Clive Thomas inexplicably disallows Bryan Hamilton's late 'winner' for Everton and an exciting semi-final ends in a draw
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Duncan McKenzie was real class.
@smilodontiger56752 жыл бұрын
Superb. Just as it should be semi final kicking off on a neutral ground on Saturday afternoon at 3pm.. Absolutely brilliant.. Terry macs chip was sublime, a goal by a master of his art... And to top it all off THAT Pitch, brilliant 70s action at its finest
@grahamharlow7471 Жыл бұрын
All Cup semi finals should be played on neutral grounds.The F A are just corrupt liar's..
@guddlom7655 Жыл бұрын
@@guddlom7655 yep.. Semi's at Wembley NO NO NO...
@grahamharlow7471 Жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Gordon Lee.
@garycarter012 жыл бұрын
those were the days when English football was played by British/Irish players only!!
@perryleary17054 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on
@roysammons24454 жыл бұрын
Always thought at this time a British national football team would have been beneficial on the global scene, especially when you looked at how the likes of Liverpool (and then followers: Forest, Villa, Ipswich, Aberdeen & Everton) dominated....
@garethbuckeridge6910 Жыл бұрын
Spot on lad...
@clyth4111 ай бұрын
Bryan Hamilton was most certainly Northern Irish/ British.
@thomassmith73746 ай бұрын
And played on an atrocious pitch. Today, players would not even go out on that surface. Good old days.
@martinsmith15384 ай бұрын
I’m always hoping Hamilton’s goal will stand every time I watch it! Never get over it! We were ROBBED.
@chazs0013 жыл бұрын
It happens now. All the big teams ( the Fa's favourites) get the rub of the green. Always have always will..
@bobstermaher Жыл бұрын
It was clearly offside😂🤣
@tenrgn Жыл бұрын
@@tenrgnit was never given for offside. Clive Thomas said it was ‘infringement’ originally meaning handball.
@camerondarcy55008 ай бұрын
@@tenrgnuse the 6 yard box as a line, clearly a yard onside
@camerondarcy55008 ай бұрын
Quite agree .Clive Thomas couldn't explain afterwards why he disallowed it
@garylantow-humble76116 ай бұрын
Duncan McKenzie is magic
@1878Originals5 жыл бұрын
Great game : great football and fantastic atmosphere !
@nicolavivarelli41272 жыл бұрын
Brilliant game,thats what football was like in the 70s pitches were like fields most days,players were always slipping and sliding because of the conditions, made great entertaining for viewing public.
@malcolmwinn43003 жыл бұрын
When this match was being played I was sixteen . I was working part time in a lousy little shoe shop and I hated it . The match was on the radio in the background but it wasn't the same as being at home listening to it . The following week I walked out of the job after two hours because I'd heard on the grapevine that I was going to be sacked . So I walked out . Great memories of a great semi final and escaping from a rubbish job .
@democracyperson99003 жыл бұрын
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
@jfktoffee18782 жыл бұрын
When the FA Cup meant something before it was destroyed bt TV
@garyowens15172 жыл бұрын
It was destroyed by the FA, playing semi-finals at Wembley.
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
@@peterburry2531 that is very true.
@garyowens15178 ай бұрын
@@garyowens1517 like most of us, I used to absolutely love semi-finals day when Villa park, Hillsborough, Old Trafford etc were the venues... Ever since they've been switched to Wembley the magic has been detracted and the final itself feels like just another game. Remember when FA Cup Final Saturday was completely dedicated to the occasion on both BBC and ITV, with cup final grandstand, It's a Knockout and the team coach journeys to the stadium? Remember when replays were played during the following midweek week rather than about 10 days later when the edge had gone out of the tie?... The FA is utterly clueless and should hand over such decision making to us fans, We understand the game and the big occasions far better than those corporate suits ever will.
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
@@peterburry2531 yep. I'm 63 and cup final day was a big occasion. Sat in front of the tv all day switching back and forth from bbc to itv then my dad insisting we it on bbc. Now it's got a stupid kick off time. Not the same anymore. Football isn't the same either. Full of over analysis and stupid stats.
@garyowens15178 ай бұрын
@@garyowens1517 All games used to kick off at exactly the same time on exactly the same day. as well. Now that IS where TV has ruined Saturday afternoons. It's ironic that the most exciting day of the season is the final day when this still happens, and a goal in one game can have huge repercussions for a completely separate game being played perhaps 200 miles away.... This used to be a regular Saturday afternoon experience and it was so much better. (Im' 62 and always preferred the BBC coverage of the final as well)
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
what would duncan mckenzie be worth to day pure magic to watch
@martinjameslewis57023 жыл бұрын
Was in the kippax by the fence between the 2 sets of fans ,it was only a 5 ft gap ,before the match started you never saw so many cans being thrown at each other , if the fence hadn't been there there would of been a mass battle , before and after the match both sets of fans were on the same trains and buses ,yet no trouble at all . we were robbed that day without doubt .
@TheMightOfTheEnglish6 жыл бұрын
Bollocks
@williamgeoffreyjones34212 жыл бұрын
@@williamgeoffreyjones3421 What was bollocks that without the fence it would of kicked off I was right there in the middle of it .there was pure hated between the two sets of fans ,by full time it had calmed down that way .. or is it bollocks we were robbed .we were ..no doubt about replay though..
@TheMightOfTheEnglish2 жыл бұрын
Hardly any boos there.😂
@meatismurder2862 Жыл бұрын
Years later Thomas confessed in an interview. "I was behind Hamilton when the ball came to him and he moved his arm towards it so when it entered the net I made a gut reaction that he must have handled it. As soon as I blew the whistle I knew from the lack of a reaction from the Liverpool players that I'd made a mistake. It suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't seen the ball hit him on the arm and so shouldn't have blown but it was too late. I was standing in the six yard box dismissing the Everton player's protests knowing that all hell would break loose if I was to suddenly change my mind. It was only when I left the field that a journalist reminded me I had wrongly disallowed an Ipswich semi final winner two years earlier. The scorer, he reminded me, was Brian Hamilton." Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong but nobody got a second chance against us [Liverpool] and they knew when the final whistle went that their opportunity [to get to the final] was gone." I do think that winning the cup in 1977 could have galvanised Everton to go on and win the title in 1978. Ultimately I don't regret this goal as much as I do the failure of the club to build on the 80s and ensure they remained part of the elite clubs in the 90s.
@TheGiantKillers8 жыл бұрын
Do you have the source for that interview, please?
@scherben88707 жыл бұрын
Ulster Groundhopper crap
@nickturner7586 жыл бұрын
Crap
@nickturner7586 жыл бұрын
Win the title in 1978?? You have got to be joking. Did you not hear of Nottingham forest and the fantastic season they had?? Poor losers Everton
@eddiepower38766 жыл бұрын
doubt we would have won league even cup. we were weak at back well in goal. if only billy bingham had seen the true value of having a top goal keeper like peter shilton who we should have got few years earlier 1970s could well have been a great decade for us
@bigbadbill00716 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, we were robbed that day,we had the beginnings of a great team around that time, I didn't like Gordon Lee, mainly for not playing Duncan McKenzie, preferring Jim Pearson, although I have to admit Jim Pearson did have some good games in some of these posts, as a 15 year old at the time I have lots of memories, mainly the pouring rain, I also remember the cans/bottles being thrown between us and them in the Kippax, but at the same Everton/Liverpool in the stand behind the goal sitting side by side getting along fine, where did things go wrong?, I can't understand why we don't have entertainers in the game anymore, I think Everton still have that spirit where local Everton supporting players come up through the ranks, but I think that money and winning at all costs, regardless of fair play has ruined our beautiful game.
@tonylatham93369 жыл бұрын
Entertainers? Gordon Lee was the man who said flair was what you had on trousers. No wonder he didn't favour McKenzie. Meanwhile, the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Man City, Real Madrid are all great entertainers of today.
@scherben88706 жыл бұрын
Lee got the team away from long ball playing possession-ball-on-the-ground football as we see today. They were good to watch. Fans would get frustrated at seeing a player keep possession not pumping a ball aimlessly into the centre invariably giving the ball away.
@johnburns40175 жыл бұрын
Oh for them magic days FA CUP SEMI FINAL and Grand National same day ⚽⚽🐴🐴
@kevinbeck6785Ай бұрын
A scandalous decision that cost Everton. Would have played Man Utd in the FA Cup final, it was all about him (Clive Thomas). It was never offside or handball, even the Liverpool players didn't appeal.
@user-gd1ow9kb1q5 жыл бұрын
He was a disgraceful corrupt referee who always wanted to be the centre of attention and make a name for himself.
@charliepeebles25314 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the 1st, n certainly not the last time, bent football has done us against the darlings, oh yeah sorry I'm a bitter blue! 🙄 Amazes me why any reds I speak to, can't even name a single match changing decision in derby's that have gone against them, not one, n yet without even stretching my mind, can name a dozen against us in a heart beat, starting from this fraud decision! And now we have the fabulous Var as a refs fail safe for the media darlings! Corrupt then, even more so now!
@williambeesley92242 жыл бұрын
@@williambeesley9224 Agree with everything you say.
@user-gd1ow9kb1q Жыл бұрын
Robbed Ipswich 2 years earlier of going to the FA Final disallowing now 1 but 2 Bryan Hamilton goals in the replay...
@TheTimmyH Жыл бұрын
Yep. Even' referee ' here as well! Yep football's always been bent too an extent.
@paulkendall7890 Жыл бұрын
One of my first memories.. oddly watched with my brother and dad! I felt sorry for Lawson who my dad was shouting to get back on his line.. all game.. history is cruel as it's always written by the victors.. I forgot how close EFC where to being something big back then! Although their backline was a shambles!
@elizabethevelyn97614 жыл бұрын
We were shite mate especially that muppet of a goalie,we never had one decent goalie in the 70s
@tonynesbit967311 ай бұрын
Although I am a Evertonian I must admit that Liverpool had some great players that day. Kevin Keegan, Ray Clemence, Emlyn Hughes and Clive Thomas to name a few.😂
@user-py5ct1go2sАй бұрын
Terrible mistake by Clive Thomas , you have to feel for Everton here.
@Lord_Hillcrest4 жыл бұрын
Liverpool the darlings of the FA have always got the decisions and this is just another example of many. Unlucky Everton you deserved to win!
@KryptonitetoallBS7 жыл бұрын
Absolute shite. Manchester Utd have always been the darlings of the FA and the media. Even when they were relegated and during the years when they hardly won anything the media still loved them. Liverpool FC has always been despised by the FA and media.
@badacid7 жыл бұрын
For years the FA have been made up of Liverpool fans, ex Liverpool people and the like. They used their influence in 1985 to have ALL English clubs banned from Europe when the particular incident ONLY involved Liverpool. Over the years there have been numerous incidents when the FA have thrown the book @ any and every incident involving Utd whereas even racism was almost turned a blind eye to by the PL and the FL when their beloved Liverpool were involved. Indeed as recently as last season a Liverpool player was found GUILTY of taking drugs. Was he banned for life? Were the games he took part in replayed or the points given to the opposition?......Were they fuck as like. Alternatively Rio only missed a drugs test and was banned for 8 months!!!!!!!!!!!!! Typical. United treated like shit whereas the FA's darlings Liverpool get off scot free. Even the courts are in on it. How else can we explain a video of Slippy G knocking the shite out of a DJ with his 10 mates behind him and he gets an acquittal within 30 mins??? Always been the same. It fuckin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@KryptonitetoallBS7 жыл бұрын
Neutral Observer. why should sakho be banned for life? should never had been banned in the first place.
@richiemcgrathdrums7 жыл бұрын
he used a drug which burns fat. Whether it's a banned drug or not it's a performance enhancer. When you consider some players get banned for a season for missing a test it seems very strange that a player who is found guilty of taking a fat burner is allowed to play immediately after finding that this particular drug wasn't on a banned list. One law for everyone else apart from FA darlings Liverpool.
@KryptonitetoallBS7 жыл бұрын
It's not funny at all! if it's not on the banned list it is fine to take. Any other player on any other team would of been treated the same. Fact is the player was treated badly and missed out on playing in Euros when he had done nothing illegal.
@richiemcgrathdrums7 жыл бұрын
Still makes me sick to this day, never offside, never a handball...
@jfktoffee18782 жыл бұрын
great game, mcdermotts goal was sublime... oh and the pitch was awesome, could you see todays namby pambys playin on that
@grahamharlow39827 жыл бұрын
I was behind the goal. Everton defenders were constantly going forwards to get out of the mud. Look at the goal again. The game should not have been played.
@johnburns40175 жыл бұрын
The pitch was "awesome" if you like agricultural football.
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
Motson was on about the linesman's flag up for offside. No flag went up. I was there at that end. The replay was clear it was not offside. Motson could see that in the replay so why did he say it was offside?
@johnburns40175 жыл бұрын
Because Motson was a Prat , imho the worse commentator on tele in the 70's 80's 90's and 00's . Barry Davis miles better
@johnruby1475 жыл бұрын
Motson was making an assumption because, like the rest of us, he couldn't see why it was disallowed either.
@markaustin55434 жыл бұрын
@@markaustin5543 He shouldn't assume.
@johnburns40174 жыл бұрын
Referee has the right to call offside regardless of whether or not the linesman has flagged. But that said the decision {incorrectly} was handball. Emlyn Hughes did say on match of the seventies that years later Clive Thomas admitted his mistake but shortly after broadcasting the BBC were forced to make a grovelling apology after receiving a threat of legal proceedings.
@jlatirl43163 жыл бұрын
Everton has the best supporters in the UK
@LEONIDA18994 жыл бұрын
Is that before or after they were rioting at Millwall in January last year?
@martinodoni89433 жыл бұрын
@@martinodoni8943 before and after. And you are stupid
@LEONIDA18993 жыл бұрын
@@hariwyngriffith3401 you smell bitch
@LEONIDA18993 жыл бұрын
@@LEONIDA1899 you globby bucket of stinking chip oil!
@hariwyngriffith34013 жыл бұрын
@@hariwyngriffith3401 you're a legend
@countlevnikolayevichtolsto71593 жыл бұрын
Amazing Clive Thomas managed to referee a World Cup Final as some of his decisions in FA Cup big matches were verging on embarrassing. He certainly didn't like Bryan Hamilton that's for sure, what many people don't know apart from ruling out this perfectly good goal 2 years earlier he ruled out 2 goals for Ipswich in the semi-final replay against West Ham and guess who scored or didn't score them?...
@TheTimmyH4 жыл бұрын
I should say officiated in World Cup Finals (74, 78)...amazed he got to those heady heights, mixed him up with Jack Taylor.
@TheTimmyH4 жыл бұрын
Thomas made a very dodgy decision in the Dutch v Czechoslovakia semi final 76, which he admitted years later, should have been a foul on Cruyff, which he never blew for and the Czechs scored from that incident.
@michaelcollins69762 ай бұрын
What amazing football...!!!! Not only Beatles's music, but good football...
@carpediem42903 жыл бұрын
That ball by. Case for McDermott class
@johnkarayiannis1725Ай бұрын
the biggest robbery since the 1963 train robbery. 8 years after this referee thomas walked out at Goodison to a crescendo of boos and abuse. Everton fans never forget
@peterwhitaker40383 жыл бұрын
The biggest robbery since the 1975 European Cup final when Leeds were robbed by the cheating ref and Franz Beckenbauer. That's why you'll hear us singing we are the champions champions of Europe. We won it but not officially.
@bobstermaher Жыл бұрын
I'm sure Clive the Book Thomas had the last Laugh like he had 8 years earlier at Maine Rd
@paulhoey2956Ай бұрын
What a great game, when football was played by men and not the fairies that play today and dive every 2 mins.
@michaelharte95725 жыл бұрын
Right!!
@carpediem42903 жыл бұрын
No tattoos.
@swaldron55583 жыл бұрын
Everton. Massive. 💙
@ryanjh86842 жыл бұрын
Great game in awful conditions but Everton were robbed by our friend Mr Thomas.
@markevans81072 жыл бұрын
I'm a West Ham and Celtic fan but Everton WERE robbed in that game!!
@sharonhopton56858 жыл бұрын
Justice was done in the final though!
@Martrex2966 жыл бұрын
@@Martrex296 bollocks
@davidreed19954 жыл бұрын
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
@jfktoffee18782 жыл бұрын
Phil Neal played Hamilton onside
@crazymankelly4 ай бұрын
Look at the amount of Liverpool in the Platt Lane...supposedly the Everton end.
@stel32093 жыл бұрын
In this days merseyside fans often mixed. You can even see clips of Everton fans celebrating goals on the Kop end.
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
I think Thomas disallowed Hamilton's goal for either offside (don't forget in those days level was offside) or more likely handball. Hard to tell for sure because you didn't have all the camera angles we have now, but it looked like he knocked it in with his hand.
@UpTheJunction798 жыл бұрын
Handball - as other posts testify.
@peterh13537 жыл бұрын
Hit his hip ya fookin dickheads.
@gazrev76713 жыл бұрын
I remember he sorted of chested it or hit his midriff it was never handball
@redflag89702 жыл бұрын
Never handball or offside. The linesman admitted in an interview years later that Thomas said it was offside, linesman said he was clearly on, so Thomas said hanball, we have to get our stories straight. Man was a cheat.
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@elshadjafar24379 ай бұрын
I would not have liked to been responsible for cleaning those kits.
@RoadCone4115 жыл бұрын
The great Clive Thomas. In the pantheon of top referees he’s up there with Collina.
@Ali742 жыл бұрын
😀
@HandleGF8 ай бұрын
Brilliant that..
@elizabethevelyn97614 жыл бұрын
Clive thomas disallowed that goal v opponents....liverpool....and then allowed an offside goal by ....liverpool in the 1981 lcf
@fkthelefties6 жыл бұрын
That's because the count was a closet red.
@tonynesbit96734 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the Everton player said to the referee at the end.
@cerneuffington26568 жыл бұрын
Offside! Get real. There were two Liverpool players in front of him. Inexplicable.
@paulrimmer3919 ай бұрын
Imagine Messi or Ronaldo playing on a pitch like that!!!!!! They´d be crying for Mummy...
@mjb49834 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't want to go out onto the pitch in case they got their nice clean kit dirty. And then there's dirt under their nails. 🤣
@roysammons24454 жыл бұрын
Neymar too.
@swaldron55583 жыл бұрын
exactly what is it you've seen in messi that suggests he is a tart?
@itsinthetreesitscoming74313 жыл бұрын
Messi grew up playing on some atrocious pitches back in Argentina,
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
Everton was robbed
@dixiedean6099 жыл бұрын
Were
@eddiepower38766 жыл бұрын
As usual. LFC the shame of the Merseyside
@LEONIDA18993 жыл бұрын
@@LEONIDA1899 EFC the whiners of Merseyside. Everton have had plenty of wrong decisions go in their favour down the decades, including against Liverpool, and I've yet to hear a single Everton fan (the so-called "best supporters in the UK") even have the maturity to admit when it happens. But they still bang on and on and on and ON AND ON about a questionable handball decision over 40 years later. That's not good support, that's just living in the past.
@martinodoni89433 жыл бұрын
@@martinodoni8943 shut up dick
@LEONIDA18993 жыл бұрын
Worst than cars nicked?
@swaldron55583 жыл бұрын
Which stadium is It ?
@alostoraalostora94903 жыл бұрын
Maine Road, Man City's old ground.
@dnstone11273 жыл бұрын
Could only be Maine Road. Usually was a choice for two North West Clubs
@andrewphippsphillips14553 жыл бұрын
Are you thicko?
@swaldron55583 жыл бұрын
Every team has had incidents like this...The truly great teams motor on. Just sayin' how it is. They were robbed on the day though. Very sad.
@martinda74462 жыл бұрын
Hamilton’s goal should have stood and iam a Liverpool fan
@user-ob9mo1my9tАй бұрын
I was at this game with my brother who was an Evertonian then we went to a Kevin keegan night in Dorchester and keegan said to my brother when he was sat with Emlyn Hughes and Emlyn said to Kevin Everton were robbed but we knew you won't get a second chance.
@peterhollywood5640 Жыл бұрын
When football was a man’s game
@martyndavid2094 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see today's prima donna players on a pitch like that.
@carlh4296 жыл бұрын
Why?... The standard lf football is waaaay better on todays pitches.
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
11:39 is the infamous incident.
@scherben88707 жыл бұрын
The past was pathetic in so many ways. Can you imagine Man City these days not even having a heavy roller at their disposal. Instead they had an old man with a shovel and his apprentice watching on. By the way, I was at the other semi that day between Leeds and Man U in Sheffield and I don't recall a drop of rain all day in fact as I recall, it was a quite a nice day.
@DeniseFactor Жыл бұрын
Yes, people harping on about the past as if everything was perfect. It wasn't. Shocking pitches, rampant racism and homophobia....
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
A year later Clive Thomas made a total fool of himself on the world stage.
@HandleGF8 ай бұрын
Yep Brazil v Sweden 😳
@cooperman3976 ай бұрын
LOL "...both goalkeepers are wearing gloves.." It's amazing to think that goalkeepers used to go out there bare handed up until the 1980's before the rulings changed. Tough, brave men. It was bad enough in the school playground being in goal bare hands
@tdonovan47356 жыл бұрын
It's not a ruling! A goalkeeper doesn't have to wear gloves!
@gazrev76713 жыл бұрын
Robbed that day no offside and the ball com. off Hamilton's hip into the net .
@flynnterry98482 жыл бұрын
What is John Motson banging on about....... offside??
@Duncan19744 жыл бұрын
I think he was just as baffled as everyone else about how it could be invalid.
@scherben88704 жыл бұрын
Motson was generally clueless... Bless his soul.... Barry Davies was always the far better and more informed commentator, and it's scandalous how often he was overlooked in favour of Motty for the big games
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
i remember this well it was a bit of a sticky toffee pudding of a pitch and yes i think that everton were robbed by the referee
@teddyedward99703 жыл бұрын
Clive Thomas always did like to be the centre of attention. There have been a few others like that since then and it makes you a bad referee.
@someoneorother22227 жыл бұрын
One of many dodgy Derby decisions against Everton over the years.
@Charlietwice7 жыл бұрын
I remember he gave it as handball but it was chested in great game an atmosphere mind
@redflag89703 жыл бұрын
Battered them in the replay. Clive Thomas was an excellent ref. great spot of that snide handball.
@gomey70Ай бұрын
amazing how decisions by referee in this game still go against us even to this day cheating at its highest order
@grahamhaughton93356 ай бұрын
Clive Thomas used to send out Xmas cards to family and friends that featured a photo of himself. He thought he was bigger than Jesus. So football matches had to be all about him.
@cbarclay994 жыл бұрын
We drew 3-2!😂 ynwa
@liamdonnelly10345 ай бұрын
everton were robbed by Thomas but Jim Pearson's hair is great!
@martyndavison70894 жыл бұрын
The problem with Clive Thomas was that it had to be all about him, and Everton paid the price for that on that day.
@trebleking164111 ай бұрын
I am a Liverpool fan and it is true..Everton were lucky to get a draw and we even had to play on a "Goodison" type pitch
@mjb4983 Жыл бұрын
Come now! It's not liverpools fault....................................................it never is!
@helenmattless40653 жыл бұрын
big semis liv v eve and utd v leeds
@redflag89706 жыл бұрын
If VAR was in use in the 70s and 80s the redshite would have won sod all.
@johndoe-lt2bj6 жыл бұрын
And when var is in use...it helps us win everything lol. There's an old saying...losers us excuses
@matthewwright78313 жыл бұрын
We were the best team in EUROPE...let alone England you bitter twat.
@stel32093 жыл бұрын
Sir Clive Thomas best referee ever.
@matthewcrawford73085 жыл бұрын
If you like incompetent cheats, then fine.
@johnburns40175 жыл бұрын
You are mental
@tonynesbit96734 жыл бұрын
Defo handball, right decision ref. Great game, how football should be. I loved those days of mud, blood & some of the best footie ever. Real football for real fans. YNWA
@Warriorant16 жыл бұрын
Hit his hip ya clown.
@gazrev76713 жыл бұрын
@@gazrev7671 Hey Gary, I was being sarcastic you muppet. We were lucky that day but still the best team of the era. YNWA
@Warriorant13 жыл бұрын
@@Warriorant1 yeah generally though you don't get to FA Cup Finals on the basis of being the 'best team of the era'. You got to this one on the basis that this referee needed to leave the pitch having had more of an impact on proceedings than any player.....
@itsinthetreesitscoming74313 жыл бұрын
Robbed yet again did not think this could get any worse until I saw the Hanson hand ball at Wembley.
@stephenpatterson51342 жыл бұрын
Lawson darracot mcnaught Lyons Pearson hamilton,we were never going to beat them.l was there we did play ok but liverpool had the better chances.
@tonynesbit96733 жыл бұрын
Mile on and Thomas admitted it later. Cheats always prosper.
@mainchan012 жыл бұрын
Dai Xaives should of been in Goal Dai Davies should of been in GOAL
@richardwilliams91136 жыл бұрын
I was right behind that goal sitting in that stand - it was 90% Liverpool fans. If I could zoom in strong enough I would be visible on the TV. The goal was legal without doubt as Thomas has confirmed since. On the day Everton battered them - they were rattled. How Liverpool scored two I don't know. When Ronnie Goodlass was running down the left wing I stood up shouting -"common on Ronnie"._ The ball was crossed to Hamilton I glanced to the linesman to my left - no flag. Hamilton scored with his hip. No Liverpool fan around me complained having a perfect view, like me. They were subdued with the few Evertonians in the stand cheering making a racket with the noise of the Evertonians in the Kippax deafening. No Liverpool players protested. Thomas disallowed the goal, with all the Liverpool fans around me asking themselves why was it disallowed. No one knew. Everton continued the onslaught after with no goal coming. Another thing about the game that was odd, was that the pitch was waterlogged. Heavy rain before the game which stopped just before the kick off. There was pools in the goalmouths. The groundsmen came on the pitch with forks _after_ the players had come on the pitch, while they were doing the kick about, which was very odd. You can see them at 0:47 for a minute or so. Like they wanted the pitch to be too wet - being instructed so. The groundsmen could have been on the pitch half an hour or so before the players came out, when the rain eased off. Liverpool's first goal was because Everton's goalie, Lawson, was too far out being lobbed. He was too far out as he did not want to be stuck in the mud and pools in the goalmouth. He was making it clear by his movements that he was avoiding the mud patch throughout the first half. I was only yards away from him.
@johnburns40174 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis, absolutely fascinating. Yes, a terrible terrible decision, not corrupt I think, just over confident and plain wrong.
@ysgol34 жыл бұрын
"Everton battered them"....eeeerrrrr - no ya never, we had the best of it until the final ten minutes. The fucking myths your fanbase come up with is astonishing.
@stel32093 жыл бұрын
@@stel3209 Everton *battered* them at times. I was there. You must not make things up. _"Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong""_
@johnburns40173 жыл бұрын
@@johnburns4017 "I was there" - so what? so was I. You never, ever "battered" us at any stage. You had a good spell for 5 minutes - that's all. Is there anything your demented fanbase don't have myths about. I was in the Kippax next to our stand - there's no way you had 10% - handfuls at the most....we had 70% of the Platt Lane as well, which was supposedly the Everton end. Yet another Everton myth - about the make up of our city. No "tourists" there that day and we well outnumbered ya.
@stel32093 жыл бұрын
@@stel3209 wrote: _"You never, ever "battered" us at any stage."_ ♦ Emlyn Hughes thought Everton battered them. Do you know he played for Liverpool? And played in that game? ♦ I was in the stand - about 10% Evertonians. Platt Lane was 60-40. Evertonians. ♦ Most noise was from the Evertonians. I was there. *You must stop making things up.*
@johnburns40173 жыл бұрын
Comentators never understood a shit about the rules, imagine that goal rulled out for offside. My goodness, could never be on 1st place and clearly it was hand ball
@zeluis9219 Жыл бұрын
Everton should have won.this game(
@francish54015 жыл бұрын
we were robbed, again
@johnb5h7hale435 жыл бұрын
Always the same old story Everton were robbed of a legitimate goal
@Dixnowy4 ай бұрын
Keegan was far a better player than McKensie
@eddiecarlton75815 күн бұрын
Hamilton was offside anyway ees a bluenose and they shouldn't av won anyway
@chrismck11008 жыл бұрын
Please read the comments on here.
@johnburns40175 жыл бұрын
Bastards got away with it 🤬
@petedry45513 жыл бұрын
a inglaterra das antiga era foda
@danilosamsam44217 жыл бұрын
This means The old England fuck???
@craigeast36826 жыл бұрын
@@craigeast3682 "old england was awesome"
@tommorowhill4 жыл бұрын
We was robbed...
@clyth4111 ай бұрын
Good decision to disallow the Everton goal ... Liverpool should have won easy they had many chances to make it 3-1
@jeanlawley64832 жыл бұрын
Liverpool getting dodgy decisions from refs in their favour. 43 years ago and not much has changed lol
@jje58784 жыл бұрын
Correct. They always got strange decisions throughout the 70's and 80's and since the Premier League began in 1992 no club has been awarded more penalties than Liverpool. It stinks !!!
@KryptonitetoallBS3 жыл бұрын
Lawson was a disastrous goalie one of the worst in our history.
@tonynesbit96732 жыл бұрын
Virtually no real scousers in the Liverpool end. All from shitty Southport,St Helens,Runcon etc. Also Tories won the 1977 local elections on Merseyside to the disgust of Everton fans.
@gregconway7362 ай бұрын
Robbed
@Guesswho-qk2kv Жыл бұрын
Justice was done. The right team won. Strange that we lost to a shit Man utd side in the final, though. Still, being League and European Champions wasn't a bad end to the season.
@badacid7 жыл бұрын
You've still never won "THE Treble" yet though ;-) That "shit" Man Utd side stopped you from becoming THE Treble winners and you would have been the first to do so back in 1977!!! ps. Shame for Everton that day. ROBBED!!!!
@KryptonitetoallBS7 жыл бұрын
What does the European cup, League champion's & League cup winners equal then? 15 years before 99.
@paulthomas6537 жыл бұрын
@BadAcid On the day Everton were by far the better team.
@johnburns40175 жыл бұрын
@@johnburns4017 myth...you had the last 5-10 minutes...
@stel32093 жыл бұрын
Never mind a doubting Thomas how about a cheating Thomas
@terrycarr52856 жыл бұрын
Everton getting robbed by refs against liverpool. Nothing changes lol
@jeee68353 жыл бұрын
Clive cheating thomas
@ianclarke54044 жыл бұрын
see my above comment
@TheTimmyH4 жыл бұрын
Plonker Clive Thomas
@mikeroberts65795 жыл бұрын
This was at maine road manchester city ... before city became a plastic mercenary club
@jeanlawley64832 жыл бұрын
When they were shite
@peterburry25318 ай бұрын
Clive Thomas the first of a long line of red shite referees who done Everton over.
@martindoherty68553 ай бұрын
I was at this game got drenched bricked outside from afar by Manc shithouses and robbed by the redshite fan thomas,went back on the Wednesday got twatted 3 0 and got bricked again loads of fun being a blue.
@tonynesbit96734 жыл бұрын
Fuck me...the hypocrisy of Evertonians is breathtaking. VVD was maimed at Goodison this year and some Reds are (obviously) still pissed off with it. The bitters are squealing "Going on about that weeks after - what's wrong with ya"!!!!!.....yet here they are 43 (FORTY THREE!) YEARS later still crying about this handball....fucking move on!
@stel32093 жыл бұрын
Coming from the fans known for. Always the victims never your fault
@saradrugi6760 Жыл бұрын
@@saradrugi6760 that is exactly my point you dhead - we get called it - yet you squeal about decisions from 45 years ago!!!
@stel3209 Жыл бұрын
robbed...by a cheating ref......
@mccartney210 ай бұрын
Everton where robbed...clive thomas,the ref was as bent as a 9 bob note
Duncan McKenzie was real class.
Superb. Just as it should be semi final kicking off on a neutral ground on Saturday afternoon at 3pm.. Absolutely brilliant.. Terry macs chip was sublime, a goal by a master of his art... And to top it all off THAT Pitch, brilliant 70s action at its finest
All Cup semi finals should be played on neutral grounds.The F A are just corrupt liar's..
@@guddlom7655 yep.. Semi's at Wembley NO NO NO...
Rest In Peace Gordon Lee.
those were the days when English football was played by British/Irish players only!!
Absolutely spot on
Always thought at this time a British national football team would have been beneficial on the global scene, especially when you looked at how the likes of Liverpool (and then followers: Forest, Villa, Ipswich, Aberdeen & Everton) dominated....
Spot on lad...
Bryan Hamilton was most certainly Northern Irish/ British.
And played on an atrocious pitch. Today, players would not even go out on that surface. Good old days.
I’m always hoping Hamilton’s goal will stand every time I watch it! Never get over it! We were ROBBED.
It happens now. All the big teams ( the Fa's favourites) get the rub of the green. Always have always will..
It was clearly offside😂🤣
@@tenrgnit was never given for offside. Clive Thomas said it was ‘infringement’ originally meaning handball.
@@tenrgnuse the 6 yard box as a line, clearly a yard onside
Quite agree .Clive Thomas couldn't explain afterwards why he disallowed it
Duncan McKenzie is magic
Great game : great football and fantastic atmosphere !
Brilliant game,thats what football was like in the 70s pitches were like fields most days,players were always slipping and sliding because of the conditions, made great entertaining for viewing public.
When this match was being played I was sixteen . I was working part time in a lousy little shoe shop and I hated it . The match was on the radio in the background but it wasn't the same as being at home listening to it . The following week I walked out of the job after two hours because I'd heard on the grapevine that I was going to be sacked . So I walked out . Great memories of a great semi final and escaping from a rubbish job .
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
When the FA Cup meant something before it was destroyed bt TV
It was destroyed by the FA, playing semi-finals at Wembley.
@@peterburry2531 that is very true.
@@garyowens1517 like most of us, I used to absolutely love semi-finals day when Villa park, Hillsborough, Old Trafford etc were the venues... Ever since they've been switched to Wembley the magic has been detracted and the final itself feels like just another game. Remember when FA Cup Final Saturday was completely dedicated to the occasion on both BBC and ITV, with cup final grandstand, It's a Knockout and the team coach journeys to the stadium? Remember when replays were played during the following midweek week rather than about 10 days later when the edge had gone out of the tie?... The FA is utterly clueless and should hand over such decision making to us fans, We understand the game and the big occasions far better than those corporate suits ever will.
@@peterburry2531 yep. I'm 63 and cup final day was a big occasion. Sat in front of the tv all day switching back and forth from bbc to itv then my dad insisting we it on bbc. Now it's got a stupid kick off time. Not the same anymore. Football isn't the same either. Full of over analysis and stupid stats.
@@garyowens1517 All games used to kick off at exactly the same time on exactly the same day. as well. Now that IS where TV has ruined Saturday afternoons. It's ironic that the most exciting day of the season is the final day when this still happens, and a goal in one game can have huge repercussions for a completely separate game being played perhaps 200 miles away.... This used to be a regular Saturday afternoon experience and it was so much better. (Im' 62 and always preferred the BBC coverage of the final as well)
what would duncan mckenzie be worth to day pure magic to watch
Was in the kippax by the fence between the 2 sets of fans ,it was only a 5 ft gap ,before the match started you never saw so many cans being thrown at each other , if the fence hadn't been there there would of been a mass battle , before and after the match both sets of fans were on the same trains and buses ,yet no trouble at all . we were robbed that day without doubt .
Bollocks
@@williamgeoffreyjones3421 What was bollocks that without the fence it would of kicked off I was right there in the middle of it .there was pure hated between the two sets of fans ,by full time it had calmed down that way .. or is it bollocks we were robbed .we were ..no doubt about replay though..
Hardly any boos there.😂
Years later Thomas confessed in an interview. "I was behind Hamilton when the ball came to him and he moved his arm towards it so when it entered the net I made a gut reaction that he must have handled it. As soon as I blew the whistle I knew from the lack of a reaction from the Liverpool players that I'd made a mistake. It suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't seen the ball hit him on the arm and so shouldn't have blown but it was too late. I was standing in the six yard box dismissing the Everton player's protests knowing that all hell would break loose if I was to suddenly change my mind. It was only when I left the field that a journalist reminded me I had wrongly disallowed an Ipswich semi final winner two years earlier. The scorer, he reminded me, was Brian Hamilton." Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong but nobody got a second chance against us [Liverpool] and they knew when the final whistle went that their opportunity [to get to the final] was gone." I do think that winning the cup in 1977 could have galvanised Everton to go on and win the title in 1978. Ultimately I don't regret this goal as much as I do the failure of the club to build on the 80s and ensure they remained part of the elite clubs in the 90s.
Do you have the source for that interview, please?
Ulster Groundhopper crap
Crap
Win the title in 1978?? You have got to be joking. Did you not hear of Nottingham forest and the fantastic season they had?? Poor losers Everton
doubt we would have won league even cup. we were weak at back well in goal. if only billy bingham had seen the true value of having a top goal keeper like peter shilton who we should have got few years earlier 1970s could well have been a great decade for us
Couldn't agree more, we were robbed that day,we had the beginnings of a great team around that time, I didn't like Gordon Lee, mainly for not playing Duncan McKenzie, preferring Jim Pearson, although I have to admit Jim Pearson did have some good games in some of these posts, as a 15 year old at the time I have lots of memories, mainly the pouring rain, I also remember the cans/bottles being thrown between us and them in the Kippax, but at the same Everton/Liverpool in the stand behind the goal sitting side by side getting along fine, where did things go wrong?, I can't understand why we don't have entertainers in the game anymore, I think Everton still have that spirit where local Everton supporting players come up through the ranks, but I think that money and winning at all costs, regardless of fair play has ruined our beautiful game.
Entertainers? Gordon Lee was the man who said flair was what you had on trousers. No wonder he didn't favour McKenzie. Meanwhile, the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Man City, Real Madrid are all great entertainers of today.
Lee got the team away from long ball playing possession-ball-on-the-ground football as we see today. They were good to watch. Fans would get frustrated at seeing a player keep possession not pumping a ball aimlessly into the centre invariably giving the ball away.
Oh for them magic days FA CUP SEMI FINAL and Grand National same day ⚽⚽🐴🐴
A scandalous decision that cost Everton. Would have played Man Utd in the FA Cup final, it was all about him (Clive Thomas). It was never offside or handball, even the Liverpool players didn't appeal.
He was a disgraceful corrupt referee who always wanted to be the centre of attention and make a name for himself.
Wasn't the 1st, n certainly not the last time, bent football has done us against the darlings, oh yeah sorry I'm a bitter blue! 🙄 Amazes me why any reds I speak to, can't even name a single match changing decision in derby's that have gone against them, not one, n yet without even stretching my mind, can name a dozen against us in a heart beat, starting from this fraud decision! And now we have the fabulous Var as a refs fail safe for the media darlings! Corrupt then, even more so now!
@@williambeesley9224 Agree with everything you say.
Robbed Ipswich 2 years earlier of going to the FA Final disallowing now 1 but 2 Bryan Hamilton goals in the replay...
Yep. Even' referee ' here as well! Yep football's always been bent too an extent.
One of my first memories.. oddly watched with my brother and dad! I felt sorry for Lawson who my dad was shouting to get back on his line.. all game.. history is cruel as it's always written by the victors.. I forgot how close EFC where to being something big back then! Although their backline was a shambles!
We were shite mate especially that muppet of a goalie,we never had one decent goalie in the 70s
Although I am a Evertonian I must admit that Liverpool had some great players that day. Kevin Keegan, Ray Clemence, Emlyn Hughes and Clive Thomas to name a few.😂
Terrible mistake by Clive Thomas , you have to feel for Everton here.
Liverpool the darlings of the FA have always got the decisions and this is just another example of many. Unlucky Everton you deserved to win!
Absolute shite. Manchester Utd have always been the darlings of the FA and the media. Even when they were relegated and during the years when they hardly won anything the media still loved them. Liverpool FC has always been despised by the FA and media.
For years the FA have been made up of Liverpool fans, ex Liverpool people and the like. They used their influence in 1985 to have ALL English clubs banned from Europe when the particular incident ONLY involved Liverpool. Over the years there have been numerous incidents when the FA have thrown the book @ any and every incident involving Utd whereas even racism was almost turned a blind eye to by the PL and the FL when their beloved Liverpool were involved. Indeed as recently as last season a Liverpool player was found GUILTY of taking drugs. Was he banned for life? Were the games he took part in replayed or the points given to the opposition?......Were they fuck as like. Alternatively Rio only missed a drugs test and was banned for 8 months!!!!!!!!!!!!! Typical. United treated like shit whereas the FA's darlings Liverpool get off scot free. Even the courts are in on it. How else can we explain a video of Slippy G knocking the shite out of a DJ with his 10 mates behind him and he gets an acquittal within 30 mins??? Always been the same. It fuckin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neutral Observer. why should sakho be banned for life? should never had been banned in the first place.
he used a drug which burns fat. Whether it's a banned drug or not it's a performance enhancer. When you consider some players get banned for a season for missing a test it seems very strange that a player who is found guilty of taking a fat burner is allowed to play immediately after finding that this particular drug wasn't on a banned list. One law for everyone else apart from FA darlings Liverpool.
It's not funny at all! if it's not on the banned list it is fine to take. Any other player on any other team would of been treated the same. Fact is the player was treated badly and missed out on playing in Euros when he had done nothing illegal.
Still makes me sick to this day, never offside, never a handball...
great game, mcdermotts goal was sublime... oh and the pitch was awesome, could you see todays namby pambys playin on that
I was behind the goal. Everton defenders were constantly going forwards to get out of the mud. Look at the goal again. The game should not have been played.
The pitch was "awesome" if you like agricultural football.
Motson was on about the linesman's flag up for offside. No flag went up. I was there at that end. The replay was clear it was not offside. Motson could see that in the replay so why did he say it was offside?
Because Motson was a Prat , imho the worse commentator on tele in the 70's 80's 90's and 00's . Barry Davis miles better
Motson was making an assumption because, like the rest of us, he couldn't see why it was disallowed either.
@@markaustin5543 He shouldn't assume.
Referee has the right to call offside regardless of whether or not the linesman has flagged. But that said the decision {incorrectly} was handball. Emlyn Hughes did say on match of the seventies that years later Clive Thomas admitted his mistake but shortly after broadcasting the BBC were forced to make a grovelling apology after receiving a threat of legal proceedings.
Everton has the best supporters in the UK
Is that before or after they were rioting at Millwall in January last year?
@@martinodoni8943 before and after. And you are stupid
@@hariwyngriffith3401 you smell bitch
@@LEONIDA1899 you globby bucket of stinking chip oil!
@@hariwyngriffith3401 you're a legend
Amazing Clive Thomas managed to referee a World Cup Final as some of his decisions in FA Cup big matches were verging on embarrassing. He certainly didn't like Bryan Hamilton that's for sure, what many people don't know apart from ruling out this perfectly good goal 2 years earlier he ruled out 2 goals for Ipswich in the semi-final replay against West Ham and guess who scored or didn't score them?...
I should say officiated in World Cup Finals (74, 78)...amazed he got to those heady heights, mixed him up with Jack Taylor.
Thomas made a very dodgy decision in the Dutch v Czechoslovakia semi final 76, which he admitted years later, should have been a foul on Cruyff, which he never blew for and the Czechs scored from that incident.
What amazing football...!!!! Not only Beatles's music, but good football...
That ball by. Case for McDermott class
the biggest robbery since the 1963 train robbery. 8 years after this referee thomas walked out at Goodison to a crescendo of boos and abuse. Everton fans never forget
The biggest robbery since the 1975 European Cup final when Leeds were robbed by the cheating ref and Franz Beckenbauer. That's why you'll hear us singing we are the champions champions of Europe. We won it but not officially.
I'm sure Clive the Book Thomas had the last Laugh like he had 8 years earlier at Maine Rd
What a great game, when football was played by men and not the fairies that play today and dive every 2 mins.
Right!!
No tattoos.
Everton. Massive. 💙
Great game in awful conditions but Everton were robbed by our friend Mr Thomas.
I'm a West Ham and Celtic fan but Everton WERE robbed in that game!!
Justice was done in the final though!
@@Martrex296 bollocks
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
Phil Neal played Hamilton onside
Look at the amount of Liverpool in the Platt Lane...supposedly the Everton end.
In this days merseyside fans often mixed. You can even see clips of Everton fans celebrating goals on the Kop end.
I think Thomas disallowed Hamilton's goal for either offside (don't forget in those days level was offside) or more likely handball. Hard to tell for sure because you didn't have all the camera angles we have now, but it looked like he knocked it in with his hand.
Handball - as other posts testify.
Hit his hip ya fookin dickheads.
I remember he sorted of chested it or hit his midriff it was never handball
Never handball or offside. The linesman admitted in an interview years later that Thomas said it was offside, linesman said he was clearly on, so Thomas said hanball, we have to get our stories straight. Man was a cheat.
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I would not have liked to been responsible for cleaning those kits.
The great Clive Thomas. In the pantheon of top referees he’s up there with Collina.
😀
Brilliant that..
Clive thomas disallowed that goal v opponents....liverpool....and then allowed an offside goal by ....liverpool in the 1981 lcf
That's because the count was a closet red.
I wonder what the Everton player said to the referee at the end.
Offside! Get real. There were two Liverpool players in front of him. Inexplicable.
Imagine Messi or Ronaldo playing on a pitch like that!!!!!! They´d be crying for Mummy...
They wouldn't want to go out onto the pitch in case they got their nice clean kit dirty. And then there's dirt under their nails. 🤣
Neymar too.
exactly what is it you've seen in messi that suggests he is a tart?
Messi grew up playing on some atrocious pitches back in Argentina,
Everton was robbed
Were
As usual. LFC the shame of the Merseyside
@@LEONIDA1899 EFC the whiners of Merseyside. Everton have had plenty of wrong decisions go in their favour down the decades, including against Liverpool, and I've yet to hear a single Everton fan (the so-called "best supporters in the UK") even have the maturity to admit when it happens. But they still bang on and on and on and ON AND ON about a questionable handball decision over 40 years later. That's not good support, that's just living in the past.
@@martinodoni8943 shut up dick
Worst than cars nicked?
Which stadium is It ?
Maine Road, Man City's old ground.
Could only be Maine Road. Usually was a choice for two North West Clubs
Are you thicko?
Every team has had incidents like this...The truly great teams motor on. Just sayin' how it is. They were robbed on the day though. Very sad.
Hamilton’s goal should have stood and iam a Liverpool fan
I was at this game with my brother who was an Evertonian then we went to a Kevin keegan night in Dorchester and keegan said to my brother when he was sat with Emlyn Hughes and Emlyn said to Kevin Everton were robbed but we knew you won't get a second chance.
When football was a man’s game
I'd like to see today's prima donna players on a pitch like that.
Why?... The standard lf football is waaaay better on todays pitches.
11:39 is the infamous incident.
The past was pathetic in so many ways. Can you imagine Man City these days not even having a heavy roller at their disposal. Instead they had an old man with a shovel and his apprentice watching on. By the way, I was at the other semi that day between Leeds and Man U in Sheffield and I don't recall a drop of rain all day in fact as I recall, it was a quite a nice day.
Yes, people harping on about the past as if everything was perfect. It wasn't. Shocking pitches, rampant racism and homophobia....
A year later Clive Thomas made a total fool of himself on the world stage.
Yep Brazil v Sweden 😳
LOL "...both goalkeepers are wearing gloves.." It's amazing to think that goalkeepers used to go out there bare handed up until the 1980's before the rulings changed. Tough, brave men. It was bad enough in the school playground being in goal bare hands
It's not a ruling! A goalkeeper doesn't have to wear gloves!
Robbed that day no offside and the ball com. off Hamilton's hip into the net .
What is John Motson banging on about....... offside??
I think he was just as baffled as everyone else about how it could be invalid.
Motson was generally clueless... Bless his soul.... Barry Davies was always the far better and more informed commentator, and it's scandalous how often he was overlooked in favour of Motty for the big games
i remember this well it was a bit of a sticky toffee pudding of a pitch and yes i think that everton were robbed by the referee
Clive Thomas always did like to be the centre of attention. There have been a few others like that since then and it makes you a bad referee.
One of many dodgy Derby decisions against Everton over the years.
I remember he gave it as handball but it was chested in great game an atmosphere mind
Battered them in the replay. Clive Thomas was an excellent ref. great spot of that snide handball.
amazing how decisions by referee in this game still go against us even to this day cheating at its highest order
Clive Thomas used to send out Xmas cards to family and friends that featured a photo of himself. He thought he was bigger than Jesus. So football matches had to be all about him.
We drew 3-2!😂 ynwa
everton were robbed by Thomas but Jim Pearson's hair is great!
The problem with Clive Thomas was that it had to be all about him, and Everton paid the price for that on that day.
I am a Liverpool fan and it is true..Everton were lucky to get a draw and we even had to play on a "Goodison" type pitch
Come now! It's not liverpools fault....................................................it never is!
big semis liv v eve and utd v leeds
If VAR was in use in the 70s and 80s the redshite would have won sod all.
And when var is in use...it helps us win everything lol. There's an old saying...losers us excuses
We were the best team in EUROPE...let alone England you bitter twat.
Sir Clive Thomas best referee ever.
If you like incompetent cheats, then fine.
You are mental
Defo handball, right decision ref. Great game, how football should be. I loved those days of mud, blood & some of the best footie ever. Real football for real fans. YNWA
Hit his hip ya clown.
@@gazrev7671 Hey Gary, I was being sarcastic you muppet. We were lucky that day but still the best team of the era. YNWA
@@Warriorant1 yeah generally though you don't get to FA Cup Finals on the basis of being the 'best team of the era'. You got to this one on the basis that this referee needed to leave the pitch having had more of an impact on proceedings than any player.....
Robbed yet again did not think this could get any worse until I saw the Hanson hand ball at Wembley.
Lawson darracot mcnaught Lyons Pearson hamilton,we were never going to beat them.l was there we did play ok but liverpool had the better chances.
Mile on and Thomas admitted it later. Cheats always prosper.
Dai Xaives should of been in Goal Dai Davies should of been in GOAL
I was right behind that goal sitting in that stand - it was 90% Liverpool fans. If I could zoom in strong enough I would be visible on the TV. The goal was legal without doubt as Thomas has confirmed since. On the day Everton battered them - they were rattled. How Liverpool scored two I don't know. When Ronnie Goodlass was running down the left wing I stood up shouting -"common on Ronnie"._ The ball was crossed to Hamilton I glanced to the linesman to my left - no flag. Hamilton scored with his hip. No Liverpool fan around me complained having a perfect view, like me. They were subdued with the few Evertonians in the stand cheering making a racket with the noise of the Evertonians in the Kippax deafening. No Liverpool players protested. Thomas disallowed the goal, with all the Liverpool fans around me asking themselves why was it disallowed. No one knew. Everton continued the onslaught after with no goal coming. Another thing about the game that was odd, was that the pitch was waterlogged. Heavy rain before the game which stopped just before the kick off. There was pools in the goalmouths. The groundsmen came on the pitch with forks _after_ the players had come on the pitch, while they were doing the kick about, which was very odd. You can see them at 0:47 for a minute or so. Like they wanted the pitch to be too wet - being instructed so. The groundsmen could have been on the pitch half an hour or so before the players came out, when the rain eased off. Liverpool's first goal was because Everton's goalie, Lawson, was too far out being lobbed. He was too far out as he did not want to be stuck in the mud and pools in the goalmouth. He was making it clear by his movements that he was avoiding the mud patch throughout the first half. I was only yards away from him.
Brilliant analysis, absolutely fascinating. Yes, a terrible terrible decision, not corrupt I think, just over confident and plain wrong.
"Everton battered them"....eeeerrrrr - no ya never, we had the best of it until the final ten minutes. The fucking myths your fanbase come up with is astonishing.
@@stel3209 Everton *battered* them at times. I was there. You must not make things up. _"Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong""_
@@johnburns4017 "I was there" - so what? so was I. You never, ever "battered" us at any stage. You had a good spell for 5 minutes - that's all. Is there anything your demented fanbase don't have myths about. I was in the Kippax next to our stand - there's no way you had 10% - handfuls at the most....we had 70% of the Platt Lane as well, which was supposedly the Everton end. Yet another Everton myth - about the make up of our city. No "tourists" there that day and we well outnumbered ya.
@@stel3209 wrote: _"You never, ever "battered" us at any stage."_ ♦ Emlyn Hughes thought Everton battered them. Do you know he played for Liverpool? And played in that game? ♦ I was in the stand - about 10% Evertonians. Platt Lane was 60-40. Evertonians. ♦ Most noise was from the Evertonians. I was there. *You must stop making things up.*
Comentators never understood a shit about the rules, imagine that goal rulled out for offside. My goodness, could never be on 1st place and clearly it was hand ball
Everton should have won.this game(
we were robbed, again
Always the same old story Everton were robbed of a legitimate goal
Keegan was far a better player than McKensie
Hamilton was offside anyway ees a bluenose and they shouldn't av won anyway
Please read the comments on here.
Bastards got away with it 🤬
a inglaterra das antiga era foda
This means The old England fuck???
@@craigeast3682 "old england was awesome"
We was robbed...
Good decision to disallow the Everton goal ... Liverpool should have won easy they had many chances to make it 3-1
Liverpool getting dodgy decisions from refs in their favour. 43 years ago and not much has changed lol
Correct. They always got strange decisions throughout the 70's and 80's and since the Premier League began in 1992 no club has been awarded more penalties than Liverpool. It stinks !!!
Lawson was a disastrous goalie one of the worst in our history.
Virtually no real scousers in the Liverpool end. All from shitty Southport,St Helens,Runcon etc. Also Tories won the 1977 local elections on Merseyside to the disgust of Everton fans.
Robbed
Justice was done. The right team won. Strange that we lost to a shit Man utd side in the final, though. Still, being League and European Champions wasn't a bad end to the season.
You've still never won "THE Treble" yet though ;-) That "shit" Man Utd side stopped you from becoming THE Treble winners and you would have been the first to do so back in 1977!!! ps. Shame for Everton that day. ROBBED!!!!
What does the European cup, League champion's & League cup winners equal then? 15 years before 99.
@BadAcid On the day Everton were by far the better team.
@@johnburns4017 myth...you had the last 5-10 minutes...
Never mind a doubting Thomas how about a cheating Thomas
Everton getting robbed by refs against liverpool. Nothing changes lol
Clive cheating thomas
see my above comment
Plonker Clive Thomas
This was at maine road manchester city ... before city became a plastic mercenary club
When they were shite
Clive Thomas the first of a long line of red shite referees who done Everton over.
I was at this game got drenched bricked outside from afar by Manc shithouses and robbed by the redshite fan thomas,went back on the Wednesday got twatted 3 0 and got bricked again loads of fun being a blue.
Fuck me...the hypocrisy of Evertonians is breathtaking. VVD was maimed at Goodison this year and some Reds are (obviously) still pissed off with it. The bitters are squealing "Going on about that weeks after - what's wrong with ya"!!!!!.....yet here they are 43 (FORTY THREE!) YEARS later still crying about this handball....fucking move on!
Coming from the fans known for. Always the victims never your fault
@@saradrugi6760 that is exactly my point you dhead - we get called it - yet you squeal about decisions from 45 years ago!!!
robbed...by a cheating ref......
Everton where robbed...clive thomas,the ref was as bent as a 9 bob note