How to correct a slide on an icy road (and how to prevent them) - Winter driving education
2016 ж. 16 Қаз.
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Educational winter driving video about preventing dangerous vehicle slides on icy roads, and what to do if one happens. Learn what to do when icy roads threaten and how to correct an oversteer slide. Includes videos of actual accidents captured on camera. Learn more at icyroadsafety.com Copyright Dan Robinson. Music licensed from Music Bakery.
For those that would like to see the example clips shown at the end without pauses, here is the original footage: kzhead.info/sun/hN2CZNGirHmphH0/bejne.html
Dan Robinson the cast stone 7:52 should have applied the brakes very lightly in-between the corrections while the car hand a few moments of going in a straight line... But he never decreased speed at all ! so ended in the wall.
"with higher speeds the more likely you are to loose control due to ice" This isn't technically correct, speed alone does not cause wrecks in any circumstance. However when you are going faster, the time that is required to react to sudden changes in road conditions reduces. This is what causes most wrecks that involve speeding and ice. Slower is often better when conditions can change drastically without warning.
I think there is a reaction time factor, but the bigger difficulty is that the faster you're going, the harder it is to control your car. Most people don't understand the physics of it, so it's challenging, especially because the difficulty increases exponentially based on your speed..
Great video. I always say the most fun I ever had on the road was driving an Ambulance on snow. Never got above 30-40mph though - crashes are always slower than driving slowly.
2nd driver in Volkswagen 10:02 was my aunt
I have lived in snowy areas and driven on icy roads all my life, and still found this video helpful. When you slow down on icy roads people tend to start honking at you. Let them honk. Never drive faster than you feel safe.
i always ignore that scumbags sometimes you can slow down more, if they need they will overtake you and you might see how they slide :D
Drive as fast as you’re comfortable, AND stay in the slow lane (if applicable)
@@wolfganggunterberger5718 why don't you counter stear? Swang it? If you turn into the slide you do a full 360
It's always the subarus and mustangs
Try that in massachusetts see how well that goes for you 🤣
This is lowkey a how to drift video.
I ain't complaining
On ice!
how to drift "legally" sorry officer I lost traction for a minute
That's why I'm watching
hahahah
One thing that’s import to mention is the timing of correction in addition to being careful not to overcorrect. As soon as you feel the rear slipping out, you need to react and react proportionly. Being prepared for the oscillation is key and it's important to start turning the wheel back BEFORE the next oscillation. If you wait until the car snaps back in the other direction to start steering, it might be too late.
You also want to push the throttle just slightly to shift more weight to the rear but not too much
We had to practice this in order to get my license. Braking and correcting slides on slippery surfaces. Its very fun to try when it is in controlled circumstances. Another thing in general when driving in icy conditions is to check your grip periodically. Just tap the brakes in a clear area and feel what kind of grip your got. And also kinda knowing what your vehicle is capable of. I actually like playing around in snowy conditions and always spends the first day of snow drifting a little bit when the roads are empty and unsalted. I helps build habits to get that instinctive reaction to correcting slides. Because the quicker you can correct a slide, the higher your chances of succes become, and not overcorrecting to much is also important and is something you have to get muscle memory to do well at.
Check grips periodically is exactly what I do each time before I drive out of my cul-de-sec and on the road which my wife can't understand and does not agree.
"We had to practice this in order to get my license" I wish it could be the same in more countries...Danish Licence ? Sveden ? Here in France, i had the luck to make some "car handling" training in a dedicated center ; wet glassy surfaced corners and others funny things ^^ Very helpful (to say the least) when i later had to face emergency situations !
Interesting to learn that was on your driving test! Being from the southern US, we definitely don’t get enough snow or ice for it to be required but I wonder if it is for any northern states. The information is invaluable regardless and that lack of requires education (and testing) is exactly what brings me here to this video. Solid advice about periodically checking your grip as well. Should you also do the same in wet & stormy conditions?
@@lifeinmn I mean every time you leave the house seems pretty unnecessary, but yea good to check periodically
Where is this. Which country has this requirement for license. In canada we don’t have this wish it was there
Tips for driving in icy conditions: Slow down. No, slow down more. No, even more slowly... Don't let the people around you dictate at what speed your driving.
ok at some point you're going dangerously slow
Don't be cocky. That's the number one thing I've seen with bad drivers or just anybody who thinks they can do something only to end up killing themselves.
But go too slow and you’ll get stuck lol
eurosonly no you just don’t know how to drive lmao
When u slowing down but that one truck driver always getting so close...
Me: *Driving during a blizzard *Car starts to slide Me: *Pulls up this video
quickly put the car in 2nd or 3rd gear, turn the wheel hard and floor it
@@mirkomargiste2366 fwd intensifies
@@Kinkese Agreed peoples most common reaction from the guilty conscious of driving too fast for conditions is to let the foot off the gas. Even if they do not apply the brakes this will cause them to spin out of control. I loathe front wheel drive cars.
LOL - not.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The scariest driving I’ve ever experienced was the first blizzard of the year in Denver last year. People were going anywhere between 15 and 70 mph on the highway in the dark of night and snow covering all of the lane markers. Thank you for educating those who never needed to know this information until now. No judgement. Just drive safe!
Here in Sweden I bought my first car in November last year. It was a sunny day, no snow that winter yet. On my way back home, all of a sudden a blizzard begins. It was one of the snowiest days ive ever witnessed, and it went from 0 to 100 real quick. The worst part is the car was still on summer tires. Had to drive home in first/second gear in anything between 5 to max 20mph on a 70 mph highway. And even at such low speeds, the car wanted to slide every now and then + braking distance noticably increased. Saw one person switching tires on the side of the road at one point.
Denver traffic is insane. I used to have a friend who lived down that way and I hated driving through the city on the highway. Even at 11 PM on a weekday (when I'd choose to arrive in order to avoid traffic) there were still cars in all lanes and some people weaving in and out through the traffic because they were that impatient.
@@IstasPumaNevadaand it used to be so great! Denver had super curious drivers until Californians started pouring in.
I just spun out in north Denver this AM and there was barely any snow - very deceiving! Luckily I didn’t hit anyone or anything cause it was early AM but still very scary
Unfortunately, you cant educate some people. There are so many careless drivers that will never listen to reason. They should stay off the roads !
I live in a tropical country. We don't have icy roads but have lots of muddy slippery roads when it rains. I've found that the same driving techniques apply when correcting slides on muddy roads. Thks!
When you have to watch this because your school won’t call a snow day
When they wouldn't do that I'd do donuts in the parking lot just to spite them. 😂
@@cmoney0129 beast😂😂💯
Me too hun
Bella M school?? Try work
Bella M welcome to canada
it is also proven that if you are listening eurobeat when the car starts to oversteer you have higher chance of turning it into a sweet drift
KANSEI DORIFTO?!
I was hoping I'd see a comment like this
Then you crash
Lol even in my truck im sliding around at 70
Robert Lataoan it depends. If you drive a modern car with abs and traction control, which is actually more dangerous. Then yeah. Since you can't spin, and lock the tires as you please, you'll end up snap oversteering since you can't send enough power to the rear wheels... (Oh wait most cars are fwd anyway) but if you drive an ae86 (back when the Toyota Corolla was an actual car) then you can pull off drifts ez and do whatever.
Yes, this was a helpful video. As my parents put it 40 years ago when I was learning to drive, if the car hydroplanes or slides on ice, immediately take your foot off the gas, do not brake, and turn into the slide. Obviously it's unsettling to feel the car start to "float" while driving, but if you keep your cool - and you're not driving too fast - you can manoeuver through it.
Absolutely
I noticed he doesn't mention to take your foot off the gas...thats as important as how go correct the spin.
Great video. While not braking is important, it's also important to ease off the gas and not lift suddenly. Suddenly lifting off the gas causes a forward weight transfer. Forward weight transfer means more weight (and thus traction) on the front wheels and less on the rear... NOT what you want to happen when you're already in an oversteer situation. Excellent point about coming off ice and onto dry or salted pavement. That sudden change of friction can make it difficult for even an experienced driver to recover from a slide, as the car can react violently when the tires suddenly gain traction mid-correction. Performance driving school is expensive, but go anyway! Practicing slide recovery in a controlled setting could save your life someday.
Yeah, the interplay of suspension is also a 'gotcha', when the compressed springs let go and bounces your car the other way.
Thanks to this, I was able to correct a slide after hitting my first ever icy patch on the road, completely saved my life and my car
Same here!
My parents got mad at me when they found out, but on the first snow day after I had gotten my drivers license a few friends and I went to a large wide open parking lot to learn how to drive on ice and snow. We taught ourselves how to straighten out from fishtails and spinouts. Years later I was travelling about 85 mph on 270 and came upon a patch of standing water that caused my car to hydroplane. I spun like a top for four full revolutions but was able to regain control and not wreck because I did nothing at first, no brake, no steer. I waited until I could feel the momentum was low enough to allow correcting. Any attempt to correct the first few revolutions would have most likely changed my overall direction of momentum and sent me into a jersey barrier on one side of the other. I knew that the first thing was to keep my momentum in the original direction of travel where there were no barriers or obstructions.
Grab the E break and just roll with it
😂
@sly dankass sure but please stop using your cellphone while driving. It’s not just yourself you’re making the road unsafe for. It’s everyone else around you. Using you phone while driving is worse than, driving tired or drinking.
"If it hasn't...IT WILL" "No not really, I chose to live in Florida" lol
Ok so it doesn't rain in Florida?
Do you ever leave Florida lol . Northern Fl can get some ice during the winter not often but it happens. An Ty is correct the same driving skills apply to rain and hydroplaning .
Well played🤣🤣
Maybe live on the 🌞. :)
yeah with alligators robbing ur house and mosquitos kidnapping ur family lmao
Started drifting on snow about a year ago and honestly that helped me so much control my vehicle and know what it can do, in fact yesterday i was driving slow on an icy snow covered road, when suddenly it started drifting, instinctivly i corrected it and was back on my lane without even thinking. I would suggest to anyone to try out drifting or doing donuts in winter on an empty parking lot, it will benefit you a lot
I practiced this maneuver on a large empty icy packing lot . This really helped me out when I had to use this maneuver in real-time. Front wheel, four wheel and rear wheel drive vehicles behave totally different at least from my experience. The four wheel drive vehicle's braking distance isn't any better than the two wheel drive cars .
Of course. All cars have four-wheel brakes.
@@MatejaMaric try hitting your brakes on wet road with clutch engaged and disengaged. Is stopping distance the same? AWD helps in same way - helps prevent wheel lock's, but on all wheels. Issue is that effect is about order of magnitude weaker than effect AWD have on acceleration and handling, so you really easy end up driving faster than you should.
When I first got my license many years ago, I was always told to do this because I have winter driving phobia (still do today, as both a driver and passenger), the first time I attempted this, I got pulled over. Tried this maneuver a few winters later, got pulled over again. Lol. Never tried after this. I got pulled over immediately both times, two different empty parking lots. 20+ years later, as a Michigander, I still don't know how to drive in winter weather. I follow all the rules to the T, but never been able to figure it out.
@@MissBliss818 sounds like you should move to where the cops are less stupid
AWD/4WD vehicles, when equipped with a torque limiting differential, can regain traction somewhat faster than FWD/RWD vehicles. But one definitely must not rely on that.
I find this very fascinating. Living in Australia, I haven't even touched snow and never been on an icy road. All you drivers have my deepest respect. Stay safe. Susan
Here in North Italy we have 4 months of ice, so yes, i drive a Subaru for a reason
It's not really difficult. The biggest thing is just to slow way down. If the speed limit says 60 and everyone's doing 60, you're way below what the car's capable of. In the ice, the equivalent speed limit might be 10-20 mph (if it was actually posted), but people tend to do 30-40 mph and it causes issues. It's especially bad because a lot of people drive on summer or all-season tires then try to keep up with people on proper snow tires. I've driven mid-engine, rear-wheel drive vehicles with summer tires through the ice and it's still not difficult. You just have to slow down even more. The biggest danger there is if you're doing 15 mph when everyone else is doing 45 mph. Or if you try to go down a 10% grade with no grip.
I tend to slide out pretty easy in Mexico
Chicago... many years.
Canada. TOKYO DDDDRRIIIIIIFFFFTTTTT type beat 8 out of 12 month 😂
im honestly AMAZED at how these things arent taught in driving school. like every driver should know this not just for their own safety but for the safety of others. you never think itll happen to you until it does. and it WILL. happened to me in the rain but thank the lord no cars tboned me while i was gliding and thank god there was just grass on the shoulder
In drivers ed at school they did teach this kind of stuff, at least at my school.
I think in many driving schools it is taught, but without putting it into practice it is forgotten. Like trigonometry.
it is thought on how to drive in the winter. ETc - winter tires, chains (or however it is called on EN), but if u take your exam during summer there won't be any ice for u to practice
I live in the desert so we were never taught this. Now I'm here trying to learn!
It’s in the driver’s manual tho
What I've experienced living in an area with a lot of rain and snow is this: The most uncertain grip conditions are right around freezing point when the road is wet but some patches of ice can appear, or when the road seems dry but it's cold enough for black ice to be present. Your appropriate speed is the amount of steering angle your car will tolerate before beginning to slide. In corners, find that limit and don't exceed it, your speed varies accordingly; in a straight line, turn from left to right while gradually gaining speed: as soon as that movement becomes uncomfortable, you know you've reached the limits of straight line grip. Roads that are covered in snow are easy to read thanks to the grip levels being roughly consistent. Smooth ice is impossible to drive on unless you have studded tires
Learning how to drift in AC actually saved me once from an oversteer slide. Instincts kicked in and tbh it was a fun experience 😂
Every single thing this guy says is 100 percent accurate. This is an amazing teaching video. I drive an 18 wheeler and have personally tried all techniques in this video over the past 5 years of driving the country and they all worked for me and have kept me from wrecking out many times. Literally, do not panic. Steer into it. It'll straighten itself back out.
Sadly this is not true, many people will not have the feel to do this, much rather use the ABS and traction control of your car. They are there for a reason.
@@010falcon Oh, but it is. Anti-lock brakes are great in many conditions. But they are not a fix everything cure. The worst thing you can do during a slide is hit your brakes. You first must get your car under control again. Then you can try braking. I grew up in Mass. Dad took us to a large empty parking lot with lots of snow to have us practice. I have had many a slide but have been able to correct from the slide by doing exactly what the video shows. Black ice is also fun. But if you don't panic you can even get past that. Driving too fast for conditions is the problem. I'd see folk in their 4x4 fly by me in the passing lane to then later find them out in the median strip from sliding off the road. I'd wave and laugh at them as I drove by.
I had a high horsepower rear wheel drive mustang where the back end would kick to one side or the other if you accelerated too hard in too low of a gear, even on dry pavement. I learned really fast that most of the time when you feel the back end begin to slip, simply taking your foot off the gas can be enough to correct before total loss of traction. Whereas once you hit the brakes you've lost any remaining traction and ability to steer or control speed. Same with steering. Sometimes if you just let the steering wheel and wheels find their own path, they'll correct for you. I always loosen my grip and give the wheels a chance to pull in the direction they want to go before attempting to steer myself out of a spin.
@sly dankass I disagree. I drive an AWD manual and the engine will brake harder than I would with the clutch and slightly touching the brake pedal. However I've never slid out in my car I keep good tires on it and drive for the conditions. I did slide in my sister's Ford AWD but she had 70K miles on those tires (the ones that came with the car) but the traction control saved me I think. It was all less than 2 seconds.
@@010falcon locking up the brakes is only one way things can go wrong in slick conditions. Wheels don't have to lock in order to lose traction. Simple pressure differences between wheels can break traction. Tapping anti lock breaks in a turn can break traction.
I used to go to empty ice lots with my buddies all the time and have drifting sessions. Made me incredibly good with ice. And my baby sister just got her license, im taking her with us for her first winter. She’ll need it haha
How did she do?
@@Rohgamu She died
BMW ftw. Good man. I am running summer tires on my BMW this winter. Makes things more challenging.
Lol
hellcat this a srt
What a helpful video! This is the first winter I had to drive (with my children in the car), and it's been super stressful. This video really helped me to understand some things because he shows many examples, and I can visually understand it in my mind. Hope this video helps many more!
I swear this video be poppin every winter every year 🤣 never goes away
Most people have a heart attack when they slide in winter. A Canadian drifts the corner while sipping a coffee and smiles.
Gilbert McGillicutty I just had to do that this morning in my truck, I was sipping on a tim's Christmas special white hot chocolate.
As a nothern michigander i can say we do the same.
***** True it doesn't work as well for semis
***** Patience is key, if you get chewed out for being late all ya gotta say is would ya rather me crash and not get there at all? If the highway is sheer ice i wouldn't go more than maybe 40 in a semi. 45 in a car.
***** Exactly picturing it in your head and going it are two completely different things. Just continue to be safe out there when there's ice even if you're havin a bad day.
I've always heard "turn into the slide" before and thought it was counter-intuitive. I thought it meant if you're sliding to the left, turn left, so I intended to go against my instincts if this happened to me. Watching this video I can see it's referring to the direction of the BACK of the vehicle, not the front, which means my instincts were correct and I would've been in trouble in a slide. So thanks, this video was a big help! And people who are explaining this to others really need to specify BACK of the vehicle when describing the movement!
Agreed, better to call it countersteering
I have always remembered it as keep the fronts wheels pointing at where the car is going/sliding. If you can keep the front wheels from loosing grip (e.g. flip it into neutral) with the road you can control the slide and let the car lose enough speed to regain rear traction.
The worse thing is that most people just know the phrase and don't know what it actually means. Also, presumably this phrase came from the fact that the back of your car is likely to slide to the right when making a left, and vice-versa, so it really means to turn the wheel the opposite to what you were just doing, but don't over correct or hit the brakes either when doing it. I agree with you that if the back of my car was sliding to the right, intuition would be to turn the wheel right, but people would likely panic and either do nothing or hit the brakes which is probably why turning into the slide became a common phrase after each accident.
If you are driving a manual transmission car remember to also press down the clutch since this will give better traction to the wheels
Absolutely. I think it's very easy to misunderstand the phrase turning into the slide. Exactly what you said it's turn in the direction the back of your vehicle is going. Good clarification.
Great stuff Dan. I hate when I got into these situations in the past. It's not a nice feeling. But one has to respond just well enough. Then you never know what the end will be when you hit icy road. 45 MPH is way too high. And best advice I give myself is "Stay home." Great video for 5 and 8 hours defensive driving course and points reduction. Bring more vids. Thanks.
Thank you and God bless you for this. I may be driving for the first time in my life in snow and I’m getting scared. Thank you for taking your time to show and explain all of this. This could be life saving
Most important point: switch to winter tires in winter.
I’ve been fine with all weather tires as well. My current car I have (2001 Dodge Durango) is far better for the winter than my previous two cars and this is my first 4WD car. I always slow down extra anyway but since I have 4WD, I know I’m a bit safer. However, if I begin to slide I let off the gas and not brake so that I can correct it easier.
@@lakerskid2013 that's how you do it drive it with the throttle
Wait even with winter tires they slide right? (I'm not being sarcastic I genuinely want to know) I have a car but I'm a new driver and this is my first winter. I did install winter tires but still didn't want to drive unless I know how to handle the car.
@@h.ar.2937 yes, they will slide
@@h.ar.2937 Yes, they are way better in snow and slush but for black ice nothing but spikes will help all that much.
In Norway to get a driver's license you have to do a mandatory course in driving on slippery road
same in Sweden.
That's pretty cool.
That's actually a great idea, if you live somewhere that cold it could save your life
Thats because there is way more snow in scandinavia
same in Estonia.
I watched this video years ago and practiced a little in an empty lot when I lived a place with snow and ice for ~2 years. Today it saved me totaling my car. Applied too much power in a turn, lost back traction due to water on the road. Corrected it smoothly, and safely.
Best video on how to drive in icy conditions. I've rewatched this several times to refresh my memory
If it ever snowed in Los Angeles the city would be paralyzed, folks here can't drive in the rain let alone snow or ice.
That's why bad drivers need to stay off the roads. This includes those that drive in snow regularly every year.
Lol, come to Portland. Oregonians can't drive in the rain and snow. And we get both.
UnknownDev that's because most of them are originally from LA LOL
Bad Kitty No Milk Tonight It was so horrible on Wednesday.
chrisgast They aren't horrible drivers it's just that California barely gets rain
Learning how to drift actually helps, specially in Canada!
Ice has no friction coefficient unlike asphalt so think again!! Drifting!! That's funny!!! One is breaking friction to slide the other is no friction to stop sliding, yeah they're one in the same!! LOLOLOL!!!!
Matthew Fogarty ???
@ they are the same, they are just caused/initiated differently and have different speed angles. Drifting skills would help when slide happens so driver knows what to do, countersteer.
My advice is to get a QUATTRO with the right winter tires and drive it with the right speed. The satisfaction is fantastic. No joke or hard feelings. Hi to all!
Drifting in snowy conditions in a safe place can be really enjoyable; there were large parking lots around Tahoe where you could do so without any real danger. But you could also learn to avoid a 'drift' by correcting just enough for your butt to tell you that direction right there is where you and the car were going; nothing more required.
It's weird I've been in situations like this and other situations where someone else would have caused an accident or possibly took my life and basically just react without even thinking it happens that fast. But I truly appreciate you taking the time to put this video out there and you did a good job on doing so. Wishing you and your family a safe and happy holidays.
Thank you! This is a big blessing, I was always told there is nothing you can do when you loose control and start to slide but this video proves otherwise
Allright I'm ready to be a drifter now.
Jake Long lol that's what I got out of it too.
actually, this helps. since i'm a bit of an unpatient driver, i find it more comfortable somtimes to induce a slide, because then it's more clear as to what to do in this or that situation. apart from it feeling fun, it gives you a tiny bit more time to react. other than that, you learn all kinds of surfaces (and changes in them), and know what's up in advance. if i'm not in a slide, i'm alwais prodding the surface by giving it a tad bit more throttle than seems good for staying straight, just to have an idea as to what's going on.
i was expecting you :D
I do that too, theres a bent bridge at a highway intersection that is downhill, slippery and bumpy that I learned how to cross it and what speed it can take just by adding a bit of throttle when unsure about how much grip I have.
me too
This is such an important subject! I first got my license at the beginning of a Canadian north winter. Our dad drilled into us what to do and to my delight, when my first skid hit on a busy bridge I just automatically turned the wheels into it, even though that seemed like I was turning toward the opposite traffic. My skid stopped almost instantly and I headed on. Heart beating hard I realized how important it had been to mentally practice the move ahead of time. I wouldn't have had the time to think it out at that moment.
Hi hello, tnk u for sharing ur experience....i really wanted to apply ur technique here in manitoba but manybof the driver here dont dont want to reduce their speed lower than 100km per hour...but for me i want to make my speed only on 50 to 80km for my safety but many canadians advice to always follow the 100km. I hope that other canadians will also consider others to avoid slide. Can u give me some advice? Tnk u
@@darwincaguia6230 hello fellow Manitoba👋 drive in the city when you can, and avoid single lane highways when possible. 80 is pretty safe for *most drivers/vehicles on the hwy and I don't recommend doing 50kmh almost ever on the highway. If you're having to go that slow on the highway probably better to stay home. You can account for other drivers by driving more defensively and that's about it. Let people by you that want to and give yourself extra time :)
Watching this vid I just realized I was never taught any of this, but I still knew what to do when I started driving and was caught in my first slide. I think I must know how to from learning how to drift in car racing games when I was a kid, and then learning how to drift snowmobiles around corners on the trails. It's the same physics for all 3 situations. I honestly wish this was taught in driving schools, maybe with the use of a simulator for safety. There should also be a winter driving portion of the driver's test, it's ridiculous that there isn't considering most of us living in Canada have anywhere from 3-7 months of snow on the ground in a given year.
@@darwincaguia6230 I've definitely been in situations where I've had to go 50km or even lower on highways, but it's usually due to extreme whiteout conditions or heavy fog. And in those situations, everyone is going 50km, usually with their flashers on. I would say if you find yourself frequently going a lot slower than the flow of traffic that maybe you just need a bit more confidence with winter driving, and unfortunately that confidence usually doesn't come unless you get lots of practice. I would say definitely get some good quality snow/ice tires if you haven't already, and if possible drive a vehicle that has extra features for bad weather (4WD/AWD, traction control for wet/snowy conditions). Going to an empty parking lot to practice after a fresh snow is very important to get the 'feel' of what to do when your vehicle starts sliding, it really helps if your body instinctually knows what to do as soon as you start sliding. Also remember that you're very unlikely to start sliding if you're driving in a straight line, most of the danger comes from turning, stopping and hills. So just make sure before you encounter those things that you're going slow enough to do them safely. And in the event that you need to drive significantly slower than other drivers, make sure to move to the right lane and put your flashers on. Hope this helps a bit and drive safe! 😊
Practicing car control in a safe place can be super helpful as you know how your car will respond when you do lose traction.
I got in my first slide taking a left turn at an intersection some weeks ago. I was able to safely and successfully counter the oversteer and end the slide. Honestly, I gotta give that one to playing driving games. Knowing how to correct for oversteer in a video game prepared me to know what to do in a real-life situation.
This was such a well made video with all the actual sliding cars and how to correct. Thank you!
I did it 2 days ago, exactly as described in the video. Forced onto the side of the road by a plow on a death curve. Corrected instantly and slowed down. Saved us and our vehicle.
Good job bb hope you're okay
@@blockinglowtier ayo?
you didn't even get to flip it? even once? aww.
I force my car to lose control drifting is fun lol
well done
"If this doesn't happen to you, it will" Me, living in Arizona: *interesting*
I mean, I think you live in mid to southern AZ (Phoenix and south of) because the northern parts do get snow. There are even places in AZ that see snow every year, even several feet of it! But tbh, I thought the same thing as your comment until I looked it up lol.
Me, living in south Florida: doubtful
***me:moving back to Flagstaff, AZ but with a car this time. This is gonna be fun hahahaha
Sooo...
That's where it happened to me the first time.
Thanks, we haven’t really covered this in drivers ed. a few years ago, I was coming home from work on a snowy/icy night (I worked nights) and boss wouldn’t let us leave early because it was a Friday. I nearly ended up in a ditch going downhill on a 50 mph road with turns and twists. Somehow my car wasn’t even out of alignment or damaged but I did manage to miss a pole by maybe 6-9 inches. You are 100 percent correct when you say it’s a heart stopping feeling 😅
Years of sim racing on ice, snow and water has literally save me and my wife’s life. Before moving to the USA I barely had any real life snow and ice driving experience.
Best (or most useful) tutorial on youtube. This saved me last winter. I was driving on the highway during snow storm (yes I am an idiot for driving during a snow storm) and I zoned out and was driving at about 55 mph. I didnt mean to but it was a long drive and like I said, I zoned out. I started to slide and I was able to correct my slide using the rules of this video and every one was safe with no accident. Thank you for this video.
same for me today, then turned back to this video to be proud :)
It’s kind of commont sense
@@Matts_ahclimbing Common Sense is so rare today, its practically a SUPERPOWER!
Driving in a snow storm isn’t the IDIOT part, but doing 55mph was.. just sayin..
@@VengefulBatz Yes, also he says "everyone was safe". It's a shame if other drivers were in the car too.
*Flashback of Cars 1* Go right to go left. Go right to go left. Go right to go left.
That was the first thing that popped into my mind
Most underrated comment ever!!!
Program & Chill just like hard to port
Scandinavian flick for dummies lol
Cultured
Excellent video. Even experienced drivers should watch and rewatch every so often as a refresher. 👍
Thank you! I learned how to drive in Arizona but live in the snow belt now, and for whatever reason finding information on how to handle this online has been difficult! The visuals are extremely appreciated!
Everyone from Texas is watching this this weekend hahaha
Yea lol 😆
bro. seriously.
Yup
Just drifting on ice and snow. Put extra weight in box of pick-up.
This is a true statement lol
This is good information, everyone should find a big empty parkinglot to test this out in a safe environment. It can be fun and educational.
Yeah, icy parking lots can be a fun way to see how your particular vehicle will act in ice, but it's best if it is one without a lot of curbs or light poles. :) Ice is not fun on motorcycles though... Been there, done that, didn't even get out of the parking lot before it slid out from underneath me... :(
Fun and educational? I just came here from another comment section where I said "fun and educational" there. How coincidental.
@@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire could always try it on a bicycle! They're light enough you can counter steer properly
@@XenoTronusWeePoo850 maybe because fun and educational can be applied to many more things in life than we know.
In my country its mandatory to take a course on correcting slids and avoiding them
I’ve been driving for many years, but my state hasn’t seen snow or ice in a long time, I feel rusty. This video is very helpful.
Very useful for lots of drivers! Thanks Dan Robinson from ex-driving instructor from Canada-Ont.
Everyone in the comments are making light of it & I'm over here an anxious mess.
Because they have experience. I used to go to empty parking lots and drift my car in the snow. So I have that experience when things like this occur
My first snowfall without winter tires was terrifying I was an anxious mess and that was 2 weeks ago. A neighbor had to address me today for ripping around the crescent fast while he was walking up the crescent with his dog late night. He said I was driving like a maniac telling me about the icy conditions. I'm worried about it I want to be a respectable safe driver not some aloof reckless young driver, I need to fix my bad habits and formally apologize to said neighbor I feel really bad for having him worry for his own safety and my wellbeing it had me so upset afterwards. My commute isnt all that I'll have to be better when I commute longer distances we only get so many driving mishaps.
First winter in the midwest. I'm dyjng.😭
It's easy, you'll be fine. Go to empty parking lots and practice sliding
@@andrewmarcus8272 you havant failed,you just ended your darkness,by learning and understanding,people watching this video are at least on the right track
They should make the slippery road course mandatory everywhere where it snows as it is in most of Northern Europe, because no matter how much theory you listen, you will probably still panic when the car starts sliding under you for the first time. My father let me drive on frozen lakes already when i was 10 years old, so winter has always been fun drift season for me
Agreed.
Same here but I tought myself
in sweden it is
I practiced in an icey parking lot and then plenty of real world up and down the mountains.
Here in northern Sweden when snow comes, we go out to have some fun! It is funny to see videos from the south where they can't drive
So well explained and simple to understand, thank you. Drove 3 hours through the snowy mountains today and was going a bit too fast around a turn and lost it. Overcorreccted a bit, then far too much, hit the snowpack enclosing the highway And ended up facing the wrong way. No real damage and no other vehicles around luckily. I was not speeding but was definitely going too fast, gonna go slow and easy next time. At least that way if I do end up sliding it will not be as difficult to correct.
Thank you Dan! 31 below here in Wyoming tonite minus wind chill. Thank you again, learned alot here in Dec of 22
1:40 The light pole HAD to be there
Of course it did. Figure that the plan for the light pole being in that exact location, where a slide is very likely to happen, was drawn up intentionally with the knowledge that that pole would be hit frequently and need replacing frequently, thus affording a work crew good-paying winter work when there's otherwise nothing going on.
Guys, did GTA teach you nothing? That always happens
That’s EXACTLY what I was gonna say lol
Well, it’s gotta be somewhere.
I don't even know why I am watching this at 3:05 in the morning. I don't even live in a cold climate. I live in Hawai'i, like wtf?
You don't get any rain at all? Same principle applies.
chrisgast I get that, but at least the streets don't freeze over.
True.
Lookup hydroplaning. Same concept in rain
BUT if hydroplaning in a car with ABS you should hit the brakes hard, and you will stop. it's not the same with ice
Awesome video. Love the well-balanced mix between theory and practice. I personally managed to correct one instinctively once (aqua planning + probably some gas on the road), but the second one proved to be less of a success. 2 totaled car on a rainy day, but more fear than damage for the bodies... turned out that road had another accident in the same spot a few hours earlier, and many before that. Accidents mark the spirit, I have lost some confidence in myself, especially driving when it's raining... made me more cautious which is good but also too cautious sometimes. Drive safe! And beware of tiredness. Worst enemy of all.
This was everything an instructional video should be, just perfect. Thank you.💙💛💚
Have to say, that's the best tutorial of "How to correctly drive on Ice" was very informative. Thank You for taking the time to explain it.
He is right about the speed. But I'd suggest you to learn from a real professional instructor then learning some of the wrong techniques explained in this video.
Growing up in a small town in rural northern Ontario, I knew this practically out of the womb but this is a GREAT video for those who aren't used to this kind of thing. Very informative and well put together.
If only the other Ontario idiots would know this right?,.specially to slow down,.
It starts with speed, yep.
I drive the 401 daily to get to work. it is so scary watching people drive down the high way in the middle of a snow storm. People will fly in excess of 100km/hr in a dodge charger and think themselves invincible. I drive a pick-up, with 4x4 and snow tires and I barely go in excess of 70km/hr. I grew up driving nothing but RWD vehicles with no safety assists from traction control and abs... Its absolutely astonishing how de-sensitized south western ontarians are to snow/ice.
***** to be fair, my parents aren't, either. I think there's more to it than place of origin. Some people never grow into having common sense.
Taylor Lords is
Thank you for the information . Im moving from florida to Pennsylvania next year . Never have driven in snow or icy conditions .
Thanks, I need a refresher. We haven't had icey conditions for a few years but it's hit us big time now and is forecast to hang around a while.
When my Dad said "Steer into the skid" and tried to explain it after my crash on a wet road, I didn't understand it at all. But with the pictures, advice, and examples, I know what it means now. Thanks for this.
"turn into the slide" is the phrase that has caused the most confusion. Most people don't realize that the back of the car is the one sliding. All they see is that they're turning left (fishtailing right) and they think they are supposed to turn left as well.
That's the main reason why I clicked on this video; I never really knew what "turn into the slide" meant. We should change it to "turn in the same direction the tail end is moving."
Or "turn to the direction the tail end is NOT supposed to be moving" in the case of a "understeer" slide. But the direction to turn the wheel to should be instinctively correct, anyway.
Arjuna Ravikumar easy,turn in,if u go right,turn "in" to right,left,turn "in" to left. IN WHAT MEANS???
the phrase "turn into the skid" itself is the cause for the confusion.
Exactly! I have always been confused by 'Turn into the slide', but this has explained it perfectly......watching this video the day I have bought my first RWD car......
Thank you so much for this. We’ve moved to the mountains of Colorado, and I’ll admit I’m a little nervous about driving in the snow. I’ve always hear that you “steer into the direction of the skid,” which make absolutely NO SENSE to me. Your video was extremely helpful…I’m a visual learner, and this explained it very well. Thank you so much!
Thank you Sir. This video was so helpful for a home grown Floridian now in icy conditions in CO.
KZhead recommends this to me every winter. I like that.
My aunt in England slid ( safely ) on a snowy road, but was too scared after that to drive. My uncle insisted she take a ' skid control ' safe driving course. She did, and it helped her get over her fear of driving after that.
That is a good, supportive man. Props to your Uncle, and to your Aunt for following through!
With the upcoming freeze forecast on the horizon I thought it best to checkout some tips on KZhead and this was an invaluable video!! So much so I’m going to make a playlist with it to save it for a later refresh. Much appreciation to you from Texas 🤘🏽
Slow is key and keeping space around your car. I am always amazed at how many people want to drive at high speed when there's ice. I live in Vegas and used to live in Pahrump where people commute to Vegas daily. They would drive up a steep short incline to climb over a mountain and out of the Nye Valley and I watched people get in accidents and die every year not thinking about that quick shift in elevation created ice at the top of the hill coming out of the valley. Thanks for the helpful video sir.
Them TX drivers need to watch this.
I am right now hahahaha
Me watching in the car before getting ready to leave 🤣 #texas
@@CrisTina-jv2po oh boy same here
I am 🤣
Most city folk aren't Texans...they are transplants from other states like California
Best description of over- and under-steer I've seen, and best advice on correcting a slide. Superimposing the steering wheel on the video makes "steering into the slide" so much easier to understand. Well done!
Hey Dan! This is super informative. Love the examples, too. Great video. You have a gift for making these fun.
Although I don't live in a place that snows, this video is great and helpful. Thanks for sharing the technique.
First guy was straight up drifting
Nice slip angle
Deja vu
Thanks for this. I just got into a wreck when sliding and over correcting. I'm still trying to get my driving confidence back and this is really helpful information
same, I recommend going to a wide open space when it is either raining or snowing and just practice sliding and correcting
Happens to a lot of people. Just months after getting my license, I was doing 20 mph down a steep hill and lost traction. It was a super tiny road so nothing I could do would correct a slide without landing in a ditch and twisting around trees. Luckily all I did was spin twice and slide in a ditch after the trees.
Me too in March 2021, but I was lucky to buy a new car before the cars got more expensive.
Every year like a certain Christmas video, this gets recommended to me. I love it.
Thank you!! Wish I’d known this b4 I slid (overcorrected) twice up here in Maine. Thank you for explaining and showing examples!
RIP to all who lost their lives today in Fort-Worth TX, & to all of their loved ones - Condolences.
People need to stop driving like they got a deathwish, they get on the freeway & think that they're in the Indy 500. I made it home, but I lost count of how many car crashes I passed on the freeway tonight. I grew up in the ice & snow, drove in it for 12 years, at times tonight I was going 20 mph. This is so damn sad. Condolences to all of the loved ones, & RIP to all who lost their live
@@1jediwitch We never ever get ice in Texas don't blame the drivers
@@kylerbest3208 what? We always get more ice than snow in certain parts in Texas. So when you say we never get ice in Texas is a lie
I've driven through northern Texas quite a few times and it would either be late at night or early morning and yes, texas is prone to ice still. Especially when you get around them cattle farms haha
@@kylerbest3208 well starting this year y’all get ice and next year as well
As a lifelong winter driver of Northern Minnesota and Alaska, I will say this video is a good one to use for training. I've had close calls but *knock on wood* have never been in an accident during the winter months. The key to a slide is never use the brakes. Downshifting one gear is what worked for me as I drive stick shifts.
it's sad that manual transmissions are getting harder to find these days and soon they will all be gone. The biggest reason I drive a manual is because of the extra control you have with them in the snow.
Yeah , you say sense . Even me never got stranded in snow, nor never hit the road curbside because of downshifting gear to L2 , L3 , sometimes to L1 and it works perfectly for me .
The key thing for me to control a slide during winter is to quickly turn on "My life be like" by Gritz and scream obscenities in Japanese.
In most automatics you can engine brake by turning overdrive off but its really only effective above 15-20 mph
Unfortunately CVTs are one speed. And they are putting CVTs in the majority of cars nowadays. Many don't even have a 2nd. gear setting, and most don't have lo. It's like driving my lawnmower. Just push the pedal and go! Going down a steep hill? Tap the brake to slow down.
What a super presentation - made crystal clear some things I have never completely understood - thank you so much 😊
I needed a good refresher on correcting slides. I live in a state that gets a lot of snow/ice. I cannot emphasize how important driving slower on slick roads is along with not panicking. On highways stay in the slower lane even. A few other things: I've found, along with going slower and not braking during a slide, that letting yourself slide ends up stopping the slide from getting worse. Give people in front of you more space or don't even be behind someone at all. If you constantly have snow, having good winter tires is a life saver!!
Driving a mid engine or rear engine car will also help teach you how to not overcorrect as these cars tend to oversteer in normal conditions
Not only do I not hit my brakes when sliding, I always make sure to take my foot off the gas. I allow the weight of the car to slow me as I steer into the slide. Another little tip if having trouble with an icy road, look for packed snow to drive through; your tires will gain more traction. Great video, +1
Thanks.. I was looking for a comment like this... Soon as rear starts sliding, feet off the brake and accelerator and just use the steering until cars under control before using the accelerator again, right?
@@gurinderpalsingh319 Eh, I definitely don't do this. FWD car and I try to give the front wheels a tiny bit of gas along with the countersteering to match the groundspeed below them. Helps engage traction and pull the front around instead of just being skates.
@@gurinderpalsingh319 Actually, you want to blip the throttle if possible, so that the weight of the car shifts to the rear. Coming off the gas has the same effect as braking, which is to shift the weight to the front, decreasing the amount of grip that the rear tyres have.
A little gas is actually good that way you will pull your car in the correct direction
@@wam-wildlifeandmore1141 With a fwd car yes. RWD ur just making it worse... unless you wan't to initiate oversteer... for whatever reason that would be ehem. (Drifting)
"Under 45 you will avoid a slide in the first place" I've spun out going 5 mph. With bad enough ice/traction it can happen at any speed, but it's far more dangerous at high speeds. Thanks for sharing though. It can be scary and the opposite of instinct to hit the gas and not brake when losing control of your car
If you watched the entire of video you would of heard him saying in certain bad conditions you can't go 1mph without skidding.
Black ice is not the same as normal icy/slippery roads. The advice still stands that you should go well under the speed limit. 30 Mph in a 60 zone for example. If the roads are so bad that you spin out at 5 mph, then you'll at least have only crashed going 5 mph.
This video helped me greatly with my two block bike ride to work in Autumn
This is very helpful. My driver’s ed instructor only verbally explained this, I couldn’t envision it and they over complicated it. I wish they would’ve shown this video.
Practice, practice, practice. Find a large icy parking lot. I was lucky enough to have an unused airfield. P.S. Be careful with SUVs which can flip quite easily.
Too late...I flipped...didn't saw the PS
@Martin Smith That's how I did it. My father taught me how to avoid and correct a skid then I practiced in a big empty parking lot until I did the right things instinctively.
I learned on my days on the dirt track
I just want to say thank you for keeping to the facts and showing useful examples in this video. I just moved up to Boston from Atlanta for a job, and when I got here, one of the first things I asked my coworkers was how to drive on icy roads. I work with a bunch of jokesters who thought it would be funny to tell me super incorrect and dangerous information, like "slam on your brakes as hard as you can" and "jerk your wheel in the opposite direction as soon as you start sliding" and if they hadn't seen that I was taken them seriously and mentally taking down notes, I would have followed their advice and probably gotten in a wreck.
LOL welcome to MA! Sarcasm is our native language here
I wouldn't call those people 'Jokesters'...giving a dangerous advice for laughs is just not right.
@@theskyizblue2day431 Hah, I know! They're lovely guys and I don't hold it against them other than being a little miffed in the moment. But now I've gotten used to it and can decode when people are being sarcastic a lot better now (usually...)
@@aligned4good Yeah, I definitely gave them a good talking to about "Hey, when I ask for advice about how to be safe in certain conditions, I really mean it. I know it's common knowledge to guys, but I've never really dealt with it before." They seemed to understand, and we didn't have many more things like that, thankfully. They're good guys, it's just that, to them, I was asking an obvious question like "how do I turn my car on?" Or something like that.
Driving on ice is very similar to driving on muddy roads. This is where I learned and helped me in WV and PA winters.
Great video. At least once a year I end up having to correct a slide. it's infinitely easier to do when you're going slow enough and paying attention.
Swedish tips: 1. drive you’re Volvo in 90 mph on a icy road 2. Dump the clutch 3. Hold the drift 4. Put in a snus
r/madlads
Same in Finland but with BMWs also instead of snus usually its cigarette or beer :D
If you have a snus in your lip and drive a volvo (RWD) you instantly gain a buff to your stats that resist crashing and or loss of controll on your vehicle. Additionally you gain the title of Northern Touge King, effects may dissapear after both snow and ice is no longer noticable on roads.
*some kind of eurobeat playing in background*
Explain number 4
Great video. I have FULL ON anxiety in snowy/icy conditions and slid out once. Now winters are pure hell for me.
Buy proper snow tires. Get out in a parking lot and play around. Stop being scared. Sliding is just part of driving on slick stuff and isn't difficult to deal with at all. You just have to practice it.
Think of it as tokyo drift without ruining your tires
these guys are right, you need to practice because you just experienced some sort of mini "trauma". reenacting and gaining confidence will make you not feel so anymore. good luck
practice sliding, and recovering from slides in an empty parking lot at 5 mph. then you will be able to do it when it matters most
Me too
Came here just to check and make sure I steer the correct way when sliding (I do) but stayed for all the great information! Thanks! I just got a new car so when it starts to get cold I will definitely be taking it out to a lot to practice though 😸
Thank you so much for explaining in brief and with live examples. I found this video so helpful. I could avoid my accident if I had watch this video prior to it. I pressed the brake when my car was hydroplaned and that was my mistake.
I’m sad because of the fortworth pile up today
Pile-ups are the worst there is no escape your best driving skills at best will give you a softer landing maybe. If you get a panic attack you are not gonna make it. I once hit a snow white out and had no visibility for about 15 seconds I had to follow the tire tracks by feel in the snow and my worst nightmare was that I was rolling into a pile up you just have to roll through them and hope its clear.
The first snow day off from school after I got my drivers license was spent in an empty wide open parking lot at wolf trap farm park, learning how to pump brakes, use the e brake, regain control and straighten out from a fishtail. Then me and my friends did donuts and wide spins at faster and faster speeds to see how many times we could get our cars to spin completely around before running out of parking lot. After that, I always had a good "feel" for maintaining control of my car on wet, icy or snow covered roads. Often when your car starts to lose traction or fishtail the best course of action is to take your foot off the gas but do not brake, and even letting go of the wheel for a second to let physics take over will straighten things out. Most people over correct or hit their brakes, which causes the tires to lose all contact grip with the road, and total loss of control. Be gentle.
When i was young, my older brother used to take me out to a parking lot in snow and we'd do donuts and slides on purpose. Not only was it fun and some of my best memories laughing my butt off but it took the fear out of winter driving because i learned to automatically correct and make it instinct. If everyone had a brother like mine, we'd all be safer on the roads. I trust my driving but i dont trust the inexperience of others around me who cause the collisions
@@DebRoo11 Bad weather training should be mandatory in most countries to get the license. Unfortunately it's not.
Initially taking the hands of the wheel and letting the car do its thing is key, as long as you're off the gas and brake. For work I drive a mail truck, rear wheel drive, no weight, and I live in Colorado. I always swing the back end around in the road when turning around, letting the vehicle adjust itself at the end. (No cars or people around, of course)
I moved to Donner Summit at 21 years old and spent 3 years practicing inducing slides and then recovering from them over and over in the empty ski resort parking lot after work. Until it became automatically reflexive, and it has served me well in my subsequent 30 year trucking career. At this point, I’ve been known to intentionally slide my semi-truck around. Sometimes you need momentum to get around an icy turn and over a hill, and the only way to have enough momentum is to power slide it through.