Don't Overlook Postpartum DOE Care This Kidding Season! Dairy Goat Care Guide
A lot of people focus on the babies so much after birth that they forget that mama needs care too! In this video I walk through my postpartum care routine for my dairy goats and go over what to look out for that may indicate a problem, as well as listing some important meds and supplements you may want to have on hand.
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I just want to say that I have been raising goats for over 15 years and I have learnt something new on your videos every time. You truly have a gift for sharing information and I appreciate your honesty with the good and the bad. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! This comment means a lot! ♡ thanks for being here!
Coconut oil to clean the back end, I melted it, and gave my girls a good massage on the milk stand, it was warm and they loved it, but more importantly removed all the dry blood without pulling hair and left a extra clean udder to start milking. ☺️ Oh and very moisturized 😂 Great tips Heather ❤ thanks for sharing
That's a great idea!!!
Great idea about coconut oil. I just used some today on my 2nd doe that kidded.
@@mysticalcat713 glad to know you tried it and loved it too, I watched a milk parlor tour and the lady shared that she used coconuts oil (spray kind) and I thought it was wasteful( because I’m cheap and I don’t like spray anything) but then I was like, we could melt some!!!😂😂 Best thing ever! Thank you for sharing your experience with us and good luck with the new mom🤗
Girl, I have to tell you.... you're probably the best channel to follow for me! You have taught me so much in just the few short months that I've been watching you. I have 2 does and just recently bought a little buckling and yesterday another doe. I'm excited to breed them this fall and begin raising a herd! Thank you for sharing your life and experience
Awe what a wonderful comment, thank you so much!! Congrats on your herd! That's very exciting!!
Thank you for providing valuable information especially for those of us who are fairly new at this. 🙂
Glad it was helpful! That's the whole point. ♥
Well done!
Thanks!♡♡
Awe.. Great video
Thank you Lisa!♡
Thank you for this valuable information!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!♡
Sometimes our new mommas enjoy a banana as a sweet treat after kidding. Gives them a little potassium boost as well. Other than that it is hard to add to everything you covered!
That's such a great idea! Momma deserves a treat!
Great info! 👍🏻 our does should be kidding in April 🤓 Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
So exciting!!!
What a goofy dog! I'm excited to get my goat kid fix in soon. They are too cute!
They really are!♡
Thank you! This is great information for us new goat owners!
You bet!!♡♡
Thank you for another really great video, I've learned so much from you already, and love the way you love your family too.
Thanks so much for watching!♡
Wonderful content as always…thank you 🤍
Thank you Tammy! ♡
Good information! I bet she feels so much better after a little pampering! Mama and babies look great!! Thanks for sharing and stay safe!!
She's doing great and loves her babies so much!♡
Great video, thanks! Oh, I got my hoodie yesterday and love it!
YAY I'm so glad!!!
I don't have goats or anything but a spoiled dog lol. But I love your channel anyways. Thanks for another great video. God bless ❤️ from Indiana
Thank you so much!♡♡
Excellent suggestions! My does seem to feel so much better after being cleaned up! Also that little extra time slows me down enough to do a more in depth examination of my girls & their babies! Thanks Heather! God bless!
Thanks Merry Anne! How are your girls?
@@SageandStoneHomestead they're looking good. I had an opportunity to get a gorgeous doeling from the farm my Lamancha buckling came from. She is 1/2 Alpine, 1/2 Guernsey. Her mom is milking 15.5# daily. The family wanted to sell her since she wasn't purebred & they are trying to breed up to PB Guernsey. I'm interested in the production! And it doesn't hurt that she is absolutely beautiful!! 😉
WOW that's amazing!!! Congrats!♡
So along with the recipe books.... 😂. Girl you need to come up with a goat 101 pdf that you can sell and just keep it simple. One product that others pay for over and over and over. They can print and put in a binder. Your knowledge is awesome!
So far I've been referring people over to Delci, because a lot of the info I have comes from her (a life of heritage). One of the issues I have with something like this is that goat info is really regional and breed specific, as well as intentions specific. I've tried to do what other goat owners do by default and what works for them in their area doesn't work for me here at all! From nutrition to fencing and worming... it depends!!♡♡
@@SageandStoneHomestead that's very interesting and good to know!
That's why I love Delci's reference information, she has compiled a lot of info from a lot of resources and regions and it's all really great to have! I'll be making another goat video soon though. There's already a ton I have learned from doing my own fecals.
@@SageandStoneHomestead can't wait! ❤️
Thank you for sharing this information. I was wondering about postpartum care myself and had asked about it on a couple of other channels. Everyone seems to focus on pre-breeding prep and how to care for the babies, which are both important as well. I am new to breeding ND goats, and I watched soooo many birthing videos. I learned a lot, but the first time is always a bit scary. I would like to share my 1st time experience here. My 1st freshener had one beautiful doeling. She presented just head first. I did assist a little to help get past the shoulders. She was 5.43 lbs and is mostly white with the Caramel color pattern. My 2nd doe, the heard queen (which I think this was her 2nd kidding) had triplets. I just missed the 1st one being born, but I think he presented normal from the way he was lying on the ground. The 2nd one presented normal, and the 3rd one presented breech (hind legs first), so I assisded enough to get the head out quickly. 1st one is a buckling; brown buckskin with moonspots. 2nd is a doeling; black with minimal white. 3rd doeling; buckskin with extensive white and blue eyes. I think the triplets are all polled from what I can tell so far. It was a great experience, and everyone is doing well.
Wow those are great experiences! I would have assisted minimally in the same ways you did with those presentations for the same reasons!! Over 5lbs is big!!! You and the mama's have done great!💕
Hey i have a question. I have my goats on good pasture but I’m still throwing a hay bale to them because they yell for it every morning lol is it okay to keep them on pasture with a little sweet feed at night? And pull back on hay? we been rotating pastures to let the grass grow good. Still new to goats and I don’t want to be over feeding. So far they get hay, pasture, treats like carrots and celery and the preggo girls get a little sweet feed at night too. Thanks so much. I’m trying to preserve this good hay we cut and put up last summer. Thank you ❤
Goats get into a routine with things and they hate change, but if you've got enough grass for them there's no reason to feed hay! We are feeding a quarter of a bale of hay at night now and making them forage the pasture during the day. Keep an eye on everyone but they may just be yelling for the hay because they are used to it.
@@SageandStoneHomestead okay they must be yelling for it because they are just familiar with the morning routine of it. I did notice they aren’t eating as much of the bales as they did before so I’m thinking the grass is sufficient. Ive been rotating them on separated pastures so grass has time to come up like the old owners of the farm here did. The Previous owners had goats here and Said they hardly had to hay them besides winter. But every morning ours bolt to their hay feeder and scream at me. They don’t even eat the whole square bale so I feel like it goes to waste and gets spread everywhere lol I didn’t throw them a bale this morning and they were mad but I’ve noticed them browsing more like they should. They are just spoiled lazy Chonkers as my husband calls them. Thank you again for the advice. 😂
I think if you clean them gently after they have their their kids maybe the next day and that way the flies won't get on them as hard maybe I'm just saying 😮🎉
They do continually leak for a week or 2, so it's a constant upkeep but can be done for sure! Some people do what's called sanitary clips as well to make cleaning easier.
What about right after
We have a few birth playlists if you'd like to see how that works! usually birth is unremarkable and we leave them alone for a day before we remove mom to check on her fully. We do make sure the placenta has passed.
Have you come up with any names yet?
Not for the meat goats but the little Nigerian keeper is Mochi!
@@SageandStoneHomestead such a sweet name
Thank you! ♥
You really need to be careful with that dog around the kids.... He could be dangerous. Lol.
Viscous beeast, he is. 😅😅
I used to worry about that a little too, until I got my Great Pyrenees. Raised with my goats, they seem to fully feel the goats are their family. All of my Pyrenees seem to worry & fret while the does are in labor & insist on helping the does clean off newborn babies. I've never had a problem. I still have to keep a very close eye on my house dog & even my stock dog, but the LGDs have just a totally different personality around their 'charges'.
I think Jennifer was being funny! Because Mars is a good boy!♡
@@merryanneadair4451 I was TOTALLY joking... the kid was nosing up to Mars, so peaceful, so comfortable. Joke for Heather.... Big fan, totally trust her and her sense of her animals!
@@jenniferr2057 thanks for that!! I couldn't imagine how anyone could see DANGER there!! 😳 So sorry for misunderstanding!! My LDGs are so special to me!!
I was wondering if giving b complex is fine with a pregnant doe? We've had some deficiency in a couple of our bucks and i thought it might be wise to give as good measure with it being as cold as it's been but don't want to do anything to harm the does pregnancy.
Yes it's fine!
I really appreciate you answering back!! I just found you today and have really enjoyed the videos I've watched so far 😊 keep up the good work and God bless!!
No problem at all, enjoy your goats! Goats are such a delight.
Yes thanks for answering back without being offended. I tried listening to one goat video and was browbeaten for daring to imply that the person's goats could possibly need vitamins after birth. One twin slept for hours after birth while the other didn't seem to ever go to sleep. I thought perhaps it was a teaching opp if nothing else. I knew anything I had to say in return would be deleted so I just unsubbed and left. Your vids are unparralled in information and kindness thanks.
I always deworm routinely after birth. I have been finding it helpful since I live in the deep south and battle barberpole worms. Periparturient Egg Rise can occur due to the doe's immunity being supressed around the prenatal/birthing time 2 wks prior to 8 wks after giving birth. The parasites lie in wait (via hypobiosis) dormant waiting for this opportunity. They can be from eggs that were eaten by the doe in the fall! Since the eggs aren't being shed through feces at this time, they may not be visible in feces on microscopy. Look up Periparturient rise in goats to see more info.
Worming on a schedule is something we never do or recommend, but it's one way to do things for sure!
@@SageandStoneHomestead I never worm on a schedule except right after birth. It prevents the latent parasites from becoming a problem, which they will start hatching in days!. It is also suggested now that you worm a month prior to kidding to prevent peripartuient rise. People in more desert climates dont have to worry about this as much as people in the south with high parasite potential.
Would you worm with all 3 classes of wormers? It just seems.... flippant, unless you know exactly what you're working with...waiting until egg shed and targeting the specific worm and then comparing fecals in 10 days is what we do and recommend because it doesn't promote resistance. 20% of the goats in a herd are shedding 80% of the worm eggs. Finding those animals and culling them and breeding the others is what's sustainable for goats in the south (we consider ourselves in the south), so that's what we aim to do.
@@SageandStoneHomestead You asked us to comment on we did for postpartum etc. so I did. You didnt cull the doe that got meningeal worm. You were going to go ahead and breed her. Surely she isnt resistant and her babies wont be either. Sometimes we just love the bad ones. I am not judging and I do not promote just giving meds willy nilly. If I have a problem and I know what that prob is, I am going to nip it in the bud as best as appropriate for her condition with meds that are appropriate at that time. Most people do not have enough pasture to truly rotate goats/sheep through in the right timeframe. In a desert where eggs dry out and die, yes. Not in the south where it stays wet. Dry lotting might even be preferable in those cases as far as wirm control. I have beenin the medical field for 20yrs and do have a microscope taken pathophysiology, organicchemistry, parasitology etc, If one has a dormant parasite its not laying eggs in the case of PPER how is one going to see that? Yes one can wait. I know its a problem here so I dont. If antibiotics were used properly in people we would not have MRSA (saw this for yrs in the hospitals)and all these drug resistant bacteria. Antibiotics are being pulled from shelves for use on food chain animals due to improper use. Wormers will be next due to improper use. A dead worm is not reproducing. We have started Bioworma on our farm this year. Results remain to be seen. Worms will always be around I havent seen a totally resistant dairy goat. Probably wont. We just have to do the best to manage them.
I'm still reading your comment but I asked the vet if anything about my doe that got meningeal worm made her more susceptible and she said no. She said sometimes that worm gets lost in the goats body in a bad spot and sometimes it doesn't. Goats are not a host species for that worm so culling her would not have prevented meningeal worms in other goats. At all. Goats are not where that worm breeds and they physically cannot shed menigeal worm eggs. I did ask for additional comments and your suggestions are always welcome. It doesn't mean they will be accepted without question. I am huge about discussion because I feel like people reading a discussion such as this could learn a lot from two people who do things differently and make decisions for themselves based on two viewpoints. My question about weather or not you worm with all three classes of worms at birth was not rhetorical.
My kid passed less than 24 hrs of birth. The kid did not want to latch to the mom.. We noticed that the kid was weak and did not open his eyes like normal. We tried to force feed it, but it did not survive. 😢 What could I have done wrong?
It probably was not you. The first thing that comes to my mind is making sure baby is warm before you try to feed it. Their suckling reflex is not present until they are warm enough. But a weak kid at birth probably had something wrong with it outside of anyone's control. How's mama goat? Hugs.