How to Talk Like a Native Speaker | Marc Green | TEDxHeidelberg
2018 ж. 8 Қаң.
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Marc talked about the process of learning a foreign language and the different levels of fluency. He will show that there is a higher realm of language proficiency and explain what it takes to reach this “native” point where the benefits far surpass mere communication skills. Marc’s passion is the study of languages, their manifestation in local dialects, as well as their expression in poetry and folkloric song. He has acquired a near-native proficiency in six languages and their sub-forms and has given various musical performances. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
I'm tryng to improve my english by lestening to ted
Me too
Me too
me too
Go Annelise! I suggest you watch American movies too with your possibly favorite actors or about a place or adventure you can relate with. I'm not a native speaker but I'm also watching Ted to work my way to advanced level of fluency in English. 😊
Me too!!!!
Recording yourself while speaking it's also a way to check how you actually sound like and improve your pronunciation. Most of the time we think we sound pretty good... Until we hear our own voice 😁
damm :D :D ı dont wanna confess that stop ittttttttttttt
How de we improve our own voice?
キャンディス I guess about muscle memory. By listening to yourself, you will be able to notice the mistakes that you’re making while speaking
damn it so true
Yes I did that when I started learning English, it was horrible and couldn’t hear my voice, I still hate the way I talk ...
my english improved a lot, watching and listenig TED's
Ha me too
The same
Agree 👍🏻
Really?
Were you memorizing that words?
Areas to work to become a native speaker: 09:45 Eliminate your accent 11:22 Colloquial Speech 12:47 Adopting cultural traits 14:55 Immersion 15:43 Learn the lyrics of songs 16:05 Right mindset: Sound like a native Express yourself like a native Act like a native 16:27 Main thing - work on your pronunciation!
It's so hard to forget our accent, especially When you start to grow
the hero we need
you forgot this: marry an English speaker..!
Thanks. Because he goes up and then low his voice I can barely understand him.
what is the accent in this context?
English is my fifth language which i am learning. And I can tell you the best way to improve your comprehension of any language is listening videos more and more and then try to imitate the sounds.
And lot a reading to fix fast
Your English is great 👍
I sometimes wonder,what you feel like when you can speak 5 language.. Does it confusing.. Im interested to learn arabic you know.. But just by hearing,i dont think i can learn that..
Thank you
@@khairulazmibadrudin8692 Arabic is so interested language..
Linguist here. Native fluency and master level are different concepts. For European languages, there is a scale from A1 to A2, B1, B2, C1 and finally C2. They represent different levels of speaking areas and skills, being A1 the basic fluency and C2 the academic one. A native speaker tends to be around B2 or C1, whilst the educated person (who has a bachelor degree, for instance) will probably speak a more sophisticated level of that language, which would be C2. Pronunciation is also different from accent. They are both connected, but having an accent doesn't make you worse speaker than a native person, on the contrary, it just shows one speaks other languages. The main point is if having an accent makes the other person confused or lead to misunderstandings, then you must correct it. I agree with the other points he said. Exposure to the language is very important: read, write, listen and speak as most as you can. That's the only way to be really fluent.
Hi Daniel - yeah the whole 'native speaker' vs 'mastery' thing gets confused a lot. I certainly know a lot of my fellow native English speakers who have absolutely not mastered English and would struggle in undergraduate programs or even final year of high school. I am not sure I know very MANY native speakers who are only B2... that's pretty low. C1 definitely, but B2, it'd be maybe 3 in 100 who didn't go further than that in their native language.
Language teacher here: Native speakers are NOT at B2, they are generally C2, perhaps only C1 in some cases.
@@stefanhansen5882 - It depends how it's measured. For spoken fluency, yes, native speakers would almost always be super high. But I know plenty of native speakers who struggle to read prose that is written for adults, e.g. a novel. In other words, their reading is at B2. I know a FEW (not many) who would score B2 on the OOPT, and I think I know quite a few who would only score C1. I think it depends what language we're talking about though. English has an extremely wide range because there are so many speakers at different ends of the socio-economic spectrum. Norway on the other hand, wouldn't be home to many people who would fail a Norwegian test, because the education level is so high.
Well, I think what he tried to say has nothing to do with "having an accent makes you a worse speaker than a native person" What he said was that native speakers tend to (unconsciously) look differently at you if you don't have an accent. And yes, once again we all know that accents can be found in many different ways. Obviously what he tried to say is that in order to "be accepted" by native speakers (once again unconsciously) one shouldn't have an accent that tells that they don't belong to a certain country. For example, I'm from Brazil and we have MANY accents in here. It's a continental country. Even in my state, which is one of the smallest ones we have different kinds of accent. But I'd talk more freely and without thinking which words to use to a guy from the north of the country (I'm from the southern part of the country) knowing he's from the north cause of his accent than with a guy trying to speak Portuguese with a Japanese accent. We do have lots of communities here in Brazil. Italians and Japanese being the biggest ones. Thus, we come across many people who speak Portuguese with an accent that's not Brazilian. Specially in greater cities. I have a friend, she's Argentinian and when we go out together we tend to use easier vocabulary and we often don't overuse slang and idioms because she often feels confused or doesn't understand at all. What he said was very accurate and has nothing to do with being a better or worse speaker.
I couldn’t agree more. Legit advice here guys. Achieving C2 is far underestimated and no one really understands this, but in reality even native speakers have a hard time to get there through education and shaping a sophisticated personality for themselves, which in turn provides them with vast and complex expressions and vocabulary by the very nature of exposure to quality and diverse content. So the bottom line is don’t second-guess your hard work and try to stay on the progress.
To summarize, first is to work on your pronunciation (eliminate your accent with a native speaker); second is Colloquial Speech (you have to learn expressions and idioms used by native speakers); third is Cultural Traits (internalize cultural traits of people of a particular language). That's all))) hope it will help you to save your precious time...
Thanks, master. How can I eliminate my accent?
thanks
It's nice seeing it summoned like that , thank you :3
@@brerivera4541 repeat with a native teacher
you're russian, aren't you?)))))))))))
I am sure my fluency in English is improving a lot, I usually listen to Ted videos and also I practice my speaking by simulating English tests situations. I am going to try recording myself while I answer the task questions. And finally, after watching this video, I can conclude that we are the only ones that put or erase the limits to ourselves in learning a new language.
You did good job
Bien hecho! Soy un gringo and that was great!
Hi Diana, could share me the SIMULATOR TRANING, thanks
@@robertogonzalez2502 Hi, You could look for toefl speaking tests......from TST prep
Our accent is a part of our personality! I remember one of the British ladies told me, 'Larisa, do whatever you want to do with your English, but please do not change your accent. it is so beautiful.'
So,where are u from ?
depends on where you're from and how your accent sounds like. Native speakers react and behave differently toward different accents
i agree totally, a professor of me said the same thing: Your accent is you, dont change it...
Larisa is a common name in Russia) Maybe she is from Ukraine/Byelorussia
Полностью согласен!
This man is amazing for revealing the secrets of successful language learning. Thanks mate!
He left me without any words. Just an impressive and elegant speech! I wanna wish you all to reach the language level what you want!
I'm a 9 year old Vietnamese and speak fluent English. I learn at an English center called ILA and I'm in the highest class. So, I think I've flipped 60% of the cards.
Congratulations. And good luck with your KZhead channel!! 💚
I can confirm the accent thing. I worked on my mandarin accent a lot and when I speak to Chinese people, especially in my own country, they are really happy and friendly towards me, even giving me discounts when it’s a shop owner
Interesting because my father always taught me "You speak the language you're learning with the accent their native speakers speak English with". It deals with rhythm and sounds and it's been very helpful for me anyway. Also that idea of someone's accent or lack-of affecting how they are treated is way, way more significant than we realise I think.
I’m from china,I’m struggling for learning english very hard just because of my interest, thanks for TED’s video!
how's your english going?
It might be weird but I learned English just watching series (with subs) and repeating what actors saying. I was sitting in my room watching and copying phases like I was in front of a camera acting myself. I didn't plan anything. I was just imagining I am fluent already 😂 Years passed and now I live in the UK and doing my BA course because at certain moment my school grades for English became better (from 0, I couldn't say even "my name is XXX") and I saw so many new prospects I'm not saying my English is perfect now. I just can't believe that my whole life changed so much just because I've got a habit repeating words from tv shows
I did that with Spanish. I still am not totally fluent but I understand sooo much and can talk much better than before
I'm impressed by the fact "English is not the art you master, but the tool you communicate." Yeah it's absolutely right... I want to struggle to improve my English skills.
I think that his methods for improving our English skills are really good. I especially liked the way with native speaker and pronunciation imrovement. Also, I agree with him that watching TV films and listening to music are also very good pathes to learn foreign languages. Of all the language learning methods presented in the video, I personally use these two. Finally, I would to add that l I'm very impressed with the way he ended his speech. That was incredible!
Last time, I listened to Ted's lecture about the reason for learning a language. I think it's very good to learn a language, but I can't learn it as fast. Also, I think there is a level of language. I was able to solve my curiosity by looking at this lecture and seeing how long it takes for me to learn the language that I was curious about so that I could do well like a local person, basic steps, and living language level. I'm interested in languages, so I want to be good at many things, but I've also solved my concerns about how to start. As I said in this lecture, I think the more exposed a language is, the faster it can be learned. And you can catch the words, humor, etc. used by locals use. My goal is to stay in a foreign country for about a year and learn a language before graduating later. I'm writing comments right now, but I don't have a language that I can say I'm good at, but I hope I can master one language by the time I graduate. When I saw the video about language before, I thought language was important, but I felt it again in this lecture.
this makes me feel a lot better about my french! ive always sort of thought about my goal for learning french not necessarily to be perfect, but to be seamless into the culture! really loved this talk!
I agree! I’m a language teacher and most people underestimate the importance of pronunciation! In fact, I think as a beginner or at an intermediate level you can have a limited vocabulary and only basic grammar skills but you’ll communicate in a more natural way with natives if your pronunciation is as authentic as possible. So keep working on that!
I've never resonated with a Ted Talk more. This was phenomenal.
Same Orion from Ogden, UTAH?
What I like about this talk is that he's essentially just saying that if you want to reach that level you need to work. No bs. Good pointers.
Being a native Portuguese speaker and having learned both English and Spanish fluently, I totally agree when he says you kinda show a different "personality" when speaking in another language. I definitely feel like that when speaking in Spanish, for example. It's like a candid impersonation of somebody else.
Oh yes, when I'm speaking English I'm much more outgoing and extroverted. Im "cooler" and more adventurous.
you still speak portuguese, right?
My godness, this man domine many lenguages while I struggle just with learning english.That's amazing
The "ouch" example was great, that stuff is too difficult to control! :D You can be as fluent as possible, but if someone knocks a tray out of your hand, you'll swear in your mother tongue. Let me chip in with: NUMBERS. No matter the level of language proficiency, when you read a text and there are numbers in it, they'll come to your mind in your native language first... I think when you overcome that, that's when you've officially become like a native speaker, lol Written by my smartass English identity
I used to think that... but now I also say aua when I'm with germans
Who said that thinking numbers in English means one has attained native speaker level?
lowgrasswhite I know many foreigners here (in New Caledonia) who don’t even speak very well French but swear in French when they’re surprised. I think it really depends what language you use the most in your daily life, no matter what your level is.
in Taiwanese, 幹
Counting and multiplying is always in your native language.
Спасибо 🙏🏻 I am a Russian woman living in the USA. It was very incredible to hear at the end of the lecture that you are married to a Russian woman and your children speak Russian. 😁🥰
"How many languages do you know, so many times you are human" Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
That's incredible!!! Thanks for the way you're conveying the information!!! So pleasant to hear this all, my heart is full of many thanks to you!!! The video is useful, thank you very much!!!
I learned Italian and English at the same time and I totally agree with you. Children do not need to be totally immersed in English to learn it> I knew who to speak to in English and who to speak to in Italian and have never had to stop and think about it. Being bilingual is not a hindrance at all.
I have been learning English for a year or more and it has really been difficult for me to understand when someone speaks native English. So I'm trying to improve my english by listening to videos in ted´s channel, and It is really helping me to understand more. I´m happy ☺❤
This man gives me a lot of motivation and a very incentive to work hard again and again and improve my English and my French so let's do it it doesn't matter where u live or who are u jus remember to try ur best to make ur dream cames true and become fluent in many language not just English by the way I from morroco and I wish u all a good luck guys , let's do it
What a match, hebrew... Basically got a half of what he said in the end. Feels so good to realize that u're fluent in English, like daaaaamn
Wow, he speak so many languages and he did it so good. I'm amazed by this man.
Wow! He said everything I was thinking about in understanding others, and the work they have to go through in understanding us arrogant Americans, but our laziness to accept their hard work and mental exercise to master our way of talking too.
I like the SEA principle (Sound like a native, Express yourself like a native, and Act like a native) he mentioned. When you act a certain way, you feel a certain way, and then you'll speak a certain way. I learned it from a public speaking video. When you act confidently, you'll feel confident, and then you'll speak with confident. This TED talk really reminds me of this awesome method!
Yeah. I totally agree with the part describing the areas to focus on when we're learning native speakers. Especially, for pronunciation, I often record my voice speaking some conversation book for another language. And, I can compare my voice with another voice on the book's material. And, for expressing that local usually use, I listen or practice the language's drama. Yeah, I think the thing is persistence. If we want to learn another language, I think we should be patient till we can get the ability. Anyways, that was a very good speech. Thanks.
Our accent is part of our culture, even native speaker have their accents, for example, a british won't sound like an australian or an american, We just have to pronounce well, no changes our accent
VENTHOR TOOLS you're RIGHT . People shouldn't be ashamed of theirs accent.
you re 100% right . I ve always thought of this way and you ve really put it in the best accurate way .
Totally agree!
I am watching Ted talks to improve my fluently and listening skill . Thank you Ted .
This was not only interesting but also useful for me. As a student of American University, I do not have enough speaking skill to use my potential fully. Watching this I have found the problem. I have realized that I do not have problem with first two steps( pronunciation and Colloquial speech) but have some problems with cultural traits. It really limits my speech and also understanding of lectures. Professors often use that kind of phrases during the lectures and plus my character to that, I always miss the part full of them. Now, I know the concrete problem and the solution. Thanks,great job!
Living in a foreign country really push your thinking when it comes to learning another language, but it is not enough to reach the native skills level, you also have to immerse yourself in their culture and be humble enough to accept criticism in order for you to grow.
Indeed I agree with you. I have russian coworkers who have been living in my country for over 9 years but they still need help from me.
Hello, I'm From brazil and I'm studying english language. So, I'm here to ask If someone would become my friend to practice english and get contact, I would love it. My Intragram user : J4nds. :)
Damn, your comment sounds almost like a poem..good 👍
@@jeants4283 Eu estou legal com isso :)
Totally agree w u .
0:00-3:40 The speaker's experience when visiting Soviet Union and how it affec him 3:41-4:26 Interacting with the audience 4:28-6:04 The metaphor with opening deck of cards and the chart with different levels of English 6:05-8:11 How his bilingual background influence him 8:12-9:35 Back to the chart with different levels of English 9:36-14:57 Three areas to focus on when learning a language: 9:36-11:20 (1) Eliminating/minimizing your accent 11:21-12:46 (2) Using verbs and expressions local used 12:47-14:38 (3) Adopting cultural traits 14:58-16:22 Tips for those who do not have many native speakers around them 16:23-16:49 The most important thing of his talk: pronounciation 16:50-17:37 How he overcame his fear of the Russian language and saying goodbye in a foreign language
Anton Chehov said that "the more languages you know, the more times you are human"! Thank you so much for this video❤
One slight inaccuracy: in 1987 exchange rate was 1 ruble = ca. $1.5. But indeed a great TED talk. ☺️
I love how I did all these things on my own and it all worked and now I just bumped into this video basically reminding me i did well.
Damn ! He speaks 6 languages . Thats amazing in all the 4 different language family.
Can't agree more to learn the language authentically by living close to the native community or even develop closer friendships with them!
"Mucho éxito con sus estudios de idiomas" Super natural❤❤
Amazing and inspiring talk. Thank you!
It is so impressive! I totally agree with the importance of working on pronuncation. A few years ago, I had an awakward Japanese-english speaking accent cuz I speak fluent Japanese. I tried more than 2 years to posh my accent, and I feel so good now. Thanks for sharing this wonderful idea.
Any tips on how you improved your accent?
this guy have so many interesting examples in his speech. they blow me away
At first when i started learning English, i could not understand what they tell in ted talk. Then after a long time, i completely understand what they are talking about
English is my first language to learn that's why i always listen ted to improve my english thank you wow i wondered how people learn languages well like this
Love from Indonesia. ❤. May God bless us.
one thing that is very hard to change is clothing choices..I was born and raised in italy and now live in the US..I now dress like the people I work with and like some of my friends..when I go back to italy my family and friends notice the difference, a more casual and laid back appearance than what they're used to..the only option I found is to have separate wardrobes for each country you are connected to..better still, own an apartment in each country and leave your local clothes there!! kidding aside in the end just be yourself and enjoy your time together with your loved ones
Thank you for your valuable talk.I need to go up my english level and so,I usually watch TED× Talks when I have time.
Thanks for your helpful trips. I will practice more to improve English :D
oh man! I'm not a big fan of saying "Speak English like a Native" I preferred "Speak English like a new version of yourself" . This changed my entire life!
To summarize, 17 minutes to tell us that.. We must practise. Thank you Marc
I really loved it, especially when you insisted on the pronunciation because I consider it like a soul of languages by the way I speak Arabic, I learned French language, and I'm learning English since 2020, I've reached the upper intermediate level. think you for sharing your experience with us
I think that the native accent is certainly useful when you are trying not to get screwed by a taxi driver or bargaining a price, but otherwise I'd say to learn the native accent should be an option, not a must. You can have it as a goal and even do it from the very beginning when learning a language, but don't make that a requirement to be able to call yourself fluent in a language. Also I heard his accent right away. Because I have the same accent I could tell that he was a German speaker who speaks very good American English. In all he said he seemed to come more from a very German perspective. Although I didn't see how he was American influenced what he said about having different identities when speaking different languages is very true.
I agree, I heard his accent right away too. I have a southern American accent and I sound very different than loads of other Americans. I disagree with him on the accent part. I think it’s just more about a command of grammar.
I just came here to learn English and discover the minds of the people who are taking. ❤️🇮🇶
He is a genius in learning foreign language. He can speak a lot of languages. Admire !!!
I know speak like native speaker is very hard.But I’m never give up,I always try my best to improve my English skills everyday.I want to thank you for this video.This directed motivate to me for continued learning English. ❤️ 👏 ❤️
Very helpful! I really enjoyed listening and also the advises are good!
Thank you so much. It's so helpful
Recently I can gradually understand what to say them. It's so fun. I try studying English. thank you.
I have no problems with having an accent or anyone else's accent. What I have problems with is dealing with how people treat me because I am different. And that creates a lack of confidence, especially during job interviews. Good luck everyone. You can do it.
That's how I feel when I speak French. The people who look down on you probably only speak one language and don't understand the effort it takes to learn a new language. I wouldn't worry too much about what they think.
I'm trying to improve my English following Ted's. I'd like to find people to practise with.
Areas to work to become a native speaker: 09:45 Pronunciation - perfect sentence technique - practice 11:22 Phrases and expressions - accumulate - practice 12:47 local traits - actively observe - mimic practice 14:55 Immersion - practice All about practice
damnnn
i love the way he speaks and wanna be like him
Listening to ted is definitely helping me to improve my english skills
Loved this video, played it to my High school students in China today. I have a Chinese wife and my 2 young kids are multilingual! Very good tips indeed!
It is one of the good ways to improve your English by listening to TED TALKS
I'm a native spanish speaker and I work as spanish-english interpreter and the americans for whom I interpret into spanish use colloquial language, which, as a non-native I don't manage them all, and it happens to me that the native refuse to clarify them. THat makes me find it out by myself, and because of the experience I've gone through with the native, I don´t forget the word.
This man is simply unbelievable! Hi is so intelligent and charming. Я получила большое удовольствие от его лекции. Браво!
I think TEDx is going to be my English study partner as I'm polyglot i know My mothertounge Awadhi, My native language Nepali, Similarly i also know Bengali as i completed my graduation in Bangladesh, Im also fluent in hindi as i watched hindi movies and series simultaneously, besides this i also practice Maithali and Khaam language which is consider as mothertongue of different indigenous among 123 languages of Nepal. Lets Hope i will speak fluently either by using low vocabulary or with little bit english knowledge♥️♥️😍
Oh! Amazing presentation this video I got from how I will emphasizing my speech to do well thanks
When he speaks, his voice is pleasant to hear, who agrees with me?
In the age of globalization, languages remain one of the last barriers between people.
No, languages are not the last barriers between people, there are also cultures, education and religions.
They are national borders, not languages.
If we overcome language barrier, we can overcome borders and cultures
The language is not barrier between us. I guees it's our goverments which show to us what we need to hate each other. It is my opinion UPD: At least I meant about russian goverment xD
Maxilingual vv
Easy step: Marry an English native speaker! works a looooot
U mean marry?
@@manopablogo8983 hahahaha
@@diamelapumarinojackson7634 hahahahahaha
I am already married 😆
Can we talk? 🥺🥺 To improve my English.
That is an interesting topic, a level to language learning that I hadn't thought much about yet. And also how native speakers will conscious or unconsciously treat someone differently if they don't seem foreign.
In Cantonese there are words with the same spelling but different meanings because of pronounciation . I learned it through the native speakers the locals and by talking to the elderly. They are the best tutors since, actions speaks louder than words. 😘😘😘 nice !!😀😀😀
That is a wonderful speech and i got a lot of significant learning approaches after watching it.
Great advices, I’ll keep it up and this speeches are really helpful for me. Greetings from Puerto Rico.
Advice like information is invariable word ! :)
What a well said and organized speech. As a non American citizen who has learned English to the level of a native speaker, I can totally relate and agree with all of what that was said here. Thanks so much!!!
Even with "eliminate your own accent?!
Great recommendations on learning languages. The "long haired dictionary" has helped me immensely in learning a foreign language.
This was so good. I didn’t want it to end 😊
I’m really impressed by his speech! When he started talking about the fear from a language i remembered myself a couple of years ago. Now i can be proud of myself, cuz i have been learning English for a quite long time and reached the level when i can fully understand what I’m reading and listening (also understand English videos without subtitles😂) And absolutely agree that music helps to improve pronunciation, to minimize the accent and also to cheer up) not a single day goes by without listening it))
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I loved it! thank you for all those recommendations. I will put it on practice.
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You know what´s crazy? I´m a german and im Listening to the Tedx Talks and everytime i watch the next one i dont realize that it is all in English. Im not even really trying to understand it or translate it to German. I just start to think in English. For me its the best language to listen to and try to understand or learn something.
that last bit about songs explains why my korean grows in such a different way than my french! so cool!
The best talk about languages I've heard so far.
u're right!
His story of language acquisition is very intriguing. Since I learned English and mandarin at the same time I therefore always assumed that Chinese people can speak English as a native language. Language has everything to do with identity.
With English as my second language, I struggled quite a bit when learning it. One way that really helped me was learning another language with English as my third language, in my case - Italian. This enabled me to actually try to explain Italian words with English, and think the English way. Not only it helped me learn Italian (which I enjoyed) but also I saw a significant improvement on my English afterwards.
Wow. Thanks for sharing. That's great tip.
your writing is fantastic!
Wow, I was really impressed with his speech!! 💓 I totally agree with his opinion!!
Jajajaja okay, deseo hablar todos esos idiomas! Me sorprendió el final!!! Ya tengo el italiano, inglés intermedio, el siguiente es el coreano! Vamos que podemos políglotas!😊✌️
This was outstanding and very funny at times, love these videos! You can really find wonderfull personalities.
I already listened and watched twice this lecture and wrote down few vocab for practising my speaking as well as understanding deeply...
I loved his final haha, that's awesome.