naval counterpart of the 1683 siege of Vienna. Contemporaries and historians long saw it as a climactic battle between east and west and mythologized it as the battle in which a Christian fleet defeated the seemingly unstoppable Ottoman threat from the east. In this video were going to look at what exactly happened in the gulf of Patras and look critically at the impact the battle really had.
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Chapters:
00:00-01:29 Intro
01:29-02:34 NORD
02:34-04:56 Chapter 1: Rising Tensions
04:56-08:57 Chapter 2: Dissent
08:57-13:17 Chapter 3: Mutual Underestimation
13:17-19:07 Chapter 4: "An infantry battle on floating platforms"
19:07-23:30 Chapter 5: Cheating Defeat
Source:
Agostón, G., Victory of the West: The Story of the Battle of Lepanto (review), www.researchgate.net/publicat... (23.12.22).
Capponi, N., Victory of the West. The Great Christian-Muslim Clash at the Battle of Lepanto, Cambridge 2006.
Finkel, C., Osman's Dream. The History of the Ottoman Empire-Basic Books, New York 2007, p. 157.
Parker, G., The Military Revolution. Military Innovation and the Rise of the West, 1500-1800, Cambridge 1996.
Glete, J., Warfare at Sea, 1500-1650. Maritime Conflicts and the Transformation of Europe, London 2000
Guilmartin, J. F., Gunpowder and Galleys: Changing Technology and Mediterranean Warfare at Sea in the Sixteenth Century, 2nd edn., London 2003.
Guilmartin, J. F. Galleons and Galleys, London 2002.
Mott, L. V., s.v. Battle of Lepanto, in: The Oxford Encyclopedia of Maritime History online (www.oxfordreference.com/displ....
Norwich, J. J., A History of Venice, London 1989, p. 518.
Setton, K. M., The Papacy and the Levant, 1204-1571, vol. 4 The Sixteenth Century from Julius III to Pius V, Philadelphia 1984.
Stevens, W., History of Sea Power, New York 1920
Sicking, L., Naval warfare in Europe, c. 1330-c. 1680, in: Tallet, Frank/Trim, D. J. B. (Ed.), European Warfare 1350-1750, Cambridge 2010, p. 242.

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    @SandRhomanHistory@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
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      @brokenbridge6316@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
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      @dand7763@dand7763 Жыл бұрын
    • I don’t get it how did the Europeans ended up believing in ottoman invincibility when ottoman invincibility was already destroyed in battles like the sieges of Vienna 1529 and the siege of Malta 1565 those battles showed the ottomans weren’t invincible so what ottoman invincibility did the Europeans believe in??

      @megalodon3655@megalodon3655 Жыл бұрын
  • There's a reason why historians consider this battle to have a much more signficant strategic impact towards World History than the Battle of Vienna did: This Battle was the Ottomans' LAST chance to prove themselves a world naval power, breakout of the Mediterreanean and eventually become a blue water navy. This battle ensured that the Ottomans would forever be bottled up and restricted to their own brown waters by the superior Navies of Western Europe.

    @Wasserkaktus@Wasserkaktus Жыл бұрын
    • only the ottomans broke out of the med quite some time before Lepanto. they fought with the Portuguese at Diu 1538 . There were expeditions to Zanzibar in 1589. The only reason the Ottomans couldnt break out of the med was no Suez canal

      @shehryarashraf5840@shehryarashraf5840 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@shehryarashraf5840 Diu was before Lepanto, and the goal was to reinforce Gujarat's forces as the Portuguese sieged it. The fact that Portugal was able to siege Diu when Portugal proper was tens of thousands of kilometers away is telling in regards to just how superior their blue water navy actually was. As for Zanzibar, the Ottomans may have been able to get a fleet down the African coast to assist whatever Sultanate against Portuguese forces (again), but the fact remains that their fleets were completely ineffective by then, which reinforces my point.

      @Wasserkaktus@Wasserkaktus Жыл бұрын
    • @@Wasserkaktus in the Siege of Diu, the Portugese were defending. The fact that the Ottomans were able to siege Diu for 4 months, so far away from Constantinople is telling how superior their Blue Water Navy actually was. Keep in mind, the Ottomans are at the same time fighting in the Med, and fighting on Land against the Habsburgs in Hungary, as well as the Iranians in the Zagros. they did not have enough resources to achieve hegemony in the Indian Ocean.

      @shehryarashraf5840@shehryarashraf5840 Жыл бұрын
    • @@shehryarashraf5840 The Ottomans never had a blue water navy. That is my point. You apparently don't know what a blue water navy is, or how it differs from a brown water navy. Look up to see how those two are different. If the Ottomans had a blue water navy, they would have explored the New World or Pacific.

      @Wasserkaktus@Wasserkaktus Жыл бұрын
    • @@shehryarashraf5840 As for claiming how great the Ottomans were on fighting on two fronts, that was the NORM between great powers in the Exploration Age. The Portuguese fought in both India, Indonesia and Africa, while the Spanish fought in huge wars in Europe while also expanding in the New World.

      @Wasserkaktus@Wasserkaktus Жыл бұрын
  • Cervantes the writer of "El Quijote" fought in this battle and lost a hand. He was later impresioned in Africa and tried escape several times. He only got back to Spain when somebody paid for his liberation.

    @drk5orp-655@drk5orp-655 Жыл бұрын
    • He didn' lose the hand. He didn't do the needed rehabilitation and lost the mobility of the arm.

      @caniconcananas7687@caniconcananas7687 Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone He was sick with fever. His officer ordered him to stay at bed, but he disobeyed him and fought until he got shot by an arquebus.

      @caniconcananas7687@caniconcananas7687 Жыл бұрын
    • Good information.. Didn't know

      @georgeabraham5672@georgeabraham5672 Жыл бұрын
    • In Spanish his nickname is "El manco de Lepanto", the one-armed from Lepanto, although he didn't lose his arm.

      @aitortilla5128@aitortilla5128 Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone sure, and you know that how exactly?

      @maximipe@maximipe11 ай бұрын
  • It's kind of a crime not mentioning at all the figure of Alvaro de Bazan commanding the League's reserve, as he is not only considered by many the greatest admiral of its time (of all time, some claim), but also is said to have been the key figure for the victory in Lepanto by interveening in the critical moments of the battle and preventing a possible disaster, as he was the one responsible for sending in the reserve to counter both Sirocco´s flanking attempt and Uluj Ali´s pounce for the League´s open right flank, as well as reinforcing the Christian center when both rival flagships clashed and exploiting the opportunity when the ottoman flagship fell. Also present in the battle were a 26 year old Alessandro Farnese (who features in your channel and was one of the greatest generals of the time) and a 24 year old Miguel de Cervantes, the author of Don Quixote, who lost an arm in the battle and was captured by the Ottomans in his way back, spending 5 years as a slave in Algiers during which he himself engineered a handful of scape attempts. If the Brits had Nelson, Wellington and Shakespeare all together in any battle (let alone one of this massive scale and significance) you can bet your ass they would not waste any time mentioning them at every chance and making a thousand documentaries and movies about them. =) As a bit of trivia, if you ever go to Barcelona, in the Naval Museum you can go on a real-size replica of the Real, the Christian flagship, and sprinkled around Spain you have other relics such as the huge banner of the Real (in Toledo, I believe) or the captured lanterns of the Ottoman's admiral.

    @higochumbo8932@higochumbo8932 Жыл бұрын
    • Very true, very disappointed. Tends to happen when all of the sources they use diminish Spanish achievements

      @Dan-lu5qd@Dan-lu5qd Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone sisoy

      @Dan-lu5qd@Dan-lu5qd Жыл бұрын
    • @@williamedwardgladstone2343I was thinking the sane thing.

      @blockmasterscott@blockmasterscott Жыл бұрын
    • Well said!

      @enriqueo8481@enriqueo8481 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@William Ewart Gladstone Would you call it "crying" pointing out that not mentioning Ney or von Blucher is kind of a crime when explaining the Battle of Waterloo? Or not mentioning Davout when talking about Jena-Auerstedt?

      @higochumbo8932@higochumbo8932 Жыл бұрын
  • Forgot to mention that two of the large galleasses were commanded by Ambrosio and Antonio Bragadino, younger brothers of the previously tortured governor of Famagusta, Marcantonio Bragadino. You can just imagine their thirst for revenge. 20:25 But not without taking with him, the captured Maltese Cross ensign of the Capitana of the Order, still displayed to this day, in some North African museum.

    @joegatt2306@joegatt2306 Жыл бұрын
    • Well it's time to retake it then.

      @giorgiociaravolol1998@giorgiociaravolol1998 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@giorgiociaravolol1998 have you tried asking for it?

      @DickEnchilada@DickEnchilada Жыл бұрын
    • @@giorgiociaravolol1998 Oh look, it seems like it's that time again.. #10th

      @Veldtian1@Veldtian1 Жыл бұрын
    • European empires invaded majority of the world, colonized two entire continents, steal every kind of ensign, national treasure and millions of lives!! So i think you people shouldn't be this salty because a single eastern empire could defeat you in your own continent and treated Christians EXACTLY same as how you were treating others...

      @ggoddkkiller1342@ggoddkkiller1342 Жыл бұрын
    • Bragadin, most Venetian names didn't end in a vowel

      @canemcave@canemcave Жыл бұрын
  • In the small Spanish village of Enciso, there is an exact copy of a Spanish warship that participated in the Lepanto battle. It was given a a token of gratitude and respect for the heroic fighting of a Spanish sailor from that small village. The strange thing is, if you are alone in that beautiful medieval church, and observe the almost one meter long replica, floating 3 meter above ground level in the centre of the church, one can almost travel in time back into that fateful battle.

    @jphalsberghe1@jphalsberghe1 Жыл бұрын
    • and the guy in the video didnt even mention the spanish at all.

      @Immigrantlovesamerica@Immigrantlovesamerica Жыл бұрын
    • @@Immigrantlovesamerica ''The fleet of the Christian alliance was manned by 12,920 sailors. In addition, it carried almost 28,000 fighting troops: 10,000 Spanish regular infantry of excellent quality, 7,000 German and 6000 Italian mercenary, and 5,000 Venetian soldiers of exceptional worth.'' Cervantes , author of Don Quichote, too, and was wounded, lost left hand..

      @jphalsberghe1@jphalsberghe1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Immigrantlovesamerica He's an Anglosaxon after all. Hispanophobia still runs deep in their veins.

      @Chunbot882@Chunbot882 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Chunbot882 Very true , he also didn't mention the two soldiers who killed Muezzensade Ali , then cut his head off and put it on a pike were Spanish.

      @alfredosenalle9284@alfredosenalle9284 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jphalsberghe1 why the differentiation between Italians and venetians?

      @SuperJuvexxx@SuperJuvexxx Жыл бұрын
  • I read a conving argument in a book about sea power that the true loss for the Ottomans at Lepanto wasn't in ships, but in skilled mariners (many of whom were killed after the battle). This loss of institutional knowledge, and maritime culture, significiantly curtailed the ability of the Ottomans to conduct aggressive naval operations for many decades, during a time when European powers were placing a greater and greater focus on their navies. The Ottoman response was to rebuild a huge number of ships, they should have built naval colleges instead.

    @morganrichards7220@morganrichards7220 Жыл бұрын
    • The Ottoman navy actually did recover after Lepanto, even capturing Tunis 3 years later, what actually caused the Ottoman navy to stagnate was ironically peace with all it's naval competitors, as for nearly 70 years the Ottomans found themselves at war with Austria and Persia, 2 land based powers without a navy, with no way to use the navy in these wars it here where the Ottoman navy actually declined until the war for Crete in 1645 when at long last, an enemy with a navy (Venice) and a campaign for a maritime goal once again presented itself.

      @LORDMEHMOODPASHA@LORDMEHMOODPASHA8 ай бұрын
    • Yep, this is about right. You can also say the effects of this Battle also showed a key weakness of the Janissary Corps, probably because the Porte was unable to actually build ANY proper naval war college because the Janissaries had near total control of the Ottoman military apparatus, and any attempt to build a naval war college could have been seen as a threat to the Janissaries on their hold lf said apparatus. Once Lepanto ended, the Janissaries decided their "big blue navy" experiment was over, and that they would focus almost exclusively on Army land operations instead.

      @Wasserkaktus@Wasserkaktus5 ай бұрын
    • @@Wasserkaktus I think what you said is true but later in the Ottoman history, likely in the XVIII century. Even after Lepanto the Jannisaries were ok. The were not the main reason why Ottos lost there, but because guns and cannons. Ottos were fascinated by cannons of huge caliber and never understood the importance of focusing on medium and small caliber ones and this is quite surprising since they were one of the first powers to use cannons for siege operations, like in the siege of Costantinople which was a turning point for their history. Infact Ottoman navy relied on speed and manuverability, in Lepanto ships mounted just one huge caliber cannon (bigger than european counterparts) usually on the prow but the crew was usually composed of bowmen and a company of Janniseries (equipped with state of art rifles, better than european ones). But this wasn't enough to match up european ships. European embarked a much superior number of cannons of different calibers and mostly arquebusier. Infantry of ancient concept like pikemen were from Spain or Germany and were a minor part of the soldiers embarked. So when a Otto ship was boarded we must consider that the ship itself was badly damaged from hours of cannon fire, the crew was badly injured from the shrapnels and mosquets. When boarded usually christian slaves on rows were usually liberated or menaged to free themselves and join the battle. I agree in Lepanto ottos had a critical loss of skilled sailors (mostly greeks) crew and despite the fact they rebuiklt another navy it wasn't like the one they lost and they didn't made any other major naval project, but europeans ships, cannons and especially the manufacturing capacity to build cannons were much more advanced than turks.

      @sp1d3rm0nk3y33@sp1d3rm0nk3y333 ай бұрын
  • The Great Siege of Malta in 1565 was the first major defeat the shattered the myth of ottoman invincibility. As Voltaire wrote, “there is nothing more renown than the Siege of Malta.malta was meant to fall in a short 3 week campaign and then to be used as a launching pad into southern Europe. Three months later the Ottomans withdrew in utter defeat.

    @chrisraphel7194@chrisraphel7194 Жыл бұрын
    • Malta was saved by the spanish tercios commanded by don García de Toledo from sicily.

      @alvar534@alvar534 Жыл бұрын
    • Not true, Malta held no strategic value to anyone (Even the Knights themselves in their own entries described how they hated the island, both the flat terrain/lack of natural defenses in mountains like back in Rhodes and the local population, a feeling that was mutual). If we're going to talk springboards, Sicily is a far larger and fertile island to use and the Ottomans had already successfully used Otranto on mainland Italy 84 years earlier (However it never saw completion because Sultan Bayezid II called off the campaign for..."Reasons", after his father, Sultan Mehmet the conqueror died). Malta was a symbolic campaign, to rectify the error of having shown mercy to the Knights 43 years earlier at Rhodes and wiping out the last remnants of the medieval crusader orders. Try to keep in mind the Europeans (And in the present day, deus vulting keyboard warriors) overexaggerated the importance of many victories over the Ottomans due to the fact the Ottomans kept winning and winning and winning, thus the slightest interruption in that streak is going to appear as nearly divine.

      @LORDMEHMOODPASHA@LORDMEHMOODPASHA8 ай бұрын
    • Also the sieges of Vienna and Eğer in 1529 and 1552 respectively had already proved Ottoman invincibility in siege warfare as a myth before the siege of Malta (Though Eğer would eventually fall in 1595).

      @LORDMEHMOODPASHA@LORDMEHMOODPASHA8 ай бұрын
    • Everyone wanted Malta but none more than Hitler and Sulaiman the Magnificent as it was the stepping stone to Nth Africa and Europe. It is on the front line of the European Army so to speak. It has no natural resources only strategic positioning. This video just showed the Ottomans wanted Malta to use it as a base to invade via Sicily. Malta is called the jewel in the Mediterranean and the whole Islands population was given the George Cross for Gallantry in WW2 where again it was said they changed the war. BTW the Knights were almost banished to Malta from Jerusalem where they fought bravely. Malta has never been conquered through war, changed hands many times and the peaceful people accepted the knights to some degree although yes they weren’t friends. When they warned the people to help fight the invading armada of 40,000 Ottoman it took a lot of convincing to get the locals to agree to help. Maybe hearing about Gozo, the 2nd largest island invaded, men killed and young women raped they were finally convinced who was the better choice to side with. It’s said about 3500 and 5000 Knights fought 40,000+. Sept 8th is a big feast day as both wars mentioned ended that same day on the Island. I am a descendant through DNA of the Knights of St John and very interested in this topic. Malta has 8500 year old amazing megaliths and steeped in history.

      @Its_Shaun_the_Sheep@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep8 ай бұрын
    • Not true. First big loss was battle of Diu 1509 when we tiny Portuguese defeated them good and sound with just 600 soldiers against a combined army of over 25k There is a reason why this battle is considered the 3rd most epic of modern times and 6th if we include old world As usual you guys insist on ignoring how epic Portugal is throughout its history or simply lying like claiming Cristovão Columbus is genovese instead of portuguese

      @user-mg3xr9tz7m@user-mg3xr9tz7m7 ай бұрын
  • cool intro. Your animation style has come a long way over the years. Yet your handwriting is still somewhat similar like in the beginning. feels like you just pushed your skills and got better without imitating anybody else. good job.

    @gabrielvanhauten4169@gabrielvanhauten4169 Жыл бұрын
  • Spanish class is when i heard the name Lepanto for the first time, and i thought it was some land battle until i read Roger Crowley's "Empires of the Seas" the book starts about the ottoman-spanish conflict, the conquest of Tunis and Djerba, then moves on to the siege of Malta (one of the best descriptions i ever came across) and finnishes with the battle of Lepanto. It's a good book.

    @ArtilleryAffictionado1648@ArtilleryAffictionado1648 Жыл бұрын
    • It is part of the Black Legend of the English-speakers that only a handful know how close they came to having to facing a Turkish fleet playing the same part actually played by the Spanish Armada. How much they owe to the Hapsburgs in stopping the Ottoman juggernaut.

      @johnschuh8616@johnschuh8616 Жыл бұрын
    • Roger Crowley's other book, City of Fortune, is also fantastic. It follows the history of Venice during the height of it's power, roughly from the fourth crusade to the fall of Constantinople in 1453. Excellent stuff all around and has an amazing depiction of the Chioggia War.

      @Oxtocoatl13@Oxtocoatl13 Жыл бұрын
  • All the blood and death of a day that has slowly merged into history. On an afternoon in 1997, we were being conducted on a tour of El Escorial, not far from Madrid, and as we walked in through the entrance hall, we could see a huge, faded depiction of a naval battle on the wall. Our guide, who was also incompetent in other respects, responded to someone’s query with a dismissive “Oh, that was just some battle.” I walked closer and read the plaque identifying the scene, turned to him and told him that was the Battle of Lepanto. That wasn’t “some battle,” it was the Trafalgar or Midway of the 16th century. Unfortunately, he failed to grasp my allusion….

    @mencken8@mencken8 Жыл бұрын
    • Do Don’t ask a European about the Pacific War. About it they know nothing.

      @johnschuh8616@johnschuh8616 Жыл бұрын
    • Maybe he was a morrocan immigrant.

      @tubba-dg7to@tubba-dg7to Жыл бұрын
    • ​@Tubba only smooth-brained individuals turn to racism so quickly

      @PedroKing19@PedroKing19 Жыл бұрын
    • @@tubba-dg7to or just a plain ...moron!

      @yiannimil1@yiannimil1 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@tubba-dg7to they wouldn't know, but it's not their fault.

      @wolfthequarrelsome504@wolfthequarrelsome50410 ай бұрын
  • My favourite part of this battle is When a Venetian named Antonio Canale jumped on an enemy vessel wearing a gambeson,and wielding a two handed sword, and “fece della persona sua meravigliose prove, con notabil danno degli inimici”, “proved himself by notably damaging the enemies” and captured a galley by himself

    @majintab7710@majintab7710 Жыл бұрын
    • pretty sure he didn´t capture it by himself

      @bypyros1933@bypyros1933 Жыл бұрын
    • grande storia!

      @eugeniocallegaro6618@eugeniocallegaro6618 Жыл бұрын
    • with a 2 handed sword on a ship. Survival vs noobs would be hard enough. Survival vs trained enemies even harder. Efficient combat even harder than that. Capturing a ship ALONE? No. by the way, if you are a Ottoman ranged unit of any kind, who do you shoot? Some of the very common, very basic, dime a dozen hostile dudes? Or the bada$$ champ with the 2 hander? with my critical thinking detailed above, I have no reason to think that this 2 handed sword triumph ever happened, or that it could ever happen.

      @istvansipos9940@istvansipos9940 Жыл бұрын
    • @@istvansipos9940 if the crew was already shattered by bombardments and melee fight why can't a specially trained dude with a two handed sword finish the job on his own by scattering the last few survivors?

      @eugeniocallegaro6618@eugeniocallegaro6618 Жыл бұрын
    • @@eugeniocallegaro6618 these are new details. Now it is an already kinda semi defeated ship and crew vs the champ :- ) Fine. 1 dude with a lance, spear, or just a long, pointy piece of broken wood backs into a corridor. Stabbing outwards. A 2 handed sword is useless there. The champ can die trying, can stay and wait, can use another weapon. In either case, the champ WITH a 2 handed sword won't take the ship. meet the same champ in a very open space on the ship, and you are fuggd. True. But then you are not dumb enough to stay and die. You risk a jump into the sea, where you MIGHT die. And we already assumed a wide open space for this encounter, so you indeed CAN reach the sea. in this case, sure, the 1 dude with the 2 handed sword took the ship. But let's face it, nobody cares about such an unevetntful triumph. I think, something more glorious and heroic and bada$$ is meant with his story. With his tale, that is. oh, and to start this whole mental gymnastics, we have to assume that a professional warrior was stupid enough to bring a 2 handed sword into an obviously crowded and well know clusterfukk (boarding action in general)

      @istvansipos9940@istvansipos9940 Жыл бұрын
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    @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 Жыл бұрын
    • this is not a viking channel. We "dine good"*.

      @clintmoor422@clintmoor422 Жыл бұрын
    • what's for dinner? i'm allergic to gluten you know...

      @gabrielvanhauten4169@gabrielvanhauten4169 Жыл бұрын
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      @themouthofsauron6926@themouthofsauron6926 Жыл бұрын
  • There is a fun fact in this battle. Miguel de Cervantes, the author of "El Quijote", fought in Lepanto and lost the mobility of his left hand. Great video! I love your art style and narration. Have you done a video on the siege of Tenochtitlán? It is a good topic and an interesting one.

    @MateoGarcia-os2yy@MateoGarcia-os2yy Жыл бұрын
    • No esta mal pero peca muchas veces de minimizar a España en los videos parece que le duela nombrarla y no soy el unico; que lo opina saludos

      @Lacteagalaxia@Lacteagalaxia Жыл бұрын
    • @@williamedwardgladstone2343 Well, Spain was like the USA of the time, the single global military superpower, to underestimate their importance is nothing short of a biased view. To put it in perspective, the future children of those survivors soldiers could attend to the Philippines University... or enroll on military expeditions anywhere in the globe.

      @GXSergio@GXSergio Жыл бұрын
    • @@williamedwardgladstone2343 I think he left many crucial numbers on the table, Spain put the commander in chief of the campaign, put a considerable navy, and filled the boats with their soldiers, which is not cheap to say the least... Without Spain, Venice was doomed. Ignoring this fact is plain bias. In a modern context, is like if we downplayed the role of USA during the war on europe against nazi germany, to the point of almost ignoring them...

      @GXSergio@GXSergio Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone He only ignored Alvaro de Bazan, who repelled the Ottoman flank attempt and saved the day. And virtually every non sailor abroad was spanish. You cant make a full video on lepanto without mentioning spain.

      @Immigrantlovesamerica@Immigrantlovesamerica Жыл бұрын
    • ​@William Ewart Gladstone well, I couldnt hear the name juan, I just Heard don John, the only name he translated to english

      @juann1400@juann1400 Жыл бұрын
  • Love GK Chesterton's poem "Lepanto" about this battle

    @Kivlor@Kivlor Жыл бұрын
    • White founts falling in the courts of the sun, And the Soldan of Byzantium is smiling as they run;

      @gabrielvanhauten4169@gabrielvanhauten4169 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gabrielvanhauten4169 There's laughter in that smile of the face of all men feared It stirs the forest darkness, the darkness of his beard. (I have the whole thing memorized. My kids and I act it out, they play Don Jon and his men, and I play the part of Mahound/Soldan/Turks 😅)

      @Kivlor@Kivlor Жыл бұрын
    • Miguel de Cervantes (the author of Don Quixote) mentions it a lot in his writings, as he fought (and lost and arm) in the battle, and Lope de Vega, Spain's most famous playwritght also dedicated a poem to Alvaro de Bazan, the commander of the Christian reserve and a key figure in the battle: "El fiero turco en Lepanto, en la Tercera el francés, y en todo el mar el inglés, tuvieron de verme espanto. Rey servido y patria honrada dirán mejor quien he sido; por la cruz de mi apellido y con la cruz de mi espada" "The fierce Turk in Lepanto, in Terceira the Frenchman, and all over the sea the Englishman, were scared to death to see me. King served and country honoured they'll say better who I've been; by the cross of my surname and with the cross of my sword"

      @higochumbo8932@higochumbo8932 Жыл бұрын
    • Viva Hispanic!

      @salvadormartin4203@salvadormartin4203 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Kivlor It curls the blood red crescent, the crescent of his lips For the inmost sea of all the earth is shaken with his ships (going from memory that's what I recall lol)

      @elchudcampeador5642@elchudcampeador5642 Жыл бұрын
  • In my hometown there is a column commemorating the battle and the 2 galleys that my town provided.

    @Auriorium@Auriorium Жыл бұрын
  • This was even more epic than I expected! As a side note, it's nice to hear that the sources for once don't disagree greatly about the numbers of opposing forces. Just before this video I have finished watching a new one about the battle of Orsha in 1514 (a third one in the last couple of months, this time in Polish), and this is definitely a problem with that battle.

    @Artur_M.@Artur_M. Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video, guys! I'm generally not a fan of naval battles, but this one was so well done! One of your best videos yet. Keep on with the great job!

    @wismsgre@wismsgre Жыл бұрын
    • thanks! glad you enjoyed it nonetheless!

      @SandRhomanHistory@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
  • As a Spaniard I see one of the biggest victories of the Spanish Empire and the allied Italian States (Venezia !!!) in an english-speaking channel as nearly a miracle, so yeah, cool. With all due respect to the Ottomans/Turks that were formidable adversaries.

    @Balrog2005@Balrog2005 Жыл бұрын
    • @@navarrenavarre Hey, tu opinión de supernacionalista de barra de bar te la guardas y más que solo uso cosas de la Leyenda Negra que no sé ni donde demonios sales con eso, si pongo que es un milagro que salga esta batalle en una canal en inglés, a ver si ¡¡LEEMOS!!. No pareces haber entendido nada de lo que puse ni sabes nada de lo que sé, me he limitado a alabar el video y los enemigos de la Liga, que eran formidables en cuento a asuntos militares, decir lo contrario es una tontería grosera. En la vida no cuesta nada ser respetuoso y leer al menos dos veces algo si lo has entendido mal. Now in english: Yes I'm sure the French will have gain a lot helping the Habsburg, mortal enemies since decades, against the Ottomans, so later the same Habsburgs could concentrate their forces and money against France to try to destroy it and there is the fact that they were in a religious civil war at that moment in the whole country, that's part of the ''Leyenda Negra'' or facts ? Same with the Protestant, that's classic real politik, while your enemy is occupied against another enemy, well don't do anything. As a said in Spanish the Ottomans of that period were a formidable military power wich made the Lepanto victory even more amazing for the Holy League, there is nothing wrong to respect that kind of enemy, even more 450 years later. Don't act as if it was some years ago...

      @Balrog2005@Balrog2005 Жыл бұрын
    • I am not Spanish but Spain was a powerhouse long after the defeat of the Armada by the English. It is an often forgotten fact. In addition, they were usually fighting on several frontiers (vs. the French, English, Dutch and Turks).

      @stefanvas6984@stefanvas6984 Жыл бұрын
    • @@stefanvas6984 Yes. The outcome of the Spanish Armada expedition was an unquestionable disaster with the key factor being bad weather. Spain remained as powerful as it was before the expedition. A year later, England attempted a similar action by creating the Contra Armada with Francis Drake and Norris ( 180 ships ) which was spectacularly destroyed by the remnants of the Spanish Armada ( 31 ships ). After the British defeat they could only be pirates as they were for centuries. Easy

      @javiervicedo4201@javiervicedo42019 ай бұрын
    • Yeah its kind of hard to find Spain getting any credit in english speaking channels

      @aguspuig6615@aguspuig66158 ай бұрын
    • @@aguspuig6615 Yes, it's kind of a general obsession during centuries. Reality will prevail and it will be difficult for them and for their followers.

      @javiervicedo4201@javiervicedo42018 ай бұрын
  • The great Don Juan of Austria lies on El Escorial in Madrid. It is a great thing to visit his tomb and greets his efforts for the cristiany as one of the last crusaders.

    @programatik7952@programatik7952 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video! Roger Crowley's book "Empires of the Sea" has a great section on Lepanto and the wider battle for the Mediterranean between the Ottomans and Europeans. The great European-Ottoman wars from 1453-1699 doesn't get nearly enough recognition when it comes to European history in my opinion, so thank you for this video!

    @USAR8888@USAR8888 Жыл бұрын
    • It goes further back from 1453, why 1453 ?

      @arda213@arda213 Жыл бұрын
    • Don't forget vietnam, Sometimes great empires can be defeated too

      @yakupdemir5016@yakupdemir5016 Жыл бұрын
    • "The fall of Constantinople,💒☧ of the year of fourteen hundred fifty-three by the Sultan,👳 Mehmed the 2nd, the conqueror himself in the year of fourteen hundred fifty-three, during the Hungarian,🇭🇺 Ottoman,🇹🇷 wars,💥 of the year of fourteen hundred sixty-two."

      @joeerickson516@joeerickson51611 ай бұрын
  • Very nice video. Really liked the point about the League removing the prows of their ships so that the cannons could have an unrestricted field of view. I have read that the Turks lost a large cadre of compound bowmen in this battle which they found hard to replace. Apparently, it takes years to train such men. I think that the League armed their sailors with matchlocks and crossbows that required little training.

    @cliffordjensen8725@cliffordjensen8725 Жыл бұрын
  • This was a Spanish battle, not German and less Austrian! John of Austria was the illegitimate son of the king of Spain, Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor. Charles V met his son only once, recognizing him in a codicil to his will. John became a military leader in the service of his half-brother, King Philip II of Spain, Charles V's heir, and is best known for his role as the admiral of the Holy League fleet at the Battle of Lepanto.

    @binalcensored2104@binalcensored21048 ай бұрын
    • El imperio español utilizaba soldados alemanes como mercenarios, también en Lepanto.

      @epifanias1@epifanias12 ай бұрын
  • The Ottomans went from regularly raiding across the Med to raiding one more time and never raiding again. They lost control of the Barbary Pirates, formerly their vassals, and never threatened the Med again as they had before the battle. They rebuilt their fleet, but it was never as good as the original. They never replaced the lost experience of the sailors who died at Lepanto. The modern concensus sees that the Ottomans built a new fleet and ignores that it was basically never used again. It's much more significant than is now imagined. The bravado of the Ottomans after the battle is just hot air.

    @charleslathrop9743@charleslathrop9743 Жыл бұрын
    • "Rebuild their fleet, but never as good as original" sounds ridiculous. The design shouldn't have change all that much, and most of their experienced sailors they loss won't stay active another 50 years anyway. The many wars after Lepanto should provide them with plenty of experience, so by itself this loss shouldn't have such huge effect for the empire's existence as a whole. Ignore the navy and never use it again? I'm no expert, but isn't the Cretan War that happen later is on an island? It's hard to believe that the Ottoman won't use any navy in it. I don't know about raiding since finding them is harder. Edit: change some , to .

      @Hell_O7@Hell_O7 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Hell_O7 The next fleet was slapped together to keep up appearances, no it wasn't as good, but that's not even what I was really talking about. Naval tradition and the experience of the sailors is HUGE. If you wipe out a generation of sailors you may easily find yourself in a position from which you can never fully recover, and the Ottomans provably didn't. Not only do you lose those sailors, but you also lose everyone they would have trained if they had lived. They raided across the Med with their entire fleet on a yearly basis. Then Lepanto. Then one more raid. Then literally never again. As for saying they didn't use their fleet again this is just hyperbole on my part. Yes they did, but never in the same way or to the same degree as they had previously. The Ottomans totally lost control of the Barbary Pirates who continued to be able sailors which the Ottomans lost access to. You picked out specific points that looked weak and you ignored the other things I said. I'm just repeating myself now. Hey, their annual raids across the med, previously unopposed which resulted in the capture of thousands of slaves and the obliteration of entire cities *stopped.* Hey, by the way, their annual raids stopped. This is a fact. Please explain it for me if Lepanto was not relevant. Also, don't know if I mentioned this, but the North African Barbary Pirates, previously made vassals of the Ottomans became defacto independent after Lepanto, and were never brought back into the Ottoman orbit. This is a fact. Please explain these things to me in the context of Lepanto's strategic insignificance. What do you think, the Ottomans lost control of the Barbary Pirates and stopped their annual raids and these two things just happened to coincide with the Battle of Lepanto by sheer coincidence?

      @charleslathrop9743@charleslathrop9743 Жыл бұрын
    • @@charleslathrop9743 If a point looks weak and you don't want it to be mentioned, then don't say it. If you forgot what you've said and then re-read them. Do I need to be thorough with every single crook of your statement? No, there's no such rule, and despite what you said even you ignore some of my points. The wars against the Safavid that happen again in 1578, which must've caused some resources to get shifted, seem to be a much bigger issue than any one battle could ever be. If the Barbary pirates continue their raids even without that much Ottoman's support, then why should they be that sad about it? It's still a win enough for them. The Ottoman-Venetian wars saw the Ottoman pushing back Venice repeatedly, weakening one of their biggest threat in the Mediterranean to a pretty significant degree. Conquest of Tunis help ensure that

      @Hell_O7@Hell_O7 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Hell_O7 The Ottomans were a threat to Venice, not the other way around

      @eugeniocallegaro6618@eugeniocallegaro6618 Жыл бұрын
    • @@eugeniocallegaro6618 The opposite is true too. Venice has been a powerful and influential mercantile sea power for a pretty long time, and not only play a vital role in many previous crusades but also directly butt heads with the Ottoman one of which is in 1453's Siege of Constantinople. The Ottoman-Venetian wars aimed to weaken them to the point of being irrelevant, which has not happened yet in 1571. Edit: remove double @, fix grammar, and add paragraph

      @Hell_O7@Hell_O7 Жыл бұрын
  • The fact that it was seen as a miracle made it that more powerfull. Also the defeats of the Ottoman Empire at Vienna (twice) showed that they were not invincible. Sometimes that is all that is needed. Imagine a united Europe throughout the middle ages.

    @janpost8598@janpost8598 Жыл бұрын
    • Impossible, didn't the allies attack their saviour sometime after the siege.

      @revis0nedrelived830@revis0nedrelived830 Жыл бұрын
    • There is no invincible empire.. Even the Mongols themselves had civil wars.. Losing battles until they disappeared

      @oldgamer9992@oldgamer9992 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@oldgamer9992 History, why did you lose after this battle?

      @user-cg2tw8pw7j@user-cg2tw8pw7j Жыл бұрын
    • There would have been a united europe in the middle ages had the barbarians decided not to settle in roman territories in mass in the 4th century

      @blushdog99@blushdog99 Жыл бұрын
    • You mean like worse than Hitler's united fascism. :))

      @codingstyle9480@codingstyle948010 ай бұрын
  • A very important factor is missing in the christian victory. Pretty much like the romans turned naval warfare into land battt with the corvus, where they can oppose their seasoned legions to much more experienced carthaginean sailors, the spanish tercios imposed their martial prowess boarding ottoman galleys when the ships interlocked and overcome the famous janissaries.

    @amacrad@amacrad Жыл бұрын
  • Another Lepanto video? Can never be enough Lepanto videos. Bring 'em on!

    @hemaccabe4292@hemaccabe4292 Жыл бұрын
  • One of your best videos IMO, the sound affects and animation, as well as powerful narration was amazing.

    @EDMmemories@EDMmemories Жыл бұрын
  • I've forgotten how long it was since I've been waiting for this video. But what mattered now is that the video is out and I enjoyed every single minute of it! Thank you!

    @lerneanlion@lerneanlion Жыл бұрын
    • thanks, glad you enjoyed it! we put a lot of work into this one.

      @SandRhomanHistory@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
    • @@SandRhomanHistory Usually, I am pro-Ottoman. But considering that the Ottoman Empire managed to rebuild its navy to dominate the Eastern Mediterranean again in just a few years after such defeat, I am willing to make an exception.

      @lerneanlion@lerneanlion Жыл бұрын
    • @@SandRhomanHistory And you half-assed it. How are you going to make a video on Lepanto and completely gloss over Spanish involvement??

      @Immigrantlovesamerica@Immigrantlovesamerica Жыл бұрын
    • It’s called “Leyenda Negra”.look it up sometime.

      @salvadormartin4203@salvadormartin4203 Жыл бұрын
  • My hometown is Nafpaktos aka Lepanto and still we celebrate this every year

    @kostasnikolettos1438@kostasnikolettos1438 Жыл бұрын
  • Another very interesting and well produced video. I always look forward to your work and have watched many several times.

    @davidfell9083@davidfell9083 Жыл бұрын
  • As a Spaniard I'm proud.

    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Жыл бұрын
    • Then revolt against the foreign occupying forces at Rota and Moron. The USA use Spain as a vassal state. It's a shame !!!

      @caniconcananas7687@caniconcananas7687 Жыл бұрын
    • that's weird. I am proud of my students, and of my well behaving dog. For example. Things I contributed to. I am HAPPY that my ancestors saved themselves many times in history (They made me possible), but I cannot be proud of things I played no role in, nor can I be proud of a random thing, for example being born in 1 nation and not in any other nation.

      @istvansipos9940@istvansipos9940 Жыл бұрын
    • @@istvansipos9940 Oh give it a rest. He feels empathy for the brave men, not unlike the one you feel for Ukraine's efforts today. These people happened to be related to him, so he calls it "pride". But I'm sure he's equally "proud" of the Roman+Gothic coalition beating Attila the Hun, for instance. It's just an inspiring piece of history that happens to be related to your country; thus, he calls it "pride" instead of mere "empathy".

      @DudeWatIsThis@DudeWatIsThis Жыл бұрын
    • @István Sipos Pride: a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired. Why cant he admire the bravery of his countrymen in the face of danger?

      @Dan-lu5qd@Dan-lu5qd Жыл бұрын
    • @@istvansipos9940 👏👏👏

      @caniconcananas7687@caniconcananas7687 Жыл бұрын
  • You forgot to mention that Miguel de Cervantes fought here

    @TandemSix@TandemSix Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone because it's Cervantes. He went there, fought as well as he could having fever, got shot 3x, survived, eventually got home and wrote the best novel in the Spanish language

      @TandemSix@TandemSix11 ай бұрын
  • Funny fact: Colonna family is still alive and doing stuff around. They are probably the most ancient family of Italy. It was said they descend directly from Julius Caesar.

    @danielefabbro822@danielefabbro822 Жыл бұрын
    • the family of Don Juan d'Austria is also still around. One of his daughters married a Colonna and the Colonnas later inherited all the private property of Don Juan, since his other daughter became a nun and had no offspring.

      @ekesandras1481@ekesandras1481 Жыл бұрын
  • Modern historians often forget to mention what would have happened if the result of such a battle would be the opposite. Maybe they wouldn't be able to do, as this would have been opened the path to Italy and Venice itself. Hard to estimate the consequences

    @klaussobel5259@klaussobel52599 ай бұрын
    • What if =/= History But the idea is interesting !

      @krixpop@krixpop8 ай бұрын
  • finally! I've been interested in your take on this for awhile.

    @clintmoor422@clintmoor422 Жыл бұрын
  • I recommend visiting the maritime museums of barcelona and genoa, they both have galley replicas in them and they are amazing

    @otavio8566@otavio8566 Жыл бұрын
  • As a Turk, here is how we are taught about this in school: After the peak of military might of the empire 30-40 years ago, political intrigues were also peaked and in time the empire started to get governed by less and less skilled people. In the past centuries, most military leaders took command by leading and rising from the lower ranks in the army. Now, the leaders were simply "appointed" by the higher authority. The admiral of the ottoman empire in this battle was no different. Admiral, Müezzinzade Ali Pasha was a royal son in law (married to one of the children of the sultan) and did not know much about naval warfare. So much so that even the ottoman chronicles describe his death as: "Caused the death of lots of valuable captains and seaman due to his inexperience in naval affairs" He was a valuable general and a statesman, but not a seaman and definitely not an admiral. Barbarossa, merely 30 years ago, had defeated the holy league near prevaza. Now, 3 decades later, Barbarossas own sons being captains themselves, they all got killed in this battle by the very things they had used against the holy league 30 years ago. 30 years ago, ottoman ships had cannons with higher range - much more skilled and experienced captains on all flanks and they had simply waited for right wind movements before manuevering in bulk - a concept Müezzinzade Ali Pasha knew very little about. Vizier, Sokullu, was right when he said the holy league merely shaved the beard of the ottoman empire - but he was not taking the loss of experienced captains and seaman into account. Turks, being nomads themselves, could not raise this amount of skilled seaman ever again in history. They rebuilt the lost ships, but could not use them to dominate the waters again. This general concept of unskilled governors and leaders still exists in todays turkish hierarchy. People are mostly appointed to positions of power depending on who they know / who they are related with instead of pure skill and merit

    @thegraybeards2568@thegraybeards2568 Жыл бұрын
    • my professor once said - we don't know if the Ottomans corrupted the Balkans, or the Balkans corrupted the Ottomans :)))

      @XcT27@XcT27 Жыл бұрын
    • Infact, what made the Ottoman fleets fearsome in the previous decades was the strict meritocracy, where even a slave at the roar could become an Admiral (It was the case of Uluç Ali Paşa, "Occhiali", at Lepanto) only for his achievements. The commanders of the Genoese and Venetian fleets were generally competent, but they were strictly from one of the notable families of the city, so the pool was much more restricted. It has to be said that, at Lepanto, both the general commanders didn't do much, since at the center of the battle the ships were so packed that manuvering was impossible. The battle was won and lost by the commanders of the two wings.

      @neutronalchemist3241@neutronalchemist3241 Жыл бұрын
    • When you say Turks, you mean Greeks actually. A recently preformed study found the dominate DNA in Turkey is Greek.

      @thomaswayneward@thomaswayneward Жыл бұрын
    • @@thomaswayneward Lol if there is such a work can you show us? Because I don't think even the Greeks have "Greek DNA".

      @Sadoyasturadoglu@Sadoyasturadoglu Жыл бұрын
    • @@neutronalchemist3241 Disagree, the two Ottoman wing commanders did an outstanding job, and on the Christian side only Barbarigo shone in the wings, as Doria was mediocre at best. The Holy League won because of superior firepower, superior numbers, Turkish overconfidence (they should have waited in the harbor and wait one week until the League disintegrates) and a bit of luck.

      @alvaromartinez8209@alvaromartinez8209 Жыл бұрын
  • Müezzinzade Ali Pasha was the commander of the janissary land forces. He showed great success in many wars such as the Battle of Zigetvar. He was on good terms with the Sultan. Sultan Selim II loved her and married her to his daughter. later made Admiral. He was an ambitious and brave commander. His soldiers loved him. But he was not a Navy officer. His greatest achievement as a sailor was raiding port cities and landing troops on the shore. Uluç Ali Reis and Pertev Pasha argued that they should not leave the bay and that the crusader fleet should be withdrawn to the bay. Thus, land artillery support would be provided. Ottoman ships were damaged from the last voyage and needed to be maintained. Those in the Crusader navy were thinking, "If the Turks took refuge in the Gulf of Lepanto, the expedition was over, all the expenses were wasted. It is not possible to force the terrible passage of the Bosphorus with galleys. The Christian navy will be destroyed by the artillery fire of the two castles." But Admiral Muezzinzade Ali Pasha did not accept. He found it cowardly. He underestimated the enemy. As in land wars, he wanted to disperse the enemy with a swift attack and bore the ships. After this defeat, the Ottoman Turks built another navy of the same size within a year. The westerners were astonished, they did not dare to advance to the eastern Mediterranean. But the new navy was hastily made and the ships were not as solid as they should have been. Most of the master sailors and pirates died or were taken prisoner. There were novices left who could not even sail. The reason for this defeat was that he was made an admiral because he was the son-in-law of the Sultan, he was incompetent and did not listen to the warnings of his subordinates. Both warring groups had problems. But the crusader fleet overcame them.

    @sersipahi@sersipahi Жыл бұрын
    • Same thing happened in the Siege against the Knights ot Saint John. The wrong leader got into power.

      @Giagantus@Giagantus7 ай бұрын
    • @@Giagantus Yes. People are preparing their own end through arrogance or ignorance. Sometimes this changes a whole history. Wrong time, wrong people. That's why we remember real heroes with respect.

      @sersipahi@sersipahi7 ай бұрын
  • 5:18 : Don Juan, no Don "John"

    @marechaldepeteteiii3312@marechaldepeteteiii3312 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing !!! Please a vídeo of the siege of castelnouvo, oran mazalquivir and Tunez

    @arturobermudez6277@arturobermudez6277 Жыл бұрын
    • castelnuovo is ottmans vs spanish as well!

      @clintmoor422@clintmoor422 Жыл бұрын
  • Waited Two weeks for this! Awesome!

    @swordsmen8856@swordsmen8856 Жыл бұрын
  • really good. really good writing and historical summaries. very listenable delivery style.

    @fieldcrow52@fieldcrow52 Жыл бұрын
  • Don John of Austria sounds silly. He is Don Juan de Austria.

    @SergioRPerez@SergioRPerez9 ай бұрын
  • I'm not surprised people started to move away from Galleys after this; those casualties are staggering. Those waters around Greece took a lot of men to Poseidon's cold embrace. Salamis, Artemisium, and Lepanto.

    @TheWildManEnkidu@TheWildManEnkidu Жыл бұрын
    • Well, the focus of sailing was displaced by the Spanish from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic and the Pacific, where galleys were pretty much useless, and I imagine the futher development of naval artillery made the kind of hand to hand combat galleys were used for obsolete.

      @higochumbo8932@higochumbo8932 Жыл бұрын
    • Actium

      @asmrnaturecat984@asmrnaturecat984 Жыл бұрын
    • Spanish losses against the Dutch rebels played a major role in that to. At the Battle of the Scheldt in 1574 for example. A Spanish commander who was also present at Lepanto wrote that the fighting there was just as savage.

      @5thMilitia@5thMilitia Жыл бұрын
    • Don't forget Actium and a whole lot other naval battles that are not known outside of Greek history!

      @arcotroll8530@arcotroll8530 Жыл бұрын
    • @@arcotroll8530 the battle of actium is not known? ehh... i wouldn't agree

      @Toshiro_Mifune@Toshiro_Mifune Жыл бұрын
  • i can't understand how people are diminishing the strategic importance of lepanto, yes the holy league did poorly in exploiting the victory and using the following period of relative naval dominance to achieve more victorys etc, but it was a strategic victory and broke the ottoman dominance, and also marked the shift towards more firepower in european, the ottomans basicly had to learn that they could no pursue large scale naval operations in the adria and central mediterranean sea without european powers succesfully reacting anymore also to say "they just won bc of superior firepower" is like saying a machine gun just shoots faster than a rifle. it was a great victory for the european powers, and it was such a breakthrough that they felt much less threatened after wards and the 17th century then told that story again, where the ottomans could only expand into the much less developed eastern parts of europea via raids even tho much of central europe was locked into a series of civil wars, and the ottomans had to basicly watch and mainly stay out bc any attempt of attacking into the west could basicly make this religious strife end as people might see a common thread. basicly at lepanto, the ottomans shattered their teeth, they had cracked and the sultans from then new that using them without thinking strategically and clearly would make them fell out. when they attempted the second siege of vienna, that was a last ditch attempt at relevancy on the global stage. even if vienna had fallen there were armys on the way to recapture it. and it would likely have been retaken in time. european army size in the meantime had increased coordination discipline and firepower were outdoing ottomans by far, and european fleets were composed of high board artillery platforms that carried the worth of entire fortresses on their decks. while europe was beating each other over the head who would control which part of the globe, any outside power seriously threatening the great powers of europe would basicly kicking the hornets nest, and what happened after the second siege of vienna was that. bamely austria would roll back the sucesses the ottoman had achieved over 2-3 centurys in much fewer time.

    @patriciusvunkempen102@patriciusvunkempen102 Жыл бұрын
    • It seems like it is a lot like the Battle of Midway. It stopped the Ottoman advance and was a turning point but eventually the European Powers would have beat the Ottomans anyways similar to USA and Japan. Ottomans had no ability to counter future Naval Ships coming on line in the West like the Spanish Galleon. By 1600, Ottoman Naval Superiority would have been in check either way with the changing technology. Similar to how the Japanese Navy would have eventually been overwhelmed by USA naval production regardless of the situation at Midway. It would have just taken longer to see the flip in both cases had these critical battles not have been won and perhaps the Ottos would have threatened Italy and taken Malta had they won at Lepanto (for a time).

      @volbound1700@volbound1700 Жыл бұрын
    • Modern historians are haters of western civilization. Whenever i see "modern historians disagree" i think of how subverted academia is these days.

      @ArtilleryAffictionado1648@ArtilleryAffictionado1648 Жыл бұрын
    • There was no way on Earth Ottoman could keep dominating mediterranean against huge coalition of a dozen European countries and empires. So Lepanto didn't mean much when they didn't capitalize afterwards. Then once again you are completely ignoring Ottoman overextended thousands of miles in THREE continents and somehow tie it's huge list of problems to naval weakness alone. In reality Ottoman was doomed as soon as the line of extraordinary sultans ended with Suleiman magnificent. Suleiman never had any intention keeping Vienna, in fact he pushed far deeper than the city but when Habsburgs couldn't face him in a pitched battle he turned back and sieged Vienna. His whole intention was defeating Habsburgs significantly so they would drop their claims on Hungary therefore securing western borders. Why is that exactly, right? Vienna is 1300 km away from Constantinople and Ottoman armies had to travel that distance through underdeveloped Balkans with poor roads and bridges. They couldn't even provide enough supplies for the armies, in fact often more soldiers were dying on the road than actual battles!! If Ottoman could use mediterranean freely like Romans did they could invade deeper into Europe but Ottoman didn't have a short list of rivals like Roman empire had...

      @ggoddkkiller1342@ggoddkkiller1342 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ggoddkkiller1342 i do not say that the naval failure is the reason for the stagnation and decline, its more of the symptom breakin out, i think we completely agree

      @patriciusvunkempen102@patriciusvunkempen102 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ggoddkkiller1342 also funny enough the balkans are likely so underdeveloped bc the ottomans extracted the majority of their tax income /tributes from that region to finance the rest of their empire. also the fact that the europeans just sailed around their empire for far trading likely hurt them so they had to extract more from the balkans, which means that wealth could not be reinvested in the balkans.

      @patriciusvunkempen102@patriciusvunkempen102 Жыл бұрын
  • Shockingly, no one has done the battle of Djerba yet, despite it being of the same scale and significance as Lepanto and Preveza. Eger and Nagykaniszia are also ideas.

    @thebeylikofosman5474@thebeylikofosman5474 Жыл бұрын
    • This channel specifically focuses on Ottoman defeats. He only covered 1453.

      @arda213@arda213 Жыл бұрын
    • Konu Türk tarihi olunca gerçekten subjektif video yapıyorlar

      @salihylmaz3076@salihylmaz3076 Жыл бұрын
    • Because Lepanto was the last battle of all of these? The decisive one? After Lepanto no more battles of that scale were fought in the Med.

      @acusticamenteconvusional9936@acusticamenteconvusional9936 Жыл бұрын
    • @@acusticamenteconvusional9936 Wow, by this logic we should only focus on the cold war since both Spain and Turkey are in Nato and they build LHD warships together. No reason to focus on Battle of Lepanto. Idiot.

      @arda213@arda213 Жыл бұрын
    • @@arda213 ??? Does that make any sense? He covered Famagusta and Candia. Why would it make any sense for him to only cover Ottoman defeats??

      @thebeylikofosman5474@thebeylikofosman5474 Жыл бұрын
  • Im not an expert so i accept that i could totally be wrong, but i get the feeling that Spanish participation in this battle is being underplayed alot. Its in general kind of hard to find any video on medieval history that gives credit to Spain on pretty much anyhting

    @aguspuig6615@aguspuig66158 ай бұрын
    • It's overplayed if anything, Spaniards comprised a minority of the troops (ca 3-4000 over 30000) and ships (26 over 212). Only Spanish ultranationalists believe the fleet and soldiers were 99% Spanish tbh

      @SockAccount111@SockAccount1118 ай бұрын
    • @@SockAccount111: Wrong. It was over 7000 and to that you have to count bought mercenaries from Germany (7000) and Italy (6000) as well as 5000 venetians. Point still stands.

      @david9243@david92435 ай бұрын
    • @@david9243 Of these 7000, only 3-4000 were actual Spaniards, the rest being Italians serving under the Spanish crown

      @SockAccount111@SockAccount1114 ай бұрын
  • A beard grows back even stronger indeed, problem is that by that time the Ottoman Empire was already beginning to show small signs of hair loss

    @yibithehispanic@yibithehispanic Жыл бұрын
    • Good! Napoleon should of wiped them out

      @ak9989@ak9989 Жыл бұрын
    • good one

      @crimsonlightbinder@crimsonlightbinder Жыл бұрын
    • They were practically balding.

      @kingofcards9516@kingofcards9516 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kingofcards9516 No they began balding at the second siege of Vienna

      @yibithehispanic@yibithehispanic Жыл бұрын
    • After that battle they defeat spanish in tunis

      @A_Shanto@A_Shanto Жыл бұрын
  • A point to remember would be that the ottomans fleet was in need of repair after a long season of raiding and small skirmishes (which is why they had low manpower and less cannons) and even tho the win was a huge boost in morale for the league as far as the ottomans were concerned the major loss was the loss of able and experienced seamen other than that it continued as business as usual for the ottomans

    @tomasmunkils7287@tomasmunkils7287 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video! You guys are really improving by the video

    @EnRandomSten@EnRandomSten Жыл бұрын
    • thanks, yeah we're trying to push ourselves!

      @SandRhomanHistory@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome history, keep up the great documentaries!

    @bigsarge2085@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
  • I as a Cypriot must tell you that you forgot the most important thing after the victory all the soldiers and sailors rhythmically shouted the name of the great hero of Famagusta Marco Antonio bragantino

    @georgepanayi36@georgepanayi3611 ай бұрын
  • Naval battles before the age of sail sound absolutely insane.

    @Pentagathusosaurus@Pentagathusosaurus Жыл бұрын
    • does is sound more sane during the age of sail?😅

      @crimsonlightbinder@crimsonlightbinder Жыл бұрын
    • This happened during the age of sail tho. Lepanto was probably the last naval battle fought "medieval style"

      @Phantom-xp2co@Phantom-xp2co Жыл бұрын
    • Naturally they had to go away as cannons became stronger. TBH, age of sail is the most exciting period. Most medieval naval battles are just land fighting on the sea.

      @Dayvit78@Dayvit78 Жыл бұрын
    • Sailing ships had been already used for decades in battles fought in the Atlantic, but in the Med., at that time, they were still a burden, because there the winds were much more inconstant. The use of Galleons had been one of the main causes of the defeat of the Holy League at Preveza in 1538.

      @neutronalchemist3241@neutronalchemist3241 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@neutronalchemist3241 No Khosrow After this battle, it seems that the Spaniards are stupid

      @user-cg2tw8pw7j@user-cg2tw8pw7j Жыл бұрын
  • Including a glass breaking sound when units are destroyed would bring me immeasurable pleasure.

    @phillylove7290@phillylove7290 Жыл бұрын
  • dude, your videos are truly a 10/10

    @stijnottersberg6460@stijnottersberg6460 Жыл бұрын
  • My father was born in a house next to Juan de Austria's house in Cuacos de Yuste, Spain, it's also the place when Carlos V retired to a monastery until he died. Funny thing, until this day the people of that village are called ``Los perdonados´´, the forgiven, because there is a popular story that, when Juan de Austria was just a child, other children in the village threw stones at him and hurted him (maybe for being a bastard) and Carlos V didn't take any punishment to them.

    @alfonsocaballero3630@alfonsocaballero3630 Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone I know, I didn't say It was true, it's just a funny story that they tell even today.

      @alfonsocaballero3630@alfonsocaballero3630 Жыл бұрын
  • It never ceases to amaze me how cruel the Ottomans were

    @justdoinmything@justdoinmything Жыл бұрын
    • That's why they were winning. When in Europe soldiers knew about basic ethics of war (mot kill civillians, for example), turks could just wipe out entire city, burn all the citizens and just go after the next one. And they never changed, few hundred years after this they commited three biggest genocides before finally fading away

      @user-kq1fi5nz8d@user-kq1fi5nz8d Жыл бұрын
    • I think people in general can be very cruel to other people,I mean look for example Caesar's campaign in Gaul or the two world war's,or,most recently ,Putin's invasion of Ukraine,I can name many more examples.Unfortunately this has continued throughout human history to this day.

      @bayramaktas4135@bayramaktas4135 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for your video it's a real treat to watch after a hard day at work :)

    @B4IRUTUARU16@B4IRUTUARU16 Жыл бұрын
    • Our pleasure!

      @SandRhomanHistory@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
  • Yay, one of my favorite channels does one of my favorite battles.

    @yanalbertoagudelo9687@yanalbertoagudelo9687 Жыл бұрын
  • The Holy Rosary is a powerful weapon!

    @alswann2702@alswann2702 Жыл бұрын
    • This war had nothing to do with religion

      @samsonsoturian6013@samsonsoturian6013 Жыл бұрын
    • @nofux8586 the Ottoman's religious composition varied with the decades

      @samsonsoturian6013@samsonsoturian6013 Жыл бұрын
    • @@samsonsoturian6013 Brainlet take

      @bruhbruh-us6gl@bruhbruh-us6gl Жыл бұрын
    • sure. That's why nobody can define (in a reasonable way and with n0 assertions) what the word "holy" even means.

      @istvansipos9940@istvansipos9940 Жыл бұрын
    • @@istvansipos9940 Maybe, but they sure can define what weapon means

      @bruhbruh-us6gl@bruhbruh-us6gl Жыл бұрын
  • I have WAITED for this

    @Fastwinstondoom@Fastwinstondoom Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant work

    @stefansimonovic9747@stefansimonovic9747 Жыл бұрын
  • Love the art style great vid

    @kyledavidson8712@kyledavidson8712 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you! Cheers!

      @SandRhomanHistory@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
  • One of my favorite battles.

    @conradnelson5283@conradnelson5283 Жыл бұрын
  • If only the Grand Vizier saw how the tables will turn a century later with that arm and beard quote.

    @napoleonibonaparte7198@napoleonibonaparte7198 Жыл бұрын
    • No empire lasts forever. His words were true for his era.

      @arda213@arda213 Жыл бұрын
  • An unbelievable video. Thank You what an epic.

    @9and7@9and7 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Love your animations!!

    @sarahsidney1988@sarahsidney1988 Жыл бұрын
  • People don’t understand how close the Ottomans were to conquering much more of Europe (they already conquered a lot of it.) This, the great siege of Malta, and other few victories kept Europe from facing conquest and enslavement.

    @Quincy_Morris@Quincy_Morris10 ай бұрын
    • The Ottomans were the Islamic continuation of the Roman Empire. They managed to regain everything but Italy snd Hispania and not for lack of effort.

      @NormanF62@NormanF628 ай бұрын
  • I would advice you to take a look at Siege of Nagykanizsa 1601, as it is probably the most succesfull and perfect siege defense in history, it would be a great content for your amazing channel

    @oguzkaganonder1331@oguzkaganonder1331 Жыл бұрын
  • Subscribed right way , the best history narrative ever seen

    @bharathr3759@bharathr3759 Жыл бұрын
  • Incredible. Thank you!

    @guineveregruntle6746@guineveregruntle6746 Жыл бұрын
  • Everyone do yourselves a huge favor and read "The Great Siege: Malta 1565" buy Ernle Bradford. The most incredible book on the subject Ive ever read. The valor of the forlorn men in the chapter on the fall of St. Elmo had me on the brink of tears. Amazing.

    @cartesian_doubt6230@cartesian_doubt6230 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for your recommendation, I will keep this book in mind

      @janetlima4337@janetlima4337 Жыл бұрын
    • Great book

      @aurelian869@aurelian869 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for the recommendation.

      @VRichardsn@VRichardsn Жыл бұрын
    • How true!! The Siege of Malta in 1565 was probably the first major setback for the Ottomans. The Knights of St. John and the Maltese inhabitants performed miracles in keeping the Ottoman Empire away from victory in Malta. It was a great humiliation for the Ottomans to retreat from Malta not as victors but as defeated. I fully agree that Ernle Bradford's masterpiece "Great Siege: Malta 1565 (Wordsworth Military Library) deserve more publicity.

      @joefenech4780@joefenech47807 ай бұрын
  • The island of Cyprus is also where the Knights Templars had their archives from their time in the Holy Land. All of which was destroyed by the Ottoman invaders. We can only imagine the historical knowledge that was lost.

    @wolfu597@wolfu597 Жыл бұрын
  • Very nice video! thank you for the great content.

    @shepi9453@shepi9453 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow! We have to see this hellish carnage of glorious valour on film! Hasn't anyone made this battle into an epic war movie yet!!

    @flamezealous@flamezealous10 ай бұрын
  • Glorious and great victory.

    @kingofcards9516@kingofcards9516 Жыл бұрын
  • With the amount of quarreling the leaders of the Holy League did it's no small miracle that they were able to accomplish anything at all.

    @brokenbridge6316@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. I appreciate your accuracy and abstaining from putting a Revisionist History spin on the story. What does the EP mean in your logo ?

    @texasRoofDoctor@texasRoofDoctor Жыл бұрын
  • I just noticed how your videos Malta 1570, Cyprus 1571, lepanto 1571,and candia, 16??, have these characters 😂

    @Mr_St_Lazarus-1099@Mr_St_Lazarus-10998 ай бұрын
  • Lepanto obviously changed the power balance in the mediterranean and allowed phillip II to focus his energy elsewhere

    @Theodosius_fan@Theodosius_fan11 ай бұрын
  • This video about the battle of Lepanto is great, one of your best works; the fact that it took place on the Greek coasts like many of the great naval battles of antiquity, gives it an epic aura, as if the Greek coalition against the Persians at Salamis was revived, for the survival of the West. In the end you skipped some important information, such as mentioning Álvaro de Bazán and indicating the importance of his role as commander of the reserve in the Christian rearguard, being able to successfully assist the flanks and the center, to avoid any Turkish advantage (He is for me the best admiral in Spanish history, although world historiography does not give him the value he deserves, with his command the Hispanic fleet achieved great victories such as the conquest of Portugal and the aid to the siege of Oran in 1563), another fact is that the writer Miguel de Cervantes fought in this battle and was left with an arm disabled, it is also said that this battle was where the beret so characteristic of sailors was used for the first time by Christian sailors. On the other hand, something that seems exaggerated to me is what is said about the contribution of the Venetian Galleasses, I think that the fact that they destroyed 70 by themselves is an invention of Italian historiography (they may have destroyed 15 or 20 and disabled some how many more), it is true that they played a great role, but it was above all to disrupt the Turkish formation that was forced to maneuver to avoid them (which is why 70 is an exaggerated number), actually the most decisive decision that influenced the Juan de Austria's victory was to fill all the ships with the elite Spanish infantry, the so-called "Tercios de Mar" (the first Marine Corps in history), since they carried the weight of combat on the ships of the Holy League.

    @IsaacRaiCastillo@IsaacRaiCastillo Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone Yes, it's true, although I was referring to the primary sources, because I don't think the mentioned historian got that information out of nothing. That is why I point to the Italian accounts of the battle, because although the Venetians may have exaggerated their merits in victory, I am sure that the Italian nationalist historiography of the 19th and early 20th centuries could have had something to do with a perspective more favorable to them. I know from what I have seen in other conflicts that Spanish sources tend to be omitted or ignored in favor of others, as may be the case with this naval battle (despite the fact that this video showed a mostly neutral view).

      @IsaacRaiCastillo@IsaacRaiCastillo Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone In every comment that laments the lack of mention of the Spanish role in this video, you show up mocking them and spaniards, whats your problem?

      @Dan-lu5qd@Dan-lu5qd Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone you say you have no problem, yet you're generalising all Spaniards and diminishing the role of Spaniards in this battle for no reason. Its quite obvious you have something against them.

      @Dan-lu5qd@Dan-lu5qd Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone what video?

      @Dan-lu5qd@Dan-lu5qd Жыл бұрын
    • See “Leyenda Negra “ for your answer.

      @salvadormartin4203@salvadormartin4203 Жыл бұрын
  • Love your voice very much and animation is good. Can you please cover battle of previza and djerba next and dadanails 1654-1657

    @mdmiloy5897@mdmiloy5897 Жыл бұрын
  • I like that your some of the Sponsor Ad is done in the style of the video 😃👍

    @JohnDoe-tx8lq@JohnDoe-tx8lq Жыл бұрын
  • Make video about Preveza too👀

    @papazataklaattiranimam@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
    • Common, you can’t resist that gaze

      @mariushunger8755@mariushunger8755 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Letnistonwandif never read a book of history ...i see

      @olivercromwell432@olivercromwell432 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Letnistonwandif preveza was a hug butt kick ever Europe face in entire history

      @johnsantini3382@johnsantini3382 Жыл бұрын
  • One thing is that the Ottomans rebuilt their fleet after but it cost so much money they had to mothball much of it and helped wreck their economy. Along with the Gold from South America the Spanish were able to stabilise the Economics of the Holy League and make the battle of Lepanto happen.

    @handlesrstupid123@handlesrstupid123 Жыл бұрын
    • I thought Spanish's gold import make the economy unstable since there's just so much of it that they decrease value

      @Hell_O7@Hell_O7 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Hell_O7 its money coming in when your spending alot on wars, more doesnt destabilize anything just dropa the price of gold down

      @handlesrstupid123@handlesrstupid123 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Hell_O7 Eventually, but a quick infusion of cash is good in the short term.

      @shorewall@shorewall Жыл бұрын
    • @@gundissalinus thanks did not know that

      @handlesrstupid123@handlesrstupid123 Жыл бұрын
    • No actually it wasn’t the case, the real damage to ottomans was the loss of experienced sea men which they couldn’t replace

      @aydnmesuttorun8397@aydnmesuttorun8397 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video! However, you should have talked about don Alvaro de Bazan, the commander of the Christian reserve and how he managed to save part of the centre (not Doria)

    @chiquitokaiba4072@chiquitokaiba4072 Жыл бұрын
    • And the left, and the right.

      @higochumbo8932@higochumbo8932 Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone Literally this. There is a reason why Bazan is consider one of the greatest admirals of all times.

      @claudiotavares9580@claudiotavares9580 Жыл бұрын
    • @@claudiotavares9580 First time dealing with sarcasm huh?

      @dariusgreysun@dariusgreysun Жыл бұрын
    • @William Ewart Gladstone It's actually entirely possible, since he was the one who countered the two critical Ottoman maneuvers that could have turned the tide of the battle (Sirocco's flanking attempt and Uluj Ali's pounce on the gap left in the Christian right wing).

      @higochumbo8932@higochumbo8932 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dariusgreysun 🤓

      @claudiotavares9580@claudiotavares9580 Жыл бұрын
  • Very well made. Have enjoy it. 💯

    @thehturt5480@thehturt5480 Жыл бұрын
  • excellent video

    @ExperiencePlayers@ExperiencePlayers Жыл бұрын
    • thanks!

      @SandRhomanHistory@SandRhomanHistory Жыл бұрын
  • Thank goodness for Lepanto.

    @JonWintersGold@JonWintersGold Жыл бұрын
  • Wasn‘t this the battle in which don quixote lost an arm?

    @mariushunger8755@mariushunger8755 Жыл бұрын
    • this is the battle where peter pan was saved by the Gandalf!

      @clintmoor422@clintmoor422 Жыл бұрын
    • @@clintmoor422 don't be so ridiculous it was clearly where aslan roared them to victory

      @hod2116@hod2116 Жыл бұрын
    • Hi :), this is the battle where the writter of el quijote lost a hand. He's called in spanish the Lepanto's one-armed

      @nestorfernandezmichelena9156@nestorfernandezmichelena9156 Жыл бұрын
    • It was Miguel de Cervantes,so the writer

      @jesusrodrigo9955@jesusrodrigo9955 Жыл бұрын
    • He lost an arm and was captured by the Ottomans in the way back to Spain, spending 5 years of captivity in Algiers and being almost sent to Constantinope due to his constant scape attempts.

      @higochumbo8932@higochumbo8932 Жыл бұрын
  • Legend has it that , that hand gesture of that Italian sailor is still in use nowadays…. Albeit Sandroman should definitely define the « gatso « meaning of it… 😂

    @srj607able@srj607able Жыл бұрын
  • If you will ever upload the battle of Djerba could you also cover the raid of Uluc Alì in Liguria after that?

    @sp1d3rm0nk3y33@sp1d3rm0nk3y33 Жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic video about a great battle Our Lady of Victory, pray for us!

    @XtoDoubt25@XtoDoubt25 Жыл бұрын
    • Gloria tibi Domini!

      @haikuhermit2477@haikuhermit2477 Жыл бұрын
  • You pronoun really good Spanish/Italian words, the battle of Lepanto was a decisive victory for the future of Europe like the battle of Platea, battle of Navas de Tolosa. This battle save Europe and save the future of all European nations

    @9anticule@9anticule Жыл бұрын
    • Pronounce*

      @9anticule@9anticule Жыл бұрын
  • Oh wow I love it. Haha. Makes history more enjoyable to see things like you presented.

    @lucystephanieproperties@lucystephanieproperties3 ай бұрын
  • 22:58 'y-yeah youve completely destroyed our navi and two of our most experienced irreplaceable admirals but technically we won :3' damn the damage control, 70 sunk before engagement

    @diwajerebation4077@diwajerebation4077 Жыл бұрын
    • Ottomans smoking that copium.

      @kingofcards9516@kingofcards9516 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kingofcards9516 Damn. Copium is real.

      @jimmyorgenkaccrow4961@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961 Жыл бұрын
    • Victory needs to be exploited

      @Hell_O7@Hell_O7 Жыл бұрын
  • Proud of my Italian ancestors.

    @lucianf6440@lucianf6440 Жыл бұрын
  • great video!

    @claudiox2183@claudiox2183 Жыл бұрын
  • Its amazing that myth of cut hair growing back "stronger" (thicker?) goes back so long ago and perhaps even longer!

    @arrow1414@arrow1414 Жыл бұрын
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